Soldier Challenges Deployment Based On Obama's Birth ... Wins.

[RAMSTORIA]

U.S. Army major is challenging his deployment to Afghanistan by charging that President Obama was not born in the United States and was therefore never eligible to be president, the Ledger-Enquirer reports.

The suit by Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, a reservist living in Florida, was filed in U.S. District Court in Georgia last week.

The Columbus, Ga., newspaper notes that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state.

Cook’s California-based lawyer, Orly Taitz, seeks a temporary restraining order and status as a conscientious objector for his client.

In a 20-page document filed with the court, Cook states he “would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command. ... simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties.”

Cook was ordered to active duty on June 9 and would go to Fort Benning, Ga., before deploying overseas.


http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/07/reservist-balks-at-deployment-challenging-obamas-citizenship-.html

Yesterday we told you about a U.S. Army reservist from Florida who has filed a suit in federal court challenging his deployment to Afghanistan by arguing that President Obama was not born in the United States and was therefore never eligible to be president and commander-in-chief.

Now the Columbus, Ga., Ledger-Enquirer, which broke the story, quotes Army officials as saying that deployment orders for U.S. Army Major Stefan Frederick Cook have been revoked. Cook originally was to report to MacDill Air Force Base today for mobilization to active duty.

The newspaper quotes Army public affairs officer Lt. Col. Maria Quon as saying that Cook had volunteered in May to go to Afghanistan and that reservists who volunteer for active duty can ask for a revocation up until the day they are set to deploy.

Quon said Cook had not asked for such a revocation, but would not elaborate on why the orders were pulled, citing privacy rules. Neither Cook nor his lawyer was available for comment, the paper reports.

The newspaper says a hearing is scheduled in federal court on Thursday regarding Cook's initial request challenging his deployment..

Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.


http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/07/deployment-revoked-for-reservist-challenging-obamas-citizenship.html

and right wing consipiracy theorists are undoubtedly going nuts. WTF army? why would you give in like this so easily, what kind of message are they trying to send? my brother is coming home this weekend for the last time before he deploys to Iraq, i'll let him know how easy he can weasel out of it in case he changes his mind about going.

[woodraskam]

The Columbus, Ga., newspaper notes that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, two years after it became a state.

So how was he not born in the U.S.?

I don't get it.

[Bmac1775]

Very interesting story. It will be great to see what happens. I bet more and more will be jumping on board.

Obama has said Hawaii but hasn’t proved it to my knowledge.

[HowStern]

^Not only has his birth certificate been made publicly available but the birth announcements in both of Honolulu's major papers have been produced.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

[Dead of Knight]

He didn't "win." The deployment was pulled because the guy is a fucking idiot and they don't want idiots being deployed.

[Bmac1775]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104009

more of the story

"Barack Hussein Obama, in order to prove his constitutional eligibility to serve as president, basically needs only produce a single unique historical document for the Plaintiff’s inspection and authentication: namely, the 'long-form' birth certificate which will confirm whether Barack Hussein Obama was in fact born to parents who were both citizens of the United States in Honolulu, Hawaii, in or about 1961," explains the complaint.

[camoor]

Very interesting story. It will be great to see what happens. I bet more and more will be jumping on board.

Obama has said Hawaii but hasn’t proved it to my knowledge.

That ain't going to happen.

Conspiracy theories should be entertaining, this one is fucking lame. Clicking on this thread is like sitting down to an M. Night Shyamalan movie, by the time you realize it's shit you've already wasted 5 minutes of your life you'll never get back.

[fatherofcaitlyn]

He didn't "win." The deployment was pulled because the guy is a fucking idiot and they don't want idiots being deployed.

The stupidest people should be on the front line with the least amount of equipment.

[Koggit]

"The newspaper quotes Army public affairs officer Lt. Col. Maria Quon as saying that Cook had volunteered in May to go to Afghanistan and that reservists who volunteer for active duty can ask for a revocation up until the day they are set to deploy."



wow.. the guy sounds like an epic douche.. soo..

he volunteered for deployment, then challenged the deployment in court, despite the fact that he could've just said "i dont wanna go"... so pretty much sounds like the only reason he volunteered to go was so that he could be in the newspaper

[KingBroly]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104009

more of the story

"Barack Hussein Obama, in order to prove his constitutional eligibility to serve as president, basically needs only produce a single unique historical document for the Plaintiff’s inspection and authentication: namely, the 'long-form' birth certificate which will confirm whether Barack Hussein Obama was in fact born to parents who were both citizens of the United States in Honolulu, Hawaii, in or about 1961," explains the complaint.

