XBox vs PS2

[Zenithian Legend]

So, I'm assuming that all of the people who post regularly on this board are GC owners, and I am as well. Quite happy with my cube, but I've been thinking lately the barn has room for one more system, mainly one with DVD capabilities. So, keeping in mind I already have a Cube; as a second system which do you suggest: XBox or PS2?

[Mishimaryu]

PS2- more fighters, action, RPGs, comes with DVD player
XBox- built in hard drive, your online action games, online fighters, seperate DVD device needed to play DVDs.

btw I like the PS2 more myself, as you can tell from my collection and I am awaiting for:

FF 12, MGS3: Snaker Eater, Suikoden 4, Guilty Gear Isuka, Tekken 5

[msdmoney]

Depends, how is your computer setup, many xbox games are also available for the computer so factor that in. Also depends what types of games you are into.

[munch]

i would suggest an Xbox. this because i am biased, as well as the fact that i hate the PS2 controller.

[int80h]

Dreamcast

[mtxbass1]

I have both systems, and it really depends on the types of games you play. I have had my ps2 since launch, and just aquired my Xbox more recently. I also have a cube. If there is a game on all three systems that I want, I will usually buy it for the Xbox. Same is true if the game is on either Xbox or PS2...the Xbox usually wins. I used to hate Xbox until I actually owned one.

Both systems have online play if you are interested. Xbox Live is not free, but it is the better of the two online systems.

It's really going to boil down to what type of games you like to play though.

PS2 is the system to own of RPG's are your thing.

[dafoomie]

If you want to play online, Xbox.
If you want RPG's, PS2.

If you want Halo 2, Bioware, or multiplatform games, Xbox.
If you want Nippon Ichi or Atlus games, PS2.

If you have HDTV, Xbox.

I own both. I don't own a cube yet, there isn't a GC exclusive compelling enough for me to buy one. Unless Skies of Arcadia 2 comes out for it.

[maxflight]

same here, I used to hate xbox until I got one, it is really not bad. the third party games are usually better on it.

I still hate sony though. ps2 is just a crappy machine and load times are not bearable sometimes.

if you're an absolute rpg fanatic though, definitely get ps2, endless supply of it. but if it's for anything else, most likely xbox is the better choice.

[elprincipe]

Depends on what games you want of course, but I prefer PS2 myself.

[Dok Diamond]

I myself prefer ps2, theres not enough games on the xbox that appeal to me, but i wouldnt mind having one.

[Wombat]

Having both, I would go with X-Box over the PS2, I like that I don't need memory cards(which can get costly) and the shorter load times on multiplatform games. But if RPG's are your thing you may be happier with a PS2

[Rig]

I'm glad you said the Cube was the #1 system, becuase I was coming in here to tell you this matchup (Xbox Vs. PS2) wasn't very good at all. That being said, I own all three consoles, and I would pick PS2 over Xbox any day. The PS2 has far more games than the Xbox, and if you're looking for a DVD player as well, the PS2 requires no additional purchase.

[johnnyoski]

I'm in the same boat, own a GC, looking to buy one of the other 2 systems by end of year.
I've heard many of the same points brought up by everyone here.
Right now I'm leaning towards a PS2 mainly because of the huge gaming selection and the fact that I still have several PS1 titles.
But I've heard the graphics are much better on the XBox and having a hard drive will eliminate the need to buy any memory cards. But with the exception of a few titles (Halo) there isn't much that appeals to me.

Any good bundle deals coming out for those systems any time soon?

[DenisDFat]

PS2. It actually has games woth buying, unlike the xdude.

there's no reason anyone should own an xdude.

[whiteboy]

I own all three as well and ever since i got my XB i've always taken it's multi-platform games over the rest. i'd definately go with xbox i've only bought 1 PS2 game all year and I dont see myself buying anymore except MGS 3 and GTA SA. But then again i cant stand RPG's so that is probably why not many hyped up games on PS2 appeal to me.

[Stryffe2004]

I am an Xbox/PS2 owner and I agree with everyone else that says it comes down to what types of games you like. Both systems have clear dominance in certain areas:

Xbox: Racing, Sports, First Person Shooters, Western Style Action RPGs
PS2: Japanese Style, RPGs, Platformers, "Quirky" titles

I like the Xbox genre games better so I would go with an Xbox. The hard drive saves money, you don't have to buy mulitap and 99% of mulitplatform titles are better on Xbox. Xbox LIVE is much better than PS2 online as well, if that is a factor. There are enough games that use the custom soundtrack to mention that as well.

[Cornfedwb]

The Xbox is the better console, the PS2 has the better library.. really depends on what you're looking for. The only way I could decide was getting them all.

[Lootr2Core]

I own all three. first came the Ps2 loved it, then game gamecube, loved it, then came xbox, loved it. Honestly I think they are all great systems, I suggest making your choice simply by the best deal you can find. No matter if you pick up an xbox or PS2 you will love it, than in a year or so, (when the new systems come out) pick up whichever one you didn't buy now.

Over the whole lifetime of my ownership I would speculate that I have played each system about the same amount of time.

[daphatty]

I'm amazed that this hasn't turned into a flame war. I came in expecting the worst. Bravo CAGers!

On topic - I'd have to agree with just about everyone. PS2 has a better library, Xbox is the stronger console technology wise as well as for online. Xbox is the only current gen console I don't own so I can't comment on the quality of the games. None of them seem to interest me anyway.

[coldwine]

PS2 has a much better library!

Mind you, I own all 3, and I'm having a fun time playing Fable now...but my PS2 game collection is huge.

[Othergods]

My vote goes to the Xbox, I owned all 3 systems, but sold my GC (I just never played it).

If you do not want to buy $120 in extras to make a complete system you have to go with the xbox.

PS2 you need to buy
Multitap- $30
Broadband Adapter- $60
Memory Card- $30

Xbox you need to buy
DVD kit- $20


If you want to play RPGs buy a SNES!

[daphatty]

My vote goes to the Xbox, I owned all 3 systems, but sold my GC (I just never played it).

If you do not want to buy $120 in extras to make a complete system you have to go with the xbox.

PS2 you need to buy
Multitap- $30
Broadband Adapter- $60
Memory Card- $30

Xbox you need to buy
DVD kit- $20


If you want to play RPGs buy a SNES!

What are you talking about?

1) A multitap is rarely necessary. (Come one, how many times have YOU played with more than 1 other person?)
2) The BBA is NOT $60. Try half of that. If you paid $60, then you got ripped off.
3) Again, the Memcard is $20, NOT $30.

So lets see how this breaks down.

PS2 you need to buy
Memory Card - $20

Xbox you need to buy
DVD kit - $20

Sounds pretty even to me.

[Othergods]

My vote goes to the Xbox, I owned all 3 systems, but sold my GC (I just never played it).

