CAGcast #204: 11 Minute Deadlock

[CheapyD]

15060[/IMG-L]Tons of games are discussed this week, including: Singularity, Crackdown 2, Transformers, Lego Harry Potter, Kane & Lynch 2, Puzzle Quest 2, and Ancients of Ooga. We've also got the latest gaming and shopping news, your CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382) and Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/cheapyd) questions and much more!

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Intro: Kissy Sell Out, Alex Metric Essential Mix 3/6/10

New Releases (http://tech-gaming.com/2010/06/26/new-releases-62773.aspx)

CAG Contests (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/competitions.php?)

Alpha Protocol - There will be no Beta Protocol (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/06/alpha-protocol-sequel-denied-low-sales-to-blame/)
Blizzard Cracks Down On Anonymity In Official Forums (http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/MultiplayerBlog/%7E3/qnKeQSJlcIA/)
Mortal Kombat Creator Says Genre's Complexity Hurting Sales, Still Wants to Appeal to Hardcore Fans (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3180275)

EyePet PSP and Invizimals may not support PSP Go in North America (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/07/eyepet-psp-and-invizimals-may-not-support-psp-go-in-north-americ/)
The Tester Season 2 Casting Opens Up for Community Voting! (http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/PSBlog/%7E3/uuhJIXq2ox4/)

XBLA Summer of Arcade Priced and Dated (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/101914-XBLA-Summer-of-Arcade-Detailed-5-Cool-Looking-Games-for-15)
Coming soon: Destination Arcade (http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/MajorNelson/%7E3/x5Y1XiDO6QU/coming-soon-destination-arcade.aspx)
Xbox Live Is Microsoft's New Billion Dollar Business (And Activision Wants A Piece) (http://kotaku.com/5581839/xbox-live-is-microsofts-new-billion-dollar-business-and-activision-wants-a-piece)

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Outro: JimmieMac Voicemail
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[DragonX2]

Just what the doctor ordered

[JMEPO]

yay!

[drew327]

Lol Wombat just disappears.

[ramatut4001]

Perfect. I have a long drive today.

[Dr Cliff Huxtable]

I love getting the podcast on Thursday morning right before I get off of work, it makes 3am-5am just a little bit easier.

Downloading it to my Droid now, can't wait to listen to some good ol' shenanigans.

[TheToiletDuck]

I loved it how CheapyD was fact checking Ship like he actually thought he might be wrong :P



Lol Wombat just disappears.

I know right? He must have been kicking himself for not being around when Cheapy was talking about his wrists not being able to take it.

[johnnyrocker360]

Good show guys but I have to disagree, Bioshock 2 was a great game. I enjoyed it very much and it's one of my favorite games this year.

[Wombat]

The file I sent to Cheapy was missing my last 15 minutes. I have the full file but those amazing jokes will now never be heard by the masses.

[newslowsad]

Throwing this on my iPod for work now.

[miqspot]

This is a bit late as it was discussed on last weeks podcast but I, as Shipreck, love banana ice cream. It's amazing.

That is all.

[shajek]

How do I sign up for the "Hour of Victory Tour"? I'm more than willing to subject myself to torture for a few hours; I've already listened to every Joystiq podcast.

[Thomas96]

I'm so glad that I finished and enjoyed Transformers: WFC before listening to you guys put it down.

[katzd2007]

Another great Cagcast when are you guys going to do another live one?

[hoofrog]

I just want to point out that Boatcrash says "do do" at 15:33. It's the little things that make me laugh. Finally a subtle poop joke from someone other than Cheapy. lol.

[bobthecat23]

Jmac fans unite!

[JadedJedi]

Loved the developer theater! you guys are back to your usual selves after that infighting 2 episodes ago. I forgot to log in for the last episode but my mom's commentary was the best. "They are actually talking about games for once instead of shit." ROFL.

[Abeja]

Im not even that big of a Transformers game, I havent even seen the second movie and Im enjoying it alot. Like the coop, escalation, and versus modes.

