View Full Version : CAGcast #209: Calling All Farts!
CheapyD
08-18-2010, 10:49 PM
15060[/IMG-L]Lots to talk about this week, including: Kane & Lynch 2, Mass Effect 2 on PS3, the new PS3 Move bundle, the latest gaming and shopping news, your CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382) and Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/cheapyd) questions and so much more. It's a gas!
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Show Linkage/Notes (click the button below to expand):
Intro: Tuesday Nummy Bar
The Video Game Release List of 8/14 - 8/20 (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/65129)
Hubris, ambition and mismanagement: the first post-mortem of RealTime Worlds (http://www.gamesbrief.com/2010/08/hubris-ambition-and-mismanagement-the-first-post-mortem-of-realtime-worlds/)
Report: 31 Rock Band 3 Tracks Revealed via Video (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/65211)
Sony PlayStation 320GB Move Bundle Arrives in September (http://mashable.com/2010/08/17/ps3-move-bundle/)
Mass Effect 2 out on PS3 January 2011 (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/17/mass-effect-2-out-on-ps3-january-2011/)
Gran Turismo 5 Adds Course Creation, Kart Racing (http://kotaku.com/5615638/gran-turismo-5-adds-course-creation-kart-racing)
Video: Halo Waypoint on Windows Phone 7 (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/17/video-halo-waypoint-on-windows-phone-7/)
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Outro: Tai Loves the Monorail - CheapyD AudioBoo (http://audioboo.fm/CheapyD)
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iKilledChewbacca
08-19-2010, 03:02 AM
WooHoo another awesome CAGcast cant wait till tomorrow to listen :D
killthemall4444
08-19-2010, 03:04 AM
God damn it why do the Cagcasts keep getting shorter!?
Mahoney07
08-19-2010, 03:04 AM
yay
FrankCastleAZ
08-19-2010, 03:06 AM
God damn it why do the Cagcasts keep getting shorter!?
What he said.
I want 8 hour podcasts! (I can settle for 2 hour podcasts)
-FrankCastleAZ
USB Cable
08-19-2010, 03:16 AM
I should not be up this late, I need me some pills or something..... At least I have the CAGcast to keep me company now. :applause: Pretty sure this show is gonna stink though ;)
DarkZion
08-19-2010, 03:59 AM
God damn it why do the Cagcasts keep getting shorter!?
Probably due to the fact that its summer which means very little new releases and slow gaming news. We'll probably get longer CAGcasts in the fall.
Hey Ship, would someone who severely dislikes Michael Cera enjoy Scott Pilgrim vs. The World? The only thing stopping me from seeing it is the fact that I really hate Michael Cera.
And Wombat, stick to humming during the Go Daddy segments. I don't mind the humming in the background, but the toy music was extremely obnoxious.
xlaxparkax
08-19-2010, 04:10 AM
I gotta get rid of them x's on my nickname.
alishaikh199
08-19-2010, 04:36 AM
I'd like that PSP code please. Thanks!
AustinM
08-19-2010, 05:16 AM
Excellent as always, guys. Wombat had some good points this week, although perhaps it balances out with his spontaneous flatulance (some of us eat when we listen, you know! :D ). Also, I think I'd enjoy Ys Seven. I was actually thinking of picking it up, but then decided against it when I bought Silver Star Harmony during the PSN sale (I'm also saving my bones for Valkyria Chronicles 2). It would be so, so sweet if I won that code. ;)
Buuhan1
08-19-2010, 05:28 AM
I await your review of Ys, Shipwreck. I'll be getting a PSP next month for Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep and will be looking for more games to play on the system, hopefully Ys can be one. Great show as always, guys. If you don't take my word for it know it's 4am and I'm staying up longer to listen to the podcast.
USB Cable
08-19-2010, 05:30 AM
Great show as always humans! I now fully understand why you named the show what it is :-&
xlaxparkax
08-19-2010, 05:31 AM
Hey Ship, would someone who severely dislikes Michael Cera enjoy Scott Pilgrim vs. The World? The only thing stopping me from seeing it is the fact that I really hate Michael Cera.
Same here, even though I don't hate him, I just think he plays the same role in every movie he's in. However, now that i know Edgar Wright is involved, I really want to see it.
The PS3 game is pretty good, and the soundtrack is so catchy.
firehawk12
08-19-2010, 05:33 AM
You guys are forgetting about the fact that you need ME1 to import a character into ME2 if you want to play a Paragon character, let alone see some of the characters that may or may not have died in ME1.
It also implies that any choices you make in ME1 won't matter that much (more emails!) in ME3 especially if a large chunk of their audience won't even see that content.
HOVA uk
08-19-2010, 06:04 AM
best outro ever..
KingBroly
08-19-2010, 06:39 AM
Mass Effect 2 on PS3 is awesome. Why? Because Mass Effect 2 is awesome. I haven't played a more consistently good game like that in a long time (but it's still not one of my favorite games ever). One concern I have about it coming to PS3 is not having some of the more major choices from the original in 2, namely characters being alive. By simply giving players a checklist to mark off what they want to play with in 2 would remedy some of those concerns, even though I'm not going to double dip for the PS3 version.
Wombat, whenever Kotaku did NPD posts, they usually did at least 2, maybe more. One for hardware, one for software. I've kind of lost interest in NPD's because the software sales have just become sorta depressing to not see some of everyone's favorite games selling not as good/poorly as you think they should, especially with the bad economy. But at least Dragon Quest IX sold quite a few copies.
Good show
And because I couldn't let this moment be passed up, a song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q44IDYpEeso
shipwreck
08-19-2010, 06:56 AM
Probably due to the fact that its summer which means very little new releases and slow gaming news. We'll probably get longer CAGcasts in the fall.
Hey Ship, would someone who severely dislikes Michael Cera enjoy Scott Pilgrim vs. The World? The only thing stopping me from seeing it is the fact that I really hate Michael Cera.
And Wombat, stick to humming during the Go Daddy segments. I don't mind the humming in the background, but the toy music was extremely obnoxious.
It's difficult for me to say since I actually enjoy Michael Cera outside of Scott Pilgrim as well. It's kind of a similar character to what he's played in the past, so if you really hate Michael Cera, this probably isn't going to change your mind.
Phade
08-19-2010, 08:17 AM
Glad to hear Shipwreck talk a bit about Ys seven, I couldn't find anyone writing a review for it so Im happy Boatcrash will. I know the psp line up doesnt always get a lot of love but Im really looking forward to this one, Its good to hear that its turning out to be fun game.
Love the Show, keep it up
CheapyD
08-19-2010, 09:24 AM
For your listening pleasure, I've isolated the farts:
http://soundcloud.com/cheapyd/farts-from-cagcast-209
collipop
08-19-2010, 09:24 AM
I know you guys don't have interest in buying kinect or move but I think you need to purchase it anyway. As listeners we want to know if something is good, bad or worth buying and I come to the cagcast to hear what you guys think. Even if you buy it then decide its total crap and never play it again Its still useful to hear about it on the cagcast.
