CAGcast #173: Life is a Type 6 Stool

[CheapyD]

3078[/img-l]Cheapy, Wombat, and Shipwreck talk Tokyo Game Show, review Halo 3: ODST, discuss PSP Go, and highlight a ton of other games. We've also got your questions and comments from the CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382) and Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/cheapyd) and oh so much more!

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Show Linkage/Notes (click the button below to expand):


Yes, the show notes are a little light this week...mostly just TGS experiences and game reviews for this show.

Intro: Bayonetta (http://bayonetta.jp/)

The Release List of 9/27 - 10/3 (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/60634)

Sunday Ad Video Game Deals (9/27/09 - 10/3/09) (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../?f=1507)

PSPgo UMD conversion not happening for 'legal reasons' (http://www.destructoid.com/pspgo-umd-conversion-not-happening-for-legal-reasons--149842.phtml)
NFS: Shift crashing on Xbox 360, tries to access PSN!? (http://www.destructoid.com/nfs-shift-crashing-on-xbox-360-tries-to-access-psn--150152.phtml)

CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382)

www.twitter.com/cheapyd (http://www.twitter.com/cheapyd)
www.twitter.com/wombat5277 (http://www.twitter.com/wombat5277)
www.twitter.com/shipwreck (http://www.twitter.com/shipwreck)
www.twitter.com/videogamedeals (http://www.twitter.com/videogamedeals)
www.twitter.com/ukgamedeals (http://www.twitter.com/ukgamedeals)

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(http://gameads.gamepressure.com/tv_game_commercial.asp?ID=4650)Outro: Dragon's Lair Intro (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7417264429258125842#)


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[DarkZion]

Downloading now, can't wait to listen.

[War Art]

Very nice, Downloading now! :D

[Dr Mario Kart]

Starting now.

Odious Tea. You can never unhear it.

[Davestation]

Good, you guys always come through when Howard Stern takes his weekly vacation every month, thanks.

[megaman1421]

Downloading, can't wait to hear it :D

[ShinAkumA21]

I love when shipwreck come on the show. He is very informative and hilarious. if he go to japan and covers TGS his coverage of it will be that of a young Walter Cronkite and here is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqmpDAhxGJA

[Loonknight]

Love the outro music.


Update: Also Shipwreck does a really good job with all the reviews, and I respect his dedication.

[muzras]

yay new cagzcastz. ^_^

[gonzoglitcho]

I'm glad Shipwreck adds editorial to the site. Plus on the show he keeps you guys on track.
Finally...he's from the midwest (we went to the same VGL), so that makes him 100x cooler.
I'm sorry to hear about your cat... :( I have 3 cats I've had for over a decade, and while they're still in good health, I'm dreading a few years from now.

[gunm]

lol, sad that I already know what a "type 6 stool" is before I even start listening to this cagcast. :p

[SuxoR]

I think Cheapy D isn't star struck in the slightest by video game designers because he doesn't take them very seriously, just something for fun but nothing serious...as you can tell by his TGS coverage ;]

And hearing Cheapy talk about Bayonetta kinda reminds me of him talking about LBP :P btw Shipwreck is a nice man

[McWeen]

I don't think anyone who cares about Tokyo Game Show coverage was exclusively following CheapyD's twitter.

Also love when Shipwreck is on.

[NegativeZero]

Hey Shipwreck
Can I haz your xtra Dissidia?
Please?

[KingBroly]

The 360 warranty is 3 years from the original console purchase, or 75 minutes or so bitching on the phone to Microsoft about fixing their faulty hardware for free.

Shipwreck talking about Nintendo games fills a gap in the podcast that has been gone since...Shipwreck was last on the podcast. HUZZAH!

[Nixtwix]

My stool is usually a type 3. Is that good or bad?

EDIT: Oh right, I almost forgot. Cheapy's mattressfucking experience was awefully funny.

[SecondTomorrow]

Great show.. laughed hysterically at Cheapy's little story =P.

Also, I love Shipwreck, he's a lovely redheaded man and his reviews are absolutely excellent.

[usickenme]

The best moment of every CAGcast is when Wombat drops a video game reference that CheapyD fails to get.

and The PSP go has a different memory card than the PSP.



Shipwreck has the best reviews on the planet.

[kahildude]

shipwreck is so awsome he made a shipwreck.
and his the only one in the internet that i actually listen to his reveiw.
and i love g.i joe too!

[Nebenator]

Downloading...

[amishpriest]

Shipwreck needs to be a regular cast member :).

[banodyne]

The 360 warranty is 3 years from the original console purchase, or 75 minutes or so bitching on the phone to Microsoft about fixing their faulty hardware for free.Why do people bother call the 1-800 number? Just use the online support on xbox.com. I'ts a hell of a lot faster and I've never had a problem. Even got the cardboard shipping coffin when other people were reporting that had ended.

[kube00]

alright time to be entertained along my 2 hr trip

[brak7]

Well I figure I might be deserving of the copy of Dissidia seeing as I was the inspiration for the title of this CAGcast as well as one of the more humorous pieces during the podcast. For you see, I am Coctopus on twitter. Had it not been for me, all of your lives would be emptier in that you would not be able to scientifically describe your poos. So by enriching your lives, specifically those of Cheapy, Wombat and Shipwreck, I should recieve FF: Dissidia.

