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Organization_XIII
03-10-2011, 06:39 PM
http://www.nintenfan.com/home/images/stories/zelda_25th_anniversary_gdc.jpg
http://wii.ign.com/articles/115/1153025p1.html
Don't know if there is another thread somewhere else, but what are your thoughts? First Mario and now Zelda. I think it's getting sad that Nintendo is trying to make you buy the same games over and over again, but die-hard Zelda fans might be interested.
cochesecochese
03-10-2011, 06:50 PM
Don't know if there is another thread somewhere else, but what are your thoughts?
I think that IGN is shit and they really don't need any more page views. Text of full article below:
During Satoru Iwata's keynote speech at 2011's Game Developer's conference, the President of Nintendo (http://games.ign.com/objects/025/025047.html) announced that the company is working on "something" to honor the 25th anniversary of The Legend of Zelda (http://wii.ign.com/objects/748/748589.html).
And he pretty much left it at that.
Aside from a logo that tells us little more than the fact that it's something to do with the Zelda franchise, we only know that Miyamoto himself is working on it, and that gamers will see what it is this year.
It will probably be a ROM dump with a collector's edition jacket and/or artbook. No point getting my hopes up unless it's released for 3DS.
Mr Unoriginal
03-10-2011, 07:17 PM
For suckers.
omster
03-10-2011, 08:20 PM
"All I can tell you," said Fils-Aime, "is that it will be different than what we did for Mario, and it will be just as special."
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/03/10/reggie-admits-that-nintendo-is-juggling-two-big-balls/
ROB64
03-10-2011, 10:22 PM
"Just as special"
Lmao, All Stars wasn't special at all. They just threw a (what should've been) virtual console game on a disc and added a music CD. Barely worth $10; definitely not worth the $30 price tag they put on it. I won't get my hopes up for the 25th Anniversary Zelda, alas, I will probably buy it like I did the Mario one. I'm a sucker for Nintendo. :P
dothog
03-10-2011, 10:40 PM
"All I can tell you," said Fils-Aime, "is that it will be different than what we did for Mario, and it will be just as special."
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/03/10/reggie-admits-that-nintendo-is-juggling-two-big-balls/
You've unwittingly derailed this entire thread with the article title in that link.
Reggie admits that Nintendo is 'juggling two big balls'
Ooh, I'm listening, Reggie, you saucy bitch.
david12795
03-10-2011, 11:05 PM
definitely in on this. im a huge zelda fan. looking forward to this! i just cant believe its at the end of the year :(
rlse9
03-10-2011, 11:31 PM
I predict some sort of pre-order bonus for Skyward Sword, like they did with Wind Waker.
Salamando3000
03-10-2011, 11:51 PM
If they do a compilation this time, I'm hoping they throw in games I can't already play on my Wii....Link's Awakening, Oracle of Ages/Seasons...actually, just throw A Link to the Past in there too, release it on the DS/3DS, and you've got a product worth buying.
Frogurt.man
03-11-2011, 12:05 AM
I had a dream that the Elite Status reward for Club Nintendo this year would be a small statue of Link. That would make me happy.
moothemagiccow
03-11-2011, 12:15 AM
You've unwittingly derailed this entire thread with the article title in that link.
Reggie admits that Nintendo is 'juggling two big balls'
Ooh, I'm listening, Reggie, you saucy bitch.
Ugh. Why does anyone interview that doofus? He makes no important decisions so he always gives boilerplate CYA answers.
Spanky
03-11-2011, 01:44 AM
I had a dream that the Elite Status reward for Club Nintendo this year would be a small statue of Link. That would make me happy.
I too would be happy with this. Sadly I missed out on the Mario 25th anniversary set but as a true Zelda fan I will not miss this one!
RabbitSuit
03-11-2011, 03:10 AM
Dunno, that statue might tick off the people who spent a 15thousand stars on the Golden Link statue. I personally wouldn't mind seeing those things plummet in price.
