DiRT 2 - Gen. Discussion & Info - 9/8 [Mobile/Archive]

Pure Apathy

07-25-2009, 09:59 PM

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/117/10918gametopdirt2.jpg

Release date: 09/03/2009

DiRT 2 will feature a roster of contemporary off-road events, taking players to the most diverse and challenging real-world environments. This World Tour will have players competing in aggressive multi-car and intense solo races at extraordinary new locations, from canyon racing and jungle trails to city stadium-based events.

To be powered by the third generation of the EGO™ Engine’s award-winning racing game technology, DiRT 2 will benefit from tuned-up car-handling physics system and new damage engine effects. It will also showcase a spectacular new level of visual fidelity, with cars and tracks twice as detailed as those seen in GRID.

DiRT 2’s garage houses a best-in-class collection of officially licensed rally cars and off-road vehicles, specifically selected to deliver aggressive and fast paced racing. Covering seven vehicle classes, players will be given the keys to powerful vehicles right from the off. In DiRT 2 the opening drive is the Group N Subaru; essentially making the ultimate car from the original game the starting point in the sequel and the rides just get even more impressive.

In addition to the World Tour, DiRT 2 will come complete with full online functionality that will be core to the overall experience, with head-to-head competitive online play and new social features to engage the racing community. Prepare for mud, gravel, dust and dirt too in DiRT 2, coming 2009.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLcTMot6KwY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jRVIrSBo4g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8nhxQTPZvg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94H5BIHqOhQ

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/25/new-dirt-2-trailers-feature-fancy-cars-lots-of-dirt/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Solm9xg3dGU
Anyone else getting excited for this game?

AceSXE

07-25-2009, 10:09 PM

just started playing dirt, im a little late to the party but im definitely digging the game alot and believe this will be a day 1 pickup for me if its as good as the first is

Monsta Mack

07-25-2009, 11:46 PM

Danil ACE

07-26-2009, 01:36 AM

I hope that they make this version more realistic.

Spybreak8

07-26-2009, 02:19 AM

I'm so in, I so love the first one.

07-26-2009, 01:29 PM

Looking forward to this.

Spybreak8

07-27-2009, 01:02 AM

New video up, Baja Raid
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/25/new-dirt-2-trailers-feature-fancy-cars-lots-of-dirt/
Feel free to embed in OP. ^^

Spybreak8

08-13-2009, 02:43 AM

Ok I'm officially ready for this game, now have 1000 out of 1000 gamerscore from DiRT!

moojuice

08-20-2009, 06:53 PM

For anyone that cares, the demo for this is out. Incorporates the rewind feature from Grid, so that's definitely a nice touch.

08-20-2009, 07:27 PM

For anyone that cares, the demo for this is out. Incorporates the rewind feature from Grid, so that's definitely a nice touch.

Thanks for the heads up on the demo!

whywakeup

08-20-2009, 08:03 PM

Paid in full .

Spybreak8

08-21-2009, 01:04 AM

Oh this and a few other demos are making me want that OXM disc. ^^

SynGamer

08-21-2009, 01:20 AM

Demo was fun, though the steering was a bit...loose? I wouldn't mind a slightly tighter steering/sensitivity but overall, great game.

menikmati

08-21-2009, 02:03 AM

For anyone that cares, the demo for this is out. Incorporates the rewind feature from Grid, so that's definitely a nice touch.

Thanks, downloading it now.

I'm crossing my fingers for the new STi, I loved the first DiRT and hope this will be just as awesome.

whywakeup

08-21-2009, 02:14 AM

im not feeling the effects when you crash , it turns all negative tone . And the steering seems loose . The menu system is almost to XTREME also . The whole thing seems like a Mt Dew red bull add .

VipFREAK

08-21-2009, 02:25 AM

All Codemaster's games have been a FAIL other than the first TOCA and GRiD. This game is actually pretty good. It's like they used everything about GRiD and skinned it to have Rally cars instead of Race Cars. I might actually entertain this game down the road (At least based on the demo).

Razzuel

08-21-2009, 02:37 AM

I thought the demo was amazing. I thought the steering felt great. The car was always turning the way I wanted it to turn—as long as I was going at an adequate speed for said turn. I loved the way the menu is set up. The game has a lot of style and the menu system helps with that. The first game had a minimalistic type of menu while this one is all out insane. I love that insanity because of how detailed it is.

I had a lot of fun playing it. If I have the money, then I am definitely getting this game on day one.

Also, I love the water/mud effects on the windshield after driving through a puddle. Not only is the cockpit view awesome, but subtle touches like that make it even more exciting and immersive.

FriskyTanuki

08-21-2009, 02:44 AM

I enjoyed the demo a lot, though I'm still not much of a fan of the in-car camera, as it feels like I'm sitting too low to really be able to get a sense of the track and the environment. I do like the neat items they have in the demo to decorate your dashboard/rear view mirror with, like your avatar, fuzzy dice, hula dancer, and a few other items.

menikmati

08-21-2009, 04:31 AM

Argh, no STi in the demo *cue Price is Right loser music*

I still had a ton of fun. Switched the transmission to manual and did cockpit view. Man, those puddles totally make your vision FUBAR for a while and creates a bit of tension when you're barreling through courses. The hula dancer on the dash made me grin a little, too. Those little touches really get to me.

I thought the controls/steering were fine. Not too loose and not too shabby. As long as I considered the speed the car was moving and the angle towards the turn, the car went where I wanted it to go. To me, it feels like just the right interaction between the car and dirt was conveyed through the feel of the controls.

08-21-2009, 12:48 PM

The Morroco race had me wanting Rallisport Challenge 3.

evyrew

08-22-2009, 11:44 AM

The Morroco race had me wanting Rallisport Challenge 3.
Rallisport Challenge 2 was my favorite racing game on the original xbox... It was awesome!

Tried out the demo, here are my impressions..

Pros
+The graphics are amazing.
+Rewind feature is great. If you screw up a turn, you can rewind to before the turn. Unfortunately, they use different camera angles to make it feel more "cinematic"... it can sometimes be a blind guess.
+They've pushed it further towards being an arcade racer.
+Sense of speed. Many racing games just don't give you the feeling that you're going very fast, but Dirt pulls it off very well.