If you do not want to buy $120 in extras to make a complete system you have to go with the xbox.

PS2 you need to buy
Multitap- $30
Broadband Adapter- $60
Memory Card- $30

Xbox you need to buy
DVD kit- $20


If you want to play RPGs buy a SNES!

What are you talking about?

1) A multitap is rarely necessary. (Come one, how many times have YOU played with more than 1 other person?)
2) The BBA is NOT $60. Try half of that. If you paid $60, then you got ripped off.
3) Again, the Memcard is $20, NOT $30.

So lets see how this breaks down.

PS2 you need to buy
Memory Card - $20

Xbox you need to buy
DVD kit - $20

Sounds pretty even to me.

As to playing with more than one person, I guess you do not have friends. Because I use feature this all the time. Or the PS2 does not have any good pultiplayer games.

I know this is a Gamecube thread so how many of you GC's use the 4 ports on your unit? Would 2 have been sufficient with all of the party games and mario cart sytle games? I do not think so. The same goes for the FPS's on the Xbox.

When the BBA came out is was $60 and that was the day I cursed PS2 and never priced it again because my xbox came with it.

You are right your basic $20 lowest memory memory card compares to the built in Hard Drive. What are you gonna save your progress on what 4 games before you have to start deleting stuff?

[maxflight]

My vote goes to the Xbox, I owned all 3 systems, but sold my GC (I just never played it).

If you do not want to buy $120 in extras to make a complete system you have to go with the xbox.

PS2 you need to buy
Multitap- $30
Broadband Adapter- $60
Memory Card- $30

Xbox you need to buy
DVD kit- $20


If you want to play RPGs buy a SNES!

What are you talking about?

1) A multitap is rarely necessary. (Come one, how many times have YOU played with more than 1 other person?)
2) The BBA is NOT $60. Try half of that. If you paid $60, then you got ripped off.
3) Again, the Memcard is $20, NOT $30.

So lets see how this breaks down.

PS2 you need to buy
Memory Card - $20

Xbox you need to buy
DVD kit - $20

Sounds pretty even to me.

you forgot the BBA if he wants to go online.

I think bottom line is just, how much do you love RPGs

[superman1180]

I have all 3 systems as well. (Xbox, PS2, and GameCube)

I have to say I enjoy the Xbox the most out of all three. It usually gets the best version of multi-platform games as well as having the included hard drive and broadband hookup. I have the DVD kit for the Xbox as well, it is great and I got it for only 15 bucks. Plus Xbox Live is the best online service I've ever used. Being able to jsut pop a game in and find your friend on there in seconds is a something I enjoy after every game purchase. I'm currently looking forward to GTA: SA on the Xbox in 2005.

I hardly ever play my PS2 anymore, probably because I'm not much of an RPG gamer now, but I still enjoy Virtua Fighter 4:Evoultion and Superman: The Shadow of Apokolips.

The GameCube has some great games that if I had more expendable income I'd purchase, but I don't (That's why I'm a CAG).

[sota2000]

I will agree that the PS2 has the best selection of games.

Plus there are a ton of great games that you can pick up on the Greatest Hits for $19.99.

Also don't forget that MS may launch X-box 2 next year.
Im sure will find out that info at the Jan CES in Vegas.

[rebenns]

XBox - Pros - More powerful system, which means better graphics, even on multi-platform games, shorter load times, and smoother performance. Not true on every game, but a large portion of them.
- Better online network, with more games supported.
- Several really good exclusives.
- Built in hard drive - no needing memory cards, and ability to download new content.
Cons - Fewer installed base than PS2, which means most games are designed for PS2, and do not take advantage of the XBox graphics.
- Fee for online play. It's not very expensive, but the PS2 is free, once you buy the adapter.
- Controller isn't quite as good as the PS2 for many games.
- PS2 has many key exclusives that will never appear on XBox.
- Very few RPG's, especially compared to PS2.
- Microsoft is not as good at promoting their console as Sony.
- Smaller library of titles.

PS2 - Pros - Largest installed base, meaning that nearly all games will make it onto the system.
- Many key exclusives and first releases.
- Lots of RPG's.
- Best controller on the market, for many games.
- Sony is a ruthless promoter.
- plays nearly all PS1 games.
- Largest library.
- Best light gun on the market. Good gun games.
Cons - Least powerful of the current consoles, with generally the weakest graphics and performance on multiplatform games.
- Hard drive sold seperately.
- Must buy memory cards to save games.
- Inferior online setup.

[Mishimaryu]

what rebenns said, I kinda also like light gun games myselfs for PS2. The xbox only has the madcaz blaster gun and its light gun/gun games are HOuse of the dead and Silent Scope. I can't wait for Crisis Zone.

[regisphilbi0]

XBOX. Better action/ shooting games, which I love (I'm not a huge fan of RPGS.) Graphics are better. supports Dolby Digital in Game, and XBOX Live.

[FrankySox]

PS2. It actually has games woth buying, unlike the xdude.

there's no reason anyone should own an xdude.

No games worth buying on Xbox, that may be a bit biased, just because PS2 has more games it doesn't mean they are better, and perhaps you mean X-dud? I'm not really sure.
But to the OP I would say it depends on the games. If you have to have RPGs get PS2, otherwise it's Xbox (Xdude) all the way!

[AdamInPlaidum]

How many of you guys have noticed the amounts of reviews for multiplatform games telling you to "go with the GC/Xbox version" due to the PS2's grainy graphics/slowdown? I suppose this is inevitable this far into this generation since the PS2 came out so much earlier, but really, this would be my main concern when it came to which system to buy. That being said, perhaps the PSTwo is a little hardier of a system?

[vanlandw]

x-box all the way. PS2 is better for gamers on a budget but for the hardcore the x-box can do a lot more.

i own only 15 PS2 games and 40XB games

[Tromack]

I like my Xbox more, but I play my PS2 more. It's library is a definite advantage. Personally, I like my GameCube the most but play it the least.
However, my Xbox and Gamecube got the most playtime last year because my friends and I were obsessed with Soul Calibur II (which I had for GC), F-Zero, and 8 player Halo.
If you can get 8 people and the requisite technology together, I would say 8 player (or more) halo makes the Xbox worthwhile. I know there are better FPS's on the PC, but actually having a full team in a room together with another full team nearby makes it so worthwhile.

[CaseyRyback]

PS2 hands down. In less than 4 months I have gotten close to 50 games, never had more than 15 for the Xbox.

the PS2 library is SOOOO much better than the Xbox, and really fills the holes in the GCN's library. Also games are really cheap. CAPCOM, KONAMI, and NAMCO are all some of my favorite publishers and they all make their best games for the PS2. SEGA also makes a lot of top notch games for the PS2 (Quantity may be more on Xbox and GCN, but VF4:Evolution is the top game from SEGA this generation).

