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davidflecha17
10-25-2004, 04:16 PM
I have a friend that told me that all I have to do to get this work is to get a cable modem and a usb cord. he told me that all I have to do is connect the same wire that I use for my comcast cable box to the cable modem and connect the modem with a usb cord.he said that it will only work if cable internet is available to your area. Then all I have to do is change the internet explorer settings from 56k to some high number(I forgot).
he said that it is real fast but the only problems that he has is all of the pop-ups that he gets while he uses it because it is on the internet exporer window.
He also told me that I works with online console gaming meaning that you dont need to have an actual broadband connection. I asked him that all this time I thought that he was rich but then he told he how he got everything for free.
my friend told me that as long as I had digital cable and was able to get a cable internet that it will work. I did some research on this already and the only information that I got is that some cable companies have a channel that send the necessary frequencies to get cable internet.
My question is if someone can try this method out, it sounds to good to be true but if also makes alot of sense since the cable modem wire is the exact same wire as the cable tv wire. Post your findings please.
greendj27
10-25-2004, 04:18 PM
Your friend likes to tell tall tales. :P
Death2Sanity
10-25-2004, 04:19 PM
Mmm...piracy. Delicious.
Scorch
10-25-2004, 04:19 PM
Would not work.
dtcarson
10-25-2004, 04:20 PM
Not to pass moral judgement, but assuming I'm reading your post correctly, I've made one minor correction in your original post.
thought that he was rich but then he told he how he
is a thief.
got everything for free.
davidflecha17
10-25-2004, 04:26 PM
he told me that he has xbox live this way. All he used was a motorola cable modem, and connected his cable wire to the cable modem, connected the cat 5 cable and connected the other side to the xbox and it worked. Some one try it, it might actually work!
friedram
10-25-2004, 04:27 PM
You can do some of the following things-
You can steal, and if you get caught, you get screwed- (I.E. jail time / juvie with some manly men who would like your rear as a poking device)
You can pretend that not having it is ok- Broadband sucks, and is way to expensive. Playing online with low lag sucks- I prefer to play with myself to playing online.
You can cough up the dough, spend money, and get broadband.
Best of luck.
If it makes you feel any better, when I was a child (I.E. younger than 18 ) I got fooled into thinking the EGM april prank of getting belmont in TMNT was legit. I let a friend borrow the mag and he wasted 3 hours trying to get it to work (I was not there). He was pissed when he found out that it was fake.
Your friend is either- incompetent or a liar.
RedvsBlue
10-25-2004, 04:29 PM
Your cable modem's mac address has to be input into their system. You can't just plug and steal.
dtcarson
10-25-2004, 04:30 PM
Broadband is more expensive.
Some things are worth it.
I'd cancel my phone landline or my cable channels before I'd cancel broadband.
plug and steal--catchy : )
NatakuARN
10-25-2004, 04:31 PM
Your friend is pulling your leg.
jlarlee
10-25-2004, 04:33 PM
How long has he lived at the residence? Maybe the previous owner had it and the cable company didn't disable it. It is stealing but saying he is going to jail is a bit steep from what I have seen from people who have done similar things is the company just turns it off
davidflecha17
10-25-2004, 04:37 PM
maybe you guys are right. he does lie alot. He told me that rare owned donkey kong and that there was going to be a game made for xbox.
all I want is for someone to confirm that this does not work by actually trying it.
beerguy961
10-25-2004, 04:40 PM
It's not gonna work. Everything would have to pass through their network on the way to his modem. They would recognize it quickly and do something about it...
Cable TV on the other hand, is quite easy to steal since it works in the same way broadcast does...
Trakan
10-25-2004, 04:42 PM
maybe you guys are right. he does lie alot. He told me that rare owned donkey kong and that there was going to be a game made for xbox.
all I want is for someone to confirm that this does not work by actually trying it.
