Who will win the big ALCS rematch?

[Zenithian Legend]

I have this terrible feeling the Yanks are just destined to go back to the World Series again. Either way, Mister Ed liked watching the Dodgers on tv, but now that they're out... oh the hell with it go Sox.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Boston

[zionoverfire]

I'd love to see the Sox win but I don't think its possible so long and New York can buy any player they want.

[killswitch64]

Since my Cubs never made it, I'll go with the other cursed team. Go Boston!

[dafoomie]

Umm... The playoffs have already started. The ALCS starts Tuesday. They can't buy players now.

That said, the Yankees don't have the pitching this year. They have major starting pitching problems and nobody in the bullpen aside from Rivera, Gordon, and maybe Quantrill.

[Zenithian Legend]

But, but, but... the Yankees are Pedro's "daddy", can he finally get revenge on the father that has regularly beaten and abused him?

[integralsmatic]

Boston because Schilling on three days rest is way too good...Ortiz will hit anything out of the park

[nneace]

I hate the Yankees, but Boston just seems to fall to pieces when the face New York. I sure want the Sox to win, but I doubt it! Either way I am fearing this offseason cuz the A's might lose Zito to those biatches in NY

[jlarlee]

Umm... The playoffs have already started. The ALCS starts Tuesday. They can't buy players now.

That said, the Yankees don't have the pitching this year. They have major starting pitching problems and nobody in the bullpen aside from Rivera, Gordon, and maybe Quantrill.

Rivera may not be there he lost some relatives in a freak accident. I don't think he will miss the games though

[craven_fiend]

I think Rivera will miss atleast game 1; and if he does some how show up, he won't be in any shape to pitch. plus the redsox have played him well as of late. the red sox in 5. bold prediction, but hey, they'll win at home.


Edit: Just looked at the schedule, and game 5 is at Fenway.

[danh920]

Red Sox baby, all cuz Schilling can start games 1, 4,and 7

[dafoomie]

Schilling will only go twice, they're using 4 starters.

Schilling vs Mussina
Pedro vs Lieber
Arroyo vs Brown
Wakefield vs Vasquez

[dcfox]

The only real hope the Sox have its Schilling. I think the Yankees can pretty much hit the other starters and win games by offense. But either way if its anything like the drama that was that last ALCS, then its guaranteed to be a hell of a series.

[TheRaven]

Yankees in another classic 7 game series

[craven_fiend]

as long as the games are close, it'll be a good series. i still see boston coming in and taking 2 at NY to set the tone. Then all they have to do is win 2 of 3 and they clinch their world series bid at home.

[smellhasreturned]

Red Sox

[craven_fiend]

that yanks pic cracks me up.

[rmewpm]

sox in 5
http://www.sbutler.org/archives/JDST4.JPG

[craven_fiend]

wow, someone actually agree with me. thats cool.

[rockhero]

Sox in 6. They've got Schilling, Pedro, and the AL's best hitter. Manny Ramirez turns every at-bat into an art form.

[Rich]

Wahahhahahaa. Go back and read you responses. Get off of Schillings nuts, people. You're all so delirious. The curse is alive and in the form of a giant dinosaur.

http://img38.exs.cx/img38/5809/greenmonster.jpg

[Ugamer_X]

Wahahhahahaa. Go back and read you responses. Get off of Schillings nuts, people. You're all so delirious. The curse is alive and in the form of a giant dinosaur.

http://img38.exs.cx/img38/5809/greenmonster.jpg

Great pic...Matsui bats extremely well against the Red Sox, not to mention he's hitting .455 in the playoffs so far.

I still don't believe the Yankees almost blew the game tonight...It's already beginning to look like an exciting, strange series.

[evilpenguin9000]

I'm rooting for the Sox, but I'm not putting any money on it. Plus it's football season, who cares about baseball?

[e1337gamer]

Boston, I actually believe the curse is over and the Sox will beat the Cards in the World Series. btw, I dont live in boston

[Lootr2Core]

I think the team that wins 4 games will be the winner.

[Ugamer_X]

I think the team that wins 4 games will be the winner.

I disagree, I think the team that wins more games than the other team will win the series.

[Zenithian Legend]

Well since the Dodgers are out, and the Tigers were never in it, you can't pull a bandwagon without a horse. Check out this sig!

[Rich]

Boston, I actually believe the curse is over

You tool

[jlarlee]

heres a good running commentary of the game by Bill Simmons the sports guy who is my favorite sports columnist http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/041013

[johnnyoski]

I already made a few friendly bets on the Yankees, so I'll be rooting for them this series.

[jimbojonesjr]

I'd love to see the Sox win but I don't think its possible so long and New York can buy any player they want.

Boston's salary is only slightly lower.

[LinkinA]

yeah the difference is miniscule, and the red sox management is driving themselves into debt to win one for their fans. funny huh, debt, isnt that how the curse started?

[Ericnmel99]

Something tells me that no matter what i vote The horse will go and get drunk...so i'll stick with my Yankees.

[Rig]

I am a big fan of Boston, so I hope they beat the Yanks. Last night's game was disappointing.

[Ericnmel99]

Boston, I actually believe the curse is over and the Sox will beat the Cards in the World Series. btw, I dont live in boston

And i believe you are gay.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/negative20.jpg

[ryanbph]

first and foremost, their is about a 60 million dollar difference in payroll...and that doesn't include the amount the yanks picked up on cotreas contract...2nd of all I hate the yanks, but if schilling remains unable to pitch effectively due to his injury it will be the yanks in 7, if he can come back in game 5, and pitch decent..the sox in 6...his fastball last night was about 5mph off what it is usually, and he usually walks about a batter per 9 inn..and he walked 2 in 3 inn last night..the ankle unfort for us boston fans affected him more then we had hoped...

[Cereal]

yeah, curt really "shut up" all those fans last night, with that brilliant three inning performanace.

Part of me wants the sox to win, so that people will finally shut up about this BS curse. There is no curse, your team is just 'teh suck'

The other part wants the Yanks to win, just cause they're the Yankees, and I'm a Matsui fan.

And finally, there's the part of me that could care less, since it's football season. Go Philly.

