Hard to find games to be on the lookout for

[PhrozenFire]

I'm trying to assemble a pretty good comprehensive list of rare games so that I (and anyone else) can be on the lookout for rare games and the like. What are the rare games you know of? A rating of the rarity such as (rare, very rare, super rare) would be nice but not necessary by any means. Thanks a lot!! Also, if this would do better on another board let me know!

[jimbodan]

EDIT: Since the OP isn't updating, I figured I'd combine everything mentioned so far that I deemed to be EITHER rare OR expensive. If I'm not feeling too lazy I might make a new topic with everything either listed as rare (low print #'s) or just expensive, also I'd like to list prices next to everything, I might get to that later tonight.


PS2:
Grandia Xtreme
Marvel vs Capcom 2
Rez
Gitaroo Man
World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars 2002
Gallop Racer (2001-2004, since all prior releases appear to be rare, I'd imagine 2004 will be also)
R.A.D
Culdcept (Rare)


Gamecube:
Gauntlet: DL
NCAA Basketball 2K3
Original Phantasy Star online 1 and 2 (not plus)
Resident Evil 2 (not rare, just expensive)
Resident Evil 3 (not rare, just expensive)
Cubivore (Rare)

Xbox:
Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis
Marvel vs Capcome 2
Broken Sword - The Sleeping Dragon

GBA:
Car Battler Joe
Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis
Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance
Phantasy Star Collecton
Cima The Enemy
Sonic Pinball Party
Ninja Five-o



PS1:
Lunar SSS
Lunar Eternal Blue
Valkyrie Profile
Rhapsody: a musical adventure
Suikoden II
Castlevania Symphony of the Night (NON-GH)
Persona 2
Arc the Lad Collection
Tactics Ogre
Bust A Groove 2
Intelligent Qube
Bust a Groove 1 -
DDR Disney Mix -
Hogs of War -
Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth
Thousand Arms
Vanguard Bandits
Lunar SSS (complete)
Lunar Eternal Blue (complete)
Alundra 1
Alundra 2
Suikoden I
Super Puzzle Fighter
Einhander
Legend of Mana



Dreamcast:
Powerstone 2
Cannon Spike
Vampire Chronicles (rare)
Tech Romancer
Project Justice

N64:
Harvest Moon
Starcraft

Gameboy Color:
Legend of the River King 2

NES:
Mr.Gimmick
Bubble Bobble 2
Dragon Warrior 2,3,4
Snow Brothers


Unsure of their rarity:

PS2:
Jade Coccon 2
PTO 4
Naval Ops
Fatal Frame 1 and 2
Dot.Hack part 2 (or is it 3?)
Monster Rancher 1 and 2
Zone of Enders 2


Xbox:
Deathtrow
Yager
Roller Coaster Tycoon
Fatal Frame 1 and 2
Air Force Delta Storm
Dead or Alive 3 BOOSTER Disc
Moto GP 2
Guily Gear X


GC:
Slugfest 2004
Zelda Collector's Edition
Zelda Ocarina of Time/Master Quest
Go Go Hypergrind (I heard limited quantities were made, can someone confirm?)


PS1:
Koudelka
Grandia
R Types
The Raiden Project
Tales of Destiny I
Tales of Destiny II
Elemental Gearbolt
Psychic Force
City of Lost Children
Klonoa
Nectaris: Military Madness
Speed Racer
Silent Bomber
Castlevania Chronicles
Battle Engine Aquila (Is this ps1 or ps2?)
Dragon Warrior 7



GBA:
Phantasy Star Collecton
Monster Rancher Advance 1 and 2


GB:
Warlocked


Ok, I think that's everything people mentioned, besides the obvious ommisions like ToS. I don't really feel like doing NES and SNES at the moment, but if you want feel free to post them.

I'd really like to get some confirm either yes or no on the games I'm unsure of, please don't just say "yes it's rare" or "no it's not" give some evidence please, I'll try to check ebay but that will only tell me if it is in demand or not. Also same goes for anything I have listed as rare, if I've made a mistake, let me know and provide some proof. I'll try to keep this updated.

[ctice44]

Some other games that are a challenge to find or collectible:

GC:
Gauntlet: DL
NCAA Basketball 2K3
Resident Evil 2 or 3
Slugfest 2004
Tales of Symphonia (soon to be collectible)
Zelda Collection or Ocarina of Time (MQ)

PS2:
Castlevania (Box Set)
Disgaea (soon to be collectible)
Fatal Frame
Grandia Xtreme
Marvel vs Cap 2

PS:
Bust A Groove 2
DDR
Elemental Gearbolt
Intelligent Qube
Tales of Destiny I or II

Xbox:
Air Force Delta Storm
Dead or Alive 3 BOOSTER Disc
Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis
Marv vs Cap 2
Moto GP 2

[ramprider0]

Man I've been looking for Jurassic Park for Xbox and its pretty hard to find!

[R1V3R5]

Rez



Rez gets a re-release for $19.99 in November. I know the original is rare and all but I'm sure that it will not be as sought after once Sega re-releases it.

[jimbodan]

Rez



Rez gets a re-release for $19.99 in November. I know the original is rare and all but I'm sure that it will not be as sought after once Sega re-releases it.

I'm aware of that, but at the moment it's rare. Besides who knows if the new packaging will be different?

[ViolentLee]

This is for more recent systems, and taking into account what's already been mentioned.

