View Full Version : Anyone see Eminem's new video?
hiccupleftovers
10-27-2004, 05:20 PM
Sorry Guys I wish I had a link to but at least I can describe it. The new video/song is called "Mosh" and well let's just say any doubts that I had on Em's rhyming ability have gone away. After that "Just Lose It" fiasco which I didn't think was up to his ability/at all good this finally rest my fears. The boy's still got it. He can definently rile someone up especially the video. The video looks like it was made by the same people that did Chronic Future's last video "Time and Time Again". SOme pretty cool stuff, I definently like the artwork. Also, I believe you can actually see some cameos from their video in it.
Edit: Thanks deadzone for the link.
Here it is again
http://launch.yahoo.com
Edit Again: Thanks deadzone for the correction. Hope it's good now.
Edit for the third time:
I hope that E-Z-B won't mind if I borrow the links he had.
Windows Media Player
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/interscope/eminem/encore/video/mosh-rev/000_mosh-rev.asx
Real Player
http://boss.streamos.com/real/interscope/eminem/encore/video/mosh-rev/000_mosh-rev.ram
Quicktime
http://movies10.archive.org/3/movies/Mosh2/GNN_Mosh_bb2.mov
or
http://boss.streamos.com/qtime/interscope/eminem/encore/video/mosh-rev/300_mosh-rev.mov
x0thedeadzone0x
10-27-2004, 05:22 PM
It's on http://launch.yahoo.com.
I'm loading it right now.
x0thedeadzone0x
10-27-2004, 05:29 PM
Hell yeah he is. But the song was amazing, as was the video. I really liked the artwork. INFINITELY better then Just Lose It. I never had a doubt in my mind, and I like how he referenced some of the lyrics in white america into this, since it went along with the theme.
EDIT: Ahh hiccup, you might want to delete that period in the link. But yeah, it's right on the front page, so I don't feel like directly linking to it.
Eastsidecracker
10-27-2004, 05:30 PM
I dont like eminem anyways.
Think everyone seen this.
FriskyTanuki
10-27-2004, 05:31 PM
He is going to get some bad press for the video, But bad press is good press for him.
Yeah, bad news is good news for Eminem. The press never seem to get that in their heads when they try to say he is too vulgar which makes people go get his CDs to see how vulgar he is. It's just like the GTA games, the more they are protested the more they sell.
xzafixz
10-27-2004, 05:31 PM
Ugh, what is with all the pop music jumping on the political bandwagon, it's already old.
hiccupleftovers
10-27-2004, 05:33 PM
Hell yeah he is. But the song was amazing, as was the video. I really liked the artwork. INFINITELY better then Just Lose It. I never had a doubt in my mind, and I like how he referenced some of the lyrics in white america into this, since it went along with the theme.
He's going to et alot of bad press. I too loved the artwork in this one, if you haven't seen or heard of Chronic Future's last song/video for "Time and Time Again" you should check it out. I'm almost 100%certain that the guys that did that video did this one. they are very similiar for their condeming the war. I thought that video wuold have gotten a lot of bad press but sadly it stayed under the radar. Thay're a really good band too boot.
x0thedeadzone0x
10-27-2004, 05:35 PM
Hell yeah he is. But the song was amazing, as was the video. I really liked the artwork. INFINITELY better then Just Lose It. I never had a doubt in my mind, and I like how he referenced some of the lyrics in white america into this, since it went along with the theme.
He's going to et alot of bad press. I too loved the artwork in this one, if you haven't seen or heard of Chronic Future's last song/video for "Time and Time Again" you should check it out. I'm almost 100%certain that the guys that did that video did this one. they are very similiar for their condeming the war. I thought that video wuold have gotten a lot of bad press but sadly it stayed under the radar. Thay're a really good band too boot.
I've definitely heard of Chronic Future, I love them. They're great, Time and time again is one of my favorite songs (along with shellshock). I haven't seen the video though, I'll be sure to check that out. Thanks though. And yeah, they are sort of an underground band, I doubt they will stay that way for too long though.
punqsux
10-27-2004, 05:36 PM
Ugh, what is with all the pop music jumping on the political bandwagon, it's already old.
dude its cool to hate bush this year (though no one seemed to care the 1st 3 years he was in office :roll:
my roomate and i joke about it how "punk rawk" it is to hate bush, and we keep saying we're gunna vote FOR bush just to piss everyone off
Scorch
10-27-2004, 05:36 PM
This is all last week's news.