[gokuofheaven]

Ship, how can you forget about Dragon Quest as one of the new releases? Unless, you were being sarcastic. Anyways I always enjoy your input, keep up the great work.
(http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../?f=2117)

[shipwreck]

Ship, how can you forget about Dragon Quest as one of the new releases? Unless, you were being sarcastic. Anyways I always enjoy your input, keep up the great work.
(http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/../?f=2117)

Dragon Quest IX comes out this coming Sunday. That usually falls under next week's releases on our show. That's why I was caught off guard.

[LiK]

Shippy, you forgot my shout out, I am sad.

Btw, Mushihimesama and EspGaluda 2 rawks.

[Wombat]

Shippy, you forgot my shout out, I am sad.

Btw, Mushihimesama and EspGaluda 2 rawks.

if it helps, we talked about you after the show

[bmulligan]

Jimmymac finally got banned? Good, fuck that rat bastard.

[FinalBloodfest]

The description of the deadlock in Singularity sounds exactly like Timeshift... and that game was pretty bad...

[apathylad]

Shipwreck was right, LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga (http://www.giantbomb.com/lego-star-wars-the-complete-saga/61-11120/) had online co-op.

[LiK]

if it helps, we talked about you after the show

oh man, i hope it was a positive discussion, lol.

[gokuofheaven]

Dragon Quest IX comes out this coming Sunday. That usually falls under next week's releases on our show. That's why I was caught off guard.

No problem. Regardless I would like to hear your thoughts on it in the next CagCast if you pick it up.

[FriskyTanuki]

Lebron is choosing between Chicago, Cleveland, and Miami, not New York and New Jersey.

Ludia just sucks at making these game show games, as they also released them on Wii and the iPhone and are now putting them on the PS3, too. I feel sorry for anybody that buys the games they are putting out.

Cheapy, you should just watch Giant Bomb's Quick Look (http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-limbo/17-2852/) for Limbo to see more of the actual game than a trailer allows. Limbo's the only game of the list that is interesting, which is sad since I've enjoyed most of the games they've had in previous years. I expected every game to be $15 this year since there have been more and more $15 games this year.

I really don't need another slow-loading app on the Xbox 360 dashboard and the ability to see what your friends rated a game should've been a part of the ratings system when it was first added. They either need to block ratings until the game is out or require you to own the game to be able to rate it. The dashboard is slow enough as it is without more crap that just piles it on.

Activision already gets a substantial amount of money from the MW2 map pack sales and they also signed a big exclusivity deal with MS over map packs for the next two Call of Duty games. I don't really see why they should get a cut of subscription sales and even then, they'd have to share with every other publisher and developer unless there's a way to tell exactly why each person signed up for Live and distribute the money accordingly.

Cheapy's body/arms/hands couldn't handle holding the Wii Remote and Nunchuck and now he can't handle a PC mouse? You can use a wired Xbox 360 controller on a lot of PC games on Steam if you're that concerned about the mouse.

Good show.

[kashwashwa]

Jimmymac finally got banned? Good, fuck that rat bastard.

That clip was from ages ago if I remember correctly. I was wondering what made cheapy decide to throw it on the end of this episode. I'm not complaining, I loved it the first time - pretty hilarious...

[usickenme]

I still don't get why people ask serious video game questions to the 2 most uniformed people ever to record video game podcast.

Maybe they hope Ship will speak up.

-What has been proposed with the 3DS is much of the control will move to the round nub (slide pad)

[LiK]

That clip was from ages ago if I remember correctly. I was wondering what made cheapy decide to throw it on the end of this episode. I'm not complaining, I loved it the first time - pretty hilarious...

yea, sounded familiar. i guess that's what Cheapy decided to replace Wombat's missing 15 minutes with?

[chesspiece_face]

Not only does Activision get money for the content they sell on Xbox Live but wait... how much is Microsoft paying them to have that content be exclusive to Xbox Live? And this guy thinks they should get more? Shut up.

[newslowsad]

Good episode. Glad the good vibes are back. Agree with Cheapy that Limbo looks great.

[Microshock]

Not finished with the show yet but I think here's another fart from someone on the cast (Wombat?) at 55:40 to 55:41.

[shafnitz]

Cheapy: I found this out by accident a few weeks ago, if you delete the Zune marketplace item from your storage device, watching your game videos goes back to the old better way. I don't ever rent or buy anything from the Zune marketplace, so I'm not missing anything.