GameCube:
Cubivore - I've heard only 5,000 were made

GBA:
Car Battler Joe
Tactics Ogre

PS2:
World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars 2002

PSone:
Bust a Groove 1 - very rare
DDR Disney Mix - very rare
Hogs of War - so rare nobody ever mentions it
Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth
Klonoa
Monster Rancher 1 & 2
Nectaris: Military Madness
Speed Racer
Thousand Arms
Vanguard Bandits

[Scorch]

Man I've been looking for Jurassic Park for Xbox and its pretty hard to find!

I used to think so too, but my Hastings just got five new sealed copies. Sells at 29.99.

[masha]

Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth


Outpost has it. I got it there a month ago. $40

[Rig]

What about that Inu-Yasha fighting game for PS1? I used to see it, but I haven't seen it for quite some time. It's actually a pretty good (but shallow) fighter.

[masha]

Man I've been looking for Jurassic Park for Xbox and its pretty hard to find!

I used to think so too, but my Hastings just got five new sealed copies. Sells at 29.99.
I just LoVe Hastings and their PS1 section.(YMMV) I grabbed Thouthand Arms (new) this summer for $49. I know it bites, but I traded 3 crappy games and got it for free($12 to be exact) .

[msdmoney]

Some other games that are a challenge to find or collectible:

GC:

Tales of Symphonia (soon to be collectible)



?? :!: I don't think Tales of Symphonia is hard to find, I still see it at all the major retailers.

[masha]

What about that Inu-Yasha fighting game for PS1? I used to see it, but I haven't seen it for quite some time. It's actually a pretty good (but shallow) fighter.

My Target still had a few copies last week for $20.

[bsschorr]

A few to add to the list:

PS2-
Gallop Racer 2001 and 2003

GBA-
Castlevania Harmony of Dissonance
Phantasy Star Collecton
Monster Rancher Advance 1 and 2
Cima

[vherub]

ebay is probably one of, if not the, best sources for databasing rare games- i would say any old title still selling at or above its original msrp qualifies as rare.

[rebenns]

Guilty Gear for XBox, despite being released recently, is very hard to find. Also, that game with the strange name for PS2, where you control a ball and have to crush towns, is also hard to find (but that may be because shortsighted retailers failed to see the popularity, and will soon correct this).

[masha]

Guilty Gear for XBox, despite being released recently, is very hard to find. Also, that game with the strange name for PS2, where you control a ball and have to crush towns, is also hard to find (but that may be because shortsighted retailers failed to see the popularity, and will soon correct this).

KATAMARI DAMACY will become rare . Just watch it :D

[Rig]

Guilty Gear for XBox, despite being released recently, is very hard to find. Also, that game with the strange name for PS2, where you control a ball and have to crush towns, is also hard to find (but that may be because shortsighted retailers failed to see the popularity, and will soon correct this).

KATAMARI DAMACY will become rare . Just watch it :D

It probably will, and I am still trying to find it!

[bsschorr]

The hard to find PS2 game you are talking about (where you control a ball is Katamari Darmaci. Also Guilty Gear X and X2 are both pretty hard to find for the PS2. I have also had some trouble locating copies of King of the Fighter 2000/2001 for the PS2, but this might just be me.

[masha]

Guilty Gear for XBox, despite being released recently, is very hard to find. Also, that game with the strange name for PS2, where you control a ball and have to crush towns, is also hard to find (but that may be because shortsighted retailers failed to see the popularity, and will soon correct this).

KATAMARI DAMACY will become rare . Just watch it :D

It probably will, and I am still trying to find it!

Grab it while you can from EB or Gamestop.

[Cornfedwb]

GameCube:
Cubivore - I've heard only 5,000 were made


Cubivore has become hard to find? I see it constantly at GS and EB.

And for whomever said Disgaea and Tales of Symphonia... Disgaea got a release, its no longer rare.. Tales of Symphonia is anywhere and everywhere, its a major release, and definitely not rare.

[peteloaf]

SNES

Mega Man X2
Mega Man X3
Ninja Gaiden Trilogy
Any of the Square games (I don't know if they are actually rare because I see them all the time...)
Nosferatu
Dracula X

There is a whole bunch more but probably the most rare is an import game called Rendering Ranger, it's third Turrican game for snes, only a few thousand were made...

[masha]

GameCube:
Cubivore - I've heard only 5,000 were made


Cubivore has become hard to find? I see it constantly at GS and EB.

And for whomever said Disgaea and Tales of Symphonia... Disgaea got a release, its no longer rare.. Tales of Symphonia is anywhere and everywhere, its a major release, and definitely not rare.

I never saw Cubivore in a wild. Got mine from ebay a week ago. Very small print. I MUST have it. :D

[big_squirtle]

PS1
Psychic Force
City of Lost Children
Lunar 1 and 2
Alundra 1 and 2
Suikoden
Super Puzzle Fighter
Castlevania (SOTN)

PS2
Zone of Enders 2

[int80h]

Capcom only printed 5000 copies of Vampire Chronicles for the DC.

[dpac]

PSone:
Bust a Groove 1 - very rare
DDR Disney Mix - very rare
Hogs of War - so rare nobody ever mentions it
Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth
Klonoa
Monster Rancher 1 & 2
Nectaris: Military Madness
Speed Racer
Thousand Arms
Vanguard Bandits
Wow, I guess having some of these games (like BaG and Hoshigami) makes them seem less rare to me (and I'm not trying to brag or anything). But while we're mentioning DDR Disney Mix, we can't forget DDR Konamix, which I think I'll have to end up ordering from Amazon or BuynShop.com. By the way, good work in GI, VLee.