He just had a new song leak.. it's called "One Last Time".
x0thedeadzone0x
10-27-2004, 05:38 PM
Ugh, what is with all the pop music jumping on the political bandwagon, it's already old.
dude its cool to hate bush this year (though no one seemed to care the 1st 3 years he was in office :roll:
my roomate and i joke about it how "punk rawk" it is to hate bush, and we keep saying we're gunna vote FOR bush just to piss everyone off
O_O do it, and your neck will look as displayed in your sig.
:twisted:
pimp_daddy_smurf
10-27-2004, 05:43 PM
eminem sucks. i cant stand rap.
hiccupleftovers
10-27-2004, 05:43 PM
It's nice having the backing of deadzone in my corner :D :wink:.
Backlash
10-27-2004, 05:44 PM
Another thread about this, from yesterday:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35819
CheapyD
10-27-2004, 05:45 PM
Ugh, what is with all the pop music jumping on the political bandwagon, it's already old.
dude its cool to hate bush this year (though no one seemed to care the 1st 3 years he was in office :roll:
my roomate and i joke about it how "punk rawk" it is to hate bush, and we keep saying we're gunna vote FOR bush just to piss everyone off
O_O do it, and your neck will look as displayed in your sig.
:twisted:
Good response ;)
Dok Diamond
10-27-2004, 05:46 PM
Al gore shouldve been our president, never liked bush and i just saw this video on mtv a lil bit ago
hiccupleftovers
10-27-2004, 05:50 PM
Another thread about this, from yesterday:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35819
Oooops...I hadn't seen that one and didn't think of making a search for this since I thought it was fairly new. Like Dok Diamond said, I just saw it today a little earlier on MTV, when they play music videos. Besides, this has turned out to be an entertaining discussion, don't you think?
x0thedeadzone0x
10-27-2004, 05:56 PM
Ugh, what is with all the pop music jumping on the political bandwagon, it's already old.
dude its cool to hate bush this year (though no one seemed to care the 1st 3 years he was in office :roll:
my roomate and i joke about it how "punk rawk" it is to hate bush, and we keep saying we're gunna vote FOR bush just to piss everyone off
O_O do it, and your neck will look as displayed in your sig.
:twisted:
Good response ;)
Woo HOOO cheapy recognized I exist! My life is now complete ;)
Yeah don't worry hiccup, I'm with you. I don't like rap in general but for Eminem I make an exception. :)
8ball917
10-27-2004, 05:59 PM
Ugh, what is with all the pop music jumping on the political bandwagon, it's already old.
dude its cool to hate bush this year (though no one seemed to care the 1st 3 years he was in office :roll:
my roomate and i joke about it how "punk rawk" it is to hate bush, and we keep saying we're gunna vote FOR bush just to piss everyone off
Good point.
swetooth9
10-27-2004, 06:01 PM
yea, "Why" had something in there against bush but its nothing as bad as this video...
Backlash
10-27-2004, 06:04 PM
Actually, Eminem's Square Dance (no video that I know of) had anti-Bush and anti-war lyrics whenever that album came out, years ago.
hiccupleftovers
10-27-2004, 06:05 PM
Yeah don't worry hiccup, I'm with you. I don't like rap in general but for
Eminem I make an exception. :)
Cool, thanks and I got your back. Yaeh I really don't like to much rap but Eminem i can stand and he truly is an amazing lyricist. I can't stand all of that cruuuunnnnnnnnkkkkkk garbage.
hiccupleftovers
10-27-2004, 06:06 PM
Actually, Eminem's Square Dance (no video that I know of) had anti-Bush and anti-war lyrics whenever that album came out, years ago.
Yaeh and he's got that whole Dick Cheney and FCC thing as well. i remember he made fun of Cheney in his "Without Me" video a couple of years ago.
x0thedeadzone0x
10-27-2004, 06:08 PM
Yeah don't worry hiccup, I'm with you. I don't like rap in general but for
Eminem I make an exception. :)
Cool, thanks and I got your back. Yaeh I really don't like to much rap but Eminem i can stand and he truly is an amazing lyricist. I can't stand all of that cruuuunnnnnnnnkkkkkk garbage.
