CAGcast #230: Space Michael and Friends

[CheapyD]

15060[/IMG-L]The friends of Space Michael discuss the Dragon Age 2 Demo, Marvel vs. Capcom 3, the latest game shopping and industry news, your CAGbag (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71382) and Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/cheapyd) questions and so much more!

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Intro - Girls Just Wanna Have Fun - DJ Sujinho & Cassiano - Exclusivas Da Nossa

Dead Island reception thrills Deep Silver (http://feedproxy.google.com/%7Er/mcvuk/oXMK/%7E3/O4i8lcF5opE/Dead-Island-reception-thrills-Deep-Silver)

January 2011 NPD (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=422071)

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Outro: Fish!

[Gentlegamer]

Listening while I wait for King's Quest III Redux to finish downloading. . .

[Ltor]

Wonder what the boys from hazard county have to say this week...

[Gentlegamer]

Cheapy is tired.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pmpgrYQgs

[Necrozilla]

What does one consume during an episode of the CAGcast?

[repete]

good show guys

[Fjordson]

Maybe I'm crazy, but I enjoy your current formula a lot. It's definitely one of the most entertaining podcasts I listen to (and I listen to a lot of them on a regular basis). A new episode of the CAGcast never fails to make my week better.

Your work with the show is greatly appreciated in my household (the wife is a big fan as well) so, thanks!

[ShockandAww]

Hi thanks for reading my comment from last week about getting more listeners.

The two statements I made weren't really contradicting though I dont think:

1. Have someone on your show with different taste in games
2. Dont talk about games nobody cares about

An admittedly not very great example would be Little Big Planet 2...none of you played it because it's not your thing but there's a lot of people that would rather hear about a big game like that than something like that dumb ass dreamcast collection that was reviewed.

[RichMeisterMan]

You guys nailed it on the fighting games and learning how to play them. Nice to see I'm not the only one that can't string together ridiculous combos with little to no hints.

[Kaneco]

I'm going to ask again...

What is the CAG #228 podcast's intro song's name? xD

I've been waiting for someone to answer this question for about two weeks now.

[thorbahn3]

Where's the link for the sales data on making your game on sale on steam, and itunes?

[DarkZion]

I'm going to ask again...

What is the CAG #228 podcast's intro song's name? xD

I've been waiting for someone to answer this question for about two weeks now.
Based on the show notes from that cast, it's John Parr vs Tommyknockers - Man in Motion

[granom]

Dudes, you guys are back in the game. Nice show.

I don't post here much (like, EVER) but I have been listening since show #8!! I am the CAG you mentioned who worked with Larry Kenney (the voice of Lion-O). I thought the CAGs would be interested to know that not only is Mr. Kenney ALIVE but he is also providing the voice of Lion-O's dad in the new Thundercats show.

Again, very nice podcast this week, guys. Don't listen to the haters. I LOL'd at Cheapy's "Nazi Germany in Toy Story 3" comment. Keep the dream alive.

[Treythalomew]

I agree about how stupid xbla prices are. It is a real shame that they don't just allow demand prices to take over. There are plenty of games that I'd buy for even 5 dollars but it is still 10 or 15 dollars. I usually stick to buying games that are the DoTW that I'd enjoy.

XBLA really looks dumb when I take my ipad out and purchase all kinds of awesome games for a dollar.

Also I think the show is great. One of the few podcasts that I usually listen to on a regular basis.

[Darknyss]

As a new iPhone owner, I really look forward to the iOS segment now.

Inspector Gadget is a good game, especially since it doesn't cost anything. I was also surprised when I saw you could download full episodes (although the quality isn't that great).

I've also been playing the shit out of Coin Dozer. As Shipwreck said on the last show, it keeps you coming back every day just to use your coins and level up.

Also another game that's getting a lot of internet love lately is Tiny Wings. It's only 99 cents and a simple but well done game. I definitely recommend checking it out.

Finally, if you have a chance to pick up Street Fighter IV on sale... do it! The controls are simplified for iOS and the game is a thing of beauty on the iPhone 4.

Good show btw.

