Nintendo E3 2009 - Mario times 2! NSMB2, SMG2, Metroid OM, Golden Sun DS, and more!

[Snake2715]

SMG2 looks great.

Glad to see yoshi back in the mix.

[foltzie]

The Mario games look good. I'm really excited for Metroid but I don't have a Wii and won't buy one until it's dirt cheap. The conference was good. Waaaayy better than last year.

What's up with that RE game? Didn't Steve die in Code Veronica, or is my memory hazy?

Takes place during the CV time.

[Blackout]

Takes place during the CV time.

Oh ok. That explains it. I am super pumped for Metroid though. I think it's the first Wii game I actually care about.

[crunchewy]

You can check out Nintendo's press site. They have other games coming that weren't at the conference. This is how we found out about Mario Party DS and Super Paper Mario.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16127531&postcount=1

That URL is giving me a "server error". Probably just overload. I really wish I could see what's there!

[Strell]

http://press.nintendo.com/E32009/

User: E32009
Pass: nintendo

Unfortunately it looks like much of it is broken. I tried to download a video of "Monado" since I don't know what that is, and it errors when I try to play it.

[crunchewy]

I found what I believe is the press release here:

http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=18595

Yes? Some good stuff listed there, and some stuff I have no idea what it is, but I will have to find out.

[Friend of Sonic]

Nintendo's press site user name is E32009 and "nintendo"

Really?

I remember hijinks with Sega's press site being incredibly easy to view as well.

[crunchewy]

http://press.nintendo.com/E32009/

User: E32009
Pass: nintendo

Unfortunately it looks like much of it is broken. I tried to download a video of "Monado" since I don't know what that is, and it errors when I try to play it.

Awesome! Thanks!

[BlueLobstah]

Looks like they plan on putting up Mario Galaxy 2 & Metroid: Other M artwork up soon (currently returns 404 errors).

[crunchewy]

A lot of the stuff does work on that page, though. For one thing you can get their "partial" list of upcoming DS and Wii titles, disc/cart and download. Lots of games on both lists that I didn't know about.

[tinman_licks]

http://www.wiiland.com/nintendo-wii/news/nintendo-e3-press-conference-highlights-010401.php

Metroid: The Other M (developed by TEAM NINJA) - wow!

Mario Galaxy 2,

New Super Mario Bros. Wii.

Fnally some hard-core titles. Sadly, no Pikmin news.

[Strell]

Got my answer - Monado (http://media.wii.ign.com/media/143/14354769/imgs_1.html) is some sort of RPG.

The screens suggest to me that this is Monolith's new game, since it reminds me of Baiten Kaitos.

[ProfWho]

http://press.nintendo.com/E32009/

User: E32009
Pass: nintendo

Unfortunately it looks like much of it is broken. I tried to download a video of "Monado" since I don't know what that is, and it errors when I try to play it.

Thanks sadly for some reason the Sin & Punishment video keeps crashing out of Quicktime.

[MorPhiend]

Wouldn't it be referring to "Mother Brain" not the RPG? :-?
Oh. That's embarrassing. Of course that makes more sense. I guess I am just tired of people bringing up the "Other M" game.

[crunchewy]

The more I think about the conference, though boosted by the press press kit, the more I think it was fantastic. So much good stuff coming.

[lilboo]

So is NSMB.. the same as the DS one..just..with 4 players? :-s....

[SuperPhillip]

So is NSMB.. the same as the DS one..just..with 4 players? :-s....

Nope.

[lilboo]

Good!

http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/100_2145-495x371.jpg

Koopa Kids?
Day 1.

[Mr. Beef]

Koopa Kids? Nice!

[lilboo]

I am angry that it's Mario, Luigi, and 2 Toads. :roll:

I do like that Yoshi is also in this game. It's also going to be neat to be Toad with a Fire Flower AND using Yoshi :lol:

Peach SHOULD have been in replacement of the second Toad and they should have all had their attributes in Mario Bros 2. [-(

I mean, can't we just go save Daisy or something?!

[Mr. Beef]

No one cares about Daisy, not even Luigi. If you put a blonde next to a brunette, chances are good that the blonde gets the attention.

[lilboo]

:cry:

Well, can't we save Toadsworth or Toadette? Actually..who wants to save Toadette :lol:
Actually, if they refuse to give me Peach [-( I wouldn't mind Mario, Luigi, Toad, Toadette :lol:

[Mr. Beef]

Didn't Peach save Toadsworth in Super Princess Peach?

In either case, I like the idea of bringing back Toadette. She was kinda cute in Thousand-Year Door.

[Kaijufan]

I can't wait for New Super Mario Brothers Wii, Super Mario Galaxy or Metroid. Nintendo had a really great press conference. I'm surprised we didn't hear anything about Retro's new game though.

[Cao Cao]

Tastsunoko vs. Capcom's e3 Trailer:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/49941.html

[lilboo]

No, Peach saved Mario, Luigi and ToadS in SPP.

