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Stainless Alloy
05-23-2010, 03:34 PM
I just bought Mario Galaxy 2 and it came in an eco box:bomb:, the ones with all the holes in it that wont do anything to protect your game:bomb:. Is any one else pissed off about this? These boxes do not save the environment, they are just cheaper to make.
iKilledChewbacca
05-23-2010, 03:48 PM
I could honestly care less.....
SpazX
05-23-2010, 04:06 PM
Well they do use less plastic, which is better for the environment. So while the company may be motivated by their cost, it does what it aims to do and I haven't had any problems with them.
Mr Unoriginal
05-23-2010, 04:09 PM
I could honestly care less.....
So you're saying you care?
Lost_In_Shadows
05-23-2010, 04:12 PM
Wii game images on the disc look lame and now even lamer cases... What is next lame games? Oh wait... :lol:
Sorry. I had to say it.
Mario is great. I was talking about most third party wii games.
johnnypark
05-23-2010, 04:15 PM
I'm all for it. Show me a game that arrives in terrible condition as a result of the new packaging and we'll talk.
Lost_In_Shadows
05-23-2010, 04:17 PM
I'm all for it. Show me a game that arrives in terrible condition as a result of the new packaging and we'll talk.
On a serious note. I agree with that. It doesn't matter to me as long as the disc doesn't move around in the case. I've bought a few games that had that happen before.
Mr Unoriginal
05-23-2010, 04:17 PM
I'm all for it. Show me a game that arrives in terrible condition as a result of the new packaging and we'll talk.
I will start off by saying that I don't mind the new cases at all. But I got Modern Warfare 2 off of Goozex and there was a rip in the insert right where the case was cut out. I'm sure if this was the old cases, that wouldn't have happened. Of course it isn't in terrible condition, but still...
kelvin55993
05-23-2010, 04:38 PM
It is not wise to low down the quality. I prefer quality to cost.
Chacrana
05-23-2010, 04:48 PM
I don't think it will be wise to say anything about it. So i will be silent.
It is not wise to low down the quality. I prefer quality to cost.
W...what the hell is going on here!?!
msdmoney
05-23-2010, 04:52 PM
Why would I care, as long as the case keeps the disc inside. If it's only to save money, that's fine, I don't even notice it.
Stainless Alloy
05-23-2010, 04:52 PM
If Nintendo really cared about the environment then why did they include so much paper? 68 page manual and about 4 more pages of miscellaneous stuff. For consoles Nintendo uses more packaging than anyone else and it comes with about a half inch thick manual plus 10 more pages of random stuff. Why didn't they do what Sony did for the PS3, just make smaller boxes. This is only the beginning, wait until the disks themselves will be biodegradable, try playing one of those 20 years from now.
batman1939
05-23-2010, 04:57 PM
I could not find the video but to quote Mr. Burns:
"Oooh, so Mother Nature needs a favor?! Well maybe she should have thought of that when she was besetting us with droughts and floods and poison monkeys! Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she’s losing. Well I say, hard cheese."
helluvagood
05-23-2010, 05:02 PM
a case is just a case meh
JStryke
05-23-2010, 05:56 PM
I prefer it over the 360 cases because at least these have a little design in them, although in all honestly, it doesn't really matter at all.
johnnypark
05-23-2010, 06:13 PM
I will start off by saying that I don't mind the new cases at all. But I got Modern Warfare 2 off of Goozex and there was a rip in the insert right where the case was cut out. I'm sure if this was the old cases, that wouldn't have happened. Of course it isn't in terrible condition, but still...
Sounds like the person you got it from (or whoever had it before them) wasn't careful with it then. I know shit happens, but I take really good care of my games, and unless it's 2nd hand all of my stuff is pristine.
That kind of stuff annoys me, but as long as it plays, that's the important part. I don't see inserts ripping or the plastic being punctured just from shipping & distribution, it's going to be people not taking good care of their things that would make the new cases a problem.
I think Sony got it right by making the cases smaller. 1/3 less plastic overall, shorter manuals, everything is more compact and they store better too IMHO.