Cons
+While the X-games menu system is cool and flashy, it can be confusing at first, and might get old. I suspect that some of it is to cover up the loading time... which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
+The track Hud was too small. On both races, it was almost invisible against the sky.
+Difficult AI: While I'm not the greatest at racing games, I normally do pretty well on medium. I couldn't even place in the top three on the "Serious" difficulty setting. Maybe it was just because I wasn't used the game... did anyone else have issues?

Overall, I'm looking forward to Dirt releasing soon.

OrngRubberDucky

08-22-2009, 05:03 PM

+Difficult AI: While I'm not the greatest at racing games, I normally do pretty well on medium. I couldn't even place in the top three on the "Serious" difficulty setting. Maybe it was just because I wasn't used the game... did anyone else have issues?

With the trophy truck in Baja I did the hardest difficulty after 4 races on normals. The first time I did the hardest I got 2nd relatively easy with a controller. Have not tried on my wheel yet.

Other then that it will most likely be an awesome game.

TctclMvPhase

08-22-2009, 07:40 PM

I wasn't too impressed with this. I was a big fan of just about all the rally games on the original XBox (CMR, VRally and Rallisport Challenge) and this just didnt seem to have the control that most of those had. I agree that the steering felt a bit loose and it reminded me more of the arcade feel of sega rally than the more realistic controls of the aforementioned titles. I had this pre-ordered for GS, but I think I am just going to have to wait for GT5.

Are there any other rally games coming out in the next few months?

Spybreak8

08-23-2009, 12:16 AM

Rallisport Challenge 2 was my favorite racing game on the original xbox... It was awesome!

Overall, I'm looking forward to Dirt releasing soon.

Same and same. It sucks Rallisport Challenge 2 is not BC but 1 is though.

whywakeup

08-23-2009, 11:00 PM

After playing the demo again and have played every Colin Mcrae game made i am a little dissapointed with this game . The whole X-games flair is lame . The crash effects are very poorly chosen . Im still getting it but may wait on a few reviews first . The online however is very smooth and fast . maybe i will give the demo another chance .

jdawgg76

08-24-2009, 01:08 PM

I hope they release a demo before the full release because I'm kind of a skiptic when it comes to the frame rate. I've seen it run at 30FPS straight and some of these trailers show 60fps. I'm guessing the console versions will be 30fps? Any ideas?

Outside of that the first Dirt kicked ass, but I'll probably pass on that one and just buy this one instead.I think passing on the first would a big mistake (well, you know, gaming wise). Despite the controls being a little loose, it was an awesome game and it looks like 2 will be a lot different. Dirt was cool and slick with alot of focus on different aspects of rally and similar racing types. 2 looks like it will be an attempt to reel in the extreme crowd as far as vibe goes.

Ok I'm officially ready for this game, now have 1000 out of 1000 gamerscore from DiRT!Going back to do the championships now. Just have the last one left, buying two more cars and I have to drive a bunch of miles in career mode which I may never do since I'll have unlocked all the cars well before then.

im not feeling the effects when you crash , it turns all negative tone . And the steering seems loose . The menu system is almost to XTREME also . The whole thing seems like a Mt Dew red bull add .I like the effect at impact, but I think it should end there instead of the lasting shot. Baja felt the same to me especially with taking the win when I tried it online (for some reason I always killed the AI on the baja races in dirt1), but the trailblazer race seemed really loose and I'm still getting the grips on controlling it. I'm most used to AWDs and it is an eclipse (RWD? Feels like RWD). I struggled with the overpowered RWD that everyone set course records with in Dirt1 and yet I easily mastered the hillclimb rides.

I was surprised by the extreme vibe although seeing that it was an xgames sponsor and includes the xgames track I shoulda known. I was hoping that the xgames track being included was a sign that Rally America was going to be included to some degree, but it's pretty apparent that they are trying to reach said red bull crowd. I'm more of a rally purist and would prefer a Rally America tie-in (or a new WRC game! Come on Sony there's room for Motorstorm and WRC), but if allying with the extreme crowd (I hear the new rally races are really popular at the Xgames and several extreme athletes are getting into rally so it makes sense) will get rally a higher profile here in the states then I'm all for it after losing WRC and Rally America coverage .

Argh, no STi in the demo *cue Price is Right loser music*

I still had a ton of fun. Switched the transmission to manual and did cockpit view. Man, those puddles totally make your vision FUBAR for a while and creates a bit of tension when you're barreling through courses. The hula dancer on the dash made me grin a little, too. Those little touches really get to me.

I thought the controls/steering were fine. Not too loose and not too shabby. As long as I considered the speed the car was moving and the angle towards the turn, the car went where I wanted it to go. To me, it feels like just the right interaction between the car and dirt was conveyed through the feel of the controls.Yeah, I think my issue with the controls was probably an issue with the car and not the controls themselves. I woulda been just fine with my STi burning up the tarmac :D

The Morroco race had me wanting Rallisport Challenge 3.We can only dream. RIP awesome rally series.
I wasn't too impressed with this. I was a big fan of just about all the rally games on the original XBox (CMR, VRally and Rallisport Challenge) and this just didnt seem to have the control that most of those had. I agree that the steering felt a bit loose and it reminded me more of the arcade feel of sega rally than the more realistic controls of the aforementioned titles. I had this pre-ordered for GS, but I think I am just going to have to wait for GT5.

Are there any other rally games coming out in the next few months?I think it's the only rally game on the slate. Speaking of pre-ordering at GS, I started a thread about the in store swag received when preordering DiRT2. It's a DVD with previews for the game and some promotional material featuring Ken Block, but most importantly on the picture shown on GS.com there is a $10 coupon for the purchase of DiRT2 on ANY platform except PC which releases later than the gaming platforms.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232234

Thread's rightfully quiet as noone has gotten a DVD yet to confirm the coupon. I keep checking with local Gamestops, but they all say that they'll probably have the preorder swag about two weeks before the release date and to check back then.

I'm probably the biggest rally fan here (I did buy a fliptop lid and swap magic to import and play all the Euro WRC games on PS2), but does anyone know of anyplace to watch rally on TV, specifically WRC or Rally America. Haven't seen WRC since speed dropped it and haven't seen RA since ESPN2/VS dropped it. Dakar once a year if it's not cancelled due to terrorists just isn't enough.