Some people here know it won't work without having to try it.
jalu6
10-25-2004, 04:42 PM
Your cable modem's mac address has to be input into their system. You can't just plug and steal.
exactly. that address gets sent to the cable company and when they see its not registered with them, you wont be getting any bandwidth.
lord_ebonstone
10-25-2004, 04:42 PM
I prefer to play with myself...
Eh heh heh heh.
Journey
10-25-2004, 04:44 PM
I prefer to play with myself to playing online.
TOO.....MANY....JOKES.......MUST .....NOT.......POST!!!!!
Sorry, I just thought that was humorous.........Yes, I have the funny bone of a 10 year old.... :D
davidflecha17
10-25-2004, 04:58 PM
Your cable modem's mac address has to be input into their system. You can't just plug and steal.
exactly. that address gets sent to the cable company and when they see its not registered with them, you wont be getting any bandwidth.
if they have this capability then people would be getting arrested for stealing cable everywhere.
bignick
10-25-2004, 04:59 PM
It does work with some cable companies. Cox is one of them. Just plug a cable moden in, and then hook it up with either a USB cable or ethernet cable.
davidflecha17
10-25-2004, 04:59 PM
Your cable modem's mac address has to be input into their system. You can't just plug and steal.
exactly. that address gets sent to the cable company and when they see its not registered with them, you wont be getting any bandwidth.
if they have this capability then people would be getting arrested for stealing cable everywhere. the signals are kept on a blank channel of the cable
jlarlee
10-25-2004, 05:19 PM
It does work with some cable companies. Cox is one of them. Just plug a cable moden in, and then hook it up with either a USB cable or ethernet cable.
Actually now that I think of it when I moved into my house and got my cable connected the guy commented that it was easy to hook up my cable modem since the plug was already live
bignick
10-25-2004, 05:23 PM
It does work with some cable companies. Cox is one of them. Just plug a cable moden in, and then hook it up with either a USB cable or ethernet cable.
Actually now that I think of it when I moved into my house and got my cable connected the guy commented that it was easy to hook up my cable modem since the plug was already live
ya, I wouldnt lie. It doesnt work for charter internet, but it does for some. The only way to tell is to try it out.
CaptainObviousXl
10-25-2004, 05:23 PM
wow, i know our cable provider has no way of getting it for free
greendj27
10-25-2004, 05:24 PM
Cable TV on the other hand, is quite easy to steal since it works in the same way broadcast does...
How does cable work the same as broadcast? One is received as an over the air broadcast and the other is sent via wire.
davidflecha17
10-25-2004, 05:31 PM
don't forget the cable wire that you plug behind a cable box is the same exact wire they use for cable internet.
I am talking about digital cable
beerguy961
10-25-2004, 06:36 PM
Cable TV on the other hand, is quite easy to steal since it works in the same way broadcast does...
How does cable work the same as broadcast? One is received as an over the air broadcast and the other is sent via wire.
The signal is dispersed to all cable connections. They can't keep tabs on who's plugged into their system without physically going to that person's house and checking it due to the fact that they send a signal, but don't send one back...
Scorch
10-25-2004, 06:37 PM
don't forget the cable wire that you plug behind a cable box is the same exact wire they use for cable internet.
I am talking about digital cable
Dude.
It doesn't work.
STOP THINKING IT DOES!!!!! The cable company has to authorize you for a connection!
jlarlee
10-25-2004, 06:40 PM
don't forget the cable wire that you plug behind a cable box is the same exact wire they use for cable internet.
I am talking about digital cable
Dude.
It doesn't work.
STOP THINKING IT DOES!!!!! The cable company has to authorize you for a connection!
Unless he has cox cable where it might be a possiblity if the previous resdient had it and cox didn't disconnect it.
Xtreme331
10-25-2004, 06:53 PM
flecha:
I gotta agree with Scorch. You gotta give it up.