I'm ALSO mad that one of the Toads isn't the real Toad! The real toad is white cap with red circles. Not the blue and yellow Toads. [-(

[Mr. Beef]

:lol:

[PR Mega X]

Finally got caught up on this thread -- very excited for Metroid especially. But now I feel sort of ashamed that Super Mario Galaxy is still sitting in my backlog. I think I'll push it up to be the next on the list now that a sequel is coming.

My only real disappointment is that it took so long for Mr. Twist to be banned. Other than that, I look forward to (hopefully) finding some video of the conference this weekend.

[Cao Cao]

Since some folks may be having trouble accessing the press website's assets, here are the trailers from that site that were uploaded to Youtube. Right now, I'll put up the Wii videos, but I'll need some time to find the DS videos.

Wii videos
Super Mario Galaxy 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDaORV3qSoY)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5VEq2h_1Mo)
Metroid: Other M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-WSTLyrQsg)
Wii Sports Resort (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyGMhJlqIIc)
Wii Fit Plus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acsvab9Xr68)
Sin and Punishment 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ-0j0ouXcA)
Endless Ocean 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unpcrfk5aRY)
Monado: Beginning of the World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f33K6OxQv4)

WiiWare videos

You, Me, and the Cubes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzi0c9qkVWU)
Icarian: Kindred Spirits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxlLXkrhC10)
Cave Story (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmKsyVaZweQ)

DS/DSi videos
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/50281.html)
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whOZkZzhkn8)
Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT61o-jZeuU)
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCUhjYcVirE)
Fossil Fighters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2pcYUx0EKI)
The Legendary Starfy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKKK-MxB2fM)
Style Savvy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SXIBKbDmaY)
Golden Sun DS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1JjXWYJ14w)

[KingBroly]

I think Retro's working on the next Zelda title. After the Press event, G4 had Reggie on and basically gave the indication that Retro had the chance to do Other M, but wanted to do something else and are. What do we see today? Not Zelda, but a franchise formerly in Retro's hands. Somebody swapped places.

[Lost_In_Shadows]

I'm not much of a Wii gamer,but after watching E3. I enjoyed Nintendo the most because they didn't talk on, and on like the others did, and they had the most exclusives I'm interested in which I never thought they would. I think Mario Brothers,Mario Galaxy 2, and that Metroid game will be must haves for me anyway. Also want the Resident Evil they mentioned, and Dead Space.

[Cao Cao]

I remember that IGN mentioned that rumor in one of their podcasts. We know that Retro is working on a secret project (Supposedly, it was planned for GDC, but cancelled at the last minute), so I'd imagine that Retro would be working on one of three things:
A) That "Space Pirate side-story" thing.
B) Kid Icarus (After Factor 5 went kaput, it's tough to imagine anyone else working on it)
C) The aforementioned Zelda title.

[spoo]

Since some folks may be having trouble accessing the press website's assets, here are the trailers from that site that were uploaded to Youtube. Right now, I'll put up the Wii videos, but I'll need some time to find the DS videos.

Wii videos

New Super Mario Bros. Wii (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5VEq2h_1Mo)


Now seeing this video and lots of single player action I'm very, very excited for this. Maybe it was having four mediocre players during he PC turned me off. It is now looking like it will be as fun as NSMB: DS

On top of that SNOWBALLS!!

[lilboo]

I wonder if you can do single player with any character? :-k

[Doomed]

Endless Ocean 2 (Doomed will be ecstatic)
:rofl: I am. Looks like I am going to need to update my Endless Ocean themed Backloggery (link in sig) and change my avatar.

[SuperPhillip]

With the increased quality of third party games and now the increased amount of first party core games, I can't see the Wii has no games argument being taken seriously ever except by the horde of sad console warriors on various message boards such as this.

Though Microsoft still wins because of Perfect Dark on XBLA. :bouncy:

[gunm]

I have to admit, the trailers on youtube make all the games look a little more interesting than how it first came out in the presser.

It still surreal to see Metroid Gaiden, as much as that appeals to me, though.

[Strell]

Watching the video of NSMBWii makes me want it a lot more than the presser gave indication.

Penguin suit, bitches. Penguin suit.

[cochesecochese]

I'll be picking up a DSi this summer for sure but a Wii is going to have to wait until next year. DQX is the main draw for me but it looks like there will be enough titles for me to hold onto my Wii this time around.

Pretty good conference by Nintendo this year, infinitely better than last year's. I give it a 4/5.

[Rocko]

Super excited for the two Mario games, as well as Mario & Luigi RPG 3 and Golden Sun DS.

[FriskyTanuki]

I wonder if you can do single player with any character? :-k
NSMB? Yeah, they said that 1-4 players can play it.

[lilboo]

So I could start a 1 player game just Toad?

[crunchewy]

My list is starting to get ridiculous. Plus there's backlog I've really got to work on, such as the first two Mario & Luigi games - I've got them but haven't played them yet!

[Survivor Charlie]

I'm looking everywhere to see when Miyamoto's round table is going. Is it going to be on G4? Streamed anywhere? What the hell?