OrngRubberDucky

08-24-2009, 05:42 PM

We can only dream. RIP awesome rally series.
I think it's the only rally game on the slate. Speaking of pre-ordering at GS, I started a thread about the in store swag received when preordering DiRT2. It's a DVD with previews for the game and some promotional material featuring Ken Block, but most importantly on the picture shown on GS.com there is a $10 coupon for the purchase of DiRT2 on ANY platform except PC which releases later than the gaming platforms.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232234

Thread's rightfully quiet as noone has gotten a DVD yet to confirm the coupon. I keep checking with local Gamestops, but they all say that they'll probably have the preorder swag about two weeks before the release date and to check back then.

Dont know how acurate the photos are on there site, but I checked the other day on GS site and the picture shows the coupon for Journeys or some other crap. Nothing about buying the game......

Maybe someone can confirm.

Spybreak8

08-24-2009, 07:30 PM

I don't mind the xgames flavor of the game, then again I tend to prefer arcade games over realistic ones.

slickkill77

08-24-2009, 10:47 PM

This game was a lot of fun online but the grouping system was wacky and the morroco race is f&^$#@ hard

jdawgg76

08-25-2009, 12:35 AM

Dont know how acurate the photos are on there site, but I checked the other day on GS site and the picture shows the coupon for Journeys or some other crap. Nothing about buying the game......

Maybe someone can confirm.You're right. Damn. Up until last week the coupon was obviously different. Damn, I wanted to get it right away AND save ten bucks. Oh well, I'm only getting this CoDMW2 and Uncharted 2 at release and with GS credit from tradeins so ten more bucks isn't the end of the world.

jdawgg76

08-25-2009, 02:40 AM

This game was a lot of fun online but the grouping system was wacky and the morroco race is f&^$#@ hardI just got done replaying Morrocco and had a totally different outcome most likely cause I played a good amount of Dirt 1 first. I was using the Citroen to plow through the final championship rally and I wasn't paying as much attention as possible since I was on the phone and so I had several uncharacteristic wrecks as opposed to my usual characteristic wrecks. Anyway, after a couple I'd have to limp the car the rest of the way and in the next track until I could make it in for repairs. I was so focused on the second track each time that with a damaged car I would do better/near flawless and even set a few PBs. Did two of the national rallies and then switched to D2.

Looking at the Eclipse's fin in particular I have to wonder if it's meant for drifting turns more than proper braking and accelerating. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but without tuning options it's hard to tell. Anyway, in D1 when a car oversteers too much for my driving style I tweak it and since that's not available in the demo (unless I missed it since I was in a hurry) I adjusted my driving style and braked earlier and used the handbrake more in turns and on a track I had previously bombed every time out before this time I passed four cars and won with a substantial lead on Serious. Anyway, it seems that you need to play it safe with a Seb Loeb brake early and accelerate through style approach more than my preferred Tanner Foust drift around corners style. I'd like to see Seb Loeb at the XGames. He'd obliterate those amateurs.

LegendK7ll3r

08-25-2009, 02:48 AM

Huge fan of Dirt, but I'm very disappointed in this. This doesn't play like Dirt, sure, it looks absolutely amazing, but it plays exactly like Grid. Which I thought, quite frankly, sucked. I wish they kept the controlling of vehicles like they had it in Dirt, but they went with the Grid engine instead.

I actually canceled my pre-order due to this.

VipFREAK

08-25-2009, 03:58 AM

Sorry but, it's a good thing it plays like GRiD. DiRT was just a car that turned on it's center axis. There was no realism or any differentiating of what car has what characteristics. Yeah, it may have been easier for you to drive, but if you want an arcade racer go play Burnout or NFS.

Spybreak8

08-25-2009, 08:01 PM

GRID is one of the best racers I've played in my video game career, excluding Super Mario Kart of course lol, that's just a classic. We all have different opinions but saying it sucked is a bit harsh. I believe the game was received well by gamers and reviewers.

whywakeup

08-25-2009, 10:10 PM

mercilessming

08-25-2009, 10:17 PM

It is basically GRID but on DIRT...with tweaks done to the GRID graphics engine...I loved the demo, will wait to read reviews here and other sites. There is just so much coming out, Assassins Creed 2 and Brutal Legend are must for me plus back catalog maybe some day one Halo 3 ODST.....

jdawgg76

08-25-2009, 10:22 PM

Grid was fun , and dirt was fun but i wish they would return to the old style Colin Mcrae games which were brutally sim if you wanted it to be . The e-brake in colin mcrae 3 was vital to the game . This whole Xgames trying to be hip shit went out like ten years ago .Agreed throughout. Grid and Dirt were great, but I too would like a more sim rally game to come out. If you want a serious rally sim (maybe too serious) try out Richard Burns Rally. You'll have to import a PS2 Euro copy or get a US copy for original Xbox or PC although those were limited in supply here.

Spybreak8

08-26-2009, 12:42 AM

Sorry to break it to you guys but studying game art & design and watching the industry, Sims are not going to be all that popular with the masses. And I'm not talking about that one game EA makes that sells like hot cakes either.^^ However with that said I don't see why developers don't have the ability to change how arcady/sims you want the game to react within an options menu or something. It mainly rests with the engine though and the GRID engine is fairly realistic, enough for me anyway. I think if you want a sim like rally game you should look at the PC platform.

VipFREAK

08-26-2009, 03:01 AM

Not on here, but I've said it before many of times... There shouldn't be such a thing as "arcade" these days. It's a cop-out for those like EA that like to half arse shit and pump out games every year. Another great example of this is how in most car games people cry about wanting a "drift" mode. Seriously, those people are idiots. There's no such thing as a "mode" for that. If the physics are there then it will act similar to real life and you can drift. With that said, There's a reason drifting is hard to do. (I don't drift in real life either...) Finally, just because it's sim doesn't mean a console can't do it at this point... They are pretty close to being PCs anyway...

whywakeup

08-26-2009, 03:05 AM

Malik112099

08-26-2009, 04:29 AM

Argh, no STi in the demo *cue Price is Right loser music*

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aheineken

08-26-2009, 08:08 AM

Agreed throughout. Grid and Dirt were great, but I too would like a more sim rally game to come out. If you want a serious rally sim (maybe too serious) try out Richard Burns Rally. You'll have to import a PS2 Euro copy or get a US copy for original Xbox or PC although those were limited in supply here.