[muzras]

Helloz, just finished listeningz. ^_^

Great show, lol I like how cheapy did what he did a TGS.

PS. Can I haz Dissidia too plzs-sorz :bouncy:

[Kosh]

I think you left out one target audience for the PSP Go. People that don't own a PSP and hate the UMD format. Yeah, it's probably a small group, but I'm in it. I owned a PSP about 2 years ago, but found I hated the UMD format. Also, wasn't that keen on the PSP itself, a little too wide and thick (that's what she said.) So, yeah, I'll be getting a PSP Go. I want to play some the games I've missed out on over the last couple of years.

Enjoyed the show, having three commentators was really good. Reminded me of Monday Night Football. Maybe last years crew, where Cheapy plays the part of Tony Kornheiser, bald, Jewish, and doesn't really pay attention to the subject at hand. Also, Shipwreck is no Jon Gruden. That's the only nice thing I could think of for the Ginger boy.

[E*Master]

Shipwreck is the Icing on the cake!!! Always informative and precise! That was awesome!!! Keep up the continued use of Poop and masturbation stories... they are HILARIOUS!! Can Wombat or Cheapy get Shipwreck to drop an F-Bomb on the show? We were unsuccessful on ours :(. Keep it up guys! U make my morning commute to work worth the long trip with 2 hour CAGcasts!

[Nebenator]

I don't own a PSP (some I'm not interested in Dissidia) but I still think Ship should come on the show more often ;)

[MIGGO]

I was upset at seeing how light the show is in the description, but then I saw that the length is close to two hours!

F' Yeah, Cheapy and Wombat! I hope Wombat rips apart Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2.

[Kfoster1979]

Good show guyslots of Viedeo Game talk, and bed humping.
Ship good job with the reviews and you helped keep the show on topic.

[HooHaa]

I've never felt sorry for a mattress before.

[dc_fortythree]

coors light + late night taco bell = type 7 stool :-)

i normally dont comment but man do i want dissidia. i think shipwreck should become a regular on the show. the chemistry between the 3 of them sounds friendlier/funnier than when its just cheapy and wombat.

[kaw]

Shipwreck is great for my bouts of insomnia.

[LiK]

Cheapy, i feel so bad for you. why didn't your wife offer to give you a handjob or a blowie? so sad...GREAT STORY tho! I loled. *hugs*

btw, Shipwreck is one dayam fine sessy red-head.

[jax2001]

Can't wait to listen to a new show. I just starting listening last week on a business trip. Listened to about 10 shows in 2 days while waiting or flying. Iphone is great for downloading anywhere.

Cheapy...try taking melatonin (3 mg) the next time you fly. It helps with jet lag.

[hpv]

You guys should figure out a way to get a third person on more often. Not all the time, wouldn't want to screw up the good thing you've got going, but gives the show a little extra energy from time-to-time.

Plus, I miss hearing Shipwreck's velvety voice when he isn't doing his show with Mrs. Ship.

[leftwing1018]

Awesome cagcast as always Cheapy and Wombat

And Shipwreck writes the best game reviews on the net

[Shady3011]

ODST is definitely a good game but to me it has the weakest campaign of the Halo franchise thus far. The action is disjointed by the hub world since each mission literally drops you into each fight. You might as well be the Chief in each one since you pretty much take on a horde on your own. The team AI is useless anyway so you'll find yourself alone more often than not. On top of that, there are some pretty poor design decision like not being able to use bubble shields even though the enemies do and no dual wielding which I honestly don't understand why it's missing.

The hub world itself would be better if you didn't need to have night vision on almost all the time. It really takes away from the scenery and reduces it to outlines which while neat destroys the purpose of building this solitary atmosphere. Worse is the fact that while sometimes the game encourages stealth it doesn't matter when some enemies can see you in the fucking dark. I mean really. What's the point if that's going to happen? On top of that, the forced fire fight sections in the hub world feel completely out of place since it pretty much gives the impression that the Covenant know you're wondering around but choose to attack you intermittently.

At $40, it is a solid buy which luckily is the case at a lot of online retailers. For $60, however, it isn't worth it. The story of the ODSTs is shallow at best and very predictable. However, the audio logs scattered about the city tell a great parallel story with some interesting characters thrown in. I actually recommened hunting them down since it is done quite well.

I hope Shipwreck does a full review of the game since he's a great reviewer. He always seems to find something he likes about a game instead of bashing it into the ground. Nice job, ship. ;)

[Kuromimi]

Hahaha I love your stories CheapyD!

[MetalGearDraco]

Great show guys. And I love Shipwreck's lovely red hair.

[Jackhole85]

I tend to get a lot of type 3 and 4 stools.
I like Shipwrecks hair.

[Treythalomew]

The mattress sex story had me in laughing for awhile. Also I don't know who's been dissing Shipwreck because he's awesome on the podcasts. I like hearing him *shoot the shit* and not just about reviews of shitty games. He adds a nice dynamic that is sometimes lost between Cheapy and Wombat.

[Himeh]

Great show as always! Always nice to have Shipwreck on there as well, he adds a lot to the show.

[SSPrelude]

Shipwreck was on FIRE!! I am glad he came on the show for this week. He should come on the show more often. I like to get a three person perspective.

