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Lions
06-03-2009, 12:52 AM
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/989/989269p1.html
Natal is working well so far. Many others have also stated the same impressions.
Pretty damn good start for something that still has another good 1-2 years left in development.
Kurai_Seraphim
06-03-2009, 01:38 AM
Alas, my crazy dream of a cheaper PS3 will remain just that. Guess I'll have to just get it on a Dell sale at this rate.
I'm addicted to E3 coverage. This is my favorite time of the year. I'm watching random coverage videos on Gamespot and jumping to IGN whenever they have anything on.
What else is coming up? We get Square-Enix conference tomorrow right?
I'm so addicted to soaking up ALL the details right now.
Haha you said it! I'm glued to all the gaming sites right now! So many awesome things this year, definitely an E3 to remember.
Lions
06-03-2009, 02:40 AM
New Wii Zelda next year.
evanft
06-03-2009, 02:57 AM
I fucking love The Last Guardian already. I'm gonna BAW when the guardian dies.
I fucking love The Last Guardian already. I'm gonna BAW when the guardian dies.
What if the boy dies?
I'm trying to download the press conferences for viewing on Ipod or PSP, will H.264 MP4 work on both?
Furashu
06-03-2009, 03:27 AM
2010 will be pretty dam crazy for gaming software sales.
SuxoR
06-03-2009, 03:55 AM
Just read there is no online for New Super Mario Bros Wii...sad the system is being pushed to the limit already with all the stuff on the screen...and it looks horrible
Nintendo just keeps dropping the sticky ball
KingBroly
06-03-2009, 03:57 AM
2010 will be pretty dam crazy for gaming software sales.
I think you mean Spring 2010. It feels like there are 50 games coming out in March alone.
H.Cornerstone
06-03-2009, 04:17 AM
I dont know... in my mind Sony won... but maybe thast only because I love Third person action games and Uncharted 2 and God of War III were demoed. MSFT spent way too much time on Natal, and I really could care less. That kind of technology has been around for a while and there is a reason no one has used it. Yeah, it's great technology, but how is it going to be used in games to really keep me interested?
Again, Sony won because their big annoucements and what they showcased were exclusives.
MSFT were "Were getting what our opponents have!"
Lions
06-03-2009, 04:31 AM
Uh, MS had Alan Wake, Halo ODST, Halo: Reach, Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Shadow Complex, Crackdown 2, Left 4 Dead 2, and stole MGS.
They just didn't focus on Natal, they had a strong line up of exclusives and announcement. Natal/Milo was just extra awesomeness.
KingBroly
06-03-2009, 04:35 AM
If a Zelda game comes out for Wii next year, 2010 is far and away the Year of the Wii. I think it's already the Year of the Wii with Galaxy 2, Metroid and No More Heroes 2. Adding Zelda to that...wow. The trifecta in 1 year would be insane.
H.Cornerstone
06-03-2009, 04:45 AM
Uh, MS had Alan Wake, Halo ODST, Halo: Reach, Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Shadow Complex, Crackdown 2, Left 4 Dead 2, and stole MGS.
They just didn't focus on Natal, they had a strong line up of exclusives and announcement. Natal/Milo was just extra awesomeness.
the video skipped on me so I may have missed it, but I don't remember Mass Effect 2 being shown during the MSFT conference I will count Halo: ODST. . But not crackdown 2 or Reach. Showing CGI trailers with no gameplay really doesn't count. Same way I won't give sony credit for Agent (in fact I think thats stupid. HEY We are making this game! No other info!")
And they spent the most time on Natal and Milo, and that was at the end, and typically the end is were the most big announcements are.
And again, yes they are getting Metal Gear Rising, but they still don't have MGS 4, and sony is getting Metal Gear Rising as well.
In the end, I got to see Uncharted 2, MAG, God of War 3 all demoed in real time on stage, plus trailers of Ratchet and Clank, Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo PSP and PS3, Metal Gear Solid PeaceWalker, and the Last gaurdian.
In the end, I still think Sony won, becuase they focused the most on games, not stupid things like Xbox 360 twitter and facebook, or how they are bringing the video store to Europe (why was this announced at E3 and not leipzig? Makes no sense to me).
Lions
06-03-2009, 04:51 AM
Fair enough.
