RE4 no longer exclusive to GCN

[CaseyRyback]

http://lithium.1up.com/zd/board/message?board.id=egm_disc&message.id=284989

someone posted some reviews in the Video Game Reviews section posted a link to the EGM boards and this was one of the topics at the top of the pile.


Can't say I am suprised, but am a little disappionted

[guyver2077]

the world has come to an end!!

quoted from zero_reborn at that board....

""Resident Evil 4 now on PS2! Now with Jaggies and lower textures!"

lmao

[punqsux]

cant say that i care, because i have both cube and ps2, but thats pretty cool for people who are cubeless

[basketkase543]

Is this real? Kinda strange that Capcom would refer to Resident Evil 4 as one of their "million seller titles" when it hasn't even come out. Doesn't seem quite right.

[dcfox]

Would this also mean that the remake and 0 will be ported over to the ps2 as well?

[CaseyRyback]

cant say that i care, because i have both cube and ps2, but thats pretty cool for people who are cubeless

I would have rather seen a port to the Xbox. As much as I like my PS2, there is no way it can handle the graphics that RE 4 has shown

[hiccupleftovers]

Wow this to me is partially a huge shocker. I was expecting it to be exclusive to the cube. I'm not so shocked because slowly Capcom has been bringing back there games to PS2 (i.e. Viewtiful Joe).

[MadChedar0]

Interesting to say the least.

[guyver2077]

cant say that i care, because i have both cube and ps2, but thats pretty cool for people who are cubeless

I would have rather seen a port to the Xbox. As much as I like my PS2, there is no way it can handle the graphics that RE 4 has shown

exactly!!!! if your gonna make it multi=platform do it right....bring it to xbox!!

[guyver2077]

what pisses me off is after years of saying that they will stick with nintendo etc and that "resident evil 4 will be exclusive to gamecube"

then they do this shit like always....fuck!!

[Wshakspear]

for the people who will spout off without readin: GC still coming out early nexy year, PS2 ver. wont be until end of year. Its at least a time exclusice, which worked for Splinter Cell at least

[CaseyRyback]

what pisses me off is after years of saying that they will stick with nintendo etc and that "resident evil 4 will be exclusive to gamecube"

then they do this shit like always....shaq-fu!!

as disappionted as I am, at least it is not coming out for a long time. By them I will be done killing zombies with the chainsaw controller

[Ikohn4ever]

can anybody confirm this, seems a lil fishy

[basketkase543]

can anybody confirm this, seems a lil fishy

That's what I'm saying. See my previous post above.

[greendj27]

I think its fake. I just checked capcoms website and they list all their press releases. This one was not on the site. Makes me think it was a hoax. Heres a link to the list:

http://www.capcom.com/news/

[CaseyRyback]

I hope it is fake, but figured it was worth posting in case it is not

[greendj27]

It would explain more if it's fake. Like why no Xbox version.

[CapAmerica]

EGM is known for making stuff up, Has there been any offical word from Capcom on this?

It seems kind of strange for Capcom to be doing this, I mean you would think they would port RE0 first to the PS2 or even port over the remastered version of RE1 for the PS2. and on the last trailer Capcom released for RE4 it had a big "Only For GameCube" on it.
The downgrade that RE4 will have to go threw also makes this seems pretty fishy.

Until Capcom says something I'm not beliveing it.

[guyver2077]

damn capcom and their anti-xbox love...but still i pray this will remain exclusive...or atleast exclusive for some time...shit i have to wait like a year for san andreas to come out for x or pc ( i refuse to play it on ps2..its just painful) so they can wait as well

[janglypangly]

The document in the link looks fake:-\

[CapAmerica]

The Xbox is much more suited for ports of the GameCube RE games then the PS2, there would be so much of a downgrade that the games would look pretty shitty on the PS2.

[CaseyRyback]

damn capcom and their anti-xbox love...but still i pray this will remain exclusive...or atleast exclusive for some time...shit i have to wait like a year for san andreas to come out for x or pc ( i refuse to play it on ps2..its just painful) so they can wait as well

you guys got Steel Battalion and you get all the CAPCOM fighters with online play. Can't see how they are not showing you the love

[greendj27]

Actually after reading the fake press release again, I am almost positive it's fake. There are so many typos and grammatical mistakes that no company would ever allow in a press release.

[Sartori]

EGM is known for making stuff up, Has there been any offical word from Capcom on this?

It seems kind of strange for Capcom to be doing this, I mean you would think they would port RE0 first to the PS2 or even port over the remastered version of RE1 for the PS2. and on the last trailer Capcom released for RE4 it had a big "Only For GameCube" on it.
The downgrade that RE4 will have to go threw also makes this seems pretty fishy.

Until Capcom says something I'm not beliveing it.

Hmm.. after two seconds I realize that this is written by a Japanese man with English has his second language.

Three seconds later I find my self on capcom.co.jp to see it as a headline.

Confirmed.

[Scorch]

Yeah, it's linked from capcom.co.jp.