[Mixer236]

Not only does Activision get money for the content they sell on Xbox Live but wait... how much is Microsoft paying them to have that content be exclusive to Xbox Live? And this guy thinks they should get more? Shut up.

Fuck Activision. They're such whores for money...

[ramatut4001]

Cheapy: I found this out by accident a few weeks ago, if you delete the Zune marketplace item from your storage device, watching your game videos goes back to the old better way. I don't ever rent or buy anything from the Zune marketplace, so I'm not missing anything.

Hey, I'm going to try that. Thanks!

[KingBroly]

Cheapy: I found this out by accident a few weeks ago, if you delete the Zune marketplace item from your storage device, watching your game videos goes back to the old better way. I don't ever rent or buy anything from the Zune marketplace, so I'm not missing anything.

That's what I did, and I'm perfectly fine with it. The fact that they don't have an option for BOTH on the dash at once is a joke. Along with a lot of other things on the dash.

Shipwreck, you could easily put Dragon Quest IX on next week's Sweet Releases since it launches on the traditional Nintendo Sunday, along with the Blue DSiXL. However, if you forget Metroid Other M's release date, you will get a midly upset PM :lol:

However, there isn't much I can say about the show. Wombat was Wombat, Shipwreck was Shiprwreck and Cheapy was...uh....yeah, you get the idea.

[Thomas96]

Thanks Ship for Lebron.. we'll take good care of him!!!!!

[reddjoey]

Cheapy: I found this out by accident a few weeks ago, if you delete the Zune marketplace item from your storage device, watching your game videos goes back to the old better way. I don't ever rent or buy anything from the Zune marketplace, so I'm not missing anything.


Just came here to post the same thing. It's soooo much faster.

[bebop]

Frisky took the word right out of my mouth.


Cheapy's body/arms/hands couldn't handle holding the Wii Remote and Nunchuck and now he can't handle a PC mouse? You can use a wired Xbox 360 controller on a lot of PC games on Steam if you're that concerned about the mouse.


Cheapy does have a point. I imagine he spends a large amount of time at the computer running CAG. But carpal tunnel at your age? Really?

[Knoell]

Just came here to post the same thing. It's soooo much faster.

Can the zune marketplace be redownloaded, and work correctly after deletion?

[sunfiredragon]

Ship - Are you going to do a review of the Lego Harry Potter game? The gf and I hated Lego Indy 2 because only one of you could earn the achievements at a time, and they took the collectibles out of the stages and placed them in the "hub" worlds.

We've historically liked the Lego games, but were disappointed by the lack of depth in the levels and the retarded saving to only one gamertag system they have. I'm hoping HP is a little better.

[banodyne]

Activision already gets a substantial amount of money from the MW2 map pack sales and they also signed a big exclusivity deal with MS over map packs for the next two Call of Duty games. I don't really see why they should get a cut of subscription sales and even then, they'd have to share with every other publisher and developer unless there's a way to tell exactly why each person signed up for Live and distribute the money accordingly.:applause:Agreed. Doesn't seem fair since Activision doesn't have to put up any of the server costs and Xbox is actually doing them a favor since Activision doesn't have to host the CoD servers like they do for the PS3.

[shipwreck]

Ship - Are you going to do a review of the Lego Harry Potter game? The gf and I hated Lego Indy 2 because only one of you could earn the achievements at a time, and they took the collectibles out of the stages and placed them in the "hub" worlds.

We've historically liked the Lego games, but were disappointed by the lack of depth in the levels and the retarded saving to only one gamertag system they have. I'm hoping HP is a little better.

Yes, they're will be a review sometime next week. We're going to play more this weekend.

[smarkbran]

I really enjoyed the show as always guys! And much like Shipwreck, I review games for Gamerfill.com (shameless plug) and I get my play time in when my wife goes to sleep. I too average about 5 hours of sleep a night, so it was nice to hear I was not the only one, and totally felt where he was coming from.

[jkanownik]

Ship - Are you going to do a review of the Lego Harry Potter game? The gf and I hated Lego Indy 2 because only one of you could earn the achievements at a time, and they took the collectibles out of the stages and placed them in the "hub" worlds.