[spoo]

So I could start a 1 player game just Toad?

I hope so, I also hope that everyone has their own attributes (like SMB2) and you can only get certain hidden exits with certain characters.

[bigdaddy]

Watching the video of NSMBWii makes me want it a lot more than the presser gave indication.

Penguin suit, bitches. Penguin suit.

I agree, if they showed that clip during their talking I would have been much much more pleased. That clip makes the game look awesome.

[lilboo]

Yeah but this game is Peachless. [-( So everyone else is generic w/o her. [-(

[crunchewy]

The demo didn't show nearly enough, but I still thought it looked great. It wasn't *that* bad. Or perhaps I just had faith in the concept, which made me not think the demo so bad. :)

Whatever, I can't wait for the game. I'm more excited about it then SMG2, though also looking forward to that, of course. I've just always prefered 2D platformers.

[theflicker]

You, Me, and the Cubes . . . and the PHALLUS.

I wish they didn't make it so easy. Looks like a pretty good game though.

[botticus]

I'm looking everywhere to see when Miyamoto's round table is going. Is it going to be on G4? Streamed anywhere? What the hell?
IGN is liveblogging it in 10 minutes.

Reactions to the conference/releases:
-NSMB looks great, but the likely lack of online means it's probably a pass unless my wife miraculously expresses interest.
-SMG2 is a surprise, but really not something I was looking forward to. Not to say it won't be good, but it isn't really needed right now.
-Metroid looks refreshingly new, looking forward to more info on how it will play.
-Hopefully Golden Sun DS is more entertaining for me than the GBA games.
-Monado might make up for the lack of Soma Bringer localization (but yay the less exciting Glory of Heracles).

[jkanownik]

Played NSMB Wii for a little bit. I think all of the characters play the same because it auto assigned all of the characters. I kept dying because of the random people I was playing with so I was immediately turned off. Once someone swallowed me with their Yoshi and jumped in a hole killing us both. I was instantly reminded why my Wii hasn't been turned on in over a year. Another time I was repeatedly jumped on making it impossible for me to avoid a Goomba.

[Doomed]

IGN Liveblog (http://wii.ign.com/articles/989/989996p1.html)

[SuperPhillip]

Played NSMB Wii for a little bit. I think all of the characters play the same because it auto assigned all of the characters. I kept dying because of the random people I was playing with so I was immediately turned off. Once someone swallowed me with their Yoshi and jumped in a hole killing us both. I was instantly reminded why my Wii hasn't been turned on in over a year. Another time I was repeatedly jumped on making it impossible for me to avoid a Goomba.

Because the people you always play with want to have fun?
Because you find ways to convince yourself the Wii sucks like so many other people instead of giving the system a fair chance?

This post instantly reminded me why the anti-Wii crowd are without a doubt the most pathetic group in gaming today. Doesn't matter what's on the Wii. They find a way to shit on it and then call OTHER people fanboys. Congrats.

[bigdaddy]

Played NSMB Wii for a little bit. I think all of the characters play the same because it auto assigned all of the characters. I kept dying because of the random people I was playing with so I was immediately turned off. Once someone swallowed me with their Yoshi and jumped in a hole killing us both. I was instantly reminded why my Wii hasn't been turned on in over a year. Another time I was repeatedly jumped on making it impossible for me to avoid a Goomba.

Well I hope your friends aren't asses, problem solved.

That Yoshi thing I used to do it in Smash Brothers if someone pissed me off. :)

[SuperPhillip]

Well I hope your friends aren't asses, problem solved.

That Yoshi thing I used to do it in Smash Brothers if someone pissed me off. :)

Bah! You were so much kinder than I! ;)

[Cao Cao]

IGN Liveblog (http://wii.ign.com/articles/989/989996p1.html)

Kotaku has another liveblog that auto-updates:
http://kotaku.com/5276497/liveblogging-shigeru-miyamotos-developer-round-table

I switched to it when the IGN liveblog writer's connection dropped for a few minutes.

[Cao Cao]

From IGN's liveblog:
"7:03 p.m.: Shows new illustration for the next Zelda for Wii. Nothing to show yet, but it shows an adult link. More grown up than ever before.
7:04 p.m.: "We'd like to make it compatible with Wii MotionPlus. It's quite possible it will be playable only with Wii MotionPlus."
7:05 p.m.: "Think of Zelda while you're trying some of the archery and sword play in Wii Sports Resort," Miyamoto say.
7:05 p.m.: "There are people who think of Zelda more as an RPG with simpler controls, so trying to figure out how to make everybody happy is something that's going to concern me," says Miyamoto.

Kotaku (From the bottom-up):
8:04 It depends on how well motion plus does
8:04 It shows link and a female in blue in a robe. It's a painting. He wants to annonce it next year. And I should be motion plus compatible. Maybe only wii motion plus
8:03 He did bring the main illustration foe next zelda title
8:02 I wanted to annonce a zelda game for wii

[lilboo]

Annonce? Did LinkinPrime get a job at Kotaku?

