View Full Version : Farscape Peacekeeper Wars, tonight at 9 on Sci-fi [SPOILERS]
Scrubking
10-17-2004, 05:29 AM
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The much fought for mini-series is going to air tonight after over 2 years of the shows cancelation. If you like science fiction do yourself a favor and watch this mini-series, and if you are a Farscape fan make sure to watch and help bring it back.
RavingGoat
10-17-2004, 05:34 AM
Thanks for the reminder. I loved that show.
Alpha2
10-17-2004, 05:59 AM
I'd all but given up hope when it finally went off the air. I'm happy enough just to see the miniseries, a revival of the series would break my mind.
ElfAngel7
10-17-2004, 12:23 PM
i hope they some how explain the hole they dug in the 'series-finale' (finale my ass)
Journey
10-17-2004, 12:33 PM
I watched the 1st and part of the 2nd seasons when they originaly aired. I loved the show, but kinda stopped watching it for some stupid reason.
Does anyone think that I'll be lost when I tune in to watch the mini-series?
I watched the 1st and part of the 2nd seasons when they originaly aired. I loved the show, but kinda stopped watching it for some stupid reason.
Does anyone think that I'll be lost when I tune in to watch the mini-series?
And how! I suggest going to somewhere like http://www.farscapeworld.com/episodes/ and brushing up a bit.
Scrubking
10-17-2004, 07:27 PM
Two and a half hours left!!
zionoverfire
10-17-2004, 07:31 PM
So if this does they might bring back farscape weill I'll all for that, in fact I hope they bring it back and kill off star gate.
epobirs
10-17-2004, 07:35 PM
So if this does they might bring back farscape weill I'll all for that, in fact I hope they bring it back and kill off star gate.
What do you have against Stargate? Farscape didn't die because of Stargate or any decision at SciFi Channel, for that matter. It was a pawn in a financial cial war between the producers at the people who'd acquired ownership of Henson. A cable outlet can't schedule stuff with a questionable certainty of delivery and had little choice but to drop it.
Admiral Ackbar
10-17-2004, 07:41 PM
I was reading a paper earlier and they were interviewing Ben Briowder. DO you know he's 41! He's in his friggin' forties! I thought he was in his early to mid thirties.
I remember flipping through the channels one day and I saw him on A&E in an old Murder She Wrote from the Eighties. But I thought that might have been one of his first roles and hye was a teen. He must have been in his mid to late twenties when he did that.
Scrubking
10-17-2004, 07:44 PM
Didn't know that. Ben's the man, though.
epobirs
10-17-2004, 07:45 PM
IMDB always turns up interesting trivia. Look up Christopher Judge and note one of his earliest screen credits would later have a much more important effect on his career.
Scrubking
10-17-2004, 07:55 PM
Just thought I would share some of the great press Farscape the peacekeeper wars is getting:
"The Houston Chronicle
'Farscape' wraps up galactic travels, Chauncey Mabe
You need not be a fanatical follower of the show in order to relish this miniseries. All you need is a taste for science fiction.
Production values and special effects are near big-screen in quality. The script, by David Kemper and series creator Rockne S. O'Bannon, is full of wit, irony and sexy jokes."
"USA Today
A reconstituted 'Farscape' returns, Robert Bianco
What separates Farscape from the far duller sci-fi norm is its belief that characters in space should be as complicated and sometimes as irritating as they would be on Earth. They have conflicting emotions and goals, good days and bad days, and even a sense of humor. They're fully alive, right up to the moment they're not, and that's a warning for fans to brace themselves.
Good job, Scapers. Enjoy your handiwork."
"Salt Lake City Weekly
Tales of the Scape, Bill Frost
Even worse, Sci-Fi has canceled some excellent scripted series to make way for this crap—most notably Farscape, which got the ax in 2002 after four critically drooled-over seasons and more sci-fi awards than you could shake a flax net at. It was also the channel's longest-running series and first-ever foray into original programming, ironically. Sci-Fi cited falling viewership and rising production costs as the deciding factors, sending Farscape fans into a Save-Our-Show Internet frenzy. Since those usually have the lifespan of a red-shirted Star Trek away-team member, Farscape looked as good as dead.