I completely agree, I think he's incredible. I can't stand any of that rap/hip-hop (or cruuuuuunnkk :lol:) shit, Eminem, (D12 but mostly only because Eminem's in it) and maybe some Tupac but that's basically it.
EDIT: Well, Em's made a whole lot of references to the president in a whole lot of his songs. White America had some, Square Dance had some, Without me, We as americans (pretty new track, but it got him a lot of controversy for saying "I'd rather see the president dead"), etc etc. But this is the first one completely against it that I've seen, with only we as americans and white america trailing behind.
hiccupleftovers
10-27-2004, 06:11 PM
I go with old school LL Cool J, some Notorious B.I.G>, Tupac, Eminem and D12( like you said Eminem), Dr. Dre, most Snoop, and anything Jay-Z. I like alot of the old school rap when it was still pure from all this crrruuuuunkkkkk and bitches and hoes shit and every rapper emulating every other rapper. I like the stuff from back in the day like Run DMC, KRS-One, some others that aren't coming to me as of this moment.
x0thedeadzone0x
10-27-2004, 06:12 PM
Old-school rap was good, but the new stuff is 99% shit. If you've ever heard "Lean back", you know what I'm talking about. :puke:
Dok Diamond
10-27-2004, 06:15 PM
Krs-one was hard and big l was to.
swetooth9
10-27-2004, 06:18 PM
Old-school rap was good, but the new stuff is 99% shit. If you've ever heard "Lean back", you know what I'm talking about. :puke:
sure its bullshit, but......
<_<
>_>
its got a good beat :lol: 8)
Indiana
10-27-2004, 06:21 PM
Hopefully that will get young people to vote.
punqsux
10-27-2004, 06:27 PM
almost all rap that gets radio play sucks.
rap i like is jurassic 5, tribe, nwa, run dmc, stuff along those lines
tupac sucks.. b.i.g. sucks if they hadnt gotten shot i doubt anyone would care about them
Magician
10-27-2004, 06:30 PM
I'm stunned. That video was just phenomenal. I've never been a big fan of Eminem, but that just skyrocketed my respect for me. Definitely one of the best videos I have ever seen.
The Successful Dropout
10-27-2004, 06:34 PM
Ugh, what is with all the pop music jumping on the political bandwagon, it's already old.
dude its cool to hate bush this year (though no one seemed to care the 1st 3 years he was in office :roll:
my roomate and i joke about it how "punk rawk" it is to hate bush, and we keep saying we're gunna vote FOR bush just to piss everyone off
actually, "the eminem show" was released in the year 2002 and eminem ranted on about bush way before his last year (hopefully) in office
example: http://www.ohhla.com/anonymous/eminem/the_show/square.mnm.txt
those lyrics may not be 100% accurate to the song (due to them being fan-submitted lyrics), but you get the point
edit: i didnt see that deadzone already touched on this....thanks :P
sblymnlcrymnl
10-27-2004, 08:05 PM
I think this is the worst thing I've ever heard out of Em ... but it's something he's been behind for a while now so it's not like he's jumping on the bandwagon.
I listen to all kinds of music (except country), Eminem is far from the only good lyricist out there. Especially while Kweli and Mos Def are still around.
yeahokthenfu
10-27-2004, 08:10 PM
This is to the OP
Not to be rude or anything but I posted this like a long ass time ago
edit: Oct 5th to be exact http://cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33249&highlight=ems+video
yeahokthenfu
10-27-2004, 08:12 PM
Actually, Eminem's Square Dance (no video that I know of) had anti-Bush and anti-war lyrics whenever that album came out, years ago.
All this talk about anti-bush from eminem
If youll listened to everything he produced, even the stuff not released on a cd or that got banned since he said "id rather see the president dead" in one of his songs called We As Americans. Yeah this song got banned right away
MadChedar0
10-27-2004, 08:24 PM
I go with old school LL Cool J, some Notorious B.I.G>, Tupac, Eminem and D12( like you said Eminem), Dr. Dre, most Snoop, and anything Jay-Z. I like alot of the old school rap when it was still pure from all this crrruuuuunkkkkk and bitches and hoes shit and every rapper emulating every other rapper. I like the stuff from back in the day like Run DMC, KRS-One, some others that aren't coming to me as of this moment.