[Goodtone]

The reason to own a XBOX: Halo, Fable, NO memory card needed (that is a HUGE plus) The built in hard drive is like owning 30 PS2 memory cards. Better graphics, much faster load times, Riddick, Ninja Gaiden, Rallisport 2, Project Gotham racing 2 (along with Burnout 3) is the best racing game made so far on any system, Crimson Skies, HALO 2 is coming!!

Reason to own a PS2: More games available exclusive to the system (but the graphics are better on XBOX), Some people like the PS2 controller better, Suikoden III, Devil May Cry, Onimusha 2 and 3, More RPG's available, It's the number one system in Japan so Japanese game developers focus heavily on making games for it.

I have every system made since Colecovision and will buy every one that ever comes out if I can. I personally like the XBOX better because it is just the best quality of graphics and the most powerful system available right now. In my opinion, the PS2 is old technology compared to XBOX. Play Riddick and you will see what I mean...The PS2 is just not up to par with the capabilities of the XBOX.....Granted the PS2 has some great games though and what's a powerful system without games? The Xbox has some incredible games as well and they completely rock as far as being up to date with technology's abilities now.

I would say if you are into RPG's and Japanese style games, get a PS2. If you like the best game graphics, first person shooters or any other games besides RPG's, definitely get a XBOX.
You can't go wrong with either system, but if you decide to go PS2, think about waiting for the new smaller PS2 that is coming out in November and there should be a price drop when it comes out....Just my opinion from my experience with both systems.....hope it helps

[killswitch64]

My vote goes to the Xbox, I owned all 3 systems, but sold my GC (I just never played it).

If you do not want to buy $120 in extras to make a complete system you have to go with the xbox.

PS2 you need to buy
Multitap- $30
Broadband Adapter- $60
Memory Card- $30

Xbox you need to buy
DVD kit- $20


If you want to play RPGs buy a SNES!

Yes you may have to buy the Network Adapter for the PS2 but you have to pay for Xbox live also. Pretty equal in my eyes.

[Hixton1]

PS2 has much better exclusives and a more extensive library of games. Xbox is technically superior and usually has the better multiplatform games. As for Gamecube, I haven't touched mine in over a year...nuff said.(I know you didn't ask for a GC opinion, just thought I'd do you the favor of volunteering it). :wink:

[ksuwild25]

Xbox all the way. I love this system. I was thinking of stop gaming, but xbox provided titles that kept my interest.

[AdamInPlaidum]

PS2 has much better exclusives and a more extensive library of games. Xbox is technically superior and usually has the better multiplatform games. As for Gamecube, I haven't touched mine in over a year...nuff said.(I know you didn't ask for a GC opinion, just thought I'd do you the favor of volunteering it). :wink:

You wanna give it to me? I bring mine to my friends houses enough that I'd love to have another.

[alongx]

The Xbox is the better console, the PS2 has the better library.. really depends on what you're looking for. The only way I could decide was getting them all.

I assume you mean Xbox is better as far as the hardware goes? I agree that getting all of them is really the only way to go, though.

All I can attest to is that I have had my Xbox for 2 years and my PS2 for almost 3 and I have more than double the number of games for my PS2 than I have for my Xbox. Most of the Xbox games I own are either Sega games or multiplatform games, such as PoP and BG&E, just because I prefer the Xbox controller-S to the PS2 one.

[alongx]

If you like the best game graphics, first person shooters or any other games besides RPG's, definitely get a XBOX.

Yes, Xbox is the best for FPS, but any other genre besides RPGs? I think that's stretching it. I'd say PS2 has a superior assortment of action, adventure, horror, and fighting games. And I'm not saying that it has the best of all of these - I'd say Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox is the best Action game I've played in a while - but it has more variety and more good, purchase-worthy options.

[Sartori]

As to playing with more than one person, I guess you do not have friends. Because I use feature this all the time. Or the PS2 does not have any good pultiplayer games.

I don't even know what this says.

I know this is a Gamecube thread so how many of you GC's use the 4 ports on your unit? Would 2 have been sufficient with all of the party games and mario cart sytle games? I do not think so. The same goes for the FPS's on the Xbox.

There's a difference between Gamecube and Ps2 (library). The amount of times I (or many of my friends) ever desired to play more than 2 player (or hell, have a game that supports it..) is almost zilch. Gamecube? It's a regular occurance. Nintendo has a focus on multiplayer that you can see since the advent of the 64 - Sony doesn't.

When the BBA came out is was $60 and that was the day I cursed PS2 and never priced it again because my xbox came with it.

I can't deny this while being 100% certain, but I'm fairly positive the BBA was 40 on launch.

You are right your basic $20 lowest memory memory card compares to the built in Hard Drive. What are you gonna save your progress on what 4 games before you have to start deleting stuff?

The "lowest memory card" - there's only one type of memory card for Ps2 - the 8MB card. Your comment regarding saving four games before having to delete stuff is ridiculous. Unless you keep your data for personal reasons, you won't ever have a storage problem while consistently keeping many titles on the card at once. Your bias is very clear and it shows through with your incompetent assault.

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On topic - I'd go with the Ps2, no sweat. If you have Ps2 and Gamecube, most (not all) of your bases are covered. It's always the best idea to own them all, but if I had to choose to drop one, it'd be X.

[1SwtDeception]

It really depends on what you want in a system.. the games, controller, amount of money, quality like do you prefer more of a variety of games like the ps2 library or just some really few good ones like the library for xbox. I somewhat looked at ps2 as quanitity and xbox as quality. I mean ps2 got some great games for rpgs and xbox has the shooter types.

I've got a ps2 and gc and I was thinking of getting an xbox sort of (my brother thought of it) and seeing like doa: ultimate and halo 2 is on xbox is making me me like "why xboxxxx you suckk" (from the fact that I don't own an xbox). So it really what you look for in a system.

I'd say ps2 cause it has more games and I just like RPGs. Also I prefer the ps2 controller compare to xbox. But then xbox has Ninja Gaiden and Halo and pretty soon DOA and hell it has the Raiden cover for Deception.

[whoknows]

Go with PS2. It has better games and you cant play Devil May Cry on the Xbox. Personally its one of my favorite games of all time if not. Also I got my xbox thinking halo would make it worth it and it wasn't. Halo is way too repetetive for me. I havent touched my xbox for about 2 months and I have had it for only 3 1/2 months. I cant stand the controller and the only game I found worth my time on it was Ninja Gaiden. Also if you buy a new ps2 it comes with a network adapter and the PSTWO the new smaller version has the network adapter built in. Also its free to play on PS2 and no matter what people tell you it doesnt always disconnect and I found it to be more than sufficient for online games. Sure it has less than xbox does but how many of xbox's online games are really worth playing online?

[Ledhed]

you cant play Devil May Cry on the Xbox.