Lo and behold, however, the geeks have prevailed: Farscape: The Peacekeeper Wars (Sci-Fi; premieres Sunday, Oct. 17), a four-hour two-part miniseries wrapping up the loose ends and possibly setting the stage for a regular-series comeback, exists only because of rabid, grassroots fan efforts."
More press bites at www.savefarscape.com
Scrubking
10-18-2004, 12:23 AM
WOW! It was fucking amazing!
You could tell that they were trying to cram a lot of stuff in the short amount of time, but it was still great.
The finale is tomorrow at 9
Well, I like the direction the story is going so far, but I wish they hadn't had to compress this arc into so short a time.
Scrubking
10-18-2004, 12:29 AM
Well, I like the direction the story is going so far, but I wish they hadn't had to compress this arc into so short a time.
Yeah, this is basically season 5 compressed into 4 hours. I just hope this mini will spark another season or at least more minis.
Skylander7
10-18-2004, 12:33 AM
hmmm... too bad I'll be in class tomorrow when the finale airs, but I'm sure it'll be re-ran a thousand times or so. Anybody know if they still plan to make a series out of the whole Battlestar Gallactica thing?
Scrubking
10-18-2004, 12:36 AM
Anybody know if they still plan to make a series out of the whole Battlestar Gallactica thing?
Yeah, they announced the series during Farscape tonight.
Huh. So Peacekeepers are actually humans, just artificially evolved. Nice.
Skylander7
10-18-2004, 12:38 AM
Anybody know if they still plan to make a series out of the whole Battlestar Gallactica thing?
Yeah, they announced the series during Farscape tonight.
Great... I must've missed it while I've been dozing in and out tonight thanks to this freakin flu. At least I found a way to not need a flu shot... catch it early on.
Scrubking
10-18-2004, 12:40 AM
Huh. So Peacekeepers are actually humans, just artificially evolved. Nice.
It went by so quick I almost missed it. I wish they could expand on that. I think it is a good direction.
I have to say I cracked up during the chalkboard scene and John's little message!!
Huh. So Peacekeepers are actually humans, just artificially evolved. Nice.
It went by so quick I almost missed it. I wish they could expand on that. I think it is a good direction.
I have to say I cracked up during the chalkboard scene and John's little message!!
I was laughing at the peace talks (before they got shot up by Akna). Seeing the Scarran Emperor, John & co and Scorpius all sitting around, almost slumber party-like, was just too good.
Alpha2
10-18-2004, 12:49 AM
They were kinda suggesting the genetic relation in the begining of the last season when they first picked up the old crazy woman.
As for the New BSG, GOD I hope that dies a quick painful death, the pilot was a roaring turd, horribly written and disgustingly predictable not to mention full of worthless pointless sex. (bad sex incase you;re wondering).
They were kinda suggesting the genetic relation in the begining of the last season when they first picked up the old crazy woman.
As for the New BSG, GOD I hope that dies a quick painful death, the pilot was a roaring turd, horribly written and disgustingly predictable not to mention full of worthless pointless sex. (bad sex incase you;re wondering).
It makes me wonder what weird evolutionary path the Sebaceans took from us to bring about the heat sensitivity and parapheral nerve.
Scrubking
10-18-2004, 08:30 AM
the pilot was a roaring turd, horribly written and disgustingly predictable not to mention full of worthless pointless sex
Even though I don't totally agree with you you have to consider that:
1. They are trying to cram an entire season's story into 4 hours
2. They are a bit rusty after not doing anything Farscape for, um, OVER 2 YEARS
3. They are trying to attract a new audience so that we all can have more Farscape
the pilot was a roaring turd, horribly written and disgustingly predictable not to mention full of worthless pointless sex
Even though I don't totally agree with you you have to consider that:
1. They are trying to cram an entire season's story into 4 hours
2. They are a bit rusty after not doing anything Farscape for, um, OVER 2 YEARS
3. They are trying to attract a new audience so that we all can have more Farscape
No no, he was talking about the Battle Star Galactica pilot from last year.
hiccupleftovers
10-18-2004, 02:29 PM
WOW! It was shaq-fuing amazing!
I loved every bit of it yesterday even though it seemed a little crammed. I love all the directions they were taking with the series. I love the dialogue of the show. THe dialogue is some of the best I have ever seen in a show.