[McBeesj]

I listen to 3 1up podcasts
OXM
IGN Gamescoop
Major Nelson
Weekend Confirmed
Feedback
and CAGCast is the best, I think everything is taste, maybe it is because you guys are older like me but I love the comedy and attitude, do not change anything or I will be pissed. I think it would be great if you got a designer or developer on the show but did not change the show show asked him random questions but do not sacrifice jokes.

gamertag mcbeesj

[McBeesj]

I am with you on super meat boy Shipwreck, but I did not play Limbo, new chapter updates!

[McBeesj]

I gaming site I go to most is the one with the most up to date news and the most news G4 and then I go to 1up a lot because of the leveling system and I listen to all of their podcasts and want to support them and look at the show notes

[Kaneco]

Based on the show notes from that cast, it's John Parr vs Tommyknockers - Man in Motion




I found the remix they used...It's called "John Parr - New Horizon".

Man in Motion & New Horizon are both the same songs which contain those phrases in their lyrics.

I think the name is actually "Elmo's Fire".

Yeah, Tommyknockers performed the remix and named it "New Horizon"

Thanks to you, I found it! xD

[Excast]

I'm kind of surprised that only Wombat liked Dragon Age or the DA 2 demo. Based on what I have heard of Shipwreck's taste in games, I assume dhe would be a fan too. On a scale of 1-10, where would you guys rank yourselves in terms of how much you enjoy RPGs?

[LiK]

Inspector Gadget...

[lokizz]

wow another episode of lets be a douchebag to wombat. seriously cheapy you and shipwreck need to let up on the bullshit. i actually was interested in wombats views on the toy story 3 game since id heard positive things about the open world toy box but i dont know anyone who played it.

both of you are just as guilty about going on and on about shit people dont really want to hear so lighten up already. the 2 of you act like your shit dont stink and seem to get way too much pleasure from ganging up on wombat.

we get it already shipwreck you love cheapy more than life itself and you cant stand to share him with anyone. and vice versa but enough is enough with that shit. stop letting your man love for each other pull down the quality of the show if necessary go circle jerk on xbox live before doing the cagcast that way we dont have to be assulted wih your petty bullshit.

[dubbfoolio]

Interesting discussion on the xbl arcade pricing. I'm sure microsoft controls this to prevent what has happened on the apple app store which is a constant battle of undercutting prices. It's rare that I'll spend more than $.99 for an app, which is probably true for most people.

PS: nice outro. Enjoy yo'r fishing!!

[volt1up]

I'm at the point where I cringe whenever I hear you guys talk about a PS3 exclusive. Not looking forward to your Killzone 3 impressions.

Uhh.mmm..its okaaaaaay...the 3D is great!
-Future CheapyD

[lokizz]

I'm at the point where I cringe whenever I hear you guys talk about a PS3 exclusive. Not looking forward to your Killzone 3 impressions.

Uhh.mmm..its okaaaaaay...the 3D is great!
-Future CheapyD


just be ready for the halo / gears of war comparisons. it was ok but here here and here if only it was more like gears of war or halo.

[Archaic]

just be ready for the halo / gears of war comparisons. it was ok but here here and here if only it was more like gears of war or halo.

I don't think I've ever heard the guys say that they particularly loved Halo or Gears. I don't think Cheapy finished the latest iterations of either, actually.

[ShockandAww]

Forgot to say, please talk about Brink as soon as you can. I'm looking forward to it but haven't really heard much about it.

[billyok]

Wow, all three of you quick to dismiss de Blob 2, which is a great game. What a shame. Though not a surprise. Show's getting lazier by the week.

[Wombat]

Wow, all three of you quick to dismiss de Blob 2, which is a great game. What a shame. Though not a surprise. Show's getting lazier by the week.

Nothing about de Blob interests me, that's not lazy, it is honest.

[YoatOverNothing]

The two statements I made weren't really contradicting though I dont think:

1. Have someone on your show with different taste in games
2. Dont talk about games nobody cares about



But the problem with your logic is that you assume everyone cares about the same games universally. You bring up LBP2...well I don't care about that game. So if you do your #1...and have someone come on to talk about LBP2...then you've just went against #2 for me.

Anyways...

I agree with you guys that Microsoft should be lowering the prices of some of their first year XBLA games. Why would I ever buy Dig Dug for 400 points when I can get an indie game like Epic Dungeon that's only 80 points and is, in my opinion, a better game.

And Wombat...if you want to get Doug Benson on your show, try bribing him with weed.