Too bad it's not going to come out for the XBox....


...or is it?!

[YoshiFan1]

I guess since it's on Capcom's site it is official. They are probably realizing what a mistake it was to put all of the RE games as exclusives on GCN when it was PSX that got the series popular.

[Sartori]

Is this real? Kinda strange that Capcom would refer to Resident Evil 4 as one of their "million seller titles" when it hasn't even come out. Doesn't seem quite right.

They're not saying "Resident Evil 4" is a million seller titles - but that the "Resident Evil Series" is a million seller.

You're looking at it wrong.

[snipegod]

Capcom can really go f' themselves.

It's ridiculous how companies treat the GameCube, and then they wonder why sales are low.

[guyver2077]

damn guess its true...jesus

dammit..it just gets me mad that they fought the temptation so long and now they decide to do this after denying it for so long!!!!

[jputahraptor]

More proof that Nintendo ain't the kind of player it used to be. It's sad that they can't even hold on to their franchises anymore. If Gamecube games sold better, 3rd party publishers wouldn't have to port games to cover losses.

[Sartori]

More proof that Nintendo ain't the kind of player it used to be. It's sad that they can't even hold on to their franchises anymore. If Gamecube games sold better, 3rd party publishers wouldn't have to port games to cover losses.

If third party games were of higher quality, they might sell better.

[snipegod]

If more franchises weren't ported over to different systems or released on different systems in the first place, then Nintendo sales would be better.

[CapAmerica]

Man RE4 is going to look so shitty on the PS2.

I'm getting pretty sick of GameCube Only series move over to the PS2. And the GameCube getting nothing in return.

Okay they give them RE4, how about tossing the GameCube Devil May Cry or any one of their PS2 only series. They take the time to downgrade Huge Hit GameCube titles to the PS2 why not port over some Huge Hit PS2 games to the GameCube and Xbox.

Stupid Capcom.
I hope RE4 BOMBS big time on the PS2.

[CaseyRyback]

More proof that Nintendo ain't the kind of player it used to be. It's sad that they can't even hold on to their franchises anymore. If Gamecube games sold better, 3rd party publishers wouldn't have to port games to cover losses.

if they spent some money on marketing, they would be in a much better position than they are. You rarely see an ad for a Nintendo game, and 99 pecent of the time it is an EA game.

[greendj27]

More proof that Nintendo ain't the kind of player it used to be. It's sad that they can't even hold on to their franchises anymore. If Gamecube games sold better, 3rd party publishers wouldn't have to port games to cover losses.

if they spent some money on marketing, they would be in a much better position than they are. You rarely see an ad for a Nintendo game, and 99 pecent of the time it is an EA game.

I've seen a lot of Paper Mario ads lately.

[joe50000]

It's already been labeled a million-seller when it isn't even out yet in Japan.

I doubt this is true. The RE games were confirmed to be exclusive to the GC for 0, REmake, and 4. The PS2 obviously can't handle the quality of graphics demanded, indicated by RE: Outbreak with it's medicore graphics and insanely long load times.

[CaseyRyback]

More proof that Nintendo ain't the kind of player it used to be. It's sad that they can't even hold on to their franchises anymore. If Gamecube games sold better, 3rd party publishers wouldn't have to port games to cover losses.

if they spent some money on marketing, they would be in a much better position than they are. You rarely see an ad for a Nintendo game, and 99 pecent of the time it is an EA game.

I've seen a lot of Paper Mario ads lately.

only seen it once

Think of what should have been done for RE, RE 0, MGS, ED, and MP with a good amount of marketing

[dcfox]

Man RE4 is going to look so shitty on the PS2.

I'm getting pretty sick of GameCube Only series move over to the PS2. And the GameCube getting nothing in return.

Okay they give them RE4, how about tossing the GameCube Devil May Cry or any one of their PS2 only series. They take the time to downgrade Huge Hit GameCube titles to the PS2 why not port over some Huge Hit PS2 games to the GameCube and Xbox.

Stupid Capcom.
I hope RE4 BOMBS big time on the PS2.

I never understood why they don't consider porting over older PS2 games like DMC or Onimusha to the GC. Its pretty much run its course on the PS2 and I'm sure it will sell moderately well on the GC. Would the cost of porting it over not be worth the potential sales?

[Sartori]

It's already been labeled a million-seller when it isn't even out yet in Japan.

I doubt this is true. The RE games were confirmed to be exclusive to the GC for 0, REmake, and 4. The PS2 obviously can't handle the quality of graphics demanded, indicated by RE: Outbreak with it's medicore graphics and insanely long load times.

Feel free to read my (or other people's) posts in the thread before you make yours.

You might learn something.

[BLarR]

Well, Capcom turns out to be less of a blithering idiot than I originally thought.

[jputahraptor]

The way I look at it if a game is released across all 3 consoles gamecube is the least likely to sell. They don't support online so the more and more games that use this feature don't and can't share that with Nintendo. Xbox has the better graphics and PS2 has a good share of the market and regardless of graphics have the advantage of more of their systems in homes.