This didn't work for me. I tried something similar a while ago with my next door neighbor. We both have comcast cable, and i have cable internet, as well as digital cable. I took my modem over to her house and plugged it into the wall and her computer... nothing. And when the technician hooked up my internet stuff, he didn't just plug in the modem and go "ok have fun" he had to put in specific filter on the line where it comes into the house (no idea what that was) and he had to authorize my computer so that it would work with their system.
Although apparently Cox cable is different, most cable companies require more than just a physical connection. Sorry dude, your friend is probably lying. Friends lie.
Tell him that he doesn't need to lie for you to like him, that you respect him as an individual no matter what... and then knock him upside the head for being a stupid jackass!
bignick
10-25-2004, 07:01 PM
Another trick that works great is to pay for cable internet, and get free basic cable.
jdpimp
10-25-2004, 07:24 PM
Another trick that works great is to pay for cable internet, and get free basic cable.
or know someone that works for the cable company, or give your cable guy a tour of your bedroom *hint hint*, because dignity don't cost a thang.
davidflecha17
10-26-2004, 12:47 PM
flecha:
I gotta agree with Scorch. You gotta give it up.
This didn't work for me. I tried something similar a while ago with my next door neighbor. We both have comcast cable, and i have cable internet, as well as digital cable. I took my modem over to her house and plugged it into the wall and her computer... nothing. And when the technician hooked up my internet stuff, he didn't just plug in the modem and go "ok have fun" he had to put in specific filter on the line where it comes into the house (no idea what that was) and he had to authorize my computer so that it would work with their system.
Although apparently Cox cable is different, most cable companies require more than just a physical connection. Sorry dude, your friend is probably lying. Friends lie.
Tell him that he doesn't need to lie for you to like him, that you respect him as an individual no matter what... and then knock him upside the head for being a stupid jackass!
you are right on some things but some of the very first cable modems do not have to be activated to use them. the hew ones have security and is almost impossible. I dont know the right terms but It is kind of like the new cable modems have some kind of code so that the cable companies can track the old ones do not have this.
jalu6
10-26-2004, 01:09 PM
flecha:
I gotta agree with Scorch. You gotta give it up.
This didn't work for me. I tried something similar a while ago with my next door neighbor. We both have comcast cable, and i have cable internet, as well as digital cable. I took my modem over to her house and plugged it into the wall and her computer... nothing. And when the technician hooked up my internet stuff, he didn't just plug in the modem and go "ok have fun" he had to put in specific filter on the line where it comes into the house (no idea what that was) and he had to authorize my computer so that it would work with their system.
Although apparently Cox cable is different, most cable companies require more than just a physical connection. Sorry dude, your friend is probably lying. Friends lie.
Tell him that he doesn't need to lie for you to like him, that you respect him as an individual no matter what... and then knock him upside the head for being a stupid jackass!
you are right on some things but some of the very first cable modems do not have to be activated to use them. the hew ones have security and is almost impossible. I dont know the right terms but It is kind of like the new cable modems have some kind of code so that the cable companies can track the old ones do not have this.
EVERY type of network adapter has a MAC address. Cable modems are no different.
just order the service for christs sake. its one of the few things that are actually worth every penny you pay for it.
TheRaven
10-26-2004, 01:17 PM
don't forget the cable wire that you plug behind a cable box is the same exact wire they use for cable internet.
I am talking about digital cable
Dude.
It doesn't work.
STOP THINKING IT DOES!!!!! The cable company has to authorize you for a connection!
Only if the cable company uses a controller. There are a few that still don't. And Big Nick is right, you can get free Cable TV off your cable internet connection. Just use a splitter, one end goes to your cable modem and the other can go to a TV.