We've historically liked the Lego games, but were disappointed by the lack of depth in the levels and the retarded saving to only one gamertag system they have. I'm hoping HP is a little better.

Lego HP is by far the best Lego game from a content standpoint, but it is also the buggiest (especially with the achievements). Many of the achievements are one player only, so when you combine that with the bugs/glitches it could take four full playthroughs to get all 1,000 points for two players. That won't come out in Shipwreck's review unless he goes for 100%.

I hope Shipwreck watched the movies over the last week because the story is completely nonsensical otherwise.

[bgame2]

Shipwreck:

You mentioned your opinion that Sony is releasing the move a little prematurely (instead of during the holiday period like microsoft's kinect).

While I see your point, do you (as well as Cheapy and Wombat) think this could be just as attributable to bad marketing as it is to recognizing that Microsoft gained an advantage over them by releasing the 360 before the PS3. In other words, could this just be Sony's reacting to the pressure to release their peripheral first in hopes of gaining a 360-like advantage.

Thanks for your thoughts.

[sunfiredragon]

Lego HP is by far the best Lego game from a content standpoint, but it is also the buggiest (especially with the achievements). Many of the achievements are one player only, so when you combine that with the bugs/glitches it could take four full playthroughs to get all 1,000 points for two players. That won't come out in Shipwreck's review unless he goes for 100%.

I hope Shipwreck watched the movies over the last week because the story is completely nonsensical otherwise.

That is disappointing to hear, but not unsurprising. We always shoot for 100%, and I don't really want to deal with playing through upwards of (really, 4!?) four times. I appreciate the info though.

[bjkrautk]

Re: things you get with PSN+


I think it was Cheapy who asked about whether you get to keep the 'free' DLC that comes with PSN+ membership after that membership lags.

It isn't free....and I can't stand when people say things like that. If you're not paying for PSN+, you would otherwise have to pay for this content. If you are paying the subscription fee for PSN+....you've made a down-payment on anything/everything you actually utilize that comes with the service.

I see the misuse of the word 'free' in commercials all the time. Adding things to a service you're already paying for doesn't mean that the new thing is free; if you can't get the new thing without paying for the old thing....then the new thing isn't free. I understand why marketers want to use the word - it has a certain magnetism that I'm sure most CAGs appreciate. Of course, if we aren't the ones to point out this obvious logical flaw....who will?

Just because you're not going to your digital wallet at the point of download, that doesn't make it free.

[bigloser]

I haven't listen to the Cagcast in awhile because the podcast is no longer being uploaded to the Zune Marketplace.

[Microshock]

:applause:Agreed. Doesn't seem fair since Activision doesn't have to put up any of the server costs and Xbox is actually doing them a favor since Activision doesn't have to host the CoD servers like they do for the PS3.

Servers? What servers? If COD had any servers, it wouldn't have to rechoose the host everytime they left.

I think the only servers they run on the PC and PS3 are those worthless matchmaking servers.


Shipwreck:

You mentioned your opinion that Sony is releasing the move a little prematurely (instead of during the holiday period like microsoft's kinect).

While I see your point, do you (as well as Cheapy and Wombat) think this could be just as attributable to bad marketing as it is to recognizing that Microsoft gained an advantage over them by releasing the 360 before the PS3. In other words, could this just be Sony's reacting to the pressure to release their peripheral first in hopes of gaining a 360-like advantage.

Thanks for your thoughts.

It's not bad marketing. The slim PS3 also released September of 2009 and it sold amazingly well thru the holidays, better than the 360.

[skubish]

Assume show guys. The clip at the end was riDONKulous.

[Swoxx]

Good show guys. i missed wombat at the end though, stupid technology!

Edit: also what's up with the really old JimmieMac voicemail that you played on a cast along time ago at the end? did i miss something in this show?

[padlok]

Cheapy
I hate that ZUNE video/marketplace too.
I just know I used to have a simple tab for VIDEOS, then one day I couldn't get to my videos without setting up the ZUNE update. Within minutes I had spam mail from MS to say thanks for buying and using your zune on the zune marketplace. WTF??? I don't have a zune I don't use the zune marketplace. I simply watch game trailers on my xbox. It's just a way of MS fudging and boosting the ZUNE numbers. Total MS-BS. I also hate that everytime I go into my videos the Transformers and X-files trailers are there and I can't get rid of them. I HATED the Transformer movie. Why can't I delete it???