I agree with whoever said Nintendo wastes a lot of paper with all the junk they throw in with their games. The plastic removed from the cases themselves seems to be an industry-wide thing, I think it's among the manufacturers who make the cases for DVDs/videogames/etc. If they're charging more for cases without the recycling symbol in them, of course Nintendo/Microsoft/Sony are going to buy the cheaper ones.
deftoast
05-23-2010, 06:30 PM
The cases available at nintendo's store might still be the old style.
http://store.nintendo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchView
(search for "case")
I don't like the cases either, the discs are kind of hard to get out sometimes. Seems like the button things that hold them don't budge at all, my friends copy of MW2 has a crack in the center already because of it.
I bought Mario Galaxy 2 today and it does not have the "eco-case". Note that in Canada, we have the "USZ" (I assume "US Zone") instead of "USA" version. As far as I know, everything is identical in both versions, except the outer case cover has french and spanish on it. Even the disc is the "USA" version.
I guess in this case, Nintendo only decided to rip off the US customers. ;)
UncleBob
05-24-2010, 12:59 AM
I've already said my piece on these cases. They're bull crap.
If the plan was using less plastic and saving shipping costs, a clear case, made out of the thinner-DVD case materials, the size of CD Jewel Cases, but half as thick, with health warnings and basic instructions printed on the backside of the cover insert and the rest of the manual contained on the disc would save plastic, paper, fuel/shipping costs *and* allow you to fit six copies in the same space as two current copies. All while not leaving giant, gaping holes where my disc should be protected.
Think this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-Super-Ultra-Thin-Black-4mm-CD-DVD-Boxes-Cases-200-/400067480930?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d25e14d62), only clear.
Anywhoo, I picked up about 50 white Wii Game cases from a Hollywood Video/Game Crazy that was going out, so I'm set for all these crappy "green" cases. :)
johnnypark
05-25-2010, 07:06 AM
I've already said my piece on these cases. They're bull crap.
If the plan was using less plastic and saving shipping costs, a clear case, made out of the thinner-DVD case materials, the size of CD Jewel Cases, but half as thick, with health warnings and basic instructions printed on the backside of the cover insert and the rest of the manual contained on the disc would save plastic, paper, fuel/shipping costs *and* allow you to fit six copies in the same space as two current copies. All while not leaving giant, gaping holes where my disc should be protected.
Think this (http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-Super-Ultra-Thin-Black-4mm-CD-DVD-Boxes-Cases-200-/400067480930?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d25e14d62), only clear.
Anywhoo, I picked up about 50 white Wii Game cases from a Hollywood Video/Game Crazy that was going out, so I'm set for all these crappy "green" cases. :)
Yeah, PS1 got it right, for some reason no one (including Sony) ever went back to that. It would make a lot more sense than the current approach, I'll agree.
PenguinMaster
05-25-2010, 07:52 AM
Yeah, PS1 got it right, for some reason no one (including Sony) ever went back to that. It would make a lot more sense than the current approach, I'll agree.
Jewel cases are far too fragile, I'm glad they moved off of that. A dvd-style case the size of a jewel case would be fine though (like what UncleBob posted).
Vinny
05-25-2010, 01:03 PM
So you're saying you care?
:rofl:
mogamer
05-25-2010, 01:26 PM
Yeah, PS1 got it right, for some reason no one (including Sony) ever went back to that. It would make a lot more sense than the current approach, I'll agree.
The Dreamcast used jewel cases.
Jewel cases are far too fragile, I'm glad they moved off of that. A dvd-style case the size of a jewel case would be fine though (like what UncleBob posted).
You are right about how fragile jewel cases are. No need to go back to those. But the smaller dvd cases would be good. But knowing how businesses work, we would probably end up with holes in those also! :roll:
ritchardf
05-25-2010, 01:38 PM
they are just buying time until there is no case or disk, download only. then they can raise the price of games another 10 bucks for "servers"
xycury
05-25-2010, 02:31 PM
I wouldn't mind the micro plastic cases that UB posted.... better than the big flimsy pos we have now.
willardhaven
05-25-2010, 06:25 PM
I got it in a regular case too. Why are they shipping the game with multiple case types?
Mine just came and is in a regular case as well.
Sir_Fragalot
05-25-2010, 07:53 PM
I got it in a regular case too. Why are they shipping the game with multiple case types?