[nickerous]

Great show, guys! Don't know what type it is, but I always enjoy the "No mess" stools. Like opening a present, except this present is nothing on the paper!

I think Shipwreck brings a lot to the show and I hope to listen to more Cagforeplay real soon! Shipwreck is awesome! I also know what it's like putting down a cat you've had forever. Mine had to be put down when I was in college. We had the cat 20 years. Ever since I was in preschool. :(

[Smallville123]

Great show guys. Shipwreck is a beautiful man! lulz

[sheppyboy2000]

I do want to say seeing Shipwreck return in ANY capacity is a good thing as I too miss his usual podcast. Especially considering I spend 40 hours a week in a cubicle and as such listen to a LOT of podcasts. Missing out on that one in particular makes my usual roundup feel a little less full. Oh well, cannot drag the feedback down too much.

I did want to address something and I know I'm probably going to get a third quote on the cast making me sound like a douche but whatever, I want to address the PSP Go. You see, I'm the kind of guy the system was targeted at. But there IS a problem, of course. Consider for a moment the following picture.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c237/sheppyboy2000/pspcollection.jpg
That was from around a year ago and I have since added about 10-15 games to that selection, including the imported Macross 7 game. You see, despite this massive collection of UMD games, I WAS looking forward to PSP Go for many reasons. I long ago accepted that my collection is just not going to tranfers to Go. I mean LOOK at it. Will 60-70 games even FIT on a 16GB PSP Go? Especially when you add the additional content like all the free DLC for Wipeout Pure, Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce, and all my Traxxpad save files? Doubtful.

But truth be told, I would gladly take the opportunity to have a dedicated PSP machine for the various pieces of PSN content. I've learned something of myself and it's that I hate lugging around DS carts and UMDs. I try to stick to 2-3 games when I travel. But already I have several games I bought on PSN forcing me to look into an 8GB MS Pro Duo here pretty soon. I wasn't looking at Go as a replacement for my PSP mainly because my collection is too vast and regionally diverse (I have nearly 20 import games... SCEA is very unlikely to give me credit on Play-asia purchases through your website), I was looking at it as a companion machine. Someplace to download Unbound Saga, Thexter Neo, Pixeljunk Monsters, Crash Bandicoot, and Final Fantasy VII. In other words, I'm the idiot Sony is targeting. I love my PSP and keep fighting the temptation for a Go.

And because I love my PSP, there is another issue people keep forgetting when bashing the Digital Distribution initiative of PSP. Have you been to a PSP section in a store lately? Pardon my french but it's fucking depressing. Meijers has two rows of games, nine rows of Daddy Day Care and Anaconda. Gamestop has officially reduced their PSP selection to smaller than Gamecubes area (and only 25% of that is not used). Best Buy and Walmart have the most robust selections and even that focuses on Greatest Hits. I wanted Steambot Chronicles Day 1, no store in town, a college town where gaming is big, stocked this Atlus RPG. NONE. By the time I gave up the chase seven days later, Amazon was on backstock for the game and I had to wait. For a PSP enthusiast, that's where we are at. Reduced only to internet shopping because no stores support the platform in a respectable way. So yes, when you buy Digitally, you lose trade-in value... but c'mon, it's a PSP game. I'm sure people are really upset over the $5 you can't get back when you're done with Dissidia. And that becomes a game feeding a store that refuses to stock NEW PSP games and laughs when you go in to preorder Soul Calibur (screw you, gamecrazy). I would prefer Sony switch to the digital method with PSN as opposed to the alternative, the very real threat of platform death outside of Japan.

So with that, why am I not buying the Go despite many reasons for the platform? Because SCEA seems hellbent on making PSP Go a horrible value proposition. Think of it this way, SCEE gives you GT PSP, and three other PSN games. With that, I'd be VERY interested in the $250 price tag. Without it, not buying until it drops. If SCEA was smart, every PSP Go would have $40 instore credit the first time they log into PSN. It would give people a chance to explore the variety of offerings. I know that would be enough to push me over. But for now, I'm giving SCEA six months to find out what they really want to do with PSP. Maybe if it's $200 in March, I'll snag one. In the meantime, I have to wait for an 8GB MS to arrive in the mail, it has an October 1st delivery date...

[wangman31888]

shipwreck is the coolest. honestly i'm a little jealous of him: he gets free games, lives in the chili capital, married to someone who loves games, and stars in a podcast.

also, shipwreck has a cool nickname

[Wazzaplinola]

Shiprecks fluffy strwaberry hair reminds me of a cucumber prancing with a pickle and that's a good thing

[option.iv]

Great show guys.

And shipwreck, you are so sexy. Don't tell your wife I said that.

Keep up those excellent and detailed reviews.

[lokizz]

which one of you needed to blow their nose i can hear your nose whistling through the whole damn show.shipwreck actually represented the funny on this one he had the best jokes. damn shame about your wife lookin at you dirty cheapy for jerkin the gerkin learn to masturbate without causing a bed quake or at least use your wifes hand to do it that way when she wakes up pretend you were asleep too and that youre offended that shed do that to you while you were asleep.