[Cao Cao]

Crecente said that he's typing the liveblog on his iPhone, hence the typos.

[Mr. Beef]

No online play for NSMBW, according to the blog. :(

[Dr Mario Kart]

Press materials, including artwork and videos for download:
http://press.nintendo.com/E32009/
login: golin
pass: harris

[Nohbdy]

I fail to see how NSMBW pushes the Wii tech to the limits to disallow it

[Dr Mario Kart]

They should be more honest, "we think online is a waste of time and money"

[jkanownik]

Because the people you always play with want to have fun?
Because you find ways to convince yourself the Wii sucks like so many other people instead of giving the system a fair chance?

This post instantly reminded me why the anti-Wii crowd are without a doubt the most pathetic group in gaming today. Doesn't matter what's on the Wii. They find a way to shit on it and then call OTHER people fanboys. Congrats.

I post my personal opinion and you attack me. I'm not the one with issues.

Why are you so defensive? I bought a Wii on launch day even though I was travelling on vacation. I enjoyed Raving Rabbids, Wii Sports, Excite Truck, Zelda and SMG. But after that I was kind of over it. I have Wii Sports Resort preordered as well as Toy Story Mania, so it's not like I've completely written off the Wii. There just haven't been any games that I'm interested in.

I was excited to see NSMB Wii and actually took the time to play the game. I didn't like it. The reasons I didn't like it are very similar to reasons I don't like other Wii titles (i.e. crap like blue shells and crappy waggle controls). It's not like the Wii is the only system with titles like that. I hated You're in the Movies for the similar reasons.

If I want a casual fun games most Wii games don't do it for me. Pokemon Snap on virtual console works. Rock Band/Guitar Hero work. The copy of Hakuna Matata I imported because Nintendo won't release a Pokemon Snap 2 also works. Practically any 360 FPS with the difficulty cranked down to easy works as well.

[crunchewy]

The reasons I didn't like it are very similar to reasons I don't like other Wii titles (i.e. crap like blue shells and crappy waggle controls). It's not like the Wii is the only system with titles like that. I hated You're in the Movies for the similar reasons

"You're in the Movies" has something similar to "crap like blue shells and crappy waggle controls"? I had no idea! ;^)

It just seems like a silly complaint to me - you were playing with strangers (for what, 10 minutes? 20 minutes?) who apparently wanted to play it like it was Smash Bros. When playing the game with friends/family it will be fun. Lego Star Wars also lets you attack your partner and there are times when that can result in hilarity, but a friend would know when to stop being an ass, though of course first pushing it to its limits. :) In Lego Star Wars there isn't anything to even compete for, where as here there is. Once you have beaten the game you can then go back to favorite levels and compete in them, which is going to increase the longevity of the game. If you really don't like the idea you can just play it single player, ala classic Mario platformer style.

What the multiplayer, when people are playing it to compete, reminds me of is the 2-player mini-game in New Super Mario Bros. (DS) which I think is really fun. In the Wii game you can compete like that in any level in the game. That's awesome. Mind you, I would like it to have levels specifically designed for competitive play - I don't know if it has that, but I presume not since it wasn't mentioned.

[crunchewy]

Span Smasher sounds like it could be fun. Too bad there's no video yet, but I like the concept. It sounds, from the description, like you use the Wii MotionPlus enhanced remote to hit "Smasher" (a ball) toward objects. Here's the description:

Introducing a New Spherical Smash-Hit Hero
Span Smasher combines the hands-on fun of tennis with the nonstop action and instant
gratification of pinball. Smasher (name not final) is a floating ball with a lot of personality.
When his island paradise is threatened, Smasher springs into action. He bounces around
and smashes into barriers, aided by the motions of players and their Wii Remote™
controllers. Players use just one hand to swat him toward the objects they want him to
smash, and he does the rest.

FEATURES:
• Players who finish each section with three coins will receive a pearl. With three pearls, players can move on
to the boss stage of that particular level.
• During the game, Smasher and his friend take on different abilities and characteristics that change the way
they look and act to keep the challenge fresh. For instance, they might become huge, split into multiple balls
or turn to metal.
• The scenery of the game scrolls to present Smasher with new obstacles and rewards. Players must angle
their swings to help Smasher bust through barriers or collect keys to unlock the next segment of the game.
• Smasher can hang back at the edge of the screen to power up for an even bigger burst of energy. But if he
remains motionless too long, he might get eaten by the multi-headed dragon that pursues him.
• Span Smasher is used with the new Wii MotionPlus™ accessory, which adds even greater precision to
players’ swings.
Introducing a New Spherical Smash-Hit Hero
Span Smasher combines the hands-on fun of tennis with the nonstop action and instant
gratification of pinball. Smasher (name not final) is a floating ball with a lot of personality.
When his island paradise is threatened, Smasher springs into action. He bounces around
and smashes into barriers, aided by the motions of players and their Wii Remote™
controllers. Players use just one hand to swat him toward the objects they want him to
smash, and he does the rest.