This is the part of the program where I'm supposed to say "Blackstar", "Common Sense", and "The Roots". :)
Azul_KoolAid
10-27-2004, 10:09 PM
almost all rap that gets radio play sucks.
rap i like is jurassic 5, tribe, nwa, run dmc, stuff along those lines
tupac sucks.. b.i.g. sucks if they hadnt gotten shot i doubt anyone would care about them
Man, You may not like Biggie or Pac but they did have skills and they were the top rappers in the mid 90's. You have no idea what you're talking about (IMO) but I'm gonna respect your opinion.
It's true alot of the new pop rap is bad all you gotta do is to your ear to the ground and check out mixtapes and such. Big name rappers still make them the whole Jay-Z/Nas battle started out on mixtapes.
sblymnlcrymnl
10-28-2004, 12:49 AM
almost all rap that gets radio play sucks.
rap i like is jurassic 5, tribe, nwa, run dmc, stuff along those lines
tupac sucks.. b.i.g. sucks if they hadnt gotten shot i doubt anyone would care about them
Man, You may not like Biggie or Pac but they did have skills and they were the top rappers in the mid 90's. You have no idea what you're talking about (IMO) but I'm gonna respect your opinion.
It's true alot of the new pop rap is bad all you gotta do is to your ear to the ground and check out mixtapes and such. Big name rappers still make them the whole Jay-Z/Nas battle started out on mixtapes.
Pac was alright, but BIG sucked hard. Also, Nas is 10x the lyricist Jay ever hoped to be.
Azul_KoolAid
10-28-2004, 02:45 AM
almost all rap that gets radio play sucks.
rap i like is jurassic 5, tribe, nwa, run dmc, stuff along those lines
tupac sucks.. b.i.g. sucks if they hadnt gotten shot i doubt anyone would care about them
Man, You may not like Biggie or Pac but they did have skills and they were the top rappers in the mid 90's. You have no idea what you're talking about (IMO) but I'm gonna respect your opinion.
It's true alot of the new pop rap is bad all you gotta do is to your ear to the ground and check out mixtapes and such. Big name rappers still make them the whole Jay-Z/Nas battle started out on mixtapes.
Pac was alright, but BIG sucked hard. Also, Nas is 10x the lyricist Jay ever hoped to be.
That's your opinion. Pac got the world's attention but he contradicted himself all the damn time but that's why some people love him. Biggie told stories through his raps a first back then but damn was that mofo ugly I don't know how he got Faith. They both have they're +'s and -'s I prefer Pac but I respect Biggie also.
dnt_h8me2
10-28-2004, 02:51 AM
Em>Pac>Nas>Jay-Z>Biggie
sblymnlcrymnl
10-28-2004, 02:55 AM
Em>Pac>Nas>Jay-Z>Biggie
That's pretty close to my list, but I'd take Nas over Pac.
evilmax17
10-28-2004, 02:56 AM
Em>Pac>Nas>Jay-Z>Biggie
Randy Savage (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000CF348/qid=1098942938/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-2843816-8342565?v=glance&s=music&n=507846)>Em>Pac>Nas>Jay-Z>Biggie
evilpenguin9000
10-28-2004, 03:35 AM
^^^^ Ya know I used to agree with this until I heard the Grey Album and that made me like Jay-z a lot more. Plus Dangermouse is the fuckin man.
As far as Em's new song, I like the content, but the beat doesn't really do it for me.
dnt_h8me2
10-28-2004, 03:36 AM
It is one of his more slower songs.
Azul_KoolAid
10-28-2004, 04:00 AM
I'd have to think about it before I made a list.
hiccupleftovers
10-28-2004, 01:48 PM
This is to the OP
Not to be rude or anything but I posted this like a long ass time ago
edit: Oct 5th to be exact http://cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33249&highlight=ems+video
Ummm......No offense taken at all but just to let you know, that was for his last video entitled 'Just Lose It" this is thread is for the new recently released video for "Mosh" . Totally different things as you can see. I was even a part of that thread as I made many notable qoutes and posts.
zewone
10-28-2004, 01:59 PM
Em>Pac>Nas>Jay-Z>Biggie
Jay-Z>Biggie>Nas>Em>Pac
MadChedar0
10-28-2004, 02:07 PM
Em>Pac>Nas>Jay-Z>Biggie
Jay-Z>Biggie>Nas>Em>Pac
Biggie>Nas>Pac>JayZ>Em
hiccupleftovers
10-28-2004, 02:10 PM
Hey cool, one of CAG's own rap afficianados (sp) has come in, zewone. I was wondering when you post.