Might be different production runs or they are using up their stock of regular cases to make way for the eco friendly ones. They have to print a few million copies of this game I would imagine, so maybe at different places they are using different cases.
Droenixjpn
05-25-2010, 08:28 PM
How about no Cases, and we go back to the cool Cartridges? (Screw the prices for it. I wouldn't mind paying 5 dollars more or whatever, just to have a Cartridge that won't break as easily as a CD/DVD/Bluray.)
I miss the N64 era...
forteblast
05-25-2010, 08:37 PM
I got my copy of SMG2 today and I have no idea what you're talking about. It looks just like every other Wii game case I have.
I got my copy of SMG2 today and I have no idea what you're talking about. It looks just like every other Wii game case I have.
Unless you were just saying yours isn't eco friendly, in which case theres a couple people who have had that happen. This is an eco friendly.
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/ecof.jpg
willardhaven
05-25-2010, 08:57 PM
I hate those things...
Buuhan1
05-25-2010, 09:31 PM
Oh wow, that's awful. If anything stabbed the back of that, say hello to a nice dent/crack in your game disc. I agree with the above, thinner smaller cases. Those would be cool.
KingBroly
05-25-2010, 09:51 PM
Where did you get this eco case from?
I already have some Wii eco-cases on other stuff, but my copy of Galaxy2 from Amazon was a regular case. Apparently it's a crapshoot with this one.
SpazX
05-25-2010, 10:12 PM
I imagine next gen they'll go to PS3-sized cases (since the next microsoft and sony consoles will be on blu-ray anyway). I think that's a lot better, they could make them thinner than that though and leave out the manuals. They're just not going to change the look of the cases (externally) mid-run, so this is one way to cheap it up some and act like they care about the environment.
SuperPhillip
05-25-2010, 10:51 PM
Only FFCC: The Crystal Bearers was eco-friendly for me.
I thought this was supposed to become common.
moothemagiccow
05-26-2010, 12:18 AM
Yeah, PS1 got it right, for some reason no one (including Sony) ever went back to that.
They all broke, cracked, or scratched. Someone would leave a CD or PS or saturn game (HUUGE plastic BOX) on the floor at some point in their ownership and someone would step on it. Jewel cases are crap. The DVD style boxes in use now are spectacular.
GDorofu
05-26-2010, 01:30 PM
So you're saying you care?
Ha ha, good catch, that's one of my peeves too.
Back on topic, I don't really care about those boxes. I don't have the game yet, but when I do, I'm pretty sure that it will stay in my console for some time. If it does bother me, I could always swap the box with a dusty game. Here's the only real important question as far as packaging is concerned, how's the manual?
Glossy paper?
Full color?
Thick?
maximumzero
05-26-2010, 03:07 PM
I honestly couldn't care less......
willardhaven
05-26-2010, 04:37 PM
how's the manual?
Glossy paper?
Full color?
Thick?
Nintendo makes nice, thick manuals but the thick aspect is strictly due to the French and Spanish sections.
TheHapaOne
05-26-2010, 04:43 PM
it really doesn't matter what the disk come in...if you have that big of a problem with it go to gamestop buy a cheap used game that has the case you want and swap it out then return the game come on
KingBroly
05-26-2010, 04:43 PM
My Galaxy 2 came today and it was in an eco-case. It also looked like someone opened it before-hand, and the top was pried open. WTF Amazon?
Droenixjpn
05-26-2010, 05:33 PM
I too am dissapointed with Amazon a bit. I ordered a World of Warcraft Battlechest off their site and it was shipped by USPS. I usually get my stuff by UPS or FedEx from them, oh well. Funny thing is, it was in a city in my State when I first ordered, yet didn't get here for another 5 days. Guess when they do say 5-8 days for shipping, they mean it.
Haven't seen a eco-friendly case yet, but I guess I could go on youtube or google images and look it up to see how bad it is. It probably is more flimsier, and therefore the case could become more easily damaged. If that's the case, just go and get a DVD case or something and put the cover art in. Although, I bet other people have said something like this in the thread already.
OldKai
05-26-2010, 09:25 PM
The case is garbage, 2nd game I've gotten like that (FF), no scratches on either but I did have to clean the discs with a cloth, maybe my Wii is dirty on the inside.. shouldn't be though. Weird. Anyway, they could make the cases smaller easily and remove the holes on the disc side, and maybe drop the eco-friendly 70 page manuals, I do know how to play a Nintendo game, it's not rocket science.