[Weedy649]

first and foremost, their is about a 60 million dollar difference in payroll...and that doesn't include the amount the yanks picked up on cotreas contract...2nd of all I hate the yanks, but if schilling remains unable to pitch effectively due to his injury it will be the yanks in 7, if he can come back in game 5, and pitch decent..the sox in 6...his fastball last night was about 5mph off what it is usually, and he usually walks about a batter per 9 inn..and he walked 2 in 3 inn last night..the ankle unfort for us boston fans affected him more then we had hoped...

LMAO. Wow its so funny how those red sox fans said a page ago about how schilling got 3 days rest so he is gonna rock the yanks, then all of a sudden, "unable to pitch effectively due to his injury" stop making up excuses cuz even schilling knows its not an excuse. Rivera still came and pitched great after having a tragedy but you didnt seem to mention that.
There is no 60 million dollar difference you idiot, although i dont like the red sox, they have a great team with people like Ramierz and Schilling, if they were broke they couldnt afford half the people on the team.
This is an exciting series and although im rooting for my yanks, if the red sox win they win. Its like having your little brother beat you in street fighter for once...bound to happen once in a 100 times.

[dafoomie]

Boston's salary is only slightly lower.
127 million is not slightly less than 184 million. And thats not factoring in the luxury tax the Yankees pay.

Wow its so funny how those red sox fans said a page ago about how schilling got 3 days rest so he is gonna rock the yanks, then all of a sudden, "unable to pitch effectively due to his injury" stop making up excuses cuz even schilling knows its not an excuse. Rivera still came and pitched great after having a tragedy but you didnt seem to mention that.
Schilling has an injured ankle which prevents him from planting his foot and getting enough velocity on his pitches, and it changes his motion so he doesn't have the same control. Rivera's Wife's cousin and cousin's son died, and while its sad, I don't think it will affect your pitching, in fact, I think pitching would be an escape for him if it really bothered him. And while he's probably sad, I think his wife is a little more upset than he is. At least he didn't break his ankle kicking a wall in the locker room.

There is no 60 million dollar difference you idiot, although i dont like the red sox, they have a great team with people like Ramierz and Schilling, if they were broke they couldnt afford half the people on the team.
Its more than 60 million, actually. Its a reason why the Yankees were able to go out and get ARod, Sheffield, and Kevin Brown in the same offseason, 3 players that make about 50 million between them. Take away those 3 players, and they're still 10 million up on the Redsox. What kind of team would they be without them? I don't care about the payroll or how much money they spend, I don't whine about it, thats just the way it is. But you have to acknowlege that it exists.

All that money and they forgot to buy pitching... Its what will cost them in the end.

[ayolykewhoa]

As much as I was disappointed lasted night, I still think the Sox will take this series.

[jlarlee]

As much as I was disappointed lasted night, I still think the Sox will take this series.

its one game. If the sox win tonight they will have taken homefield advantage from the yanks. Winning one of the first two games is all thety need. Also I think almost coming back from an 8 run deficit might put the yanks on edge

[Rich]

Apparently the Sox don't play til the 3rd time through the lineup, eh?

[cyberlian]

The Yankees... an underdog... who would have thought a $200 million payroll would lead to that...

[Rich]

Looks like 32 people will be wrong.

[dafoomie]

Pedro pitched well, the offense let him down. Damon is starting to have better at bats at least... Millar looks like a piece of crap at the plate. They made a very average pitcher (who pitched well) look better than he is.

Kevin Brown vs Broson Arroyo friday... I like our offense against Brown and the bullpen that'll come in the 6th at the latest.

[Rich]

Pedro pitched well, the offense let him down. Damon is starting to have better at bats at least... Millar looks like a piece of crap at the plate. They made a very average pitcher (who pitched well) look better than he is.

Kevin Brown vs Broson Arroyo friday... I like our offense against Brown and the bullpen that'll come in the 6th at the latest.

Lieber has been pitching amazing at the Stadium all year. 11-3 I think it is at home.

As for the next 2 starts, I wouldn't be surprised if the Yanks swept though I'm not expecting it. Their bats are alive right now and Boston's next 2 suck even more than the Yankees' next two.

[dafoomie]

Arroyo and Wakefield suck more than Kevin Brown and Vasquez?

Look at Arroyo's numbers. 6th in the AL in WHIP. 8th in the AL in OPP AVG. He's average against lefties but he's not a bad pitcher.

If they just bunted to the pitcher and made him field it, they could probably reach against Brown. He won't go more than 6, and whos going to come in from the bullpen?

I say game 3 is a blowout win for the Redsox, game 4 will be very very close. Wakefield and Vasquez have both pitched well this year but sucked a lot lately. Vasquez pitched ok in his last start in the playoffs and Wakefield pitched ok in his last start.

[craven_fiend]

all the sox need is one big momentous play and they are right back in this thing. they just need someone to step up.

[johnnyoski]

No Schilling for Game 5. Derek Lowe will take his place in the rotation.

[johnnyoski]

Barring a miracle, it looks like the Sox are about to go down 3-0.

[Rich]

Look at Arroyo's numbers. 6th in the AL in WHIP. 8th in the AL in OPP AVG. He's average against lefties but he's not a bad pitcher.


You Sox fans are clouded by euphoria. You will never win. Ever.

Oh, and Arroyo sucks ass.

[m_d_amore]

this game is awesome go bernie

[dafoomie]

The middle finger in my avatar is just for you tonight.

Actually, its for Manny trying to take 3rd, and Francoma using his worst two pitchers in a close game, and for using Embree after the game was over. Not enough fingers left over for you. Heh, they said we'd be begging for Grady back by now... They were right.

Did you hear the story about Bonds today?

[Josef]

It's time to be realistic, the Red Sox are not going to the World Series this year.

I just hope the Cardinals/Astros tear the Yankees a new one.

[Rich]

The middle finger in my avatar is just for you tonight.

Actually, its for Manny trying to take 3rd, and Francoma using his worst two pitchers in a close game, and for using Embree after the game was over. Not enough fingers left over for you. Heh, they said we'd be begging for Grady back by now... They were right.

Did you hear the story about Bonds today?

It's for the Red Sox. Because they suck. They will never get over the curse. Ever.

What about Bonds?

