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Chronis
12-20-2009, 10:43 PM
Let's face it, the biggest reasons that FMV games failed back in the day were 1) bad video quality, 2) limited storage space, and 3) bad acting. The first two have been eliminated due to upgrades in technology. I'm pretty sure nobody even knows what 640x480 looks like anymore, and that was GOOD at the time. Plus, with the advances in bluray (and DVDs i guess, for you guys still stuck in the stone age), not only we we be able to have high definition video, we'll be able to have many different cutscenes, meaning the game doesn't ahve to be completely linear. As for the last point, sure the possibility of bad acting is still there, but with the costs of making a game nowadays, is any company going to allow something that isn't at least decent to be released? Then consider a big company doing this. EA won't care how many takes it takes, shit better get done and get done right.

Discuss.

vrblknch
12-20-2009, 10:50 PM
Give me some examples of FMV games? R u talking about the digitized/pixelated cd type games? What kind of game was Dragon's Lair? I think it was a laserdisc in a arcade cabinet. I def think 2D HD mature animation would make for some killer games. Even Lunar style full anime games would be nice. A game like Heavy Rain (context prompts/story based) would seem to benefit from this presentation style. My fave art direction this gen is fau-cell shading ala Borderlands and anything Suda makes. Favorite character design is anything MegaTen.

Jesus_S_Preston
12-20-2009, 10:54 PM
Get out

SpazX
12-20-2009, 11:02 PM
What? Why?

Die in a fire.

bigdaddybruce44
12-20-2009, 11:11 PM
Give me some examples of FMV games?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FMV-based_games

Some FMV games were damn good. Ripper, Wing Commander III, and Ground Zero Texas were among my favorites.



Yeah, I'm kidding about Ground Zero Texas.

Halo05
12-20-2009, 11:16 PM
Wasn't Wing Commander III just the same as the other WC games but with FMV cutscenes? I have no problem with that.

As far as games utilizing FMV as the main draw or main gameplay element, oh hell no. It's bad enough that I have to wade through them to find decent Sega CD games, I don't want to do it again on a whole new crop of systems.

bigdaddybruce44
12-20-2009, 11:18 PM
Depends on how you want to define an FMV game. The two types usually get clumped together. Judging from the OP's post, it seems like he is focused more on the video aspect of using FMV than the gameplay.

Cao Cao
12-20-2009, 11:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFKylgGk73I

bigdaddybruce44
12-20-2009, 11:21 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...n ight's complete...

keithp
12-20-2009, 11:25 PM
Bring back Tex Murphy!

lokizz
12-20-2009, 11:53 PM
i just want more zombie games with actual zombies in them and a 28 days/weeks later game where your ability to run is set by the amount of stamina you have. and should you be infected you have unlimited stamina.and the ability to spit blood at people at will.

bigdaddybruce44
12-20-2009, 11:56 PM
You know what games actually had pretty decent FMVs? The Strike games (Soviet and Nuclear) on the PlayStation. I was so damn disappointed when Future Strike became Future Cop LAPD.

Paco
12-21-2009, 12:03 AM
Let's face it, the biggest reasons that FMV games failed back in the day were 1) bad video quality, 2) limited storage space, and 3) bad acting. The first two have been eliminated due to upgrades in technology. I'm pretty sure nobody even knows what 640x480 looks like anymore, and that was GOOD at the time. Plus, with the advances in bluray (and DVDs i guess, for you guys still stuck in the stone age), not only we we be able to have high definition video, we'll be able to have many different cutscenes, meaning the game doesn't ahve to be completely linear. As for the last point, sure the possibility of bad acting is still there, but with the costs of making a game nowadays, is any company going to allow something that isn't at least decent to be released? Then consider a big company doing this. EA won't care how many takes it takes, shit better get done and get done right.

Discuss.

People still know what 640x480 is. It's called a Nintendo Wii. And they never died out. Japan has em en masse and they're called hentai and dating I believe.

MarkMan
12-21-2009, 12:17 AM
One of my favorite FMV type games was D. Good shit.

Paco
12-21-2009, 12:27 AM
One of my favorite FMV type games was D. Good shit.


You chose bad and you should FEEL BAD. D while it had an interesting story, the game moved so god damn slow. Gabriel Knight The Beast Within is the best FMV game ever made.

MarkMan
12-21-2009, 12:32 AM
At the time, it was the bees knees. I'm sure it has shitified over the years ;)

Sycowulf
12-21-2009, 12:40 AM
I may be the only one, but I have to admit i had fun with games like Mad Dog Mcree and Crime Patrol in the arcades... Also had some fun with Braindead 13, Phantasmagoria, and Psychic Detective (yes, I know the last one is terrible but I liked it for some reason). I would definitely give a new fmv game at least one shot, if for nothing else but the novelty of it.

c4tp
12-21-2009, 12:42 AM
Bring back Tex Murphy!