[Energy Penguin]

Great show guys. I always love when Shipwreck stops by. Nice TGS stories Cheapy. Wombat's line of the show...The Halo-ening.

[chakan]

Shipwreck is the only part of the podcast that I'd let my mom listen to.

[pelf21]

good show

I like shipwreck cause he plays games.....

[Z_meista]

Nice dream Cheapy! :rofl:
Always appreciate your reviews, shipwreck!

[Dr Mario Kart]

Dreams come true on twitter...unless your dream is to be considered as legitimate media coverage ;)

The point of the PSPGo is to sell PS3's by making it look like a better value :-$

Shipwreck does the best reviews on CAG, by a wide margin. We needs more.

[NateWhs152]

Sorry to hear about your cat ship. We love you here on CAG and can't wait to hear another cagfourplay

[TheHiei]

RIP to Ship's cat, sad news indeed.

Cheapy's mattress story also made me lose it, everyone within a ten foot vicinity was wondering what the hell was wrong with me here at home, great stuff.

Also, Shipwreck is awesome, he's such a cool down-to-earth video gamer that isn't jaded or effected by popular consensus. He likes what he likes, and he sticks by it.

[iPhone]

Shipwreck is a real American hero.

[io]

Ship - Sorry to hear about your cat. How old was he exactly? I've got a brother/sister pair that are 15 now - both hanging in there but I think they both have kidney problems. Any tips from Mrs. Ship for that sort of thing?

Anyway, I had never heard the deal with Demon's Souls about it being even harder now. All I read said that it was pretty damn hard to begin with. I have the deluxe version preordered from Amazon and now I'm not so sure I even want it. I just don't have the time to retry levels dozens of times. But if it is really that bad, maybe we can count on a patch.

And Wombat - what forum are you reading where people are pushing the Wii controls for first person shooters!? CAG is pretty much anti-Wii on down the line (Ship being a bright exception in that he actually gives it a chance ;)). (I did happen to think the controls for Metroid Prime 3 were awesome, but then I don't really enjoy playing most FPS games).

I do agree with your Scribblenauts critique though as I ran into the same problem in my very brief time playing it while on my trip last week. However, the game is still pretty damn unique and awesome. And the hat looks good on my 22 month old (see my avatar).

[Curufinwe]

Sad news about Shipwreck's cat.

My mother still has the cat we found outside our house as a lost kitten back around the time when OJ Simpson was arrested (for murder), so she's over 15 years old now.

[liquidcross]

Great show, fellas. Cheapy...you're a sick, sick man. Better be careful, or your wife will start getting jealous of your bed!

Shipwreck is every real man's hero.

[Mindboggle]

The bristol stool chart !! LMAO.... I live in bristol and that stupid chart is everywhere, especially in hospitals...

Great show as always !

[Walt Jay]

Nice show guys, but PLEASE no more Cagbag questions asking for Cheapy's approval on a planned purchase, specifically those involving the PS3 or 360. It amazes me how people need other people's approvals to justify their purchases.

P.S. Shipwreck is a fine reviewer and a credit to society.

[bigl523]

The show needed more pictures of food.

Shipwreck has giant muscles (so I'm told).

[cag1000]

I can feel for Shipwreck's loss. I lost my cat a year or so ago and it is still hard.

Shipwreck is a good guy, even having never met him I can tell he is a decent guy, and a very strong reviewer.

[JHawkZero]

Shipwreck's like a nice type 5 stool, soft and easy going! It really is good to hear from shipwreck. If not for the deluge of reviews I would have thought he died in a terrible housefire or something for the lack of Foreplay's.

Keep up the good (?) work (?) fellas...

[Tengaport]

This is totally just my opinion here, but I feel as if the 'coolness' factor is completely gone from the PSP. When the PSP first came out and I was eager to get my hands on one I answered questions about the system from many non-gamers ranging from my co-workers all the way to my mom & sister-in-law. The PSP had a 'WOW' factor, and they were interested in it as a entertainment devices (music, movies and maybe a game or two).

Fast forward to today and all those people who were asking me about the PSP found exactly what they wanted in either a iPhone or iTouch. The PSPgo will never be able to compete with those devices in that crowd.

On the flipside, by nixing the UMD drive and providing nothing in the way of a loyalty program Sony has shot itself in the foot when it comes to PSP supporters. I am a huge fan of the PSP, I've had mine since launch - but what does the PSPgo have to offer me? The inability to play my library of PSP games? Thanks Sony, but I'm not quite sure if I'm willing to pay $250 for that.

Not to mention as a CAG, I don't think I want to be in a position where I can only consume digital content on my device ESPECIALLY when it comes to the uncertain quality of PSP games. I'm not opposed to downloading games from the PSN store, I have several already on my PSP, I'm just not ready for that to be my only option. Perhaps if Sony adjusted the prices for these downloads, but they have clearly stated they are not going to be doing.

If Sony included free Shipwreck wallpapers on the PSPgo then none of this would matter and it would be a HUGE success. How glorious a sight that would be... ahhh, dare to dream...

[bluu]

Love the Cagcast with all three of you,personally I like the long form cagcast.and chili .....Iloves me some 'natti style chili.

R.I.P. Remo ...................cats rule !

[BlueSwim]

As someone who also had to put down his childhood cat(Goldie) earlier this year, I wanted to pass along my condolences to Shipwreck.