[KingBroly]

Galactus is easy Shipwreck. When he attacks just hold back to block his attacks. Then just mash the hell out of the attack buttons.

[Davestation]

You know I swore Microsoft tried having a type of XBLA Platinum Hits. When Assault Heroes 2 came out they had a section of permanatley reduced XBLA games, though I do not think that they stuck with that. I only remember this because Assault Heroes was one of the games and they where promoting it as one of the new reduced games to play before the sequel hits. Also, Wombats rambling on of Dragon Age II bored the shit out of me and I fazed out, the same way my wife probably does when I have sex with her. Usually Shipwreck is the one that does this....

[GTmaster39]

Very good show this time around. A lot more energy.

Thanks for reading my post Wombat, and to the crew for explaining what the hell was up everyones ass for the past month and half.

Like always, keep up the good work!

[banodyne]

I totally agree with Shipwreck's statement about missing how the NPD used to report sales. By combining multiplatform sales it puts system exclusive games at a big disadvantage of getting on the Top Ten list and the publicity (and extra sales) that brings.

I have an idea. Once in a while Cheapy has published the best-selling games bought through his Amazon link. Why not make this a monthly podcast segment? A CagPD if you will. It would be a good counter-point to the NPDs and maybe get reported on by other gaming sites.

[banodyne]

I have to disagree with the Cheapy's opinion that mainstream gamers won't be into Duke Nukem Forever. They probably won't have the nostalgia that we do from the 90s but they'll respond to the over-the-top gameplay and humor they showed in the latest trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVuuyRGB_BA

[Panther1484]

Thanks guys for the props for the Top Analyst thread and to you Wombat for pointing out that ShadyMarino is the same guy as the Panther1484 guy. It made my day for sure. But then Cheapy's "who fucking cares" attitude was disappointing, but spot on. Thanks David. ;)

I have to say though that this week's episode was more energetic and entertaining. Some people might say that you guys don't have quality conversations, but honestly when it comes to video games, how much quality do you need? I don't need the in-depth conversations which think that they should be on NPR or something. Give me the CAGCast, Player One, and the Bombcast and I'm set.

Also you guys have the worst British accents. Wombat, listen to your British Cosby impression from a while's back for your "good" British impression.

Hail to Pitt.

[jkanownik]

I totally agree with Shipwreck's statement about missing how the NPD used to report sales. By combining multiplatform sales it puts system exclusive games at a big disadvantage of getting on the Top Ten list and the publicity (and extra sales) that brings.

I have an idea. Once in a while Cheapy has published the best-selling games bought through his Amazon link. Why not make this a monthly podcast segment? A CagPD if you will. It would be a good counter-point to the NPDs and maybe get reported on by other gaming sites.

You don't need Cheapy for that. Amazon let's you look up the bestselling games by month. Here's January:



Just Dance 2 Wii
Wii Fit Plus with Balance Board
LittleBigPlanet 2 PS3
Dance Central Xbox 360
Zumba Fitness Wii
Call of Duty: Black Ops PS3
LittleBigPlanet 2: Collector's Edition PS3
Your Shape Fitness Evolved Wii
Call of Duty: Black Ops Xbox 360
Disney Epic Mickey Wii

[Davestation]

You don't need Cheapy for that. Amazon let's you look up the bestselling games by month. Here's January:



Just Dance 2 Wii
Wii Fit Plus with Balance Board
LittleBigPlanet 2 PS3
Dance Central Xbox 360
Zumba Fitness Wii
Call of Duty: Black Ops PS3
LittleBigPlanet 2: Collector's Edition PS3
Your Shape Fitness Evolved Wii
Call of Duty: Black Ops Xbox 360
Disney Epic Mickey Wii



Thats just the list for Amazon and not other retailers. That list can vary because Amazon may doing certain sales or promotions that other retailers may or may not be doing. I like Amazon and they are my favorite retailer, but you still need to take into account Wal-Mart, Target, K-Mart, Gamestop, and other retailers hence the NPD comes to play.

[bickle]

An admittedly not very great example would be Little Big Planet 2...none of you played it because it's not your thing but there's a lot of people that would rather hear about a big game like that than something like that dumb ass dreamcast collection that was reviewed.

Personally I don't care about LBP2. Like, not even in the slightest bit. But I was very interested in reading the Dreamcast collection review, as I wanted to hear about what was included and how well it worked out.

