View Full Version : Starting August 1, Democrats **** us over again.
Nintendonly
07-23-2009, 06:31 PM
Massachusetts sales tax will be raised 25% (going from the original friendly 5% to an ugly 6.25%) thanks to the Demoncrap Deval Patrick. Might as well continue shopping in my home state as there isn't much of a difference now.
http://www.wbur.org/2009/06/29/state-budget-2 (http://www.wbur.org/2009/06/29/state-budget-2)
fullmetalfan720
07-23-2009, 06:39 PM
You're lucky its only 6.25%.
HotShotX
07-23-2009, 06:41 PM
Because that +1.25% really breaks you.
Sorry kids, but 8+ years of irresponsible tax cuts are coming back to bite you in the ass.
~HotShotX
Blackout
07-23-2009, 06:44 PM
Quit bitching. I live in Chicago. Fuck Daley.
RAMSTORIA
07-23-2009, 06:45 PM
yeah, id love to have 6.25%. its a big jump and a sales tax like this is going to hurt poor and middle class families more than anyone else. still, out here in california were damn near 10% in a lot of counties, so just be glad youre not out here.
Because that +1.25% really breaks you.
Sorry kids, but 8+ years of irresponsible tax cuts are coming back to bite you in the ass.
~HotShotX
you say irresponsible tax cuts, i say irresponsible spending, but the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Nintendonly
07-23-2009, 06:48 PM
I know there are other states who have had the pleasure of paying higher taxes than Massachusetts, but that's not the point of this thread. It's the fact that taxes are being raised AGAIN, and by a particular party.
JolietJake
07-23-2009, 06:49 PM
Please, ours is 7.25% counting state only.
HotShotX
07-23-2009, 06:50 PM
yeah, id love to have 6.25%. its a big jump and a sales tax like this is going to hurt poor and middle class families more than anyone else. still, out here in california were damn near 10% in a lot of counties, so just be glad youre not out here.
you say irresponsible tax cuts, i say irresponsible spending, but the truth is somewhere in the middle.
True, but one came before the other. :)
I know there are other states who have had the pleasure of paying higher taxes than Massachusetts, but that's not the point of this thread. It's the fact that taxes are being raised AGAIN, and by a particular party.
Doesn't matter so much as to who does it as it does the fact that it NEEDS to be done. You CANNOT run the budget into the ground like it was and just expect it to recover if you reduce spending.
~HotShotX
State has no money. State needs money. State raises taxes.
Welcome to America.
KingBroly
07-23-2009, 07:14 PM
North Carolina's is nearly 8% and might be 10% next year. So, you have no room to complain.
BTW, Democrats have been in control here a LONG, LONG time. They just keep raising taxes here.
homeland
07-23-2009, 07:24 PM
Still a low % and still not being taxed on food and clothes.
Maybe the OP is trying to make a joke. As if there would be a Mass. Republican. Haven't seen one of those for a while.
SpeedyG
07-23-2009, 07:28 PM
Mine's 10%. Damn Republicans
speedracer
07-23-2009, 09:08 PM
North Carolina's is nearly 8% and might be 10% next year. So, you have no room to complain.
Well gee whiz tar hell, if they just keep raising taxes ever chance you get but you're still under 8%, they must be upping it by what, .015% per go round?
The horror!
BTW, Democrats have been in control here a LONG, LONG time. They just keep raising taxes here.
Hmmm. This *is* the state that gave us Jesse Helms. In the US Senate, the NC offerings have a remarkable pattern of D-R-D-R-D-R for awhile now (we'll discount that whole Dixie Democrat racist thing that skews the numbers before then). On the state side, the Dems seem to own the Governor's mansion pretty much outright. And both state houses. Huh. Wouldn't have guessed. Lived there 3 years and I *NEVER* would have guessed the Dems even split time in charge in NC. Must have been my bubble existence in Fayetteville.
Learn something new every day.
edit: If you haven't noticed by now, it's supposed to be heel. Whoopsie!
Nintendonly
07-23-2009, 09:08 PM
Still a low % and still not being taxed on food and clothes.
Maybe the OP is trying to make a joke. As if there would be a Mass. Republican. Haven't seen one of those for a while.Mitt Romney was right before Deval Patrick, you know...
mykevermin
07-23-2009, 09:42 PM
If states weren't broke as fuck, they wouldn't be raising taxes.
Is it Deval Patrick's fault Mass. is broke as fuck?
As bad as it is, things ain't as fucked up as they are in CA. Cal State has had two tuition increases this year: 10% and 20%.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/22/MN7018STJC.DTL&tsp=1
Fuck.
homeland
07-23-2009, 09:57 PM
Mitt Romney was right before Deval Patrick, you know...
Mitt is as much as a Bay Stater as a Hillary is a New Yorker. I grew up in Mass. I know the history of Republican Governors.