I thought MS blew them all away. I'm so glad to hear everyone who has been testing Milo/Natal have nothing but great things to say about it, and it's still early on so it could be really, really good when it comes out. Here's hoping!
Not just that, but every game I wanted to see showed up, and then some. Got some cool new things like instant netflix streaming with 1080i, Zune store, social networking, last.fm, and more party integration. Games, incredible motion technology, and more options for the experience - score!
Sony did well though, they finally have stuff going for them and they definitely seemed to cater to the sony fans. Not sure I'm with the whole wii motion plus copy controller, but it looks better than the wii's if done right, so it has potential, just as Natal.
Nintendo, well, they sucked, but not nearly as hard as last year.
New Metroid, new zelda, 2 marios, and apparently, Miyamoto announced a new Wii Zelda on the way, so I guess that's pretty good. For nintendo at least.
H.Cornerstone
06-03-2009, 05:02 AM
Fair enough.
I thought MS blew them all away. I'm so glad to hear everyone who has been testing Milo/Natal have nothing but great things to say about it, and it's still early on so it could be really, really good when it comes out. Here's hoping!
Not just that, but every game I wanted to see showed up, and then some. Got some cool new things like instant netflix streaming with 1080i, Zune store, social networking, last.fm, and more party integration. Games, incredible motion technology, and more options for the experience - score!
Sony did well though, they finally have stuff going for them and they definitely seemed to cater to the sony fans. Not sure I'm with the whole wii motion plus copy controller, but it looks better than the wii's if done right, so it has potential, just as Natal.
Nintendo, well, they sucked, but not nearly as hard as last year.
New Metroid, new zelda, 2 marios, and apparently, Miyamoto announced a new Wii Zelda on the way, so I guess that's pretty good. For nintendo at least.
While the Social networking stuff and Last.FM is cool and everything, I just don't think thats the kind of thing you spend time on at an E3 conference.
Again, I agree with Natal. But I am just afraid it's going to be just like the Wii, where it's cool for 15 minutes, but then what does it do to keep your attention afterwards? Most people play games to sit back and relax, not jump around. I will admit it's great technology, but like others I am very skeptical of how it works, and also, the technology has been around for a while, so why hasn't it taken off before or why hasn't anyone used it before? Eye Toy has been doing stuff like this for a while, and there's either two reasons why it never become hugely successful. A. No one wanted it. B. Wasn't marketed correctly (with which Sony, is highly plausible).
I guess only time will tell, but for me, I don't think it's something that I will ever get into.
Again, I liked Sony's better because they focused more on games, and although while thier tech demo was funny, I really wish they wouldn't have come up with the thing. I think this whole motion controller fixation is stupid, and Sony and MSFT won't be able to beat nintendo at it.
And Nintendo loses for one reason, and one reason only. They bring Iwata out to talk for 15 minutes about a fricken heart beat counter? I mean seriously? You spend all this time leading up to it, introduce it, and then don't explain what it does at all? Epic fail.
KingBroly
06-03-2009, 05:03 AM
This is what Nintendo did, and you know what, I feel the exact same way:
http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg
H.Cornerstone
06-03-2009, 05:10 AM
This is what Nintendo did, and you know what, I feel the exact same way:
http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg
Haha, thats awesome. While I didn't get excited, I was more shocked and thought to myself "Wow, that actually looks cool. I wonder how they are going to do it on the Wii?"
zewone
06-03-2009, 05:15 AM
MS blew them all away. Not even close.
Salamando3000
06-03-2009, 05:58 AM
Again, I agree with Natal. But I am just afraid it's going to be just like the Wii, where it's cool for 15 minutes, but then what does it do to keep your attention afterwards? Most people play games to sit back and relax, not jump around. I will admit it's great technology, but like others I am very skeptical of how it works, and also, the technology has been around for a while, so why hasn't it taken off before or why hasn't anyone used it before? Eye Toy has been doing stuff like this for a while, and there's either two reasons why it never become hugely successful. A. No one wanted it. B. Wasn't marketed correctly (with which Sony, is highly plausible).
I guess only time will tell, but for me, I don't think it's something that I will ever get into.
The one thing the Natal has over something like the Eyetoy is the ability to track movement in 3-D, to an extent. It's not hard to create a silhouette of a person standing in front of a webcam, but their technology also uses infrared to figure out the distance of objects. A few measurements and some basic physics, and it's able to figure out movement and speed of movement of objects in front of it. Strictly hardware speaking, that's the only real difference between it and a standard webcam.