It just goes to show that what you may consider to be a big game may be completely uninteresting to others, and vice-versa.

[Timeos]

Where's the link for the sales data on making your game on sale on steam, and itunes?

Quote

Also on your comments about EA and a few other subjects there is this group who I recently came upon who makes videos about the market and those specific subjects. I think you guys should give them a watch since your all basically got your foot in the door maybe you guys can help the view on gamers improve by mentioning these ideas of theirs.

Them (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits?page=1)

[usickenme]

Nothing about de Blob interests me, that's not lazy, it is honest.


those things aren't mutually exclusive, you know.

[msdmoney]

This is probably the most I've ever agreed with Wombat in an episode. I completely agree that Microsoft is just leaving money on the table with such rigid pricing for XBLA titles. I think Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo still see the downloadable space as an afterthought to the physical media market. If Microsoft was really pushing xbla deals they would make it available to silver members, instead of using the weekly deals as a means to push gold memberships. I've bought tons of games on Steam, that I likely will never play, because they were only a few bucks. I would have never even considered them before the sale or price drop.

I'm not sure if Shipwreck was just trying to play Devil's advocate, but bandwidth costs?

Hi thanks for reading my comment from last week about getting more listeners.

The two statements I made weren't really contradicting though I dont think:

1. Have someone on your show with different taste in games
2. Dont talk about games nobody cares about

An admittedly not very great example would be Little Big Planet 2...none of you played it because it's not your thing but there's a lot of people that would rather hear about a big game like that than something like that dumb ass dreamcast collection that was reviewed.

The cagcast is much more interesting when they talk about games that they actually care about. It's at its worst when they talk about games or consoles because they feel obligated to by the community or because something is on the outline every week. Why would they talk about a game they have no interest in?

I do think they can spend too much time on obscure game that nobody cares about (including them), and when going over the new releases. I don't need to hear every game, just the highlights. And by highlights I don't just mean major releases, but the games you guys are interested in.

[ShockandAww]

But the problem with your logic is that you assume everyone cares about the same games universally. You bring up LBP2...well I don't care about that game. So if you do your #1...and have someone come on to talk about LBP2...then you've just went against #2 for me.

Personally I don't care about LBP2. Like, not even in the slightest bit. But I was very interested in reading the Dreamcast collection review, as I wanted to hear about what was included and how well it worked out.

It just goes to show that what you may consider to be a big game may be completely uninteresting to others, and vice-versa.

Like I said it's not a great example to begin with because the 2 games I was talking about were on 2 completely separate shows and also LBP2 has had some broke ass online for 5 weeks now without a fix so Media Molecule and the game can suck a dick for all I care. The point remains though: More people would care about a bigger title like LBP2 than some of the other games that are talked about. That's really all I'm trying to say.

But I'd agree they should not just start playing crap they have no interest in to please anyone else.

[Dr Mario Kart]

I've got something you can mull over for another top analyst prediction. Who knows when it will be resolved though.

Its been a full 2 years of silence since the Dragon Quest 10 announcement.

So whats the deal?
a) Is it still slated as a Wii exclusive?
b) Has it been moved completely off Wii and exclusively to 3DS or the Nintendo's next home console?
c) Will it be the first multiplatform Dragon Quest, and for what systems?
d) Other (timed exclusive, 360/PS3 ports, etc)

[Kezmer]

I was also disappointed with the Dragon Age 2 Demo, I had no idea what was going on. I admit I suck at games and somehow I beat that Troll or ogre thing on the first shot. The main Hawke Died but when I figured out how to map a quick heal it was a lot easier, although when you pass that point it removed my quick heal and I died. I might buy it when there is a price drop, but I think The demo will keep from a day one purchase at this point.

Wombat is 100% right on the xbox live stuff also, I have scoured through it and thought boy this game looks cool, I forgot about it and then its still 10 or 15 bucks. I didn't have time to play Shadow Complex for example and I looked last week and its STILL 15 bucks. I'd pay 7 for it since it came out 18 months ago or so but not full price.