The press kit does include screenshots. Looks like it could be fun.

[EXStrike]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/989/989598p1.html

You bat a smiling, sentient tangerine through walls of blocks. Seriously.

Span Smasher (http://wii.ign.com/objects/142/14286542.html) is one of the Big N's surprise showing here at E3 2009, a game we didn't really know anything about in advance of the show -- but, after having spend a while with it here on the show floor, we can tell you pretty much everything. It's all summed up in that intro sentence up there -- Span Smasher is a game where you play as a bouncing piece of fruit, and you use the Wii Remote to swipe, slap and knock him around the screen and blast through barriers built of breakable blocks.

This is a Wii MotionPlus-only game, developed by Artoon (http://games.ign.com/objects/027/027403.html) and set to be published by Nintendo sometime in the to-be-announced future. But however long the wait is, it might be worth it -- this little design is simple, but can get addictive.

One swipe of the Remote gets your character, The Smasher, rolling. He'll hit a barrier, break it, and then bounce back the opposite way -- ricocheting off the wall in a manner similar to arcade classic Arkanoid. You'll then swipe at him again, sending him at another block, to break it. Rinse and repeat.

You can swipe at The Smasher multiple times in a row if you want, course-correcting him in mid-flight to send him soaring around unbreakable obstacles. You don't want to constantly waggle the Wiimote, though, because waiting a few seconds in-between swipes allows him to power-up -- glowing with white, fruity rage. Then your next swipe will be super-powered, able to break through multiple blocks at a time without bounce back.

Also, the stage constantly scrolls. So you've got to move fast.

The E3 demo on display here on the show floor offered up three full levels and a boss battle. The levels were pretty snazzy, including some pinball-like slides that sent the Smasher spinning around the screen, keys you had to grab to unlock doors, multiple paths to progress and collectible items galore. Grabbing fruit pieces activated power-ups, like a Multi Ball and Fire Ball mode that each lasted 15 seconds or so before fading away. There were also special medals to collect along the way, and those determined your overall success in each stage -- grab three, and you passed the level. Grab less than three, and you failed.

The boss was a big, bad blowfish unrelated to Hootie and the band. His attacks were pretty visually impressive, as he puffs himself up with air and then exhaled a wave of flying blocks meant to impede you. You've just got to power through, though, and wail on that whale. Eventually, he deflates and dies. Game over, demo complete.

Overall, Span Smasher was a fun surprise here at the show, and really just a good example of the kinds of MotionPlus projects Nintendo has in mind to launch through the rest of 2009 and into next year. Span Smasher won't be your most anticipated title over the span of time between now and its release, but once you finally get your hands on it yourself you'll have a good amount of fun.

And really, you can't beat a game where the main character is, literally, a fruit.

[lilboo]

I wonder why Nintendo has forgotten all about Star Fox? :-k
....even Kirby. :cry:

[Corvin]

I'm always fine with a new Mario, Metroid & Zelda but they've already had the limelight on the Wii. Where's F-Zero, Waverace, Pikmin, Starfox and the rumored Kid Icarus?

[theflicker]

I wonder why Nintendo has forgotten all about Star Fox? :-k
....even Kirby. :cry:

The funny thing is I could totally see Nintendo taking Span Smasher and rebranding it Kirby Smash 'n Roll or something.

I then foresee a brand new "nintendo whores out its characters" thread.

:-k It's so obvious . . . why isn't this happening?

[vherub]

Press materials, including artwork and videos for download:
http://press.nintendo.com/E32009/
login: golin
pass: harris

thanks for this, the cursed mountain stuff was especially interesting since the trailer is lukewarm, but the art and screenshots are promising.
Also like the that Cave Story, Icarian and Swords&Soldiers are scheduled for summer 09, And Yet it Moves fall 09
too bad super meat boy is q1 2010

[crunchewy]

Ooooh... I was just dreaming... MotionPlus Kirby's Dream Course (not a remake, a new game built around MotionPlus). That would be AWESOME. Pretty please? If they do it they'd better include the original as an unlockable, though.

Totally agree that we need more of the other characters now, and how about someone new? Oh, and Muscle March. We've got to get Muscle March. But we won't. Sigh. Still, I can't complain about the lineup.

[bvharris]

I never thought I'd post in a Wii thread, but NSMBW is the first game that has me seriously wishing I owned a Wii. I sunk a ton of time into the DS one and it really took me back, the prospect of finally being able to play classic 2d Mario platforming with friends is very tempting. That, along with a few other older titles, actually have me considering the little white box of satan for the first time :D

[Nohbdy]

The creator of Star Fox is wary of a new, "proper" game. He even commented how it unsettling it was of his fanbase (furries) to do certain things with the characters.

I'm serious.

[lordopus99]

I'm always fine with a new Mario, Metroid & Zelda but they've already had the limelight on the Wii. Where's F-Zero, Waverace, Pikmin, Starfox and the rumored Kid Icarus?

I agree. Whare is Kid Icarus??