I wanted to play Richard Burns's game from the time I first heard about it, but never got a chance. I was a fan of his from his Subaru days.

WRC on PS2 was another great rally sim. It was one of my first games for PS2, and I spent many hours playing it. Turns would come up on you so fast, you had to listen to your co-drivers' pace notes in order to finish with a good time. Real cars, real drivers, and rallys that were designed like the ones in WRC. The physics and visuals were pretty realistic for a game of it's age also. It spawned a few sequels, but I never got around to playing those.

life.exe

08-26-2009, 09:09 AM

The original Colin games were fully adjustable from arcade like to sim . If you are aware of the industry you know that the most popular racing game is a sim . Gran Turismo is insanely popular and forza is not to shabby in its own right . The problem is Rally sims and WRC games in general are not hugely popular . Thats why I do understand their X-Games flash and arcade feel but I can hope for a change in the future . Grid was good but far from realistic but still very fun .
Im going to reserve my judgement until the game actually comes out . Who knows , it may be great and get outstanding reviews .. We will see.

I wouldn't agree. NFS, Midnight Club, and Burnout are more popular than Forza. I'm sure most people only played it because it came with the system.

I enjoyed the demo though. I thought the menu system was great and the gameplay is really fun. I'm definitely considering buying this.

Spybreak8

08-26-2009, 04:53 PM

Finally, just because it's sim doesn't mean a console can't do it at this point... They are pretty close to being PCs anyway...

That wasn't my point, the thing with console games compared to pc games is that they are geared for a wider gaming audience therefore you will find more sim racing games on the PC.

Spybreak8

08-28-2009, 01:18 PM

World Tour Trailer looks exciting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV7poacHVJw

Locations include:
London
California
China
Croatia
Morocco
LA Estadio Del Rey
Utah
Japan
Malaysia

^^

TctclMvPhase

08-31-2009, 03:22 PM

I'm probably the biggest rally fan here (I did buy a fliptop lid and swap magic to import and play all the Euro WRC games on PS2), but does anyone know of anyplace to watch rally on TV, specifically WRC or Rally America. Haven't seen WRC since speed dropped it and haven't seen RA since ESPN2/VS dropped it. Dakar once a year if it's not cancelled due to terrorists just isn't enough.

I understand your situation as another avid rally fan stuck in the US. I actually imported CMR 2005 Plus for PSP to try and get my fix, although I hadnt thought to look to the PS2 games as I only recently picked up a PS2.

WRC has been picked up by HD Theater and is now shown in glorious HD. I cant vouch for it, since getting it would mean spending an extra $60/month on cable. However if they use the Eurosport telecasts, which now also broadcast in HD, its the same quality stuff that Speed used to air. Personally, I just DL all the episodes via Rally Torrents and thern I believe they have Rally America on there as well...

jdawgg76

09-01-2009, 01:31 PM

I understand your situation as another avid rally fan stuck in the US. I actually imported CMR 2005 Plus for PSP to try and get my fix, although I hadnt thought to look to the PS2 games as I only recently picked up a PS2.

WRC has been picked up by HD Theater and is now shown in glorious HD. I cant vouch for it, since getting it would mean spending an extra $60/month on cable. However if they use the Eurosport telecasts, which now also broadcast in HD, its the same quality stuff that Speed used to air. Personally, I just DL all the episodes via Rally Torrents and thern I believe they have Rally America on there as well...As far as the PS2 games go, WRC 4 & 5 are the best and have the most upgrades. 5 even would have hazards to avoid such as passing slow damaged vehicles or taking care around wrecked cars with the codriver on the side of the road waving for you to slow down. 2 & 3 are still good and of course have different rosters and teams. RBR is great, but very technical and punishingly hard to a degree. You may already have it on PC anyway. I got all four WRC games, RBR, and a couple other lesser games a few years ago all off of ebay for no more than $20 w/shipping each or less. Most were less, only WRC 5 was that much and that's cause it hadn't been out long at the time. This reminds me that now that my gaming rig is back up I need to play Xpand Rally.

Thanks for the heads up on HD Theater. I have HD with DirecTV so I'll have to check and see if I get it. I didn't even know about Rally Torrents so I'll have to check that out too.

benjamouth

09-01-2009, 01:38 PM

"But Dirt 2 takes the cake with a skanky Flash gimmick in which you draw a tattoo across a pair of breasts and then save the image to send to your friends or use as wallpaper. Because nothing honors the memory of Colin McRae quite like Gothic script splashed across some woman's cleavage."

Friend just sent me the above, not sure where it came from.

The presentation of the game put me off quite a bit TBH, rallying for someone in marketing's idea of the "extreme sport generation" I do not need.

whywakeup

09-01-2009, 06:31 PM

TctclMvPhase

09-03-2009, 11:37 AM

As far as the PS2 games go, WRC 4 & 5 are the best and have the most upgrades. 5 even would have hazards to avoid such as passing slow damaged vehicles or taking care around wrecked cars with the codriver on the side of the road waving for you to slow down. 2 & 3 are still good and of course have different rosters and teams. RBR is great, but very technical and punishingly hard to a degree. You may already have it on PC anyway. I got all four WRC games, RBR, and a couple other lesser games a few years ago all off of ebay for no more than $20 w/shipping each or less. Most were less, only WRC 5 was that much and that's cause it hadn't been out long at the time. This reminds me that now that my gaming rig is back up I need to play Xpand Rally.

Thanks for the heads up on HD Theater. I have HD with DirecTV so I'll have to check and see if I get it. I didn't even know about Rally Torrents so I'll have to check that out too.

Yeah. I liked RBR, but I have to be in the right mood to play it otherwise I get a bit too worked up. I will be sure to try and find the imported WRC titles, the attention to detail really sounds like theyre worth it.

Definitely check out the torrents and catch up on anything you might have misssed. It has been an interesting season so far and has just gotten really interesting (you may have noticed if youve checked the leaderboards lately).

menikmati

09-03-2009, 02:56 PM

Just read the review on IGN:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/102/1021176p1.html

Sounds good to me, but a major disappointment on reading that only around 20% of all the races are pure time-trial rally races.

It was $56.99 on Amazon yesterday but is back to $59.99, I might just wait until it drops back to $56.99 to apply the ECA discount so that this game can hold me off until ODST.