I work as a letter carrier walking all day so I listen to many many podcast (CAG Talkradar OXM GiantBomb Joystiq, Checkmate Arcade few other non game related ones) When a new CAGCast shows up in my itunes feed it is always the first one I listen to. The reason is simple, most of the other outlets do this for a job, and in some way are forced to do it, so sometimes you feel like certain people don't want to be there or they are not interested. I like the cagcast because I know Wombat and Shipwreck both work full time jobs and do this because they love gaming. I feel it is a genuine show.

[zebwinz]

Wombat, I completely agree with you about Dead Island. I am for a game that features a strong emotional resonance, but as a father of a baby girl, I was mortified at the beginning of that trailer and hope to never actually feel what it would be like to lose my child. I'm hoping to find a spoiler-heavy review when the game comes out and if the little girl dies, I will definitely not be buying it.

And as for a tip for a first time game convention go-er (and to everyone one else that's going):
WEAR DEODORANT!!! And bring a clothes pin for your nose because the smell of thousands of nerds who never leave the house and don't know how to be respectful in a group setting is probably the biggest reason I am not going to PAX this year. Unless I dip my head in bleach and permanently lose my sense of smell.

[davidb69]

I think they have rigid pricing on the consoles so they can have sales and sell them cheaper, so if you are desprite you pay a higher price, just like if you want something new right away you pay the $60 for the game.

Yes, you guys ordered Killzone 3, I like the fact that Wombat wouldn't even think of mentioning that he wasn't getting the game. I'm ok with it, I don't like the Killzone or Gears franchises.

Love the section 5 minutes about a game no one cares about. I was still stunned seeing Wombat playing that game online. I got it from gamefly, TS3 ok but Wombat likes it too much.

Any1 excited for Fight Night Champion next week? I want to play it but with me getting 3 copies of Pokemon Black/White and 2 versions of MLB The show 11 and MLB 2k11 the following week, I can't see getting it just to probably play it for a week.

Dragon Age 2 demo - I think it's a bad demo and won't be what the final game will be.
I think it was bad for them to demo this game.

BTW since no one seems to want to review the Show's demo. It's awesome, the coop is so cool and me and my son have had a blast playing it.

[blacketj]

I listen to many hours of podcasts every day. When I first started with the podcast thing I would listen to mostly video game podcasts. Now I only listen to the CAGcast and the 1up Oddcast. Just like Wombat, I now listen to almost all comedy podcasts. But I still get genuinely excited every time I see that there is a new CAGcast, and am saddened when I must concede that you guys are taking the week off.

My 2 cents -
Your format is great. The three of you have great chemistry. I want to hear about the games you want to talk about, that is why I listen.
Guests are not needed. Other podcasts bring on developers or industry insiders and I just find it boring. Boring stories along with a lot of ass-kissing seems to be the gist of the interview. Games are interesting, the people that make them usually aren't
If you do go for guests I would vote for people not in the industry. Wombat trying to get Doug Benson was a great idea. Interesting/funny people that can talk about games would be entertaining, otherwise don't bother.

What I like about your show, and probably why I'm still listening, is is doesn't seem like I'm listening "game journalists" (hope that doesn't offend any you). It just feels like I'm listening to funny guys that just like to play games and talk about them (or whatever is on their mind). Keep it up. I'll keep listening as long as you keep posting podcasts.

[Wombat]

Yes, you guys ordered Killzone 3, I like the fact that Wombat wouldn't even think of mentioning that he wasn't getting the game. I'm ok with it, I don't like the Killzone or Gears franchises.

Love the section 5 minutes about a game no one cares about. I was still stunned seeing Wombat playing that game online. I got it from gamefly, TS3 ok but Wombat likes it too much.



I am not getting KZ because I have Dragon Age coming in a week. I don't need it right now. I would like to play it eventually, but if I got it, it would just sit on a pile, and my wallet doesn't need that.

[skadave]

As a father of a 3 year old daughter I can relate to wombat's assessment of the Dead Island Trailer. It is strange how a father can instantly become sensitive to certain things that would have not phased him in the past. It's the same reason why i have no desire to play Heavy Rain.

[LiK]

i am not getting kz because i have dragon age coming in a week. I don't need it right now. I would like to play it eventually, but if i got it, it would just sit on a pile, and my wallet doesn't need that.

signature edition??

[nateeasy29]

Blows my mind that Cheapy has never heard of Pilotwings? Was he joking?

[davidb69]

I am not getting KZ because I have Dragon Age coming in a week. I don't need it right now. I would like to play it eventually, but if I got it, it would just sit on a pile, and my wallet doesn't need that.