I thought his father was Kenyan (i.e. not a US citizen).

Anyways...I find it odd that they backed down so quickly on this (at least by knowledge it was quick).

[fatherofcaitlyn]

That ain't going to happen.

Conspiracy theories should be entertaining, this one is fucking lame. Clicking on this thread is like sitting down to an M. Night Shyamalan movie, by the time you realize it's shit you've already wasted 5 minutes of your life you'll never get back.

So ...

A condensed version of Lady in the Water?

[Cheese]

Dear Republicans,

Please continue this.

Thanks,

Democrats

[JolietJake]

Someone is trying to weasel out of their obligations....

[Msut77]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104009

more of the story

"Barack Hussein Obama, in order to prove his constitutional eligibility to serve as president, basically needs only produce a single unique historical document for the Plaintiff’s inspection and authentication: namely, the 'long-form' birth certificate which will confirm whether Barack Hussein Obama was in fact born to parents who were both citizens of the United States in Honolulu, Hawaii, in or about 1961," explains the complaint.

Keep beating that dead horse.

Only makes cons look crazier and even more dishonest.

[RAMSTORIA]

"The newspaper quotes Army public affairs officer Lt. Col. Maria Quon as saying that Cook had volunteered in May to go to Afghanistan and that reservists who volunteer for active duty can ask for a revocation up until the day they are set to deploy."



wow.. the guy sounds like an epic douche.. soo..

he volunteered for deployment, then challenged the deployment in court, despite the fact that he could've just said "i dont wanna go"... so pretty much sounds like the only reason he volunteered to go was so that he could be in the newspaper

well the whole thing is stupid. but my point in posting this is that the army is handling this just at moronically, thus feeding the conspiracy nuts. if you read the article that quote is from Quon goes on to say Cook hasnt asked formally asked for the order to be revoked. so why revoke the orders then? ship his dumb ass over there.

"A reserve soldier who volunteers for an active duty tour may ask for a revocation of orders up until the day he is scheduled to report for active duty," Quon said.

She added that there is an administrative process to request revocation of orders. As of this afternoon, Cook had not asked for his orders to be revoked, Quon said. She could not say why the soldier's orders were pulled today by 3 p.m. CDT.

"Because of the Privacy Act I couldn't go into it," Quon said.

[mykevermin]

Eh, it's not feeding the conspiracy nuts.

It's feeding people who just want to come to the conclusion that they want to - that Obama is not a citizen. You post two quotes in the OP that explain the context perfectly (he did not win his challenge, but got yanked by the military in a way he did not want or request), fail to acknowledge that chasm, and, instead, refer to this as a "win" in your title.

You're framing it in an incorrect way, feeding those kinda of fuckers who want to believe this stuff. You're not doing a good job of pointing out the absurdity of it when you've taken it upon yourself to inform us of it.

[RAMSTORIA]

yeah, i was going to change the title so it says "Wins", but then i never did it. you gotta hit that edit button, go to advance, and save it... its just too much work for me sometimes.

[speedracer]

well the whole thing is stupid. but my point in posting this is that the army is handling this just at moronically, thus feeding the conspiracy nuts. if you read the article that quote is from Quon goes on to say Cook hasnt asked formally asked for the order to be revoked. so why revoke the orders then? ship his dumb ass over there.
The top brass can't possibly send someone over that did this. There is no way on god's earth this guy isn't going to be a symbol for snubbing the civilian oversight of the military. And hell, that's assuming he wouldn't overtly speak out against the president while in uniform (and who's willing to suggest he wouldn't?), which is bad for everyone in the military.

We all had conversations in the military about what dumbasses Clinton and Bush were (I was in during both), but this is waaaaaaaaaaay past that. He's not even a joe or some low level non-commissioned sergeant. This guy's a friggin major. He will at least be the executive office for a battalion, and may even be directly in charge of hundreds of soldiers. Our conversations happened at 2 in the morning with people of near equal rank and we sure as shit didn't talk about it with high ranking officers. I would NEVER have talked shit around anyone higher than an O-2, and probably not even then. This guy is an O-4. The stink coming off this guy would be a major distraction. Thinking your boss's boss's boss's boss is a brutal idiot is one thing. Knowing it's this guy would be crazy.

His ass should be stomped out of the service. He intentionally created a situation in which he could inject politics into his service and is directly challenging civilian leadership.

The low level guys that challenged Bush got stomped. So should he.

[mykevermin]

^ Devil's advocate: do you agree that the one openly homosexual dude who was an arabic translator should have come out like he did?