Personally, just as I think it's premature to call it stupid, I think it's just as premature to call it a revolution. The 360 is a gaming system, first and foremost. Both Sony and Microsoft are guilty of showing tech that could be fun to play with, before they had anything fun to play with it. A peripheral should not sell the software....the software should sell the peripheral. Before I start singing the gospel of either, I want to see what games I can play with 'em.
KingBroly
06-03-2009, 06:42 AM
The hard thing about Natal is going to be getting it into the hands of good portion of their install base. No matter how much people like it, it still can't touch the Wii. I get the feeling from both Microsoft and Sony it's like 'hey, we have the movement thing, too, pay extra for it'
Thomas96
06-03-2009, 08:59 AM
The hard thing about Natal is going to be getting it into the hands of good portion of their install base. No matter how much people like it, it still can't touch the Wii. I get the feeling from both Microsoft and Sony it's like 'hey, we have the movement thing, too, pay extra for it'
Microsoft and Sony just want a piece of that market that's all, also, a lot of those Wii games that were exclusive primarily because of the Wiimote are no longer exclusive. Take a game like bloom blox, that can come out for MS and Sony because now they have their hands in the motion controller pot. It may never touch the Wii, but hey just having a piece of that casual / motion controlling market is good enough.
KaneRobot
06-03-2009, 10:35 AM
I just like how when shit like Natal and the PS3 motion is shown, it's like a big deal. But when Nintendo introduced the Wiimote, it gets hated on?
The ironing is delicious.
People were fawning all over the then-Revolution's controller when it was introduced, even before really seeing it in action. Don't know what you're talking about.
Not sure I like the already-established trend of putting Natal and PS3 Dildocontroller together like they are the same thing.
Anyway...
Not taking into account who "won" or whatever as far as quality games - I'd say Microsoft definitely had the best actual presentation of the three. They bring out Kojima as a surprise, Tony Hawk shows his new game, Spielberg comes out to shine the Natal helmet a bit, and they have the fucking Beatles there. Plus they never had anyone droning on for too long without showing some gameplay footage or jumping to the next thing on the agenda, they really kept it moving. The Milo stuff at the end was lengthy but it almost had to be since this was something that hadn't really been seen before. And even then they didn't stick with a talking head too long or just show gameplay for an extended period without breaking it up for more explanation.
I think Sony's showing could have been better if they just got their shit together on how to present it. Showing a fairly long montage of games video where the actual game footage only takes up like 1/3rd of the screen and not displaying any name/publisher/release date was ridiculous. Having a couple of long speeches with no gameplay footage (especially the on-the-fly translated one) was incredibly dull. Just abruptly cutting off the God of War gameplay demo due to time constraints was the icing on the cake - that was their main event of the evening and it just randomly stopped.
KingBroly
06-03-2009, 11:06 AM
Microsoft and Sony just want a piece of that market that's all, also, a lot of those Wii games that were exclusive primarily because of the Wiimote are no longer exclusive. Take a game like bloom blox, that can come out for MS and Sony because now they have their hands in the motion controller pot. It may never touch the Wii, but hey just having a piece of that casual / motion controlling market is good enough.
I know they want a piece of it, and their piece is going to be a bunch of crumbs in comparison to the Wii.
Snake2715
06-03-2009, 11:23 AM
Natal will come on the 720 in box not sooner.
It will not make sense to release it before then. They are not going for the 10 year cycle maybe 5-6 with an overlap of their systems.
Watch and see.
Article on IGN says the MGS on PSN!
E3 2009: Metal Gear Solid PSN Hands-on:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/990/990306p1.html
Gentlegamer
06-03-2009, 11:35 AM
Microsoft and Sony just want a piece of that market that's all, also, a lot of those Wii games that were exclusive primarily because of the Wiimote are no longer exclusive. Take a game like bloom blox, that can come out for MS and Sony because now they have their hands in the motion controller pot. It may never touch the Wii, but hey just having a piece of that casual / motion controlling market is good enough.Good point, but the problem is that motion control on Wii is "out of the box" while those for MS and Sony are separate peripherals.
KaneRobot
06-03-2009, 11:46 AM
Natal will come on the 720 in box not sooner.
It will not make sense to release it before then. They are not going for the 10 year cycle maybe 5-6 with an overlap of their systems.