Sure Nintendo has quality but since they take it slow they can't sell more Mario games or any of their hardcore oldschool franchises because they simply aren't making enough each console.

If you really stop and think about it, Xbox has graphics and the best online features, PS2 has the library, online, and big franchises and what does Nintendo have, from a feature perspective that would look good to third party developers.

Im not bashing Nintendo just trying to prove why this is happening to Nintendo.

[guyver2077]

now gamecube is left with like no must have exclusives with exception of first party games

[Gameboy415]

God fucking dammit.

[basketkase543]

Is this real? Kinda strange that Capcom would refer to Resident Evil 4 as one of their "million seller titles" when it hasn't even come out. Doesn't seem quite right.

They're not saying "Resident Evil 4" is a million seller titles - but that the "Resident Evil Series" is a million seller.

You're looking at it wrong.

You are looking at it wrong. Here is the quote, "Capcom Co, Ltd. (CAPCOM) is pleased to announce that 'Resident Evil 4', which is one of our million seller titles, will be released for Gamecube and Playstation 2".

It clearly says that Resident Evil 4 is a million seller title.

[Sartori]

Is this real? Kinda strange that Capcom would refer to Resident Evil 4 as one of their "million seller titles" when it hasn't even come out. Doesn't seem quite right.

They're not saying "Resident Evil 4" is a million seller titles - but that the "Resident Evil Series" is a million seller.

You're looking at it wrong.

You are looking at it wrong. Here is the quote, "Capcom Co, Ltd. (CAPCOM) is pleased to announce that 'Resident Evil 4', which is one of our million seller titles, will be released for Gamecube and Playstation 2".

It clearly says that Resident Evil 4 is a million seller title.

Read it again. Also understand that the creator of this release is utilizing English as a second language.

I think it's pretty clear, the intentions that is..

[Alpha2]

Both capcom and Nint where hoping RE would be a system seller, it didnt turn out to be that way because too many PS2 owners felt the GC was below them to buy it as their second system and people who bought the XB were unconvinced it could produce better graphics.

In the end the PS2 wins this game based on it's sales numbers. More installed systems means more possible sales. They probably could have sold a few million to people here with XBs probably as many as they will on PS2 (should this prove true) but in japan it's still not as respected a system so PS2 gets it back. Also while I felt the lighting effects in RE0 and Remake were probably beyond the PS2's ability I didn't really experience anything in the RE4 demo that cant be done on it. Yeah a few textures will probably drop in quality and the load times might be longer and graphics whores will complain about "jaggies" but in the end it'd still be the more econimical system choice for conversion. And maybe later XB might get a couple of games when Capcom has the time and some extra cash to put into the ports.


But as I said this is all dependant on whether ot not this is even a true possibility.

[Rig]

I am a big Nintendo fan. If anyone deserves to be #1 in video game sales, it is them. They produce high-quality systems and games, and yet they have almost no third-party support, and those they do have (Capcom) move Nintendo's exclusives. This is a shame, because they are getting screwed.

[jputahraptor]

I agree Alpha2, good points. And yeah they'll bitch about every jagged edge God forbid. And somehow i can remember enjoying mario brothers back in 87 with brick looking trees, brick looking turtles, and brick looks clouds and still have a great time.

[basketkase543]

Is this real? Kinda strange that Capcom would refer to Resident Evil 4 as one of their "million seller titles" when it hasn't even come out. Doesn't seem quite right.

They're not saying "Resident Evil 4" is a million seller titles - but that the "Resident Evil Series" is a million seller.

You're looking at it wrong.

You are looking at it wrong. Here is the quote, "Capcom Co, Ltd. (CAPCOM) is pleased to announce that 'Resident Evil 4', which is one of our million seller titles, will be released for Gamecube and Playstation 2".

It clearly says that Resident Evil 4 is a million seller title.

Read it again. Also understand that the creator of this release is utilizing English as a second language.

The point being made is very clear here. ESPECIALLY if you read the.. oh.. REST of the press release.

Funny how I am supposed to read the rest of the press release when i just QUOTED something that proved you wrong. Why bother reading the rest if the first sentence proved my point. Relax man.

[Sartori]

I'll concede for now, but only because the mistake is also made on the headline.

[CapAmerica]

The way I look at it if a game is released across all 3 consoles gamecube is the least likely to sell. They don't support online so the more and more games that use this feature don't and can't share that with Nintendo. Xbox has the better graphics and PS2 has a good share of the market and regardless of graphics have the advantage of more of their systems in homes.

Thats actually not true.
Soul Calibur II, PSO, Viewtiful Joe and Sonic Heroes all sold better on the GameCube then the PS2 and Xbox.

Online is not that big of a feature. besides Sports titles there are very very little cross platform Online games.

Lets not get into the graphics argument. There have been studies and papers writen that show that the Xbox and GameCube are very close in graphic power.