[fatherofcaitlyn]

Any thoughts about generating a fake civil war?

If you have enough officers saying they won't follow orders from Obama and they can pull their men with them ...

[Bmac1775]

Any thoughts about generating a fake civil war?

If you have enough officers saying they won't follow orders from Obama and they can pull their men with them ...

Hummm

[speedracer]

^ Devil's advocate: do you agree that the one openly homosexual dude who was an arabic translator should have come out like he did?
Huh. I had to google him. I didn't hear about it. I assume we're talking about this guy (http://www.urbanchristiannews.com/ucn/2009/07/panel-wants-openly-homosexual-guardsman-discharged.html) and not this guy (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14052513/).

Yes, he should have been discharged. The policy in place is an unholy piece of goddamn shit but hell, half the stuff in the UCMJ is bullshit anyway. Them's the rules and we all know them. Should he have come out? If that's what he needs, I guess. Being open and honest about sexual preference and going after the commander in chief are two different games though.

You did a great job of raising my blood pressure though. Two arabic translators that don't want to leave the military being booted just this month. Hey conservatives, does losing arabic translators make our country safer? You happy now bitches?

*Ahem*

Yea. Sucks.

[mykevermin]

Yep. Choi not Bleu. Couldn't remember their names.

Bleu Copas was several years ago - was there another recent one?

[depascal22]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104009

more of the story

"Barack Hussein Obama, in order to prove his constitutional eligibility to serve as president, basically needs only produce a single unique historical document for the Plaintiff’s inspection and authentication: namely, the 'long-form' birth certificate which will confirm whether Barack Hussein Obama was in fact born to parents who were both citizens of the United States in Honolulu, Hawaii, in or about 1961," explains the complaint.

No where in the US Constitution does it say your parents have to be natural born to be eligible for the Presidency. Obama was born in the United States in 1961. Even if he was born in 1958 (before Hawaii became a state), he would still be eligible because Hawaii was a United States territory from 1896 to 1958.

United States vs Wong Kim Ark

The Supreme Court decided that a person

-- is born in the United States
-- of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power
-- whose parents have a permanent domicile in the US
-- whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject

becomes, at the time of his/her birth, a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.

That being said, his mother is still a natural born citizen and since he was born in Hawaii, he is a natural born citizen.

Since we're on the subject, where do you think Obama was born? Do you think he was smuggled from Kenya in a broad conspiracy plot by the Kenyans so they can take over our government? I'd believe that if Obama signed a trillion dollar free money program for the Kenyan government but we haven't heard one peep about them so far.

[Msut77]

Facts will not keep people like bmac and the birthers from spreading this steaming pile of lies.

[fullmetalfan720]

Since we're on the subject, where do you think Obama was born? Do you think he was smuggled from Kenya in a broad conspiracy plot by the Kenyans so they can take over our government? I'd believe that if Obama signed a trillion dollar free money program for the Kenyan government but we haven't heard one peep about them so far.
No, he was born on the planet Alpha Draconis, and smuggled here as a reptilian hybrid to enslave humans. Geez, don't you know the truth?:lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_humanoid#Conspiracy_theory
According to writer David Icke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke), 7-foot (2.1 m) tall, blood-drinking, shape-shifting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape-shifting) reptilian humanoids from the star system Alpha Draconis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Draconis) are the force behind a worldwide conspiracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory#Extraterrestrials) directed at humanity. He claims that the reptilians maintain their control through the generation of fear and negative emotion, which is food to these entities, by manufacturing conflicts, primarily wars. He contends that most of the world's leaders are in fact related to these reptilians.

[depascal22]

Seriously though, where was Obama born if he's not an American?

[speedracer]

Yep. Choi not Bleu. Couldn't remember their names.

Bleu Copas was several years ago - was there another recent one?
You're right. I saw July and assumed it was this July.

[mykevermin]

The logical link from Ron Paul supporter to Alex Jones listener to David Icke believer is a very brisk walk, IMO.

[speedracer]

The logical link from Ron Paul supporter to Alex Jones listener to David Icke believer is a very brisk walk, IMO.
I would preface that with Ayn.

[fullmetalfan720]

The logical link from Ron Paul supporter to Alex Jones listener to David Icke believer is a very brisk walk, IMO.
I hope you aren't talking about me, and I hope you realize that was a joke. I was comparing how ridiculous these claims that Obama wasn't born here are to the kind of ridiculous shit David Icke believes in.

[Bmac1775]

Facts will not keep people like bmac and the birthers from spreading this steaming pile of lies.