[dafoomie]

A tape has surfaced of Bonds's personal trainer telling someone he took undetectable steroids. Some other interesting tidbits too, that they'd know exactly when Bonds was going to be tested, and its the same drug Balco gave to olympians.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1903019

[sying]

I have this terrible feeling the Yanks are just destined to go back to the World Series again. Either way, Mister Ed liked watching the Dodgers on tv, but now that they're out... oh the hell with it go Sox.

I looks like its going to be that way with that 19 run blowout. It also looks like Derick Jeeter is evil, go figure.

[Crusader]

SWEEP

http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/soxgrave.jpg

[Ugamer_X]

Son of a bitch...I had my broom out and everything.

:x

[Zman310]

Thank you David Ortiz. Makes me wish you were still with the Twins. But since that's not the case, try and help those Red Sox somehow get three more like tonight.

[rockhero]

The more I think about it, the more I realize that this is the way it had to happen.

The Sox are now the team of destiny,

[dcfox]

Why couldn't the Red Sox just let themselves be swept. This just makes all the more difficult for the fans when they blow it. And besides, I have too much work to do to be watching baseball everynight for 4 and half hours.

[Monsta Mack]

No team has ever came back from 3-0.
Let the Red Sox be the first.

[MorbidAngel4Life]

I hope the Sox do it. I can't stand the Yankees.

[rickc25]

Well, I guess it wouldn't be October if the Sox didn't find some way to give us all hope again to only have it crushed it the most horrible way possible. What can I say though; I'm a hopeless sucker and I'll let myself get taken in every time.

[dafoomie]

Big Papi does it again...

No one has ever come back from being down 3-0 in baseball. But no AL team has even won game 4 after losing the first 3. Pedro and Schilling go the next two. Both bullpens are blown. This'll be a great series.

[opportunity777]

Speaking of not coming back from 3-0 to win the series in baseball, I don't think anyone has come back from 3-0 in a 7 games series in any other North American major team sport.

Although it would be cool if it happened.

[MorbidAngel4Life]

I believe it has happened in hockey once. I will have to look it up.

[adamada]

I hope Pedro and Schilling have good outings. The later relief by Sox pitchers (Foulke, Leskanic) gave a reason to hope in spite of game 3's misery... Yes, no baseball team has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit. But only 5/25 have ever forced a game 5. 2/25 have forced a game 6, and no team has ever forced a game 7.
And if you take into account hockey and baskeball, only 2 teams out of over 200 have every come back to win a series after being down 3-0 and both of those were in hockey.
there is still something about how the sox won tonight that gave me a glimpse of hope (however foolish that may be)

[MorbidAngel4Life]

Well I found out that yes, 2 times it has happened.

TSN (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/playoffs/news_story.asp?ID=82385&hubName=nhl)

The Avalanche are halfway to the third comeback from an 0-3 series deficit in NHL history - and after San Jose's confused, tentative play in Game 5, Colorado seems quite capable of the first such rally since 1975, when the New York Islanders accomplished the feat.

But the Avs didn't do it. But it HAS been done in North American sports.

EDIT: Beat me to it, adamada. D'OH!

[CaseyRyback]

man what an awesome game

[Moxio]

man what an awesome game

I know. Even more action than last night.

[Zman310]

David Ortiz wins it again! I love this guy! Only 2 more to go! Go Sox!

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Speaking of not coming back from 3-0 to win the series in baseball, I don't think anyone has come back from 3-0 in a 7 games series in any other North American major team sport.

Although it would be cool if it happened.

Royals over Cardinals, 1985 world series? I can't remember if it was 3-0 or just 3-1.

[scargums]

yeah, that was a sweet win for boston 2 days in a row. ive never followed baseball, due to the fact that ive hated it for years since i was so amazingly awful at it as a child, but i just cant pull myself away from the whole boston / new york matchup, and how it seems to play out each year. good job boston, now just continue to make history and win 2 more times

[Monsta Mack]

Well unfortunately they still got two games left.

The good news is the Red Sox have already done the unthinkable, giving us all a reason to smile after their first three losses.

Can't diss the Sox for what they did tonight and last night, Ortiz is simply amazing.

[CaseyRyback]

now we shift from one tied game to another. I probably should not stay up and watch this game, but its freakin playoff baseball

[dcfox]

Speaking of not coming back from 3-0 to win the series in baseball, I don't think anyone has come back from 3-0 in a 7 games series in any other North American major team sport.

Although it would be cool if it happened.

Royals over Cardinals, 1985 world series? I can't remember if it was 3-0 or just 3-1.

3-1.

[Rich]

:lol: People are still voting Sox?

Unless Schilling is 100%, the Sox have no chance. They will most likely not let him pitch deep, and neither team has a bullpen right now. 26 innings in 27 hours. There is a very small glimmer of hope, but with the Bambino watching, you guys have no chance. Let us not forget the Sox are 0-2 at the Stadium this series.

[jshorr]

Holy shit...I just read on espn.com that as of 11pm eastern the Yankees have aquired David Ortiz in exchange for Tony Clark and 1 billion cash.

From a proud New Yorker, F the Yankees, go Sox.

[Moxio]

Holy shit...I just read on espn.com that as of 11pm eastern the Yankees have aquired David Ortiz in exchange for Tony Clark and 1 billion cash.

From a proud New Yorker, F the Yankees, go Sox.

1 billion, eh? ;)

[dafoomie]

Big Papi AGAIN....

Curt Schilling goes tomorrow, and his ankle is "feeling good". Keep in mind, he pitched with the injury against the Angels and did great. This type of injury can't get better or worse within a short period of time, it all hangs on if his ankle brace can keep it stable. If it can, and especially because of how little he pitched in his last start, he can easily go 9. Schilling is an emotional guy and he really has something to prove, and he knows he let the team down last time.

Both bullpens are completely blown... At least that means we won't see Rivera, not that he scares us anymore.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041019/capt.bxf16010190408.alcs_bxf160.jpg
"Walking Disaster"

[Rich]

Big Papi AGAIN....

Curt Schilling goes tomorrow, and his ankle is "feeling good". Keep in mind, he pitched with the injury against the Angels and did great. This type of injury can't get better or worse within a short period of time, it all hangs on if his ankle brace can keep it stable. If it can, and especially because of how little he pitched in his last start, he can easily go 9. Schilling is an emotional guy and he really has something to prove, and he knows he let the team down last time.