RawrrSlayer
05-26-2010, 09:40 PM
I could not find the video but to quote Mr. Burns:
"Oooh, so Mother Nature needs a favor?! Well maybe she should have thought of that when she was besetting us with droughts and floods and poison monkeys! Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she’s losing. Well I say, hard cheese."
This...
Trillian
05-26-2010, 11:19 PM
My SMG2 came in today from Amazon, and it was in a normal case. Kinda weird, after seeing this thread yesterday, I was expecting the eco-case.
thelonepig
05-26-2010, 11:29 PM
Normal case here too. Also got mine from Amazon.
icebeast
05-27-2010, 10:03 AM
My case was an eco-case and I picked mine up in-store at GameStop.
Eco case my ass. It's a cost cutting move, plain and simple.
UjnHunter
05-27-2010, 11:06 AM
Eco Cases blow nuggets! My SMG2 came in a normal case... I'd rather Nintendo got rid of the multi-language crap! My case for SSFIV (Xbox 360) however is a CRAP Eco Case and it's hard to close properly sometimes, it's like it isn't strong enough to keep it's form... gah!
flameofdoom666
05-27-2010, 11:16 AM
My Galaxy 2 is in a normal case!
My Galaxy 2 came today and it was in an eco-case. It also looked like someone opened it before-hand, and the top was pried open. WTF Amazon?
What do your mean by 'top was pried open'?
Is it the recessed area when you normally open the case? Was it cracked or something?
willardhaven
05-27-2010, 04:57 PM
Weird thing is that my Mario Kart Wii came with a yin yang style spindled case instead of the regular case.
SpazX
05-27-2010, 05:18 PM
My galaxy 2 came in an eco case, and it seems fine.
My SMG2 from Amazon has the eco-case. This is the second one I have (other was a 360 game).
I'm a bit worried about it, but, I also keep my stuff neat and protected. I think it'll be okay.
Ryukahn
05-28-2010, 08:55 AM
My SMG2 is in a eco-case, as well as a 360 game I have. The cases suck, and if all cases are going like this I may have to buy a CD holder case to put my games in, as it seems really easy to tear the back insert when putting in or removing games.
Corvin
05-28-2010, 10:36 AM
What do you people do to your games that you are ripping through both the thin clear plastic and the paper insert to get to the game?
Open case
Take out game disc
Place case back on shelf
As such I have no issues with these cases. The environment is a little more important than a silly game. If you treat your games right, nothing will happen. I'd be more impressed though if Nintendo did away with the 100pp manuals printed in 15 different languages and 10 separate inserts about health hazards and warnings. Talk about a mixed message. lol
thelonepig
05-28-2010, 11:07 AM
What do you people do to your games that you are ripping through both the thin clear plastic and the paper insert to get to the game?
Open case
Take out game disc
Place case back on shelf
As such I have no issues with these cases. The environment is a little more important than a silly game. If you treat your games right, nothing will happen. I'd be more impressed though if Nintendo did away with the 100pp manuals printed in 15 different languages and 10 separate inserts about health hazards and warnings. Talk about a mixed message. lol
I have several eco cases on movies. More than half of those movies were damaged in shipping, where a pointed object (say the corner of another box) has hit the insert where the holes in the case are and resulted in a tear or puncture through the art. It's not always user error.
KillerRamen
05-28-2010, 02:36 PM
Like it or not, but these new cases are the new standard for all new releases. I sent a nasty e-mail about the cases to Nintendo and I got this response:
Hello,
Thanks for contacting us about the new Wii game case. I want you to know how much we appreciate the feedback and assure you that your comments will be documented and made available for other departments at the company to use as they see fit.
I know this isn't what you were hoping to hear, but all new game releases from Nintendo are now coming with this style of case. Our licensees are beginning to use the new cases as well. As a company, we’re making a global effort to create less waste and use our resources responsibly; changing to more eco-friendly game cases is part of this process. I can assure you that these new cases will protect your games as well as the old cases did.