[calmdude95]

Love the Show, Shipwreck is so awesome

[sunfiredragon]

Cheapy really needs to get over this poop fetish...it's getting creepy.

Also, shipwreck really should be on the CAGcast more often, its good to have a less poopy, less jewey (is that even a word, either way it's probably not kosher...zing!) perspective.

[SideburnMan]

Shipwreck is the Greatest!
And Wombat is awesome Too!
<3's for CheapyD!

[Hbomb5]

Shipwreck is awesome. He adds a lot to the Cheapy/Wombat dynamic (or the Hbomb/E*Master dynamic- come back to CBG anytime), plus he's the only one of CAG's "Big Three" that gives us the time of day.

It's a shame Foreplay's in hiatus. I hope the Ships can get their schedules in sync soon.

[FriskyTanuki]

I've beaten NFS Shift and never experienced the bug that supposedly tries to connect to PSN, so unless somebody can post instructions on how to recreate, it's probably fake. I've experienced one bug, which was fairly major since it gave points in a series to the wrong drivers to make the difficulty higher than it should've been. That's all and I could get around it by playing on easy for that series and switching back for the final race.

I've never gotten the appeal of Bayonetta, which may be because Devil May Cry doesn't really interest me at all. Releasing it over here at around the same time frame as God of War 3 and Dante's Inferno, which I'm quite a bit more interested in over Bayonetta.

MUA was just a boring, tedious mess, so I'm skipping the sequel unless I can get it for $10 or so.

By first level of the Demon's Souls review build, do you mean the tutorial level, Shipwreck? Or do you mean the first world you can access from the hub world? I got through most of the first level from the hub world and just found it boring since there didn't seem to be any interesting reasons to keep going since enemies only drop herbs and little loot, if any.

Shipwreck needs to take a page out of Bobby Kotick's playbook and figure out how to exploit CAG Foreplay for massive profit.

Just make Shipwreck the third member of the CAGcast and merge CAG Foreplay into the show since you guys do new releases anyway and he can add to the games discussion, as well. It's win-win for everyone. (+1 contest entry)

[Gamer SDP]

after the download finished and I saw this podcast was a bit under 2 hours...I was expecting another boring show that just kept on going on and on (and most of it was!)


Cheapy, your TGS stories weren't that bad and actually interesting. I would have walked away quickly if I saw some fucker who tried to sue me. You think anyone who was at TGS (that also listens) knows about your doody duties (what types were they anyway ;)?)

For some reason Wombat seemed to be the one leftout of the conversions (as Shipwreck is usually the one when there's a threesome). Any article about the Samsung LCD issue? I have a Samsung LCD but a different model (was it a specific line or something?).
Oh and nice side comments as always :applause:.

It was good to hear Shipwreck in most of the conversations this time. I'm curious though, do you usually get niche or low name games in for review? I was looking for an ODST review up.
The Disgaea games are very cruel if you fail a mission/episode from what I recall. Demon's Soul is the first [Japanese developed] game I've heard where the difficulty is upped in a foreign version. I'm looking to try the game if I ever pick up a PS3. Also I think there has been reverse situations where game difficulty has been lowered (or made so that the player has more powerups etc) such as in the Fire Emblem series (may only be gba).
Everyone has to love Shipwreck even if he's one of the nerdiest guys around :D.

oh and Cheapy's last story about his sex dream had me loling again. It's great whenever his asinine stories make me laugh. Ship and Wombat laughing in the background also add to it. Just a quick question Cheapy, what do you parents think of these types of stories (any Cheapy moment for that matter) when they listen to the shows?


I really would not mind receiving a umd psp-go version of Dissidia 8-)

[dmunkee]

Agree 100% with the thoughts regarding the PSPgo. I was really excited with the announcement right until they dropped that $250 price tag on everyone. I see a possible price drop/sale for the holidays coming, but even then it makes it harder to buy when you see the cheaper PSP-3000 right next to it.

Anyway, awesome show this week guys. Cheapy and Wombat seemed a bit more energetic this week. Great to hear Shipwreck again, and that he hasn't been burnt out on gaming after churning out so many reviews for CAG. $This is definitely the show that proved Ship should be a permanent 3rd seat. That, and he's the only one that plays/knows about the weird games that Cheapy and Wombat don't.

[acehunter1337]

dont we love that parymantuse sex well shipwreck ceep on doing those great reviews!!!! very cool show

[shipwreck]

By first level of the Demon's Souls review build, do you mean the tutorial level, Shipwreck? Or do you mean the first world you can access from the hub world? I got through most of the first level from the hub world and just found it boring since there didn't seem to be any interesting reasons to keep going since enemies only drop herbs and little loot, if any.

Yes, I mean the level after the tutorial level. I was actually really looking forward to the game after what I played at E3, but I'm just not good enough to play it.

[sheppyboy2000]

Demon's Soul is the first [Japanese developed] game I've heard where the difficulty is upped in a foreign version. I'm looking to try the game if I ever pick up a PS3. Also I think there has been reverse situations where game difficulty has been lowered (or made so that the player has more powerups etc) such as in the Fire Emblem series (may only be gba).