Sartori
10-28-2004, 02:13 PM
Em>all
I'm also particularly surprised this video is even airing.
hiccupleftovers
10-28-2004, 02:22 PM
almost all rap that gets radio play sucks.
rap i like is jurassic 5, tribe, nwa, run dmc, stuff along those lines
tupac sucks.. b.i.g. sucks if they hadnt gotten shot i doubt anyone would care about them
Man, You may not like Biggie or Pac but they did have skills and they were the top rappers in the mid 90's. You have no idea what you're talking about (IMO) but I'm gonna respect your opinion.
It's true alot of the new pop rap is bad all you gotta do is to your ear to the ground and check out mixtapes and such. Big name rappers still make them the whole Jay-Z/Nas battle started out on mixtapes.
Pac was alright, but BIG sucked hard. Also, Nas is 10x the lyricist Jay ever hoped to be.
That's your opinion. Pac got the world's attention but he contradicted himself all the damn time but that's why some people love him. Biggie told stories through his raps a first back then but damn was that mofo ugly I don't know how he got Faith. They both have they're +'s and -'s I prefer Pac but I respect Biggie also.
That is very true. IMO both Nas and Jay-Z are awesome unbeliveable rappers but difference between them is that Jay-Z is a great party rapper that knows how to incorporate into his rhymes truth and reality into. You really fell his emotions. Nas is very much the lyricist that Jay-Z is but I just don't think he could do a party song that included depth in it. It's really hard to say the point I'm trying get across but hopefully you see. I like them both but I prefer Jay-Z over Nas.
I'm not sure why I'm even making a list because I like all of them so I guess it would be something along the lines of Em>Pac>Jay-Z>Nas>Biggie but bear in mind that those are quite interchangeable.
CapAmerica
10-28-2004, 02:37 PM
I've never been a fan of Eminem, But he has gain alot of respect from me for this music video.
I'm sending these links to everyone I know.
zewone
10-28-2004, 02:45 PM
I don't want to quote the whole quote, but I'll say I never really got into Pac's music. I can see how people have him as there favortie rapper just not mine. Biggies lyrics are just too great to say he sucked hard. And Nas too is a great lyricist but he doesn't have a huge range. Great songs, but like hiccup said he can't do any kind of party song. And Jay-Z is really the greatest rapper alive. He has range, depth, lyrics, beats, and respect. He knows how to make a hot song, if its a slow deep song or a club banger its gonna be great. The only thing is he needs to stay away from teh R&B, like the Best of Both Worlds which was just mediocre.
hiccupleftovers
10-28-2004, 03:05 PM
I don't want to quote the whole quote, but I'll say I never really got into Pac's music. I can see how people have him as there favortie rapper just not mine. Biggies lyrics are just too great to say he sucked hard. And Nas too is a great lyricist but he doesn't have a huge range. Great songs, but like hiccup said he can't do any kind of party song. And Jay-Z is really the greatest rapper alive. He has range, depth, lyrics, beats, and respect. He knows how to make a hot song, if its a slow deep song or a club banger its gonna be great. The only thing is he needs to stay away from teh R&B, like the Best of Both Worlds which was just mediocre.
Exactly. thank you for putting into words what I was thinking. I thought the Best of Both Worlds was little better than mediocre, I'd put it at slightly above average. There was a few good songs on there.
Pezdro
10-28-2004, 03:19 PM
I don't want to quote the whole quote, but I'll say I never really got into Pac's music. I can see how people have him as there favortie rapper just not mine. Biggies lyrics are just too great to say he sucked hard. And Nas too is a great lyricist but he doesn't have a huge range. Great songs, but like hiccup said he can't do any kind of party song. And Jay-Z is really the greatest rapper alive. He has range, depth, lyrics, beats, and respect. He knows how to make a hot song, if its a slow deep song or a club banger its gonna be great. The only thing is he needs to stay away from teh R&B, like the Best of Both Worlds which was just mediocre.