Scrubking
10-18-2004, 03:51 PM
They totally got me with the whole peace thing, then they kill all the priests! Wow, I guess no peace now.
Alpha2
10-18-2004, 03:58 PM
Yeah I was Hating at Buttle Stain Gallecktica.
I totally have nothing but love for Farscape. If they dont make it a series again I'll be a very sad panda but I certainly wouldn't mind more Mini-series
big_squirtle
10-18-2004, 04:03 PM
I hope this doesn't turn in to a "V" type mine-series. Where the story is great and then they crap it by making a baby from both worlds (John and Aerins), be the only hope for peace. That would totally blow.
Scrubking
10-18-2004, 04:11 PM
Actually I think that John is gonna blow both the peacekeepers and the scarans to hell with a wormhole bomb, but we'll find out tonight at 9pm.
soulyogurt
10-18-2004, 04:16 PM
The played a BattleStar Gallactica commercial for the new series a couple of weeks ago. Maybe a week ago. I caught like the last millisecond, just before it cut to black or whatever was next. I'm glad that was confirmed and hope they will address the many concerns fans had with the mini when they write the series. They can backtrack a little bit, I think.
I thought Farscape was great, can't wait to watch tonight. But yeah, it was really compressed... I'm hoping they went ahead and filmed some of the intervening stuff for an expanded DVD release. But given that one of the issues with the original show was it's great expense and the fact that they are hoping to ressurect the series, I doubt they will.
But one can hope.
Only one problem with all this SciFi original series crap... someday we're going to get some horrible crossover. Maybe it won't be the Farscape crew starbursting into the Galactica's convoy, but something bad will happen at some point. Mark my words.
Scrubking
10-18-2004, 06:33 PM
Here is a message Claudia Black posted on the Sci-fi boards today.
Well hello there and with a tingle down my spine, I say, "Welcome Back"!
The buzz about the miniseries has been amazing. The press have been more than kind ( I suspect fan bribery)
And what the frell has happened to this website? I feel very old and dumb. This is all fancy now and I feel like Aeryn saying in TGIF that science is really hard....
So...... we'll have lots to talk about at Burnbank, won't we?
I just wanted to say hello and thank you to you all for creating this extraordinary opportunity for me to work with my friends again and give us a chance to keep these timeless characters afloat. This would not have been possible without you.
In fact, this is 100 percent FOR YOU.
So sit back , put your feet up, grab some hankies and enjoy Night two... it's a doozie!
I know what happens and you don't yet...
I know a song that gets on everybody's nerves...
I know a song that gets on everybody's nerves....
I am sooooooooooooooo excited for you guys.
Lots of love to you from your
Officer Aeryn Sun,
aka Claudia xo
LINK (http://mboard.scifi.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=193154&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#193154)
And now, the end... (central time, anyway.)
Scrubking
10-19-2004, 07:23 AM
I think the mini was great, but for all of its Farscape moments it didn't feel like Farscape a lot of the time for me. I think the cramming hurt the mini and they shouldn't have tried to do so much in such a short time.
And If I hear the word "peace" one more time I am going to vomit - they definitely overused that word.
Well it wrapped up most of the plot threads they had been working on nicely. Some things to consider yet:
1. The Nebari menace. It seems that there'd be no better time for them to make a grab for that region of space than now that both the Peacekeeper and Scarran armadas are demolished.
2. They still have to put Rygel back in power, which should be difficult again, given that his cousin surely won't want him back now that there's no crisis and he controls the Hynerian navy.
3. It's unclear if Crichton still has wormhole knowledge. The Ancients certainly took the weapon parts back, but I didn't get the impression that they took the rest of it too, which would be nice. It would be a shame for Dargo Jr. to never see his grandpa and aunt.
4. John and Aeryn still have to find a little out of the way planet to settle down on and live out their lives together, which will actually happen according to a short O'Bannon wrote for Farscape magazine a year or two ago. Apparently the translator microbes extend John's lifespan to Sebacean levels. It totally flies in the face of The Locket, but I'll take that episode as a flub instead of the idea of J and A living happily ever after for a century plus.