Both bullpens are completely blown... At least that means we won't see Rivera, not that he scares us anymore.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041019/capt.bxf16010190408.alcs_bxf160.jpg
"Walking Disaster"

Schilling is a self-absorbed piece of shit. This whole thing has been about him, no the Red Sox.

[jlarlee]

Big Papi AGAIN....

Curt Schilling goes tomorrow, and his ankle is "feeling good". Keep in mind, he pitched with the injury against the Angels and did great. This type of injury can't get better or worse within a short period of time, it all hangs on if his ankle brace can keep it stable. If it can, and especially because of how little he pitched in his last start, he can easily go 9. Schilling is an emotional guy and he really has something to prove, and he knows he let the team down last time.

Both bullpens are completely blown... At least that means we won't see Rivera, not that he scares us anymore.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041019/capt.bxf16010190408.alcs_bxf160.jpg
"Walking Disaster"

Schilling is a self-absorbed piece of shit. This whole thing has been about him, no the Red Sox.

Don't be mad that he picked the underdog in the rivlary has Sheffield found his dealer yet?

[yeahokthenfu]

Since my Cubs never made it, I'll go with the other cursed team. Go Boston!
Good another cubs fan, yeah Im going for the team who never wins, always root for the underdog

[jlarlee]

down 3-2 going to new york the same spot as we were in last year. If curt has it tonight this could get good plus I feel a huge inning for the sox O they are due

[Rich]

Don't be mad that he picked the underdog in the rivlary has Sheffield found his dealer yet?

Uh, no, sorry, don't think so. He's as self absorbed and all about "me" as Barry Bonds is.

[CaseyRyback]

At least Sheffield admitted to taking steroids. Although he says that he did not know they were steroids,at least he admitted to his wrongdoing.

[Rich]

Unlike that piece of shit x2 Bonds.

[jlarlee]

At least Sheffield admitted to taking steroids. Although he says that he did not know they were steroids,at least he admitted to his wrongdoing.

Sheffield is full of crap there is no way someone would pay as much for the items he claimed he got

[jlarlee]

Unlike that piece of shit x2 Bonds.

We can agree there hate that guy it will be a shame if he takes the HR record from a class act like Hank Aaron

[sj41]

Now, that was amazing. What the hell was A-Rod thinking?

4-2 Boston right now, because of A-Rod's stupid move!

[Monsta Mack]

Wtf was A-Rod thinking. Awesome non-bias by the umps... except for the first base ump. A-Rod didn't even touch first base!

[jlarlee]

The first base umps view was obscured at least he let them conference over it

[CaseyRyback]

Wtf was A-Rod thinking. Awesome non-bias by the umps... except for the first base ump. A-Rod didn't even touch first base!

SAFE!!!!!

[jshorr]

Let me be the first to say, good sportsmanship A-Rod, way to be a class act. Very nice Yankee fans, throwing objects onto the field....very classy as well. Ignorant SOBs.

[sj41]

lol. 2 other threads were just made about A-Rod's play. I guess this will be quite a big deal come tomorrow.

[dcfox]

Before we start persecuting Yankee fans, you have to realize that its not like all 55,000 fans threw balls on the field. It was just a couple of bad apples, every team, city, and stadium has them. And even though, A-Rod clearly took a swipe, you can't blame for trying to get the call changed.

[jshorr]

Before we start persecuting Yankee fans, you have to realize that its not like all 55,000 fans threw balls on the field. It was just a couple of bad apples, every team, city, and stadium has them. And even though, A-Rod clearly took a swipe, you can't blame for trying to get the call changed.

I think it's all in good fun (the posting) although it does take away from the game when fans throw objects. And, a superstar like A-Rod should try to set a better example than by blatantly trying to cheat.

[dcfox]

Before we start persecuting Yankee fans, you have to realize that its not like all 55,000 fans threw balls on the field. It was just a couple of bad apples, every team, city, and stadium has them. And even though, A-Rod clearly took a swipe, you can't blame for trying to get the call changed.

I think it's all in good fun (the posting) although it does take away from the game when fans throw objects. And, a superstar like A-Rod should try to set a better example than by blatantly trying to cheat.

I guess you're right if you look at it through that perspective. I was going on the perspective of an athlete. But I guess if A-Rod had gotten the call safe, you could imagine that every little leaguer is going to try it.

[integralsmatic]

Let me be the first to say, good sportsmanship A-Rod, way to be a class act. Very nice Yankee fans, throwing objects onto the field....very classy as well. Ignorant SOBs.

Hey dont forget the 99 ALCS...Jose OFferman tried to pull he same shit rounding second and he was nailed out. Boston fans chucked shit on the field too...so everyone is a SOB. :)

[dafoomie]

Redsox force game 7!

[CaseyRyback]

paging RichD to try and deflate the emotions of Red Sox fans

[jeffreyjrose]

Boston.

[jlarlee]

god i sweated that last at bat tony clark beating us would have been so red sox like. the guy hit .160 when he played for us and I so could see him killing us

[dafoomie]

How about those classy Yankees fans throwing stuff on the field, after the correct call was made? They had to call in the riot police to stand down 1st and 3rd baselines...

[sblymnlcrymnl]

god i sweated that last at bat tony clark beating us would have been so red sox like. the guy hit .160 when he played for us and I so could see him killing us

Watch him do something in game 7 now that you've said that, bastard :lol:

[dafoomie]

Derek Lowe the likely starter, everybody on the Redsox will probably pitch tomorrow... No word yet on the Yankees starter.

Tony Clark is not going to beat us... I was wondering why Sierra wasn't swinging, didn't he know Tony CLark was batting behind him?

[rockhero]

I seriously think I blacked out during that last pitch

[ayolykewhoa]

Fuck Tony Clark, Keith Foulke has fucking balls!

[dcfox]

Expect game 7 to be a nail biter. But if I hear anyone say the Red Sox will make history again, I'm going to lose it.