[onikage]

I agree. Whare is Kid Icarus??

How about Donkey Kong Country 4? I'd expect them to continue the series, probably on the DS, but to this point there's been no indication that it'll ever happen.

[bigdaddy]

The creator of Star Fox is wary of a new, "proper" game. He even commented how it unsettling it was of his fanbase (furries) to do certain things with the characters.

I'm serious.


Then he is fucking crazy.

This is what you do to the characters, let them fly a fucking ship, that's it! No damn lame ground levels just ship flying!

[Kaijufan]

I wonder why Nintendo has forgotten all about Star Fox? :-k
....even Kirby. :cry:
Well according to the last few Nintendo financial reports they have a Kirby Wii game in development, but it seems to be taking a very long time for some reason.

[Reality's Fringe]

How about Donkey Kong Country 4? I'd expect them to continue the series, probably on the DS, but to this point there's been no indication that it'll ever happen.

This. None of that "Swing" fuck-ass nonsense. DKC 4, with AMC graphics for good measure.

[theflicker]

Well according to the last few Nintendo financial reports they have a Kirby Wii game in development, but it seems to be taking a very long time for some reason.

Probably just me, but I don't think Kirby Wii would be good. I didn't really care for Kirby 64. Like, it was ok, but not great.

I think it would be great to get a Mega Man 9-esque retro sidescrolling platformer though.

[foltzie]

How about Donkey Kong Country 4? I'd expect them to continue the series, probably on the DS, but to this point there's been no indication that it'll ever happen.

Rare is with Microsoft now and its known that Miyamoto was not a fan of the Rare Donkey Kong games.

[theflicker]

Rare is with Microsoft now and its known that Miyamoto was not a fan of the Rare Donkey Kong games.

I remember reading that and finding it really odd. I always thought of DKC as an homage to SMB. The gameplay is very similar. What does he not like?

[spoo]

I remember reading that and finding it really odd. I always thought of DKC as an homage to SMB. The gameplay is very similar. What does he not like?

I remember when DKC1 first came out and I played the hell out of it for short time and never played the sequels. I recently tried to play DKC1 and got bored quick and a gave DKC2 a shot. I became annoyed after only 4 or 5 stages and I will probally never touch DCK2 again and I doubt I will ever give the third one a chance. The DKC games just haven't aged well unlike the Super Mario games. I can't pinpoint it but the gameplay is lacking something....

[foltzie]

I remember reading that and finding it really odd. I always thought of DKC as an homage to SMB. The gameplay is very similar. What does he not like?

According to Wikipedia (prepare salt shaker), he was pressured to move Yoshi's Island graphics closer to DKC and he felt that DKC was popular only for its graphics and had mediocre gameplay. As a response he changed the graphics of Yoshi's Island to the well known crayon inspired ones.

I'll have to redact my previous statement, as the Paon company has been working on the recent DK games and has been using the DKC inspired graphics and characters and Nintendo themselves made DK-Jungle Beat. So there is a chance of a sidescrolling DKC-like game.

Even further, DK-Jungle Beat was just released in the New Play Control series, yowsa, I was off on this one.

[Doomed]

The creator of Star Fox is wary of a new, "proper" game. He even commented how it unsettling it was of his fanbase (furries) to do certain things with the characters.

I'm serious.
:rofl: Source?

[pete5883]

I've gotta admit, when whats-her-name said that 4 was a very important number for the next Mario game, I was sure they were going to announce Super Mario Bros 4.

[bigdaddy]

So we have one guy who hates Donkey Kong country, another crazy guy might not want to mess up Star Fox (more than they already did? Is that possible?), and where the fuck is Kirby?

[Kaijufan]

The only Donkey Kong sequel I see as a possibility is Donkey Kong Jungle Beat 2, I doubt Nintendo will continue the DKC series. I'm sure most of EAD Tokyo is working on Galaxy 2, though I suppose it's possible they have a smaller team working on another Jungle Beat.

[cochesecochese]

So the vitality sensor didn't really sit well with me for a while. I think it's because the interface is so wonky; you have to clip the damn thing on your finger. It would be far superior if the sensor was built into the remote and it just sensed your heart rate as you played.

It seems as though all these peripherals are experiments from Nintendo and with Wii HD or whatever the next home system is called we're going to see the Wii remote perfected. It will definitely be that NES-SNES or N64-GCN type jump Nintendo is so famous for.

[lilboo]

Ya know, as much as the Wii disappoints me..it really brings WAY too much potential for the next Wii. Of course, that is if they plan on taking the "Wii" approach again.

[theflicker]

So the vitality sensor didn't really sit well with me for a while. I think it's because the interface is so wonky; you have to clip the damn thing on your finger. It would be far superior if the sensor was built into the remote and it just sensed your heart rate as you played.

It seems as though all these peripherals are experiments from Nintendo and with Wii HD or whatever the next home system is called we're going to see the Wii remote perfected. It will definitely be that NES-SNES or N64-GCN type jump Nintendo is so famous for.

