Mortal Kombat VS Street Fighter

[alteredbeast]

Which do you prefer? Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter...taking into account all versions, sequels, prequels, off shoots, mini games and licensing mishaps.

[6669]

Street Fighter 2. It came first.

[punqsux]

street fighter...no question about it

[RandyTsai]

What's up with all the poll alteredbeast? Your a very curious guy.

[MadChedar0]

So many good memories of both I really can't choose. The last Street Fighter I've played is Super SF2: II Turbo and as for MK, the last one I really played was Ultimate MK3... The newer versions of each just seem whack IMO

[RandyTsai]

oh, vote for (HA-DO-KEN!)

[jlarlee]

Street Fighter and it isn't even close. The game play in MK is so shallow it is pretty much doing the same stale combos over and over again

[Gothic Walrus]

Street fighter requires much more skill and strategy. Beyond that, Mortal Kombat has one of the cheapest AI systems I've ever seen in a game.

[swetooth9]

SF all the way :)

[alteredbeast]

What's up with all the poll alteredbeast? Your a very curious guy.

Just questions that pop into my head....why are we here, how did it all start, how much control do we have or is it all fate, do people prefer Street Figther or Mortal Kombat...you know, the ususal.

[RedvsBlue]

Two words...Finish Him. I have a lot more fun with Mortal Kombat. I mean in reality there's only been 2 Street Fighters in the US. Street Fighter 2 and Steet Fighter 3. All they do is keep adding super hyper turbo 3rd strike pump ass extreme...

Also what strategy is there in Street Fighter that there isn't in Mortal Kombat? Have you even played the new one yet, or one at all?

Edit-Oh yeah and anyone can bring on the flame like Liu Kang lighting fire to Ryu's SNK knockoff ass.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Street Fighter hands down...however, of the two, MK did make a better transition to 3D IMO.

Edit: Also, where's my option for the King of Fighters series?

[el bobo]

I will have to go with MK, since it was, with SF, one of the games that changed the fighting genre forever.

[MasterLin1]

Two words...Finish Him. I have a lot more fun with Mortal Kombat. I mean in reality there's only been 2 Street Fighters in the US. Street Fighter 2 and Steet Fighter 3. All they do is keep adding super hyper turbo 3rd strike pump ass extreme...

Also what strategy is there in Street Fighter that there isn't in Mortal Kombat? Have you even played the new one yet, or one at all?

Don't forget the Alpha, EX, and VS series

[RandyTsai]

What's up with all the poll alteredbeast? Your a very curious guy.

Just questions that pop into my head....why are we here, how did it all start, how much control do we have or is it all fate, do people prefer Street Figther or Mortal Kombat...you know, the ususal.

Yah, like why are there centipedes in my vagina?

[punqsux]

Two words...Finish Him. I have a lot more fun with Mortal Kombat. I mean in reality there's only been 2 Street Fighters in the US. Street Fighter 2 and Steet Fighter 3. All they do is keep adding super hyper turbo 3rd strike pump ass extreme...

Also what strategy is there in Street Fighter that there isn't in Mortal Kombat? Have you even played the new one yet, or one at all?

Don't forget the Alpha, EX, and VS series

and street fighter 1 came out on pc.

and let us not forget street fighter: the movie :wink:

[Duo_Maxwell]

and let us not forget street fighter: the movie :wink:

hahaha, yeah I bet even Capcom wishes they could forget that one.

[CaseyRyback]

Street Fighter hands down...however, of the two, MK did make a better transition to 3D IMO.

Edit: Also, where's my option for the King of Fighters series?

if CAPCOM was to internally develop a 3D title, I think it would blow away an MK title.

and the Fatal Fury series( everything beyond 3) blows KOF out of the water

[alteredbeast]

Two words...Finish Him. I have a lot more fun with Mortal Kombat. I mean in reality there's only been 2 Street Fighters in the US. Street Fighter 2 and Steet Fighter 3. All they do is keep adding super hyper turbo 3rd strike pump ass extreme...