TheRaven
10-26-2004, 01:19 PM
Very true that every adapter has a MAC address, but unless the ISP has a controller that hands out bandwidth based on a customer's MAC, it doesn't matter.
davidflecha17
10-26-2004, 01:28 PM
I found a description about cable internet on this site:
http://sf1000.registeredsite.com/~user840306/internet/
davidflecha17
10-26-2004, 01:31 PM
I found a description about cable internet on this site:
http://sf1000.registeredsite.com/~user840306/internet/
Cable Modem - Utilizing existing cable TV coaxial cables, this service is provided by your cable TV provider. A cable modem device connects just like a TV or cable box. The computer is connected to the cable modem via a network card (NIC) and an Ethernet cable. Speeds here can exceed 1.5Mbps, but as more people in your area join the cable access network, speeds may diminish as everyone is sharing the same maximum bandwidth. Monthly costs around $50 on top of cable TV subscription. Not available in all areas
what I want to know is how come it is not possible to connect this up to your regular cable wire and use xbox live forget about the internet part the computer has a mac address .
Indiana
10-26-2004, 01:34 PM
On comcast it will work for about a day or so. Then they will block your MAC address of your cable modem. At least that is what the cable installer has told me when he installed my Time Warner setup. He did state that it would not work at Time Warner at all because the MAC is required to be in the system before you can communicate. Apparently some Comcast setups are configured to allow everyone on and then they block all new entries that did not order.
Indiana
10-26-2004, 01:35 PM
don't forget the cable wire that you plug behind a cable box is the same exact wire they use for cable internet.
I am talking about digital cable
Dude.
It doesn't work.
STOP THINKING IT DOES!!!!! The cable company has to authorize you for a connection!
Only if the cable company uses a controller. There are a few that still don't. And Big Nick is right, you can get free Cable TV off your cable internet connection. Just use a splitter, one end goes to your cable modem and the other can go to a TV.
Actually most cable companies use a filter now. So if you only bought cable internet they filter out the analog tv channels so you can't watch tv.
TheRaven
10-26-2004, 01:36 PM
I found a description about cable internet on this site:
http://sf1000.registeredsite.com/~user840306/internet/
Cable Modem - Utilizing existing cable TV coaxial cables, this service is provided by your cable TV provider. A cable modem device connects just like a TV or cable box. The computer is connected to the cable modem via a network card (NIC) and an Ethernet cable. Speeds here can exceed 1.5Mbps, but as more people in your area join the cable access network, speeds may diminish as everyone is sharing the same maximum bandwidth. Monthly costs around $50 on top of cable TV subscription. Not available in all areas
what I want to know is how come it is not possible to connect this up to your regular cable wire and use xbox live forget about the internet part the computer has a mac address .
Because if your cable company uses a controller, then bandwidth will only be utilized to registered MAC addresses. So if you hook up your XBox, which has its own MAC address, and its not recognized, you won't get any bandwidth.
TheRaven
10-26-2004, 01:37 PM
don't forget the cable wire that you plug behind a cable box is the same exact wire they use for cable internet.
I am talking about digital cable
Dude.
It doesn't work.
STOP THINKING IT DOES!!!!! The cable company has to authorize you for a connection!
Only if the cable company uses a controller. There are a few that still don't. And Big Nick is right, you can get free Cable TV off your cable internet connection. Just use a splitter, one end goes to your cable modem and the other can go to a TV.
Actually most cable companies use a filter now. So if you only bought cable internet they filter out the analog tv channels so you can't watch tv.
Some do, and some claim they do...I know that Cox and Mediacom do not for sure.
Cornfedwb
10-26-2004, 01:40 PM
Some cable companies do have an active connection, and you can split it. I've seen it work. However.... all internet cable requires a filter and a certain cable to get good connection, doing it the freebie (read: illegal and asshat) way gives you terribly shitty connection speeds.
jalu6
10-26-2004, 01:41 PM
I found a description about cable internet on this site:
http://sf1000.registeredsite.com/~user840306/internet/
Cable Modem - Utilizing existing cable TV coaxial cables, this service is provided by your cable TV provider. A cable modem device connects just like a TV or cable box. The computer is connected to the cable modem via a network card (NIC) and an Ethernet cable. Speeds here can exceed 1.5Mbps, but as more people in your area join the cable access network, speeds may diminish as everyone is sharing the same maximum bandwidth. Monthly costs around $50 on top of cable TV subscription. Not available in all areas
what I want to know is how come it is not possible to connect this up to your regular cable wire and use xbox live forget about the internet part the computer has a mac address .