Spybreak8

09-03-2009, 03:52 PM

Yea I read that review and have to say I'm actually glad they're doing what they're doing. Sorry rally sim fans but I don't think there is enough of you to compare against the pure adrenaline racing junkies out there. I'm glad they've added in more GRID features, that's a great game to pull ideas from. I can't wait, I'm glad they have a variety of events and gameplay modes to do but maybe if they added in the locational races like in GRID you could have people who want to do rally races or other races not affecting how you progress in your single player campaign. Of course you'd have to go do the events you don't want to do, cough drifting cough, at the end if you want 100% completion. ^^

jdawgg76

09-04-2009, 02:38 AM

That quote is great. i agree with you . i started playing Dirt 1 again and like the interface way more .The Dirt 1 interface is the coolest and you can see the evolution from CMR 2005 which was cool as well and kinda similar.
Yeah. I liked RBR, but I have to be in the right mood to play it otherwise I get a bit too worked up. I will be sure to try and find the imported WRC titles, the attention to detail really sounds like theyre worth it.

Definitely check out the torrents and catch up on anything you might have misssed. It has been an interesting season so far and has just gotten really interesting (you may have noticed if youve checked the leaderboards lately).Checked my DirecTV and HD Theater is in my subscription package. Now if only they'd add Rally America as well.
Just read the review on IGN:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/102/1021176p1.html

Sounds good to me, but a major disappointment on reading that only around 20% of all the races are pure time-trial rally races.

It was $56.99 on Amazon yesterday but is back to $59.99, I might just wait until it drops back to $56.99 to apply the ECA discount so that this game can hold me off until ODST.Review looks good , especially the uk. Like their comments on the americanized extreme take in D2. I don't see much of the whole extreme sports stuff on a day to day basis so it's not getting to me that much. Trailblazer's pretty close even though the cars are more overpowered, definitely disappointed there's no hill climb. I'd love to see ice racing come back like Rallisport had. Ice racing seems nuts to me when I see it on Speed. Love when parts of the track are melted and the metal studs in the tires kick sparks like mad.

To be fair about the lack of rally, even though I want more rally myself, when Codemasters announced Dirt 1 they emphasized that it's a game based on off road racing not necessarily rally. We all expect rally since that's the lineage of the series and with CMR still the figure for the first game it was to be expected that rally would be the most prominent.

It would be awesome if Codemasters made an actual CMR Rally game again that focused solely on rally or got the rights to Rally America, wrestled the unused WRC from Sony/Evo Studios, or even got Dakar (I think Akklaim may still have those rights), but in this day and age rally is ignored in the US and therefore it's a niche game, ie not as profitable.

jdawgg76

09-04-2009, 10:41 AM

My internet cut out last night while editing my last post and I'll DP to bump this back up. From the preorder Dirt 2 get $10 off thread:
9-3 UPDATE!!!
Gamestop has changed the deal! The coupon is now $10 off a $50 purchase at Journeys. Boo to GS in changing this. This was noticed on the website a few days ago and I preordered it yesterday to confirm and cause I'm getting it with my credit there on day one anyway. Anyway, no more chance at ten bucks off the actual game.

TctclMvPhase

09-04-2009, 03:04 PM

It would be awesome if Codemasters made an actual CMR Rally game again that focused solely on rally or got the rights to Rally America, wrestled the unused WRC from Sony/Evo Studios, or even got Dakar (I think Akklaim may still have those rights), but in this day and age rally is ignored in the US and therefore it's a niche game, ie not as profitable.

I was under the impression that Sony lost the rights to WRC in 2008 and that the reason why they have not repurchased from FIA is because, much like the F1 license, the price has gone up. I think this may be why there has been no talk of a WRC title for PS3 title despite having the market in Europe. A decent Dakar game would be a nice change, particularly if they went hardcore like "LeMans 24" did and made some options for timing adjustments*. I dont know about Rally America, it seems like at that point you may just want to make a generic rally game and save money. I dont need a licensed events or drivers as long as I have licensed cars...

I think most rally fans would understand we are a niche, but there is a big difference between a pure rally game and a dirt racing setup. Currently most games downplay the penalty you get for contact, whether by a lack of damage, penalties or stupid AI. This lack of penalty makes a game like DiRT 2 easier because instead of driving smart I just have to drive aggressive. I found DiRT 1 to have a real lack of challenge because of this and its the same reason that most Gran Turismo vets will tell you the real challenge in GT is not beating all the races, but getting gold on all the license tests.

*LeMans 24 had a simulation mode where you could run the entire 24-hour race in various timeframes ranging from a few minutes to the full 24-hours.

Spybreak8

09-04-2009, 04:49 PM

Hehe, funny review from CVG:http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=222602
Forget the original Colin McRae: Dirt ever happened. If you have it, snap it in half and whisk it out the window at your neighbour's cat. Dirt 2 is the game the first one should have been - a petrol-fuelled orgy of angry cars, weighty powerslides and lush, detail-filled mud porn.

The original Dirt was a solid game with plenty of cars, events and some pretty nice visuals. For that, it was praised. But if, like this writer, you're a long-time Colin McRae fan, you'd have built up resentment for the game's arcadey approach to what used to be a very serious racing series. Cars lacked weight, you didn't respect speed or corners, and the handling just felt wrong.

Forward two years and Codemasters has well and truly got its arse into gear. This is a proper rally game. You know that the moment you floor in into the first bend thinking you can make it round and the car just carries its speed, drifting sideways and slamming door-first into a wall. You've got to be skilled - slow that bad boy down and put it into corners properly.

Note:This is under the PS3 review section.

Another review, this one from Gamesradar(http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/dirt-2/review/colin-mcrae-dirt-2-super-review/a-20090902102931860058/g-2009022015428492015) and it sounds like GRID offroad which is awesome.

jdawgg76

09-05-2009, 10:15 AM

I was under the impression that Sony lost the rights to WRC in 2008 and that the reason why they have not repurchased from FIA is because, much like the F1 license, the price has gone up. I think this may be why there has been no talk of a WRC title for PS3 title despite having the market in Europe. A decent Dakar game would be a nice change, particularly if they went hardcore like "LeMans 24" did and made some options for timing adjustments*. I dont know about Rally America, it seems like at that point you may just want to make a generic rally game and save money. I dont need a licensed events or drivers as long as I have licensed cars...