Watch and see.
There's no reason why it couldn't work with the current and future system.
cgarb84
06-03-2009, 11:57 AM
I don't know how everyone else feels but I think all 3 companies had strong showings this year. I have seen a lot of people shitting on Nintendo but I was overall happy with their E3. We are getting a brand new fresh-looking Metroid, Mario galaxy 2, the announcement of the next Wii Zelda, a new Mario Bros. 2D platformer for Wii, ect. My expectations were kind of low to begin with but I was happy overall.
I was also equally excited for both Microsoft and Sony. Both companies have so many great games on the way, makes me happy I own both systems. I don't think any one company won E3, I think we the consumers won this year.
I don't think any one company won E3, I think we the consumers won this year.
I agree.
Nohbdy
06-03-2009, 12:25 PM
I agree.
It was so bad that we had to give it to a completely unrelated party?
Thomas96
06-03-2009, 01:02 PM
Good point, but the problem is that motion control on Wii is "out of the box" while those for MS and Sony are separate peripherals.
That's not a problem, these are "secondary" controllers, whereas the motion controller for the wii is the primary controller. MS and Sony are putting the regular non-casual gamers first; Neither company is trying to "force" anyone to use motion controls. On Nintendo you can't use a regular controller w/o the Wii mote, The GC controllers don't even work with every game.
Thomas96
06-03-2009, 01:05 PM
I know they want a piece of it, and their piece is going to be a bunch of crumbs in comparison to the Wii.
You know they'll take whatever they can get, as longs as those are crumbs falling from Nintendo's table. Sony has been enjoying those Handheld Gaming crumbs for a while as well. (and even MS wants a bit of it as well now).
Furashu
06-03-2009, 01:43 PM
When is the Capcom conference? i tried googling this...
HowStern
06-03-2009, 01:47 PM
I don't know how everyone else feels but I think all 3 companies had strong showings this year. I have seen a lot of people shitting on Nintendo but I was overall happy with their E3. We are getting a brand new fresh-looking Metroid, Mario galaxy 2, the announcement of the next Wii Zelda, a new Mario Bros. 2D platformer for Wii, ect. My expectations were kind of low to begin with but I was happy overall.
I was also equally excited for both Microsoft and Sony. Both companies have so many great games on the way, makes me happy I own both systems. I don't think any one company won E3, I think we the consumers won this year.
Agreed. It's great having 3 consoles out at a time (and owning all 3 :) )
because the competition makes for great games.
CoffeeEdge
06-03-2009, 02:00 PM
When is the Capcom conference? i tried googling this...
I don't think they're having one. They're just doing a booth this year, as far as I can tell (and seeing as how it's already open, I don't think we should be expecting any more surprises from Capcom this week).
Furashu
06-03-2009, 02:19 PM
I don't think they're having one. They're just doing a booth this year, as far as I can tell (and seeing as how it's already open, I don't think we should be expecting any more surprises from Capcom this week).
oh, did they announce the two mystery games on their list?
er the other one, since we already know Tatsunoko is one
edit nvm its the RE PSP game, lame
Capcom Mystery Game #1 (playable in booth!)
Capcom Mystery Game #2 (announced at a press conference!)
It was so bad that we had to give it to a completely unrelated party?
? The consumers(us gamers)won.
tokitoki50
06-03-2009, 03:15 PM
Does anyone have a stream of the Square Enix conference?
refusedchaos
06-03-2009, 03:25 PM
Does anyone have a stream of the Square Enix conference?
http://e3.g4tv.com/e32009/pressconference/squareenix/20/
EDIT: scratch that, it was posted on G4 that SE wont allow cameras in the conference room
tokitoki50
06-03-2009, 03:29 PM
Bah, okay. Well thanks. I guess I'll read a live blog.
EDIT: Update on FF14.. "FFXIV will be coming to the PS3 & PC. They are currently considering other hardware (including Microsoft hardware!)" - From G4. Well there goes that exclusive I guess. But that's the only way the MMO could really work I guess.
Bah, okay. Well thanks. I guess I'll read a live blog.
EDIT: Update on FF14.. "FFXIV will be coming to the PS3 & PC. They are currently considering other hardware (including Microsoft hardware!)"
I was waiting for an announcement like this.