Because if your cable company uses a controller, then bandwidth will only be utilized to registered MAC addresses. So if you hook up your XBox, which has its own MAC address, and its not recognized, you won't get any bandwidth.
actually, it registers the MAC of the modem, not whatever its connected to. thats why if you decided to hook up a router, you would not need to call your cable company. the xbox/ps2/other computer/new NIC card would work fine.
davidflecha17
10-26-2004, 01:42 PM
I have comcast and i don't think they use a controler because there is only one wire for every connection including digital cable and cable internet.
digital cable is not the same as regular cable
TheRaven
10-26-2004, 01:50 PM
I found a description about cable internet on this site:
http://sf1000.registeredsite.com/~user840306/internet/
Cable Modem - Utilizing existing cable TV coaxial cables, this service is provided by your cable TV provider. A cable modem device connects just like a TV or cable box. The computer is connected to the cable modem via a network card (NIC) and an Ethernet cable. Speeds here can exceed 1.5Mbps, but as more people in your area join the cable access network, speeds may diminish as everyone is sharing the same maximum bandwidth. Monthly costs around $50 on top of cable TV subscription. Not available in all areas
what I want to know is how come it is not possible to connect this up to your regular cable wire and use xbox live forget about the internet part the computer has a mac address .
Because if your cable company uses a controller, then bandwidth will only be utilized to registered MAC addresses. So if you hook up your XBox, which has its own MAC address, and its not recognized, you won't get any bandwidth.
actually, it registers the MAC of the modem, not whatever its connected to. thats why if you decided to hook up a router, you would not need to call your cable company. the xbox/ps2/other computer/new NIC card would work fine.
True in some cases, but in that guys example, he has nothing registered at all..his modem wouldnt be registered because he has not signed up for service.
Also, with Mediacom, they do register the device the modem connects to, whether it be straight to a PC for the enet's MAC or whether is be to a router for that MAC. I don't know why they do it that way, but they do.
davidflecha17
10-26-2004, 02:05 PM
It pretty much sounds like this thing should work. I dont feel like spending 100.00 dollars on a modem until I know for sure it works. If someone has a cable modem already and has comcast digital cable, I suggest they try it and post their findings.
jlarlee
10-26-2004, 04:16 PM
It pretty much sounds like this thing should work. I dont feel like spending 100.00 dollars on a modem until I know for sure it works. If someone has a cable modem already and has comcast digital cable, I suggest they try it and post their findings.
Last i checked you can return things to stores like modems. Some companies give you a modem for signing up for the service and you can do this the legal way.
ragtop70
10-26-2004, 06:34 PM
Apparently some of you don't realize that broadband is not available everywhere. This is to the poster who keeps saying "stop being a tight ass and pony up the cash for it, it's worth every penney." Well, I would pay for DSL, but I can't because it's not offered here. Maybe the OP is in the same boat as me.
jlarlee
10-26-2004, 06:41 PM
Apparently some of you don't realize that broadband is not available everywhere. This is to the poster who keeps saying "stop being a tight ass and pony up the cash for it, it's worth every penney." Well, I would pay for DSL, but I can't because it's not offered here. Maybe the OP is in the same boat as me.
Ok how do you steal something that you can't buy? I'm confused.
dtcarson
10-26-2004, 08:15 PM
That's true. If he can't buy it, there's no way he can steal it.
You can split the signal. I have a cable modem, and have been using a router since the beginning. No additional charge, and while TWC doesn't promote it [they want to sell you their 'home networking' for 12.95/month], they don't say you can't do it.
You should be able to call your cable company and have them tell you if you can physically get a broadband connection.