I think most rally fans would understand we are a niche, but there is a big difference between a pure rally game and a dirt racing setup. Currently most games downplay the penalty you get for contact, whether by a lack of damage, penalties or stupid AI. This lack of penalty makes a game like DiRT 2 easier because instead of driving smart I just have to drive aggressive. I found DiRT 1 to have a real lack of challenge because of this and its the same reason that most Gran Turismo vets will tell you the real challenge in GT is not beating all the races, but getting gold on all the license tests.

*LeMans 24 had a simulation mode where you could run the entire 24-hour race in various timeframes ranging from a few minutes to the full 24-hours.Now that I think about it it's been a long time since I last looked up the rights. Can't remember where I found it before, but it was probably early 2007 when no new WRC game had been out for a little bit and Motorstorm was done. At that point they fully acknowledged that they were focused on Motorstorm 2 and there would be no more WRC games even though they would have the license for a couple of years or something. Anyway, funny you mention the GT series cause I found this referenced on another site as well as Wiki:
Polyphony Digital, who bought the rights to include official WRC cars and tracks in their upcoming simulation video game Gran Turismo 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_5). Therefore the series will no longer be released through independent games.I really wanted a full WRC game, but at least it'll be represented somewhat. PD's attention to detail is incredible so hopefully they'll do it right although I wasn't super impressed with the rally racing in GT3/4 although I was no longer impressed with the overall driving in those games at that point either. A source said they had NASCAR rights, too, but EA has those so I don't know.

That's exactly the way I've been thinking a Dakar game should be made. LeMans was awesome, especially the ability to play hardcore. I should go back and play that more. Gotta get out the DC.

As far as a RA game, I think the license would be pretty cheap as they're dying for exposure and legitimacy and it would give the game a real world connection which should be better than a generic feel. There are several different classes from street cars up that could give the game a good structure and just do the extreme feel for the competition at the xgames. That small dose should be ok. Maybe include some non-RA stuff like hill climb races like Pike's Peak, etc.

I always wanted the WRC games to expand and include a JWRC circuit, too, as it would have provided more depth and cars and a progressable career mode.

Amen on the gold for license tests. I rarely got the rewards for those as there would usually be one test in each group that i could not quite get.

naiku

09-05-2009, 01:59 PM

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-dirt-2/55521

i am totally excited for this game. I never got my hands on dirt but the demo was amazing. this game is gonna be awesome.

Tha Xecutioner

09-09-2009, 11:03 PM

Has anyone here grabbed the game?

For me, personally, it's one of the best racers I've played in a while. The presentation is ridiculously good, the graphics are insane, and the new additions to the game (friendships with other drivers, team events, customizing the cars, the sick online system they have set up, and the new modes they laid out) really put DiRT 2 in the top tier of games in the racing genre. I think it's the perfect fusion of GRID and DiRT 1, and I couldn't be happier with how it turned out.

whywakeup

09-09-2009, 11:20 PM

LinkinPrime

09-09-2009, 11:20 PM

I tried the demo last night, I was really impressed by the graphics and the way the cars handle but i just suck at the game. I'm definitely going to have to play some more to see if I get better.

Spybreak8

09-10-2009, 01:20 AM

Got my shipping confirmation today, should be soon with Newegg and all. Yea Grid+ Dirt is what Gamesradar said and I can't wait. The only negatives I heard are the menus (virtual way of) and floaty physics. I can't say that upsets me very much lol.

brighenne

09-10-2009, 04:01 AM

I tried the demo last night, I was really impressed by the graphics and the way the cars handle but i just suck at the game. I'm definitely going to have to play some more to see if I get better.

That's what happened to me, but I was having such a good time I practiced the demo tracks a few times. I got way, way better in a short amount of time and ended up picking it up today.

FrankySox

09-10-2009, 07:19 AM

whywakeup

09-11-2009, 09:08 PM

Picked mine up today , sooo sleepy .....

Spybreak8

09-11-2009, 09:45 PM

Auugh, my tracking info says its in Syracuse, its close, hopefully I'll have it tomorrow. I can't wait to play and reading xbox forums it looks like they did online right with a no collisions option.

notwen

09-12-2009, 12:25 AM

Amazon is taking forever to get my copy shipped. Anyone have any luck at picking up a game at a B&M location and returning their Amazon copy once it arrives? Really itching to play this game. =]

VipFREAK

09-12-2009, 01:45 AM

I saw it at Fry's for $49.99 although it still wasn't enough for me to want to get it.

destinywaste

09-13-2009, 02:06 AM

Amazon is taking forever to get my copy shipped. Anyone have any luck at picking up a game at a B&M location and returning their Amazon copy once it arrives? Really itching to play this game. =]

I was gonna do that with Batman. Unfortunately, Amazon had a different UPC sticker underneath the plastic packaging. Ended up having two copies of Arkham Asylum. Luckily, the game was hot and I sold it to someone I knew for full retail price.

Mojimbo

09-14-2009, 02:46 AM

Tha Xecutioner

09-14-2009, 10:21 AM

Does the game scale your opponents with whatever car you're driving? I just went through my first 10 races in one sitting and by the end it was getting harder to keep up, especially in that one race type where you have to own/control the different segments of the track. I was curious if that was because I was still using the default starter car.
I haven't seen or heard of any feature like that, but I wouldn't be too surprised. I do know that for certain types of races, there are certain racers who will give you a run for your money every time. It depends on the person's strengths for each race type (I think you can view each driver's strengths somewhere in the menu).

Dynasty1756

09-14-2009, 04:17 PM

I have a question I wanted to ask everybody who owns Dirt 2 and played it. Are you having any problems with the game like Stats and Achievement sticker/post it's always being thrown down and taking forever to load? Its like the game is stuck there... It happened to me 4 times over the past week and it got annoying because i had to always quit to the dashboard and reload the game.

Same goes with downloading ghost and racing against them. I always keep getting that download error message and DIRTNET offline?

Spybreak8

09-14-2009, 05:08 PM

Finally, the game has arrived and I'm installing it to the hard drive, expecting to play many hours of this lol. I can't believe I'm reading the manual.

Awesome, to me this game has a bit of DiRT (obv), GRID, and NFS:Pro Street.