Scrubking
10-19-2004, 12:12 PM
If they wanted to they could just bring in another race that would kill off all the aidelons and promote war again or something like that. Farscape IS known for its twists. They could even bring D'argo back if they wanted to seeing how almost everyone has died and been brought back at some point. And of course we can't forget the baby which can always be stolen away and create a story of how crichton wants to find him and exact revenge.
A lot of possibilities are open so I'm not worried. We just have to worry about getting a new series started.
sying
10-19-2004, 12:37 PM
Claudia does look a tad bit older IMHO
hiccupleftovers
10-19-2004, 02:28 PM
What a great episode yesterday! Had me the whole time. Great episode but I think they butchered the word peace. Claudia (a.k.a. Aeryn Sun) did look a little older, creases and a couple wrinkles. It was very sad when D'Argo died that why, but it was cool to see him go out guns blazing. They never did truly show him die, so there mihgt be a chance he is alive. We all just made an inferrence.
What a great episode yesterday! Had me the whole time. Great episode but I think they butchered the word peace. Claudia (a.k.a. Aeryn Sun) did look a little older, creases and a couple wrinkles. It was very sad when D'Argo died that why, but it was cool to see him go out guns blazing. They never did truly show him die, so there mihgt be a chance he is alive. We all just made an inferrence.
Well, unless he was airlifted off the planet he got a-sploded along with it by the wormhole.
hiccupleftovers
10-19-2004, 02:59 PM
What a great episode yesterday! Had me the whole time. Great episode but I think they butchered the word peace. Claudia (a.k.a. Aeryn Sun) did look a little older, creases and a couple wrinkles. It was very sad when D'Argo died that why, but it was cool to see him go out guns blazing. They never did truly show him die, so there mihgt be a chance he is alive. We all just made an inferrence.
Well, unless he was airlifted off the planet he got a-sploded along with it by the wormhole.
Yaeh but there is that slight chance.....i mean you never know.
Scrubking
10-19-2004, 03:34 PM
Aeryn has died before, crichton has died before and rigel has died before - also maybe scorpious.
Don't forget crichton could go back in time and maybe save dargo or something. Seriously, the possibilities are endless. They could probably even clone him or something.
FrankieFiero
10-19-2004, 04:03 PM
Don't forget that the last we saw of Grunchlk (The Diagnosan's translator) he was crawling by a still breathing Sikozu. We thought Grunchlk was dead before too. That was one of the things that made Farscape great... the "Infinite Possibilities". I get the feeling that if there's another mini/movie/series we'll see D'Argo and Sikozu again.
Don't forget that the last we saw of Grunchlk (The Diagnosan's translator) he was crawling by a still breathing Sikozu. We thought Grunchlk was dead before too. That was one of the things that made Farscape great... the "Infinite Possibilities". I get the feeling that if there's another mini/movie/series we'll see D'Argo and Sikozu again.
Well all I know is that Anthony Simcoe has stated that D'Argo is dead and he's likely to be the expert.
On another note, were my eyes decieving me or was one of Harvey's secretaries in the wormhole weapons construction project fantasy Jenavian Charto, the Disruptor?
Scrubking
10-19-2004, 04:32 PM
Well all I know is that Anthony Simcoe has stated that D'Argo is dead and he's likely to be the expert.
He didn't want D'argo to die in the first place, and I'm pretty sure if they asked him to come back he wouldn't hesitate.
I believe that Farscape is so up in the air right now that anything can happen. We just have to see what the ratings say and then go from there.
soulyogurt
10-19-2004, 04:33 PM
jmcc, what is your avatar? Phantom of Lawn Maintenance?
I thought the mini was all right, and didn't really mind them killing Dargo (though he was one of my favorites). I would have been more disappointed if the entire cast had made it through unscathed. I mean, come on. I'd have offed Stark and the witch lady before doing in Dargo, I guess, but it let them name the child after him, and that was nice.
It was very very busy... Pacing was too furious, I'd have rather they spent more time on the feel of the series than on wrapping up all they did and they could have created a lot more open threads than they did if they really intend to pursue a new series, or more minis. They kind of neatly wrapped up the peacekepper war and the whole wormhole thing, and the peace-oozing alien mess. The only stuff they didn't realy resolve was the stuff about Hyneria, and to be honest, it would be nice to see them address some of the puppet's cultural and historical stuff. We've been hearing about it in bits and pieces almost as much as the wormhole crap has been mentioned, though of course, only by Rygel. And it will allow a whole new realm for adventures in a new series. (I missed much of the last season and a half, and am only catching up an episode here and there... did they ever go to Hyneria?)