That's cool, it just seemed like a morbid silence, like you didn't want to say anything. I'll even play it at some point via gamefly.

[ObiBen]

Guys, I think the show is just fine. i don't listen to the CAGCast for special segments or guests. I listen to the CAGCast because I can relate to you guys, and I always enjoy a good deal on games here and there. Don't change a thing.

[jkanownik]

Couple of notes:



Top analyst is lacking a little. Pachter doesn't just predict numbers. The numbers he predicts have context in reports and there is reasoning behind them. People grab those numbers and report on them elsewhere removing a lot of the meaning. In order to really be a top analyst you need to include more context and reasoning with your predictions.
Toy Story 3 is good. Let Wombat talk about it all he wants.
I bought Bulletstorm instead of renting it due to the Gears beta.
Vague DLC plans don't generate news. Every blog ran a story on the Bulletstorm DLC plans because the details were news.
There's a reason Valve has Portal 2 PC priced at $44.99 on Steam. With all of the data they have available from Steam sales, you would think they would price it lower than that if they thought they would make more money.

[terpkristin]

Interesting show. I haven't actually posted in one of these threads in a long while. I agree with the people here, this was a better-than-recent-episodes show. I still think that there is a correlation between length and show quality, though...your best episodes are 90 minutes or less.

I'm surprised Ship doesn't like Dragon Age very much. Sounds like I need to give the DA2 demo a go. Maybe I'll just wait for Skyrim and then worry about filling the back catalog..

/tk

[Kuromimi]

Love the show guys. Keep up the good work.

[ianoid]

I'm kind of surprised that only Wombat liked Dragon Age or the DA 2 demo.

I'm surprised too. The DA2 demo was much more hack n slash than the previous game. And what is so bad about video game breasticles? I thought the character models were great. I think you guys nailed it when you said 'it didn't feel like I was doing anything'. I agreed. I constantly reminisce about Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance and the games built on that engine (Champions of Norrath). It was very arcade-y feeling, but I got a sense that button mashing had a distinct result.

Question for the next show: Can you guys predict when you think the iPhone 3D will be released? 2012? 2013? Later?

My prediction: All three CAGCast hosts will have at least Kinect or Move by Xmas 2011. And 2 of 3 will have both. And the two with children will play with the controllers with their kids. Ohh noo! (Crazy Climber)

Have you talked about Battlefield 3 yet? Cheapy opened my eyes to Battlefield Bad Company and now it's the first online game I've played in earnest. Which of you are looking forward to it?

Another show suggestion: Videogame related Tweet analysis. Take the last 10 (or so) tweets from a video game personality or franchise and discuss them. For example, talk about the last few tweets from Gerstman.

And finally, I want to push the like button for the we pretend we're analysts segment and the iphone/ipad segment.

[Copper_City_Champ]

I'm loving the new Top Analyst segment, keep up the good work!

[skadave]

Regarding the discussion about video game price dropping.

Whenever you see an article that says something like "Assassins Creed Brotherhood Ships 5 Million Units" you can bet that it will be marked down to $40 in no time. It is a big title, but it's not Halo or a Call of Duty Game.

In order for the big retailers to get big discounts they have to buy a LOT of games. Therefore a place like amazon will discount the game quickly when they realize that it's not selling at the $60 price tag.

Side Note: Enslaved is a fantastic game, especially at $20. The voice acting and story is up there with Uncharted 2 (the story is actually much better than Uncharted 2). It is a game that makes you feel connected to the characters (without having a zombie kill a child).

[iwannadie]

Good show I enjoyed hearing about toy story 3 and it's been a game I've wanted to play since it came out but I'll hold out for a better price.

I was kinda disappointed, right after the show I just Had to play the DA2 demo after hearing about the big boobs. I played, beat the 2nd ogre after dyeing twice and was all set for full in my face massive boobs... They never came, I waited and waited and waited but nothing flopping or bouncing or even jiggling around. Then I realized it was just the big chested pirate chic wombat was talking about, I was let down. It was like seeing dog the bounty hunters wife.

[dohmai]

I'm relieved to hear that other people had trouble with ogre 2 on the DAdemo also.. thought I just sucked. I played as a rogue and was spamming the health potions I picked up and when my entire party died I just ran around avoiding the mobs until backstab was ready.. backstabbed and ran around more. I thought it was super cheesy and I was super lame and just sucked at the game..