Not large on its looks though.
http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2008/01/goldlink.jpg
I look forward to what they do with the 25th anniversary LoZ pack.
uncle5555
03-11-2011, 06:57 AM
I'd be surprised if it's not more than a rehash of what they did with the LoZ collection on the GC, but this time they'll remove OoT since they don't want to cannibalize the sales of OoT 3DS, like they did by not having LttP in the LoZ Collection due to the GBA port.
Personally I'm not expecting much from this....they might surprise me, but I doubt it.
sciafb
03-16-2011, 12:12 PM
I think at this point we'll probably be happy enough with what we get, granted we expected so much from the Mario one that now we got low expectations. I know I have no expectations this time around, and it goes the same for Skyward Sword (I am sadly not hyping myself over it like I did with Twilight Princess because it really was not what I built it up to be back then).
Wind Waker remake (with more dungeons) for 3DS please..
LordVila
03-16-2011, 12:46 PM
A master quest mode for Majoras Mask.
dothog
03-16-2011, 01:03 PM
Wind Waker remake (with more dungeons) for 3DS please..
Do that for the Wii with GameCube controller option intact and you'd have the best console Zelda. I would move worlds and Reggie's two big balls to make this happen.
ROB64
03-16-2011, 01:24 PM
Do that for the Wii with GameCube controller option intact and you'd have the best console Zelda.
For sooth.
Masterkyo
03-16-2011, 01:34 PM
OoT (3DS) in summer and sure Majoras Mask will land on 3DS. Maybe Zelda 4 words & the Wind Waker and all the Nes, SNes, GBC & GBA version will on 25th Collection :)
crunchewy
03-16-2011, 02:20 PM
Maybe Zelda 4 words
I think you left out the word "letter".
rlse9
03-16-2011, 04:43 PM
It's funny how half the people out there complain how Nintendo wastes so many resources on remaking games and the other half beg for the games that haven't been remade to be remade...can't make everyone happy I guess.
dothog
03-17-2011, 07:55 AM
It's funny how half the people out there complain how Nintendo wastes so many resources on remaking games and the other half beg for the games that haven't been remade to be remade...can't make everyone happy I guess.
Those halves aren't exclusive. For some fans, the latter comes once you accept (and not complain about) the former.
KingBroly
03-17-2011, 10:40 AM
Some older games (even Nintendo games) need remakes badly. Zelda II kinda does, but it also kinda doesn't. A map screen would help, as well as easier difficulties. The only Nintendo game IMO that needs a remake (outside of the Mother series because I desperately want to play them) is Metroid II.
Skyward Sword with Gold Wii Remote + Bundle will probably happen.
foltzie
03-17-2011, 12:42 PM
Some older games (even Nintendo games) need remakes badly. Zelda II kinda does, but it also kinda doesn't. A map screen would help, as well as easier difficulties. The only Nintendo game IMO that needs a remake (outside of the Mother series because I desperately want to play them) is Metroid II.
Indeed, Metroid 2 on the Zero Mission engine would be wonderfully fun.
I dont even think Zelda 2 needs updated AI, but perhaps experience point adjustments to remove the needless grind.
rocky435
03-19-2011, 09:05 PM
Stellaview Zelda 1!!! that would at least make paying for the comp package worth it.
Halo05
03-21-2011, 09:45 PM
I'm down for pretty much whatever it is. The only Zelda anything that I've had issues with were the touch-screen driven DS games. Well, I only played the first one but the controls were the issue and from what I've read, they remain broken.
I'm secure enough to admit that I'll buy another compilation.
I don't really think Wii is the right console for any Zelda collection. Wiimote won't be good for any Zelda after 3, it'll have to be the GBA version at that. Only exception to this is the Twilight Princess. 3DS makes more sense with the controls.
Or Nintendo can actually do some work and come up with a motion control for N64 Zeldas and WW. I don't think Nintendo will make any collection that will require the classic controller. They haven't done that with Mario and I don't see why that will change for Zelda.