I never actually saw the conference video for that. So, only working off the image stills, I'm not anticipating a whole lot for this peripheral. Seems like it should get bundled with Wii Fit Plus or the next iteration of EA Active.

Since it clips onto your finger, it really does get in the way of more traditional controls.

[bigdaddy]

The only Donkey Kong sequel I see as a possibility is Donkey Kong Jungle Beat 2, I doubt Nintendo will continue the DKC series. I'm sure most of EAD Tokyo is working on Galaxy 2, though I suppose it's possible they have a smaller team working on another Jungle Beat.

I'm OK with another Jungle beat if they change the menu into a map instead of just lines of levels.

[cochesecochese]

Since it clips onto your finger, it really does get in the way of more traditional controls.
Exactly. It seems like something that should be built right into the remote. Maybe some kind of sensor built onto the remote's surface.

[crunchewy]

I can't believe you guys are taking about the vitality sensor seriously. It has to be one of the most bizarre announcements Nintendo has made to date. I suppose it wouldn't be Nintendo without one such annoucement. :)

Maybe I'm just missing the point, but I have my doubts. Fortunately there was plenty of good stuff to counter it.

[lilboo]

I can't say I agree with everything they have done (not JUST at E3)..but most of the shit does make sense in the end. (Unless you're obsessed with your 360)

But the vitality sensor makes no sense. I mean even the "coolest" thing it might turn out to do, will probably still be really stupid.

If it's going to check heart rates and all..cool..but pack it into Wii Fit Plus and don't charge any extra. If that's all its for and it's really not going to cost more..then we can't complain (unless you're obsessed with your 360)

[BlueLobstah]

Found a little surprise while browsing on Nintendo's press site:

http://files.simgaming.net/Wii_Zelda_e3.jpg

I guess this was the teaser image displayed during the round table?

[EXStrike]

Wow, I can't believe they put that up there already.

[Strell]

Wtf he's right handed.

[botticus]

Shigeru Miyamoto: Well, the story setting for this Zelda is, of course, in a completely different era and Link is older than he was previously. More approaching adulthood. There is one hint. Maybe from the art work you can see that he's not holding a sword.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/991/991714p1.html

Dun dun dun.

[foltzie]

Wtf he's right handed.

He was that way in the last one due to using the Wiimote.

[Strell]

He was that way in the last one due to using the Wiimote.

Yah, I know, and I said the same thing at that time too.

Unless this cryptic clue about "he has no sword" means he's using the shield as a weapon, in which case he could still be left handed.

....

Maybe he wields the Master Vitality Sensor, which was previously encased in a large stone at a retirement center for aging Hylians.

[crystalklear64]

IGN: Have you thought about making a Wii game that uses two Wii remotes with MotionPlus?

Shigeru Miyamoto: I think if Wii Sports Resort sells really well, that's something we'd definitely like to think about. Like, table manners.


lol'd

and I think I have to add this: it is a lol as in, oh miyamoto you jokester you! and not, lol, wii sucks.

[ananag112]

But the vitality sensor makes no sense. I mean even the "coolest" thing it might turn out to do, will probably still be really stupid.

If it's going to check heart rates and all..cool..but pack it into Wii Fit Plus and don't charge any extra. If that's all its for and it's really not going to cost more..then we can't complain (unless you're obsessed with your 360)

I was thinking the vitality sensor would be shown with some horror game (like maybe a new Fatal Frame or Eternal Darkness). Nintendo patented the sanity meter system used in Eternal Darkness, so perhaps this could be used with that game. Depending on your heart rate, the sanity effects get stranger and stranger, so you have to calm down to keep playing effectively. I don't get though how you can play while your finger is in that sort of device.

[soonersfan60]

All of you imagining a Link with no sword, I don't think you have much to worry about. One of the selling points of the WM+ is that it makes sword wielding more realistic. I can't believe they'd pass up that opportunity to show it off. And I thought I read somewhere that they are even considering making Zelda Wii require the WM+. That seemed to indicate sword play to me.

[Corvin]

I've never understood what the big deal about Link being right-handed is. It's a different Link in every game through generations. You would think at some point in the bloodline you have right and left handed Links.

I was thinking the vitality sensor would be shown with some horror game (like maybe a new Fatal Frame or Eternal Darkness). Nintendo patented the sanity meter system used in Eternal Darkness, so perhaps this could be used with that game. Depending on your heart rate, the sanity effects get stranger and stranger, so you have to calm down to keep playing effectively. I don't get though how you can play while your finger is in that sort of device.

I've been championing something similar over on DVDtalk. I like the way you think. My example was a zombie game where more zombies are thrown at you the higher your heart rate(or slows the action down to let you compose yourself, find health & ammo). Now imagine Left 4 Dead where it tracks everyone's heart rate and the zombies zero in on who has the highest heart rate and the remaining 3 are left to defend that one person. There are many possibilities, unfortunately people can't seem to expand their vision beyond WiiFit type usage.