Cry me a river, I am only looking for the truth on the story and was following up on the story in another article. Man you guys take this like he is your Messiah. If I hurt your feelings I apologies, not meaning to make anyone cry.

I mean, seriously he is doing such a wonderful job and all, dont get your panties in a bunch, I m still gonna pay my taxes so you can have internet and food.

[mykevermin]

I'd be just as ashamed to listen to Alex Jones as I would read David Icke.

[fullmetalfan720]

I'd be just as ashamed to listen to Alex Jones as I would read David Icke.
I don't listen to Alex Jones.

[depascal22]

Cry me a river, I am only looking for the truth on the story and was following up on the story in another article. Man you guys take this like he is your Messiah. If I hurt your feelings I apologies, not meaning to make anyone cry.

I mean, seriously he is doing such a wonderful job and all, dont get your panties in a bunch, I m still gonna pay my taxes so you can have internet and food.

It's normal to question the birthplace of the sitting President of the United States? This isn't about his policies or the job he's doing. This is just another attempt of the right to make person of color seem foreign and thus less suitable for higher office.

Since you seem to believe that he's not a natural born citizen, give us some evidence on your side that says he was born in Kenya or some other foreign country. Don't give us the old abscence of evidence is proof of a some vast conspiracy bullshit.

[fullmetalfan720]

It's normal to question the birthplace of the sitting President of the United States? This isn't about his policies or the job he's doing. This is just another attempt of the right to make person of color seem foreign and thus less suitable for higher office.

Since you seem to believe that he's not a natural born citizen, give us some evidence on your side that says he was born in Kenya or some other foreign country. Don't give us the old abscence of evidence is proof of a some vast conspiracy bullshit.
Yeah, you shouldn't attack a President because they supposedly weren't born here (and you have no real facts to back up that idea), you should instead like at what they have done as president.

[depascal22]

I'm OK with disagreeing with a President's policies. It's your right as an American. I was a huge Bush hater but I never claimed he was a Saudi spy implanted by the Arabs to facilitate 9/11. I never thought he was so beholden to oil money that he would prostitute this country.

It's these subtle jabs at Obama's lineage that shows me that racism is still alive and well in America. Let's throw his middle name out there until people think he's really an Arab. Let's demand to see his birth certificate because I want to know if he's a sneaky Kenyan spy. All this crap is nauseating.

[Bmac1775]

It's normal to question the birthplace of the sitting President of the United States? This isn't about his policies or the job he's doing. This is just another attempt of the right to make person of color seem foreign and thus less suitable for higher office.

Since you seem to believe that he's not a natural born citizen, give us some evidence on your side that says he was born in Kenya or some other foreign country. Don't give us the old abscence of evidence is proof of a some vast conspiracy bullshit.


you got me...its a black thing....hahahah

what part of my postings did I say he was born somewhere else, I was mearly saying...to my knowledge he had not settled the issue. WHen did I say anything to conspiracy too? Please repost that. I understand though. I have upset you. I will send you a tie die shirt and a tree so you can be at peace. This offer stands for all of the Obamanites.

[bmulligan]

I'm OK with disagreeing with a President's policies. It's your right as an American. I was a huge Bush hater but I never claimed he was a Saudi spy implanted by the Arabs to facilitate 9/11. I never thought he was so beholden to oil money that he would prostitute this country.

It's these subtle jabs at Obama's lineage that shows me that racism is still alive and well in America. Let's throw his middle name out there until people think he's really an Arab. Let's demand to see his birth certificate because I want to know if he's a sneaky Kenyan spy. All this crap is nauseating.


I love how constitutionality about his citizenship is so important now. 8 years ago the constitution didn't mean squat because Bush stole the presidency from Gore. Hmmmm, those 8 years of Bush hating must have been a counter-conspiracy against Whitey,.....

[speedracer]

I love how constitutionality about his citizenship is so important now. 8 years ago the constitution didn't mean squat because Bush stole the presidency from Gore. Hmmmm, those 8 years of Bush hating must have been a counter-conspiracy against Whitey,.....
I have no idea what you're trying to say here.

[Msut77]

I am only looking for the truth on the story and was following up on the story in another article.

This has been debunked so many times that it is clear you are looking for anything but the truth.

what part of my postings did I say he was born somewhere else

You are either saying that or nothing at all.

I was mearly saying...to my knowledge he had not settled the issue.

There we are. It was settled months ago, try to keep up.

WHen did I say anything to conspiracy too?

For anything you are implying there would have to be a massive conspiracy possibly involving time travel.