You may also be interested to know that we currently have some stock of the original cases available to purchase through our online store (http://store.nintendo.com). However, once the existing stock is depleted, we will be changing over to the new cases there as well.
Sincerely,
Mina Harris
Nintendo of America Inc.
If you don't like it, I suggest e-mailing Nintendo's Customer Service and tell them how you feel. I did and pretty much told them that if they don't reverse course that I would never buy a Wii game at MSRP again. ...Not that it's much of a threat since I don't do that now, but it does make it even less likely that I will ever pay over $10 for a Wii game with relatively few exceptions. (Mario, Metroid, Zelda, NISA)
...I guess on the plus side, these eco-boxes suck less than the :360: eco-boxes.
Just-Joe
05-29-2010, 06:17 PM
Is it really an issue? You're not playing with box, you're playing with the game.
UncleBob
05-29-2010, 06:44 PM
Is it really an issue? You're not playing with box, you're playing with the game.
You can't play the game if it arrives damaged.
Corvin
05-29-2010, 08:36 PM
So out of a case of, what 50 games few are vulnerable to puncture, in the rare case that actually happens.
Also if a game arrives damaged, most places have no issues replacing them. Hassle, maybe, but it's not like you are simply fucked.
Chacrana
05-29-2010, 08:49 PM
Shouldn't they lower the price of the game since they saved on plastic costs?
You really care that they aren't passing the savings of a fraction of a cent on to you?
nddave
05-29-2010, 09:17 PM
Shouldn't they lower the price of the game since they saved on plastic costs?
Exactly!! This is a cost cutting measure im sure the "green friendly" sounds nice. I payed 50.00. Thats alot of money give me a case worth a grain of salt. If its a half a cent then give me the original case back!!
SpazX
05-29-2010, 09:32 PM
Half a cent per case for them is thousands of dollars. Half a cent per case for you is half a cent. Or like 50 cents for every game you buy. And in any case they don't charge you anything for the most part, they sell to retailers. So they'd charge the retailer a half a cent less and the retailer would price the game exactly the same as they would anyway.
If enough people bitch or if enough games get damaged so that it costs them money then they'll change it, otherwise why would they care? It's saving them money and they can spin it as them caring about the environment. And incidentally using less plastic probably does help the environment a little.
thelonepig
05-29-2010, 09:38 PM
So out of a case of, what 50 games few are vulnerable to puncture, in the rare case that actually happens.
Also if a game arrives damaged, most places have no issues replacing them. Hassle, maybe, but it's not like you are simply fucked.
Really? Perhaps I ought to reiterate. Over half of the movies I have received in eco cases have come damaged. That's not exactly a 'rare' case. Also, it is a huge hassle to return a movie or game, especially if purchased online.
It may not be a huge issue for you and you can live with it. For others (myself included), I'd rather have a sturdier case that can withstand a bump or two.
UncleBob
05-29-2010, 09:52 PM
So out of a case of, what 50 games few are vulnerable to puncture, in the rare case that actually happens.
Also if a game arrives damaged, most places have no issues replacing them. Hassle, maybe, but it's not like you are simply fucked.
The problem isn't just that these cases suck and can damage your game/movie. The problem is that there are much, much better solutions out there that do everything these cases do - better and then some - all while not risking damage to the game I just spent $50 on.
KillerRamen
05-29-2010, 10:26 PM
If enough people bitch or if enough games get damaged so that it costs them money then they'll change it, otherwise why would they care? It's saving them money and they can spin it as them caring about the environment. And incidentally using less plastic probably does help the environment a little.
My solution is to just not buy games anywhere near MSRP. I've been pretty successful at getting most of the Wii games I'm interested in for $5-15 (Metroid Prime Trilogy, Muramasa, A Boy and His Blob, Punch-Out!!, Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World) and I really don't see any reason why I should pay any more than that.
...If they really cared about the environment Nintendo wouldn't have put an entire novella into the Super Mario Galaxy 2 box and moved to a Blu-Ray style case.
Corvin
05-30-2010, 08:04 AM
Really? Perhaps I ought to reiterate. Over half of the movies I have received in eco cases have come damaged. That's not exactly a 'rare' case. Also, it is a huge hassle to return a movie or game, especially if purchased online.