Shipwreck
My iPhone 3GS slowed slightly and the battery life disappeared after upgrading to iOS4. I got in the habbit of clearing that multi-tasking Queue, I switched to the basic Apple supplied wallpaper and startup screens, then turned off a lot of the pointless push apps(like Facebook, etc etc), and did a shutdown and reboot. Now my battery life is close to normal. Before doing this my battery would go from 100% to 50% in an just over an hour on standby. Hope that helps.


just in. Blizzard has dropped the Real ID posting.

[reddjoey]

Can the zune marketplace be redownloaded, and work correctly after deletion?

Yes. Just launch it from the channel from the dashboard and you will get a prompt to d/l it and hen another to update it

[Knoell]

Yes. Just launch it from the channel from the dashboard and you will get a prompt to d/l it and hen another to update it

Cool, Thanks, I will delete it now, I just wanted to make sure I wasnt banishing myself from buying anything from the Zune Marketplace, not that I likely will, but I like to keep my options open.

[Marxist]

Stupid excuse for not wanting to get a new PC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_thumb

So I guess you are going to stop playing video-games all together now?

[jkanownik]

Stupid excuse for not wanting to get a new PC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_thumb

So I guess you are going to stop playing video-games all together now?

I'm definitely not playing the Cello anymore.

[bickle]

Cheapy: I found this out by accident a few weeks ago, if you delete the Zune marketplace item from your storage device, watching your game videos goes back to the old better way. I don't ever rent or buy anything from the Zune marketplace, so I'm not missing anything.

You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. That's a great tip!

[bickle]

Cheapy does have a point. I imagine he spends a large amount of time at the computer running CAG. But carpal tunnel at your age? Really?

It has nothing to do with age and everything to do with activity & ergonomics. I developed carpal tunnel from playing too much Quake. ><

[stinkynate]

Cheapy:
I totally hummed the Sega sound to myself just before you did... creepy.

Also, about the PS+ content, pretty much every release from Sony says add-ons and themes are yours to keep forever, even after your subscription ends. The message just defaults to show for anything you download as part of the PS+ deals for some reason. My guess is they don't have any way set up to link addons and themes to expire like they do games. Games can have an expiration shown in their information, but add-ons install straight into the game data folder.

[Neji]

Great show as always guys. Glad that any bad will among the three of you seems to be thing of the past.
Just want to comment that the clip at the end of the show was freaky. What a self-absorbed guy!
Keep up the great work!

[ChernobylCow]

Great show guys I'm glad to hear your discussion of Singularity and I'm glad it turned out to be a decent game. However, I turned the podcast off after you were done discussing the games you'd been playing because I found your news and stuff to be retreading territory left to more dedicated game bloggers.

Shipwreck, what sort of pellets would you say were in that Sumo chair?

[Goemar]

Great show guys, glad to see my question on there. Ship any info about Death Smiles coming to the UK or not would be hugely appreciated. Oh and if you see the other games that Cheapy expertly pronounced for a cheap price please let us fellow CAGs know and maybe you could pick up a few copies. $70 for a shmup is pretty painful on the wallet...

[Exton]

I demand the return of Womberto.

[Javery]

Shipwreck - I just listened to this week's CAGcast and I heard you are stuck on around 85,000 on Donkey Kong. I will bet anything you are on the third elevator stage and can't get past it - this is the level that you need more than pure skill to finish. You need to know how the level works in order to get past the springs.

Check out this diagram:

http://www.wired.com/images/howto/hp_beat_dk_f.jpg

You want to run on the "A" spring and only go up the ladder if a "B" spring follows. If you get another "A" spring you have to run back to the safe spot (4). Also this video explains it pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKs8HSVkKGc

From one Donkey Kong fan (http://donkeykongrestore.blogspot.com/) to the next, I hope this helps - once you get past here your score will skyrocket.

[supermidget]

Is it just me, or has the Cagcast become one of the highlights of most people's week?

[stinkynate]

Is it just me, or has the Cagcast become one of the highlights of most people's week?

You say this as if its a bad thing!