Nintendo already released this device 10 years ago in Tetris64 and it worked great then. It, however, attached to your earlobe. I guess it was time to trot out more old tech and shove it in a white box to see how many gajillions they sell. :lol:

As for using this one with traditional controls, it could work if you can get the thing to stay on a pinky finger.

[Salamando3000]

I've been championing something similar over on DVDtalk. I like the way you think. My example was a zombie game where more zombies are thrown at you the higher your heart rate(or slows the action down to let you compose yourself, find health & ammo). Now imagine Left 4 Dead where it tracks everyone's heart rate and the zombies zero in on who has the highest heart rate and the remaining 3 are left to defend that one person. There are many possibilities, unfortunately people can't seem to expand their vision beyond WiiFit type usage.

Depending on exactly what the Vitality thing measures, developer's could have some fun with it. In college I volunteered for some research that used a similar system for allowing locked-in people to use computers. I was told to think passionate, high adrenaline thoughts (sex, murder, that type of stuff) to move it one way, and cool, relaxing thoughts to move it another. Wasn't the most precise tool in the world, but I was able to play a much-slowed down version of Pong with it.

If it could measure individual hearbeats, then imagine a target-shooting game where the screen vibrates in tune with your heartbeat. In order to shoot the target accurately, you'd have to slow down your heart and take the shot in between beats, just as real rifle teams need to.

[ananag112]

Also an idea I had would be options in a game like Mass Effect. So when talking to people, your dialogue options depend on what you are feeling. So if you are angry, you may have more options to slap or yell at people or if you are calm, you might forgive people or something.

Of course, Nintendo will likely first use it in a Wii casual game like perhaps Wii Relaxing where the goal is to stay relaxed and calm.

I think the idea of the vitality sensor is good if used properly. I don't like that you need to put a finger in the device for it to sense your body's data however, but I can see why that is done in order to get better reliability and to keep the costs down. In the future however when it becomes cheap, a laser vibrometer or some other means of obtaining this data wirelessly should be used and I think that is when this type of thing will have an impact.

[lilboo]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Wii Relaxing
:cry: It's funny because it's POTENTIALLY true!!

I do not have any good opinion on this sensor. I mean, I'll wait for more details about it..but I just can't imagine this being that useful. At. All.

[stefonzie]

Aww I wanted a Kirby game for the Wii to be announced.

That Metroid game makes me want to replay all the metroid games I have. I am definitely buying Metroid Prime trilogy when it comes out because I only played the first one.

I'm excited.

[Doomed]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Wii Relaxing
They already made that game. It's called Endless Ocean. [-(

[Cao Cao]

Yah, I know, and I said the same thing at that time too.

Unless this cryptic clue about "he has no sword" means he's using the shield as a weapon, in which case he could still be left handed.

Well, it almost looks like the area around that hand of Link's is burning red, almost like its loud roar is telling Link to grasp victory.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that after training in a dojo, maybe after getting into a few brawls, Link learned the ultimate attack from the master, something far superior to any flimsy piece of metal. Those red flames in front of Link and his sword-less hand can only mean that he has learned one thing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzkrk6nnY48

Or it's like, his sword is the sword of his soul or something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJYkmGQCSeQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgaCMhTxkEg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGLk8E5zw-0

[Cao Cao]

Well, I'm sure most of you saw the E3 trailer for Sin and Punishment 2:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5921688&postcount=529

It was playable on the show floor too, so some previews popped up. In the demo level that they played, you fight through hordes of monsters until you reach a mid-boss that is in the trailer. This particular boss looks like a Giant Chicken, who attacks by throwing smaller chickens and lasers all over the place. And just what was the name of this formidable foe? The Cock Keeper.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/04/hands-on-sin-and-punishment-2/
http://wii.ign.com/articles/989/989923p1.html
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3174574&p=44
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressionsArt.cfm?artid=18679

[gunm]

Hm, that Denise Kaigler...not a very good interview.

[lilboo]

http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1244046738

............:drool:

[BlueLobstah]

Level wise, this is already looking better than New Super Mario Bros. DS, but I was hoping they would do away with that atrocious theme. The music is really one of New Super Mario Bros. weak points...

[lilboo]

See, I kind of like it. But that's just me.
Though, it could be because it's an early build..but..the music playing in the castle is kind of weird. :-s

[Cao Cao]

It's probably just music that's playing at the booth, not in the game, because you can't hear any sound effects from that specific kiosk.

[foltzie]

The new music and the beats that caused monsters to move was an impressive addition, that Nintendo gets too few kudos for including.

[Nohbdy]

The new music and the beats that caused monsters to move was an impressive addition, that Nintendo gets too few kudos for including.

That's been there since the DS version.

[foltzie]

That's been there since the DS version.

I was referring to the DS version.

Furthermore, I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of another game using music cues to change or dictate the actions of other characters. Was New Super Mario Bros really the first?

[foltzie]

http://i39.tinypic.com/4qn59w.jpg

:lol:
Totally borrowed from the other thread... I'll return it later.