[davidflecha17]

I really don't care if it comes out for ps2. The gamecube version is going to be better. The game is actually designed for the gamecube controller. you will not get that same gaming experience as the gamecube version would give you because of this. the ps2 version would load like crazy and take away from the graphics department.

I just think that it is not fair that nintendo got screwed on their exclusivity deal from capcom. They were supposed to make REO,1,4 exclusive along with viewtiful joe, killer 7, and PN 03.

now 3 of these games are being ported to PS2, all I have to say is that Nintendo should sue Capcom.

[CaseyRyback]

Pretty sure they will add HDD support to negate the loading times on the PS2 version

[joeposh]

That document sounds so unprofessional it's not even funny... Just listen to how awkward some of those sentences are and how odd some of the word choice is.

Besides while I wouldn't be surprised if RE 4 ends up on another console eventually, I'm pretty sure Nintendo has Capcom locked in a certian exclusivity agreement... and usually those have a window in which ports can't be announced. I guess we'll find out later today though.

[Alpha2]

Dosent matter if they're close or not fanbois will come up with all kinds of arguments.

The facts are thou that even if this is true we're still talking about a 11 month lead time for the 'Cube. I'm probably still going to buy that version just to play it, I dout there'll be extras in the PS2 version that are all that great. (ooh dante, playable!? maybe I'll get the greatest hits version in 2006!)

I think it also bares mentioning that the link UNDER the post showing this release is also shown in japanese so it is indeed a bilingual press release.

[jputahraptor]

The way I look at it if a game is released across all 3 consoles gamecube is the least likely to sell. They don't support online so the more and more games that use this feature don't and can't share that with Nintendo. Xbox has the better graphics and PS2 has a good share of the market and regardless of graphics have the advantage of more of their systems in homes.

Thats actually not true.
Soul Calibur II, PSO, Viewtiful Joe and Sonic Heroes all sold better on the GameCube then the PS2 and Xbox.

Online is not that big of a feature. besides Sports titles there are very very little cross platform Online games.

Lets not get into the graphics argument. There have been studies and papers writen that show that the Xbox and GameCube are very close in graphic power.


Soul Caliber sold well for the cube because of the exclusive character Link as opposed to spawn or whoever sony got. VJ never released on Xbox and took almost a year before it was ported. Poor examples but gamecube games are almost never the strongest of the games released across all systems.

[R1V3R5]

Hmm... I still think this doesn't sound right. Don't get me wrong, I have a PS2 and a GC but I have not read anything else anywhere that confirms this. Until I hear anything officially from Capcom then I'm just going to ignore this.

[Trakan]

The way I look at it if a game is released across all 3 consoles gamecube is the least likely to sell. They don't support online so the more and more games that use this feature don't and can't share that with Nintendo. Xbox has the better graphics and PS2 has a good share of the market and regardless of graphics have the advantage of more of their systems in homes.

Thats actually not true.
Soul Calibur II, PSO, Viewtiful Joe and Sonic Heroes all sold better on the GameCube then the PS2 and Xbox.

Online is not that big of a feature. besides Sports titles there are very very little cross platform Online games.

Lets not get into the graphics argument. There have been studies and papers writen that show that the Xbox and GameCube are very close in graphic power.

Soul Calibur II sold better for GCN because it had the best exclusive character. Viewtiful Joe has been out for PS2 for only a few months. Those are bad examples.

[R1V3R5]

Well, dammit, I checked the link to that press statement and it is actually hosted at Capcom of Japan's official site. WTF!

[tenzor]

I bought my gamecube at first for the resident evil series, but after time I came to love my gamecube more. However that is a big blow for nintendo because resident evil 4 was one of the top games to bring them sells. I am still buying it for gamecube because of three reasons, 1.) it will look better 2.) the ps2 version prob wont be out until summer 05 or fall and 3.) I already own RE0-RECV on GC so it would look better in my collection to have RE4 along with them.

[CaseyRyback]

Hmm... I still think this doesn't sound right. Don't get me wrong, I have a PS2 and a GC but I have not read anything else anywhere that confirms this. Until I hear anything officially from Capcom then I'm just going to ignore this.

CAPCOM's Japan website confirmed this, what more do you need?

[jputahraptor]

LOL Traken we made the exact same points.

[R1V3R5]

Hmm... I still think this doesn't sound right. Don't get me wrong, I have a PS2 and a GC but I have not read anything else anywhere that confirms this. Until I hear anything officially from Capcom then I'm just going to ignore this.

CAPCOM's Japan website confirmed this, what more do you need?


That is funny because I corrected myself shortly after and you still chose to quote my first post. :roll:

[sj41]

The way I look at it if a game is released across all 3 consoles gamecube is the least likely to sell. They don't support online so the more and more games that use this feature don't and can't share that with Nintendo. Xbox has the better graphics and PS2 has a good share of the market and regardless of graphics have the advantage of more of their systems in homes.

Thats actually not true.
Soul Calibur II, PSO, Viewtiful Joe and Sonic Heroes all sold better on the GameCube then the PS2 and Xbox.