Apparently they are!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tex_Murphy#Future_plans

msdmoney
12-21-2009, 02:06 AM
I feel 100% the opposite. FMV games were a result of a sudden increase in storage space with cd's and confusion over how stories should be told in games. Unfortunately games are still trying to copy movies, but luckily the fmv is something that has largely died.

icebeast
12-21-2009, 02:26 AM
All I have to say is Sewer Shark...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIApQrr5INE

Paco
12-21-2009, 03:51 AM
All I have to say is Sewer Shark...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIApQrr5INE


That's cheating. You have to show the Sega CD one in all its MAGNIFICENT GLORY

KingDox
12-21-2009, 04:58 AM
I kinda have a soft spot for rebel assault games. They were made back during a time there was no new starwars and the idea that there would be more startwars movies were just the dreams of fanboys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrnuGT5KxnU

blueshinra
12-21-2009, 09:07 AM
FMV games were a result of a sudden increase in storage space with cd's and confusion over how stories should be told in games.
Nah, they were around well before that; it's just that the CD-ROM format helped popularize them. For example, there's the aforementioned Dragon's Lair, which first came out all the way back in 1983, and there were even VCR games (http://fmvworld.com/vcr.html) - anyone else remember those?

scarfromaguitar
12-21-2009, 09:20 AM
You guys should check out the hysteria project for the iPhone and iPod touch... It was actually pretty fun lol

keithp
12-21-2009, 11:47 AM
Apparently they are!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tex_Murphy#Future_plans

Ah, cool, I'll have to keep an eye on that. Thanks!

By the way you can D/L the first two games FREE at GOG! link (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/tex_murphy_1_2)

fart_bubble
12-22-2009, 12:36 AM
and there were even VCR games (http://fmvworld.com/vcr.html) - anyone else remember those?

damn, now I'm trying to remember the name of that light gun game that used videotapes and a TV show.

Sycowulf
12-22-2009, 12:42 AM
Wasn't it Captain Power? The one with the ship and the red and blue flashing things on the screen that you would shoot... god I haven't even thought of that in at least 20 years, I used to love it

fart_bubble
12-22-2009, 12:51 AM
Wasn't it Captain Power? The one with the ship and the red and blue flashing things on the screen that you would shoot... god I haven't even thought of that in at least 20 years, I used to love it

that's it. I knew it had Power somewhere in the title but couldn't remember the rest. That thing was hot shit when it was released......only to have I want to say 5 episodes run before it was canceled.

Sarang01
12-22-2009, 01:13 AM
There was some FMV game I remember playing wherre you're trying to hunt down a Serial Killer I remember being good. It was called "Angel Devoid" or something like that.
"Braindead 13" I remember being quite good actually. It almost makes one wish it hit the arcade as well. I'll even go so far as to argue it's an underappreciated Bluth FMV game since it never hit the arcade. Remember the hot Salon Chick you screw up and make look like a hag in?
Also I've always wanted to play "Phantasmagoria" as I've heard it's good. Too bad it would never get remade or continued considering the sexual content. Yeah! That's what I want in my M rated game...violence! Sex is so bad, seeing all that red fly across the screen is so much better. Seriously I say have a mature rated game with nudity in it and possibly sex if you need to. When the parents complain ask them why their kid is playing it and then proceed to ask them if they think someone's head being shot off or being shot in the chest is healthier.

Puffa469
12-22-2009, 10:04 AM
Night Trap 2 starring Brittany Murphy!

Oh wait....


What? Too soon?

Jesus_S_Preston
12-22-2009, 10:11 AM
Night Trap 2 starring Brittany Murphy!

Oh wait....


What? Too soon?

http://www.mysoti.com/img/user/thirdwheel/product/web/190862/190862_show_default.png

lordxixor101
12-22-2009, 10:45 AM
Actually, I liked the Sega CD games. I enjoyed Night Trap, Ground Zero Texas, and my favorite, Mad Dog McGee (and of course Tomcat Alley).

I'm convinced these will never come back. Really though, with graphical improvements now, I'm not sure there is a need. The big thing back then was that live action 'looked' real. Now, of course, you can run around in the ruined cities of Gears of War 2 (or countless other games) and get lost feeling the realism.

So, though I would enjoy it, I don't see it ever happening.