Yeah, but you can play Ninja Gaiden. They are nigh-identical, and I don't mean that in a bad way.

[Goodtone]

If you like the best game graphics, first person shooters or any other games besides RPG's, definitely get a XBOX.

Yes, Xbox is the best for FPS, but any other genre besides RPGs? I think that's stretching it. I'd say PS2 has a superior assortment of action, adventure, horror, and fighting games. And I'm not saying that it has the best of all of these - I'd say Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox is the best Action game I've played in a while - but it has more variety and more good, purchase-worthy options.

Best First Person Shooters: Riddick and Halo (XBOX)
Best Racing games: Project Gotham 2 (XBOX)
Rallisport Challenge 2 (XBOX)
Burnout 3 (Plays best on XBOX)
Best action game: Ninja Gaiden (XBOX)
Best Flying game: Crimson Skies (XBOX)
Great Shooter: Panzer Dragoon Orta (XBOX)
Great RPG's: Star Wars KOTOR, Fable (XBOX)

I will let someone else do the sports games since I hardly ever play those

[Sartori]

you cant play Devil May Cry on the Xbox.

Yeah, but you can play Ninja Gaiden. They are nigh-identical, and I don't mean that in a bad way.

I'd much rather play Devil May Cry. A more stylish and substantial experience, imo.

[Sartori]

If you like the best game graphics, first person shooters or any other games besides RPG's, definitely get a XBOX.

Yes, Xbox is the best for FPS, but any other genre besides RPGs? I think that's stretching it. I'd say PS2 has a superior assortment of action, adventure, horror, and fighting games. And I'm not saying that it has the best of all of these - I'd say Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox is the best Action game I've played in a while - but it has more variety and more good, purchase-worthy options.

Best First Person Shooters: Riddick and Halo (XBOX)
Best Racing games: Project Gotham 2 (XBOX)
Rallisport Challenge 2 (XBOX)
Burnout 3 (Plays best on XBOX)
Best action game: Ninja Gaiden (XBOX)
Best Flying game: Crimson Skies (XBOX)
Great Shooter: Panzer Dragoon Orta (XBOX)
Great RPG's: Star Wars KOTOR, Fable (XBOX)

I will let someone else do the sports games since I hardly ever play those

You totally missed the point. He even said Ninja Gaiden is probably the best action game around - but the Ps2 has more VARIETY and more purchase-worthy options around.

[Goodtone]

I have and love both systems.....Read my first posting on page 2 of this thread

I just think that if you had to choose one, and money for memory cards is an issue, the XBOX wins out easily. You will save at least $50 alone on memory cards.

Analogy:
My opinion is that why would you buy a 2 year old car with older technology, when you could have the newest model up to date one with the more technilogically advanced engine?

[Sartori]

I have and love both systems.....Read my first posting on page 2 of this thread

I just think that if you had to choose one, and money for memory cards is an issue, the XBOX wins out easily. You will save at least $50 alone on memory cards.

Analogy:
My opinion is that why would you buy a 2 year old car with older technology, when you could have the newest model up to date one with the more technilogically advanced engine?

How many memory cards do you need? Do you keep every save?

If not, you're greatly exaggerating.

[Eclipse]

ps2..bigger assortment and variety(more 3rd party), some ground breaking games, awesome for fighting games and rpg's...and Burnout

xbox has some great titles..I especially liked Breakdown and the online Capcom vs Snk 2 experience

[willardhaven]

I know everyone said this already...

But, if you want a console with a lot more RPG, Adventure and Niche games... go with PS2

If you're a PC gamer with a weak rig, or someone who prefers Shooters and Racers, go with Xbox.

I have a PS2 and GC, I see no reason to own an Xbox, although I'd love to play Ninja Gaiden and Conker 2.

[whoknows]

you cant play Devil May Cry on the Xbox.

Yeah, but you can play Ninja Gaiden. They are nigh-identical, and I don't mean that in a bad way.

I'd much rather play Devil May Cry. A more stylish and substantial experience, imo.

Me too. I played Ninja Gaiden and quickly missed DMC and started playing that. Also look at the games coming out for PS2 and XBOX in the coming months. The only game for xbox I can think of is Halo 2 which I really dont care for much. Look at the PS2 and you got MGS3, Killzone, DMC3, R&C 3 (Actually I'm not sure when its coming out but it will still be really good), Resident Evil Outbreak 2, and some others that dont come to mind.

[Zenithian Legend]

I'm amazed that this hasn't turned into a flame war. I came in expecting the worst. Bravo CAGers!

On topic - I'd have to agree with just about everyone. PS2 has a better library, Xbox is the stronger console technology wise as well as for online. Xbox is the only current gen console I don't own so I can't comment on the quality of the games. None of them seem to interest me anyway.

I tried to make this topic on the Gamefaqs Gamecube board a few months ago. Oddly enough, I got a lot of the same that I'm getting here, and amazingly no flame war, which of course is almost unheard of on gamefaqs. Anyway, some dumbass mod decided to delete the topic, because as we know the gamefaqs mods get off on that kind of crap. The other drawback is GFs has no poll option.

[Zenithian Legend]

Oh since people keep asking what kind of games I play... well, I'm kind of surprised no one checked my game list in my sig.

Anywho, I own every nintendo console (nes, snes, 64 and GC) and a ps1. The ps1 I had strictly to play rpgs, in fact I think all but maybe 3 of my ps1 games are squaresoft games, and of the remaining 3, 2 are rpgs, and the last 1 is warzone that I picked up for $1.

As far as multi-player goes, I'm not really concerned. I use the GC for that, personally I think the GC has the best variety of multi-player games with TimeSplitters2, Mario Party, Mario Kart, Super Monkey Ball 2, Mario Golf and so forth. So, multi-player is not a huge factor in this decision.

My bestfriend back in my hometown by Detroit has had all 3 systems for a few years now, and I've got the chance to play some of the better games. In fact when I was home for awhile in April we went through all of FFX in a week. Over xmas break almost 2 years ago we played through Halo several times... so, I've gotten pretty acquainted to both systems.

I must admit I did prefer to play Halo with 2 players, however, I share my apt with 3 other people, so that wouldn't be a problem.

Both of course have dvd players which is a must, and the memory card issues don't really concern me much, although I must admit the xbox's system is very convenient. Plus the xbox's ability to play your own music is a nice touch too.

Basically, it's come down to RPGS vs Halo2 & Rare, or broken down ever further: FFXII & DW8 vs Halo2 & Rare. Unfortunately rare has yet to announce anything of significance since being bought by Microsoft. Ah, decisions, decisions...

[alongx]

You totally missed the point. He even said Ninja Gaiden is probably the best action game around - but the Ps2 has more VARIETY and more purchase-worthy options around.