And some cable companies can turn off the broadband 'flow' at the street/box level, so there's no chance of getting BB when you're not approved to do so. We didn't pay our bill one time, and they cut off the BB internet, but kept our TV going, because all they had to do was flip a switch at the office, rather than coming out to the house. I don't know if they de-activated the mac address, or the flow, though.
davidflecha17
10-26-2004, 08:45 PM
I could buy the modem anytime but I just want to make sure someone can confirm that they can get xbox live this way before I do. even if it is for a day or so. I just want it long enough to get the hurricane packs for ninja gaiden.
I am not telling you guys to buy a modem yourselves, I am just saying if you already have a modem to try it.
I am sure people have modems at their house without a cable internet connection but have digital cable. I am asking these people to help all of us out. We are all speculating that it works or it does not work but the only way to find out is for one of you few out there to try.
davidflecha17
10-30-2004, 03:41 PM
bump
Mistik
10-31-2004, 12:47 PM
Or maybe no one wants to get arrested for trying this. Why don't you just ask your friend who has done it and borrow his? It really shouldn't work because the code does have to be entered into the mainframe or else assholes would be clogging up the line from the people who actually pay for it. And it doesn't really matter which cable they use. Regular phone outlets for example have much more bandwidth than needed for telephones, which is how DSL works, but can I just plug in my DSL modem and have it work? Nope.
davidflecha17
10-31-2004, 10:16 PM
this metord will not work with dsl it only would work with cable internet my area filters everything thorugh one line dsl has to be connected to a computer cable internet does not have to be.
Milkyman
11-01-2004, 05:03 AM
this stinks of wishful thinking. if all you want is the hurricane pack, why dont you bring your xbox over to your friend's house? thats even more free than buying a modem and stealing broadband.
Tromack
11-01-2004, 05:10 AM
bump
Not to bump this again, but never bump this again. Noone is going to try your fucking stupid thing. Just fuck off.
Jarrett
11-01-2004, 05:39 AM
Interesting... my brother has had digital cable at his house since he moved in. When he first moved in I connected the cables to the TV just for future use when they got the cable connected but it worked right off the bat. At first we thought it was just work for a while (maybe the previous owners cycle wasn't over yet.) Well it has been a year already with free cable but I never thought about trying to get free internet for him too. I have a cable modem and I think I will head over there Tuesday and see what happens.
He has wanted to get roadrunner (like me) but doesn't want to pay for cable if he is already getting it for free. They don't have phone service (only cell phones) so I think DSL would cost a little more than usual.
soulyogurt
11-01-2004, 06:37 AM
davidflecha17:
Ask your friend if you can get a look at his cable bill. That will settle this once and for all. Comcast invoices digital cable and internet all on the same bill. If he doesn't have internet on the bill, but you can see a cablemodem working right there, well, there you go.
davidflecha17
11-01-2004, 02:47 PM
trust me he does not have cable internet because I asked him how much he pays on his cable bill and he said 70.00. That is how much it cost for standard cable because I pay this much too. He also told me that he cant afford to pay for both.
bryankasch
11-01-2004, 08:48 PM
Yeah when I first got cable internet back in 98 I was able to get channels 1-13 for free (which included hbo) buy using a splitter and connecting it to my tv ( was still at home at the time) anyways when I got married and we moved to a new place they moved the connection but added a filter so mediacom does have a fliter as well. But no this methoed he speaks of will not work at all. And as far as broadband so expensive. I pay 21.95 for 1.5/750 ( 24.95 after taxes) even sbc dsl is like 26 or so. I know not everywhere has it but hell my in-laws live in backwoods arkansas and they have it there for 40 a month.
davidflecha17
11-02-2004, 01:03 PM
I would get sbc dsl in a second but they dont offer it in my area.plus cable internet is the best connection and fastest. 4 times as fast as dsl.
different cable companies work differently I am only talking to those people that have comcast digital cable.