[Cornfedwb]

Oh, I'd like to mention... don't buy a game just because it's rare. If you don't like the game, spending $50+ on a game is ludicrous. If you really want to invest.. find a broker and buy some stocks, or get CDs (at your bank, not your local Quonset Hut), get into a mutual fund.. anything better than video games.

Look at Disgaea, Rez, Skies of Arcadia, that one Dragonball Z game, the rumors of a Suikoden I & II re-release... when developers see these games are selling as rare games, they re-release them and your value goes to hell.

Even assuming the game doens't get released.. lets say you get a copy of a rare game for $40.. then after 6 months when its more rare, you may be able to get $50 for it.. or it goes down in value and sell it for $30. You're talking a 25% return with a high risk.. a low-low risk mutual fund will give you a 12-15% return, high risk could be in the 40% range.

[ryosnk]

Oh, I'd like to mention... don't buy a game just because it's rare. If you don't like the game, spending $50+ on a game is ludicrous. If you really want to invest.. find a broker and buy some stocks, or get CDs (at your bank, not your local Quonset Hut), get into a mutual fund.. anything better than video games.

That is so correct. Just got married a few months ago and I'm planning on saving money for a home and investing for my future kids college funds. (Is their a place where I can get a fixed college tuition rate? I heard about this once.) Collecting games is fun, but let it be rare or common games, it's not worth wasteing your money on a game for its current asking price if you are not going to play it.

[jbroush99]

Guilty Gear for XBox, despite being released recently, is very hard to find. Also, that game with the strange name for PS2, where you control a ball and have to crush towns, is also hard to find (but that may be because shortsighted retailers failed to see the popularity, and will soon correct this).

KATAMARI DAMACY will become rare . Just watch it :D

It probably will, and I am still trying to find it!

Grab it while you can from EB or Gamestop.

Now that all the employees have their copies, the rest should be making it to the shelves.

[roc's feather]

Great List so far. Just a couple more (I think)

N64
Harvest Moon

GBA
Sonic Pinball Party
Ninja Five-o

GB
Warlocked

PS2
Jade Coccon 2 (maybe?)

PSone
Koudelka
Grandia

DC
Tech Romancer
Project Justice

Oh, and is ZOE 2 really that rare? And how about Stretch Panic? And while you can currently order it as the third topping on a sub, I'm betting that in five years or so, people will start asking about that Unlimited Saga game.

[masha]

I agree with you Cornfedwb. Personaly I don't collect games to make a profit out of it. I do that, cause I like it. In order to make your collection complete you have to buy more games regardless it's $50 or $15 you spend on it. $15 is much better for me :D . That's why I'm here for. Once you make one complete there is another collection follows. Never ending process.

[masha]

PS1

R-Type Delta
R Types
Intelligent Qube
Einhander
The Raiden Project (Almost all long box PS1 are rare)

PS2

PTO 4
Naval Ops

Xbox

Deathtrow
Yager
Roller Coaster Tycoon
Broken Sword - The Sleeping Dragon

[Cornfedwb]

^^^

I disagree with Deathrow and Broken Sword... Broken Sword is somewhat harder to find, but definitely not rare.. and Deathrow.. that's everywhere last time I was inclinated to look.

[SadieDee]

[quote=ViolentLee]
Wow, I guess having some of these games (like BaG and Hoshigami) makes them seem less rare to me (and I'm not trying to brag or anything). But while we're mentioning DDR Disney Mix, we can't forget DDR Konamix, which I think I'll have to end up ordering from Amazon or BuynShop.com. By the way, good work in GI, VLee.

I don't think DDR Konamix is rare, it's just hard to find. People who like DDR will usually keep their games instead of trading them in.

I ended up buying Konamix online, but I have seen it in stores in my area.

[roc's feather]

GameCube:
Cubivore - I've heard only 5,000 were made


Cubivore has become hard to find? I see it constantly at GS and EB.

And for whomever said Disgaea and Tales of Symphonia... Disgaea got a release, its no longer rare.. Tales of Symphonia is anywhere and everywhere, its a major release, and definitely not rare.

Yeah, I don't think Disgaea is rare, it's just never had a price drop. I think it is the only PS2 game out there that has never dropped a cent (sans the CC $5 fire sale), though that's... probably a topic for a different forum.

[masha]

^^^

I disagree with Deathrow and Broken Sword... Broken Sword is somewhat harder to find, but definitely not rare.. and Deathrow.. that's everywhere last time I was inclinated to look.

Xbox games hardly become rare anyway. What else is there..hmmm.

Marvel vs Capcom 2

[mykevermin]

PS2:Castlevania (Box Set)

Huh? Box set? Is this an American release?

myke.

[slidecage]

Why hasnt none said

Panzer dragoon saga
Shining force3
Winning post
ALL ON Saturn

ANd the game my cousin stepped on and broke and made me cry
SHINING FORCE CD for the Sega cd

[Theenternal]

The DDR games are pretty easy to find...at least in my area, but i have not checked to see what they are fetching for on ebay.

Reissue games in most cases, the original will loose its value signifigantly.

(Sealed) original games tend to be less affectedfrom being rereleased.

Reissues on a better format/extra material will also effect value.

Even if one does not intend to make profit from rare games etc. Its good to know the market and save money if you can.