MannishBoy
08-19-2010, 09:45 AM
I think there ARE people who will buy Win Phone 7 solely to get achievements. Do you really think there aren't? Have you read the Engadget comments? (http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/hey-go-check-out-our-xbox-live-on-windows-phone-7-gaming-previe/)
I think Win Phone 7 looks pretty cool. That said, I'm buying an Android phone. I'll check back in after WP7 has had a year to mature.
Walt Jay
08-19-2010, 09:49 AM
I agree with Wombat on the Matrix vs. Star Wars question. It's not even close IMO. There's a big difference between disappointing and plain bad.
NegativeZero
08-19-2010, 09:57 AM
FUCK YES! Love that Gummi bears Intro! Keep it up! I'll let you know if I like the cagcast later.
fahq1977
08-19-2010, 09:58 AM
Re: ME2 for PS3
Coming from a gamer who likes to play, but doesn't have the hours or the funds to have all games and all systems, I only have a PS3 (for the blu-ray/gaming combo) prefer the role-playing and best quality games, and want Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2. This is exactly the kind of news I hope to hear more of. Keep fighting the good fight shipwreck!
RobIsLegend
08-19-2010, 10:24 AM
I work in Digital Display Media, so for me, Wombat's discussion of the cost for Gawker vs traffic was actually a nice way to tie my work and personal life together! Though, a CPM is the only way for that set up to work, as CPC or CPA would just come at too high a premium for that cost method to ever fly on a site like that
As for Mass Effect 2, I'm in a bit of a pickle- I have a PS3 and just bought one of the new 360's (250gig) soley for the purpose of playing Mass Effect and Fable. Now that 50% of the reason I bought the thing is out the window, am I pretty much SOL? I dont feel so bad, as I also picked up Gears and Dead Rising and was pleasantly surprised, but the idea that I finally caved and then this news break is a bit of a blow to my gut...and wallet.
I know I'm an extreme case here, but I'd like to believe there are atleast a few others in a similar situation. Now, when ME:3 comes out, do we expect it to be cross platform, or XBox exclusive (for atleast a while)?
And Wombat, I was talking to you about Dragon Age too! Way to cut a brother out! The Dragon Age DLC is a bit hit or miss (though Golem of Armgarrak was hard as hell), but the game itself, aside from some issues like Frame rate and complexity of combat (not due to intricacy but poor design), the game itself is actually very well done. I never beat Fallout 3 but stuck with DA:O to the end, because the story was so well done. It's definitely a labor of love, but worth it.
/end diatribe...and boys, get some bean-o.
Walt Jay
08-19-2010, 10:25 AM
Ship,
I was in the same ship (hur, hur) as you with Fallout 3. I got out of the vault and lost all interest. Then I came back to it months later, and absolutely loved it and all 5 DLCs. Give it another shot!
Oddly enough, the same exact thing happened with Dragon Age. I played it through the intro mission, forgot about the game, then came back to it and played it to death.
ZombieJeebus
08-19-2010, 10:50 AM
Hi Cheapy,
Check out these books for whenever you are going to Hawaii. There is a different book for each island.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=hawaii+blue+book&x=0&y=0&ih=10_4_2_0_0_0_0_0_0_1.102_95&fsc=-1
These books are fantastic, they are written by locals and regularly updated. We buy the latest edition whenever we go.
Try to get a reservation at Duke's on Waikiki Beach for their Sunday brunch.
If you want to do anything "touristy", GET THERE EARLY.
And Oahu is not "The Big Island", that is Kona.
Gummi Bears intro??? BOSS!
Dayam Wombat, you sounded so angry when you were answering my question. Just wanted your opinions. XD
Falion
08-19-2010, 11:43 AM
I think the very first Ys had the same deal where you had to talk to everyone in the town before you were allowed to progress. It's a shame that such contrived pacing devices are still used in some Japanese games, but from what I've been reading, Ys 7 gets pretty darn good after that point. Give me the code! :)
Jinchuriki
08-19-2010, 12:30 PM
Hey CheapyD hit me up for Battlefield Bad Company 2, im on it when im not playing Madden. Hope it doesnt lag when you play with some one across the pond.
PS3 version
MSUHitman
08-19-2010, 12:53 PM
Only at the Realtime Worlds discussion part, but it seems like you talked about the things I posted in the questions thread, thanks!
Now I maybe wrong, but this is how I've understood the Crackdown 2 timeline with Realtime/Ruffian:
Feb. 07- Crackdown comes out
Summer/Fall 07- Crackdown is a huge hit, not just for the Halo 3 beta. Major Nelson and other media talk about the game constantly, sold millions of copies, and Realtime asks Microsoft about making a sequel. MS execs above Major Nelson level think it's just because of the Halo 3 beta and pass.
Fall 07/Summer 08- Realtime needs to make something to keep the doors open so APB is announced are development started.
Fall 08/Spring 09- Microsoft finally decides to have a Crackdown 2 to strenghen their weaking lineup of exclusives. The brass at Realtime, deep in production with APB, say it's too late. A few lower level execs and a group of workers from Realtime, perhaps seeing the writing on the wall, decide to splinter off and form a new company, Ruffian Games, with its first project being Crackdown 2.
Oct. 09 ish- Crackdown 2 development begins.
June/July 2010- APB releases and the game is not super polished at launch and fails for all the reasons already stated, and Crackdown 2 comes out and sells nearly a million units worldwide in less than a month even though most reviews state it's not a very revolutionary sequel.
MSUHitman
08-19-2010, 12:56 PM
Not only did Kotaku do seperate posts for NPD hardware/software, but Totilo also did an analysis post about what the numbers showed.
Jinchuriki
08-19-2010, 01:06 PM
Trust me Mass Effect on PS3 will sell at least one copy, and that's because I'm buying it!
MSUHitman
08-19-2010, 01:28 PM
I'm a light PSP user, but what comes out for it I enjoy. I built up a massive collection via Goozex and some cheap deals from Gamestop. What games I've bought for it I've enjoyed. I got Peace Walker, getting Valkyria Chronicles 2 day 1, pre ordering God of War only because of all the stuff you get for a preorder, and I'll get The 3rd Birthday (aka Parasite Eve 3) when it comes out next year.
Of course I wouldn't mind the Ys code ... :)
the_void
08-19-2010, 01:44 PM
Great show guys. Just wondering if you guys are ever gonna do the show highlights episode that got postponed from episode 201, or is that not gonna happen now?
MSUHitman
08-19-2010, 01:52 PM
The reason I asked is Kotaku is my main video game blog. I'm a star commenter there and I like it's comment system vs. Joystiq (can't take the time to check my email just for my comment to show, sorry) and I can't stand Jim Sterling, who I believe gives games scores of 1-4 just to increase hits and posts on Destructoid to inflate their stats. Yes Sterling is worse than Crecente, I said it. Also Joystiq's comments are swarmed with fanboys, much worse than either Kotaku or Destructoid.
And they've just been silent about it. If you're going to say you're the No. 1 video game blog, how can you ignore the most important game story each and every month? I didn't even know the numbers had come out on Thursday until I saw them on CAG.