[sj41]

god i sweated that last at bat tony clarkI had to go take a shit, so I missed the very last pitch of that. I just couldn't hold it any longer. :( So, am I scaring anyone yet? :twisted:

Alright, who will win game 7?
I say Yanks, just because they are the yankees and they won't allow the Red Sox to win, you know? It's just, never going to happen for a long time.

[jlarlee]

Derek Lowe the likely starter, everybody on the Redsox will probably pitch tomorrow... No word yet on the Yankees starter.

Tony Clark is not going to beat us... I was wondering why Sierra wasn't swinging, didn't he know Tony CLark was batting behind him?

Tony clark came a bad bounce from beating us last night remember we were lucky his double went into the seats

[dafoomie]

I ran home from work to catch the final at bat, just got to watch it. The last time I ran home from work to catch the final at bat was Aaron Boone at the end of game 7 last year... Good sign today.

[jlarlee]

hopefully i can hold off on that heart attack for the next couple days

[jlarlee]

How about those classy Yankees fans throwing stuff on the field, after the correct call was made? They had to call in the riot police to stand down 1st and 3rd baselines...

That tells you all you need to know about Yankee/Lakers/Cowboy fans

[smellhasreturned]

http://www.bostondirtdogs.com/2004/CS_2.20.jpg

Curt you are my hero

GO FUCKING SOX WOO

[sj41]

I seriously think I blacked out during that last pitchWhat I said- "I had to go take a shit, so I missed the very last pitch of that."

^^That's alot like blacking out, right? And I'm not joking that I missed the last pitch to take the dump either. :lol:

[Ugamer_X]

god i sweated that last at bat tony clark beating us would have been so red sox like. the guy hit .160 when he played for us and I so could see him killing us
Yeah, I was sweating too...Then I realized it was Tony"I can only hit when the bases are empty"Clark...After noticing who was at bat, I pretty much figured that the Yanks were screwed.

Hmmm...Who's gonna pitch for the Yankees tomorrow?...If it's Kevin Brown we are fucked.

[rickc25]

Curt you are my hero


Yeah, no kidding. Did you see Curt going Roy Hobbs style with the bloody sock?

[smellhasreturned]

Whats with that First Base umpire... I mean A-rod smacked the ball out of Arryo's glove then he misses 1st base and the ump calls him safe

[dafoomie]

If its Kevin Brown, the Yankees sure are screwed. It'll be Brown or Vasquez.

Another report says that Wakefield will start, so its either Lowe or Wakefield. Either way, they'll probably each only go 3 or 4 innings max, probably Lowe 3 and Wakefield 4.

The first base umpire had a player in his way so he didn't see it at first. It was an obvious call though and the other umpires got it right.

[ChrisXE]

phew now if Boston could win game 7, that would sure make me happy for a month

[dafoomie]

It'll be a great game regardless... Both teams have no starters and no bullpen left. The two best teams in baseball just slugging it out and completely destroying each other. It'll be a great end to a great series.

[Jaket]

oh man, i cannot WAIT til game 7


GOOOOOO SOX!!!!1111!!!!!1one

[dafoomie]

The National League is like some other country right now, I don't think anyone besides Houston and St Louis care.

This is news... The Redsox medical staff actually sutured Schilling's ankle with stitches to hold those tendons on. "Tonight god did something amazing for me."

[dafoomie]

They're showing clips of Schilling's ankle... His sock is soaked in blood. What a heroic performance... Thats right up there with Pedro coming out of the bullpen in 99 against Cleveland.

[MorbidAngel4Life]

http://espn.starwave.com/media/mlb/2004/1019/photo/a_rodriguez_il.jpg

What an ass. Thats all I can say. I went nuts when the first base umpire called him safe. Thank god they called him out. That was the craziest 9th inning I have ever seen in baseball.

[ayolykewhoa]

The Sox bullpen is rested for tomorrow except for Keith Foulke. I can't stress how ballsy this team is. Curt Schilling unbelievable gutsy performance.

[ChrisXE]

Can we get some ankle pics, I have a fetish, but no really where are the pics i got to see this, he can be the true IRONMAN of baseball

[sj41]

http://espn.starwave.com/media/mlb/2004/1019/photo/a_rodriguez_il.jpg

What an ass. Thats all I can say. I went nuts when the first base umpire called him safe. Thank god they called him out. That was the craziest 9th inning I have ever seen in baseball. :lol: It looks like he's trying to give him a high-five.

[dafoomie]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041020/capt.nyy13410200255.alcs_red_sox_yankees_nyy134.jp g
This was only the 3rd inning, it got much worse before he was done.

[ChrisXE]

man i found a new respect for Curt

[dafoomie]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20041020/i/r1482010332.jpg
Riot police... Obviously there to protect those classy Yankees fans from the "Walking Disaster" that is the Redsox.

[dcfox]

With so many people talking about what A-Rod did as being a bad example, I'm surprised no one's mentioned what an equally bad idea it is to play with a serious injury like Schilling did. Not that I wish any harm on Schilling, but if he ends up being out next season, the Sox have no one to blame but themselves.

[MorbidAngel4Life]

http://espn.starwave.com/media/mlb/2004/1019/photo/a_rodriguez_il.jpg

What an ass. Thats all I can say. I went nuts when the first base umpire called him safe. Thank god they called him out. That was the craziest 9th inning I have ever seen in baseball. :lol: It looks like he's trying to give him a high-five.

LOL thats what I thought when I first saw the pic. I love the Yankees. Fucking love em. Think they can get away with cheating, then get pissed when they get called for it. Wow.

I pick the Sox. If they can make history tonight, they can do it again next game.

When is game 7? I didn't catch it.

[ayolykewhoa]

Not only does this game show the grit of Schilling, but it shows what a bitch A-Rod is.

[ChrisXE]

tomorrow on FOX at 8 pm EST

[dafoomie]

With so many people talking about what A-Rod did as being a bad example, I'm surprised no one's mentioned what an equally bad idea it is to play with a serious injury like Schilling did. Not that I wish any harm on Schilling, but if he ends up being out next season, the Sox have no one to blame but themselves.
Schilling's injury can not get any worse by him playing on it. Many regular people live with the injury for months before they get treatment. Its not something you can aggrvate, or make worse, nor will it get better within a short period of time. He'll need surgery, but its nothing serious, and it can't develop into something serious. Its a painful snapping of the ankle tendons. You or me might limp around for a while thinking it would heal like a sprain.