I'm glad someone got my point :P

Xbox has good games, but PS2 has a larger volume of high quality games than the Xbox does. Both console have their fare share of shitty titles, but I think that the PS2 has more AAA titles than the Xbox does.

[jputahraptor]

PS2: If there is a game you want badly for xbox chances are it also came out for pc. PS2 has the bigger library and more of the exclusives. You also don't have to pay more to play DVD's.

I'd personally sacrifice a little graphic wise for the large library. I personally don't see a difference between games that came out for both the ps2 and xbox, i played max payne on both among other games and saw no difference.

The Xbox is also bigger then my whole body, one day future gamers will shake their heads at this "marvel".

[alongx]

Basically, it's come down to RPGS vs Halo2 & Rare, or broken down ever further: FFXII & DW8 vs Halo2 & Rare. Unfortunately rare has yet to announce anything of significance since being bought by Microsoft. Ah, decisions, decisions...

I'm surprised that Rare is part of this equation at all. Grabbed by the Ghoulies was pretty poor, and, IMHO, Conker doesn't look like it'll be worth it (It looks great, but I didn't find the multiplayer in Conker's BFD to be fun at all, so I wouldn't want to buy a game centered on what I felt was the worst part of the original). I'm also surprised that you didn't mention Xenosaga Ep. 2 as a reason for PS2 - Xenosaga Ep. 1 was probably the most enjoyable RPG I played on the PS2 so far.

[maxflight]

I'm amazed that this hasn't turned into a flame war. I came in expecting the worst. Bravo CAGers!

On topic - I'd have to agree with just about everyone. PS2 has a better library, Xbox is the stronger console technology wise as well as for online. Xbox is the only current gen console I don't own so I can't comment on the quality of the games. None of them seem to interest me anyway.

I tried to make this topic on the Gamefaqs Gamecube board a few months ago. Oddly enough, I got a lot of the same that I'm getting here, and amazingly no flame war, which of course is almost unheard of on gamefaqs. Anyway, some dumbass mod decided to delete the topic, because as we know the gamefaqs mods get off on that kind of crap. The other drawback is GFs has no poll option.

so how do you feel about it so far? what are you leaning towards and why?

[Sartori]

Basically, it's come down to RPGS vs Halo2 & Rare, or broken down ever further: FFXII & DW8 vs Halo2 & Rare. Unfortunately rare has yet to announce anything of significance since being bought by Microsoft. Ah, decisions, decisions...

I'm surprised that Rare is part of this equation at all. Grabbed by the Ghoulies was pretty poor, and, IMHO, Conker doesn't look like it'll be worth it (It looks great, but I didn't find the multiplayer in Conker's BFD to be fun at all, so I wouldn't want to buy a game centered on what I felt was the worst part of the original). I'm also surprised that you didn't mention Xenosaga Ep. 2 as a reason for PS2 - Xenosaga Ep. 1 was probably the most enjoyable RPG I played on the PS2 so far.

I don't understand why Rare is part of the equation, either. Rare is dead.

[vanlandw]

IT'S ALL ABOUT PERSONAL PREFERENCE

[NatakuARN]

I cringe at the site of these topics; they always degrade into how the XBOX is a poor mans PC. Many of the best games on the XBOX are in fact not also on the PC or any other system for that matter. The truth is the PC gets many games that the consoles also get, GTA for example, but no one ever brings that up.


Just take a look at the exclusives for each system, and determine which ones appeal to you more. Don’t cloud your mind with nonsense, just look at the games. I would suggest however if watching DVD’s is important to you I would suggest a stand alone player, even the sub $80 players are better than either the XBOX or PS2.

[CaseyRyback]

Zenthian, I have always bought Nintendo, and I play my PS2 more than my GCN now (mainly because I have played most of the good titles already for the GCN). Sony has the best action platforming games, the best fighting games, and a ton of unique titles that are worth checking out due to the fact that they are just fun.

[fireball343]

Xbox is a ton better IMO. Hard drive saves a ton of money. I have about 25 memory cards worth of space used for saves, at least! I also have some cds on there.

Whatever games you like should decide what system you get. Look at the games you want and decide from there.
I personally am not missing much of anything that the xbox doesn't have and the ps2 does. I look at all the ps2 games and compare them to gamecube and xbox ones, there are twice as much in the stores but as far as games that are worth your time, there even. Keep in mind the ps2 is a weaker system so programing doesn't require as much as an xbox, so many little games or bad ones come out for that and the reason of more people own it.

Again, decide for yourself. if you like rpgs go ps2, anything else xbox

[CaseyRyback]

Xbox is a ton better IMO. Hard drive saves a ton of money. I have about 25 memory cards worth of space used for saves, at least! I also have some cds on there.

Whatever games you like should decide what system you get. Look at the games you want and decide from there.
I personally am not missing much of anything that the xbox doesn't have and the ps2 does. I look at all the ps2 games and compare them to gamecube and xbox ones, there are twice as much in the stores but as far as games that are worth your time, there even. Keep in mind the ps2 is a weaker system so programing doesn't require as much as an xbox, so many little games or bad ones come out for that and the reason of more people own it.

Again, decide for yourself. if you like rpgs go ps2, anything else xbox

saying that the PS2 is easier to program for negates any opinion you make. The PS2 is by far the hardest system to develop, where as the Xbox and GCN are much much easier. The only reason that development times have gotten better is that they are more familar after developing for it for 4 years.


and if you think the amount of good games is even across all systems, you are mistaken. While the Xbox and GCN have plenty of good games they do not come close to the amount of good games for the PS2

[janglypangly]

I think all 3 systems are good....they are just like food...you get what you like,some people may like some things more than others,and there is no "best" system, just stick with what you like, enjoy the games, and who cares if some dude you'll never see in your life disagrees with you.

[Magician]

I'm a little biased (a PS2 and GC owner), but if given the choice, I'd definitely choose the PS2 over the Xbox. The controller fits much better in my hands, and I just love the wide selection of RPGs (my favorite genre).

Your decision, though.

[Kaijufan]

I own all three, and personally I spend much more time playing Xbox games then games on the other system. Really the only PS2 games I play anymore are the Japanese RPGs, and I buy all of my third party games on Xbox because its a more powerful system and I dont need to waist money on memory cards.

[cyberlian]

I own a ps2 because of the gta series..
(who can make themselves wait for these to come out on xbox, watching everyone with ps2's play them upon release, gamer's hell)
I have an xbox for the graphics (mainly sports)...
gta's on ps2, madden and nba (or nfl) street on xbox...
(as well as the likes of sw:ktor and halo)

[Rig]

Xbox all the way. I love this system. I was thinking of stop gaming, but xbox provided titles that kept my interest.

How can that be? I play my Cube all the time, with the PS2 a close second. Last comes the Xbox, but this whole thing is purely based on opinion.