Corvin
03-22-2011, 08:07 AM
Not to be down on the idea, but with 2 different Zelda collections on Gamecube, is this even necessary? Mario All Stars only contained the NES games, so would Nintendo try and do the same and just have 2 Zelda games on there?
dothog
03-22-2011, 08:49 AM
Not to be down on the idea, but with 2 different Zelda collections on Gamecube, is this even necessary? Mario All Stars only contained the NES games, so would Nintendo try and do the same and just have 2 Zelda games on there?
Both the MQ and Collector's Edition discs were available through various promotions only. (I got my CE through the N-Power promotion, bought MQ used.) Nintendo could justify repackaging CE as a 25th anniv edition on the basis of making that disc available to an ever expanding Zelda fanbase. I understand the "necessity" point, I really do, but at this point I don't think it's a realistic basis. The Mario ROM dump happened, it sold, from N's perspective the people are looking for cheap, tasteless ROM dumps. Quality and taste do not enter into it from N's POV.
That being said, if/when the ROM dump happens, the true "necessity" in all of this is to improve the emulation, especially if MM is involved. I don't know how MM turned out on the VC (I wasn't getting bit thrice on that one), but on the CE disc the emulation for MM was awful. It featured freezes and glitches in just the right amount: few enough that you don't think it'll happen again, numerous enough to screw a few saves and eventually force you to forget it altogether. There were sound problems, too, IIRC. I had many, many hours of playtime thrown back in my face on MM, and finally I gave up. In that sense, the "emulation FAIL" sense, the MM portion of CE truly was for collectors, it was there to have and not to play.
If they do release the 25th Zelda as a ROM dump, my hope is that, in at least "updating" the games to accommodate Wii input, they hold the emulation to a higher standard. I'd consider a purchase if they really go out and dump a shitload of titles on there, including some handhelds, and after a full year of release there aren't any emulation complaints from consumers. There's no way my dream scenario will happen, I'm just sayin that's what it would take.
ROB64
03-22-2011, 09:39 AM
Wiimote won't be good for any Zelda after 3, it'll have to be the GBA version at that. Only exception to this is the Twilight Princess.
Hmm, maybe they can port Twilight Princess to the Wii.
OH WAIT THEY ALREADY DID THAT!
hrmph.
soonersfan60
03-22-2011, 02:54 PM
It would be nice if they fix the "bugs" in Majora's Mask that cause the game to not play right and freeze sometimes (or did that also happen on the N64 version?).
Corvin
03-22-2011, 09:10 PM
Weren't there some issues with rumble in Ocarina as well?
Weren't there some issues with rumble in Ocarina as well?
Not that I noticed. I played OoT on both the N64 and CE, albeit nearly a decade apart, and didn't notice anything that's wrong with the rumble.
MM like someone mentioned is total crap on CE. Get the VC version for that.
dothog
03-23-2011, 07:28 AM
Not that I noticed. I played OoT on both the N64 and CE, albeit nearly a decade apart, and didn't notice anything that's wrong with the rumble.
MM like someone mentioned is total crap on CE. Get the VC version for that.
Yes, in my experience, OoT is pretty smooth.
So did they modify the ROM itself of Majora's Mask to eliminate bugs? Or are the bugs from the original ROM (the one on the N64 cart) still there, just with improved emulation? I'd really love to finish MM, but I've had awful luck with the game across three different playthroughs.
EDIT: Sounds like the glitches from the original ROM of MM are there (which makes sense, I doubt they're going to debug source and recompile a new MM -- or however games are built up from code). Plus there's a few new VC specific glitches. It's fun!
MM is just a barrel of snakes when it comes to bugs/glitches/whole heap of bullshit. For as great a game as it is, my personal stance is fuck that game, it's destroyed enough of my play time. I'll break down in a couple years and want to play all the way through, and I'm sure at that time I'll have another save glitched out and/or corrupted.
Corvin
03-23-2011, 11:08 AM
Not that I noticed. I played OoT on both the N64 and CE, albeit nearly a decade apart, and didn't notice anything that's wrong with the rumble.
There wasn't anything wrong with it, per se, but IIRC, some of the hidden items that were found only with rumble didn't work.
No biggie, I'm sure I'll get this set regardless.