More money saved=more games ;)

[sying]

Super Mario Brothers for the NES, super duper rare, get one if you find one ;)

But seriously, the 1991 Nintendo World Championships Tournament Cart. The Holy Grail of rare games, especially the gold ones. Have fetched over a grand on Ebay

[ctice44]

To answer myke. This is what I found about the Castlvaina box set. It says it is "Castlevania:Lament of Innocence in the USA" but the format is "NTSC Japan". I was not aware of any Castlevania box set either, but when I did some reaserch and came across this (at a glance) it looked American.... but the more I look at it, I'm guessing no. I'm sorry if I sent out misinformation, I was just in a rush & got a little excited.
Here's the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8133259 417&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Also, I never said Tales of Symphinia or Disgaea IS rare, I just said they would be collectible and most likely rare down the road (like a year or two). I do know that they rereleased Disgaea (and the guide), but I still find it a challenge to locate sometimes.

[supermariomelee]

Wait, ZOE2 is rare? I don't think so, but probably hard to find in areas.

[PsyClerk]

Arc the Lad Collection on PS1 is not rare. Expensive, but it came out at what? $70 to begin with? Maybe more?

Half.com has copies for $40 or less pretty often. Complete as well.

[Journey]

Ok, how bout Silent Bomber and Castlevania Chronicles for PS1.
And Earthbound for SNES.

[dinovelvet]

Super Mario Brothers for the NES, super duper rare, get one if you find one ;)

But seriously, the 1991 Nintendo World Championships Tournament Cart. The Holy Grail of rare games, especially the gold ones. Have fetched over a grand on Ebay

Pah...you call that a holy grail? THIS is a rare game :P

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4315&item=81316104 39&rd=1

Anyway, about this topic in general, its important to make the distinction between Rare and In-Demand. People always say the Final Fantasy games for the NES and SNES are "rare" but there are about 50 copies of those on ebay at any one time, whereas genuinely hard to find titles like Super Noah's Ark 3D don't usually go for much.
But to throw another title in, try F-1 2001 for the Xbox, it seems to be creeping up there in price, currently fetching 35-40 for a sealed copy. Also someone already mentioned Resident Evil 2 & 3 for the Gamecube, I have a feeling that Code Veronica X will soon be joining them in the high price range, sealed copies are fetching in the 40s right now.

[jimbodan]

Arc the Lad Collection on PS1 is not rare. Expensive, but it came out at what? $70 to begin with? Maybe more?

Half.com has copies for $40 or less pretty often. Complete as well.

If you look on half.com or ebay then no game is rare since just about every game except the absolute rarest of the rare can be found there.

I don't know about your area, but around here no B&M stores have Arc the Lad collection, even TRU (which used to be the only store with it) is all sold out. It is also hard to find even at online stores, froogle only returned me with 1 site that had it used for under 50, all the rest were 59.99+.

I'd say the lack of many copies at B&M stores combined with it's high price makes this game rare.

[jimbodan]

Anyway, about this topic in general, its important to make the distinction between Rare and In-Demand.

That's a very good point, even if a game is super rare if no one wants it then it really isn't worth much.

[hiccupleftovers]

Some other games that are a challenge to find or collectible:

GC:
Gauntlet: DL
NCAA Basketball 2K3
Resident Evil 2 or 3
Slugfest 2004
Tales of Symphonia (soon to be collectible)
Zelda Collection or Ocarina of Time (MQ)

PS2:
Castlevania (Box Set)
Disgaea (soon to be collectible)
Fatal Frame
Grandia Xtreme
Marvel vs Cap 2

PS:
Bust A Groove 2
DDR
Elemental Gearbolt
Intelligent Qube
Tales of Destiny I or II

Xbox:
Air Force Delta Storm
Dead or Alive 3 BOOSTER Disc
Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis
Marv vs Cap 2
Moto GP 2

Tales of Symphonia is not rare at all. That game got a huge release since it is one of the only GCN RPGs. I heard that it had a pretty large preorder as well. Something like 250,000-350,000.

Some I would like to add are:

Einhander
Battle Engine Aquila
Valkyrie Profile
Dragon Warrior 7
Intelligent Qube (I think that's how it is spelled)
Vagrant Story (some of you may disagree with me on this one, but it tends to be quite difficult to find.)
Thread of Fate
Thousand Arms
Culdcept

[hiccupleftovers]

Anyway, about this topic in general, its important to make the distinction between Rare and In-Demand.

That's a very good point, even if a game is super rare if no one wants it then it really isn't worth much.

I highly agree with this statement. But even it is to a certain degree. There will always be collector's out there that want to complete their collection.

[hiccupleftovers]

Super Mario Brothers for the NES, super duper rare, get one if you find one ;)

But seriously, the 1991 Nintendo World Championships Tournament Cart. The Holy Grail of rare games, especially the gold ones. Have fetched over a grand on Ebay

Pah...you call that a holy grail? THIS is a rare game :P

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4315&item=81316104 39&rd=1

Anyway, about this topic in general, its important to make the distinction between Rare and In-Demand. People always say the Final Fantasy games for the NES and SNES are "rare" but there are about 50 copies of those on ebay at any one time, whereas genuinely hard to find titles like Super Noah's Ark 3D don't usually go for much.
But to throw another title in, try F-1 2001 for the Xbox, it seems to be creeping up there in price, currently fetching 35-40 for a sealed copy. Also someone already mentioned Resident Evil 2 & 3 for the Gamecube, I have a feeling that Code Veronica X will soon be joining them in the high price range, sealed copies are fetching in the 40s right now.