If we are going to go with anecdotal evidence then out of the dozen or so of these cases I have over 360, Wii and DVD, I've had 0 damaged. Maybe you are just unlucky or have trained monkeys working at your post office/UPS store. :lol:
I think the simplest solution that would please everyone would be just do the cutout on the front flap and not the back, therefore still protecting the disc. OCD gamers ;) are happy and Nintendo still gets to look good for "going green" and save a few pennies.
mastagoalie
05-30-2010, 08:18 AM
I just bought Mario Galaxy 2 and it came in an eco box:bomb:, the ones with all the holes in it that wont do anything to protect your game:bomb:. Is any one else pissed off about this? These boxes do not save the environment, they are just cheaper to make.
do you complain that your cigarettes box isn't really crush proof too? Do you plan to try a crush test with the game in the box? No then why do you care when the big N is charging 10 less for games than sony and ms. if you really have a problem, go snatch a game case from gamestop (5 finger probably) and make your problem better.
KillerRamen
05-30-2010, 11:11 AM
If we are going to go with anecdotal evidence then out of the dozen or so of these cases I have over 360, Wii and DVD, I've had 0 damaged. Maybe you are just unlucky or have trained monkeys working at your post office/UPS store. :lol:
I think the simplest solution that would please everyone would be just do the cutout on the front flap and not the back, therefore still protecting the disc. OCD gamers ;) are happy and Nintendo still gets to look good for "going green" and save a few pennies.
What I think is hilarious is that Nintendo packed in 3.3 ounces of paper into their 1.9 ounce "green" Super Mario Galaxy 2 case.
Corvin
05-30-2010, 06:52 PM
What I think is hilarious is that Nintendo packed in 3.3 ounces of paper into their 1.9 ounce "green" Super Mario Galaxy 2 case.
yeah, I mentioned that above. It doesn't quite add up.
sassylaurie
05-30-2010, 07:04 PM
You want to complain, how about these crappy flat cardboard mailers with no padding being used to ship games from Amazon & Gamestop so the cases arrive crushed.
sciafb
05-31-2010, 11:32 AM
Wow, I only just found out from this thread that Nintendo finally is changing cases. Sure am happy I got mine in an original case or I would have been pissed. Just by principle no one should stand for such shitty cases. No matter how much anyone thinks its a good idea, they could have saved a ton more plastic if they just shortened them to ps3 game case sizes (and not including the blu ray top piece of plastic no one has purpose for).
It's just bullshit to have solid cases, then later say, "oh, we should have never had made solid cases!" Yeah ok, lets just cut into an existing design and completely compromise it.
Those who stack cases ontop each other should know they do not like being stacked, they like being shelved, but even then you always start crushing the artwork anytime you take the case into your hand.
In my opinion, the design is lazy, half-assed, and all PR, none of it was done for the environment, look at the recycle icon on left size. Just who the hell recycles a game case, or throws them out? And if that was a problem, guess what, its your town's fault for not giving you an opportunity to rid yourself of your excess plastic.
I will continue to not buy new games from now on that could contain these shit for cases and replace them with the real ones, as I have already done with Xbox360 since Modern Warfare 2. Next gen cases can't come soon enough (assuming they come up with a non-shit design).
Let me protect my investment DAMN IT! GIMME REAL CASES!
I think I found an appropriate comment on destructoid:
"
Shitty disposable box? No booklet? DRM piece of shit?
No thanks, I'll get it on Steam or Pirate Bay instead, that's eco for real.
What I actually need to want to possess a physical copy is a shiny expensive-looking box, a beautiful artsy booklet and the guaranteed my copy will work for as long as I own it."
This change can most definitely give more people reason to just pirate a game, whats the benefit to buying the physical legit copy? Eco case isn't in favor of the matter.
nddave
05-31-2010, 12:57 PM
Alot of this is principle i didnt pay 50.00 to get NO MANUAL AND/OR A CRAP CASE. Next thing you know they will sell it to you in a paper sleeve (recylable paper of course)
Lone_Prodigy
05-31-2010, 02:50 PM
Is it just me, or is the reaction to these "eco-cases" being blown slightly out of proportion here?
Jewel cases are terrible. You can make the cases smaller but then there's shelf space to consider. Manuals? Personally I hate the two-page black-and-white manuals that EA put in their cases, partly because they slide out really easily.