[jputahraptor]

About the memory cards, i got a used one for ps2 for 15 bucks and it works fine over 2 years later, you could probably get a new one, non-official perhaps with the GGC at BB. If your gonna spend 150 on either a PS2 or a Xbox plus tax, another controller, and a game who cares about 20 bucks more for a memory card, go all out.

Besides PS2 games are cheaper, the PS2 games always get the markdowns while xbox games get a smaller cut, i.e. kill//switch recently and just look on ebay. And don't say cause their crappier, it's because of ps larger library which naturally means less of an individual title will be sold which leads to more quantities which get marked down for us. Gamecube with there smaller selection has every other game become GH.

[coolcps]

PS2 because alot more quality games than xbox.

[Goodtone]

This just in........

Game System Olympics results:

1st Place GOLD MEDAL: XBOX

2nd Place: SILVER MEDAL: Gamecube

3rd Place: BRONZE MEDAL: Playstation 2

The difference between Silver and Bronze was the closest we've ever seen at any other game system Olympics...

Please remember just making it to the game system Olympics makes them a WINNER!!!

[Goodtone]

additional news.......
The Game system Olympics committe is looking into the possibility of performance enhancing microchips and is currently testing all of the winners.....more updates as the official information comes in...

[alongx]

This just in........

Game System Olympics results:

1st Place GOLD MEDAL: XBOX

2nd Place: SILVER MEDAL: Gamecube

3rd Place: BRONZE MEDAL: Playstation 2

The difference between Silver and Bronze was the closest we've ever seen at any other game system Olympics...

Please remember just making it to the game system Olympics makes them a WINNER!!!

This just in........

Game System Sales Olympics results:

1st Place GOLD MEDAL: Playstation2

2nd Place: SILVER MEDAL: Gamecube

3rd Place: BRONZE MEDAL: Xbox


EDIT: That was just me being a jerk.

[alongx]

Hard drive saves a ton of money. I have about 25 memory cards worth of space used for saves, at least! I also have some cds on there.

What do you do? Have like 25 saves for every game? Game saves don't take up that much space - I have 26 games saved on my PS2 memory card and I still have about 3MB left. The harddrive is nice when it's used to cut load times, and custom soundtracks can be a good extra feature for a game, but I've saved...$25? for a memory card. I am just baffled how you managed to use 200 MB of space just on saves, when most saves are only a few kilobytes tops.

Keep in mind the ps2 is a weaker system so programing doesn't require as much as an xbox, so many little games or bad ones come out for that and the reason of more people own it.

You actually could not be more wrong. It has been declared to be one of the hardest, if not the hardest, console to program for, ever. The way that the vector graphics units are set up require mostly assembly code. In contrast, most of the big Xbox games are written in C++, which is considerably easier and shorter to write. There's also the fact that pretty much any game for a Windows machine can be ported to the Xbox within 2 months, to quote MS reps' figures from before the system was launched. Gamecube is harder than the Xbox, I'd imagine, but that's only assuming it's harder to program for a Mac than a Windows machine. In fact, despite being the most technologically advanced system, the Xbox is the easiest to code for, and thus the easiest to develop for.

However, I'm glad to see that you're on the pulse of the video game industry. As you said, it's because all of the shitty, little games come to the PS2, thats why people buy it. :roll:

[Goodtone]

This just in........

Game System Olympics results:

1st Place GOLD MEDAL: XBOX

2nd Place: SILVER MEDAL: Gamecube

3rd Place: BRONZE MEDAL: Playstation 2

The difference between Silver and Bronze was the closest we've ever seen at any other game system Olympics...

Please remember just making it to the game system Olympics makes them a WINNER!!!

This just in........

Game System Sales Olympics results:

1st Place GOLD MEDAL: Playstation2

2nd Place: SILVER MEDAL: Gamecube

3rd Place: BRONZE MEDAL: Xbox

The first results were the Official ones and the second ones were the ones that the Japanese Fantasy Gaming olympics made up.... for their fantasy gaming league

[CaseyRyback]

This just in........

Game System Olympics results:

1st Place GOLD MEDAL: XBOX

2nd Place: SILVER MEDAL: Gamecube

3rd Place: BRONZE MEDAL: Playstation 2

The difference between Silver and Bronze was the closest we've ever seen at any other game system Olympics...

Please remember just making it to the game system Olympics makes them a WINNER!!!

This just in........

Game System Sales Olympics results:

1st Place GOLD MEDAL: Playstation2

2nd Place: SILVER MEDAL: Gamecube

3rd Place: BRONZE MEDAL: Xbox

The first results were the Official ones and the second ones were the ones that the Japanese Fantasy Gaming olympics made up.... for their fantasy gaming league

you are the dillusional one. The Xbox is a port machine. It is highly rare that a game is truely exclusive and good for the Xbox.

[Goodtone]

you are the dillusional one. The Xbox is a port machine. It is highly rare that a game is truely exclusive and good for the Xbox.

So please tell me which system the following games were ported to the XBOX from:

Halo, Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden, Fable, Project Gotham racing 2, Riddick, Rallisport Challenge 2, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Halo 2

The video card in the PS2 "can't handle the truth"

[rywateska]

....http://archive.gamespy.com/bizbuzz/april02/bizbuzz13/xbox1.jpg Halo, Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden, Fable, Project Gotham racing 2, Riddick, Rallisport Challenge 2, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Halo 2...oh, and http://www.dslextreme.com/console/images/xbox-live.jpg

[Pylis]

Xbox all the way--I spend most of my time with that. I've personally always hated the PS2; don't get me wrong, it's worth owning because it has a lot of great exclusives, I just think the hardware itself is shitty in comparison to the other consoles.

[Eclipse]

youve got to consider that the ps2 came out nearly 2 years before the xbox. And that its still giving other companies a run for their money.

So dont be hatin'.

[Duo_Maxwell]

I think you mean 1 year before...

[Nephets]

I'll go with the numerous others and say that it depends on your style.

If you like platformers or RPG's, go PS2.

Or if you're like me and love action games and FPS' (and love to play online), go Xbox. But, remember that the best Xbox games are also on the PC, but, Xbox Live is amazing.

If you're a big online gamer, go Xbox, if not, go PS2.

The GCN is my favorite system, due to the great titles... great first party titles, if it wasn't for those, I wouldn't have nearly as many games as I own.

Just, be sure you wait and pick up the PStwo (if you decide to get a PS2), comes out in less than a month I think, it looks awesome.

[Goodtone]

This is the way it REALLY is.............The XBOX is for the "hip" cool "in" crowd that want to be "cutting edge" and in style with what is up to date and the latest greatest thing. If you want to have lots of girls worship you and be popular, then go with the XBOX.
The PS2 is for the Anime fanboy types that think they live in Japan and live in a delusional Final Fantasy world of battle statistics and cutesy cartoon animal furries. They dream of aniimorphic love and drink grape powerade and read comics...so if you are into that, go with PS2....
and.......
....
....
......of course I am kidding around as usual and really, both systems are great except XBOX is a real gaming system for real gamers and PS2 is like Trix the cereal....What do they say about TRIX? Please someone say it......