The Holy Grail of games is this one game that coca cola sold out of their magazines around 1985 I believe. There are only 500 in existence, and most are unaccounted for I believe. I don't emember the title of it. I hadn't known that about Code Veronica X for GCN. I picked it up at the CC sale for $5 and was going to open it. Maybe now I'll hang on to it a little longer.

[dinovelvet]

I hadn't known that about Code Veronica X for GCN. I picked it up at the CC sale for $5 and was going to open it. Maybe now I'll hang on to it a little longer.

Yep, right after the CC sale started, there were tons of sealed Gamecube Code Veronicas on ebay, you could get them for $10-$15, but now they're getting $35-$40, and it seems to be going up and up.

[Mookyjooky]

I'm looking for a decent copy of guitaroo man....anyone want to sell? PM me.

[masha]

I'm looking for a decent copy of guitaroo man....anyone want to sell? PM me.

EB had 3 copies this morning online. OOs now. They do some games every morning around 8 am ET.

dafoomie thread:

http://cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33098

[CaptainObviousXl]

well i never thought Gauntlet: DL for gc was rare, but i know that a sealed copy of ff7 non-gh is worth over $100

[jimbodan]

well i never thought Gauntlet: DL for gc was rare, but i know that a sealed copy of ff7 non-gh is worth over $100

I'll see if I can find out more info on Gauntlet, as for NON-Gh and sealed stuff, I'm not sure if I should bother listing them or not? I know I have castlevania non gh listed but I'm thinking of taking it off. What do you guys think?

[PsyClerk]

If you look on half.com or ebay then no game is rare since just about every game except the absolute rarest of the rare can be found there.

Using this logic, 95% of released games are rare, because I can't find them at the local B&M stores. That's real fuzzy logic.

If you can waltz onto Half.com at almost any time and get it for less than $50 (seeing as how it's MSRP is $70 or more), I can't see how you can call it rare. It appears there are a lot of copies in circulation, with just enough demand to keep it from going into the bargain bin.

Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure the local Wal-Mart had Arc the Lad Collection, but I'd bet a twenty that they ended up sending it back or doing whatever Wal-Mart does to games that won't sell. I recall seeing it in the display case and waiting for the price to drop.

But as stated before (and has come up in every single thread that discusses so-called 'rare' games), there is a significant difference between being rare (few copies produced) and being in demand.

Looking over this thread, a lot of the games mentioned aren't really rare. Culdcept is DEFINITELY not rare.

[jimbodan]

If you look on half.com or ebay then no game is rare since just about every game except the absolute rarest of the rare can be found there.

Using this logic, 95% of released games are rare, because I can't find them at the local B&M stores. That's real fuzzy logic.

If you can waltz onto Half.com at almost any time and get it for less than $50 (seeing as how it's MSRP is $70 or more), I can't see how you can call it rare. It appears there are a lot of copies in circulation, with just enough demand to keep it from going into the bargain bin.

Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure the local Wal-Mart had Arc the Lad Collection, but I'd bet a twenty that they ended up sending it back or doing whatever Wal-Mart does to games that won't sell. I recall seeing it in the display case and waiting for the price to drop.

But as stated before (and has come up in every single thread that discusses so-called 'rare' games), there is a significant difference between being rare (few copies produced) and being in demand.

Looking over this thread, a lot of the games mentioned aren't really rare. Culdcept is DEFINITELY not rare.

I don't think you understand, E-Bay and Half.com have just about every game, so by your logic if I see a game on half.com or ebay it isn't rare? So I guess Fox Hunt for ps1 which Digitalpress.com has listed as an 8 in rarity isn't in fact rare at all because I see a copy for sale on ebay? Come on.

Unless I have been significantly misinformed Culdcept had a very low print #, which makes it rare, not nessecarily in demand or pricey, but rare.

Please, if you aren't going to contribute to this thread post elsewhere. If you want to critique everything then please provide some evidence to the contrary. I'll be more then happy to take anything off the list to that you prove to not be either rare (low print numbers, low numbers in circulation) or in demand (ps1 and previous games selling for at least 30).

[fireball343]

I'm going to pick up Fatal Frame for 10 bucks at gamerush for xbox since it's kinda rare

[PhrozenFire]

Thanks for answering guys, and for making that list since I haven't checked here in a while.

[jimbodan]

Thanks for answering guys, and for making that list since I haven't checked here in a while.

No problem, I'm going to TRY to get some prices up tonight, but we'll see

[PsyClerk]

I don't think you understand, E-Bay and Half.com have just about every game, so by your logic if I see a game on half.com or ebay it isn't rare? So I guess Fox Hunt for ps1 which Digitalpress.com has listed as an 8 in rarity isn't in fact rare at all because I see a copy for sale on ebay? Come on.

Makes as much sense as "if I don't see it at a B&M store, it's rare." Besides, that's not what I was getting at. If you see ONE copy on eBay, and only every so often, then it's relatively safe to assume it's a rare game. If on the other hand, I can jump on and find a half dozen copies or more at any given time...maybe not so rare.

B&M stores don't keep a game in stock forever, that's the point I was trying to make in my last post. Devil May Cry 2 isn't rare by a longshot, yet I'd have a hard time finding it, even searching my local EBs.

Unless I have been significantly misinformed Culdcept had a very low print #, which makes it rare, not nessecarily in demand or pricey, but rare.

Could have fooled me. I see multiple copies at all the EBs and the one GameStop I've visited lately. And since I can find it at a B&M...

Please, if you aren't going to contribute to this thread post elsewhere. If you want to critique everything then please provide some evidence to the contrary. I'll be more then happy to take anything off the list to that you prove to not be either rare (low print numbers, low numbers in circulation) or in demand (ps1 and previous games selling for at least 30).