The only thing that could hurt Schilling is if he changes his motion to compensate for his ankle, and hurts his shoulder. Some pitchers have done that with foot injuries or toe injuries, but Schilling is a smart enough guy to know his motion well enough not to change.

[MorbidAngel4Life]

tomorrow on FOX at 8 pm EST

Thanks. I'm definitley watching that game. I hope the Astros finish off the Cards, then the Sox beat the Yankees, because I don't see the 'Stros beating the Sox, no offence to any 'Stros fans.

[dafoomie]

They're showing A-Hole slapping Arroyo's arm now. He clearly slaps the middle of his forearm, you can't do that. He'd have been better off just making the out, if he doesn't do that, Jeter goes to 2nd. Because he did that, he had to stay at 1st.

[ChrisXE]

tomorrow on FOX at 8 pm EST

Thanks. I'm definitley watching that game. I hope the Astros finish off the Cards, then the Sox beat the Yankees, because I don't see the 'Stros beating the Sox, no offence to any 'Stros fans.

Yes i am definitly pulling for the SOX, i would jsut love it if they MADE the world series

[ChrisXE]

They're showing A-Hole slapping Arroyo's arm now. He clearly slaps the middle of his forearm, you can't do that. He'd have been better off just making the out, if he doesn't do that, Jeter goes to 2nd. Because he did that, he had to stay at 1st.

well their went A-rod golden boy rep, cheater and gets pissed when he knows he is wrong, well well

[dcfox]

tomorrow on FOX at 8 pm EST

Thanks. I'm definitley watching that game. I hope the Astros finish off the Cards, then the Sox beat the Yankees, because I don't see the 'Stros beating the Sox, no offence to any 'Stros fans.

As much as I'd love to see a rematch of Clemens and Schilling, I'd rather have the Yankees in the World Series.

[ChrisXE]

tomorrow on FOX at 8 pm EST

Thanks. I'm definitley watching that game. I hope the Astros finish off the Cards, then the Sox beat the Yankees, because I don't see the 'Stros beating the Sox, no offence to any 'Stros fans.

As much as I'd love to see a rematch of Clemens and Schilling, I'd rather have the Yankees in the World Series.

wow your in boston and you pullnig for the YANKS to go to the world series, thats weird

[dafoomie]

I wonder where all the Yankees fans are, except for dcfox. I was here after the 19-8 loss.

No wonder why he'd dare criticize one of the most heroic pitching performances in the history of baseball. Why don't you call out Kevin Brown for setting a bad example for not only pitching with a broken hand, but breaking it himself against a cement wall?

[greendc27]

The Red Sox will win, they have so much momentum right now.

[dafoomie]

Is your avatar a picture of RichD1 right now, greendc?

[ChrisXE]

The Red Sox will win, they have so much momentum right now.

i dont want to jinx it though, yes kevin brown is retarded, what the hell he do that for?

[dcfox]

wow your in boston and you pullnig for the YANKS to go to the world series, thats weird

You're the first person to mention that. I actually use to be big Sox fan but switched in the mid 90s. And the switch has nothing to do with winning championships. And just to prove that, I hate the Pats as well.

[ChrisXE]

I hate pats, yankees, and lakers, anybody want to guess why? because its about bein an underdogg, and nomar was my fav player, so i stuck with boston for the pass 5 yeaars

[dafoomie]

The Patriots were the underdog in 2001... And everyone said they couldn't do it again in 03.

[dcfox]

I wonder where all the Yankees fans are, except for dcfox. I was here after the 19-8 loss.

No wonder why he'd dare criticize one of the most heroic pitching performances in the history of baseball. Why don't you call out Kevin Brown for setting a bad example for not only pitching with a broken hand, but breaking it himself against a cement wall?

But with the case with Kevin Brown, he didn't break his pitching hand. I would imagine that Curt Schilling would run a greater risk of hurting himself pitching on that ankle then Kevin would pitching with the opposite hand.

[dafoomie]

But with the case with Kevin Brown, he didn't break his pitching hand. I would imagine that Curt Schilling would run a greater risk of hurting himself pitching on that ankle then Kevin would pitching with the opposite hand.
He could re-break the catching hand if he tries to catch something, or falls on it, or if a ball hits it.
Schilling's injury can not be re-injured or made worse in any way. It simply is what it is, and will be the same as it is today until he has surgery, no better or worse.

[greendc27]

Is your avatar a picture of RichD1 right now, greendc?
Lol, no it's a picture of a friend that passed out like that.

[dcfox]

But with the case with Kevin Brown, he didn't break his pitching hand. I would imagine that Curt Schilling would run a greater risk of hurting himself pitching on that ankle then Kevin would pitching with the opposite hand.
He could re-break the catching hand if he tries to catch something, or falls on it, or if a ball hits it.
Schilling's injury can not be re-injured or made worse in any way. It simply is what it is, and will be the same as it is today until he has surgery, no better or worse.

You could say the same thing with Schilling's ankle. What if it took a bad twist or got hit with a line drive. You can't tell me his ankles not going to be worse after something like that. But with Brown, that broken hand really doesn't factor into his pitching motion. But I guess playing with any injury is a bad idea overall. Pedro had the right idea when he missed his start because of sore throat. :wink:

[dafoomie]

You could say the same thing with Schilling's ankle. What if it took a bad twist or got hit with a line drive. You can't tell me his ankles not going to be worse after something like that. But with Brown, that broken hand really doesn't factor into his pitching motion. But I guess playing with any injury is a bad idea overall.
You do not understand the nature of Schilling's injury. It CAN NOT get worse. There is a sheath in the ankle that keeps your tendons in place. Schilling tore it, and as a result, his tendons snap against the ankle if not kept in place. This is a fairly common injury. You can't make it worse.

You're just a Yankees homer who won't give Schilling the credit he deserves for such a gutty and brilliant performance.

The Redsox medical staff deserves all the credit in the world for finding a way to secure the tendons in the ankle enough for him to pitch. They used stitches to keep the tendons in place. Painful, yes, but no chance of further worsening the injury.