[Eclipse]

wow! good one Goodtone! LOL111111 that was like, hilarious. Of course, im not a sarcastic guy or anything. Thanks for sharing that 'fresh' joke/comment of yours. That trix comment was priceless! You go, girl!

:wink:

[Goodtone]

This is the way it REALLY is.............The XBOX is for the "hip" cool "in" crowd that want to be "cutting edge" and in style with what is up to date and the latest greatest thing. If you want to have lots of girls worship you and be popular, then go with the XBOX.
The PS2 is for the Anime fanboy types that think they live in Japan and live in a delusional Final Fantasy world of battle statistics and cutesy cartoon animal furries. They dream of aniimorphic love and drink grape powerade and read comics...so if you are into that, go with PS2....
and.......
....
....
......of course I am kidding around as usual and really, both systems are great except XBOX is a real gaming system for real gamers and PS2 is like Trix the cereal....What do they say about TRIX? Please someone say it......

I didn't write this, my Bass player came in here and typed this when I was downstairs in the studio working on a guitar part for our new song. So I can't take credit for this one.....

[Sartori]

This is the way it REALLY is.............The XBOX is for the "hip" cool "in" crowd that want to be "cutting edge" and in style with what is up to date and the latest greatest thing. If you want to have lots of girls worship you and be popular, then go with the XBOX.
The PS2 is for the Anime fanboy types that think they live in Japan and live in a delusional Final Fantasy world of battle statistics and cutesy cartoon animal furries. They dream of aniimorphic love and drink grape powerade and read comics...so if you are into that, go with PS2....
and.......
....
....
......of course I am kidding around as usual and really, both systems are great except XBOX is a real gaming system for real gamers and PS2 is like Trix the cereal....What do they say about TRIX? Please someone say it......

I didn't write this, my Bass player came in here and typed this when I was downstairs in the studio working on a guitar part for our new song. So I can't take credit for this one.....

..thank god man..

[Zenithian Legend]

Well you know what they say, every good post deserves a horse; so, with that in mind, I shall reply to a few of your comments & questions:


I'm surprised that Rare is part of this equation at all. Grabbed by the Ghoulies was pretty poor, and, IMHO, Conker doesn't look like it'll be worth it (It looks great, but I didn't find the multiplayer in Conker's BFD to be fun at all, so I wouldn't want to buy a game centered on what I felt was the worst part of the original). I'm also surprised that you didn't mention Xenosaga Ep. 2 as a reason for PS2 - Xenosaga Ep. 1 was probably the most enjoyable RPG I played on the PS2 so far.

Bah... that same friend that I mentioned earlier played through Xenosaga and I watched a bit and was a bit disappointed to be honest. As for rare, I really enjoyed all of the Rare games for the N64, in fact had Rare not made games for the N64 I might have sold mine off; however, I ended up having fun with Blast Corpse, Banjo-Kazooie (didn't play the 2nd one though), Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, Donkey Kong 64, and Conker's BFD, which is one of my all-time favorite games. Oh, and there was this game called Goldeneye that was a dorm obsession back during my freshman year, and an obsession in late high school between my brother, our friends and myself. The thing is I think Nintendo had a lot to do with the success of some of those games, plus the James Bond days have long left Rare. With TimeSplitters there's really no need for Perfect Dark, although I will miss the next Conker game, but once again I think that the first one ended perfectly. In fact Conker BFD had one of the best endings in any game I've ever played, but that's probably only IMHO.

Zenthian, I have always bought Nintendo, and I play my PS2 more than my GCN now (mainly because I have played most of the good titles already for the GCN). Sony has the best action platforming games, the best fighting games, and a ton of unique titles that are worth checking out due to the fact that they are just fun.

Uh oh, another loyalist. I blame my grandma, she was the one that got us the NES years ago for Xmas, and then the SNES on Xmas years after that. Plus the Nintendo Power to fuel the need for more nintendo games. I swear Nintendo must have bought her out somewhere along the line.


The GCN is my favorite system, due to the great titles... great first party titles, if it wasn't for those, I wouldn't have nearly as many games as I own.

Just, be sure you wait and pick up the PStwo (if you decide to get a PS2), comes out in less than a month I think, it looks awesome.

What is this PStwo you speak of... hmm time to go do some research here.


so how do you feel about it so far? what are you leaning towards and why?

This is the big one... I'm going to have to say right now despite the poll leaning towards the Xbox, I'm favoring the ps2 or pstwo. The debate has shifted away from Rare and more towards sports games. I've always wanted to freely save my seasons for MLB, NBA, NFL and NHL games, but that always takes up so much damn space on the memory cards that I never did it. At least on the GC memory cards, and I'd rather play a sports game on GC than ps2, and obviously the Xbox would be the ideal choice. However, there's still the matter of all those RPGs that I would like to play. True I already played FFX, and after watching my friend for 30 minutes or so, I have no desire to play FFX-2, but there's still plenty of other good RPGs to play. I may end up simply waiting until after Thanksgiving to pick up another system, since they'll probably be a few Xmas sales that I could capitalize on.


Ah, I've come up with another idea! (underlined so someone will notice that) How about all of those Xbox people and all of you PS2 folk list your top 5 games for the system, or top 3 if you don't really want to think about it, in no particular order. Please omit any EA sports games, since those are on all 3 systems.

[Zenithian Legend]

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/245719.asp

Is this it nephets? The pstwo? What's this about not being compatable with the PS2 hard drive... probably not that important, but still?

[Mospeada_21]

Also being a GC owner and considering another system.

I'd get a new PSTwo for the GunCon games and the GTA:VC & SA series. My brother has a PS2, so I do get to play some games on it.

Halo 2 on the XBox is also too cool. My cousin has an XBox, and Halo rocked! Halo makes other FPS look like kindergarden.

I normally do not purchase a system just based upon one game. But that's how I ended up with a GC thanks to Metroid Prime.

Of the three systems, I do notice that GC controllers have the fastest response time with on-screen action, and that there is a slight 'noticeable' delay (for me anyway) with PS2 and XBox controllers' response time with on-screen action. Is this some kind of interface delay? Does anyone else notice this too?

[dafoomie]

Buy them both used.

[el bobo]

PS2 has some pretty impressive titles coming out soon, not that Xbox doesn't. I would get them both honestly.

[Zenithian Legend]

I believe I said there was only room enough in the barn for one more system at the moment. Oh, and for my money Halo isn't even the best FPS on the Xbox that I've played. That title would have to go to Brute Force, much better replay value (IMO) and it's more squad-combat based, since in Halo your "squad" dies so fast.