MCalvert1
12-22-2009, 10:54 AM
I liked Dragon's Lair, Time Gal, and Triad Stone/Strahl in their time. They're annoying to play now, but I enjoyed the animation. Never tried Space Ace or DL2, and I'm sure I wouldn't like them now. I picked up the DVD version of Time Traveler and was really disappointed in that.

MjC

maingon
12-22-2009, 02:15 PM
I kinda have a soft spot for rebel assault games. They were made back during a time there was no new starwars and the idea that there would be more startwars movies were just the dreams of fanboys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrnuGT5KxnU


That has from watching it still held up pretty well over time. I loved that game when it first came out.

I wouldnt mind a game in that style coming out today in the star wars universe.

soonersfan60
12-22-2009, 04:13 PM
damn, now I'm trying to remember the name of that light gun game that used videotapes and a TV show.

You might be thinking of Captain Power (as mentioned above) since that went with a kids cartoon, but there was also Action Max. That had 5 different video tapes released for it with the hardest-to-find being the Blue Thunder movie/game which apprarently used actual movie footage. (I have the tape sealed, so never saw it or played it.)

BrettFarveRetired
12-22-2009, 10:37 PM
Like a lot of older gamers, I have a soft spot for these games, even the worst of them. They were simply just a massive leap from what we knew. I mean, you go from hopping around some 2D space and jumping on the heads of monsters...and suddenly you're tracking the trail of a serial killer through realistic-looking environments and having Christopher Walken threatening you.

fatbeer
12-22-2009, 10:47 PM
The most recent FMV game I played was Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law, which is basically a FMV version of Phoenix Wright. A lot of FMV type of games are just point and click type of games that gears closely towards cinematic experience then actual game play itself. I think these type of games suite really well with Nintendo Ds with a touch screen experience. Too bad the video and sound quality will suffer if that happens.

bigdaddybruce44
12-22-2009, 10:54 PM
Like a lot of older gamers, I have a soft spot for these games, even the worst of them. They were simply just a massive leap from what we knew. I mean, you go from hopping around some 2D space and jumping on the heads of monsters...and suddenly you're tracking the trail of a serial killer through realistic-looking environments and having Christopher Walken threatening you.

Indeed. It's easy for us to look back and laugh at the vast majority of them now. Hell, even the best of them are pretty funny to check out now. But yeah, at the time, it was like a revolution.

keithp
12-22-2009, 11:18 PM
Indeed. It's easy for us to look back and laugh at the vast majority of them now. Hell, even the best of them are pretty funny to check out now. But yeah, at the time, it was like a revolution.

Yeah, but you were still laughing at the bad acting in them even as you were marvelling at the realistic graphics!

MSUHitman
12-23-2009, 03:17 AM
Well if you have a PS3/PSP, the PS1 port of Wing Commander IV just got put on the PSN Store for $6.

c0rnpwn
12-23-2009, 03:27 AM
I kinda have a soft spot for rebel assault games. They were made back during a time there was no new starwars and the idea that there would be more startwars movies were just the dreams of fanboys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrnuGT5KxnU

God damn I love you for unearthing this. I think I still have my PC rebel assault CDs somewhere...

IAmTheCheapestGamer
12-23-2009, 09:42 AM
Let's face it, the biggest reasons that FMV games failed back in the day were 1) bad video quality, 2) limited storage space, and 3) bad acting. The first two have been eliminated due to upgrades in technology. I'm pretty sure nobody even knows what 640x480 looks like anymore, and that was GOOD at the time. Plus, with the advances in bluray (and DVDs i guess, for you guys still stuck in the stone age), not only we we be able to have high definition video, we'll be able to have many different cutscenes, meaning the game doesn't ahve to be completely linear. As for the last point, sure the possibility of bad acting is still there, but with the costs of making a game nowadays, is any company going to allow something that isn't at least decent to be released? Then consider a big company doing this. EA won't care how many takes it takes, shit better get done and get done right.

Discuss.

<shakes fist>:bomb: Damn you kids with your HDtv and your surround sound. My old Victrola is the only stereo I'll ever need and my small black and white tv is the only one I'll ever play anything on.:lol:

You know what games actually had pretty decent FMVs? The Strike games (Soviet and Nuclear) on the PlayStation. I was so damn disappointed when Future Strike became Future Cop LAPD.

I was quite annoyed with their changing the series into Future Cop as well. Although it was fun to change the mech into a ship and back again, but that was where the fun ended.:cry:

Chronis
01-16-2010, 07:46 PM
I totally forgot I made this thread....

Oh also, about the 640x480 comment, in my mind, I was thinking about computer monitor resolutions. I actually never had a Sega CD so my memories of FMV games aren't from that, but PC games.