Also what strategy is there in Street Fighter that there isn't in Mortal Kombat? Have you even played the new one yet, or one at all?

Don't forget the Alpha, EX, and VS series

and street fighter 1 came out on pc.

and let us not forget street fighter: the movie :wink:

There are many reasons why there is more strategy in SF than MK. One is the combo system. SF, it is based on timing frames of animation, pressing the buttons at the percise moment. MK seris now has that Killer Instinct combo system, where you dial it in like playing Simon.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Street Fighter hands down...however, of the two, MK did make a better transition to 3D IMO.

Edit: Also, where's my option for the King of Fighters series?

if CAPCOM was to internally develop a 3D title, I think it would blow away an MK title.

It's quite possible...like the saying goes you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.

In the end, I don't think Capcom really cared about taking the SF series to 3D (or they were afraid to) and that's why they kept passing the buck off to Arika, who never even really proved the could make a good game, let alone a decent 3D fighter. I give Midway credit for not dogging it so much and actually making sure they created a decent fighter when the took MK to 3D.

[Rodimus]

I kinda liked Street Fighter EX3. I don't think it's as bad as people say it is. The Team Up attacks were really cool. But SF the Movie, that's a diffrent story. Vega with no MASK!!! What's up with that.

Mortal Kombat's cool, but like most people are saying Street Fighter all the way. I only really liked Mortal Kombat 1 & 2. But I've enjoyed most all the SF games.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Actually, the EX series wasn't too bad at first, but it grew stale and the tranisition to the next-generatoin was pretty terrible. I did actually enjoy EX Plus Alpha for PSX.

[captainfrizo]

I'd take Street Fighter 2 Turbo on the SNES over all the other Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat games.

I'd take Street Fighter Alpha 2 or 3 over the rest of the Street Fighter games and all the Mortal Kombat games.

Street Fighter all the way.

[Rodimus]

Actually, the EX series wasn't too bad at first, but it grew stale and the tranisition to the next-generatoin was pretty terrible. I did actually enjoy EX Plus Alpha for PSX.

True, I also liked the first EX. They also introduced some cool characters with intresting moves. Like D. Dark and Kairi.

[nikkai]

Street Fighter!

Where else was there an original game where it introduced the dragon punch which would basically kill the oponent in one hit. =D

Good times good times.

MK was fun and all, especially with the fatalities, but there's just not too much skill since it's so jumpy in frames. And the fact that you can sweep someone without touching them.... grr... (was just playing MK2 on the activision with a friend)

[guyver2077]

mk all the way

[BlueWingX]

I'm going with MK, mainly because I enjoy the storyline... Does SF even have a story? I think it does... Anyway, I know story is not the best reason to play a fighting game, but I generally suck at fighting games anyway, so I have to find something to enjoy...

[swetooth9]

the reason that i like sf more is b/c of the combat system...it just seems better than mk's fighting system...

and for the 3d thing, i have only played ex3 and i dont know if ex and ex2 were like this, but they didnt really go into 3d gaming since you couldnt sidestep, etc....they just made the characters 3d...so i dont think that comment about how mk was taken 3d and is better than sf in 3d...at least i think it was like that...

[MorPhiend]

SF for sure.

My favorite Street fighter: Street Fighter II - Champion Edition w/ Rainbow upgrade.

My favorite Mortal Kombat: Mortal Kombat II Ver. 1.4

Edit: Favorite home versions: SFIIT (SNES) and MKII (SNES).

[Trakan]

MK, without a doubt. I've had the most fun with this series. My favorite one would have to be MK Trilogy for the 64. :D

[GuilewasNK]

Which do you prefer? Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter...taking into account all versions, sequels, prequels, off shoots, mini games and licensing mishaps.

The only thing Mortal Kombat has on Street Fighter is that the first Mortal Kombat live action movie was very good. The live action Street Fighter Movie was awful.

The rest is not even close. The gameplay in Street Fighter has aged a lot better than the 2D MK series. I think the controls in the 2D MK series are better suited for a 3D game like MK: Deadly Alliance (which I thought was decent). What I would like to see is a 2D HANDDRAWN MK with slightly modified controls and combo system.