Don't take my dissent personally (the whole 'post elsewhere' comment smacks of 'away with you, peon!' ). I just disagreed with how you explain 'rare' (and I still do), it's not like I questioned your parentage. Isn't trying to define 'rare' contributing to the OP? But if we're talking about in-demand (aka high dollar) games as well, then that changes things big time.

Now I have deja-vu from the other times this thread has happened, and I feel JSweeney approaching.

[pimp tyranny]

so many rare games, so little money.

[jimbodan]

I don't think you understand, E-Bay and Half.com have just about every game, so by your logic if I see a game on half.com or ebay it isn't rare? So I guess Fox Hunt for ps1 which Digitalpress.com has listed as an 8 in rarity isn't in fact rare at all because I see a copy for sale on ebay? Come on.

Makes as much sense as "if I don't see it at a B&M store, it's rare." Besides, that's not what I was getting at. If you see ONE copy on eBay, and only every so often, then it's relatively safe to assume it's a rare game. If on the other hand, I can jump on and find a half dozen copies or more at any given time...maybe not so rare.

B&M stores don't keep a game in stock forever, that's the point I was trying to make in my last post. Devil May Cry 2 isn't rare by a longshot, yet I'd have a hard time finding it, even searching my local EBs.

Unless I have been significantly misinformed Culdcept had a very low print #, which makes it rare, not nessecarily in demand or pricey, but rare.

Could have fooled me. I see multiple copies at all the EBs and the one GameStop I've visited lately. And since I can find it at a B&M...

Please, if you aren't going to contribute to this thread post elsewhere. If you want to critique everything then please provide some evidence to the contrary. I'll be more then happy to take anything off the list to that you prove to not be either rare (low print numbers, low numbers in circulation) or in demand (ps1 and previous games selling for at least 30).

Don't take my dissent personally (the whole 'post elsewhere' comment smacks of 'away with you, peon!' ). I just disagreed with how you explain 'rare' (and I still do), it's not like I questioned your parentage. Isn't trying to define 'rare' contributing to the OP? But if we're talking about in-demand (aka high dollar) games as well, then that changes things big time.

Now I have deja-vu from the other times this thread has happened, and I feel JSweeney approaching.

I'm done arguing with you. And yes I do take you're dissent personally since I know for a fact arc the lad collection is rare as is most all of working designs games. If you don't appreciate what I'm doing then don't look at it or follow it. If you want to actually contribute with something, then please feel free to to do so.

[jimbodan]

Thanks for answering guys, and for making that list since I haven't checked here in a while.

No problem, I'm going to TRY to get some prices up tonight, but we'll see

F this. All I'm going to get are people trying to argue with my definition of rare so screw it. God forbid they try and help. It's not worth it. Unless I have a drastic change of heart I'm not updating this.

[mykevermin]

How rare is the chuck wagon game from the Atari 2600?

[JSweeney]

Thanks for answering guys, and for making that list since I haven't checked here in a while.

No problem, I'm going to TRY to get some prices up tonight, but we'll see

F this. All I'm going to get are people trying to argue with my definition of rare so screw it. God forbid they try and help. It's not worth it. Unless I have a drastic change of heart I'm not updating this.

Well, that is what happens when you use an arbitrary metric which you don't fully explain and reach a concensus on early in the thread.

[PsyClerk]

I told you JSweeney was coming, but did anyone listen? Noooooo...

[Jaket]

klonoa ought to be moved up to the for sure section... it's very hard to find. and the klonoa 2 game for ps2 should be in the unsure one.... if i remember correctly its mighty hard to come buy complete

[PsyClerk]

Oh yeah, I also wanted to add that Digital Press and Fatman Games (unsure about their integrity, they might just copy from Digital Press) both list Arc the Lad collection as rarity...2. That's not rare.

Also, had I not been flummoxed by a late night session of MK:Deception (damn you Mileena and your cheap healing ass!), I would have had the foresight to look it up, thus making my point in a less offensive manner. Apologies.

[Kevtones]

From my understanding these are the htf find games for the current gen systems, some older ones as well:

Gamecube:
Cubivore (10-15K sold)
NCAA College Basketball 2K3 (under 6K printed)
Summoner: A Goddess Reborn (10-15K printed if that)
Resident Evil 2 (just valued, over 35K sold)
Resident Evil 3 (just valued, over 40K sold)
Lost Kingdoms II (harder then expected to find)
Buffy: Chaos Bleeds (unusually low print)
Super Bust a Move 3000 (tough to find)

*note that PSO 1+2 original is worth nothing now and is not rare selling over 150K...ToS is fantastic but it sold 200K already, that = not rare by any means)

Xbox:
Fatal Frame (tough to find, sold like shit)
Jurassic Park: OG (not worth finding)
Steel Batallion Line of Contact (I think?)

