Christopher Reeve.. dead.

[Scorch]

www.drudgereport.com

Nikki Finke in Los Angeles is reporting that actor Christopher Reeve is dead, according to sources close to the actor. He died suddenly Sunday. News of his death has not been reported publicly yet. His family will make an announcement Monday at the earliest. Reeve was just mentioned Friday in the second live presidential debate by John Kerry. Noting he was a friend of the paralysed Reeve, Kerry said he was in favor of further stem cell research because Reeve could walk again one day thanks to such science.... MORE...

Please, God.. dont let this be true..

[thatstoobad]

He died suddenly Sunday.

this sounds like the work of hack-man.

[Trakan]

Hopefully not true, but if it is, RIP.

[dafoomie]

Have heard nothing about this, can not find any other sources to confirm. I doubt it. But it is late so if its true, we'll certainly hear tomorrow morning. Hopefully he's ok.

Someone that did die today though is Ken Caminitti, former NL MVP.

[Murcielago77]

may he RIP and RIP to Ken Caminitti a player who was good at one point of his carrer

[zzl365]

Yeah, I haven't heard it anywhere else either, but drudgereport is where many major news outlets get their news from, very sad, but probably true.

[zewone]

How reliable is drudgereport.com ? I hope this is just some sick joke.

[guyver2077]

o man that sucks...rop and how did caminiti die?

[dafoomie]

drudgereport is not very reliable, though they don't really make stuff up either.

Nikki Finke is a hollywood gossip columnist so I dunno how reliable she is either, or if its even really her reporting it.

Caminitti had a heart attack, he was 41. He admitted to using steroids as a player and violated his probation by testing positive for cocaine, so you can probably guess why it happened.

[CaseyRyback]

o man that sucks...rop and how did caminiti die?

heart attack

[Scorch]

drudgereport is not very reliable, though they don't really make stuff up either.

Kinda contradictory, no? If they never make up stuff, then they're reliable. Drudge usually gets ahold of big stories like this.. I really hope that it's not true..

[dafoomie]

Kinda contradictory, no? If they never make up stuff, then they're reliable. Drudge usually gets ahold of big stories like this.. I really hope that it's not true..
No, you can not make stuff up, and still be either wrong or decieved by someone. They may not have made it up but someone else could have.

[zionoverfire]

I hope its not true, but then what on the Drudge report has been in the last few months?

[punqsux]

ok im trying to make this post as inoffensive as possible, so please dont flame, theres no ill will meant.

why do people take celebrity deaths so hard? i am not saying it isnt sad that they die, and i wish their families the best, my question is why do you guys care so much about christopher reeve or rodney dangerfeild, or any celebrity that dies? i can see if youre a huge fan of theirs, so if thats it, i understand (i was a huge nirvana fan, well, still am..) but im just curious why everyone is begging for this to be a joke (other than the fact that a human would still be alive) because people die everyday, and ive never understood the whole celebrity thing...

if anyone understood what i said, go you ^^

[yeahokthenfu]

damn, guess Em can make puns at Chris anymore, RIP Superman

[SneakyPenguin]

ok im trying to make this post as inoffensive as possible, so please dont flame, theres no ill will meant.

why do people take celebrity deaths so hard? i am not saying it isnt sad that they die, and i wish their families the best, my question is why do you guys care so much about christopher reeve or rodney dangerfeild, or any celebrity that dies? i can see if youre a huge fan of theirs, so if thats it, i understand (i was a huge nirvana fan, well, still am..) but im just curious why everyone is begging for this to be a joke (other than the fact that a human would still be alive) because people die everyday, and ive never understood the whole celebrity thing...

if anyone understood what i said, go you ^^

I know exactly what you mean. I really don't like how celebritys are made more important to the masses, even in death. this is stilla great loss, but so is every death, every day.

[Scorch]

Punq, I understand. It's just people were hoping for a recovery.. I think there was even a computer generated video of him walking again.. or in some commercial.. and it was amazing. It's the sudden ones that are the worst.. but any death is hard.

[Kirin Lemon]

Confirmed. A piece on Fox News is airing as I type this.

Edit: It's being reported that he went into cardiac arrest, and fell into a coma on Saturday. He was only 52.