[MorPhiend]

MK, without a doubt. I've had the most fun with this series. My favorite one would have to be MK Trilogy for the 64. :D

I forgot all about Trilogy for the 64. That might actually be a bit better than MKII(SNES).

[Vtdgnca]

2d>3d fighters. I found the combos to be lame in MK DA so I'm going to have to wait for a price drop on MK Decreption.

[xzafixz]

This isn't even a fair fight, anyone with a brain will vote for Street Fighter, and everyone else (which isn't many) will vote for MK.

[dafoomie]

The question should be Street Fighter vs Fatal Fury/Samurai Showdown/KOF.

MK does not even come close in terms of gameplay. MK was a novelty compared to the stuff Capcom and SNK were putting out. This is like asking if you like Coke or RC Cola more.

[xzafixz]

The question should be Street Fighter vs Fatal Fury/Samurai Showdown/KOF.

MK does not even come close in terms of gameplay. MK was a novelty compared to the stuff Capcom and SNK were putting out. This is like asking if you like Coke or RC Cola more.

That really isn't a fair fight either, Capcom would whoop ass just on general purpose. So many more people know Capcom, which sucks because I prefer SNK style over Capcom.

[Ledhed]

I just got done playing Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike for 4 hours with some friends. I think it's pretty obvious where my allegiance lies.

[dafoomie]

That really isn't a fair fight either, Capcom would whoop ass just on general purpose. So many more people know Capcom, which sucks because I prefer SNK style over Capcom.
In current popularity, no. In gameplay/substance/how good the game *actually* is, then yes, its a fair comparison.

MK did not have great gameplay. It was a novelty because of the massive violence and the weird shit like Sub Zero's freeze. Theres no depth.

[deathcabforcutie]

i love both, but MK is just more brainless. plain old fun!

[Pylis]

I hate the 2D MK. Always have.

[xzafixz]

That really isn't a fair fight either, Capcom would whoop ass just on general purpose. So many more people know Capcom, which sucks because I prefer SNK style over Capcom.
In current popularity, no. In gameplay/substance/how good the game *actually* is, then yes, its a fair comparison.

MK did not have great gameplay. It was a novelty because of the massive violence and the weird shit like Sub Zero's freeze. Theres no depth.

I agree, it is a completely perfect comparison of gameplay, somone should make a poll, i'd actually be interested to see how that turns out.

[dafoomie]

SNK was more innovative but Capcom seemed more polished.. A lot of the stuff Capcom introduced, SNK did first. It was a great time for 2d Arcade fighters when this war was going on.

I like SNK myself, but Capcom is excellent (mostly).

[sblymnlcrymnl]

MK is much cooler.

[Ledhed]

A lot of the stuff Capcom introduced, SNK did first.

Can I get some examples? I can't think of anything that SNK did before Capcom, at least up until the last few years of KOF. Plus, that sentence seems like an oxymoron.

[Pylis]

Yeah, I always thought that Capcom was the innovator. And I'll agree that SNK had some great flare, but Capcom always had the stronger game engine.

[Mafia]

Personally, SF blows MK right out of the water. In MK, your either doing a pre-set dial-a-combo, or your using a special move. There's nothing really conecting basic punches and kicks with specials, except for juggling. SF games have so much more freedom in combo execution that it's not even funny.

MK did make the better transition to 3D, even though they basically presented the same game with a few different elements on top (weapons, style changes) that ultimately didn't change the game that much at all. If it weren't for 3D movement, it would have been exactly the same as all the others, just with polygons instead of digitized actors.

BTW, the SF EX series was directed by Akira Nishitani, who worked on the earlier SFII games, so it's not to say that Capcom just gave the series to a total unknown and said "Here, make SF 3D". They did a good job, but they really didn't do much outside of turning Ryu and Ken into polygons, but I guess it's null anyway since the series appears to be dead.