Online is not that big of a feature. besides Sports titles there are very very little cross platform Online games.

Lets not get into the graphics argument. There have been studies and papers writen that show that the Xbox and GameCube are very close in graphic power.

Soul Calibur II sold better for GCN because it had the best exclusive character. Viewtiful Joe has been out for PS2 for only a few months. Those are bad examples.They're the only examples! :wink:

[Alpha2]

VJ for PS2 is a poor seller, anyone truely interested bought it for the cube already and those who didn't buy it for the cube have already bought the PS2 version or are waiting for the GH price. It simply took too long but thats BECAUSE of the exclusivity deal.

Most every exclusivity deal comes with a time limit there's no such thing as a permanant 3rd party game, if someone wants Gungrave or Spy Fiction for the XB or if someone wants Crazy Taxi 3 for PS2 they have to wait six months to a year and hope M$ or $ony asks for it, which they wont because they;re low selling titles and wouldnt sell a single system.

If RE4 comes to the PS2 in december of 2005 Nintendo looses nothing the only part of it that screws nintendo is that they've announced it early, which HELPS Capcom because it means their stock holders are happy and will buy more stock which helps their bottom line.

[CaseyRyback]

Hmm... I still think this doesn't sound right. Don't get me wrong, I have a PS2 and a GC but I have not read anything else anywhere that confirms this. Until I hear anything officially from Capcom then I'm just going to ignore this.

CAPCOM's Japan website confirmed this, what more do you need?


That is funny because I corrected myself shortly after and you still chose to quote my first post. :roll:

whats funny is you edited your post well after I typed my reply. Also if you would have bothered to read the thread, there would have been no need for you to even post on the matter of it being fake or not

[dcfox]

Soul Caliber sold well for the cube because of the exclusive character Link as opposed to spawn or whoever sony got. VJ never released on Xbox and took almost a year before it was ported. Poor examples but gamecube games are almost never the strongest of the games released across all systems.


I think while cross platform sales have been lower on the GC than on the other two consoles, the quality of the game itself might be better. I just went through gamerankings and quite a few new releases have ranked higher on the GC then on either the xbox or ps2. For example Second Sight, X-Men Legends, Megaman X: Command Mission, Def Jam: Fight for NY, SRS and TMNT 2 all ranked above either the PS2 or Xbox version if not both.

[CaseyRyback]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/10/31/news_6111911.html

[R1V3R5]

Hmm... I still think this doesn't sound right. Don't get me wrong, I have a PS2 and a GC but I have not read anything else anywhere that confirms this. Until I hear anything officially from Capcom then I'm just going to ignore this.

CAPCOM's Japan website confirmed this, what more do you need?


That is funny because I corrected myself shortly after and you still chose to quote my first post. :roll:

whats funny is you edited your post well after I typed my reply. Also if you would have bothered to read the thread, there would have been no need for you to even post on the matter of it being fake or not


I did not edit my post, moron. Go look at the bottom and look to see if it said it was edited. Does it? No! Learn to use a message board before you accuse people of editing shit.

[alongx]

I'd get it for GC anyway, unless the PS2 version got cheaper first.

[CaseyRyback]

Hmm... I still think this doesn't sound right. Don't get me wrong, I have a PS2 and a GC but I have not read anything else anywhere that confirms this. Until I hear anything officially from Capcom then I'm just going to ignore this.

CAPCOM's Japan website confirmed this, what more do you need?


That is funny because I corrected myself shortly after and you still chose to quote my first post. :roll:

whats funny is you edited your post well after I typed my reply. Also if you would have bothered to read the thread, there would have been no need for you to even post on the matter of it being fake or not


I did not edit my post, moron. Go look at the bottom and look to see if it said it was edited. Does it? No! Learn to use a message board before you accuse people of editing shit.

If I quoted a post that you later changed, how is this not an edit?

I am sorry you did not go through and read the whole thread before posting. Maybe next time you will read a thread, instead of having to have people point out things to you

[sj41]

I just went through gamerankings and quite a few new releases have ranked higher on the GC then on either the xbox or ps2.I think that's because that more Nintendo (fan) magazines/websites review the games raising the score of the GameCube version of games on GameRankings. Atleast that's what I think.

[msdmoney]

How exactly does this exclusivity work again. Is a game exlcusive unless they feel like making it for anothers system. It sounds like there was no deal in the first place.

[msdmoney]

I just went through gamerankings and quite a few new releases have ranked higher on the GC then on either the xbox or ps2.I think that's because that more Nintendo (fan) magazines/websites review the games raising the score of the GameCube version of games on GameRankings. Atleast that's what I think.

You can't really compare the rankings of multiplatform games since some system only magazines review them.

[dcfox]

I just went through gamerankings and quite a few new releases have ranked higher on the GC then on either the xbox or ps2.I think that's because that more Nintendo (fan) magazines/websites review the games raising the score of the GameCube version of games on GameRankings. Atleast that's what I think.

You can't really compare the rankings of multiplatform games since some system only magazines review them.