Oh and here's some rough site stats for their last NPD number articles-
April hardware- 13k views, 98 comments
April games- 14,700 views, 257 comments
March games- 19,500 views, 444 comments
March systems- 9,570 views, 187 comments
Feb. games- 8,472 views, 168 comments
Feb. systems- 19k views, 578 comments
Jan. systems- 9,650 views, 142 comments
Jan. games- 10,400 views, 197 comments
apathylad
08-19-2010, 02:01 PM
Wombat's farts sound like a duck quacking...which leaves a disturbing image of a Wombaduck in my head.
Anyway, good show guys. It seems that Mass Effect 2 is being brought over to PS3 to encourage interest to the eventual Mass Effect 3 multiplatform launch. Still, it seems a little strange to not bring the first game over. While you don't need prior knowledge to play most game sequels, Mass Effect is a very story driven game. I know that when I was playing through Mass Effect 2 with my imported character, I was looking forward to speaking to my old crew. These appearances probably won't be as meaningful to newcomers.
By the way, I never read the Boat Crash Chronicles, but now I'm glad they were mentioned.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8456/bc0003.jpg
soliddragon
08-19-2010, 02:18 PM
Yeah! Gummi Bears FTW!
Y's Please!!
Curufinwe
08-19-2010, 02:20 PM
If you and Mrs Cheapy were having trouble with the British accents in Shaun of the Dead, why not just turn on subtitles?
I quite liked the second Matrix movie, too.
easper
08-19-2010, 02:24 PM
Good on Wombat for bringing the TV and movie love. White Collar is a fantastic show, and if you like Edgar Wright you need to check out the mid-2000s BBC series Look Around You. It's a pitch-perfect take on late-'70s educational programming, filled with dry narration, made up facts, and absurdist humor. Each episode is less than ten minutes long and it's amazing. Wright didn't exactly work on the show, but he has a recurring part as one of the scientists, and Simon Pegg and Nick Frost both have cameos. Look Around You was co-written by Peter Serafinowicz, aka "Duane" from Spaced (and here's a bit of trivia: he was also the voice of Darth Maul in Episode I).
volt1up
08-19-2010, 02:34 PM
I stopped reading destructoid because of Jim Sterling, he always pulls dumb sh*t like that.
Curufinwe
08-19-2010, 02:39 PM
Sorry to nitpick Shipwreck, but there's no "u" in Lara Croft. :)
shipwreck
08-19-2010, 03:21 PM
Sorry to nitpick Shipwreck, but there's no "u" in Lara Croft. :)
That's just my Ohio accent. I swear I'm saying Lara.
stevew2607
08-19-2010, 03:24 PM
I have already preordered mass effect 2 on amazon I cannot wait! Hey how about that Ys code ;), that game looks awesome on the psp. It will be another classic action rpg that thrive on that platform.
eataburger
08-19-2010, 03:54 PM
Great episode guys! I prefer shorter shows to be honest.
I agree with Wombat about what Kotaku does or doesn't do isn't worthy of discussion on CAG.
Any possibility of an Andriod CAG app?
I agree with Cheapy. The song list for Guitar Hero is awful compared to Rock Band. Adding the keytar really opened up their song list to stuff that wouldn't otherwise work without it (like Werewolves of London!)
Oh... I'd like to be entered into the draw for the code.
Thanks!
xrayzwei
08-19-2010, 04:48 PM
Great show this week, a little short though.
Also putting name in hat for the Y's code. Thx.
volt1up
08-19-2010, 04:50 PM
NPD #s might be too game related for kotaku.
MNC having split screen online just convinced me to buy it, thanks for mentioning it.
iKilledChewbacca
08-19-2010, 04:54 PM
i gotta get rid of them x's on my nickname.
hahahaha xlax !!
CaptainJoel
08-19-2010, 05:39 PM
Great show guys! I got to admit, the thing that grabbed my attention the most was probably the bit about the guy thinking that Kinect would sell an assload of units. That guy has to be crazy! I cannot see people seriously shelling out 150 bucks for it.
Kezmer
08-19-2010, 05:41 PM
I guess I am in the minority, every podcast I listen to seems to not care about Bioshock anymore. I would say it is not a yearly release like Shipwreck referred but it is on more of a 2 an 1/2 year cycle, I am kind of foggy but I think August 2007 and 2 came out February 2010. I am just the type of person that wants a good story in a game, the shooting doesn't have to be perfect for me. There is a Call of Duty every year and I never hear people complain about it, but more Bioshock with story and atmosphere is frowned upon. I just don't get it. This is all just my opinion.
I also never played Mass Effect 1 and only played Mass Effect 2. I did feel a little foggy at first but after the first couple hours I was hooked in enough to call in sick to work to play it. Easily one of the best games I have ever played in my life. I only wish we got a game every year of that quality and I am happy for PS3 owners to play it.
Nero514
08-19-2010, 05:42 PM
Hearing Shipwreck say that the new cole was unique makes me cringe considering he looked like Nathan Drakes douchey cousin but whatever great cagcast also I never played mass effect because my computer sucks im looking forward to playing ME2 when it comes out
RichMeisterMan
08-19-2010, 05:51 PM
I just want to say that the intro music has set my expectations for this show extremely high.
And to touch on Scott Pilgrim. Fucking Awesome movie. The visuals, transitions, and sounds were all incredibly entertaining. This coming from someone that hates Michael Cera; so if your hatred for him is why you aren't seeing it; go ahead and put that behind you temporarily and see this movie.
And Shipwreck! Dude...Hot Fuzz is the shit! You need to make it a priority to see that.
I agree with Cheapy about Hitman! Where the is it?! I played the dog shit out of Blood Money!
During the discussion about changing the main character in a game, you mentioned Dead Space, Wombat, but you didn't mean to. However, After playing it on the PC and catching a glimpse of what Isaac looked like in the very beginning of the game (apparently you aren't supposed to be able to, but it's broke) I hope they do change his appearance. He looked like a total goob.
Shibby2142
08-19-2010, 06:26 PM
More monorail train, less Wombat. ;)
Buuhan1
08-19-2010, 06:30 PM
That's just my Ohio accent. I swear I'm saying Lara.
It's not pronounced Laura?! Well, I'm from Ohio too so I guess that explains it? So it's pronounced Lah-Rah instead of Lor-Rah? I always have had unique pronunciations...
RichMeisterMan
08-19-2010, 06:32 PM
It's not pronounced Laura?! Well, I'm from Ohio too so I guess that explains it? So it's pronounced Lah-Rah instead of Lor-Rah? I always have had unique pronunciations...
I say it, "Lare-uh" :-/
That's just my Ohio accent. I swear I'm saying Lara.
call her Boobs. much easier.
Xeigrich
08-19-2010, 07:23 PM
This is only the 2nd or 3rd CAGcast I've listened to, but I'm loving it so far!
