Worst band

[Rozz]

What is the worst band out of the ones listed on the poll?

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

ive never heard of shuvel. but i hate the rest of them.

do you mean chevelle?

[Rozz]

Nope, Shuvel is correct.

[Rozz]

Nope, Shuvel is correct.

[TheUnsane1]

Creed hands down.

[spyhunterk19]

IMO, they all suck

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

"Fricken A" is the worst. my sister likes it

its a country/pop band. and i hate both

[TheUnsane1]

I will not post the real worst band IMO as it would get me flamed heavily I assume. Only a couple people have ever agreed with it.

[Rig]

Where's the "all of the above suck the same amount and are all equally terrible?" Since that wasn't an option, I voted for Creed.

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

unsane............what do you think the worst band is?

[Mafia]

Never heard of Shuvel, but all of the others suck. Creed woulda been fine if that "Can you take me higher" song was about him actually getting stoned, since that formula has worked for years. All of the others sound like they haven't gotten out of high school yet, and wouldn't have appealed to me even before I got out. And outside of Good Charlotte, they all sound exactly the same to me. Luckily there are enough radio stations around here with enough sense not to play that kinda shit.

[Skylander7]

Should have been an "all the above" choice...

[fireball343]

they all pretty much are crap. i can't stand all the pop/rock so called punk crap.

[Mafia]

I will not post the real worst band IMO as it would get me flamed heavily I assume. Only a couple people have ever agreed with it.

Well, that's what opinions are for. So who do you think is worst?

[darth007]

Hard to decide between Simple Plan and Creed, I chose Simple Plan cause they're still around and still annoy me, unlike Creed which is thankfully over.

[TheUnsane1]

Ok I guess I might as well just get this out there for all of CAG to see. I HATE Pantera, if I could remove any band and all their albums from the earth it would be them.

[rabbitt]

I saw the topic title and instantly thought "Good Charlotte."

[smalien1]

The only good punk bands ever are Nirvana, he Clash, the Ramones and Green Day and maybe some indies.

[zionoverfire]

I'd say creed sucks the most mailny due to thier popularity, meaning they got played on all the radio stations for way to long.

[smalien1]

Pantera fans aren't good to mess around with... The're the kind of people who do school shootings. So keep your hatred to yourself

I don't like them either.

[Death2Sanity]

What? No DMB? No Coldplay?

*shudders*

[CaseyRyback]

What? No DMB? No Coldplay?

*shudders*

they play them all the time here!

Also remember when the canes went to the stanley cup and everytime you turned on the radio you would hear:

Scorpions "Rock you like a hurricane"

[Acrylic]

Dave Matthews Band is one of the most awesome recent bands. (Recent as in within the last 10 yrs or so)

And I dunno how ya'll can hate Creed so much compared to the other listed bands. I loved Creed, I still do. Their first album was the best though.

But, I voted for Good Charlotte for worst band ever.

[TheUnsane1]

Oh DMB licks some ass IMO. I will give him that he is a tallented guitar player. How about P.O.D., Saves the Day, MxPx?

[Rig]

DMB sucks something fierce, IMO.

[punqsux]

The only good punk bands ever are Nirvana, he Clash, the Ramones and Green Day and maybe some indies.


clearly youre not a fan of punk, so why even make a list of punk bands that are"the only good ones" if youre not a fan of the genre?

i mean saying you like the clash and the ramones is liike saying "i dont like classic rock, i just like zepplin and floyd."

[jmcc]

"So, I really am important? How I feel when I'm drunk is correct?"
"Yes. Except the Dave Matthews Band doesn't rock."

[Tromack]

I had to go with Creed. How about the new Creed minus the lead singer? Alter Bridge, is it? I haven't heard them, but I have to imagine they are close to creed in terms of shittyness.

[nickmad]

dave matthews, creed, system of a down, audioslave, fuel, live, story of the year, limp bizkit, korn, good charlotte, new found glory, guns n roses and eminem

ESPECIALLY GUNS N ROSES and EMINEM

[alongx]

They're all pretty poor, but I particularly hate NFG.

[smalien1]

The only good punk bands ever are Nirvana, he Clash, the Ramones and Green Day and maybe some indies.


clearly youre not a fan of punk, so why even make a list of punk bands that are"the only good ones" if youre not a fan of the genre?

i mean saying you like the clash and the ramones is liike saying "i dont like classic rock, i just like zepplin and floyd."

I didn't say I didn't like punk I said those were the only good punk bands

[Admiral Ackbar]

Its's funny. Creed formed in Tallahassee when I was going to Florida State, and I had never heard of them while I was there.

[Rig]

dave matthews, creed, system of a down, audioslave, fuel, live, story of the year, limp bizkit, korn, good charlotte, new found glory, guns n roses and eminem

ESPECIALLY GUNS N ROSES and EMINEM

I disagree with System of a Down. I love all of their albums. They are representing themselves. They don't copy any other band. In fact, I am listening to one of their cd's right now.

[nickmad]

Rig wrote:
"I disagree with System of a Down. I love all of their albums. They are representing themselves. They don't copy any other band. In fact, I am listening to one of their cd's right now. "


how are they "representing themselves?"
all they do is push political messages on there fans, just like fake against the machine. they try to make you care about things you have no idea about.

[zewone]

Yellow Card should have been listed.

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

The only good punk bands ever are Nirvana, he Clash, the Ramones and Green Day and maybe some indies.


clearly youre not a fan of punk, so why even make a list of punk bands that are"the only good ones" if youre not a fan of the genre?

i mean saying you like the clash and the ramones is liike saying "i dont like classic rock, i just like zepplin and floyd."

I didn't say I didn't like punk I said those were the only good punk bands



listen to one song from each band listed in my sig.........you WILL change your mind and that statement

[Cable387]

Damn, tough choice between Good Charlotte and Creed, but I give the nod the to Good Charlotte.

[Rig]

Rig wrote:
"I disagree with System of a Down. I love all of their albums. They are representing themselves. They don't copy any other band. In fact, I am listening to one of their cd's right now. "


how are they "representing themselves?"
all they do is push political messages on there fans, just like fake against the machine. they try to make you care about things you have no idea about.

Maybe some of us DO care about their messages. I don't think they are "pushing" their political messages on the fans. The fans have to like what they are saying! What I meant by them "representing themselves" was that they are not rehashing someone else's ideas in order to make money. I'm pretty sure they don't make much money off of their albums. And you've probably only listened to "Toxicity" haven't you?

[Rozz]

I liked Toxicity for a bit but it got boring IMO

[nickmad]

i suffered through the first album, most of toxcitity and maybe a song from steal this album. so yes , i hate them for a reason....they dont sound good.

and....
"I don't think they are "pushing" their political messages on the fans. The fans have to like what they are saying!"

every single song they write has a political meaning. they are a band with an agenda, to get there message out to the american public, in the easiest form....popular music. they get massive radio and tv airplay. the message they send is spread to fans that have no idea what they are talking about and become affliated with system of a downs beliefs becasue they dont know any better.

[Rig]

I liked Toxicity for a bit but it got boring IMO

Seems like everyone heard Toxicity, but very few listen to their others. They had a cd before Toxicity, and one after. Very good, IMO. And I repeat: IMO!!!

[Rig]

i suffered through the first album, most of toxcitity and maybe a song from steal this album. so yes , i hate them for a reason....they dont sound good.

and....
"I don't think they are "pushing" their political messages on the fans. The fans have to like what they are saying!"

every single song they write has a political meaning. they are a band with an agenda, to get there message out to the american public, in the easiest form....popular music. they get massive radio and tv airplay. the message they send is spread to fans that have no idea what they are talking about and become affliated with system of a downs beliefs becasue they dont know any better.

I like that, since you dislike the band, you listened to all three of their cd's. Millions of people have no idea who System of a Down is, and I don't think they got that much radio time. What, two of their songs were played? Doesn't every artist have an agenda? Celebrities use their status to sway the American people everyday on political issues, so why shouldn't System of a Down? Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You hate System of a Down, I on the other hand, do not. I am done bickering. Sorry for taking up so much space on here guys.

[defiance_17]

I loved NFG's self-titled album, and I've never heard of Shuvel, but other than that, all of the above.

[karmapolice]

The only good punk bands ever are Nirvana, he Clash, the Ramones and Green Day and maybe some indies.


clearly youre not a fan of punk, so why even make a list of punk bands that are"the only good ones" if youre not a fan of the genre?

i mean saying you like the clash and the ramones is liike saying "i dont like classic rock, i just like zepplin and floyd."

punq...you took the words right out of my mouth...Nirvana...punk?....when did that happen?...Lets try DK...Misfits...The Germs...but Nirvana?...thats alternative...and crappy alternative at that...my vote went to Creed...but for most overhyped crappy band would go to Nirvana...flame me if you like...but they suck...he cant sing nor can he play guitar and half the songs sound the same...punk was never meant to be "good"...so it doesnt matter...it was an act of rebbelion

[punqsux]

The only good punk bands ever are Nirvana, he Clash, the Ramones and Green Day and maybe some indies.


clearly youre not a fan of punk, so why even make a list of punk bands that are"the only good ones" if youre not a fan of the genre?

i mean saying you like the clash and the ramones is liike saying "i dont like classic rock, i just like zepplin and floyd."