I had them sorted out by average score of main sites, I'm not exactly sure what that entails, but I'm assuming it excludes smaller fan sites and the such. But pretty much take the info with a grain of salt since most of scores are like a point or even in some cases a tenth of a point differential between each version. Just thought it might be interesting to note.

[R1V3R5]

Hmm... I still think this doesn't sound right. Don't get me wrong, I have a PS2 and a GC but I have not read anything else anywhere that confirms this. Until I hear anything officially from Capcom then I'm just going to ignore this.

CAPCOM's Japan website confirmed this, what more do you need?


That is funny because I corrected myself shortly after and you still chose to quote my first post. :roll:

whats funny is you edited your post well after I typed my reply. Also if you would have bothered to read the thread, there would have been no need for you to even post on the matter of it being fake or not


I did not edit my post, moron. Go look at the bottom and look to see if it said it was edited. Does it? No! Learn to use a message board before you accuse people of editing shit.

If I quoted a post that you later changed, how is this not an edit?

I am sorry you did not go through and read the whole thread before posting. Maybe next time you will read a thread, instead of having to have people point out things to you


It still is not an edit since my original post is STILL there and unchanged. Instead I added another post. And the only links provided were the ones to the original message board. I am to believe everything I read on some message board? Sure, now there are links to Gamespot but before there were only links to that other message board. Go ahead, look at my first post and the ones prior to it and tell where I should have read? :roll:

[argyle]

I really don't understand why anyone would be upset about this.

'cube-only people still get the game, earlier and most likely better looking.

ps2-only people now get it as well. They'll just have to wait a bit.

I'm not the least bit surprised that Capcom isn't announcing Xbox ports of RE. Let's face it, this is a very big Japanese series, and the Japanese have all but ignored the 'box.

That said, 'box people can't hate Capcom because they gave them possibly the best 'mech game ever and one of the coolest games this gen w/ Steel Battalion. Capcom has historically been very good about spreading games around.

[CaseyRyback]

page 2 towards the top. There are two consective posts with direct proof that it was not bogus.

Satori and Scorch both tell you exactly where to go to see that it was not fake :roll:

and I think CAPCOM's JAPANESE website is more than enough proof that it was legitimate

[R1V3R5]

page 2 towards the top. There are two consective posts with direct proof that it was not bogus.

Satori and Scorch both tell you exactly where to go to see that it was not fake :roll:

and I think CAPCOM's JAPANESE website is more than enough proof that it was legitimate

Well, the site...

capcom.co.jp

does not work and they both list it. Thats why assume no one posted a link that backed the forum. Go ahead, use that address, same one that those guys listed and it does not work. :roll:

[CaseyRyback]

page 2 towards the top. There are two consective posts with direct proof that it was not bogus.

Satori and Scorch both tell you exactly where to go to see that it was not fake :roll:

and I think CAPCOM's JAPANESE website is more than enough proof that it was legitimate

Well, the site...

capcom.co.jp

does not work and they both list it. Thats why assume no one posted a link that backed the forum. Go ahead, use that address, same one that those guys listed and it does not work. :roll:


works prefectly fine for me. Pulls up the front page, and then all you have to do is look at the investors section.

[R1V3R5]

What browser are you using? I'm on Mozilla 0.9.2 and I don't get anything.

[CaseyRyback]

IE

just add www. to it and it works perfectly

[Moxio]

Most disappointing news I've heard all week. Damn Capcom. It'll still be WAY better for the GC; the PS2 just can't cut it.

[Alpha2]

How exactly does this exclusivity work again. Is a game exlcusive unless they feel like making it for anothers system. It sounds like there was no deal in the first place.

Capcom said in the begining that the exclusivity was only for new games in the series: RE0, Remake and 4 were mentioned specifically and then they made a further push for Nintendo with other stuff produced for the cube like Killer 7, P.N.03 Viewtiful Joe and the game with the winged guy that they canceled. VJ did out bout not as well as capcomand nintendo wanted (it didnt cause peple to run out and get Cubes), P.N.03 tanked and they canceled the flying game.

When the RE game they were making didnt sell highly (causing the creator of the RE game to rant on a radio show how he was piss that FFX sold more than his precious remake) Capcom said specifically that they were going to have to probably go back to the table over the deal thay'd made because it wasnt bringing them the profits they expected, so I have to assume the deal was something where BOTH parties needed certain needs to be met, then these deals are made with Outs incase something goes wrong. If Nintendo wanted to drop the investment they'd made for these games because they sucked (which I'm betting is the case with the flying game) the contract would allow that and if Capcom wasn't seeing any cash for games that were exclusive to one system then they could probably pull the exclusivity after a certain point and let another company ask for a port. Hence the situation we see today.

[Mishimaryu]

It will be better on the cube but sell better on PS2! First VJ now RE! :shock:

[Mr. Anderson]

It will be better on the cube but sell better on PS2! First VJ now RE! :shock:

Except VJ bombed on the PS2...

[NintendoFanGirl]

I just hope all of you with GC's will purchase RE4 for that system and not wait for the PS2 version.