On the topic of Scott Pilgrim, I've read the books (loved them!!) and I'm eagerly awaiting the Xbox Live Arcade version of the game. I'm only a bit hesitant to see the movie because of Michael Cera... The thing is, I like him and I've liked the movies he's been in before, but the Scott Pilgrim character is more or less spastic, self-confident, energetic and just generally outgoing which is pretty much the exact opposite of the characters Michael Cera usually plays. I'm still gonna see it regardless, and I personally think anybody who hates Michael Cera should give the movie a chance... If any movie were to change your opinion of him even temporarily, this should be the one.
Also, I do wish they'd get on with the PSP2 or whatever successor may be in the works. The mediocre "improvements" they've been adding to each new variant have yet to justify upgrading from my old PSP-1000 to a 2000, 3000, or God-forbid a PSP-Go (never!). Personally, with the 3DS on the horizon and the console cycle starting to stretch, I think a well planned PSP2 launch -- with some sort of actual analog/slider and storage/media improvements -- could be closer than we think.
(mono train!!)
Smallville123
08-19-2010, 07:31 PM
Good show gentlemen as always. The only thing about this week was i was surprised you made no mention of the ubisoft store dollar glitch that happened a few days ago. It was pretty nuts, and i was wondering do you think that is just as wrong as people exploiting the mw2 unlocking arcade glitch.
Nayson
08-19-2010, 08:02 PM
I miss "It's Go-Daddy or go fuck yourself." :(
That slogan was awesome.
xlaxparkax
08-19-2010, 08:10 PM
I just came from the theater, and I gotta say, Scott Pilgrim vs The World was amazing. Usually, I hate Michael Cera, but he redeemed himself with this movie. It's a shame it's not doing well in the box office though.
zebwinz
08-19-2010, 08:35 PM
The Star Wars franchise is definitely not as destroyed as the Matrix franchise. Forget the prequel movies, everyone can agree they weren't good but don't forget about the 100's of books, most of which are great and continue the story beyond Return of the Jedi.
Oh, and tell Tai that Chewbacca is sleeping......he had a moon fall on him.
meager
08-19-2010, 08:52 PM
I've played some of the new Kane and Lynch game, and it's crazy glitchy. I didn't have too many gameplay-impairing bugs, but there was a cutscene inside a car where I first hear audio of screeching tires and crashes and then the voice acting that should have accompanied the earlier lip movement came in. Oh, and going on Xbox.com none of the achievements show up for the game.
I actually quite enjoyed Mini Ninjas. It just wasn't ambitious enough and ended up being very vanilla, wasting its potential. I hope for a sequel to expand on it.
The lackluster box office for Scott Pilgrim fits my theory that mainstream audiences just don't really like dorky heroes. They still want Movie Stars as their Movie Stars, not those who fit best friend/sidekick stereotypes. It would also explain the mild reception of Kick-Ass. There are always exceptions, such as Superbad and Zombieland. (Though Movie Stars don't always guarantee results either.)
Z_meista
08-19-2010, 09:05 PM
I prefer Wombat's humming than Sabrina's eerie musical toy. I was actually hoping that Mass Effect 2 will be released for the PS3. I am glad that they are releasing it with all the DLC and an opening that will explain Mass Effect 1.
Energy Penguin
08-19-2010, 09:13 PM
You guys talked a little about next next gen. I think 2013 at the earliest. Especially since irrational games just announced bioshock infinity for 2012. I don't think they (irrational) would release a huge game like that in the midst of a console generation transition. 2012 (if the worlds still here) will be the prime for this generation. I think we will see games that are a generation beyond what we see today. Developers will have these machines completely figured out. No surprise really, look at late ps2 games, they were better than the first xbox 360 games.
Btw, they never should have made sequels to the Matrix, the first movie was brilliant and could have stood on its own without the other two. Star wars was written to be episodic. The other two matrix movies were a cash in, can't really blame them for making them, but they were totally unnecessary.
bickle
08-19-2010, 09:50 PM
As for Mass Effect 2, I'm in a bit of a pickle- I have a PS3 and just bought one of the new 360's (250gig) soley for the purpose of playing Mass Effect and Fable. Now that 50% of the reason I bought the thing is out the window, am I pretty much SOL?
Nah, just enjoy that you can get ME1 and ME2 for cheap and play them both right now. :D
JoeX111
08-19-2010, 10:21 PM
Man, after a truly engaging show with Esteban last week, this one was...pretty lifeless, I gotta say.
However, what I loved was the final section with Tai. Man, that kid is cute. Cheapy, you should consider throwing in a segment each week where you get him to talk about random stuff. Like, show him a video game and see what he says about it. I know he's little, but the answers will probably be hilarious.
Mahoney07
08-19-2010, 10:45 PM
You guys are underestimating how big Windows Phone 7 will be I think.
KniVes311
08-19-2010, 11:11 PM
I don't know if the Y's code was already given away, but I'd like to throw my hat in that ring. I've never played an Y's game, but have always been interested. Also, I DO have a PSP Go......(regrettably).
killthemall4444
08-19-2010, 11:11 PM
Ugh Jim Sterling is awful. I can't believe Wombat actually defended his bullshit review of Kane & Lynch 2.
I mean the game isn't anything great but it's a competant solid third person shooter with a terrific sense of visual style and a top notch presentation...for most of the game anyway. In any case Dog Days is massive improvement over the first game in almost every area. At worst Dog Days doesn't offer up as many cool varying setpieces as the first game did. But Cheapy is correct...more Hitman please.
banodyne
08-19-2010, 11:12 PM
Cheapy, your wish that Xbox Live games would show up on iPhone is silly. That's like the kids who say Mario games should be on PS3. It's an exclusive advantage that Microsoft is keeping to itself as a selling point for their system. They also wouldn't trust a another platform that they don't control because they try to stop gamerscore cheating.
Can Windows Phone 7 become a hit? Just a couple of years ago Android was an obscure joke. Today it outsells the iPhone. Things change very quickly in the mobile space.
banodyne
08-19-2010, 11:18 PM
I stopped reading destructoid because of Jim Sterling, he always pulls dumb sh*t like that.Agreed. Don't you hate when sites have that one guy that kind of ruins the rest of the site? Stephen Johnson on G4's The Feed blog does that for me too.
Khalid
08-20-2010, 12:14 AM
You guys are underestimating how big Windows Phone 7 will be I think.
I agree, a bunch of people seems to be interested. I would love to get some achievements while I am going somewhere.
Josh5890
08-20-2010, 01:06 AM
Hey guys. Great CAG Cast!
I think you guys are too quick to drop the PSP. Yea the support early on is last year but look at this year. We have had MGS: Peace Walker, Hexyz Force, Lunar Silver Star Harmony, Ys 7, Persona 3 Portable, and Disgaea: Infinite be released this year. Don't forget that we still have God of War: Ghost of Sparta, Valkyria Chronicles 2, another Ys game, Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep, Phantasy Star Portable 2, and Patapon 3. Definately enough games to keep the PSP going. Considering that the PSP has survived over 5 years now in a handheld market always dominated by Nintendo, that has to count for something.