Too much peace talk.
I missed the old wailing theme music stuff.
I absolutely loved John shoving everyone's face into the yawning maw of the abyss, revisting his point of last episode: "...this is your galaxy on wormholes."
I want more.
hiccupleftovers
10-19-2004, 04:36 PM
I get the feeling that if there's another mini/movie/series we'll see D'Argo and Sikozu again.
Yaeh, I get that same feeling as well. I thought during the mini series yesterday that Crichton would go back in time by using the wormhole to save D'Argo but it didn't happen.
Scrubking
10-19-2004, 04:39 PM
Well the Peacekeeper Wars DVD is already in the works. Here are the details ripped from farscapeworld:
Packing over 4 Hours of show, plus extras, onto a single DVD (I hope that's double-sided!), this release will arrive on 1/18/05 and go for just $19.98 SRP. Extras are:
* "The Making of The Peacekeeper Wars " (30-minutes)
* Interactive Conceptual Art Gallery
* Authentic Production Storyboards
* Spacecraft Gallery
* And much, much more!
Lion's Gate tells us that the specs on this are: Widescreen Video, English 5.1 Dolby Audio, English 2.0 Surround Audio, and English & Spanish Subtitles.
http://207.234.209.30/savegord.com/news4/Farscape_PeacekeeperWars.jpg
Alpha2
10-19-2004, 04:42 PM
Man, I have to hurry up and finish my DVD collection of the last season!
jmcc, what is your avatar? Phantom of Lawn Maintenance?
It's the logo of my favorite Pro-Thunderball team: The Lancaster Amish Rakefighters.
edit: for those wondering about Thunderball check here. (http://www.uprightcitizens.org/11/rules.html)
hiccupleftovers
10-19-2004, 04:43 PM
Well the Peacekeeper Wars DVD is already in the works. Here are the details ripped from farscapeworld:
Packing over 4 Hours of show, plus extras, onto a single DVD (I hope that's double-sided!), this release will arrive on 1/18/05 and go for just $19.98 SRP. Extras are:
* "The Making of The Peacekeeper Wars " (30-minutes)
* Interactive Conceptual Art Gallery
* Authentic Production Storyboards
* Spacecraft Gallery
* And much, much more!
Lion's Gate tells us that the specs on this are: Widescreen Video, English 5.1 Dolby Audio, English 2.0 Surround Audio, and English & Spanish Subtitles.
http://207.234.209.30/savegord.com/news4/Farscape_PeacekeeperWars.jpg
Reminds me for some reason of what they did with the Dune series, ala Dune and Children of Dune. I got hurry up and finish my Farscape collection.
I haven't heard anything relating to the second half, but the first half's initial run failed to beat season 4's highest ratings, so I'd say a new run is pretty much a non-issue, unless they change SciFi's leadership or something to someone who doesn't like to churn out cheap and crappy shows that perform just as well.
hiccupleftovers
10-19-2004, 05:01 PM
Where'd you hear about the ratings already jmcc?
Where'd you hear about the ratings already jmcc?
Farscapeworld.com's forums. They're usually pretty reliable. Or they were during the show's run.
This thread, specifically: http://www.farscapeworld.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2786
hiccupleftovers
10-19-2004, 05:14 PM
Oh jmcc, because I have heard from other sites that the first night's were quite phenomenal in terms of ratings are concered. It got tons of great reviews. I would believe you though since they really didn't market it that well.
They might be wrong. I haven't heard any official announcements so far.
Scrubking
10-19-2004, 05:25 PM
Well, Farscape was doomed to never return before and it came back so I will continue to have hope until Henson officially puts it to rest.
Well, Farscape was doomed to never return before and it came back so I will continue to have hope until Henson officially puts it to rest.
Reading through another thread on that board made an interesting point. According to the poster this was just the first chapter of the story. The whole thing is meant to end with Crichton's grandchildren.
hiccupleftovers
10-19-2004, 05:33 PM
I have a question for all of you out there that are Farscape fans, since Henson owns the rights to the Farscape license I beleive, do they have to just show the show on SciFi channel or can they go to other channels like HBO or TBS or TNT to broadcast it?