I didn't say I didn't like punk I said those were the only good punk bands



listen to one song from each band listed in my sig.........you WILL change your mind and that statement

ESPECIALLY T.S.O.L.

one of my fav punk bands

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

nirvana is like"grunge" they are ok for grunge i guess.......but im nat a fan of them. they are popular becaue kobain blew his fucking brains out.

[punqsux]

nirvana is like"grunge" they are ok for grunge i guess.......but im nat a fan of them. they are popular becaue kobain blew his shaq-fuing brains out.

i know youre younger than i, so trust me, nirvana was huge THEN he blew his brains out...maybe youre thinking of sublime :wink:

[karmapolice]

Rig wrote:
"I disagree with System of a Down. I love all of their albums. They are representing themselves. They don't copy any other band. In fact, I am listening to one of their cd's right now. "


how are they "representing themselves?"
all they do is push political messages on there fans, just like fake against the machine. they try to make you care about things you have no idea about.

hey dickmad...Rage Against the Machine is a great band IMO...So is System Of A Down...just cuz they dont sell out like many other bands doesnt mean they are bad...they dont push political messeges on their fans...their fans like them because of their political opinions (most do...some just like em cuz others do)...its nice to see people still protesting the government besides underground punk and 60's music...if you critisize music...you need to critisize the MUSIC...not the lyrics...or the messeges...music is about MUSIC...not always lyrics...if you dont like someone for their lyrics then maybe you need to look at music in a different light...so do you not like dead kennedys because of their political views? or the beatles?...do ya?

[punqsux]

i suffered through the first album, most of toxcitity and maybe a song from steal this album. so yes , i hate them for a reason....they dont sound good.

and....
"I don't think they are "pushing" their political messages on the fans. The fans have to like what they are saying!"

every single song they write has a political meaning. they are a band with an agenda, to get there message out to the american public, in the easiest form....popular music. they get massive radio and tv airplay. the message they send is spread to fans that have no idea what they are talking about and become affliated with system of a downs beliefs becasue they dont know any better.i like their sounds, its like a weird DK/crass hybrid...but their music is just well marketed political rock.(as one could say much punk is)

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

i know they were popular with the teen spirit song(and wierd al does a good parody like always) but they gained alot of pupularity when he shot himself. but everyone gets popular and noticed after they die

[Mr. Anderson]

Ah, so many choices, so much shitty music. Careful though, you'll hurt Deadzones feelings. ;-)

[karmapolice]

actually again dick you are wrong...SOAD does not have political messeges in all their songs...half of toxicity and some of Steal This Album are written poems by charles manson...

[punqsux]

Ah, so many choices, so much shitty music. Careful though, you'll hurt Deadzones feelings. ;-)

deadzone has feelings :shock:

[daikaiju]

I'm old enough to like the Sex Pistols :lol:

[Rig]

Rig wrote:
"I disagree with System of a Down. I love all of their albums. They are representing themselves. They don't copy any other band. In fact, I am listening to one of their cd's right now. "


how are they "representing themselves?"
all they do is push political messages on there fans, just like fake against the machine. they try to make you care about things you have no idea about.

hey dickmad...Rage Against the Machine is a great band IMO...So is System Of A Down...just cuz they dont sell out like many other bands doesnt mean they are bad...they dont push political messeges on their fans...their fans like them because of their political opinions (most do...some just like em cuz others do)...its nice to see people still protesting the government besides underground punk and 60's music...if you critisize music...you need to critisize the MUSIC...not the lyrics...or the messeges...music is about MUSIC...not always lyrics...if you dont like someone for their lyrics then maybe you need to look at music in a different light...so do you not like dead kennedys because of their political views? or the beatles?...do ya?

Thanks. I knew someone could help sum it up. :)

EDIT: And I also like Rage Against The Machine. Not as much as System though.

[int80h]

I'm 24, and I remember Nirvana being more popular before the suicide than after.

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

im sure you all have heard of the dead kennedys. the singer jello ran for governor as a joke and turned up in 4th place. arnold won this year, did he not? and bush, is trying to change and bend laws for foreigners can enter presidency. this is becoming a political thread now, haha, just thought i might add this to the mess.

[int80h]

and bush, is trying to change and bend laws for foreigners can enter presidency.

The Rupublicans want the governor of California to be eligable for president, and the Democrats want the governor of Michigan to be eligable for president. Its not jjust one party bringing the issue up.

[karmapolice]

go read the lyrics for Steal This Album...or selftitled...almost no political messeges...also...all of Rage's songs arent political...actually half of em arent...You sound just like my mom..."I dont like them because they appose the government" WTF is that shit? Grow up man...the government is corrupted and always will be...face is...we live in a capatolist country (we dont call ourselves that but thats what weve turned into)...we need original bands to oppose them...I believe Taco Bell raised their wages for tomato pickers in Mexico...because of who????...Rage Against The Machine...they led a boycott of Taco Bell and protested outside...we need people like that...good citizens who will not be rapped by our political system and will protest...

[senorwoohoo]

PREACH ON BROTHA!

[karmapolice]

Sorry...I didnt mean to start preachin...ignorant people make me sick so I feel the need to bitch em out...

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

and bush, is trying to change and bend laws for foreigners can enter presidency.

The Rupublicans want the governor of California to be eligable for president, and the Democrats want the governor of Michigan to be eligable for president. Its not jjust one party bringing the issue up.

i never said the democrats didnt want that........but bush is trying to change it NOW before the voting happens. and if arnold was ever president, i will seriously move out of this country because i cant understand the man and some of his views are pretty stupid. if i were ever president. i would change schooling. the way it is set up. i just hate it. of course i know it IS neede.......but im not going to get into that. we need the politics thread again.

[dcfox]

i know they were popular with the teen spirit song(and wierd al does a good parody like always) but they gained alot of pupularity when he shot himself. but everyone gets popular and noticed after they die

True to some extent but Nirvana was genuinely popular before Cobain offed himself. I believe both Nevermind and In Utero went either platinum or multiplatinum well before his death.

[Admiral Ackbar]

Nirvana was huge before his death. At first I didn't get it. I lgot their first album, liked it, but I was never into the grunge scene and I didn't see what so special. I was actually a huge Pearl Jam Fan, and Pearl Jam and Soundgarden actually had Temple of The Dog out at the same time and I thought that was a much better album.

That change one night when I was watching Saturday Night Live. I had never seen Nirvana before. I didn't even know they were on because I caught the show in mid stride after their first set. they probably played one of their "rotation" songs for their first set, I dunno.

Anyway, they came on and it was a total suprise. They played "Rape Me" and right then, it was like a lightbulb that went off and I instantly got it. I literally remember the first time that I heard Nirvana Live. Rape Me wasn't on radio yet. I don't think stations wanted to play it, so it was Nirvana's only shot to get the song out there to a mass audience. It's truly brilliant. They delivered it with such power. Yet the song is both complex and simple in it's meaning at the same times. There's a brutality to it's cords. I think it's their best song, one fo the best songs ever written, on par with imagine by John Lennon. And I remember sitting there watching them play it and it was literally stunning.

Personally, I've always thought "Black" by Pearl Jam was the best song of the decade. "Rape Me" comes as a close second and I would argue it's much more visceral and poweerful. But no one could give a live performance like Nirvana. That was confirmed in their unplugged set which might be the best live performance caught on tape in that decade. Then he killed himself before I ever got the chance to see Nirvana live in person.

In some ways I think people forget how powerful Kurt Cobain and Nirvana was because you can't see them live anymore. It's a shame, but then again, I've always said that if I had to fuck Courtney Love on a regular basis, I'd blow my brains out too.

[willardhaven]

I can't tell if half of the people badmouthing bands are judging music in terms of their taste or whether or not the muscians are capable.

System of a Down, Rage Against the Machine and Panterra all feature at least one skillful member, from a technical standpoint.

I didn't know SOAD copied someone elses writing for their lyrics, kind of disappointing, even if it is Charles Manson.

[Nirvanaguy777]

i wish there was a , all these bands suck option because they are all pop punk emo garbage, if i had to pick id vote simple plan as the worst

[Nirvanaguy777]

the only band i never saw live that I wish I did was operation ivy, before my time, ive seen rancid but they arent as good as operation ivy in my opinion (3 of the memebers of opiv became rancid)

[Admiral Ackbar]

I'd have liked to see the Toadies Live when they were in their prime too.

[karmapolice]

They didnt copy...they got his permition to put his lyrics into songs...They wrote the music and everything...they are just Charles Manson poems...it kind of explains why some are so fuckin twisted...

[dcfox]

They didnt copy...they got his permition to put his lyrics into songs...They wrote the music and everything...they are just Charles Manson poems...it kind of explains why some are so shaq-fuin twisted...

I haven't heard the album so I maybe incorrect in assuming this, but I hate it when musicians try to glorify people like Charles Manson. Putting his poetry into music will only draw interest onto a person is best left forgotten.

[karmapolice]

Life is but a dream,
Drifting on a stream, a stream,
Consciously it seems,
All of what remains,
Ego brain,
Man made shame,
Shame, Love after it rains,
You see my pain is real,
Watch my world dissolve,
And pretend that none of us see the Fall,
As I turn to sand,
You took me by the hand,
And declared, that love prevails over all.
I am just a man,
Fighting other men,
For land, for land,
While I turn to sand,
In spite of the pain,
Ego brain,
Man made Shame,
Shame, Love after it rains,
You see my pain is real,
Watch my world dissolve,
And pretend that none of us see the Fall
As I turn to sand,
You took me by the hand,
And declared that love prevails over all.
All of what remains,
Ego brain,
Man made shame,
Shame, Love after it rains,
You see my pain is real,
Watch my world dissolve,
And pretend that none of us see the Fall,
As I turn to sand,
You took me by the hand,
And declared that love prevails over all.