However I agree that Sony holding off showing a new PSP doesn't help at all. The constent rumors about a PSP/Android phone, the PSP 2, and other talks about touch screens on the back of it certainly can't be helping their sales. Consumers don't want speculation and rumors. They want to know how long a device they may purchase will be supported.
P.S Hey Shipwreck, about that Ys 7 code......;)
FriskyTanuki
08-20-2010, 01:09 AM
I don't think Realtime Worlds balked at the idea of making Crackdown 2 but Microsoft declined the idea that there should be a sequel, so they went to make ABP.
Jim Sterling's the kind of guy that loves to stir up shit anyway he can. He even messes with the guy that runs Game Journalists Are Incompetent Fuckwads all the time, almost like he gets off on the negative attention. I don't get how 1/10 is supposed to get the message across to not buy it any more than the text is supposed to do that. Unless he thinks his readers are too dumb to understand what the text says, the score doesn't need to be anything other than a reflection of the rest of the review. It sounds more like a 4 or 5 because of the lack of content, the glitches, and that it seems like a great rental.
Polyphony's PR campaign for GT5 is weird. They've supposedly been nearly done for a year or so and are just now confirming things like A-Spec and B-Spec modes for single-player, course creation, that you can buy parts for your car to tune it, and the kart mode when it's out in less than three months. There have been plenty of lists of rumored features and people are freaking out over the extremely vague descriptions of what premium versus basic cars are and what they will have and nobody at PD or Sony bothers to respond to that stuff. You just have to hope that they remember to clarify before launch and not many devs could get away with that kind of stuff.
Kotaku not posting about the NPDs is probably the most shocking thing I've ever heard. They will post anything for the hits and the most bullshit articles on the site get a ton of hits, like how Brian Ashcraft writes a lot about half-naked women and weird things in Japan that didn't really deserve an article since he's on when nobody else is around to stop him.
Good show.
Gamer SDP
08-20-2010, 01:16 AM
listened to 3 cagcasts this week (since I was away for the last 2). once again I don't really know what's being talked about at times but who cares, it helps time pass!
Buuhan1
08-20-2010, 01:58 AM
I didn't want to ask to be considered for the Ys code, but I'm gonna need stuff to play on my new PSP, so it'd definitely be nice if I was chosen.
x caponed x
08-20-2010, 02:01 AM
Free Bird Pro Mode - My goal in life. I'm totally getting laid.
BeauNER
08-20-2010, 05:32 AM
Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World was a great movie. I'm curious to hear what Wombat has to say about the movie.
RichMeisterMan
08-20-2010, 05:39 AM
I thought the vegan dude was best one. I LOLed when he mentioned losing VEGANedge. Like wtf? lmao!
Blackout
08-20-2010, 05:41 AM
Good show guys.
People can stop hating on Bioshock 2 already. It was still a good game. Yeah, it didn't change the world. So what? Not every game needs to. It had to follow Bioshock 1. I don't think any game could have filled those shoes.
Sterling is an attention whore. He thinks he gets criticized for having "different" ideas, not the fact the content he writes is dumb. He posts ridiculous review scores and articles for attention. A 1/10 implies that the game is completely broken and unplayable, like you can't get past the first stage because a giant bug prevents you from passing it. You don't give a game a 1/10 just because you didn't like it. Maybe I just have a different idea of how a review should work. It's sad that their scores get lumped in together on Metacritic.
I know for a few games he didn't even bother finishing them. He's not even controversial or funny at this point. His gimmick is old. Destructoid sucks. It doesn't matter though, because at the end of the day they're still getting page views so nothing will ever change.
I don't think anyone is mad that Mass Effect 1 isn't coming to the PS3 because they don't know the story. That's silly. They could fill that in with a five minute cutscene. People care because they want the save file import feature, bringing over their character and decisions from the first game. That's one of Mass Effect's coolest features. I can't think of any other game that does this. Having a character you started in Mass Effect 1 and playing as him or her all the way through #3 makes you feel more involved in the game and story.
StriderNo9
08-20-2010, 08:39 AM
Good shows guys, I would just recommend you lay off Kotaku for a bit, Cheapy is starting to sound like a jealous exgirlfriend, and for no reason they don't compete with them in any way so why both, he seriously mentions them in every podcast, Wombat has the right attitude here.
One more thing, Xbox Live on Windows Phone 7 is a good idea, gamerpoints you earn go to your Gamertag, whether that is on the console or PC. Microsoft isn't trying to make money per say, they have enough of that, they are trying to push the Xbox Live brand. They think if someone buys a phone, and buys some games they are more likely to get the console in the future if they had the choice.
In this case branding is more important than upfront money making. I for one am totally buying a Windows Phone 7.
StriderNo9
08-20-2010, 08:44 AM
Cheapy, your wish that Xbox Live games would show up on iPhone is silly. That's like the kids who say Mario games should be on PS3. It's an exclusive advantage that Microsoft is keeping to itself as a selling point for their system. They also wouldn't trust a another platform that they don't control because they try to stop gamerscore cheating.
Can Windows Phone 7 become a hit? Just a couple of years ago Android was an obscure joke. Today it outsells the iPhone. Things change very quickly in the mobile space.
Exactly.
AleetPanda
08-20-2010, 08:49 AM
Love the outro. I remember that age.
Tengaport
08-20-2010, 09:21 AM
Still making my way through the show now but I had to comment on your non-news item regarding Kotaku not reporting on NPD numbers.
While I don't care for Kotaku, I do have to give them the thumbs up on this decision (unless they did just forget like Cheapy said). I could not care less about the NPD numbers, and actually loathe the fact that Cheapy has such a hard-on for them on the CAGCAST. I don't get the point of any site reporting NPDs aside from baiting fanboys. And way to go Wombat for extending the pointless conversation even further...
I do have a question though - As far as the PSP goes, why is it that the system is so maligned as opposed to being an underdog? Is it the hardware itself (aside from the PSPgo) or is it Sony's extreme mismanagement of the platform? As a fan of the PSP I find their new 'Marcus' marketing campaign to be little more than just another nail in the PSP's coffin, especially now that they are going after iPhone gaming (Good luck there Sony).
What could Sony possibly do with a PSP2 (marketing & hardware wise) that would turn things around?
rodreading
08-20-2010, 10:52 AM
Hey. I actually tried to post this in the forum archives for CAGCast #208 - however I am a CAG forum NOOB and no avail. So i'm posting it here because I thought it was interesting.
If Shipwreck was "So upset" about certain blog listing tips about how to get free DLC. What's up with this thread!?
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111265
shipwreck
08-20-2010, 11:35 AM
Hey. I actually tried to post this in the forum archives for CAGCast #208 - however I am a CAG forum NOOB and no avail. So i'm posting it here because I thought it was interesting.
If Shipwreck was "So upset" about certain blog listing tips about how to get free DLC. What's up with this thread!?
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111265
What's up with that thread is understand Xbox Live's DRM and EULA. It's using content in an agreed about manner for licenses that have been purchased.