Mojimbo

09-14-2009, 07:10 PM

Same goes with downloading ghost and racing against them. I always keep getting that download error message and DIRTNET offline?I think DirtNet was causing infinite load times so they had to take it offline until they find out what the problem is.

Spybreak8

09-15-2009, 05:31 AM

Lol, gotta say racing with your avatar dangling from your rear view mirror is hilarious and awesome at the same time.

LinkinPrime

09-17-2009, 05:09 PM

Finally got to put some good time into this game, and I gotta say, I'm really enjoying it. Easily one of the best racer's I've played on the X360 to date.

notwen

09-20-2009, 12:06 AM

Although I wish they woulda steered clear of the X-Games theme, it's still a great game and a solid sequel to it's predecessor. Will be picking up GRID here sooner or later and giving it a test drive once I finish up DiRT 2. =]

Spybreak8

09-20-2009, 04:40 AM

I think its funny that Ken Block wants to do me, "Hey lets hang out after the race!" Dude, worry about how you're driving in the race first lol.

jdawgg76

09-20-2009, 12:39 PM

THIS GAME ROCKS!!!! I just got done playing a VERY long session, and only stopped because I was worried my 360 was going to cook the disc. I played about half online and half offline. The offline career tour mode is very hard to stop playing. It seems like they pick the perfect time to throw new events at you. I've had no problems with lag online as well.

If anyone is interested in getting some Live matches in Pro Tour going definitely add me as a friend.

Did I mention this game is awesome and the achievements are definitely easy as well.Look for a FR for JDawgg77 for some Pro Tour!

Does the game scale your opponents with whatever car you're driving? I just went through my first 10 races in one sitting and by the end it was getting harder to keep up, especially in that one race type where you have to own/control the different segments of the track. I was curious if that was because I was still using the default starter car.The cars are all reasonably similar since there is not much tuning involved and because of the fact that you have to upgrade/downgrade your car to run races on different levels (ie rookie, pro, all-star) I think that balances the cars out. I think it's rubberband AI which progressively gets tighter.
I haven't seen or heard of any feature like that, but I wouldn't be too surprised. I do know that for certain types of races, there are certain racers who will give you a run for your money every time. It depends on the person's strengths for each race type (I think you can view each driver's strengths somewhere in the menu).If you go to My Stuff it lists their strengths in the relationships list.
Although I wish they woulda steered clear of the X-Games theme, it's still a great game and a solid sequel to it's predecessor. Will be picking up GRID here sooner or later and giving it a test drive once I finish up DiRT 2. =]I barely checked out Grid when I picked it up cheap. It's moving to the front of the backlog now.

I love this game! The whole Xgames theme isn't really bothering me. I guess I really limit my exposure to xtreme sports so it's not overloaded on me yet, plus if hooking the game up with a popular subculture is what it takes to get a rally game out, at least I get a rally game. It's a great offroad racing game and definite improvement over the great first game. I just really want a pure rally game now more than ever. Before Dirt 1 what was the last console rally game? Rallisport 2? Richard Burns Rally on xbox? I like DiRT2, but I wish Codemasters would make a real rally game whether it's CMR or WRC depending on GT5's licensing deal AND continue the dirt series.

My biggest complaints on Dirt2 mostly are the lack of tweaking options for car setup, no adjustment for steering sensitivity which is a little too twitchy and when racing online I saw NO options for tweaking your setup and I always move the brakes one notch rear and the another option looser to compensate for the steering. Did not do well online. Guess I'll have to make myself adjust to the steering to play online. Ghost cars are a little too visible, too, as a few times a rolling crash obstructed my view of a turn and caused me to wreck as well.

Spybreak8

09-20-2009, 05:08 PM

My biggest complaints on Dirt2 mostly are the lack of tweaking options for car setup, no adjustment for steering sensitivity which is a little too twitchy and when racing online I saw NO options for tweaking your setup and I always move the brakes one notch rear and the another option looser to compensate for the steering. Did not do well online. Guess I'll have to make myself adjust to the steering to play online. Ghost cars are a little too visible, too, as a few times a rolling crash obstructed my view of a turn and caused me to wreck as well.

You will not be able to adjust settings unless that option is enabled by the host I believe. Yea I played online and the camera was locked within the vehicle and we had to rally, man was that tough lol.

jdawgg76

09-20-2009, 07:36 PM

That's better then.

Spybreak8

09-21-2009, 01:37 AM

I'm really enjoying the vehicle setup right now, didn't know the tracks before, haven't touched it before but it really gives you an advantage to stay tight on tarmac or loose on gravel and dirt. I'm guessing you can adjust strong or loose differential to adjust your overall twitchy steering. I usually have it in the middle or 1 over towards strong.

New Tournament is up, speed run on Battlesea Bridge, the London Rally Cross track. Old tournament is over and lol I got very low with 364 ft of longest drift compared to 3,277 ft. Man, doing better with the current tourne though as I'm in the Top 10% with 50.33 for my time. Its really cool that you automatically get added into the current tournament, its seamless to your gaming.

Edit: I tried playing the game with the wheel a bit shaky at first I'm actually racing better than if I used a controller. Unlike the first game, Dirt 2 works really well with the wheel and after going down in difficulty I went back to the difficulty I had before and was still winning.

Spybreak8

10-08-2009, 06:16 PM

New stat site is up, how the hell do people have 1,353 rolls haha. Congrats, you suck the MOST!

I've got 19 thank you very much.

http://stats.dirt2game.com

jdawgg76

10-11-2009, 03:39 AM

Cool site. Just saw that the Access All Areas Pack is available on PSN for $4.99, wonder if it's up on 360 and what it contains. Hopefully it's not just a way to unlock everything for $5. Codemasters is really lame for their pay us for cheat codes system they've had for awhile now.

I've kinda cooled off on this game as I've had no gaming time the last week and all the tracks in each country are too similar.

If anybody wants to compare stats or race add JDawgg77 on XBL!

Pure Apathy

10-11-2009, 04:19 AM

I just added you to my friends jdawgg.

jdawgg76

10-11-2009, 07:01 PM

I just added you to my friends jdawgg.We'll have to race! The DLC is available on PSN right now, but you're just buying all the race tracks or all the cars and liveries. Boo. I was hoping for some new tracks.

Spybreak8

10-12-2009, 08:22 PM

Added you as well.