[Mafia]

SNK was more innovative but Capcom seemed more polished.. A lot of the stuff Capcom introduced, SNK did first. It was a great time for 2d Arcade fighters when this war was going on.

I like SNK myself, but Capcom is excellent (mostly).

I thought Fatal Fury 1 was better than Street Fighter 1, but after that Capcom consistently had a better game engine running everything. SNK did beat Capcom to the punch with Super moves, but other than that they didn't really bring a whole lot to the table as far as (useful) innovative features. You could argue the plane shifting that was big in most of the FF's, but it's a bit shallow, as all fighting had to be done on the same plane anyway.

KOF is still SNK's best series in my opinion, as well as their greatest contribution to the fighting genre, since that was the starting point for crossover fighting games.

[dafoomie]

Plus, that sentence seems like an oxymoron.
By introduced I mean introduced into their games, not introduced as invented.

One example is the crossovers. SNK did crossovers first with KOF, Capcom copied it later when they did all the VS games.

SNK did team battle first.

SNK did weapons fighting first in Samurai Showdown.

[Ledhed]

Plus, that sentence seems like an oxymoron.
By introduced I mean introduced into their games, not introduced as invented.

One example is the crossovers. SNK did crossovers first with KOF, Capcom copied it later when they did all the VS games.

SNK did team battle first.

SNK did weapons fighting first in Samurai Showdown.

Good points. I figured that was what you meant with "introduced." I don't know what it is, I'm just more comfortable with Capcom games. I can't wait for SF:AC on Xbox.

[dafoomie]

Its not that I don't like Capcom, I love them both. I just like SNK more.

[Ledhed]

Its not that I don't like Capcom, I love them both. I just like SNK more.

Yeah, I've gained a new respect for SNK recently. I just don't know if anything can top SFIII in my book. That game is just so damn perfect.

[Tromack]

I'm glad that this is no contest. I think the Mortal Kombat series is fun, but after I get each new game in the series, I play it for a couple of weeks. Watch all of the fatalities and then get bored with it. I have yet to get sick of a Street Fighter (except some of the earlier II versions, I just played them so very much).

[alteredbeast]

SNK did really impress me with with Art of Fightings zooming in and out. SNK always seemed more 'hard core' thank Capcom fighters, but the Capcom games were more popular in arcades, so you could find a better opponent since more people were familiar with the style of gameplay.

[evilpenguin9000]

SF tops MK every time in my mind. Hands down. But then again I don't think either of them can touch Virtua Fighter or Soul Caliber. I just prefer the 3D. This may be because I don't completely suck at 3D fighters, while I'm pretty sketchy at the 2D games.

[RedvsBlue]

Hmm all this talk makes me want to pick up Street Fighter Anniversary collection now. Maybe I'll get it when it comes out on the Box.

[Rodimus]

Its not that I don't like Capcom, I love them both. I just like SNK more.

Yeah, I've gained a new respect for SNK recently. I just don't know if anything can top SFIII in my book. That game is just so damn perfect.

If you liked SF 3, try Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves (if you haven't already). Me and my friends played alot of SF 3, but then I introduced them to Mark of the Wolves, and we play that religously now. I belive it's coming out on PS2 soon. Anyways it's very polished and smooth animation just like SF 3. I just think their characters, and moves are more original than SF 3's. Like Gato, he's a pimp.

[PapiChullo]

All games taken into account, I'm going with the SF series. But on an individual basis, MK1 and 2 were my favs.

[kristianator]

i like MK too, but anyone who says MK is better than SF probably sucks at fighting games in general.

i think what we should really ask is: what's the best fighting game ever? snk games are really fun, but i'm not sure that any of them are contenders. in my opinion, nothing tops sf3 third strike. extremely refined, topping a franchise that's been around for 15 years. this is pretty much street fighter at a peak. very refined system, extremely precise... my only problem with third strike is the tiering system that pretty much defines the common characters on the tourney scene. ken/chun/yun: pick 2 of the three and you're looking at the final match. but it's okay, cuz this happens with almost every fighting game.