[dafoomie]

OK, here's what you do.

Make a list of games for each system that you'd buy right now if you owned it, a list of games you'd get eventually, and a list of upcoming titles. Compare them and find out which group of games you want more, because thats all that really matters.

Unless you plan on playing online, then get an Xbox. Or if all of the games you want are multiplatform.

[Explosion]

xbox fails in the platformer department, so ps2 is my favorite.

[Othergods]

I have and love both systems.....Read my first posting on page 2 of this thread

I just think that if you had to choose one, and money for memory cards is an issue, the XBOX wins out easily. You will save at least $50 alone on memory cards.

Analogy:
My opinion is that why would you buy a 2 year old car with older technology, when you could have the newest model up to date one with the more technilogically advanced engine?

How many memory cards do you need? Do you keep every save?

If not, you're greatly exaggerating.

I am begining to think that you do not even play games man, if 8MB is more than enought memory for you. You go on and on about the titles that PS2 has, with this many titles you will need to spend $50 on memory cards unless you delete your saves.

[dafoomie]

xbox fails in the platformer department, so ps2 is my favorite.
Metal Slug 3, Blinx 1+2, Conker, Crash, Gunvalkyrie, Rayman 3, Tak 2...

I wouldn't necessarily say Xbox fails in that department, but you can't throw a rock without hitting a PS2 platformer, so its probably the console for you.

I am begining to think that you do not even play games man, if 8MB is more than enought memory for you. You go on and on about the titles that PS2 has, with this many titles you will need to spend $50 on memory cards unless you delete your saves.
I agree, you can not get by with 1 memory card on PS2. Some of us like to keep our old savefiles so we can go back and play games later that we've already beaten, or start more than one game at a time without finishing it. Also, having multiple savefiles in a game is helpful in case you get stuck at one point, or passed a point where you needed something, and need to go back a save or two.

[jam3582]

well owning all 3 system is great but if u only have room for one ask urself what do u find urself playing alot on GC if its platformers go with PS2 , if its first person shooters then go on and get an xbox , same with rpgs if uv always loved rpg and havent had much love on GC get the ps2 but if u crave awesome multyplayer and ur friends arent around and are to lazy to move to go out go get an xbox . Id say both consoles are even in terms of how much fun u want to have . But in the spirit of this site u might want to go with the ps2 cause from my observation of this site iv seen way more deals on ps2 games than on xbox ( u guys can correct me if im wrong Im was just making this statement out of an observation ) so just compare the games if u dont have a spending limit , if u do then go for what ever u find cheaper .

[maxflight]

I just have a feeling that there are usually more deals for PS2 games (and a lot of times it's the multiplatform PS2 games) because people usually want the XBOX version. I'm probably wrong though, haha

I agree with the make the list of the games and see what you got idea.

also, you need to try out xbox live at a friend's if you haven't yet. it might help you decide, unless you're never going online.

[organicow]

This is the way it REALLY is.............The XBOX is for the "hip" cool "in" crowd that want to be "cutting edge" and in style with what is up to date and the latest greatest thing. If you want to have lots of girls worship you and be popular, then go with the XBOX.
The PS2 is for the Anime fanboy types that think they live in Japan and live in a delusional Final Fantasy world of battle statistics and cutesy cartoon animal furries. They dream of aniimorphic love and drink grape powerade and read comics...so if you are into that, go with PS2....
and.......
....
....
......of course I am kidding around as usual and really, both systems are great except XBOX is a real gaming system for real gamers and PS2 is like Trix the cereal....What do they say about TRIX? Please someone say it......

I didn't write this, my Bass player came in here and typed this when I was downstairs in the studio working on a guitar part for our new song. So I can't take credit for this one.....

live in Atlanta, in a band, love games....are you living MY life, or am i living YOURS??!! Seriously, what's your band? any good? I live in atlanta too...mebbe i'll come and see you guys if you are playing out. PM me if ya like.

[Lorik]

Well I'm another person who owns all three. I bought a PS2 on launch, was diehard Sony for 2 years until it got the classic "Disc Read Error" and bit the dust. Luckily EB was paying 100 bucks at the time for broken PS2s and I picked up an XBOX and Star Wars: KOTOR. Since then I have repurchased PS2, and picked up a GC.

I think picking up the Xbox was one of the bets decisions I've made in regards to gaming. I use it far more than the other two, and anything multiplatform gets purchased on the xbox. I'm more comfortable with the controller now as well.

In the end it all comes down to the games though. PS2 has the fighters (although XB is catching up) and the Japanese Style RPGs. Xbox has the FPS, and IMO, plays sports games much better. I got the feeling that you're into sports games a bit. The Xbox will play those games with better graphics, and you can save many, many seasons thanks to the HD. If I misunderstood and you aren't into sports games, ignore that comment.

Well, to sum it up, I would go with the XBox.

[x0thedeadzone0x]

Blah. It totally depends on if you have a good computer or not, because if you do, there's almost no reason to get an Xbox as all the good games are probably available on PC. I prefer the PS2 over my GC, so I'd definitely go with PS2. Xbox doesn't really interest me, but that's just me. But if you even like RPG's, you have to have a PS2.

[Eclipse]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38702000/jpg/_38702889_console_wars300.jpg

The empires will fall.

[Sartori]

I have and love both systems.....Read my first posting on page 2 of this thread

I just think that if you had to choose one, and money for memory cards is an issue, the XBOX wins out easily. You will save at least $50 alone on memory cards.

Analogy:
My opinion is that why would you buy a 2 year old car with older technology, when you could have the newest model up to date one with the more technilogically advanced engine?

How many memory cards do you need? Do you keep every save?

If not, you're greatly exaggerating.

I am begining to think that you do not even play games man, if 8MB is more than enought memory for you. You go on and on about the titles that PS2 has, with this many titles you will need to spend $50 on memory cards unless you delete your saves.

I'm speaking from the perspective of observing my casual gaming friends - there's no way they'd go over a memory card and these people have no issue with deleting saves once they've moved on from the game (often because they'll ttrade them in, or trade them off).

-I- have three memory cards. One's specifically for PSX archiving, though.

Gamecube memory cards, however, are a different story. At least before the 1019.

[Zenithian Legend]

hmm the gap is closing... interesting story though, my roommate decided to get an Xbox today for no particular reason, so I'd say the chances of me getting that PS2 are growing.

[dafoomie]

Or you can get an Xbox and play system link (with 2 TV's or monitors)

[Zenithian Legend]

Why must you make things difficult for me again?

[dafoomie]

Just doing my job.

[dafoomie]

If you really want me to make things difficult, think about 8 player Halo 2 (or 16 with 2 more xboxes), or having 8 players on Halo 2 through XBL with 2 accounts. Your whole 8 person team on XBL could be in the same room.