That song is not about the government...Its about the fall of mankind...

hey're trying to build a prison,
They're trying to build a prison,

Following the rights movements
You clamped on with your iron fists,
Drugs became conveniently
Available for all the kids,
Following the rights movements
You clamped on with your iron fists,
Drugs became conveniently
Available for all the kids,

I buy my crack, my smack, my bitch,
Right here in Hollywood,

Nearly 2 million Americans are incarcerated
In the prison system,
Prison system of the U.S.

They're trying to build a prison,
They're trying to build a prison,
They're trying to build a prison, (for you and me to live in)
Another prison system,
Another prison system,
Another prison system. (for you and me to live in)

Minor drug offenders fill your prisons
You don't even flinch
All our taxes paying for your wars
Against the new non-rich,
Minor drug offenders fill your prisons
You don't even flinch
All our taxes paying for your wars
Against the new non-rich,

I buy my crack, my smack, my bitch,
Right here in Hollywood,

The percentage of Americans in the prison system
Prison system, has doubled since 1985,

They're trying to build a prison,
They're trying to build a prison,
They're trying to build a prison, (for you and me to live in)
Another prison system,
Another prison system,
Another prison system. (for you and me to live in)
For you and I, for you and I , for you and I.

They're trying to build a prison,
They're trying to build a prison,
They're trying to build a prison,
For you and me,
Oh baby, you and me.

All research and successful drug policy show
That treatment should be increased,
And law enforcement decreased,
While abolishing mandatory minimum sentences,
All research and successful drug policy show
That treatment should be increased,
And law enforcement decreased,
While abolishing mandatory minimum sentences.

Utilizing drugs to pay for secret wars around the world,
Drugs are now your global policy,
Now you police the globe,

I buy my crack, my smack, my bitch,
Right here in Hollywood,

Drug money is used to rig elections,
And train brutal corporate sponsored
Dictators around the world.

They're trying to build a prison,
They're trying to build a prison,
They're trying to build a prison, (for you and me to live in)
Another prison system,
Another prison system,
Another prison system. (for you and me to live in)
For you and I, for you and I , for you and I.
They're trying to build a prison,
They're trying to build a prison,
They're trying to build a prison,
For you and me,
Oh baby, you and me.

That is about the government...a difference isnt there?

I have a problem that I cannot explain,
I have no reason why it should've been so plain,
Have no questions but I sure have excuse,
I lack the reason why I should be so confused.

I know, how I feel when I'm around you,
I don't know, how I feel when I'm around you,
Around you.

Left a message but it ain't a bit of use,
I have some pictures, the wild might be the deuce,
Today you saw, you saw me, you explained,
Playin the show and running down the plane.

I know, how I feel when I'm around you,
I don't know, how I feel when I'm around you,
I know, how I feel when I'm around you,
I don't know, how I feel when I'm around you,
Around you,

I know, how I feel when I'm around you,
I don't know, how I feel when I'm around you,
I know, how I feel when I'm around you,
I don't know, how I feel when I'm around you,
Around you, Around you, Around you...

Thats about his girlfriend...if you listened to the music you would know...but obviously you only listened to the ones on the radio or the ones people told you too...you didnt bother to actually look into it and check em out for yourself...Rage Against the Machine has more songs not about politics than it does about politics...The only popular ones they had were about politics so that may be why you think they only sing/ryhme about politics...

[/b]

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

the only band i never saw live that I wish I did was operation ivy, before my time, ive seen rancid but they arent as good as operation ivy in my opinion (3 of the memebers of opiv became rancid)


im pretty sure it was only 2-the singer and bassist

op ivy is ska, rancid is punk. i liked operation ivy alot more than rancid but i only listen to rancid because of the crazy bassline(ala-black lung)

im seriously into all sides of punk----------punk-hardcore-ska-emo--------- and there hasnt been a NEW band in a few years that could fit any of those...........sure they can call themselves what they want, but they wont truly be that at the core. i would take jimmy eat world over some of that emo screamo shit anyday.

[karmapolice]

Actually dcfox...I think it is wrong to glorify him too...but I think he has a great mind...he may have done a horrible horrible thing but that doesnt mean we should forget him...His poems are wonderful (sick but awesome)...I think its cool that a band could take him poems and actually get the record printed and accepted...

[killswitch64]

Pantera fans aren't good to mess around with... The're the kind of people who do school shootings. So keep your hatred to yourself

I don't like them either.


I love Pantera (one of my top 5 bands of all time) and i've never done a school shooting. Just because someone listens to metal doesn't mean that they are screwed up in the head. Next time, think before posting an idiotic saying like that.

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

Lights out, GUERILLA radio

[Nirvanaguy777]

the only band i never saw live that I wish I did was operation ivy, before my time, ive seen rancid but they arent as good as operation ivy in my opinion (3 of the memebers of opiv became rancid)


im pretty sure it was only 2-the singer and bassist

op ivy is ska, rancid is punk. i liked operation ivy alot more than rancid but i only listen to rancid because of the crazy bassline(ala-black lung)

im seriously into all sides of punk----------punk-hardcore-ska-emo--------- and there hasnt been a NEW band in a few years that could fit any of those...........sure they can call themselves what they want, but they wont truly be that at the core. i would take jimmy eat world over some of that emo screamo shit anyday.

i dont listen too emo for various reasons, i listen too techno, ska, regee, some punk, swing, big band, some heavy metal (basically SOAD)
and I dont listen too rancid because they just seem very basic to me, none of there lyrics really effect me, now opiv had some amazing songs and lyrics if you really listen to them

[Vampire Hunter D]

Im with the who the hell is Shuvel and the they all suck crowd.

[karmapolice]

Lights out, GUERILLA radio

what does that mean? Are you helping me or dick?

[dcfox]

Pantera fans aren't good to mess around with... The're the kind of people who do school shootings. So keep your hatred to yourself

I don't like them either.


I love Pantera (one of my top 5 bands of all time) and i've never done a school shooting. Just because someone listens to metal doesn't mean that they are screwed up in the head. Next time, think before posting an idiotic saying like that.
I think he may have said that in a joking manner. But I found it strange that when the news of the Columbine shooters started to leak out, they were describing me to a tee and maybe other CAG as well. Listens to heavy metal, plays violent video games, watches movies like the matrix . . . and I'm sure none of us here have shot up a school yet.

[Rig]

I'm going to bed. Keep holding it down karmapolice620. I am with you 100% on this one.

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

karma knows what hes talking about, thats for sure.

[karmapolice]

I wish dick would reply

[pimp_daddy_smurf]

Lights out, GUERILLA radio

what does that mean? Are you helping me or dick?

im helping you.........people think all of their songs because of that song that everyone knows from tony hawk.....GUERILLA meaning the tactic.

[killswitch64]

I wasn't trying to be rude, it pisses me off when people blame all the bad shit in the world on video games, music, etc. plus its been a long stressful day at work. Didn't mean to offend anyone.

[dcfox]

I used to listen to Rage but had my own little boycott of their music after they burned the American flag at one of their shows, I think it might have been at Woodstock. When I was listening to them I really didn't care for their political message and only really listened to it because it sounded good. Musically they were a really talented group and I was a little disappointed when they broke up. AudioSlave really doesn't fill the shoes Rage left behind.

[karmapolice]

thank you pimp...It is true...people only recognize bands (most people) by there appearance in different mediums...music,magazines,movies, video games, or other things...try to expand your knowledge before talking trash...I have listened to the whole good charlette cd...all the blink 182's...all the creed...everyone I talk trash about Ive actually listened to their music...

[Xevious]

I stopped listening to radio around 1999(?) and I dont have cable and I am completely out of touch with whats considered popular culture.

Of all the bands on that list, the only band I recognized is Creed. I have not heard of the other bands.

I guess ignorance is bliss. Dont you agree?

[Goodtone]

First of all, I love most music and I am very open minded about most forms of music, melody and rhythms. I have played classical guitar since I was 8 years old and I am a serious musician. I know what it takes to be in a band and develop a talent in music. Not everyone can do it, but not everyone can go to the Olympics either. As far as these bands you guys are talking about....none of them suck, but some of them I prefer more that the others. Some have more talented members than the others in my opinion, but none are awful. They can all play their instruments and write songs. Obviously someone is buying and listening to their music because they are all selling CD's, touring, and making money. It's all about taste and what you are into. Here is my opinion:

Good Charlotte: decent band, good guitarist, great drummer, whiney vocals that are kind of generic and typical, a little gimicky, formulated songwriting with unoriginal aspects, will probably be forgotten about within a couple of years. their songs will NOT become classics......but they don't suck. I would not buy their CD's, but I would listen to them if a hot girl put the CD in my CD player.

Simple Plan: Generic sounding, whiney vocals, can play their instruments barely, they don't stand out as being really talented but maybe they will improve, they are unoriginal and I have heard it before done better by someone else...but they don't suck...they just need a few more years of developing, but I doubt they will get the chance to since they will prolly become forgotten within a year or so since pop punk is flooding the market and people are getting tired of it and looking for something different to listen to.