[Drico]

It'd be crazy to wait for the PS2 version. I can guarantee you the PS2 version will be a technical suckfest.

[Monsta Mack]

I still think GC version will outsell the PS2 version, and you would be insane to purchase the PS2 version unless it had some sort of exclusives and it was your only system.

RE4 is gonna be jaggie city on the PS2. They should have given the XBox a port and see how well it would sell on there as well.

But this is some pretty sad news, this was the only third party title (so far) I've been looking forward to as an exclusive for the Gamecube next year, and now It's no longer exclusive.

[magilacudy]

It definitely looks fake to me.

But I guess its been proved legit. :?

[CaseyRyback]

I just hope all of you with GC's will purchase RE4 for that system and not wait for the PS2 version.

chain saw controller should be enough reason :twisted:

[Buddy Z]

I still think GC version will outsell the PS2 version, and you would be insane to purchase the PS2 version unless it had some sort of exclusives and it was your only system.

I think you can count on some kind of exclusive content. Capcom is after all the master of unlockin... err i mean double-dipping

[whoknows]

VJ on the PS2 only sold bad because the put it out at the wrong time. I am going to get Resident Evil 4 on Gamecube and PS2 because I am a huge Resident Evil fan. I have RE 2 for the N64 and I dont have an N64. I also drove 2 hours to get ahold of the Gamecube version or RE 2&3. The PS2 version of RE4 wont be as bad as you think, seeing as Capcom is taking time to port it right instead of porting it as fast as they can and trying to get it out not that long after the Gamcecube release. And RE cant survive on Xbox because like someone else said Japan doesn't like the Xbox.

[Parathod]

I just hope all of you with GC's will purchase RE4 for that system and not wait for the PS2 version.

I don't think the problem will be the PS2 version outselling the GC version. I'm pretty sure anyone with both systems will end up with GC one. The real problem is that this gives people even less encouragement to buy a GC and more to buy a PS2.

[safer_sephiroth]

there's no way i'm waitin for the ps2 version. this is my most anticipated game ever!!!

[greendc27]

I just hope all of you with GC's will purchase RE4 for that system and not wait for the PS2 version.

chain saw controller should be enough reason :twisted:

What the hell is a chain saw controller? Does it just look like a chain saw?

[alongx]

I just hope all of you with GC's will purchase RE4 for that system and not wait for the PS2 version.

chain saw controller should be enough reason :twisted:

What the hell is a chain saw controller? Does it just look like a chain saw?

No, it is a chain saw. And to kill zombies you have to revv it up and swing it around wildly, making sure to hit and pets or siblings that are in the room.

[Trakan]

I just hope all of you with GC's will purchase RE4 for that system and not wait for the PS2 version.

chain saw controller should be enough reason :twisted:

What the hell is a chain saw controller? Does it just look like a chain saw?

Well, it's called the chainsaw controller for a reason.

[Green-Bull]

You know what'd be funny? If Capcom couldn't get RE4 to run right on the PS2 without crashing or lots of glitches. Then they cancel the PS2 version about 2 months before the supposed release date. That'd make it all worthwhile. :wink:

[epobirs]

I'm amazed how embittered people are over this. The GC has proven to be a poor platform for third party publishers. Get over it. Nothing is going to change that in its lifetime. As a result, the next Nintendo console will also face an uphill battle to draw support away from Sony. The same can be said for Microsoft's next console, although it will enjoy a stronge starting benefit of the doubt from US developers who've done decent if not great business on Xbox.

It all comes down to numbers. Which machine has a cuter name or a prettier box, none of that matters to a third party publisher. The #1 consideration when choosing which platform to support is installed base. This is so much more important than all other issues that you can also list numbers 2 though 5 as installed base, too. Then you can start thinking about things like the technical requirements of the game, demographics of the possible platforms, etc. Those machines sold make all the difference for the smaller boutiques publishers, such as Atlus, particularly. When you have a title that might only reach 1% at best of the US installed base this is the difference between 300,000 PS2 units and 80,000 GameCube units. The difference between a viable title and a money pit.

The Monkey Ball series is a good example. Sega originally chose to make it a GameCube exclusive. They were newly finding their way as a third party publisher and tried distributing exclusives by the apparent demographic match of the respective platforms. Monkey Ball seemed best suited to Nintendo's youth and family orientaton. This failed to pay off and Sega is now porting a compiled version of the series to the two competing systems. It is almost guaranteed by virtue of sheer numbers that the PS2 version, even at its low price point, will be more profitable in the long term than the GC version that launched with the machine. Sega also has an Xbox version coming. This is more of a risk but the cost for porting an existing title with low technical requirements is low compared to creating a new Xbox title from scratch. A bigger worry is the Xbox's low numbers, which are little better than the GC's. Mitigating this is the much greater uptake of third party titles by Xbox owners.