Was there an uproar when PC games went to thinner DVD cases?
thelonepig
05-31-2010, 05:32 PM
If we are going to go with anecdotal evidence then out of the dozen or so of these cases I have over 360, Wii and DVD, I've had 0 damaged. Maybe you are just unlucky or have trained monkeys working at your post office/UPS store. :lol:
Well, see, it makes sense that you don't care as you haven't had any problems. I've had enough that I'm adamantly against the eco case.
sciafb
06-01-2010, 02:37 AM
Cons that apply to these Eco cases are:
You can unhealthily twist the case
Normal use of the disk release button will force you to make indents in the back of the case because of the weakness of the whole case refuses to stay still when you attempt to remove a disk the normal way.
They don't always snap closed in an acceptable manner, usually due to the tendency for the case to twist before actually letting the snap pieces go in correctly. You could twist it to get it to close without actually sandwiching the edge as normal!
They can be punctured by any number of things and potentially let you ruin a case or disk rather than just damaging the plastic wrap over the artwork. Whether people think someone is stupid for allowing something like this or not, some people are parent's have kids, and they destroy things very easily. A good bunch of parents actually backup game disks just so the kids don't ruin the originals!
Bad PR, you may not beable to please everyone, but 'going green' was always bullshit. The only reason someone will beable to speak well of 'going green' is when not only is it more profitable, but more reasonable in terms of our impact on the world as they say, and the opportunities it creates for people, alternatives of oil consumption for example is a good thing. Just remember that these cases are not anything but a way to save plastic, which intern saves cash for the manufacturer of the plastic cases, not anyone else.
Manuals get the same axe quickly after because the we don't make a big enough collective fuss about it. (For xbox360 this pretty much already happened from what I've seen)
Compromises the integrity of a case, why would you cut into a existing design to satisfy green movement freaks? But only to piss off your customers who don't even really throw out the plastic!?!
You won't see the savings that companies see on it, you will still pay the same price for less, because you are the loser. Look at game downloads for retail games? Maybe after release it may go to a more appropriate ratio of cost, but for releases, there is no excuse not to save the cash it takes to make the materials for a physical copy.
Lighter to ship is a pro for retailers and probably resellers too, but in general you won't see that cost savings when You do the buying.
Pros:
Saves the manufacturer in materials.
Good PR to non-gaming folks, and people who just don't understand and think its all good.
Allows retailers to probably save a small sum on all whole sales.
You probably could hoard the original cases now, sell them on ebay next gen when collectors realize how SHITTY they are, and make a nice 3-5 bucks per case! Something like that maybe..
Lighter to ship for retailers, less plastic = less weight = less cost to mail.
You can trade you games away with the awful cases and get rid of them, ?!?!, and profit?
Hmm did I miss anything?
crunchewy
06-01-2010, 11:53 AM
I want my 1/4 cent!!!:bomb:
The savings comes, primarily, I believe, from lowered shipping costs. Less weight per game means less money spent on shipping. I imagine that the savings for them is quite substantial. These cases are primarily about reducing costs, not really so much about being green. Having said that, using less plastic also has an environmental benefit. Plastic fills landfills for eternity. On the other hand, hand, if the cases are so cheap that they tend to break, then more of the cases are going to end up in the landfill then did before, so it could actually be worse! So there's a balance that needs to be met for this really to have a green benefit, and for that matter, not a green detriment.
Myself, I can't say whether or not these new lighter cases are bad from a non-breaking standpoint. My copy of Read Dead Redemption arrived with the spindle partly broken, but those spindles have come partly broken on the older, heavier cases as well, so I'm not sure that's an indication of anything there.
Lost_In_Shadows
06-02-2010, 02:16 PM
My Super Mario Galaxy 2 from Amazon had one of the newer cases.
Sir_Fragalot
06-09-2010, 02:56 PM
My Mario Galaxy 2 has one of these "eco-cases". While I make sure my discs are in top not condition, it makes me ask the question: Why do we even have cases if they have big holes cut out that makes damaging your disk, 10x easier?
Seems kinda pointless here. Also it annoys me that if my back gets damaged (which it wont but if it did) my disk will become a fucking dust magnet.