Macstorm
08-20-2010, 12:00 PM
I think the very first Ys had the same deal where you had to talk to everyone in the town before you were allowed to progress. It's a shame that such contrived pacing devices are still used in some Japanese games, but from what I've been reading, Ys 7 gets pretty darn good after that point. Give me the code! :)
Was just listening to the Ys talk on the podcast and having played that part I can say that while the first town part is confusing, you don't have to talk to everyone to progress. You just have to walk into the main square and talk with the blue-haired girl, then leave the square, and return.
rodreading
08-20-2010, 12:30 PM
What's up with that thread is understand Xbox Live's DRM and EULA. It's using content in an agreed about manner for licenses that have been purchased.
So your saying that rather than my friend BUYING limbo (for example). I should just go and download it on his xbox under MY profile so he does not have to buy the game? In return I can just go back to my xbox and use my profile to re-download the game.
Does this support the developers of the game? It's obvious and common sense that this is not something Microsoft or the developer/publisher would want.
For someone so upset about another site posting up malicious ways of getting free content, I would think that you would not be referring to gray areas in the XBL Eula. We use common sense to understand that it was not the developers intent for Gamer A to buy a game - Install the game on Gamer B's console - so the Gamer B, does not have to buy the game. Which is the whole reason why all games have activation codes now.
I'm not trying to be a big pain in the ass. But once a person starts having to quote passages from a EULA in order to justify his/her actions. It's pretty well known that one is reaching for some kind of gray area in which to craft a way around something with a technicality. Especially a person that implies that he/she is sensitive to the developers financial need for selling the game.
figcoinc
08-20-2010, 12:50 PM
The ending with Tai was ultra cute. He is growing up so fast.
banodyne
08-20-2010, 12:54 PM
Trying to find a good home for up-to-the-minute video game news. Kotaku is too sleazy. Put off by Joystiq's recent lapse in morals. Love Giant Bomb but they don't update news nearly enough. Tried Destructoid again after hearing Cheapy's story but Jim Sterling reminded why I left, namely Jim Sterling himself, as the CAGcast discussed this week. On a recommendation I'm trying GamesRadar (http://www.gamesradar.com/pc-ps2-ps3-xbox-xbox-360-gamecube-wii-psp-ds/news). So far, so good. The snark of Kotaku without the bullshit padded amount of stories. Any recommendations?
shipwreck
08-20-2010, 12:58 PM
I'm not reaching for anything. It's the licensed agreement for the content. It's tied to the original console it's bought on and to the Gamertag that buys it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with paying for the license and using what you paid for.
rodreading
08-20-2010, 01:08 PM
I'm not reaching for anything. It's the licensed agreement for the content. It's tied to the original console it's bought on and to the Gamertag that buys it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with paying for the license and using what you paid for.
Exactly using what YOU paid for. Not your friend using what YOU paid for. Again, do you think that a game company would want this?
shipwreck
08-20-2010, 01:17 PM
Yes, the game companies want you to buy the license for their games. They agreed to that EULA. You seem to be the one that doesn't agree with the EULA. I paid for one license to play with my Gamertag anywhere and one license to be tied to the console it was downloaded on. I didn't buy a game or content. I bought a license that allows that content to be accessed in 2 specific ways.
hufferstl
08-20-2010, 01:38 PM
Wombat,
I don't think Luke is a jedi until the last 10 minutes of Jedi. You must confront Vader, says Yoda...
Also(to fully reveal the level of nerd that I am), The title 'Return of the Jedi' doesn't make reference to Luke, it is about the return of Anakin to the light side.
Love the show guys, keep it up.
edit: count me out for the contest, BTW
Wombat
08-20-2010, 01:45 PM
Wombat,
I don't think Luke is a jedi until the last 10 minutes of Jedi. You must confront Vader, says Yoda...
Also(to fully reveal the level of nerd that I am), The title 'Return of the Jedi' doesn't make reference to Luke, it is about the return of Anakin to the light side.
Love the show guys, keep it up.
edit: count me out for the contest, BTW
you are correct, but building a lightsaber is necessary step in becoming a Jedi.
FriskyTanuki
08-20-2010, 01:56 PM
What's the metric for successful MMOs? More subscribers than World of Warcraft? There are a bunch that have gotten enough subscribers to be profitable enough to support for a long time (Everquest, Everquest 2, Everquest Online Adventures, Final Fantasy XI) that I'd consider a success.
shipwreck
08-20-2010, 02:10 PM
We know nothing about MMOs. Wombat and I played the free trial of WoW and I played the free trial of Final Fantasy XI. If we ever say anything about MMOs, assume that we have no clue what we are talking about.
StriderNo9
08-20-2010, 02:17 PM
I find it funny shipwreck criticized Jeff of Giant Bomb for his taste in games yet they STILL seem to agree on all the same games. LOL.
DougCL
08-20-2010, 03:30 PM
someone recommended me Ys Seven, so i would love to win that code.
great show so far, guys. im still listening to it as i type this.
FriskyTanuki
08-20-2010, 03:42 PM
Trying to find a good home for up-to-the-minute video game news. Kotaku is too sleazy. Put off by Joystiq's recent lapse in morals. Love Giant Bomb but they don't update news nearly enough. Tried Destructoid again after hearing Cheapy's story but Jim Sterling reminded why I left, namely Jim Sterling himself, as the CAGcast discussed this week. On a recommendation I'm trying GamesRadar (http://www.gamesradar.com/pc-ps2-ps3-xbox-xbox-360-gamecube-wii-psp-ds/news). So far, so good. The snark of Kotaku without the bullshit padded amount of stories. Any recommendations?
As long as you don't mind a ton of dumb lists and other reoccurring stories, they may be fine.
We know nothing about MMOs. Wombat and I played the free trial of WoW and I played the free trial of Final Fantasy XI. If we ever say anything about MMOs, assume that we have no clue what we are talking about.
I get that. It just seemed weird that you guys dove into a topic that required some knowledge despite knowing that you had none. That's why you guys don't cover PC games unless you're actually playing something.
shipwreck
08-20-2010, 04:43 PM
I get that. It just seemed weird that you guys dove into a topic that required some knowledge despite knowing that you had none. That's why you guys don't cover PC games unless you're actually playing something.
Yeah, I don't think we really wanted to get into to much, but we've talked about APB and seen it a lot in the past so it was kind of hard to not at least touch on MMOs when talking about the troubles of Realtime Worlds.
Gold_guardian
08-20-2010, 05:00 PM
I'm a Long time listener but this is my first time commenting.
Mass effect 2 seems a bit pointless with out 1. If nothing else but because you make major choices that effect the outcome of the storyline though out the entire trilogy. With out being able to pick those choices you're pretty much stuck with the Default.
You could tell Tai that Chewbaka is in Texas. That's where his actor Peter Mayhew lives.
Thanks for giving me something to listen too on the bus to work! Crossing my fingers for the ys code xd
WILTRON
08-20-2010, 05:20 PM
Thank you for not talking about Starcraft for hours, CAGcasters.