Demographics are a difficult business. Early on, most publishers wouldn't put a kid oriented game on the Xbox. So Harry Potter and Songbob Squarepants were on the unavoidable PS2 and kid-friendly GameCube. A couple years passed and the sales numbers told a different story. Now the first two Harry Potter titles got Xbox releases long after they'd peaked on the other machines and simultaneously release across all platforms for the latest entry. Spongebob has followed suit and the movie tie-in game will be another all-platform release that might have skipped Xbox just a year earlier.

So the Xbox has managed to deliver sales in spite of its having less than a third of the PS2's numbers but the GC with similar numbers hasn't. Even so, there are a lot of titles that aren't going to get ported to Xbox because it cannot deliver sales in the Japanese market where those titles are strongest. If a Japanese publisher has a project with greater potential in the US and Europe it's the opposite situation but thems the breaks. Those few Xbox owners in Japan will at least be offered an untranslated version that runs within their region.

Why can't Nintendo deliver sales to third parties with an installed base comparable to Xbox? I believe it's demographics again. Regardless of present company, the average Xbox owner is older and more likely to have a significant disposable income compared to the on average much younger GameCube owners who are more dependent on the generousity of adults for expanding their library. This might also inhibit the the sales of more mature titles. not because the GC owners themselves don't want them but because the clueless gift giving relatives are playing it safe and sticking to the big Nintendo franchises.

[CaseyRyback]

I will be shocked if the Sonic collection and SMB comp. packs sell better than they did on the GCN. Most people who wanted the games and had two systems already had the games.

We are talking about two ports of extremely old games, and by the time of release, interest in them is going to be slim to none.

[zewone]

I'm buying both Sonic Collection and SMB Deluxe for the Xbox and I own all three systems. I just prefer buying games for the Xbox since its my favorite system. I'm not sure about RE4. I might actually wait for the PS2 version see how things turn out for it before I decide.

[6669]

I wouldn't be able to wait an extra year for RE4. I still think the graphics will suck much worse on the PS2 version.

[zewone]

I wouldn't be able to wait an extra year for RE4. I still think the graphics will suck much worse on the PS2 version.

Whoa! A year! I will be getting it for GC then. I didn't realize it was gonna be that long. *Didn't read thread at all* :)

[Alpha2]

Just to sate it again, the places where the PS2 will obviously fall behind because it's just the way the system was built

-Lower quality textures
Bla bla bla we know, smaller video ram deal with it.
-Slower loading times
Yeah yeah, big disk, slower drive, tough noogies
-Special lighting effects
PS2 has it's own set of cool effects but they arnt the same as the GC's which Capcom with probably have spent more time on

Oh and of course lets not forget

-Jaggies
OOOH NOOOZ11@!!1! JAGEEES! GEEZ,GET THE FUCK OVER THEM ALREADY. Every system has them in som form or another its not that big a fucking deal anymore.

The point is this is going to sell through to probably 40 to 70% of the people who own the cube which will of course not be enough for capcom so they will make every attempt to make more money by selling it to a larger base on PS2, of course all you multi system owners that were intersted in it will have it already this should be a given as waiting a year for a big game is ridiculous.

Capcom will be hoping that those of you that have a PS2 and a NOT a Cube (gasp! yes they DO exist!) will then pick it up for the PS2.. you know because you dont have it already, and to top it off maybe they;ll throw in a cookie to make you want it alittle more if you;re somehow resistant to the simple fact that it;s now on PS2.

[epobirs]

I will be shocked if the Sonic collection and SMB comp. packs sell better than they did on the GCN. Most people who wanted the games and had two systems already had the games.

We are talking about two ports of extremely old games, and by the time of release, interest in them is going to be slim to none.

The age of the games doesn't matter. In the case of the Sonic Collection most of the games are older than many of the expected players The only thing that matters is whether the games are good.

Consider. If every single GameCube in the world was owned by someone who also owned a PS2 and thus all those PS2 owners had already had ample opportunity to buy the GC version of those games, how little this affects the market potential for the PS2 releases. The GC installed base is only about 20% of that for the PS2. This leaves a market of tens of millions of PS2 owners who may find the games attractive but not enough to merit buying a GameCube. This is especially likely for Sega fans not attracted to the Nintendo franchise that are nearly the sole qualification for the Gamecube's existence. (My own choice of launch title for the GameCube was Super Monkey Ball. Without it I might have skipped the launch and waited for the first big price cut. I wouldn't have missed much.)

A minor hit on PS2 is a bestseller on GC. The market potential for those Sega titles is far from fulfilled so long as they're confined to the GC. The numbers cannot be ignored. The vast majority of video game console owners only buy one system from any generation. They won't 'cross the street' to get an interesting game for another system when there is no shortage of interesting choices where they already are. But if that interesting item comes over to their side, it might do some business.

[smellhasreturned]

Woohoo !

what ?

i hate the gamecube

[Nephets]

Woohoo !

what ?

i hate the gamecube

Hating systems stopped being cool back in 2001.

I don't care that it's being ported to the PS2, I'll be getting the chainsaw controller and RE4 soon after the GCN launch.