New Found Glory: They sound like 20 other bands out right now with some punk influences, they can play their instruments but are somewhat unoriginal and generic sounding, I have heard their sound before done by other bands before them, nothing special, but not terrible, won't last 2 more years and will be forgotten about within 5. I prefer to listen to Green Day over this band anyday.

Shuvel: Rap Rock is not really my favorite form of music but the drummer in this band rocks, bass player is compitent, I don't care for the vocals at all, I can't listen to this CD for more than 5 minutes without wanting to change it. I doubt this band will last more than one year....but that is only becuase of the lyrics and the vocals. The other band members could prolly join another band with no problem.

Creed: I don't care much for the "Eddie Vedder copycat" vocals, but the singer has some ok moments here and there. The guitarist is great and I doubt any of you will ever in your lifetime be as good as he is even if you start practicing 12 hours a day for the rest of your life. He is just that fricking good and has alot of natural ability that most of you will never have. It would be like trying to be better than an Olympic Gold medalist at their sport, you could practice the rest of your life and never be that good. I have seen him just pick up a guitar and jam by himself in front of a small few people. He is better than he might seem to be on the CD recordings. Pure Raw Talent. The songwriting is good and above your average signed rock band. The drummer is good and has a nice groove and feel to his playing. Bass playing is not bad, but he doesn't stand out as being some great innovative player like Les Claypool. This band will be remembered for a long time and at least one or more of their songs will be played on a classic radio station in 25 years and so on into the future. The new Alter Bridge CD is good and the guitar playing on it is the best part. Mark Tremonti can play the guitar and we will hear more from him in the future.

Story of the Year: great band with alot of energy and one of the best new bands to see live. They put on a great show and as far as pop punk goes, one of the better bands out there in this style. These guys can definitely play and the drummer is freaking amazing. Blink 182's drummer I think is on this guys level of playing. SEE THESE GUYS LIVE! I enjoy their CD. I bought it and I listen to it. Hopefully these guys will have a chance to grow and continue on. They have alot of potential.

System of a Down: Great band, great energy, I really like these guys alot. Great musicians. The vocals are not my favorite, but he has some great moments in some of the songs.

Pantera: Great band, the vocalist in Pantera is one of the most influential vocalists in heavy rock history. His vocals are completely brutal and very few singers have the incredible power that this guy has. This band is already going down in history as I write this as one of the best brutal power rock bands of all time. They will always be remembered.

[thatstoobad]

im seriously into all sides of punk----------punk-hardcore-ska-emo--------- and there hasnt been a NEW band in a few years that could fit any of those...........sure they can call themselves what they want, but they wont truly be that at the core. i would take jimmy eat world over some of that emo screamo shit anyday.

go listen to the paint it black record that came out last year (titled "cva"). it's straight up punk rock, and it straight up rocks.

anyway, i don't know if these are the worst bands ever, but as far as the "new" bands go, i really dislike the killers, franz ferdinand, taking back sunday, any of the bands on that list (though where the heck did you pull shuvel from, i mean, no one cared about them when they were actually still releasing music), maroon 5, interpol...eh, maybe that was a bad idea. there's a lot of bands that suck now, there's a lot of bands that suck from five years ago, there's a lot of bands that suck from ten years ago, and there's a lot of bands that sucked before that.

the problem is that as time goes by, it becomes easier and easier to record your own music, get a record deal and put out a record. heck, half the time you don't really need a record deal to get your music out there. sometimes it works out well, for instance, as some of you may know, iron & wine has done some really low budget home recording which is ended up being the first record, and that record totally destroys. but the problem is that there are too many kids out there who start bands that are trying to emulate bad bands, which results in (and i think i have said this before) something that ends up being like a bad game of telephone. it's like, if you start a band and you are trying to sound like led zepplin or something, at least you are trying to sound like something good. but if you start a band and are trying to sound like taking back sunday or thursday or incubus or something, then you are effed from the get-go.

[karmapolice]

Goodtone...you make some "ok" points...but they all your remarks sound the same to me...they sound like some "musical genious" trying to spout out his knowledge on music and "how it really works"...you up and coming musicians all sound the same...you all anilize music to the most minor detail...but when it comes down to it you really dont need too...and by saying the Blink 182 drummer is amazing...you lost all credit in everything you said...that guy is as overhyped as pop music...he sucks...big fucking deal he can play fast and play while spinning upside down...he has no talent...if you tried to put him in a jazz band and play along with some actually good drummers he would get thrown out of the club as fast as you can say "That guy is a horrible drummer"...Danny Carey is one of the few drummers in bands that are still "making it" that actually has some talent...Comparing the bass player to Les Claypool ay?...hmm thats like saying the guitar player for britney spears is no Steve Howe...thats just wrong....

Im sorry buddy...but you sound like every other musician from nashville(granted you may not be) trying to make an excuse as to why its ok to sell out...

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Of the ones listed, Creed.

U2 is still worse overall, along with aerosmith, kiss, van halen, and the rolling stones.

The above statement is not a joke.

[punqsux]

U2 is still worse overall, along with aerosmith, kiss, van halen, and the rolling stones.


i got it bad i got it bad i got it baddd, im hot for teacher XoD

i like u2, old areosmith rocks, old old kiss rocks, van halen with diamond dave rocks, and the rolling stones are the worst band in the history of music.

[karmapolice]

I agree with you sblymnlcrymnl except for the rolling stones...paint it black is awesome...that cd is awesome...other than that I dont like the rolling stones...kiss is the worst ever...van halen is pretty good though

[dcfox]

U2 is still worse overall, along with aerosmith, kiss, van halen, and the rolling stones.


i got it bad i got it bad i got it baddd, im hot for teacher XoD

i like u2, old areosmith rocks, old old kiss rocks, van halen with diamond dave rocks, and the rolling stones are the worst band in the history of music.

No love for Sammy Hagar :( I actually like both Dave lee Roth and Haggar. And to a lesser extent Gary Cherone.

[Zenithian Legend]

Oddly enough I think about half of those bands have at least one song that I like. I liked all those ANFG cover songs from movies, oh I think they did that song "Broken Soung" and a good cover of "Dressed to kill" eons ago though... now they're awful. I really liked "My Sacrifice" by Creed, for whatever reason. Then I like that Good Charlotte song "always" for sentimental reasons, but I just about hate everything else by them, so they win be default.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

I agree with you sblymnlcrymnl except for the rolling stones...paint it black is awesome...that cd is awesome...other than that I dont like the rolling stones...kiss is the worst ever...van halen is pretty good though

Yeah, Paint it Black is the only song of theirs that I like, and that's probably because Twisted Metal Black kicks so much fucking ass.

[Goodtone]

Goodtone...you make some "ok" points...but they all your remarks sound the same to me...they sound like some "musical genious" trying to spout out his knowledge on music and "how it really works"...you up and coming musicians all sound the same...you all anilize music to the most minor detail...but when it comes down to it you really dont need too...and by saying the Blink 182 drummer is amazing...you lost all credit in everything you said...that guy is as overhyped as pop music...he sucks...big shaq-fuing deal he can play fast and play while spinning upside down...he has no talent...if you tried to put him in a jazz band and play along with some actually good drummers he would get thrown out of the club as fast as you can say "That guy is a horrible drummer"...Danny Carey is one of the few drummers in bands that are still "making it" that actually has some talent...Comparing the bass player to Les Claypool ay?...hmm thats like saying the guitar player for britney spears is no Steve Howe...thats just wrong....

Im sorry buddy...but you sound like every other musician from nashville(granted you may not be) trying to make an excuse as to why its ok to sell out...

I am a professional musician. It's what I do for a living. I have a several Million dollar Recording studio in my house with equipment that makes Million plus selling CD's on a regular basis. I play guitar and sing in a kick ass hard rock band. I write, arrange, and produce music every day. It is not a hobby for me. It is who I am and what I do. I have been stalked by fans, begged for autographs, and worshiped by many. I might know a few things about music talent. The Drummer for Blink rocks and Jazz is not as hard as you think to play. I personally know Dave Weckl the greatest living Jazz drummer on earth and even he likes the drummer for Blink. Danny Carey is great, but Neal Peart came before he did and innovated the whole style that influenced Danny Carey. Even Danny himself has stated that in one particular interview from Modern Drummer magazine (I play through a Diezel VH-4 guitar amp which is a $5,000.00 amp the same one Adam Jones from TOOL plays through. You don't see them that often because they are VERY expensive, to most people. I have over $200,000 worth of amps in my collection alone: http://www.diezel.ch/en/products/vh4.php )

When I was comparing the bass player I meant he is just your basic "get the job done" bass player who only plays for the song and does not try to play out in front of the band like Les Claypool. Meaning he is not the focal point of the band but yet he plays what will not take your attention away from the song as a whole. Remember, just because you can blow your load all over the place doesn't make you a great musician. Being tasteful and knowing what to put in the right place is just as important. Maybe the bass player for Creed can rip all over the place, but you would never know it because he is playing simple and tasteful for what the song requires. Steve Howe is a great guitarist and I would only have one use for Britney Spears.