Also, I think you're informed enough about MMOs to cast judgement on APB. Even from the outside it looks like a complete failure and like you, I think if they would have published it as a multi-player console game on XBL or PSN they would of, at minimum, broke even and learned a thing or two to encourage success for the sequel.
Kezmer
08-20-2010, 05:42 PM
What's the metric for successful MMOs? More subscribers than World of Warcraft? There are a bunch that have gotten enough subscribers to be profitable enough to support for a long time (Everquest, Everquest 2, Everquest Online Adventures, Final Fantasy XI) that I'd consider a success.
Everquest 2 recently launched a free version with less features also. you can pay for more races character slots. I have been trying to log in but it seems not running great yet
SoxFan13
08-20-2010, 07:08 PM
Good show guys. I thought the point Wombat made about Scott Pilgrim not doing well was pretty poignant. I think he was just joking when he said "I've got a kid," but that explains a lot about the disappointing numbers for the Scott Pilgrim movie. The audience that movie plays most to is full of people Wombat's age-- old enough to have a love and connection to the 8-bit video game references in the movie, AND old enough to have kids that require them to stay home way more often.
I have two young daughters, and I've only seen one movie this year, Inception. I know that, at best, I'll see 2-3 movies in the theater this year, and Scott Pilgrim isn't going to beat out Inception, for me, anyway!
dothatthing
08-20-2010, 08:05 PM
Great show. I agree that the MMO world is oversaturated, and can be risky business. Dungeons & Dragons Online was unsuccessful with their initial release, but they managed to increase poplularity, and turn a hefty profit once they changed to a free-to-play business model. Pretty interesting that they didn't start making money until they went free-to-play. Just a fun fact for you guys. Also, I love classic RPGs, so if you still have that Y's code, I would be more than happy to recieve it. Thanks!
inwardsinging101
08-20-2010, 08:25 PM
Hey guys, love the show. But i think you all are severely underestimating how powerful this Xbox live windows mobile 7 endeavor is for microsoft. The largest driving factor nowadays in the smartphone market is the gaming. Both apple and google realize this and have been diving headfirst into trying to make their phones better gaming platforms (I.E apple's gyroscope and future gaming hub as well as android's immensely growing free and paid game market). With many of the game developers of xbox live games already signing up as well as getting free demo phones and incentives, this could really jump start the platform into being a true iphone and android competitor. As a current iphone 4 owner i am excited to see how this all plays out.
again, love the show. Keep on with yo gangsta selves.
RichMeisterMan
08-20-2010, 09:34 PM
Hey guys, love the show. But i think you all are severely underestimating how powerful this Xbox live windows mobile 7 endeavor is for microsoft. The largest driving factor nowadays in the smartphone market is the gaming. Both apple and google realize this and have been diving headfirst into trying to make their phones better gaming platforms (I.E apple's gyroscope and future gaming hub as well as android's immensely growing free and paid game market). With many of the game developers of xbox live games already signing up as well as getting free demo phones and incentives, this could really jump start the platform into being a true iphone and android competitor. As a current iphone 4 owner i am excited to see how this all plays out.
again, love the show. Keep on with yo gangsta selves.
Windows mobile is absolute garbage. It needs to streamline and drop half of its features in an effort to increase its functionality. My friend has an HTC imagio with windows mobile and it sucks total ass. I feel sorry for anyone that gets roped into getting a phone with windows mobile on it because of the Xbox live functionality it will have.
It's intriguing and it looks nice, but I'll go ahead and holdout for the xboxlive iPhone app. I of course will not be holding my breath.
Curufinwe
08-20-2010, 09:42 PM
Windows Phone 7 may be a big improvement, we don't know yet.
ChernobylCow
08-21-2010, 12:00 AM
Wombat, I think your theory on why Kotaku isn't posting the NPDs was perfectly fine. Cheapy was actually the one interested in the story and you actually participated and he shot you down! How rude. Cheapy had nothing to contribute except just reading an e-mail that went nowhere. Sloppy hosting.
Otherwise great show!
SINNED
08-21-2010, 01:07 AM
I love your show guys, but please stop trying to pronounce "Shmup", its like trying to pronounce "wtf" or "omg". It just sounds wrong.
SINNED
08-21-2010, 01:17 AM
Wombat, I think your theory on why Kotaku isn't posting the NPDs was perfectly fine. Cheapy was actually the one interested in the story and you actually participated and he shot you down! How rude. Cheapy had nothing to contribute except just reading an e-mail that went nowhere. Sloppy hosting.
Otherwise great show!
That wasnt a good theory at all. Kotaku posts Japans hardware/software sales every single week. Like we give a crap which dating sim or idolmaster game sold the most. Why would they spend time giving us Japans sales and not the US? NPD's numbers come out every month. Is it really that hard to post them considering they give us sales from another country? They already have a Kotaku Japan website.
Microshock
08-21-2010, 01:53 AM
Wombat, I think your theory on why Kotaku isn't posting the NPDs was perfectly fine. Cheapy was actually the one interested in the story and you actually participated and he shot you down! How rude. Cheapy had nothing to contribute except just reading an e-mail that went nowhere. Sloppy hosting.
Otherwise great show!
Yeah it was a horrible theory considering they post notes to each other on Kotaku and images of celebrities with any reference of a game near them.
Decent show but getting tired of Wombat's little speeches and theories. He makes this voice that's just kinda insulting like he's trying to explain it to a baby. And his voice rises up and down while doing it. Plus, I'm super sure he makes counter-arguments just so he has 30 seconds more airtime than anyone else and to be different.
Good thing Shipwreck and CheapyD called him out on that "theory". IPlus, Wombat didn't cry about being double teamed this time. And yeah Jim Sterling is a fat twat.
I mean he wears a dinner jacket and stupid sunglasses indoors during his "Jimquisition videos". And he pants into the mic while talking because thats how fat he is.
Don't take anything wrong here Wombat!
killthemall4444
08-21-2010, 04:00 AM
He makes this voice that's just kinda insulting like he's trying to explain it to a baby. And his voice rises up and down while doing it
Yeah this is true unfortunately.
Davestation
08-21-2010, 07:19 AM
Have you guys not figured out Microsoft's software strategy this generation? All they do is pay for limited exclusitivity. The only new IP that they have this generation (that was decent) that they actually own is Crackdown. Everything that they say is "Exclusive" is really not. There first party games are pretty much all shit, and the few that are not shit they are just milking the shit out of. I enjoyed last generation when they had a more competitive side in first party games. Sure they sucked ass, but I just feel that my 360 is an exclusitivity machine and that when a title does come out on another platform (PS3) they seem to add more features to to the game.
Also, what is Cheapy teaching his son? We all know that fire trucks are cooler than Mono-rails......
RichMeisterMan
08-21-2010, 08:03 AM
Have you guys not figured out Microsoft's software strategy this generation? All they do is pay for limited exclusitivity. The only new IP that they have this generation (that was decent) that they actually own is Crackdown. Everything that they say is "Exclusive" is really not. There first party games are pretty much all shit, and the few that are not shit they are just milking the shit out of. I enjoyed last generation when they had a more competitive side in first party games. Sure they sucked ass, but I just feel that my 360 is an exclusitivity machine and that when a title does come out on another platform (PS3) they seem to add more features to to the game.