[dcfox]

RIP Christopher Reeves + Ken Caminiti

[x0thedeadzone0x]

We should make a thread about all the deaths in Iraq and keep a death count.

[dafoomie]

I only say I hope its not true because its polite. You don't hope for anyone to die (well, most anyone).

Whenever I hear about something happening to anyone, I hope they're ok, unless they're a child molestor or something.

CNN just reported he's dead BTW.

[helava]

Personally, I'm saddened because Christopher Reeve was a very strong example to many people suffering from debilitating injuries - he always had a positive outlook, and he always believed things would get better. I donated to a cause that he was supporting several years ago, and continued to receive mail from his foundation, which supported a lot of excellent causes. I'm sad because I wanted him to succeed - I wanted him to walk again, as he believed he would, before he died.

seppo

[Tromack]

ok im trying to make this post as inoffensive as possible, so please dont flame, theres no ill will meant.

why do people take celebrity deaths so hard? i am not saying it isnt sad that they die, and i wish their families the best, my question is why do you guys care so much about christopher reeve or rodney dangerfeild, or any celebrity that dies? i can see if youre a huge fan of theirs, so if thats it, i understand (i was a huge nirvana fan, well, still am..) but im just curious why everyone is begging for this to be a joke (other than the fact that a human would still be alive) because people die everyday, and ive never understood the whole celebrity thing...

if anyone understood what i said, go you ^^

I know exactly what you mean. I really don't like how celebritys are made more important to the masses, even in death. this is stilla great loss, but so is every death, every day.

In some ways aren't celebrities more important than the regular masses. When people like Einstein, Ghandhi, or Mother Teresa died, you could say its a tragedy because they contributed so much to society, whether it was scientific knowledge or good will. When a celebrity dies its almost the same thing. They had talent or some other trait which distinguished them from the rest of society that they shared and now are no longer to do so. If a guy like me were to die, it really wouldn't matter to many people because my range of influence was very limited. What I could have contributed to all of society is miniscule so my loss is pretty much insignificant as a whole.

Just because someone is famous doesn't mean they have contributed a lot to society. Paris Hilton is famous, but all she has contributed to society is "One Night in Paris". Please, don't act as if celebrities and actual important people are equals. Ghandi strived to change the world. Celebrities, with a few vocal (often poorly educated) exceptions, don't. This is not to say that their deaths aren't sad, all deaths are. But to compare Mother Teresa and Christopher Reeve is a shame to the memory of Mother Teresa.

[Zenithian Legend]

poor Superman

[evilmax17]

I guess the cool thing to do nowadays is to not be sad that Christopher Reeve died. Wow, did I just type that?

I really wanted to see him walk again. Hopefully some good comes out of this, and stem cell research gets the push that it needs.

[KingDox]

yeah the 11 news on the west coast just reported it, mand is that bad news. I think he was going to have more time on smallville, and I really did have hopes that he would live a pretty long life. It's a miracle that the acident did kill him, so at least he was able to have a few more years to spend with his kids and raise awarness about some important causes. I know he will be really missed.

[punqsux]

i understand reeves case, which is why i kinda generalized it by asking about celebrity deaths in general.

ghandi, mother teresa and others like them are not celebrities in the traditional sence of the glamor and fame...they are awesome fucking people that devoted their lives into making this world a better place...so thats not comparable.

im not trying to take away from a persons death, as said before, but i dont see how christopher reeve dying is any diffrent from the names in the obits that no one even looks at every day.

do actors contribute to society? moderatley. id say writers contribute more, and i cant think of the last time a writers death made news....actors are mearly in a more popular media format at the moment

[dcfox]

ok im trying to make this post as inoffensive as possible, so please dont flame, theres no ill will meant.

why do people take celebrity deaths so hard? i am not saying it isnt sad that they die, and i wish their families the best, my question is why do you guys care so much about christopher reeve or rodney dangerfeild, or any celebrity that dies? i can see if youre a huge fan of theirs, so if thats it, i understand (i was a huge nirvana fan, well, still am..) but im just curious why everyone is begging for this to be a joke (other than the fact that a human would still be alive) because people die everyday, and ive never understood the whole celebrity thing...

if anyone understood what i said, go you ^^

I know exactly what you mean. I really don't like how celebritys are made more important to the masses, even in death. this is stilla great loss, but so is every death, every day.