Gentlegamer
06-03-2009, 05:08 PM
That's not a problem, these are "secondary" controllers, whereas the motion controller for the wii is the primary controller. MS and Sony are putting the regular non-casual gamers first; Neither company is trying to "force" anyone to use motion controls. On Nintendo you can't use a regular controller w/o the Wii mote, The GC controllers don't even work with every game.On the Wii, if you make a "casual-waggle" game, everyone with a Wii already has the motion controller necessary to play it.
If MS and Sony release their motion controllers as peripherals, that adds another purchase that has to be made before the "casual-waggle" game can even be played by the target audience. It can only market to a portion of a portion of the console install base (casual players who also have the necessary controller).
Casual-focused motion control games on Wii don't have this problem.
KingBroly
06-03-2009, 05:29 PM
By not packing them in with the console, they're really making the barrier of entry harder for most casual gamers. $250 for a Wii gets you waggle, simple enough. For 360, it'll be $200/$300 for a console, then $XXX for the camera. For Sony, $299/$399 for a console, $XXX for the controller(s?).
Cao Cao
06-03-2009, 07:22 PM
Konami's press conference has started:
http://games.ign.com/articles/990/990878p1.html
http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6210520/konami-e3-2009-press-conference-liveblog-starts-3-pm-pdt
GS said that they will have a video up later if they're allowed to record.
- MGS4 a Greatest Hits title in two weeks.
- Four new titles at this presser.
Bottom to top:
# Posted 3:41 PDT
Lots of hoots and hollers provide Kojima with an answer.
# Posted 3:40 PDT
"Did you like it?"
# Posted 3:40 PDT
Coming for 360 and PS3.
# Posted 3:40 PDT
Castlevania will be reborn in 2010.
# Posted 3:40 PDT
The music swells and the audience erupts as "Castlevania: Lords of Shadow" appears on screen.
# Posted 3:39 PDT
"Can it really bring the dead back?"
# Posted 3:39 PDT
"The Mask is a powerful device..."
# Posted 3:39 PDT
There's a frost giant, cave troll, werewolves, giant spiders...
# Posted 3:39 PDT
his looks like a God of War-style action game with lots of supernatural enemies.
# Posted 3:39 PDT
Natasha McElhone (Showtime's Californication) also appears.
# Posted 3:38 PDT
Robert Carlyle (Trainspotting) and Jason Isaacs (Showtime's Brotherhood) are also credited.
# Posted 3:38 PDT
Patrick Stewart narration that "these are dark times." A figure holding an ornate cross looks at a castle across a foggy landscape.
# Posted 3:38 PDT
MercurySteam logo dflashes.
# Posted 3:38 PDT
Here's the first trailer...
# Posted 3:37 PDT
Now it's time for "one little surprise," as the Mask teaser image comes up on the screen.
(3:41:44 PM): The story is of a hero looking for "revenge and retribution." The game is being developed by a studio called Mercurysteam, but they are working with Kojima Productions.
(3:41:29 PM): There was a heavy God of War-like vibe from that teaser. Lots of hard action. Kojima even notes that this is a new start. Dave Cox, producer, comes on stage and calls this a reimagining. It is not connected to any of the other games.
(3:40:22 PM): Stars a character called Gabriel. The mask can bring the dead back to life. It will heavily factor into the game. And it will come out in 2010.
(3:39:40 PM): Castlevania: Lords of Shadows, folks.
(3:39:25 PM): This trailer is heavy on fantasy-medieval action. Giant monsters like ogres and spiders.
(3:38:36 PM): Jason Isaacs is listed as a cast member.
(3:37:50 PM): Sounds like Patrick Stewart is narrating. Make it so, Kojima!
(3:37:12 PM): The fourth title is about to roll... Kojima is referencing the mask that was on the site. R U READY?
Castlevania will be reborn in 2010.
I wish I could have faith in this but the last good (let alone it being great) console Caslevania was Symphony of the Night but SotN came out almost 12 years ago.
ChibiJosh
06-03-2009, 08:11 PM
Just announce Suikoden VI and be done with it, Konami.
I think it's pretty cool that future PS3 and 360 games will have the option for motion control. Each of them will have games not available on Wii, just like Wii has exclusives, so now we can try motion control on each system's exclusives.
I don't know about anyone else but of all the games I've seen at E3, I think Uncharted 2 is the game that has impressed me the most. Other notable mentions for me would probably have to be God of War 3 and Splinter Cell: Conviction.