[TheUnsane1]

Goodtone...you make some "ok" points...but they all your remarks sound the same to me...they sound like some "musical genious" trying to spout out his knowledge on music and "how it really works"...you up and coming musicians all sound the same...you all anilize music to the most minor detail...but when it comes down to it you really dont need too...and by saying the Blink 182 drummer is amazing...you lost all credit in everything you said...that guy is as overhyped as pop music...he sucks...big shaq-fuing deal he can play fast and play while spinning upside down...he has no talent...if you tried to put him in a jazz band and play along with some actually good drummers he would get thrown out of the club as fast as you can say "That guy is a horrible drummer"...Danny Carey is one of the few drummers in bands that are still "making it" that actually has some talent...Comparing the bass player to Les Claypool ay?...hmm thats like saying the guitar player for britney spears is no Steve Howe...thats just wrong....

Im sorry buddy...but you sound like every other musician from nashville(granted you may not be) trying to make an excuse as to why its ok to sell out...

I am a professional musician. It's what I do for a living. I have a several Million dollar Recording studio in my house with equipment that makes Million plus selling CD's on a regular basis. I play guitar and sing in a kick ass hard rock band. I write, arrange, and produce music every day. It is not a hobby for me. It is who I am and what I do. I have been stalked by fans, begged for autographs, and worshiped by many. I might know a few things about music talent. The Drummer for Blink rocks and Jazz is not as hard as you think to play. I personally know Dave Weckl the greatest living Jazz drummer on earth and even he likes the drummer for Blink. Danny Carey is great, but Neal Peart came before he did and innovated the whole style that influenced Danny Carey. Even Danny himself has stated that in one particular interview from Modern Drummer magazine (I play through a Diezel VH-4 guitar amp which is a $5,000.00 amp the same one Adam Jones from TOOL plays through. You don't see them that often because they are VERY expensive, to most people. I have over $200,000 worth of amps in my collection alone: http://www.diezel.ch/en/products/vh4.php )

When I was comparing the bass player I meant he is just your basic "get the job done" bass player who only plays for the song and does not try to play out in front of the band like Les Claypool. Meaning he is not the focal point of the band but yet he plays what will not take your attention away from the song as a whole. Remember, just because you can blow your load all over the place doesn't make you a great musician. Being tasteful and knowing what to put in the right place is just as important. Maybe the bass player for Creed can rip all over the place, but you would never know it because he is playing simple and tasteful for what the song requires. Steve Howe is a great guitarist and I would only have one use for Britney Spears.
It's not that I don't believe your statement, but that is a rather large statement to make with no proof. You lead us to believe that some one of your wealth needs to search the net for bargins on videogames??? Come the Shaq-Fu on man prove it.

[Goodtone]

Come to my house and see for yourself or send someone that lives in Atlanta from this site to my recording studio and they will tell you. You can reach me through any one of the instant messaging links below:

Also, my video Game collection is sick, but my guitar collection is sicker

[thatstoobad]

I am a professional musician. It's what I do for a living. I have a several Million dollar Recording studio in my house with equipment that makes Million plus selling CD's on a regular basis. I play guitar and sing in a kick ass hard rock band. I write, arrange, and produce music every day. It is not a hobby for me. It is who I am and what I do. I have been stalked by fans, begged for autographs, and worshiped by many. I might know a few things about music talent. The Drummer for Blink rocks and Jazz is not as hard as you think to play. I personally know Dave Weckl the greatest living Jazz drummer on earth and even he likes the drummer for Blink. Danny Carey is great, but Neal Peart came before he did and innovated the whole style that influenced Danny Carey. Even Danny himself has stated that in one particular interview from Modern Drummer magazine (I play through a Diezel VH-4 guitar amp which is a $5,000.00 amp the same one Adam Jones from TOOL plays through. You don't see them that often because they are VERY expensive, to most people. I have over $200,000 worth of amps in my collection alone: http://www.diezel.ch/en/products/vh4.php )

When I was comparing the bass player I meant he is just your basic "get the job done" bass player who only plays for the song and does not try to play out in front of the band like Les Claypool. Meaning he is not the focal point of the band but yet he plays what will not take your attention away from the song as a whole. Remember, just because you can blow your load all over the place doesn't make you a great musician. Being tasteful and knowing what to put in the right place is just as important. Maybe the bass player for Creed can rip all over the place, but you would never know it because he is playing simple and tasteful for what the song requires. Steve Howe is a great guitarist and I would only have one use for Britney Spears.

let me point out a few things here:

a) i totally, wholeheartedly believe you sing and play guitar in a "kick ass" hard rock band. well, except maybe for the "kick ass" part.

b)it seems obvious to me that the drummer from blink 182 is a talented, good drummer.

c)being talented and competant does not mean you are a good band. look at the dummer for blink 182 (or the transplants, which are way, way worse).

d)i agree that it is important to know your role in a band, whether it be the lead singer, bass player or rhythm guitarist.

e) "tasteful" and "creed" probably shouldn't go in the same sentence. but then again, i'm not the one in the "kick ass" rock band, so what do i know?

[TheUnsane1]

Well since your a record producer how about some of the albums you worked on? You have been stalked I assume from your bands popularity, how about you hit us up with your bands web page? I am pretty sure the reply I will get will tell of how you don't want to expose yourself to our community based on the amount of feedback it would cause, but with out any of this info can you really blame people for calling BS here????

[Goodtone]

Well since your a record producer how about some of the albums you worked on? You have been stalked I assume from your bands popularity, how about you hit us up with your bands web page? I am pretty sure the reply I will get will tell of how you don't want to expose yourself to our community based on the amount of feedback it would cause, but with out any of this info can you really blame people for calling BS here????

Like I need to prove something to you...

[TheUnsane1]

Hey all I am saying is on the internet anyone is what ever the Shaq-fu they wanna say they are. With out any proof to these statements all they are is internet roleplaying. You can be your big shot record producer all you want buddy.

[Goodtone]

I never used the words "big shot". I was just giving my credentials to show that my statements of opinion on the topic where given by someone educated and experienced in the professional field. You can't just go around saying "this band sucks" or "they are the worst band". Fact is, those bands on the list are signed, they have a record deal and are selling records, people are listening to their music, people are going to their shows and chearing for them, asking them for autographs, supporting what they do, and buying their merchandise. For how long? Some bands longer than others which is always the case. Obviously saying someone is the worst band better be backed up with some serious reasons or it's just some uneducated person's opinion. I just thought it was time to get schooled on the facts. I get my ass kicked every day in Halo by my friends that are not in a band, so don't take it personally. Hopefully we are all good at something...

[kaji7p56]

Okay, I think it's time to reveal who I truly am:

Bill Clinton.

[Goodtone]

Okay, I think it's time to reveal who I truly am:

Bill Clinton.

Yes, Yes, we know who you are....now weren't there some new interns coming in soon? or did you run out of Crack yet? (inside joke, only Bill C. and I will get it)

[LV-426RS]

I never used the words "big shot". I was just giving my credentials ...

You gave us no credentials. Credentials would show proof that you do what you say you do, not spewing about someting anyone can look/make up.

[TheUnsane1]

Maybe you forgot this:


I am a professional musician. It's what I do for a living. I have a several Million dollar Recording studio in my house with equipment that makes Million plus selling CD's on a regular basis.
Thats an impressive thing if true and I would say that makes you some what of a "Big Shot" as I put it.

[Goodtone]

Do you know someone on this site that lives in Atlanta? Have them contact me and I will show them in person. It will be the only way to truly know. I am available any time this week.

[LV-426RS]

What kick-ass band to you play for?

[Goodtone]

There is a guy on here by the name of "organicow" who lives here in Atlanta. I don't know him, but I know he is also a musician around town. Have him contact me and then he could tell you if what I say is true or not.....

[Goodtone]

I never used the words "big shot". I was just giving my credentials to show that my statements of opinion on the topic where given by someone educated and experienced in the professional field. You can't just go around saying "this band sucks" or "they are the worst band". Fact is, those bands on the list are signed, they have a record deal and are selling records, people are listening to their music, people are going to their shows and chearing for them, asking them for autographs, supporting what they do, and buying their merchandise. For how long? Some bands longer than others which is always the case. Obviously saying someone is the worst band better be backed up with some serious reasons or it's just some uneducated person's opinion. I just thought it was time to get schooled on the facts. I get my ass kicked every day in Halo by my friends that are not in a band, so don't take it personally. Hopefully we are all good at something...

Read this again VERY carefully.

[LV-426RS]

Do you have your own personal airstrip? If so I'll jump in my personal jet and fly down. Or if you have a landing pad on the top of your house I can just use the old whirrly bird, but it may take a little longer to get there.

[Goodtone]

Do have your own personal corncobb up your ass? It sounds like it to us here in the studio...

[LV-426RS]

Oh wow, you're in studio right now? Write up a song real quick about that corcobb up my ass then record it, upload it and post a link. I'd love to hear your work.

[Goodtone]

Do have your own personal corncobb up your ass? It sounds like it to us here in the studio...

My bass player wrote that. He doesn't take to kindly to strangers that are trying to be sarcastic with no wit....

[Goodtone]

Oh wow, you're in studio right now? Write up a song real quick about that corcobb up my ass then record it, upload it and post a link. I'd love to hear your work.

What are you 14 or 15? Say something intelligent please.....This thread is about music, so what the fu.ck do you do that is so great? Get a high score in Ikaruga?

[dnt_h8me2]

just prove to everyone that your in a kick-ass rock band, and they'll all leave you alone.

[xzafixz]

Oh wow, you're in studio right now? Write up a song real quick about that corcobb up my ass then record it, upload it and post a link. I'd love to hear your work.