[cyberlian]

fatalities? brutalities? ridiculous moves? I get more satisfaction out of MK

[Ledhed]

fatalities? brutalities? ridiculous moves? I get more satisfaction out of MK

You get more instantaneous satisfaction out of MK, but it grows old very fast. THere is little to no depth to MK games, even with the latest entries to the series. Meanwhile, people are still finding new combos and techniques for Capcom and SNK games that are well over 6 years old.

[Rig]

Street Fighter is way better than MK. I still go to the DC for some Alpha 3 time. The only MK I own is MKII.

[cyberlian]

fatalities? brutalities? ridiculous moves? I get more satisfaction out of MK

You get more instantaneous satisfaction out of MK, but it grows old very fast. THere is little to no depth to MK games, even with the latest entries to the series. Meanwhile, people are still finding new combos and techniques for Capcom and SNK games that are well over 6 years old.
True... I've never been someone who could play MK for over 30 min, but in small amounts it's still a lot of fun... I also give the MK characters the edge over the SF characters in terms of orginality... also, I liked the MK movies much better than the Street Fighter movie...

[RedvsBlue]

fatalities? brutalities? ridiculous moves? I get more satisfaction out of MK

You get more instantaneous satisfaction out of MK, but it grows old very fast. THere is little to no depth to MK games, even with the latest entries to the series. Meanwhile, people are still finding new combos and techniques for Capcom and SNK games that are well over 6 years old.
True... I've never been someone who could play MK for over 30 min, but in small amounts it's still a lot of fun...

Uh I guess I'm different then. I played it for about 3-4 hours straight on Saturday.

[guyver2077]

i could play mk for hours...

infact a few years back every weekend we would have mk trilogy night at my house.

[cyberlian]

fatalities? brutalities? ridiculous moves? I get more satisfaction out of MK

You get more instantaneous satisfaction out of MK, but it grows old very fast. THere is little to no depth to MK games, even with the latest entries to the series. Meanwhile, people are still finding new combos and techniques for Capcom and SNK games that are well over 6 years old.
True... I've never been someone who could play MK for over 30 min, but in small amounts it's still a lot of fun...

Uh I guess I'm different then. I played it for about 3-4 hours straight on Saturday.
(To clarify about the 30 min limit) I am refering to the older games now that I've already played through them; I'm mainly talking about replay value...

[Javery]

Of course Street Fighter is better - it is was more refined. There are TONS of Street Fighter games! I'm probably missing some but you get the idea - there have been only a handful of MK games by comparison...

Street Fighter
Street Fighter II - Hyper Fighting
Street Fighter II - The World Warrior
Street Fighter II - Champion Edition
Street Fighter II Turbo - Hyper Fighting
Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter EX
Street Fighter EX Plus
Street Fighter EX 2
Street Fighter EX 2 Plus
Street Fighter III: New Generation
Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
Street Fighter: The Movie

Also, other similar Capcom fighters fit the same general mold:
X-Men: Children of the Atom
Marvel Super Heroes
X-Men Vs. Street Fighter
Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter
Marvel Vs. Capcom
Marvel Vs. Capcom 2: New Age Of Heroes
Dark Stalkers: The Night Warriors
Night Warriors: Dark Stalkers' Revenge
Vampire Savior: The Lord Of Vampire
Vampire Savior 2: The Lord Of Vampire
Capcom Vs. SNK: Millennium Fight 2000
Capcom Vs. SNK 2: Mark Of The Millennium 2001

[guyver2077]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10/22/news_6111245.html



yes cant wait!!!!

[Mr Unoriginal]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10/22/news_6111245.html



yes cant wait!!!!

Haha, this worked out real well last time...

[guyver2077]

sub zero wasnt too bad!! i know they can make a good game. and hell liu kang is back!! this is probably a prequel again

[Mr Unoriginal]

Well I admit I beat the sub zero game, but I was much younger and much more foolish.

[dafoomie]

A straight port of Samurai Showdown RPG from the Saturn would probably still kick its ass.