I found it difficult to know when I was getting hit or hitting (as Cheapy pointed out)... in DA1 I actually liked the scrolling red numbers on screen to help me figure out what's going on and to help me gauge the effectiveness of any skill/spell...

Also I don't really like the zoomed out view as much.. or the realtime buttonmashing. I prefer it autoattacking the basic attack instead of having to spam X .. as Wombat says I think autoattacking makes actually pushing a button to attack/backstab/cast/shieldbash whatever that much more satisfying.. otherwise it just feels like another attack.. like you're playing street fighter or something

More poop stories please

[my2k2zx2]

Wasnt sure where to put it but CAG is mentioned in the April 2011 Maximum PC mag on page 27.

[grap3fruitman]

You're complaining about having how many subscribers? My podcast has 5 and I'm one of them. =P

[iwannadie]

You're complaining about having how many subscribers? My podcast has 5 and I'm one of them. =P

Is your mom subscriber No. 2?

[Sgt Barone]

love the new CAGcast!

[skadave]

Is your mom subscriber No. 2?


No but your mom is! ZING!

[crobledo4116]

great show...

[iwannadie]

No but your mom is! ZING!

You have a podcast targeting seniors, awesome old people need more podcasts. :applause:

[porplemontage]

Great show today guys. I really enjoy the Wombat in this one, keep it up!

[Sleepiwalrus]

you guys should do live broadcast on justin.tv

[GTmaster39]

bitgravity would work too.

[FriskyTanuki]

I'd have liked it if Microsoft explained their decisions for the award nominees, as I was surprised by some of the choices and would've appreciated some more information. Looks like Limbo will sweep all four of their awards easily.

I would love for Microsoft to get smart and start allowing for permanent price drops since they don't anymore. They got rid of the Arcade Hits program with the last dashboard update and now have no real reason to even match the three drops they'd allow each year. It happens a lot more on PSN with PSN and PSP games, as I saw that about half of the recent Greatest Hits announced for the PSP were already at their new MSRPs on PSN or less. I've noted before that you can get the Penny Arcade episodes for $15 total on PSN and they're $35 total on Xbox Live. Xbox Live Games on Demand is an even bigger joke with the recent release of Super Street Fighter IV at $40, which is the same price it launched at in April 2010.

Pilotwings Resort is the flying mode from Wii Sports Resort being sold for $40.

The predictions were all pure cupcake and makes the segment worthless if you guys won't even own up to making a bad prediction.

The perfect advice for any convention is to take a shower every day. Don't add to the enormous amount of BO that will fill up any convention.

I noticed that Cheapy's killed the CAGbag thread since he conveniently forgets to check it before each show, so nobody really bothers posting in there any more.

[Stryffe2004]

I will be curious to hear how Cheapy likes Killzone 3 in 3D. I played it in 3D and thought it was amazing. There are a lot of 3D haters that just seem to dismiss 3D without giving it a fair shot.
BTW Cheapy, check out Piranha 3D if you want to get some good use out of your television.

[Z_meista]

i like the show format, so keep it up. I really don't like the top analyst segment though. you guys need to them more daring and controversial.

[Viper139]

Had my question read on the show! :P

[KingBroly]

I would love for Microsoft to get smart and start allowing for permanent price drops since they don't anymore. They got rid of the Arcade Hits program with the last dashboard update and now have no real reason to even match the three drops they'd allow each year. It happens a lot more on PSN with PSN and PSP games, as I saw that about half of the recent Greatest Hits announced for the PSP were already at their new MSRPs on PSN or less. I've noted before that you can get the Penny Arcade episodes for $15 total on PSN and they're $35 total on Xbox Live. Xbox Live Games on Demand is an even bigger joke with the recent release of Super Street Fighter IV at $40, which is the same price it launched at in April 2010.

Actually, Super Street Fighter IV is $30 on XBLM now. They just don't advertise the price drops. It still doesn't excuse Modern Warfare 2 being $60 though.

[carbogo]

Cheapy, if you wanna see a live show format that keeps good production quality (from hosts that aren't in the same room) you should check out:
http://www.gamebreaker.tv/
They mainly focus on MMOs. The hosts reference the live chat and make corrections corrections from the chat.