What are you 14 or 15? Say something intelligent please.....This thread is about music, so what the fu.ck do you do that is so great? Get a high score in Ikaruga?

To some people getting a high score in Ikaruga is more important than being in a rock band, so that statement was just as childish as you are trying to call someone else.

[Goodtone]

Like I said before..Do you know someone on this site that lives in Atlanta? Have them contact me and I will show them in person. It will be the only way to truly know. I am available any time this week.

and If I wished to be left alone, I wouldn't be on here.....

[Goodtone]

To some people getting a high score in Ikaruga is more important than being in a rock band, so that statement was just as childish as you are trying to call someone else.

we are playing Ikaruga right now on the 60 inch Fujitsu Plasma. That's why I said it to begin with you Jiffy Lube butt pirate. No one will remember or care what high score we made an hour from now, but they will remember our music years from now.

[dnt_h8me2]

Like I said before..Do you know someone on this site that lives in Atlanta? Have them contact me and I will show them in person. It will be the only way to truly know. I am available any time this week.

and If I wished to be left alone, I wouldn't be on here.....

but your still not proving anything. no one i know would go to some random strangers house ( who may or may not be a rockstar ) to check out his ''studio'', just to validate some online bulls*it.

[Goodtone]

Then who cares what I say? Because you wouldn't believe me unless you saw it with your own eyes (or someone you trust's eyes) anyways? I have nothing to prove, I just know what I am talking about when it comes to music. I give fair, educated opinions in music. I don't just say "they suck" or they're "the worst band ever" like some little jealous wannabee would.

[xzafixz]

Then who cares what I say? Because you wouldn't believe me unless you saw it with your own eyes (or someone you trust's eyes) anyways? I have nothing to prove, I just know what I am talking about when it comes to music. I give fair, educated opinions in music. I don't just say "they suck" or their "the worst band ever" like some little jealous wannabee would.

They're. Guess they don't teach english where you went to college?

[Goodtone]

They taught Art actually and I changed it before you posted this you little anime queen boy

[Goodtone]

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They're. Guess they don't teach english where you went to college?

Always gotta talk some smack first don't you XZAFUXZ? I guess you didn't learn your lesson the last time. You are asking for more abuse?

[xzafixz]

Don't you have records to be recording instead of making fun of low lifes on the internet? Does it make you feel better to point out the short commings of others? Just because you think music is better than anime doesn't mean it sucks, those people have talent too, and since you went to art school you should know all about how hard it is to make animation wouldn't you? I find it hard to believe anything you say when it is all so hipocritical.

[xzafixz]

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They're. Guess they don't teach english where you went to college?

Always gotta talk some smack first don't you XZAFUXZ? I guess you didn't learn your lesson the last time. You are asking for more abuse?

My name is xzafixz. Guess they didn't teach typing either? And yea, looking for more abuse, yawn. Go make records or something anime queens aren't worth it.

[Goodtone]

Right now as we type this, I am playing Ikaruga with the guitarist of this band and my bass player

www.smugface.com

I am NOT in this band, but I recorded and worked on some of the demos that got them signed. Their new band name is City Sleeps. Their new website is going to be Citysleeps.NET

Adriel is the guitarist, one of my best friends, and one of my guitar students.

You will hear about them when their debut CD comes out in Febuary produced by legendary producer John Feldman. They are going to be HUGE! You heard it first here.

That is all I am saying now because I don't care if you know who I am. If you want to know so bad, come to my house and see for yourself like I said before. I am easy to find, everyone knows me around here in Atlanta.

[Goodtone]

My name is xzafixz. Guess they didn't teach typing either? And yea, looking for more abuse, yawn. Go make records or something anime queens aren't worth it.

You are still just a little FUX to me...don't you get it ever? I did that on purpose because you are a FUX looking for a quick cox za FIX

[Goodtone]

http://www.dragoncon.org/

[Goodtone]

ok now we are playing Gradius V on the 60 inch Fujitsu Plasma. Adriel says to look at this site if the main smugface site isn't working:

http://www.smugface.8m.com/

[Goodtone]

Don't you have records to be recording instead of making fun of low lifes on the internet? Does it make you feel better to point out the short commings of others? Just because you think music is better than anime doesn't mean it sucks, those people have talent too, and since you went to art school you should know all about how hard it is to make animation wouldn't you? I find it hard to believe anything you say when it is all so hipocritical.

You might want to go talk to a Psychiatrist. He may be able to help you with these issues you are having. It sounds like to us that you may have a few issues that you need to work out.........Really

You just aren't making any sense and your run on sentences are worse than a 3rd grader....Hopefully you will get some help and become a useful citizen in the workplace.

and your spelling of "hipocritical" is wrong. Here is the correct dictionary spelling while you are getting schooled:
hyp·o·crit·i·cal
Pronunciation: "hi-p&-'kri-ti-k&l
Function: adjective
: characterized by hypocrisy; also : being a hypocrite
- hyp·o·crit·i·cal·ly /-k(&-)lE/ adverb

Touche you cocksmoker...

...and in case you don't know what that means, here's the definition:

tou·ché
Pronunciation: tü-'shA
Function: interjection
Etymology: French, from past participle of toucher, from Old French tuchier
-- used to acknowledge a hit in fencing or the success or appropriateness of an argument, an accusation, or a witty point

I am sure you already know the definition of "cocksmoker" since you do it everyday....

[jmcc]

You might want to go talk to a Psychiatrist. He may be able to help you with these issues you are having. It sounds like to us that you may have a few issues that you need to work out.........Really

Too...much...irony...

[Goodtone]

Too...much...irony...

"Thank you....I mean it...Thank you..huh..."

http://www.atari.net/sites/goodtone/ThankYouImeanit.jpg

[jmcc]

Too...much...irony...

"Thank you....I mean it...Thank you..huh..."

http://www.atari.net/sites/goodtone/ThankYouImeanit.jpg

Oh no. You seem to have misunderstood me. The irony I was speaking of is this successful persona that you've created for the internet telling someone else that they need psyciatric help. As a person who loves delicious irony this is a particularly filling meal. It's strong dual flavors of hilarity and sadness are exquisite.

[Goodtone]

taste this:

http://www.atari.net/sites/goodtone/goodtone_studio.jpg

Note the action figure on the recording console is the same as my avatar.....

[jmcc]

That's a one of a kind doll, is it?

[Goodtone]

and you might like a little of this to go with your meal....

http://www.atari.net/sites/goodtone/goodtone_studio_2.jpg

Note the $10,000 Exotic wood Drum Workshop drumset....This room looks into the window of the other photo I posted...These are just 2 of many rooms in my studio...

[jmcc]

Nice, but there's no frame of reference here. You're going to have to write your name on the wall or something.

[Goodtone]

The frame of reference is the Avatar and the action figure...which has been my avatar since i have been on here... It is a Medicom Phantom in case you don't know....

http://www.atari.net/sites/goodtone/goodtone_studio3.jpg

[jmcc]

Could be coincidence. Come on, write your name on the wall.

[Goodtone]

as seen here: http://www.artoftoy.com/phanofparwae.html

http://www.atari.net/sites/goodtone/medicomphantom5.jpg

Only 666 made...

http://www.atari.net/sites/goodtone/medicom_phantom.jpg

http://www.atari.net/sites/goodtone/Phantom_himself.jpg

[Goodtone]

Yes, right....666 total rare action figures worldwide that sell for over $300 each and one just happens to be in someone elses recording studio...and be the same rare character that I have been using for my Avatar the whole time I have been on CAG..I don't think so....There is your proof....just face it...but it's only the tip of the iceburg.....You should be so lucky to see the rest of the studio....Where the guitar amps are....I may post that later with more proof.....just suck on these for awhile and maybe you will see more........I don't think your tiny non-believer brains can handle too much at once...maybe you have never met a "real" person before....This time it's "for real"... I know some of you still haven't gotten over the Santa Claus thing, but you must move on from that experience and start believing some people and your life may get better.......Gradius V rocks!

[MrBadExample]

Wow! Who would've thought a Worst Band topic would descend into a flame war...

[Goodtone]

some of these wannabees just need a little schoolin', that's all........They talk their smack and they can't even play a note much less a chord, let alone write a song or play in a band....Hell, they would get laughed off the American Idol auditions

[Wombat]

I was kind of enjoying it, I dont know why I always find futile anger funny, I hope they are not finished yet

[Goodtone]

They seem to have tucked their tails between their legs and run away like the little sissies they are...I think they have been silenced for the time being....It's like someone that works the cash register at McDonalds telling Donald Trump he doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to business.

[MrBadExample]

Goodtone, I gotta give you props just for the Devo sig.

[Goodtone]

Thanks, I am glad someone here appreciates good music...Devo has always been one of my favorites..very original and unique for sure.....

[jmcc]

I guess I can finally reveal my identity: I am, in fact, Dr. Awesome Q. Worldsaver, DDS. During the week I maintain a dentistry practice of hundreds, but on the weekends I travel the world in my flying superfortress. I save millions of lives and am stalked by numerous villains and petty dictators for my justice-bringing abilities. So, in my expert opinion, Creed sucks.

[jmcc]

Thanks, I am glad someone here appreciates good music...Devo has always been one of my favorites..very original and unique for sure.....

Actually Devo just called. They asked that you please don't listen to their music anymore, as you like Creed.