Final Fantasy VII was the first I heard about. Ruby and Emerald Weapon were NA exclusive until FFVII International. Urban myth is that those bosses were put in to test the "smack talk" of US gamers in how good they were. Especially after OUR version of FFIV (II) was largely criticized since we got an "easy" or "properly balanced" version in the states.

Devil May Cry 3 also had our Normal being Japan's Hard, so on and so forth. It's not as uncommon as you think. Working Designs was positively infamous for this and a couple games were nearly impossible to beat because of it. Course Working Designs was also infamous for ruining translations with pop culture references.... why is a 14th century village quoting Austin Powers again?

[Darkpaul]

Cheapy, this is in regards to the boycotting comment about Modern Warfare 2: No matter what stupid moron (who in all actuality has little to do with the development) is in charge of Activision, if a game is GOOD people will BUY it. If Modern Warfare 2 ends up sucking more ass than a New York whore then it really doesn't matter if Bobby Kotick decides he's not charging enough for his games, people won't buy it.

On the same note, if Kotick decides to come out tomorrow and say, "Anyone who buys Modern Warfare 2 is a shit stain on the bottom of my heel", people will still buy it because it's not about him. It's about the franchise that we've spent so much time in to just walk away completely from because of a moron who we've only ever read about on the internet.

So whenever a boycott is mentioned it seems kind of silly to say we're not buying a game solely for the fact that the developer's bosses are complete morons (after all how many of us have that my-boss-is-an-idiot problem).

[Richlough]

3 man show = worth waiting for .

Now you guys can have a new excuse for delaying the shows . ;)

I have a broken 60 GB PS3 and have no money to get it fixed' but I was going to send it to a 3rd party repair service .
I have no interest in getting someone else's 60 GB unit in it's place .
So, I have to wait and miss Uncharted 2 [for now] .

Maybe I should tweet about it .
I need more followers for anyone to give a shit though .

Maybe all of the CAGs should follow each other so we can have a Twitter union to be heard better .

It worked for Wombat's TV problem, and I think it's a good idea if you guys can put the word out on the show .

Also maybe add the twitter names to people profiles on the site too !

Thanks Cheapy .

Also twitter = Richlough [let's get this thing started]

[tyhana]

Yeah, Ship's right, Foreplay is no fun without Mrs. Ship. Hopefully schedules will work out soon.

How come I'm always in public when the hilarious stories start? Do you realize how hard it is to hold back the laughter? Even when I crack a smile there's always someone looking right at me.

BTW, Ship has to be the most organized person ever... I mean, have you seen that list of games? I bet everything is labeled in the basement, isn't it? And always well informed about what games are coming out. Even without a Foreplay to work on Ship'll be able to tell us about the new games.

[Thongsy]

Damn, Shipwreck not being able to pass the first level of Demon Souls has me worry now. I don't mind a difficult game, but six hours and no progress, this isn't FFXI, there is no need for that much wasted time.

My friend and I are actually going to boycott Activision. I know our two person boycott won't mean much in the grand scheme of things but it's just how I feel. I was a bit interested in CoD6 but after all those things he has said and rehashes they're releasing, it seems like I won't miss much. I have no need for Tony Hawk or DJ Hero, and I'm a bit sick of fps now. So it's kind of a boycott and kind of a lack of interest in the product.

[trip1eX]

Cheapie's voice broke a few times as Wombat was pounding on him for his lack of work and lack of memory.

Cheapie seems lonelier than ever. I think the Japan thing is getting to him. It's a slow slow descent into insanity.

He continues to pray to Stern at least 10 times during the show. His bits are his prayers.

Ship continues towards his gaming goal - more than 1 billion served.

Wombat seemed a bit so-so this session except for getting on Cheapie's ass and talking about Scribnauts. (btw, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 was horribly generic as well. The only folks looking past that were, well, folks like Wombat - big comic nerds who see superheroes instead of dollar signs.)

The big W also had some new jealousy issues with Ship cutting into his time and old issues like Cheapie having a big old internet golden goose all to himself. So close yet so far. Must be painful.

Cheapie is a 360 fanboy. He really perks up when he gets to the 360 section. Or does that just coincide with him getting some dick on bed action during the show. I guess during the show it would be dick on bottom of desk action. Maybe Grandma O was giving him a backrub.

Ship is the Opie or Beaver of the videogame podcasting world. Maybe he can bring in the Christian and full-time Mom demographic by making a few more appearances. Wait, Stool and Dick on Bed talk make that difficult. Well there's always Oprah.

btw, whether deliberate or not it seems like a good thing to get the site more into game reviews as a side business as long as it doesn't distract from the main mission at hand.

[Falion]

Great show this week. Loved the bed humping story - Eric the Midget would be proud, Cheapy. ;)

Sorry to hear about your cat, Shipwreck! My wife and I just had to put our oldest cat to sleep recently as well. Such a hard thing...

[waterman460000]

shipwreck, ur voice makes me pitch a tent ;)

[banodyne]

Cheapy, I'd heard Jimmie Mac got eliminated from Hell's Kitchen. Since I don't have the patience to watch FOX reality shows I was hoping you could give us a recap of what happened on the next CAGcast.