In some ways aren't celebrities more important than the regular masses. When people like Einstein, Ghandhi, or Mother Teresa died, you could say its a tragedy because they contributed so much to society, whether it was scientific knowledge or good will. When a celebrity dies its almost the same thing. They had talent or some other trait which distinguished them from the rest of society that they shared and now are no longer to do so. If a guy like me were to die, it really wouldn't matter to many people because my range of influence was very limited. What I could have contributed to all of society is miniscule so my loss is pretty much insignificant as a whole.

Just because someone is famous doesn't mean they have contributed a lot to society. Paris Hilton is famous, but all she has contributed to society is "One Night in Paris". Please, don't act as if celebrities and actual important people are equals. Ghandi strived to change the world. Celebrities, with a few vocal (often poorly educated) exceptions, don't. This is not to say that their deaths aren't sad, all deaths are. But to compare Mother Teresa and Christopher Reeve is a shame to the memory of Mother Teresa.

I'm not saying all celebrities contribute alot to society or even positive things to society. And by know means was I trying to draw a direct comparison between Reeves and Mother Teresa. But there is a reason why they're the celebrities and we're not. Whether if they could act, sing, dance, or just a little better looking than the rest of us, that's what they shared with society. Wouldn't you agree that if a talented composer died would be a greater loss to society than someone who just plays video games all day? I know personally that I've done nothing to contribute to society as a whole and don't expect anyone but those who were close to me to care that I'm dead.

[cag1000]

paris has given the most contribution to society in the last decade.

how u may ask?

the new trend of pleated hooker skirts and the young girls today dressing like party sluts will give way to a new generation of filthy skanks who we can all bang.

[Scorch]

CNN, MSNBC, and FoxNews just placed this as breaking news.

Damnit you guys, it's been confirmed :(

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135003,00.html

[ErekoseDM]

if hes dead or alive whatever however this mug is wack

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.com/c.cgi?u=creeve

maddox is biased but brings up good points.
the part that gets me personally is that he played a role as a victim but didnt particularly further the cause.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

if hes dead or alive whatever however this mug is wack

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.com/c.cgi?u=creeve

maddox is biased but brings up good points.
the part that gets me personally is that he played a role as a victim but didnt particularly further the cause.

I would have posted this if it wasn't already.

I always hated superman and I think that asshole is the reason why.

[Mind_n_Soul]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6223386/

i found this

[Zenithian Legend]

ironic how much he looks like his arch-nemesis "Lex Luther" in that photo

[Riptard]

Man that fuckin' sucks.
He was Superman for Christ's sake. :cry:

[Scorch]

ABCnews.com has put up a template for Sharon Osbourne. http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=101124&page=1

This is in no way saying she's dead, or even sick, they're just preparing, I guess.. what's strange, though, is that Christopher Reeve's template was also put up today... (at least, I think it was today. It was soon, as they end numbers are only one lower than the last one.. http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=101123&page=1 )

[Zenithian Legend]

Dude... that's creepy as hell, why would ABC put up that template?

[xzafixz]

ABCnews.com has put up a template for Sharon Osbourne. http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=101124&page=1

This is in no way saying she's dead, or even sick, they're just preparing, I guess.. what's strange, though, is that Christopher Reeve's template was also put up today... (at least, I think it was today. It was soon, as they end numbers are only one lower than the last one.. http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=101123&page=1 )

That is morbid.. and weird... and man... that is messed up.

[dafoomie]

They have templates for everyone they expect could die within the next few years. Odd that she'd be on the list, but I guess they made templates for everyone they could think of, and started doing more for people that are sorta old or sorta into drugs.

[Scorch]

They have templates for everyone they expect could die within the next few years. Odd that she'd be on the list, but I guess they made templates for everyone they could think of, and started doing more for people that are sorta old or sorta into drugs.

..or maybe because she has cancer.

[Saucy Jack]

This is definitely a horrible year if you count the number of celebrity deaths. So sad.

May you rest in peace, Mr. Reeve. You were a terrific actor, and I'm glad to see that other people acknowledged your wide range of acting talent, and that you could do more than just play Superman.