Sigh, All Jay-Z songs after resonable doubt are about " I sold coke, but I don't any more" "I got a lot of shit, everybody look at my shit" " I'm fucking Beyonce. I'm so much uglier than you, but I'm fuckin' beyonce".
I'm going to contiune to sleep on Jay-Z, especially after Talib Kweli flipped on him, "If lyrics sold, then truth be told/I'd probably be as rich and famous as Jay-Z/Truthfully, I wanna rhyme like Common Sense/Next best thing, do a record with Common Sense". (http://www.ohhla.com/anonymous/t_kweli/struggle/gh_show.tab.txt)"
I believe this list is,
Nas > Biggie > Em > Tupac > Ghostface > Talib Kweli > Mos Def > Pun > Common > Black Thought > Jay-Z > > > Hova.
I love Jay-Z though for lighting the fire under NAS's ass. That brought back Queensbridge in the rap game.
Oh and MOSH is the hottest song/album this year. It needs to win major awards next year.
zewone
10-28-2004, 03:27 PM
I don't think Talib used the line as harsh way to get at Jay-Z. All he did was flip the lyrics from the Black Album where Jay was saying pretty much that Kweli was the best lyricist right now. So I don't think he was mad at Jay. And did you not like Hov after The Takeover and Super Ugly? It seems that Nas is your favorite rapper and that may have knocked him down on why you don't like him. I would do a whole list of rappers I like like you but I hate placing them in order unless its the five everybody talks about like I already did.
Pezdro
10-28-2004, 03:48 PM
I don't think Talib used the line as harsh way to get at Jay-Z. All he did was flip the lyrics from the Black Album where Jay was saying pretty much that Kweli was the best lyricist right now. So I don't think he was mad at Jay. And did you not like Hov after The Takeover and Super Ugly? It seems that Nas is your favorite rapper and that may have knocked him down on why you don't like him. I would do a whole list of rappers I like like you but I hate placing them in order unless its the five everybody talks about like I already did.
I don't think Talib was per se knocking him down, but for me it pointed out the holes in Jay-Z's persona. If Jay-Z wanted to be taken as a lyric rapper and acknowledge these other artist on the fringe, why did he not do the sensible thing and do a track with Common Sense?
I avoid the whole rapper beef thing personally. I respect Jay for alot of work he's done, but I don't like how his subject matter has stayed to several basic topics in the last few years. It's not as bad as Nas's FIRM period, but I always feel that Jay-Z handcuffed himself by releasing work that was more about selling better than rhyming. He's whole reason for leaving the rap game is that he makes more as the CEO of his company than rapping.
Jay-Z is still all about his cash and that right there drops him from as an amazing MC in my eyes. He's not there to rock the mike. Biggie had that level of materialism but was better on the mike overall than JayZ.
I also did the whole long rapper quote thing to kind of point at some underated MCs particarly Ghostface and Big Pun.
zewone
10-28-2004, 03:53 PM
I can respect that. Your right, he did not go to his full potentional (He admitted it himself he did it to have a bigger audience which means more money). But even Jay not at his best is still better than a lot of other rappers. Maybe not everybody, but he is up there.
Tromack
10-28-2004, 04:03 PM
The music video is quite good.
I'm glad that since rocking the vote has failed, we have now resorted to rapping/hip-hopping the vote.
sblymnlcrymnl
10-28-2004, 05:47 PM
I don't think Talib used the line as harsh way to get at Jay-Z. All he did was flip the lyrics from the Black Album where Jay was saying pretty much that Kweli was the best lyricist right now. So I don't think he was mad at Jay. And did you not like Hov after The Takeover and Super Ugly? It seems that Nas is your favorite rapper and that may have knocked him down on why you don't like him. I would do a whole list of rappers I like like you but I hate placing them in order unless its the five everybody talks about like I already did.
If I was really making a list my top 5 (not necessarily in order) would be Em, Mos Def, Nas, Kweli, and probably Dizzee at the moment. Red and Meth would be up there close to it too.