[Goodtone]

Yes, and you play as "Arseface" on Fable :rofl:

FACE IT, YOU WERE SCHOOLED AND NOW ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY IS COMPLETE NONSENSE BECAUSE YOU ARE TRYING TO GET OFF THE REAL SUBJECT HERE, ARSEFACE...

I like ALL music I am not closed minded and I enjoy alot more in life that way

[jmcc]

Yes, and you play as "Arseface" on Fable :rofl:

Sometimes I wonder why I do it all... I fought radioactive scorpion beasts in the Yucatan peninsula last weekend and this is the thanks I get? Backtalk from Scott Stapp fanboy? Oh why am I cursed with this empathy for people?! I'm going to pose this question to Vandu, my superintelligent chimpanzee friend.

Edit: What? My claims are just as credible as yours, Bruce Dickinson.

[Goodtone]

Creed: I don't care much for the "Eddie Vedder copycat" vocals, but the singer has some ok moments here and there. The guitarist is great and I doubt any of you will ever in your lifetime be as good as he is even if you start practicing 12 hours a day for the rest of your life. He is just that fricking good and has alot of natural ability that most of you will never have. It would be like trying to be better than an Olympic Gold medalist at their sport, you could practice the rest of your life and never be that good. I have seen him just pick up a guitar and jam by himself in front of a small few people. He is better than he might seem to be on the CD recordings. Pure Raw Talent. The songwriting is good and above your average signed rock band. The drummer is good and has a nice groove and feel to his playing. Bass playing is not bad, but he doesn't stand out as being some great innovative player like Les Claypool. This band will be remembered for a long time and at least one or more of their songs will be played on a classic radio station in 25 years and so on into the future. The new Alter Bridge CD is good and the guitar playing on it is the best part. Mark Tremonti can play the guitar and we will hear more from him in the future.



If you had half a Fu.ck.ing brain you would have read my original post about Creed that says I don't care much for the vocals, so I am not even close to a "Stapp Fanboy". You just are a dumbfu.ck aren't you.?.....Survey says...Yes is the number one answer to this question.

I will say it again, even though I doubt you will comprhend it with your closed dumbfu.ck mind: I like all types of music. I try to give things a chance rather than just saying "they suck". You obviously don't understand that type of thinking since you are a tooth and ass driller...

[jmcc]

Creed: I don't care much for the "Eddie Vedder copycat" vocals, but the singer has some ok moments here and there. The guitarist is great and I doubt any of you will ever in your lifetime be as good as he is even if you start practicing 12 hours a day for the rest of your life. He is just that fricking good and has alot of natural ability that most of you will never have. It would be like trying to be better than an Olympic Gold medalist at their sport, you could practice the rest of your life and never be that good. I have seen him just pick up a guitar and jam by himself in front of a small few people. He is better than he might seem to be on the CD recordings. Pure Raw Talent. The songwriting is good and above your average signed rock band. The drummer is good and has a nice groove and feel to his playing. Bass playing is not bad, but he doesn't stand out as being some great innovative player like Les Claypool. This band will be remembered for a long time and at least one or more of their songs will be played on a classic radio station in 25 years and so on into the future. The new Alter Bridge CD is good and the guitar playing on it is the best part. Mark Tremonti can play the guitar and we will hear more from him in the future.



If you had half a Fu.ck.ing brain you would have read my original post about Creed that says I don't care much for the vocals, so I am not even close to a "Stapp Fanboy". You just are a dumbfu.ck aren't you.?.....Survey says...Yes is the number one answer to this question.

Shh! Your membership in the fanclub is going to be revoked if you keep talking like that! And then what will you have? I'll tell you what: Chad Kroeger from Nickelback. That's no way to go through life...

[Goodtone]

www.youhavebadtasteinmusic.com

You seem to be doing a good job............................................... ....................

Making a fool out of yourself......like this guy:

www.youhavebadtasteinmusic.com

[crystalklear64]

Good Charolette. End.

[Goodtone]

Good Charolette. End.

Never heard of that band


....Oh you mean G-O-O-D C-H-A-R-L-O-T-T-E?
and what grade level did you make it to without the "speak and spell" that you pawned for crack?

[thatstoobad]

FACE IT, YOU WERE SCHOOLED AND NOW ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY IS COMPLETE NONSENSE BECAUSE YOU ARE TRYING TO GET OFF THE REAL SUBJECT HERE, ARSEFACE...

i said it before, so i'll say it again. i don't doubt that you are in a band, i don't doubt that you have nice recording equipment, and i don't doubt that you sing and play guitar and all that fancy stuff. however, i do doubt that you are actually in a "kick ass" band.

throughout your posts, you seem to be equating talent with the ability to write good songs and that bands who can play their instruments well are therefore good bands. well you're wrong. while being a good musician is important, it's not the only thing. you can look at bands that are very competant and talented, yet their songs suck, their music sucks, they suck. likewise (though not as often), you can look at some bands that have members that may be quite up to snuff, yet their songs make up for it. you seem to have lost the important part, which is the music, not the people making it.

smugface sucks, by the way. i'm not talking about their ability as musicians, mind you, i'm just talking about the fact that the music they create is boring and derivitive and the world could go on, and probably be a better place, without it. oh, and when's the singer of cold actually putting out that record? wasn't that like 2 years ago when they were working on a new record? i'm ok with it never coming out, since we really don't need more crappy music nowadays.

dare i say, mr. goodtone, that you have bad taste in music.

[KrazyKefka]

I saw the topic title and instantly thought "Good Charlotte."

So did I.

[Goodtone]

smugface sucks, by the way. i'm not talking about their ability as musicians, mind you, i'm just talking about the fact that the music they create is boring and derivitive and the world could go on, and probably be a better place, without it. oh, and when's the singer of cold actually putting out that record? wasn't that like 2 years ago when they were working on a new record? i'm ok with it never coming out, since we really don't need more crappy music nowadays.
dare i say, mr. goodtone, that you have bad taste in music.

Like you have ever heard smugface..much less have the educated knowledge to say "they suck" BTW they have changed their name to "City Sleeps" so remember that when the CD is released in Febuary 2005...So what do you do that is so great? What makes what you say stand up to my accomplishments? I have several Gold and Platinum records on my wall to show for what I have accomplished. What do you have? A "kick ass" video game collection? Well, I have that also arsewipe.....

[SneakyPenguin]

Is everyone quite done bickering? Stay on subject, or I will strike down with great vengence and furious anger. And you will KNOW that I am a mod, when I lock this thread before thee.

My 2 cents, Creed wasn't that bad (not great), but I don't care for the rest.

[Goodtone]

Yes, what he said.......stay on the subject and make your point valid with some reasons for your opinion or you are just talking smack...Nothing wrong with a good debate, but have something valid to say please......... THANK YOU SNEAKY PENGUIN!! What is this site coming to? You get some decent people around here and the lowlife's try to run 'em off

[thatstoobad]

Like you have ever heard smugface..much less have the educated knowledge to say "they suck" BTW they have changed their name to "City Sleeps" so remember that when the CD is released in Febuary 2005...So what do you do that is so great? What makes what you say stand up to my accomplishments? I have several Gold and Platinum records on my wall to show for what I have accomplished. What do you have? A "kick ass" video game collection? Well, I have that also arsewipe.....

see, here we go. now you are trying to argue that i have never heard smugface, in their glory of staind-meets-cold-meets-something-even-more-boring. i've known about the band for like 3 or 4 years. i knew about the guy from cold that was "helping" them, though nothing came out of that obviously. of the song's that i have heard from them (which hasn't been for a while, so i suppose it's possible that they have changed their sound to become more trendy and with the current times, do i sense some new wave influences? skinny ties? or maybe they're "hardcore" now), one of the songs was called "paintbrush" or something similiar, and the chorus talked about colors. so, even though you'll probably dismiss what i'm saying as "oh well you can only think of one song from a long time ago so you don't really know", understand that i do know what i am talking about, because if i didn't, well, i wouldn't be talking about it then.

i never contended that i have anything to measure up to your many gold and platinum records that you have hanging around your studio. i never suggested that i have anything to compare to you expensive, incredible, astounding studio that you have. heck, i don't even have that "kick ass" of a video game collection. what i do know that i have a good knowledge of the rock and roll music, and i would be willing to bet a dollar, yes a whole dollar, on the fact that your band is anything but "kick ass".

since this thread is about musical taste, not musical merit, i'd like to hear some of your favorite bands. not zepplin and pink floyd, the beatles or any other "safe" answers, either, favorite CURRENT bands that are still releasing records.

[SneakyPenguin]

Maybe yo missed it, so here it is again:

Is everyone quite done bickering? Stay on subject, or I will strike down with great vengence and furious anger. And you will KNOW that I am a mod, when I lock this thread before thee.

One more problem, and it's locked.

[TheUnsane1]

As the poster of the original post that turned all this into a flame war I would like to appologize to goodtone for starting all of this. It was not my intention to cause this much of an arguement over something that in the grand scheme of things makes no difference. Every one in the thread has and is entitled to their own opinion. It does seem however that choosing the words "Suck" or "Worst" in the thread more often means that the poster doesn't like said band. Every band signed to a record deal has talent in some way even if that talent is coniving their way into a contract. For any band to get signed some one has to like them and for everyone who likes something there is some one else who doesn't.