You will always be Superman in my eyes. No one else could ever don the cape, in my opinion. :cry:

Also, it's incredibly disturbing to see Sharon Osbourne's obituary template up like that. I love the Osbourne family, and this would definitely be a saddening loss.

Sometime this week, I'll watch Superman again in Reeve's memory.

[killswitch64]

RIP

[dracula]

52 is too young for anyone to die

[Scorch]

And, might I add..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/scorch/supes1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/scorch/supes2.jpg

[dafoomie]

..or maybe because she has cancer.
She's not expected to die from it though.

[Mospeada_21]

:cry: rip supes

[epobirs]

..or maybe because she has cancer.
She's not expected to die from it though.

Not any moment soon but if you put her medical history through the process used by the insurance industry, she is at a very high risk for reoccurrance, manifestation of other forms of cancer, and potential life threatening effects of the same treatments used to keep the cancer under control. Once your genome becomes error prone the problems cumulatively cut your lifespan.

[dafoomie]

Yeah but in the context of having a template made up for your death, it seems a little premature. Which was my original point, that they probably have most of the really old people covered so they've moved to people who are less likely to die soon, but maybe 5 years down the road.

My wording there doesn't make much sense btw. Oh look, its 6am.

[Scorch]

CNN.com does this. They pre-make obituaries. Here's a few.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art2/cnnobit1.jpg
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art2/cnnobit2.jpg
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art2/cnnobit3.jpg
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art2/cnnobit4.jpg
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art2/cnnobit5.jpg

[dafoomie]

I love Castro's.

Must suck for Cheney though, I wouldn't want to be remembered as "loyal point-man".

[epobirs]

Yeah but in the context of having a template made up for your death, it seems a little premature. Which was my original point, that they probably have most of the really old people covered so they've moved to people who are less likely to die soon, but maybe 5 years down the road.

My wording there doesn't make much sense btw. Oh look, its 6am.

By small coincidence, I'm currently reading a Carl Hiaasen novel, Basket Case, whose main character and narrator is a reporter who has been subjected to internal exile at his paper, writing obituaries. A lot of newspaper writers have to do this early on as part of paying their dues in the grunt work trenches. I had a friend who spent the better part of a year at the LA Times writing obituary boilerplate for virtually any recognizable name, not just those regarded as being at risk. All it takes is one car running a stop light and a young healthy celebrity can be killed as readily as any of us.

This material can come in handy for other situations where a quick biographical background may be needed. If the person is embroiled in a breaking scandal, for instance. Databases are easily maintained and hard drive space is cheap so it's of value to major papers, especially those in big assemblages like Gannett or Times Mirror, to have all of this at hand. More recently Google has given this power to everyone but that is fairly recent compared to how long the newsmedia industry has been at the task.

The task is easiest with elderly celebrities, of course, especially those who haven't done anything of note recently. The downside is they also tend to be in the, "I thought that guy died a long time ago," category. So the younger and more active celebrities require more work to keep their bios current but the payoff is also greater when that data comes into use.

[epobirs]

I love Castro's.

Must suck for Cheney though, I wouldn't want to be remembered as "loyal point-man".

There are worse things. People who know what they are good at and do it rather than aspiring to the top position for its own sake are usually better off and happier than those who feel they have to become #1 or all was for naught. Cheney is a lifelong policy wonk who knows he isn't strong in public speaking as is required for the lead position. It's the people who cannot perceive their own liits who embody the Peter Principle.

[Wshakspear]

Well, this was surprising....kinda makes things look a little dimmer overall.

A few points though.

"Why is Reeve an asshole?

Simple: because he's selfish. Reeve didn't give a shit about paralysis before his accident, but now that he's paralyzed, suddenly he opens up a paralysis foundation and cares about the plight of cripples? Where was his foundation in '95 when he played the role of a man with spinal cord injury? Sure, some of you might argue that he's doing a good thing by bringing attention to paralysis, but the underlying message being sent here is that nobody gives a shit about cripples until a celebrity becomes one."

...and nobody gives a shit about the rainforest until its thier house thats in the way of the dozers.
...and nobody gives a shit about the middle east until they raise prices on oil/smash plans into buildings.
...and nobody gives a shit about me until they know i exist (well, thats debateable).