[FriskyTanuki]

Actually, Super Street Fighter IV is $30 on XBLM now. They just don't advertise the price drops. It still doesn't excuse Modern Warfare 2 being $60 though.
It wasn't for at least the first few weeks. I don't see why they'd shy away from letting people know by putting more press releases on Major Nelson's site.

This (http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Games/GamesOnDemand?SortBy=BestSelling) says that charging $60 for MW2 is a smart decision since it's second on the list of best-selling games on demand games all-time. It'll sell regardless of price, which is also why it's always in the top three of the best-selling games on Steam during the holiday sales when there are loads of cheaper games that you'd think should be selling more than the latest Call of Duty.

[jkanownik]

Actually, Super Street Fighter IV is $30 on XBLM now. They just don't advertise the price drops. It still doesn't excuse Modern Warfare 2 being $60 though.

Games usually match their MSRP. When the MSRP is dropped the on demand price will drop. The MSRP for Modern Warfare 2 is still $60.

Battlefield Bad Company 2 is actually the worst offender. The on demand version is the same price as the Ultimate Edition, but it doesn't come with the VIP Pass or any of the DLC.

[FriskyTanuki]

Games usually match their MSRP. When the MSRP is dropped the on demand price will drop. The MSRP for Modern Warfare 2 is still $60.

Battlefield Bad Company 2 is actually the worst offender. The on demand version is the same price as the Ultimate Edition, but it doesn't come with the VIP Pass or any of the DLC.
Do they even have the ability to do bundles like that on XBL? I know that when the second DeathSpank came out on XBLA, they couldn't bundle the DLC with just purchases and had to make the DLC free to everyone for the first week to everyone.

[KingBroly]

They probably have the ability to, but they don't. I can't see how PSN has a bundling feature and uses it quite frequently while XBLM doesn't use it at all.

[PlumeNoir]

I must confess to taking a small bit of umbrage on the Detroit ragging, no matter how deserved it may be. I work downtown and I rather enjoy having my morning coffee and watching the sun rise over Windsor from my fifteenth floor office.

Seriously though, just a few months back on my way into work, I stopped at a gas station. On my way in, I was stopped by a Jehovah's Witness. Less than five minutes later, as I walked out, I was approached by a hooker. I still haven't decided if they were working in tandem or not.

I strongly support the Robocop statue. Have you seen the pledges? Supposedly, it's over $60k... http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/imaginationstation/detroit-needs-a-statue-of-robocop

EDIT: I highly recommend watching the video at the above link, wherein the plot of Robocop is rapped...

[testudo]

I hope you discuss this on the next show... this is very sad news for NYC gamers:
http://www.boweryboogie.com/2011/02/breaking-chinatown-fair-arcade-shutters/

[Davestation]

I hope you discuss this on the next show... this is very sad news for NYC gamers:
http://www.boweryboogie.com/2011/02/breaking-chinatown-fair-arcade-shutters/

Must be a New York thing, could give a shit less if a business is moving to another place. Would be sadder if it was being closed permanently, but honestly why would the rest of the world audience care? I miss arcades, but them closing is to common of a thing here in the states. This one is just closing down to move to another location, so that is lucky!! If they talk about that, I want them to mention how my Pilates Class in Eau Claire, WI is closing and moving three blocks away down the street.....

[testudo]

Must be a New York thing, could give a shit less if a business is moving to another place. Would be sadder if it was being closed permanently, but honestly why would the rest of the world audience care? I miss arcades, but them closing is to common of a thing here in the states. This one is just closing down to move to another location, so that is lucky!! If they talk about that, I want them to mention how my Pilates Class in Eau Claire, WI is closing and moving three blocks away down the street.....

Lots of talk about it never moving, that it will just die. This arcade had so much character, it was dark, old, smelly, with all the hottest new games. It was a place where someone would play a fighting game with you, just to prove that they were better, and then leave the game as soon as they beat you. It was a bit of a time machine, it was New York City in the 70s-80s. I took my Father-in-law there once, and when he came out, he said "Did I just catch a disease?" This was a piece of NYC that heir Rudy Giuliani never touched in his massive "cleaning-up" of NYC.

Let me restate and revise, This is a big change and an end to a piece of NYC.. not just for arcade gamers.