[shigster]

Loved the CAGcast, it is always nice to have Shipwreck on the CAGcast to mix things up. CheapyD's bed humping story was awesome, it's one of the reasons I listen to the CAGcast every chance I get! :) Keep the greatness coming CheapyD, Wombat and Shipwreck!

Sorry to hear about your cat Shipwreck, any plans on getting a new bundle of joy to fill the gap?

Shipwreck keep up all the fantastic work with all the game reviews, you're a awesome game reviewer! Also, I'm lookin' forward to the next CAG Foreplay and more video reviews!

[Johnny2900]

Once again another podcast that was worth the wait! I just want to hear more from Shipwreck...When is thenext episode of CAG Foreplay coming?

[Vakir]

Shipwreck has shown me what the world feels like after a good game.

[bsesb2003]

Sorry to hear about Remo, Ship.

[gameboykid14]

I caught most of Cheapy D's TGS coverage on twitter and I'm happy to know where the best bathroom is, if I ever get to go.

I could not agree more with Wombat's comments on Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2. It really didn't feel like an Ultimate Alliance, like the first one.

Shipwreck ...... You also said stuff

[chainsawleon]

I'm so glad that the PSP Go has come out, so I can download more games for my launch unit. After 4 years, it's still good enough for me.

Shipwreck, I'm sorry about your cat. Having to put down pets sucks, especially when you've had them for so long.

[rustyrage]

I was laughing a lot during this CAGcast.. thanks and keep it up. I laughed a lot during Cheapy's sex with the bed story and the stanima part. And Shipwrek is an excellent CAG always getting those free games in. :)

[Imallvol7]

Shipwreck is such a pretty man.

[godofcookery]

I don't see any other news stories at all in relation to the difficulty being increased. I asked this question earlier in a different forum (NeoGAF) and it seems many people are under the impression that the game does not have gameplay changes, just translatic tweaks.

[Jazar]

Correct godofcookery there has been no changes to the American version of Demon's Souls aside from some small verbiage changes here and there.

[Fragonard]

I totally agree with Cheapy on the subject of Halo's story and gameplay. The single player of Halo is boring and the story makes little to no sense. Master Chief is a boring character with no personality to speak of. The only time I have ever enjoyed playing a Halo game was playing co-op, and that's only because pretty much anything is enjoyable when playing co-op.

Also, ODST is a total ripoff because it was originally going to be a download-able game on Xbox Live Market Place for $15-$20. Then they jack up the price and put on a disk because they know all the Halo fan boys will buy it without a second thought. Fuck you Microsoft.

[MiniB0ssBattle]

Shipwreak was wrong about Demon's Soul and making the game more difficult for the US audience. As far as I was told, Atlus made region specific servers, text and UI adjustments. Gameplay was unaffected.
Yes it is very difficult game but I am sure Shipwreak could beat this game if he gets over that 2nd boss hump. (Pick Royal Class!).

[shipwreck]

Yup, it appears I mispoke about the increase in gameplay difficulty. Sorry about the confusion. It's still a very difficult game. I know plenty of people are up to the challenge as I've seen many people online have played through the game, so if it's a game that interests you definitely give it a shot. Again, sorry for the misinformation.

[PhaperPlane]

I was impressed by Shipwreck's contribution to the CAGcast this week, and in fact, the CAgcast itself! I really enjoyed this episode and I think Shipwreck should make more appearances on the show. Keep up the great work! :D

[MiniB0ssBattle]

Shipwreck saying its challenging says something about the difficultly. Many developers are known to make changes in looks / gameplay based on regions. Thanks for addressing the confusion on Demon's Soul and having the integrity to not write a review on partial game experience. Keep up the reviews on the smaller titles!

[progman3]

:applause: Cheapy's TGS 09 coverage was top notch! I can see screenshots, interviews, & gameplay footage on a billion other sites. I loved getting updates from a regular guy checking out TGS.

:booty:It's official, Wombat's a minor celebrity on twitter!

:cry: Moment of silence for Shipwreck's loss.

[Jazar]

Yup, it appears I misspoke about the increase in gameplay difficulty. Sorry about the confusion. It's still a very difficult game. I know plenty of people are up to the challenge as I've seen many people online have played through the game, so if it's a game that interests you definitely give it a shot. Again, sorry for the misinformation.

What part exactly did you get stuck at? Demon's Souls is difficult, but it's not unfair. In the first level there are three shortcuts throughout the castle that you find which will lead back to the beginning so that if you die, you don't have to go through the entire level again. If you take the first world slowly, one creature at a time, it should be very doable. There's only one guy (red knight) who is really difficult and he is easily avoidable far off the path of where you need to go. In fact, he should be avoided until you level up more. All the other baddies can be handled with relative ease so long as you're paying attention - moving slowly with your guard up.

One more thing, the class that you start out with makes a big difference in how the difficulty will play out. Maybe for the E3 demo you started out with an easier class. The Royal is definitely the easiest to start out with because you get a magic regen ring that lets you stand back and cast spells at enemies from a safe distance. If you're having a big problem with combat perhaps the Royal would be a good start for you.

[gunstar808]

Enjoyed the show this week, it was nice getting so much actual video game feedback!

Definitely enjoyed having Shipwreck on as well. His game reviews always seem pretty spot on.

And is it just me, or is the Shipwreck figure from the GI JOE movie line, one of the only decent looking ones?