As bad as it is, things ain't as fucked up as they are in CA. Cal State has had two tuition increases this year: 10% and 20%.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/22/MN7018STJC.DTL&tsp=1
Fuck.
Preach on, brotha' Myke. I was approved for transfer in February, and I'm still waiting on a registration date because they don't know if they'll be allowing everyone in. Long Beach and Domiguez Hills both closed their transfers, and Fullerton's taking them in as small groups because they don't know if they'll have the teachers or the classes to support the influx of students.
Might actually end up wasting ANOTHER year at the CC taking blowoff classes because I've taken everything transferable.
elprincipe
07-23-2009, 10:12 PM
State has no money. State needs money. State raises taxes.
Welcome to America.
A bit simplistic. I would prefer this:
state has lots of money
politicians like to pay off favored groups with state money to help themselves get reelected
politicians run out of other people's money to spend
politicians need more money to buy reelection with
state raises taxes to get more money, except on politicians' favored constituencies
Dead of Knight
07-24-2009, 12:07 AM
ONOES, 6.25!!! It's been 7% in RI as long as I can remember. Cry some moar.
HotShotX
07-24-2009, 12:11 AM
Oh snap. Florida doesn't have a sales tax!
~HotShotX
kube00
07-24-2009, 12:18 AM
Bitch some more I got 8% here
mykevermin
07-24-2009, 12:27 AM
Bitch some more I got 8% here
You're my hero.
Really, this thread only exists because people don't realize that actions have consequences.
YOU MEAN WE GOTTA PAY FOR THIS SHIT!?!?!?!?
UncleBob
07-24-2009, 12:31 AM
You're my hero.
Really, this thread only exists because people don't realize that actions have consequences.
YOU MEAN WE GOTTA PAY FOR THIS SHIT!?!?!?!?
If only we could get the politicians to stop shitting everywhere they go...
xycury
07-24-2009, 12:39 AM
man, we're still at 5.5% but I bet it'll be raised this year somehow...
I know local county taxes are raising... because the state is actually stealing funds from the counties to pay for it's deficit.
Magehart
07-24-2009, 04:54 AM
Woah... only a 25% increase in one type of tax? Oh shit... makes my state (California (http://www.boe.ca.gov/pdf/pub71.pdf)) and it's tax increases look like peanuts. Just so we can quit the bitching throw another 25% on that and you'll be on par with Ca.
California had better emerge from this mess as a shining beacon of why the gov't shouldn't have such a heavy hand in every activity of it's population.
dafoomie
07-24-2009, 05:41 AM
I just drive to New Hampshire for big purchases. 'Necessities' like groceries, clothes, shoes, and American flags are tax free in Massachusetts.
Fayt13
07-24-2009, 06:45 AM
10% here, on EVERYTHING.
nasum
07-24-2009, 01:59 PM
MN has a 6.5% sales tax on everything short of groceries and some clothing. There's also a .25% tax in Hennepin County (to build the new Twins Ballpark) and an additional .25% tax in the 5 county "metro area" to support mass transit.
All in all, an effective sales tax rate of 7% isn't all that bad. Where we really get nailed is state fees (vehicle registration, license tabs, etc...) that are significantly higher than those of neighbooring states.
fullmetalfan720
07-24-2009, 02:37 PM
MN has a 6.5% sales tax on everything short of groceries and some clothing. There's also a .25% tax in Hennepin County (to build the new Twins Ballpark) and an additional .25% tax in the 5 county "metro area" to support mass transit.
All in all, an effective sales tax rate of 7% isn't all that bad. Where we really get nailed is state fees (vehicle registration, license tabs, etc...) that are significantly higher than those of neighbooring states.
They actually just raised it here, so its 6.875% state, and I think 7.75% in Minneapolis.
Magehart
07-24-2009, 02:57 PM
I just drive to New Hampshire for big purchases. 'Necessities' like groceries, clothes, shoes, and American flags are tax free in Massachusetts.
Wtf? We get taxed on clothes and shoes here in Cali. I'd love to not be taxed on those.
depascal22
07-24-2009, 03:27 PM
Indiana is sitting at 7%. And this state can't get any redder even though it did flip in the national election last year.
Lutter
07-28-2009, 08:08 PM
It varies in Texas...
Austin sits at 8.25% ;)
To whomever said Florida doesn't have a sales tax... uh, perhaps you live in the boonies or something but when I lived in Orlando it was 6.25% iirc. Florida (and Texas) don't have state income taxes, so that might be what you're thinking of.
Liquid 2
07-28-2009, 08:36 PM
You're my hero.
Really, this thread only exists because people don't realize that actions have consequences.
YOU MEAN WE GOTTA PAY FOR THIS SHIT!?!?!?!?