Ankle in the 3rd inning:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041020/capt.nyy13410200255.alcs_red_sox_yankees_nyy134.jp g

Ankle later:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041020/capt.nyy12910200250.alcs_red_sox_yankees_nyy129.jp g

[greendc27]

You could say the same thing with Schilling's ankle. What if it took a bad twist or got hit with a line drive. You can't tell me his ankles not going to be worse after something like that. But with Brown, that broken hand really doesn't factor into his pitching motion. But I guess playing with any injury is a bad idea overall.
You do not understand the nature of Schilling's injury. It CAN NOT get worse. There is a sheath in the ankle that keeps your tendons in place. Schilling tore it, and as a result, his tendons snap against the ankle if not kept in place. This is a fairly common injury. You can't make it worse.

You're just a Yankees homer who won't give Schilling the credit he deserves for such a gutty and brilliant performance.

The Redsox medical staff deserves all the credit in the world for finding a way to secure the tendons in the ankle enough for him to pitch. They used stitches to keep the tendons in place. Painful, yes, but no chance of further worsening the injury.

Ankle in the 3rd inning:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041020/capt.nyy13410200255.alcs_red_sox_yankees_nyy134.jp g

Ankle later:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041020/capt.nyy12910200250.alcs_red_sox_yankees_nyy129.jp g

Wow, i didn't realize his injury was that bad.

[dcfox]

You could say the same thing with Schilling's ankle. What if it took a bad twist or got hit with a line drive. You can't tell me his ankles not going to be worse after something like that. But with Brown, that broken hand really doesn't factor into his pitching motion. But I guess playing with any injury is a bad idea overall.
You do not understand the nature of Schilling's injury. It CAN NOT get worse. There is a sheath in the ankle that keeps your tendons in place. Schilling tore it, and as a result, his tendons snap against the ankle if not kept in place. This is a fairly common injury. You can't make it worse.

You're just a Yankees homer who won't give Schilling the credit he deserves for such a gutty and brilliant performance.

The Redsox medical staff deserves all the credit in the world for finding a way to secure the tendons in the ankle enough for him to pitch. They used stitches to keep the tendons in place. Painful, yes, but no chance of further worsening the injury.

Ankle in the 3rd inning:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041020/capt.nyy13410200255.alcs_red_sox_yankees_nyy134.jp g

Ankle later:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041020/capt.nyy12910200250.alcs_red_sox_yankees_nyy129.jp g

I'm not trying to take away from what Schilling did. He pitched a great game tonight and hats off to him, but you mean to tell there's nothing that could happen out on the field that could possibly further injure that ankle. If that's the fucking case then what's the all the hoopla about? On one hand you make as if what Schilling did was a great act of heroism on the other hand you make his injury sound like it was nothing worse than a sprained ankle.

[FrankySox]

The sox are going to take it, this is their year, they have fought hard to get back in it, and they will take it.

[MorbidAngel4Life]

I wonder when the Cubs are going to win it again. Its been 100 years hasnt it?

[dafoomie]

You clearly do not understand, and don't want to.

You can't make the injury worse than it is. But it is not only very painful, it destabilizes the ankle so that he can't push off properly, or get enough force from it.

You'll do anything to try and nitpick or criticize something because you lost. Theres probably nothing I can say to you that'll change your mind. But any rational human being will see those pictures and recognize that Schilling is a MAN for going out there tonight, and anyone with knowledge of the injury will know that it can't get worse. If it happened to you or me, we'd be in a cast. After the season, Schilling will need surgery, will be in a cast for 6-8+ weeks, and will need 6-8+ weeks of rehab. He may be out for the first month of spring training, or as late as opening day. But he can gut it out and pitch, in extreme pain, discomfort, and without full strength in the ankle, without making the injury worse.

If you don't believe me, heres a New York paper.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spcurt144006008oct14,0,5285538.story?coll=ny-nyc-sports-headlines

"...additional pitching didn't put Schilling at risk for additional injury to the leg. But Morgan also indicated that postponing Schilling's next start would have no eventual benefit."

Sorry, I get emotional about the Redsox.

[biggestinuyashafan]

i hope the sox win. i hate the yankees, lakers, and patriots. i can't stand any of them.

[dafoomie]

Whats wrong with the Patriots? They don't lose enough?

[dcfox]

Okay clearly I don't understand, and its not that I don't want to. But this has nothing to do with me being a Yankees fan or the Yankees losing tonight, I was speaking out of concern for Schilling's well being, if choose to believe me. I look at those pictures and I see a guy bleeding out of his sock and as you said most likely in serious pain. Without knowledge of the specifics of the injury, I took the assumption that can't be good for anybody.

I said in my last post hats off to Schilling for pitching a great game, and I mean that sincerely. I might have come off sounding like a dick in my previous posts but I'd like to think that I'm big enough to give credit where credit is due. And again I say kudos to Schillings and kudos to the Sox medical staff. With that said I wish Schilling the best and hope he has quick recovery.

[dafoomie]

I probably bit your head off... I get really emotional about the Redsox. Sorry about that.

It'll be a great game tomorrow though, any word on who is starting for the Yankees?

[rickc25]

Redsox.com says Lowe vs. Brown

[dcfox]

What can I say, we Bostonians are passionate about our sports. And the Yankees' website has Brown listed as starting tomorrow's game.

[dafoomie]

I like passionate Yankees fans a lot more than wishy-washy west coast fans.

So Lowe vs Brown, next two pitchers will probably be Wakefield and Vasquez or El Duque. Arroyo might get an inning or two if he can.

Foulke is the only reliever I see as being unavailable, Embree and Timlin pitched a lot but got tonight off, we can get at least an inning each out of them. Rivera and Gordon got to rest today too though.

[Monsta Mack]

Man game seven is gonna be so huge, and im working in retail tomorrow. But luckily we have radio right next my electronics reg.

It's too bad I'll miss the first three hours of it, but I might leave work early just to watch more of it. This is the biggest game ever for me as a Red Sox fan, bigger then last years because the Sox put on miracles the last three games.

I'm glad Wakefield isn't pitching asap, I have nightmares from last years game still.

[Rig]

Boston vs. Houston in the World Series. I really hate the Cards and Yanks, and I love Boston.