[jmcc]

The true test of music's badness for me is "will I turn this artist or group off if they come on the radio." I can think of very few examples of music I dislike enough to expend the effort to move my arm and change stations. That's not to say I'd buy their albums or whatnot, but hating something enough to call it "worst" would denote a significant emotional investment against the group in question, something that I can't claim against most pop music, derivative though much of it is.

And Goodtone, you know I'm just f.ucking with you, right? There's no ill will on my part, I just like to jerk people around in overblown popularity contests such as this one. You just made a fun target, since you seemed to be taking it too seriously. I mean, come on, this whole thing is a step above "Bee Gees suck! KISS Army forever!"

[jmcc]

Maybe yo missed it, so here it is again:

Is everyone quite done bickering? Stay on subject, or I will strike down with great vengence and furious anger. And you will KNOW that I am a mod, when I lock this thread before thee.

One more problem, and it's locked.

Well...I was going to mention that my coffee is kinda cold, but now I guess I won't...

[KrazyKefka]

I guess I can finally reveal my identity: I am, in fact, Dr. Awesome Q. Worldsaver, DDS. During the week I maintain a dentistry practice of hundreds, but on the weekends I travel the world in my flying superfortress. I save millions of lives and am stalked by numerous villains and petty dictators for my justice-bringing abilities. So, in my expert opinion, Creed sucks.

:rofl:

[Wombat]

hey, there is no reason to get the Bee Gees involved.

[Goodtone]

This is not goodtone talking on this single posting here..This is Adriel from Smugface which is now officially callled "City Sleeps". You can say what you want about my band, but I have been in the recording studio with John Feldman working on my band's first full length CD. We got a record deal from Maverick (Madonna's Label) and John Feldman is producing us. He is the singer/guitarist from the band Goldfinger and he has produced The Used, Story of the Year, M.E.S.T., and Good Charlotte. Our new CD will break new ground and has a new hard rock sound along the lines of Faith No More (Angeldust) meets Jeff Buckley. If you heard our stuff from 2 years ago, those were just demos that we did on a small budget until goodtone started helping us out. Scooter never helped us and we have nothing to do with the band "Cold". So that information you have is false. I ought to know because I am IN the band and people start rumors like this that aren't true. I don't want to argue with anyone because I have much better things to do. Just know this....I am in a signed band making money playing and writing music..I get to do what I love every day and get paid lots of money for it. You can talk all the crap you want, but ultimately, it will only help me sell records and I will make more money to buy more stuff and have a very comfortable life. Ever heard the saying "even bad publicity is good publicity"? well it works really good like that so just keep talking all you want about my band. I have enough people that really enjoy my music to make it all worth it anyways.....peace out...Adriel from "City Sleeps" formerly known a s "Smugface"

[Goodtone]

This is goodtone back again.....someone said what am I listening to? OK

The last 3 days I have listened to

Dredg, The Juliana Theory, Vinnie Moore, Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Janes Addiction, A Perfect Circle, and Year of the Rabbit..

My music taste covers a wide range...I am an open minded person and I like most music as long as it is sincere.

[MorbidAngel4Life]

I used to like Shuvel, So i will say I can't stand the rest of them.

[evilpenguin9000]

I'm saying Creed tops this list, but they all suck and should be destroyed.

[DigitalSpace]

Since Hoobastank was left out, I picked Story Of The Year. Good Charlotte was a very close second.

[crazytalkx]

Its pretty damn hard to pick the lesser of six evils but I'll pick Story of the Year. IMO they all equally suck.

[Puzznic]

I absolutely hate Puddle of Mudd and Nickelback. I get them consused with one another but they are both horrible.

And it is stupid for the guy earlier to say that because some band got signed your not allowed to say they suck. Movies, for example get greenlighted all the time by major studios and many of them do in fact suck. That doesn't mean that alot of talented people didn't pour their hearts into them. Some things just don't come together in the end. Its all opinion obviously but a Beavis and Butthead quote says it all. "If some things didn't suck, how would you know when something was cool?"

[Goodtone]

You people are so intelligent........I just do not know what to say any more after that last comment... Maybe you should all just stick to huffing gas...because with the few brain cells that you have, maybe it just doesn't matter any more. You might as well have fun with the few brain cells you have left! Blow it out and have a Carbon cleaner and Gas huffing Party! Invite all your friends to join in on the festivities. It will be great fun and you will be "Cool" and the envy of your neighborhood playground. Then it will not matter even more that you cannot carry on an intelligent conversation because all that matters is that you are "Huffing down at the party playground". Which just happens to be a new Rancid song (which is a band that I know you people that thinks things "suck" really love alot).......Party on people and enjoy your lives..have fun listening to your Offspring CD's and watching Beavis and Butthead.....Later...we gotz things to do...

[xzafixz]

You people are so intelligent........I just do not know what to say any more after that last comment... Maybe you should all just stick to huffing gas...because with the few brain cells that you have, maybe it just doesn't matter any more. You might as well have fun with the few brain cells you have left! Blow it out and have a Carbon cleaner and Gas huffing Party! Invite all your friends to join in on the festivities. It will be great fun and you will be "Cool" and the envy of your neighborhood playground. Then it will not matter even more that you cannot carry on an intelligent conversation because all that matters is that you are "Huffing down at the party playground". Which just happens to be a new Rancid song (which is a band that I know you people that thinks things "suck" really love alot).......Party on people and enjoy your lives..have fun listening to your Offspring CD's and watching Beavis and Butthead.....Later...we gotz things to do...

No matter what you say and how much it makes sense, there will always be people that are so close-minded that they decide something sucks without even giving it a chance. It is rediculious but what can you do? There is no point in trying to reason so just let them think what they want, because any attention they get will only fuel their desire to say more stupid shit.

[zewone]

Party on people and enjoy your lives..have fun listening to your Offspring CD's and watching Beavis and Butthead.....Later...we gotz things to do...

And who do you think is so great that anyone who likes Beavis and Butthead and Offspring are idiots? Talking about being close minded and your doing the same thing right here. People have different tastes and some of them happen to have what you or I would consider "bad taste" in music or television shows but I'm sure what we like is also considered to "suck" to them so it really is a pointless argument, but infering that someone is stupid or ignorant because of it is ignorant.

[thatstoobad]

Party on people and enjoy your lives..have fun listening to your Offspring CD's and watching Beavis and Butthead.....Later...we gotz things to do...

And who do you think is so great that anyone who likes Beavis and Butthead and Offspring are idiots? Talking about being close minded and your doing the same thing right here. People have different tastes and some of them happen to have what you or I would consider "bad taste" in music or television shows but I'm sure what we like is also considered to "suck" to them so it really is a pointless argument, but infering that someone is stupid or ignorant because of it is ignorant.

you know, i was all fired up about this guy when i was posting my comments yesterday, but that died like 5 minutes after his buddy from the crappy band (that admitted to being another faith no more rip off, by the way) posted. he just doesn't get it, but whatever. i'm not going to bother with the ridiculous statements that he posted.

i do agree with him that rancid totally sucks, though. especially nowadays.

[Mr. Anderson]

Goodtone, let me give you a small piece of advice. When it comes to music, don't challenge thatstoobad. His incredulous mix of swarminess and vast musical knowledge have no weaknesses. Back away slowly, and bow your head.

[paz9x]

I had a few words with benji from good charlotte outside a show a couple years ago, he is one genuinley nice guy. I think that bands image is just stupid but hes a really nice guy.
Also the NFG guys are good people. theyve done a huge amount for my friends band just because theyre nice. my friends van full of equipment got jacked right before a tour and NFG offered to fly them out to their tour stop take car of transportation and help them out with new equipment.
good guys.

[DigitalSpace]

I wasn't going to post this, but since it seems the thread is going downhill again, here goes.


LOOK AT ME I AM GRATE!!!!11

Look at my recording studio and limited edition action figure. I AM BETTER THAN YOU. Don't believe me? I've got gold and platinum records! What have you got? EVERYTHING I SAY IS RIGHT AND IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE WRONG AND STUPID. ALL THE GOLD AND PLATINUM RECORDS SAY SO!!!

Congrats, you've made an ass of yourself. Go take your ego and "holier than thou" BS somewhere else, kthx.

Side note - I have no doubt you're a producer. In fact, I'm wondering if you've worked with one or more of the bands listed in the poll, and you're trying to defend them. You've made some respectable points in this thread, but insulting others for theirs is crossing the line.

This is why I don't discuss music that much anymore.

[willardhaven]

I wasn't going to post this, but since it seems the thread is going downhill again, here goes.

Goodtone basically wrote:

LOOK AT ME I AM GRATE!!!!11

Look at my recording studio and limited edition action figure. I AM BETTER THAN YOU. Don't believe me? I've got gold and platinum records! What have you got? EVERYTHING I SAY IS RIGHT AND IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE WRONG AND STUPID. ALL THE GOLD AND PLATINUM RECORDS SAY SO!!!


Congrats, you've made an ass of yourself. Go take your ego and "holier than thou" BS somewhere else, kthx.

Side note - I have no doubt you're a producer. In fact, I'm wondering if you've worked with one or more of the bands listed in the poll, and you're trying to defend them. You've made some respectable points in this thread, but insulting others for theirs is crossing the line.

This is why I don't discuss music that much anymore.

My sentiments exactly, I don't even have to post now : )

[SneakyPenguin]

Ok, that's it, no one stopped, so I am forced to lock this retarded flame war.