Spybreak8

11-07-2009, 08:15 PM

From the Facebook page: Double Fame Point Weekend - This Weekend you can earn Double Fame Points in all Online Pro Tour events! So if you want to climb the fame point leaderboard or just increase your online rank head online this weekend 07/11 - 08/11 and get earning those extra points. we'll see you there...

Lol the date threw me off, its backwards since UK.

jdawgg76

11-15-2009, 12:33 AM

New stat site is up, how the hell do people have 1,353 rolls haha. Congrats, you suck the MOST!

I've got 19 thank you very much.

http://stats.dirt2game.com
That's alot of rolls. I gotta admit I used the crap out of the rewind feature at first while getting used to the controls and then to get the perfect run with no slips only to realize that it negated that time getting posted.
Added you as well.We'll have to race. I've been playing Uncharted 2, but I'm pretty done with it although I'll play some mp occasionally. Of course, Gears2 is having 3x exp until monday and I'm halfway through MW2, so I may not get back to Dirt2 until later this week. If I'm online anybody feel free to invite me to a race as I could use a break every now and then. I think I'm only 65% thru the SP on dirt. It just feels like every track for a discipline in a country has the same parts in it just mixed around a little bit and I haven't done a lot of mp yet.
From the Facebook page:

Lol the date threw me off, its backwards since UK.Bummer, I saw this the last day of this event and I was right at the end of UC2 and HAD to finish that first.

Spybreak8

11-16-2009, 07:43 PM

Hehe, yeah I decided to check out my stats again and Total Miles Driven - 119447120 Miles, holy crap! Also I love the Shibuya track, prob because of my previous GRID passion lol.

Edit: LOL, My bad, that's total Miles Globally, mine is 1576.33 Miles and I too love the Shibuya Track.

jdawgg76

02-28-2010, 12:44 PM

Boy this game died off. It just couldn't hold my attention after awhile. Now that I got my e74ed xbox back (well, a brand new console thanks to MS), I'm going to mix Dirt 2 back in with finishing Ghostbusters and Borderlands and fiishing the online parts of the soon to be defunct LOTR:C and Def Jam Icon. Hit me up if you want to race and I'll drive.

2 pieces of big news for the rally fans:
WRC coverage has started again on HD Theater, now with four half hour shows. One preview show and a show for each day of the race. Sweet, I've missed this format.

Also, a new WRC game is planned for release this fall on all consoles. I'm excited, but nervous as it's Black Bean doing the game.

VipFREAK

02-28-2010, 03:41 PM

Spybreak8

02-28-2010, 05:05 PM

Well I love Grid and Dirt, Dirt 2. I played the crap out of Dirt 2, I've gone back and started over playing GRID again. Yeah These games just don't keep your interest unless you're continually gaining xp, money and unlocking new events. Still need the online lvl 30 achievement and well been playing Bioshock, Mass Effect 2, and Borderlands instead.

jdawgg76

03-16-2010, 01:48 AM

I finally got it and it's ok I guess but I feel like I'm playing it just to play it since I got it not because I enjoy it.

I think Codemasters really needs to cut this shit out when it comes to being creative hiding the "menu". If I want to feel like I'm in a virtual world I'll watch Tron or god forbid go play The Sims.

I'm re buying GRiD too and I don't remember being fond of it's menus too.What would you rather see? Loading screens between typical menus? To me it's different, but nothing special.

Well I love Grid and Dirt, Dirt 2. I played the crap out of Dirt 2, I've gone back and started over playing GRID again. Yeah These games just don't keep your interest unless you're continually gaining xp, money and unlocking new events. Still need the online lvl 30 achievement and well been playing Bioshock, Mass Effect 2, and Borderlands instead.Wow, you did play the crap out of Dirt 2. I see you're in the top 600 in Career XP. How much extra did you do after beating the Career mode to build Xp or did not that many people finish the game? Amazingly, the top career XP holder has 20 mil or so. I'm at 1 mil XP with about 56% of career done. I've gotten back into playing this when I don't have time for a level of Ghostbusters.

Rally Mexico coverage starts Thursday night on HDTheater.

VipFREAK

03-16-2010, 01:54 AM

What would you rather see? Loading screens between typical menus? To me it's different, but nothing special.

I'd rather they K.I.S.S. and focus on the important shit like graphics, physics, or cars. I'd like to spend the LEAST amount of time as possible in load screens/menus and have it organized well enough that it's efficient to get around in...

jdawgg76

03-16-2010, 10:19 AM

I'd rather they K.I.S.S. and focus on the important shit like graphics, physics, or cars. I'd like to spend the LEAST amount of time as possible in load screens/menus and have it organized well enough that it's efficient to get around in...That's just it, it's taking the same amount of time to load thru the menus as a standard menu system, but you're not just looking at standard menus while it loads from one page to the next, instead the camera moves from one location to the next.

And the car modeling, damage modeling and graphics are all top notch. They seem to like the physics, but I don't like the arcade feel at all. I'd much prefer the old CMR sim (well, more sim than now) feel. I'd also prefer a true rally game rather than the extreme sports vibe although the extreme sports stuff doesn't bother me that much.

Spybreak8

03-16-2010, 07:10 PM

Wow, you did play the crap out of Dirt 2. I see you're in the top 600 in Career XP. How much extra did you do after beating the Career mode to build Xp or did not that many people finish the game?

Lol yeah I beat the game getting first place in all tournaments (I think/not certain on that) and just decided to continue racing at random spots across the map afterwards building up my XP level. I bet most people didn't finish the game and went online (something that I can do but I always get called a cheater due to my satellite lag). It's kinda hard to want to continue when your XP level doesn't move as much but thankfully you still get the random invites from the pros to score a lot of points if you beat them/their time.

I'd rather they K.I.S.S. and focus on the important shit like graphics, physics, or cars. I'd like to spend the LEAST amount of time as possible in load screens/menus and have it organized well enough that it's efficient to get around in...

Most racing games have long loading times and I would look to Forza on this one. Forza 2 had long loading times, Forza 3 seems to be a lot less but I do have the game installed to my HDD. DiRT2's loading times are acceptable to me and like GRID there is always something too look at to pass the time.
Also I believe they did a great job on the physics, graphics and overall details of this game.
http://www.gamesradar.com/video/v-20090903115327309055