Why do people mourn when a celebrity dies? Because we knew them. Why dont more people get visually upset when a random army man in Iraq dies? Only his family/friends knew him, we do not.

I feel saddend about CR because i grew up watching him be superman in the movies, and then watched him get wheeled around talking about what happened. He was a different kind of hero to different people.
Is he more important than a random person who shops at my store? In the overall eqation of things, no. In the real world, yes. I know more about CR than that person, and have more than likely spent more of my life viewing/haering CR than that person.

[GuilewasNK]

I am surprised he did as well as he did. He was in really bad shape after his accident. Then he seemed to improve some. I am just glad his wife stayed by him all these years. RIP.

[slidecage]

Wasnt there talk about a new superman movie and he was to be in it. Was that ever done????

[pimp tyranny]

so i heard

[daphatty]

This fucking sucks.

[johnnyoski]

I would not want to be cast as the next Superman since both of the previous actors met tragic ends.

[crystalklear64]

Gasp! Some guy died! Quick, run to your houses and lock the doors, THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!
Meh, how boring is it to see another "famous" person die... People die all the time, you don't see them in the news. I'm not saying this guy wasn't important, just not more important than anyone else.

[daphatty]

Gasp! Some guy died! Quick, run to your houses and lock the doors, THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!
Meh, how boring is it to see another "famous" person die... People die all the time, you don't see them in the news. I'm not saying this guy wasn't important, just not more important than anyone else.

And when you die, you will have just as much fanfare...

[Dok Diamond]

damn i just read this on the aim cscreen, rip superman.

[Xevious]

Seriously folks. The fact that C. Reeve died might be considered a good thing. He did suffer alot in the last few years of his life with the paralysis.

This is yet another reason why we should consider Stem Cell Research. It was horrible the way he (and so many others) suffered. George Bush's religious dogma is no alleviation for the millions of people who suffer terrible diseases like Reeves.

[crystalklear64]

And when you die, you will have just as much fanfare...

YAY! :D

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Just noticed that Maddox edited his page ...

http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=creeve

[mousin]

RIP, hope you flying again superman.

[epobirs]

I would not want to be cast as the next Superman since both of the previous actors met tragic ends.

The majority of film and television Superman portrayers didn't come to tragic ends. It's a silly myth.

Bud Collyer
http://imdb.com/name/nm0172872/

Kirk Alyn
http://imdb.com/name/nm0001906/

Timothy Daly
http://imdb.com/name/nm0172872/

Johnny Rockwell (probably)
http://imdb.com/name/nm0734344/

Gerard Christopher
http://imdb.com/name/nm0160569/

Dean Cain
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0001002/

Danny Dark
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0201282/

Tom Welling
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0919991/

David Wilson
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0933264/

Beau Weaver
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0915812/

Aaron Smolinski
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0810597/

John Haymes Newton
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0628542/

Jason Marsden
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0005189/

Bob Hastings
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0368561/

Ralph Hodges
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0388205/

George Newbern
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0627624/

There are others, especially if you count the several productions in India and Turkey. By and large, it's the ones who die under bizarre circumstances or have have highly public tragedies that stand out in memory. It's like the Poltergeist movies. Everyone remembers the names from the lead credits who died but little thought is given to the hundreds of others in the end credits roll who by statistical happenstance must have a few mishaps among their number, too.

[epobirs]

Seriously folks. The fact that C. Reeve died might be considered a good thing. He did suffer alot in the last few years of his life with the paralysis.

This is yet another reason why we should consider Stem Cell Research. It was horrible the way he (and so many others) suffered. George Bush's religious dogma is no alleviation for the millions of people who suffer terrible diseases like Reeves.

Stem cell research is proceeding just fine. The issue at contention is government funding. The argument is that those in favor don't have the right to pick the pockets of those who have a problem with the derivation of embryonic cells. Those who favor embryonic cell extraction are completely free to invest in the appropriate biotech companies and perhaps make some serious money in the process.

[Mospeada_21]

Just noticed that Maddox edited his page ...

http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=creeve

That Maddox just sounds bitter, with the biggest chip on his shoulder. (those are the sorry a$$/pathetic people)