Fayt13
06-04-2009, 01:07 AM
No Mega Man Legends 3 :( That's all I was hoping for this year.
cochesecochese
06-04-2009, 01:19 AM
Well it looks like I'm back on the Nintendo train. I just can't quit a bitch. SONY had lots of great stuff but there were no megatons in my case. I will be buying a lot of PS3 games over the next year.
Microsoft just didn't do it for me. Ah well it seems like the 360 base is getting a lot of games and features they will really enjoy it just doesn't appeal to me personally. Kudos to them.
JEKKI
06-04-2009, 01:50 AM
lol!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gj-iSG9oLA&fmt=18
Lions
06-04-2009, 02:23 AM
Lmao!
lokizz
06-04-2009, 02:36 AM
man where are the rape sims? theres just not enough growth in the rape game genre. i guess e3 isnt about big surprises anymore. seems like each company is taking its time going back to its console exclusives and bringing them back. seems like with sony you get 3 to 4 at the most.
Zoglog
06-04-2009, 03:34 AM
got back from japan yesterday to check out E3 today. It's not as good as it was in previous large years (except the forza 3 setup). I didn't do any appointment booking ahead of time due to my previous vacation so the media badge was pretty worthless (Only area I got to walk into was the Bethesda booth). Otherwise many of the new games are only being shown behind closed doors.
Kind of made me wish I spent 3 more days in Japan rather than return to check it out.
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v4793/49/53/533879141/n533879141_1953643_614382.jpg
On a side note, E3 seems a bit more pointless now w/ the ease of access via broadband video for trailers and demos on the consoles. And all the major press outlets really have had the majority of the coverage at the pre-e3 events.
They should copy the TGS model of opening up the show to the public at a cost (after the trade days) and letting the exhibitors price gouge fanboys by selling limited original goods on the showfloor for profit. Otherwise they should just revert back to the small show it was before.
Thomas96
06-04-2009, 10:41 AM
On the Wii, if you make a "casual-waggle" game, everyone with a Wii already has the motion controller necessary to play it.
If MS and Sony release their motion controllers as peripherals, that adds another purchase that has to be made before the "casual-waggle" game can even be played by the target audience. It can only market to a portion of a portion of the console install base (casual players who also have the necessary controller).
Casual-focused motion control games on Wii don't have this problem.
porting a Wii game to the 360 or PS3 probably isn't going to be very costly either. I think that 3rd party developer for the Wii will really need to port their games... so they can make some money. (more money)
Thomas96
06-04-2009, 10:45 AM
lol!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gj-iSG9oLA&fmt=18
damn that was funny as hell
Gentlegamer
06-04-2009, 11:15 AM
lol!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gj-iSG9oLA&fmt=18I watched this live. And this is hilarious!
Also: Cheapy was right, Nintendo finally made something you can put your #### in.
Zoglog
06-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Better today, EA and Sony were both hospitable as opposed to Ubisoft and Microsoft to an extent.
Ended up with a bajillion drake's fortune 2 MP beta codes, they kept on handing them out all over the sony booth and upstairs.
mooshie78
06-05-2009, 02:02 AM
Natal will come on the 720 in box not sooner.
It will not make sense to release it before then. They are not going for the 10 year cycle maybe 5-6 with an overlap of their systems.
Watch and see.
I doubt it. I see this generation going at least 7-8 years. Both Sony and MS have lost a shit ton of money, and need to stretch it out as long as possible to make some of that back.
Nintendo has no incentive to rush a system out since they are making a ton of money, and the Wii owners clearly don't care much about having cutting edge graphics etc. or they wouldn't have bought one in the first place.
I think MS would really be digging a hole if they put out a true console in 5-6 years, lose money on it again (as all hardware that is cutting edge does the first few years) and piss off people with what will likely be a pretty small jump in graphics etc. compared to past generation changes.
Better to make money on the 360 now that they can, and wait until technology advances enough to make a new console a big enough step forward to be worth people shellling out the $400 or whatever.
Lions
06-05-2009, 02:10 AM
MS already confirmed the 360 is going until 2015+.
VipFREAK
06-05-2009, 03:16 AM
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! funnnnn kneee! lool, oh man... 2015. They kill me. lool
Lions
06-05-2009, 03:24 AM
I don't doubt the next wave of consoles will be out before then, but it's nice to see they will support the 360 for awhile like sony does. Guess they're slowly learning.