PS2:
Fatal Frame (tough)
Fatal Frame 2: Crimson Butterfly (not hard to find but because of no price drop it sold poorly)
Forever Kingdom (never seen this in the flesh beyond my ebay copy)
Gitaroo Man (probably the toughest to find)
Rez (soon to be rereleased)
Grandia Xtreme (although I see it EVERYWHERE)
Sky Gunner (this seems to be pretty obscure)
Crimson Sea 2 (call it a hunch)
Tsugunai (tough to find)
Dual Hearts (pretty uncommon, not worth it really)
ZOE2 (high demand for this one)
Culdcept (meh on this game)

N64:
Rocket Robot on Wheels (so great)
Spacestation Silicon Valley (tough to find I think)
Goemons Great Adventure (GREAT game)
Worms Armaggedon
Starcraft 64 (worth a bit)
Ogre Battle 64
Indiana Jones (rental only)
Beast Wars (rental only)

DC:
Mars Matrix
Bangai-O
Gunbird 2
Giga Wing
Giga Wing 2
Red Dog
Cannon Spike (so overrated)
Project Justice
Confidential Mission
Dragonriders (shitty game though)
Midway Volume 2 (5000 print)

PS1:
Suikoden II
Valkyrie Profile
Rhapsody
Silent Bomber (9000 print)
Vanark
Hogs of War
Carnage Heart (tough as hell to find)
Aquanoughts Holiday
SOTN (original)
Saiyuki
Persona
Persona 2
Trap Gunner
Brigandine
Kartia
Einhander
Thunder Force V

so many others

[Scorch]

I wonder if Thrill Kill for PS1 and Half-Life for Dreamcast could be considered rare. While they never went to retail, full copies were leaked to the net, and I actually have a working copy of Half-Life for Dreamcast..

[PsyClerk]

If it's on the net, and didn't actually see production, I don't think you could call it rare. Unless there is some real prototype that got smuggled out of development (like with the original Earthbound NES game).

I think we had a thread a while back that said that Suikoden II was not really super rare, it's just the people who have copies tend to not sell them (goes back to the in-demand thing). Listed at rarity 4 though. That being said, if you see a decent copy for $40 or less, you are insane if you don't buy it

I believe one of the Namco Museum titles on PSX was pretty rare, Volume 3 I think. In fact, a couple of those in that series supposedly had below average print runs.

[masha]

Vanark any good? I saw a sealed copy in a gamestore.

[dinovelvet]

How rare is the chuck wagon game from the Atari 2600?

It is rare, but not as rare as its reputation claims...its listed as an 8/10 rarity; prices have dropped for it lately, it fetches around $80 right now.

[supermariomelee]

Vanark any good? I saw a sealed copy in a gamestore.

It's not that good, but it is hard to find now.

[shrike4242]

I'd consider Steel Battalion in the rare-ish column, just because it was $199 and has the huge controller and no one seems to keep it in stock anymore.

[Biglesworth23]

Could someone post some links to these sites that rate "rare" games in terms of.. well.. rarity? :)

[Wet Ninja]

Could someone post some links to these sites that rate "rare" games in terms of.. well.. rarity? :)

Digital Press is pretty comprehensive: http://www.digitpress.com/index2.htm
(click on "Online Rarity Guide" on the left)

[JSweeney]

Demand is more important in figuring a price than rarity.
A highly demanded game can command a high price without being rare.
Rarity coupled with high demand will lead to even higher prices.

Most of the games people throw on lists such as this are hardly rare. Most often, they are highly demanded games who don't have highly volatile markets (that is, the people that buy them hold them rather than dump them back into the market until they can get a price they see as acceptable for them. Hence the higher price for things like the SNES square games, etc.

Heck, look at them on Digitpress.
FF2,FF3 and Secret of Mana are all listed with a scarcity of 2, yet they always get lumped into these lists.

[thesilentshadow30]

Yager is not rare, it has not yet been released. It should be coming out sometime this month (finaly).

Air Force Delta Storm is not rare. It was originally released in a limited quanity but after close to a year of being the rarest xbox game it was rereleased new for 29.99 retail. The value of the first run dropped (acording to ebay demand) from a sealed copy going for $200 to $30.

[-Never4ever-]

Sorry but RE2+3 are in fact rare. They've only had one print run and have since then nearly disapeared from store shelves. Yes some people can still find the occasional new copy at their local EB or GS, but the same could be said fro gitaroo man and rez.

[Scorch]

How rare is Moto GP2? My cousin gave me it today because he didn't play it anymore.. he wanted me to do trades with it.

[Mr_hockey66]

ps1

discworld 1 & 2

[WKT]

If you're looking for Jurassic Park Operation Genesis (XBox), check TRU. The Union Square store had a ton with the green tag ($29.99).

[exRounder]

Really kicking myself for trading Einhander along with three other games or what not for some PS1 game I can't even remember a while back.

[peteloaf]

Has anybody mentioned the euro version of Kizuna Tag Encounter for the Neo-Geo AES?

There are only 4 known copies, the last one sold for $12,500!!!

Beat that Nintendo world championship cart!

[zionoverfire]

Really kicking myself for trading Einhander along with three other games or what not for some PS1 game I can't even remember a while back.

Yeah well I traded in tactics ogre psx (complete) for 15 store credit a couple of years.

[biggestinuyashafan]

Yeah well I traded in tactics ogre psx (complete) for 15 store credit a couple of years.[/quote]

i think you mean ogre tactics,not the other way around. there was one of these at the GS i work at for $34.99 sunday night since we did inventory that night.

[Biglesworth23]

Kizuna Tag Encounter? That's nothing compared to the grand master of all rare and expensive games..



NFL2K3. Beat that! I hear it reaches upwards of three dollars, occasionally!