[ProtoEXE88]

Gotta agree with Wombat on Ultimate Alliance 2, I played only the first 2 levels and just felt bored as hell, the gameplay doesn't feel updated at all, it just dragged on those 2 levels... I'll get back to it at some point though.

And Shipwreck is hot as fuck, he should be on more often or I'll start going through withdrawals.

[godofcookery]

Yup, it appears I mispoke about the increase in gameplay difficulty. Sorry about the confusion. It's still a very difficult game. I know plenty of people are up to the challenge as I've seen many people online have played through the game, so if it's a game that interests you definitely give it a shot. Again, sorry for the misinformation.

thanks for addressing the misinformation! Either way, I played a bunch of the Asian release (Getting the american one as it was announced soon after my game was shipped) and yeah, its hard. I found the Royal Class to be pretty good to start with. Thanks for the integrity on not reviewing it because you werent able to play through a sizeable chunk of the game.

[terpkristin]

I felt like this week's show felt a bit more cohesive than previous week's shows. I enjoyed hearing Ship on the show (though was sorry to hear about his cat, that's always a big pile of suck).

Hope that the Foreplay comes back at some point...I know that everybody loves mrs. ship but maybe ships brother-in-law can be a fill-in when schedules get too hectic (if I remember right, he lives close to them and is also a CAG).

Keep more shows like this coming, guys!
/tk

[125125]

Wombat just listen to the costume part in MA2, Im thinking that Activision is going to have people pay for more costumes. Also is the game worth getting at full price. Otherwise nice show guys.

[chililili]

Shipwreck is the most awesome human being to ever live!

[JTHuffy]

I prefer shorter podcasts (an hour or less is best), but I think the show seems to flow a lot better with Shipwreck along with Wombat and Cheapy. Shipwreck's more intimate knowledge of the games themselves really helps the show.

[AleetPanda]

I know how most people feel about kojima, I personally credit him with my second venture into games. I get why he is treated like the rock star. Also I have said it before, Shipwreck is the greatest thing in Cincy and close second is Skyline Chili.

[Nathan_Sama]

Grah, I decided to pop in Marvel Ultimate Aliance 1 and from what wombat said about MUA 2, it sounds like I'd like MUA 2 more.

By the way, Shipwreck is awesomely awesome.

[DQT]

Yup, it appears I mispoke about the increase in gameplay difficulty. Sorry about the confusion. It's still a very difficult game. I know plenty of people are up to the challenge as I've seen many people online have played through the game, so if it's a game that interests you definitely give it a shot. Again, sorry for the misinformation.

Nothing to apologize for. Atlus games are HARD. I applaud people who like and can handle the challenge but I agree with you three in that if I get frustrated in a game, there are literally three more that can easily take it's place. I've embraced the fact that I'm weak.

Really liked this episode so far. Sounds like you guys all had a great time, and all three of you got in some pretty good zingers that had me cracking up.

I like Shipwreck because he's genuine and doesn't try too hard to be funny. I'll still think he's a nice guy even if I don't win Dissidia.

[megaman1421]

Great episode this week :D
Also, I think shipwreck is very entertaining and I think he should be on the cagcast more often.

[au7oma7ic]

great show. If I saw Hideo Kojima I would most likely wake up the next morning attempting sex with my bed.

Wombat- What's wrong with ribs and mashed potatoes? I find it to be a pretty common combo.

Also, I am assuming you guys have gotten your electronics, or other things, fixed via twitter because you are "power players" on CAG (and have followers). A company like panasonic may think if Wombat shits on our TV others will not buy it because his weight has some weight to it.

[Cao Cao]

Looks like shipwreck wasn't the only one:
http://www.destructoid.com/non-review-why-i-couldn-t-finish-demon-s-souls-151008.phtml

[Justme8800]

Nice show! Shipwreck brings a lot to the CAGcast, it's always more interesting when he's around, if not just for the fact that I identify with his gaming tastes more than Cheapy or Wombat.

And please don't "do anything" with the CAG Foreplay franchise! Aside from the occasional guest show, it wouldn't be right without both of the Shipwrecks, as there's a dynamic there that I don't think can be replaced. I'd rather have shorter Foreplays less often than lots of lengthy not-really-Foreplays without both hosts.

~Justme8800

PS, just to be clear, Ship rocks even more than Cheapy and Wombat, and that's saying something.

[goomba478]

I actually like Shipwreck on "third mic". He has a good down-to-earth quality and plays a lot of similar games that I do, so I can genuinely relate to him. Oh and that praying mantis story was humorous and disturbing simultaneously. Nicely played!

[Imallvol7]

Anyone else think its weird half of the responses are talking about if the show was good or not and tries to be the CAG Managerial Staff. Just enjoy the show, lol.

Anyway, good show. Entertaining. And that's good, because we have just about nothing in common when it comes to videogames, lol. Play Halo for the single player? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[strife18]

You know whats funny as hell? My wife just moved to Nebraska and we had never seen praying mantis' just hanging about. I thought it was really cool but my wife and mom were creeped right the hell out. We don't have them up here in the cold north.

Shipwreck, you....are....so....beautiful...tooo mee....can't you seeee...
hehe jk man. Your reviews are great, have a very pleasant day!