I have a question for all of you out there that are Farscape fans, since Henson owns the rights to the Farscape license I beleive, do they have to just show the show on SciFi channel or can they go to other channels like HBO or TBS or TNT to broadcast it?
I think SciFi has renewed broadcast rights to it again for a while, so Farscape is locked in there for the foreseeable future. After that Henson can shop it around.
Scrubking
10-19-2004, 05:57 PM
Well, Farscape was doomed to never return before and it came back so I will continue to have hope until Henson officially puts it to rest.
Reading through another thread on that board made an interesting point. According to the poster this was just the first chapter of the story. The whole thing is meant to end with Crichton's grandchildren.
Interesting stuff, but I wouldn't want to see a spin-off just yet. I feel the current story has lots of potential.
Also, do no other CAGers like science fiction? Don't gaming and sci-fi go hand in hand?
hiccupleftovers
10-19-2004, 06:03 PM
Well, Farscape was doomed to never return before and it came back so I will continue to have hope until Henson officially puts it to rest.
Reading through another thread on that board made an interesting point. According to the poster this was just the first chapter of the story. The whole thing is meant to end with Crichton's grandchildren.
Interesting stuff, but I wouldn't want to see a spin-off just yet. I feel the current story has lots of potential.
Also, do no other CAGers like science fiction? Don't gaming and sci-fi go hand in hand?
They do I just don't think any of them are as into it as we are. I love anything scifi, well mostly. I've read tons and tons of it.
epobirs
10-19-2004, 06:17 PM
I have a question for all of you out there that are Farscape fans, since Henson owns the rights to the Farscape license I beleive, do they have to just show the show on SciFi channel or can they go to other channels like HBO or TBS or TNT to broadcast it?
SciFi Channel has right of first refusal. Keep in mind SciFi is owned by the same people who a big chunk of the cable spectrum, so if SciFi doesn't want it there aren't all that many others in line.
The problem has never really been at SciFi Channel. They didn't pull the plug until they were put in a very precarious position due to the financial dealing within the then owner of Henson. It is very scary to have tens of millions of dollars and a major piece of your programming schedule potentially held hostage in somebody else's fight. The Germans were perfectly willing to let Farscape become a casualty in this fight since it was way down on the list of reason for buying HA in the first place.
Although the ratings may not have been stellar the real make or break of this rides on the DVD sales. The broadcast airtime ad sales business is showing signs of collapse while the revenues from DVDs derived from broadcast and cable TV are growing. This is making a growing case for more production targeting the home video market directly with a different schedule than the traditional US TV season.
Scrubking
10-19-2004, 07:08 PM
Here are the ratings and an optomistic view of them from Gateworld.net
"Peacekeeper Wars scores on SCI FI
OCTOBER 19, 2004
The SCI FI Channel scored a ratings victory with the mini-series event Farscape: The Peacekeeper Wars, earning the number one spot among non-cable networks for the time period this past Sunday and Monday nights among viewers 18-49 and 25-54. The two-part series averaged a 1.7 household rating.
Part one of the 4-hour mini-series earned a 1.5 household rating on Sunday, drawing more than 1.7 million viewers. Part two scored an even better 1.9 rating the following night, with more than 2 million viewers tuning in.
Hopefully, the ratings are strong enough to spur the network and the producers on toward creating more Farscape. The producers have previously stated that another mini-series, a feature film, or a spin-off television show are all possibilities, depending on how well The Peacekeeper Wars performed. Fans can frelling hope!
Farscape: The Peacekeeper Wars will air again this Sunday, October 24, starting at 3 p.m. Eastern/Pacific on SCI FI." (http://www.gateworld.net/news/generalnews.html#newsitem1098222986,92011,)
scaper1
09-02-2006, 07:53 PM
Hi all. I came across this thread by sheer fluke - I'm a big Farscape fan myself, and I thought some of you might be interested in the news that Television Without Pity is currently recapping all 88 eps of the series, to be followed by Peacekeeper Wars. The recaps are fantastic (the same recappers cover BSG, Doctor Who, Buffy, Veronica Mars) and really funny. Enjoy!
http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/articles/category_2797.html