[Monsta Mack]

That would be nice. Can't wait to see Clemens pitching in boston, but on the opposing team again. Wonder what kind of reaction the boston fans would give him.

[dafoomie]

I want to see Roger Clemens pitch in Fenway in the World Series... Wow.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

I want to see Roger Clemens pitch in Fenway in the World Series... Wow.

That would be something to see.

[dcfox]

I love Clemens. My dream would be to have Clemens return to Boston and win a World Series here then retire. That's the only time I would want the Sox to take it all. But then of course the year after the Yankees would win it.

[dafoomie]

Wonder what kind of reaction the boston fans would give him.
Ro-ger, Ro-ger, Ro-ger...

[rmewpm]

http://espn.starwave.com/media/mlb/2004/1019/photo/a_rodriguez_il.jpg

[jlarlee]

I must say I was impressed with the umpires. They had a few conferences and got the calls right.

[Rich]

I wonder where all the Yankees fans are, except for dcfox. I was here after the 19-8 loss.

No wonder why he'd dare criticize one of the most heroic pitching performances in the history of baseball. Why don't you call out Kevin Brown for setting a bad example for not only pitching with a broken hand, but breaking it himself against a cement wall?

You see, there's this thing I do I call it sleep, I don't know what you call it. Then when my sleeping is done, I go to this place I like to call school. All the while, I was not posting on CAG. Why open your mouth? The Sox haven't won yet.

I hate Brown for what he did, so don't put fucking words in my mouth or the mouths of Yankee fans. And Schlling could have worsened the ankle, I have o idea where the fuck your info is coming from.

[Rich]

I like passionate Yankees fans a lot more than wishy-washy west coast fans.


I spent the most part of the summer in Boston, and became really good friends with some Sox diehards. I love their fans, I just hate the team, which is not the case for Yankees fans. People hate us and the team. Oh well, the price of winning I suppose.

I had to get pelted with dimes at a fucking Rangers/Sox game. Stupid hat. :( You never see that shit at the Stadium. You call us classless for throwing balls onto the field, but yet your fans beat the shit out of Yankee fans, physically, while we don't attack any Sox fans. (verbal is fair game) A Sox fan was thrown out of the Stadium yesterday for picking a fight with a Yankee fan.

Yeah, Yankee fans are so classless.

[jdpimp]

Boston vs. Houston in the World Series. I really hate the Cards and Yanks, and I love Boston.

Why you hatin? I prefer legitimite reasons, thank you.

[ryanbph]

Foulke will be available tonight...Tito Francona was on WEEI, and said that if it is late in the game and we have a save opportunity Foulkie will be in their...he throws the same speed, and has had good location, he isn't affected...and will want the ball...that is what tito had to say and vazques was warming up last night, and he threw over 100 pitches back in game 3...I hope derek has his shit together tonight, and doesn't melt down

[ryanbph]

had to get pelted with dimes at a shaq-fuing Rangers/Sox game. Stupid hat. You never see that shit at the Stadium. You call us classless for throwing balls onto the field, but yet your fans beat the shit out of Yankee fans, physically, while we don't attack any Sox fans. (verbal is fair game) A Sox fan was thrown out of the Stadium yesterday for picking a fight with a Yankee fan.

Yeah, Yankee fans are so classless.


please, yankee fans are just as pathetic as sox fans...back in the day fans were throwing needles at players down in the bronx...if you can't keep your mouth shut at a game, while routing for an opposing team, then don't go...both sides are equally pathetic

[Bivensra]

In response to "keeping your mouth shut at a game" Fans are the tenth man in baseball and the eleventh man in football. That is why they call it home field advantage. Every stadium has a couple of fans who take it too far (drink a couple of seven dollar beers and be a die hard fan, things are bound to happen.) I am a huge Yankees fan but the pitching has concerned me since spring training. If the Sox win good for them BUT I hope that the Yanks can pull it off. Speaking of fans, I spent the last 3 years in Oakland and the Raider fans are like no others.

[jlarlee]

[quote="Bivensra"]In response to "keeping your mouth shut at a game" Fans are the tenth man in baseball and the eleventh man in football. quote]

check your math man football has 11 players on the field therefore the fans would be the twelth man

[dcfox]

Not to mention that in Track & Field, the fans are the second man. But home field advantage is more than just having rowdy fans. The advantage also comes from players knowing the playing field, climate, dimensions better than at a visiting stadium. Throwing stuff onto the field reflects badly on the team and city.

[dafoomie]

I hate Brown for what he did, so don't put shaq-fuing words in my mouth or the mouths of Yankee fans. And Schlling could have worsened the ankle, I have o idea where the shaq-fu your info is coming from.
How about Red Sox medical director Dr. Bill Morgan, and Newsday? I think I'd take his doctor's word for it over yours. Thats just me.

You never see that shit at the Stadium. You call us classless for throwing balls onto the field, but yet your fans beat the shit out of Yankee fans, physically, while we don't attack any Sox fans. (verbal is fair game) A Sox fan was thrown out of the Stadium yesterday for picking a fight with a Yankee fan.
Some friends of mine got spat on and had food and beer thrown at them. When was the last time you saw Redsox fans throwing stuff onto the field of play on that scale? They called to bring in the riot police. Thats pathetic.

[Zenithian Legend]

Well I bet there's 30 of you that feel pretty stupid right now, especially if you voted after game 1, 2 or 3.

[Bivensra]

To the Red Sox and the fans I say congrats. As a diehard historic Yankees fan (Babe Ruth, Gehrig, Reggie Jackson, Billy Martin, Paul O'Neil, Jeter, etc) I hope they can win the whole thing. This is a hard thing for a true Yankees fan to say, but the better team won. Heads are going to roll and this should be the kick in the pants to not just get bats b/ young good pitchers. I am from Ohio where we have OSU vs Michigan a true rivalry and live in LA where there is UCLA vs USC. The Yankees/Red Sox rivalry will be that much better once the CURSE is truely lifted and that will happen w/ a World Series victory. The Yanks still have 26 championships, more than any other team in professional sports. Come on Red Sox, you have a lot of catching up to do :evil: Trust me, next year will be different due to the changes that started last night. I've heard that Giambi is catching heat and if this is true it is not fair. The guys had been ill.