KingBroly
06-05-2009, 04:00 AM
I doubt they'll be shipping 360's in 2015. Microsoft DOES NOT ship old product once they've released something newer of the same line. Just look at Windows. What a horrible mistake that was for them to stop shipping XP.
mooshie78
06-05-2009, 04:47 PM
Yeah, I don't see them waiting until 2015 (which would be 10 years from launch) to come out with a successor, and I agree with KingBroly that support for the 360 will die off as soon as the new one comes out.
But, like I said, I seem stretching the 360 for 7-8 years. I don't expect a new console before fall 2012 or 2013. No way they're doing 4 years like with the original Xbox to 360 as that would put the new one out this fall. And I don't see it coming out on the 5 year plan next fall either.
MSI Magus
06-05-2009, 04:53 PM
I don't doubt the next wave of consoles will be out before then, but it's nice to see they will support the 360 for awhile like sony does. Guess they're slowly learning.
God damn you really are a fanboy on the Dr mario Kart level huh? seriously MS will support the 360 in the same way Sony is still "supporting" the PS2.
Lions
06-05-2009, 05:27 PM
God damn you really are a fanboy on the Dr mario Kart level huh? seriously MS will support the 360 in the same way Sony is still "supporting" the PS2.
Every time you type, you make yourself look like an even bigger idiot. I'd suggest stop typing, but I know that's asking too much. Again, I'm not a fan boy, so shut up.
I know how MS works, I know they're probably talking out of their ass right now, and as soon as the next Xbox comes out, which will probably be before 2015, they will probably drop all, if not most support for the 360, since that's how they usually run their buisness. But as of right now, I'm glad to see they are at least planning to keep the 360 running, and maybe, if they've learned anything from sony, they might actually keep some development going for thee 360 when the next one comes out.
elwood731
06-05-2009, 06:32 PM
My Best of E3 (http://www.victimofculture.com/2009/06/05/best-of-e3-2009) write-up.
As for MS supporting the 360 post-720 launch, I wouldn't count on it. You will likely see a couple of trailing titles still come out, but MS tends to a one-track company with their products. It's killing them that they can't kill off XP right now because businesses threw a fit.
My Best of E3 (http://www.victimofculture.com/2009/06/05/best-of-e3-2009) write-up.
As for MS supporting the 360 post-720 launch, I wouldn't count on it. You will likely see a couple of trailing titles still come out, but MS tends to a one-track company with their products. It's killing them that they can't kill off XP right now because businesses threw a fit.
Is this best of based on hands on or from the press coverage?
Shrapnellistic
06-05-2009, 08:18 PM
If that new EA MMA uses the FNR4 engine I'd be all over it, I was put off by the visuals in UFC'09: Undisputed where if it was as stunning as FNR4 is, I would of forced myself to grind through the tutorial that put me to sleep (wouldn't mind me if the EA MMA "dumbed it down" to make it more accessible *hint, hint*).
If 360 is MS's #1 console until 2015 that means a lot of us will have to rebuy it again, at least it should be $99-$150 though. I think we will see one of the big 3 release before then and the others follow not long after.
Zoglog
06-07-2009, 03:44 AM
man i'm still bummed I missed DJ Shadow and Cut Chemist @ the activision booth. DJ Shadow was inevitable because I was still out of country, but def should have made cut chemist.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/episode-60-invisible-walls/51228
3 out of 4 Gametrailers Editors say Sony easily had the best press conference of E3 if you base it on actual content, i.e. games. The one person who picked MS said it was slicker, but Sony had the better content.
DarkNessBear
06-07-2009, 10:34 PM
man i'm still bummed I missed DJ Shadow and Cut Chemist @ the activision booth. DJ Shadow was inevitable because I was still out of country, but def should have made cut chemist.
Yea, I'm bummed I missed Scribblenauts... and I should have bought some stuff at Wa Sa Bi game skins. :cry:
Anyone able to find a site that allows you to download MS and Nintendos press conferences?
Gentlegamer
06-08-2009, 11:22 AM
Anyone able to find a site that allows you to download MS and Nintendos press conferences?
You can stream the conferences at GameSpot.
You can stream the conferences at GameSpot.
I know, but I want to download them onto my PSP.