[rajchakrabarti]

MK just happened to be much more brutal. If mk one didn't have the blood and the fatalities it wouldn't be half as good.. but its unfair to say that since no other game before had such violence. I still go with
street fighter alpha 3.. it is one of the best fighting games ever inmo.

[magilacudy]

I have to give the MK series some points because they added a lot of replay value with Puzzle Kombat. :)

But when it comes down to it, playing MK is memorizing dial-a-combos and random-alities but SF is all about skill.

[RedvsBlue]

But when it comes down to it, playing MK is memorizing dial-a-combos and random-alities but SF is all about skill.

Wouldn't you say they kind of nerfed the whole dial-a-combos thing by adding in the combobreaker thing in Deception

[HOTSHIET]

Street Fighter will always have a place in my heart!

[magilacudy]

Wouldn't you say they kind of nerfed the whole dial-a-combos thing by adding in the combobreaker thing in Deception

Well if your opponent only tries a combo 3 times and gives up, yes. Otherwise, no.

[Parathod]

Street Fighter is definitely the winner of this one, but I think Mortal Kombat is doing more with the series than SF has in recent years. They should make a Street Fighter that is free roaming (like Bushido Blade) or at least stop limiting the series to cross over games.

[ryosnk]

Mortal Kombat has a raw feel to it; it lacks gameplay but the feeling of finishing off an oppenent with finishers just feels dirty while having a big smile on your face :D . Street fighter has gameplay and the challenge of executing the special moves makes it a rewarding and fun game. I like both games in their own ways but overall I would choose street fighter because I like the sweet animation. :wink:

[Kain Vincent]

I love them both, Mortal Kombat is awesome and so is Street Fighter.

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[-Never4ever-]

Sorry but it'll always be MK for me. At least it has a couople of 3-D fighters that doesn't suck :)

[-Never4ever-]

But when it comes down to it, playing MK is memorizing dial-a-combos and random-alities but SF is all about skill.

Wouldn't you say they kind of nerfed the whole dial-a-combos thing by adding in the combobreaker thing in Deception

RedvsBlue: No they kinda nerfed the KB thing by limiting it to 3 KBs per match (ie 2 rounds).

Magiculdy: SF all about skill?! :lol: that's nostagia for you. Memorizing Combo's is also the basis of nearly every capcom fighter, SF is no exception. Just try and use "skill" against someone who has memorized and perfected their character, no amount of "skill" would prevent you from getting your ass handed to you.

As far as gameplay is concerned they're both equal. The only reason I picked MK over SF is because of it's presentation, simply put, no fighter can match the presentation of the MK series. Besides that, I've been an MK fan since I was 8, so yes, I'm a bit biased :)

[alteredbeast]

But when it comes down to it, playing MK is memorizing dial-a-combos and random-alities but SF is all about skill.

Wouldn't you say they kind of nerfed the whole dial-a-combos thing by adding in the combobreaker thing in Deception

RedvsBlue: No they kinda nerfed the KB thing by limiting it to 3 KBs per match (ie 2 rounds).

Magiculdy: SF all about skill?! :lol: that's nostagia for you. Memorizing Combo's is also the basis of nearly every capcom fighter, SF is no exception. Just try and use "skill" against someone who has memorized and perfected their character, no amount of "skill" would prevent you from getting your ass handed to you.

As far as gameplay is concerned they're both equal. The only reason I picked MK over SF is because of it's presentation, simply put, no fighter can match the presentation of the MK series. Besides that, I've been an MK fan since I was 8, so yes, I'm a bit biased :)

I think I wrote this elsewhere in the thread...the SF combos are based on frames of animation. Actually, in SF2, the combos weren't designed into the game, the developers admitied it just 'happened'. Those had to be exact timing, cross over kicks, you had to do the moves at the precise moments. With MK, it is like playing that game Simon. You just bang out the pattern, regardless of what is going on in the game. No timing involved, just punch in a series of buttons.

[Vtdgnca]

yea I prefer Japanese fighters over American also....