Also, what is Cheapy teaching his son? We all know that fire trucks are cooler than Mono-rails......
On a game with no multiplayer element there's no real reason for permanent exclusivity. Everyone that REALLY wanted to play ME2 has it. M$ isn't losing out on any sales by this game moving to the PS3 this late in the game.
Yeah, I don't think we really wanted to get into to much, but we've talked about APB and seen it a lot in the past so it was kind of hard to not at least touch on MMOs when talking about the troubles of Realtime Worlds.
Speculation is fun. Man, APB turned out to be such a mess.
inwardsinging101
08-21-2010, 02:08 PM
Windows mobile is absolute garbage. It needs to streamline and drop half of its features in an effort to increase its functionality. My friend has an HTC imagio with windows mobile and it sucks total ass. I feel sorry for anyone that gets roped into getting a phone with windows mobile on it because of the Xbox live functionality it will have.
It's intriguing and it looks nice, but I'll go ahead and holdout for the xboxlive iPhone app. I of course will not be holding my breath.
yes, the current windows mobile platform is pretty mediocre. But microsoft has build windows mobile 7 from the ground up, throwing out the entire past mobile platform. So your friends imagio is nowhere near what microsoft wants to release with the new platform. This isnt just windows mobile +xbox live, its an entire new operating system they have developed with xbox live and mobile office as supporting factors.
RichMeisterMan
08-21-2010, 04:08 PM
yes, the current windows mobile platform is pretty mediocre. But microsoft has build windows mobile 7 from the ground up, throwing out the entire past mobile platform. So your friends imagio is nowhere near what microsoft wants to release with the new platform. This isnt just windows mobile +xbox live, its an entire new operating system they have developed with xbox live and mobile office as supporting factors.
I'm gonna be skeptical until I see it in action and here my peers' opinion of it. Until then though all I have is a track record, and it's not a good one. The fact that they have built something from the ground up just tells me I should check it out when it comes out; not that it means it's going to be a booming success.
D_W01
08-21-2010, 11:58 PM
Is it Just me, or does wombat sound like he is a bit of an ass at times.
Microshock
08-22-2010, 01:04 AM
Is it Just me, or does wombat sound like he is a bit of an ass at times.
Oh no, he does for sure. Especially on his little lectures and theories, that's when he sounds most like an ass. Mostly cause of the tone and also because he always seems to do it just to have a different view point.
Still a cool guy though, nice person. Wombat, please stop picking the comments from the last weeks show on the CAGcast, it makes it very one sided.
reddjoey
08-22-2010, 01:59 AM
Don't you have to pay to get NPD numbers? Maybe Kotaku decided that it wasn't worth the cash.
SINNED
08-22-2010, 06:51 AM
Don't you have to pay to get NPD numbers? Maybe Kotaku decided that it wasn't worth the cash.
All they have to do is post some story about a upskirt videogame from Japan and watch the cash roll in. I dont think theyre struggling.
itachiitachi
08-22-2010, 09:38 AM
I'm going to have to disagree with Wombat on the matrix being more derailed by the movies than star-wars.
How successful something or culturally relevant something is, is not a good measure if something has been derailed or not, many things stay the course and loose popularity very quickly. Starwars had been popular for almost 30 years when the new movies came out, even with some really bad movies it's hard to kill 30 years of momentum. If on the other hand the crap trilogy had come out 2 years after the good trilogy, then they probably would have killed starwars. Also the new starwars movies switched their target from starwars fans to kids(one of the most profitable groups) while the new matrix films target the same audience, just unsuccessfully.
RichMeisterMan
08-22-2010, 03:36 PM
I'm going to have to disagree with Wombat on the matrix being more derailed by the movies than star-wars.
How successful something or culturally relevant something is, is not a good measure if something has been derailed or not, many things stay the course and loose popularity very quickly. Starwars had been popular for almost 30 years when the new movies came out, even with some really bad movies it's hard to kill 30 years of momentum. If on the other hand the crap trilogy had come out 2 years after the good trilogy, then they probably would have killed starwars. Also the new starwars movies switched their target from starwars fans to kids(one of the most profitable groups) while the new matrix films target the same audience, just unsuccessfully.
So what you are saying is; Wombat's right. Gotch'ya!
pablo_vllj
08-23-2010, 10:14 AM
I loled at the monorail part, also I don't see any problem with Wombat's voice, he have always sounded like a nice guy IMO
Droenixjpn
08-23-2010, 12:20 PM
I think the next generation of consoles will begin next year, at least maybe Nintendo's console. Then, maybe in 2012 we'll see Sony's and Microsoft's next consoles. That seems to be the cycle, because Sony came out with PS2 in 2000, then Microsoft and Nintendo came out with their consoles in 2001. Then Microsoft in 2005, then Sony and Nintendo in 2006. Nintendo's 3DS is coming out soon, it would make sense for Nintendo to show some info of their home console sooner or later.
wayno187
08-23-2010, 12:26 PM
Can anyone recommend a good RPG for the psp? Preferably not a JRPG.
jaystaeb8
08-23-2010, 12:56 PM
Normally I don't post just to win a contest because I like to have more to contribute however I love the Ys series and I would love to win the game. I have played the previous releases and still go back to Ys III when i am looking for some old school fun. The DS rerelease of Ys I&II were great and the VC is worth picking it up.
I will add that if you are going to Hawaii and staying in Honolulu you should obviously go to Pearl Harbor and take the boat out to the Arizona Memorial. Also go to the Dole pineapple factory. It is worth the time and energy to climb Diamond Head. The waves and watching the surfing at North Shore is also worth a visit.
FriskyTanuki
08-23-2010, 01:40 PM
Don't you have to pay to get NPD numbers? Maybe Kotaku decided that it wasn't worth the cash.
I don't think the news sites pay for the numbers, as the NPD just sends out a press release with the top games and sales numbers every month, which they've restricted down to ten with sales for the top five. Besides, they could easily get the information from another site and write up their own story with it if it was because of the cost.
Evilsean
08-24-2010, 12:14 PM
Great show again. I got kinda bored when you talked about some of the new games but that's because I have no interest in them. I loved Scott Pilgrim as well, I think Michael Cera did a good job of not acting like Michael Cera but instead acting like Scott Pilgrim.
As for MMOs I know you guys have no interest or knowledge. I play World of Warcraft religiously. In the MMO world the Holy Grail of development is to make a 'Warcraft Killer', a game so good it take players away from WoW and takes the top spot. It was supposed to be Lord of the Rings, then Age of Conan, then Warhammer, then Star Trek, but many believe the only thing that can topple WoW is Blizzard's next MMO. I think APB was the perfect chance to make an MMO on consoles and make it free by having in game advertising. Where a billboard for Coca Cola wouldn't work in a fantasy game, it would work great in a city setting.
1modernboy
08-24-2010, 06:20 PM
Great show again, fellows. Now hit me with that Ys code, Boatwreck! :D