[Bmac1775]

Did you ride the short bus(sarcasim), I didnt right the article as you may think, I nearly posted it...

And since you are so knowledgeable on the subject at hand...how about posting the evidence to go along with your very cleaver and witty comebacks(sarcasim)...not that i dont trust ya...just dont want to let ya get off that easy. Should be easy for ya...and I would be very appreciative champ(truth).

[Msut77]

Did you ride the short bus(sarcasm), I didn't write the article as you may think, I merely posted it...

You obviously agree with it.

And since you are so knowledgeable on the subject at hand...how about posting the evidence to go along with your very clever and witty comebacks(sarcasm)

You are a troll right?

Misspellings of that magnitude are usually a dead giveaway.

[Bmac1775]

So that would be no...you are going to show you superior by saying I misspelled a few words(damn that Microsoft Word) rather than address the situation. I gotcha internet warrior. Its clear that you will argue no matter what the subject

No tree for you

I take it you voted for him and by me posting this, it has triggered some deep and yet painful memory or something. Hey just posting the news and asking you to do the same. Come on man, not trying to hurt ya....just looking for some truth(I know, I know you dont think so) but i am. So lets do this, start over.

My name is Bmac1775, dear mr. msut77...could you please post some of your knowledge for me to edumacate(on purpose) my self. Thank you

and if you want you can even point out my Misspelled words

[Msut77]

[So that would be no...you are going to show you superior by saying I misspelled a few words rather than address the situation.

You wish it was a few...

Anyhoo the onus isn't on me but Hawaiian state official confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii and all documentation and information matches, these are things that have been common knowledge for months but I guess it hasn't yet made it to Free Republic. There are even newspaper birth announcements, long story short you are relying on a ginormous conspiracy theory and possibly time travel.

[Bmac1775]

You wish it was a few...

Anyhoo the onus isn't on me but Hawaiian state official confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii and all documentation and information matches. There are even newspaper birth announcements, long story short you are relying on a ginormous conspiracy theory and possibly time travel.

I like time travel idea, just like Jean Claude in time cop....good stuff.

DAMN! awesome idea for his new movie....SWEET

[Msut77]

Fail thy name is bmac.

[Bmac1775]

good come back...now here's a flash back...."give me you lunch money"....hahahahhaha

We all cant be somebodys in the real world, so thats why we have the internet

[depascal22]

So you're just the messenger, bmac? We all knows what happens to them.

[Matt Young]

He didn't "win." The deployment was pulled because the guy is a fucking idiot and they don't want idiots being deployed.

That's not true at all. The Army takes tons of idiots, and I'm sure they're not the only branch.

[Msut77]

That's not true at all. The Army takes tons of idiots, and I'm sure they're not the only branch.

Obviously they are drawing the line at the guys like this, the fucking ebola monkeys of stupid.

Although in my experience the vast majority of the ones spreading this crap don't really believe it.

[depascal22]

The State of Hawaii again declares the President's birth certificate to be valid.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090728/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate

[mykevermin]

Lou Dobbs doesn't care.

LOU DOBBS.

[depascal22]

What kills me is that the due process and legal hawks (conservatives) are the ones demanding that Obama be considered an illegal alien until he personally proves that he's a natural-born citizen. I've know that innocent until proven guilty only applies to white men but this is getting ridiculous.

[fatherofcaitlyn]

I think it is important to focus on trivial things.

There was a horde of zombie elephants trampling through my apartment belching fire and plague, but, BY GOD!, one of the magnets on the fridge was upside down.

[depascal22]

FOC, you're like my crazy uncle that spits cryptic knowledge. There's a nugget in there but you have to have a decoder ring to really get that shit.

[mykevermin]

D-R-I-N-K

M-O-R-E

O-V-A-L-T...aw, crap.

[fatherofcaitlyn]

http://www.wnd.com/images/misc/kenyandocument.jpg

How long until this is determined fake?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

<removes minute hand from stopwatch> <starts stopwatch>

[Msut77]

Took like 15 seconds.

Kenya wasn't a Republic when the document was supposedly made, Mombasa belonged to Zanzibar and not Kenya when Obama was born.

[fatherofcaitlyn]

Took like 15 seconds.

Kenya wasn't a Republic when the document was supposedly made, Mombasa belonged to Zanzibar and not Kenya when Obama was born.

Bravo. Please see me for your reward, a shiny nickel.

[fatherofcaitlyn]

FOC, you're like my crazy uncle that spits cryptic knowledge. There's a nugget in there but you have to have a decoder ring to really get that shit.

It was a metaphor. Nothing cryptic at all.