That's the thing though: more often than not, we're paying for bullshit.
dmaul1114
07-28-2009, 10:26 PM
Yeah, that's still a pretty low sales tax. And pretty much every state is having budget issues and raising taxes, furloughing and laying off state employees etc. etc. Not just democratic states.
The economic crises has just hit state budgets hard.
BillyBob29
07-30-2009, 03:14 PM
8.75 sales tax here but we are seeing all kinds of little taxes increases like on auto registrations and the like.
The Crotch
07-30-2009, 04:32 PM
Woah, hey.
...
Dmaul, didn't you leave these boards?
dmaul1114
07-30-2009, 04:37 PM
For quite a while. Got fed up with the site and had no time for boards in general for a few months while I was finishing up my Ph D. That's out of the way so I'm back to boards for the time being albeit in a more limited sense and doing my damnedest to not get into long debates etc.
Now just to find some time to actually play some games!
daminion
07-30-2009, 06:06 PM
At least Massachusetts doesn't tax clothing that is under something like $175.
Magus8472
07-30-2009, 06:30 PM
Makes me wonder how long Oregon will continue with no state sales tax.
Hell, Oregon residents don't pay sales tax for most things (basically everything except gas and restaurants) in Washington state either.
freakyzeeky
08-11-2009, 01:36 PM
9.75% here in Cali... did I win? :D
The Crotch
08-11-2009, 01:51 PM
Not as long as there are Canadians on the board, comrade.
Sporadic
08-11-2009, 08:24 PM
Oh snap. Florida doesn't have a sales tax!
~HotShotX
wat? it's 6% here
Cheese
08-11-2009, 09:47 PM
A bit simplistic. I would prefer this:
state has lots of money
politicians like to pay off favored groups with state money to help themselves get reelected
politicians run out of other people's money to spend
politicians need more money to buy reelection with
state raises taxes to get more money, except on politicians' favored constituencies
Like the Bush tax cuts?
neschamp
08-12-2009, 06:28 AM
OP, you have it better than people in many other states right now. As said earlier in the thread, Illinois is a mess. Chicago is over 10% and surrounding towns are on the cusp of that. The state budget is a fucking disaster. All kinds of state funded/subsidized programs are getting shut down. I qualified for a good amount of state grant money for school this year, but the money wasn't there to be allocated. No MAP grant for me. :bomb: They were more than happy to loan me the difference though.
Education is the most powerful tool an individual can have in attaining some level of success in this country. It's pretty sucky that government incompetence is serving to be yet another obstacle for people trying to get a degree.
perdition(troy
08-12-2009, 09:56 AM
Education is the most powerful tool an individual can have in attaining some level of success in this country. It's pretty sucky that government incompetence is serving to be yet another obstacle for people trying to get a degree.
lack of free money for school =\= government imcompetence
neschamp
08-12-2009, 11:35 AM
lack of free money for school =\= government imcompetence
Actually, those two things are in direct correlation. The lawmakers in Illinois have been notoriously inept with budgeting the tax money brought in each year. (Corruption is a huge issue here as well.) They spout off about the emphasis they want to put on social services and education. It doesn't really amount to anything.
What are the first things they look to downsize when trying to "fix" their budget? Social services and schools. As a result of the bullshit budget cuts, after school programs that keep kids off the streets in bad neighborhoods have been shut down. Counseling centers for families and students are greatly restricted. Sizeable chunks of money are lopped off public schools operating budgets. Available grant money disappears for the year. I could go on and on. Illinois is right up there with California as far as stupid ass spending goes.
You want an example of the thing they spend otherwise useful tax money on instead? Removing that douchebag Blagojevich's name from all the Illinois toll plazas. I don't even want to imagine how much that all cost.
cochesecochese
08-12-2009, 11:31 PM
Does MA get a tax free holiday this year?
elprincipe
08-23-2009, 03:14 AM
Like the Bush tax cuts?
Yes, at least partially. Just like most programs or policy changes proposed by Republicans and Democrats.
elprincipe
08-23-2009, 03:16 AM
You want an example of the thing they spend otherwise useful tax money on instead? Removing that douchebag Blagojevich's name from all the Illinois toll plazas. I don't even want to imagine how much that all cost.
Don't worry, they probably have put up tons of taxpayer-funded Obama campaign signs as well ("This construction funded by the Recovery Act(TM)!").
cochesecochese
08-23-2009, 05:16 AM
You bumped a ten day old thread and couldn't even answer my question?
Man. That's just weak.
elprincipe
08-23-2009, 07:25 PM
You bumped a ten day old thread and couldn't even answer my question?
Man. That's just weak.
Hey, I was on vacation. Sue me. And I don't live in Taxachusetts :D
opterasis
08-23-2009, 08:30 PM
Does MA get a tax free holiday this year?
No, I don't believe we did. I think a few individual stores were running a weekend sale to try to make up for it the weekend before the tax increase.