[CappyCobra]

Why hasnt none said

Panzer dragoon saga
Shining force3
Winning post
ALL ON Saturn

ANd the game my cousin stepped on and broke and made me cry
SHINING FORCE CD for the Sega cd

Damn, I was begining to think there was no love for Saturn! ;)

BTW Don't Forget:
Mystaria (Changed to mystic heroes for a trademark violation)
Burning Rangers
Albert's Oddessey
Legend of Oasis
Astal
Sillioete Mirage
Dracula X
Guardian Heroes
Radiant Silvergun

[fireball343]

Sorry but RE2+3 are in fact rare. They've only had one print run and have since then nearly disapeared from store shelves. Yes some people can still find the occasional new copy at their local EB or GS, but the same could be said fro gitaroo man and rez.
EDIT: this is the part where i realize your talking about the gamecube versions that relased at ripoff prices and disapperared.

i just saw like 5 of each today at gamestop and gamerush, along with some directors cut of RE1. plus another non-gamerush blockbuster has a copy or two of re3 new.

[fireball343]

I'd consider Steel Battalion in the rare-ish column, just because it was $199 and has the huge controller and no one seems to keep it in stock anymore.

just found out my gamestop had one used. wonder if they'll match my gamerush coupon.....

[kaji7p56]

Is Breath of Fire IV rare? I got it for $12.99 at GS today. I also picked up Front Mission 3 for $19.99. Both were disc only.

I also saw Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth at a local Gamerush. I know it's rare, so I can pick it up if someone wants to trade.

[EddieBelfour]

they had about 7 pso 1 and 2 for gc at media play today.


i was wondering if P.N. 03 is hard to find... its the only place ive ever seen it.

[Zenithian Legend]

Rhapsody... seriously I remember the first time I saw that game on ebay for over $100 and rising. It was then I realized there was a whole underground sub-culture of these collectors of rare games. I do happen to have a few of them though, including a sealed copy of Cubivore. Well, sealed at the moment, I plan on playing it. I got it for the same reason I got Space Station Silicon Valley years ago, and that was for the abstract concept value. Shame about SSSV though, my copy was glitched and I never got to see the good ending, because there was one gold statue that I could touch, but it wouldn't register as collected.

[zionoverfire]

Yeah well I traded in tactics ogre psx (complete) for 15 store credit a couple of years.

i think you mean ogre tactics,not the other way around. there was one of these at the GS i work at for $34.99 sunday night since we did inventory that night.[/quote]

No its Tactics Ogre, but if you've got a complete copy at your store I'm interested.

[zionoverfire]

Is Breath of Fire IV rare? I got it for $12.99 at GS today. I also picked up Front Mission 3 for $19.99. Both were disc only.

I also saw Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth at a local Gamerush. I know it's rare, so I can pick it up if someone wants to trade.

The first two aren't that bad a find but aren't worth that much especially without thier cases, Blue Earth though is definatley worth something especially complete.

[kaji7p56]

Is Breath of Fire IV rare? I got it for $12.99 at GS today. I also picked up Front Mission 3 for $19.99. Both were disc only.

I also saw Hoshigami: Ruining Blue Earth at a local Gamerush. I know it's rare, so I can pick it up if someone wants to trade.

The first two aren't that bad a find but aren't worth that much especially without thier cases, Blue Earth though is definatley worth something especially complete.

So, I paid too much? Is BoF IV a good game? I didn't buy them because they are rare, it's just a coincidence.

I'm not sure if Hoshigami was complete, or if it just had the manual.

[gza331]

Isn't the non PH version of Fuzion Frenzy rare?

[guessed]

they had about 7 pso 1 and 2 for gc at media play today.


i was wondering if P.N. 03 is hard to find... its the only place ive ever seen it.

Was that PSO I & II, or PSO I & 2 Plus? I am willing to bet that it was the latter.

I don't think P.N. 03 is hard to find, I see it used all the time, but most stores no longer sell it new.

gza331: Non-PH Fuzion Frenzy is not rare at all. Neither is the PH version.

[biggestinuyashafan]

i found 2 legends of mana for psx at the gs i work at. both are complete (haven't had a chance to look at the condition of them though). i already have someone intrested in legend of mana. i will get both and if there is any intrest in the other one, pm me.

[Nephets]

What about Bubble Bath Babes and Peek-A-Boo Poker on the NES? :lol:

[schultzed]

I just scanned through this whole mess: and I've come to some conclusions:

There are . . .
RARE games
HARD-TO-FIND games
VALUABLE games
IN-DEMAND games
COOL games that people don't know about

being Rare can make a game valuable but only of high value if its in-demand
Valuable games have value probably due mostly to scarcity
Hard-to-find games might be cheap and easy to find somewhere(EBGAMES.com has 5 copies of Klonoa 2 for $20 each . . . these are complete and would sell for $17 shipped with codes . . . go buy it!!!)
In-demand games may see this demand fluctuate
Cool games are ones we should play because they are good and could be rare, hard-to-find but maybe not valuable :lol:

For instance, I wanted Contra Shattered Soilder in the worst way . . . bought it used and complete for $15 shipped on half.com note: it took a week to wait for my price. Basically it's hard-to-find . . . Gamecrazy has it for $45!

Someone mentioned Rocket Robot on Wheels N64 in this thread . . . I have one complete so my eyes popped a little . . . just checked in on ebay it sells for much less than $20 :x

So . . . what am I getting at? . . . this thread is useless because little distinction is made between these factors :wink:

Also, if you want to make money on this stuff, you need to take many factors into consideration and just know a whole lot of info.

And then there is just the down-right odd . . . I have a Skies of Arcadia players guide out on ebay (bought if for 50 cents) and it's sitting at $50 (ends tonight) . . . WTF is wrong with people!!!

[levi333]

Man, if had at least 10 of those games at one time or another. kinda makes me want to kick myself.