Josh5890
03-31-2011, 10:35 PM
Nintendo could really do it right with Zelda, but I doubt it. I predict the NES games and Link to the past. Throw a CD and pop a $30 tag on it.
KingBroly
04-02-2011, 09:04 PM
Yes, in my experience, OoT is pretty smooth.
So did they modify the ROM itself of Majora's Mask to eliminate bugs? Or are the bugs from the original ROM (the one on the N64 cart) still there, just with improved emulation? I'd really love to finish MM, but I've had awful luck with the game across three different playthroughs.
EDIT: Sounds like the glitches from the original ROM of MM are there (which makes sense, I doubt they're going to debug source and recompile a new MM -- or however games are built up from code). Plus there's a few new VC specific glitches. It's fun!
MM is just a barrel of snakes when it comes to bugs/glitches/whole heap of bullshit. For as great a game as it is, my personal stance is fuck that game, it's destroyed enough of my play time. I'll break down in a couple years and want to play all the way through, and I'm sure at that time I'll have another save glitched out and/or corrupted.
From my understanding the N64 games on the Virtual Console are actually ported to the system. Majora's Mask in the CE has a million and one bugs. Majora's Mask on the VC removed a lot of the problems, but I think some still exist.
anotherpoorgamer
04-05-2011, 06:47 PM
I'd like a Zelda Collection that comprised all on one Wii disc:
NES
The Legend of Zelda
Zelda II
SNES
Zelda: Link to the Past
N64
Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Zelda Ocarina of Time: Master's Quest (Is this even on the Virtual Console yet?)
Plus a soundtrack, even if it was similar to the Super Mario one missing various tracks.
On the 3DS/DS/DSi collection cartridge: (I know this one probably won't happen)
Zelda Link's Awakeing DX
Zelda Oracle of Ages and Seasons
Zelda Minish Cap
RabbitSuit
04-05-2011, 08:23 PM
It'd be great if it came bundled with redefined versions of the Gameboy games. Especially since one was never released state-side. Aside from that, I really don't know how it could be made any different.
If it weren't for OoT being released on the 3DS, I'd say they'd probably toss it in there too.
lurknomore
04-05-2011, 08:24 PM
I'd like a Zelda Collection that comprised all on one Wii disc:
NES
The Legend of Zelda
Zelda II
SNES
Zelda: Link to the Past
N64
Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Zelda Ocarina of Time: Master's Quest (Is this even on the Virtual Console yet?)
Plus a soundtrack, even if it was similar to the Super Mario one missing various tracks.
On the 3DS/DS/DSi collection cartridge: (I know this one probably won't happen)
Zelda Link's Awakeing DX
Zelda Oracle of Ages and Seasons
Zelda Minish Cap
I love your 3DS collection cartridge idea....but don't think that it will ever happen. Please surprise me Nintendo.
sciafb
04-06-2011, 02:41 AM
At least this time around we have lower expectations for Zelda after the understood lazy mario all stars thing. Its a good thing!
Corvin
04-06-2011, 09:13 AM
At least this time around we have lower expectations for Zelda after the understood lazy mario all stars thing. Its a good thing!
:lol: Too true.
Like the original Mario All-Stars on the SNES, I'd like to see them go back and revamp the graphics on whatever they are offering, say the first 3 games. It would be a worthwhile purchase to say the least.
How sweet would Wii Mario All-Stars have been if they redid the games with NSMBWii graphics?
david12795
04-06-2011, 02:31 PM
why is nintendo so cheap? they better not release like 2 games on this anniversary.
Sir_Fragalot
04-07-2011, 03:00 PM
My dream would be a new 3D Zelda on 3DS with circle pad movement (and not their DS attempts which I didn't care for).
Now with that said, I probably wont be buying any collector edition zelda games unless they make them on the 3DS with full 3D. Then I will day one that shit.
I love Zelda but I am not a huge fan of collector edition packs or special edition packs of games.
omster
04-22-2011, 02:27 AM
When asked about the Zelda franchise, he says that Nintendo will celebrate the series' anniversary this year, much like they did last year with Super Mario. Miyamoto mentions that there will be products commemorating the release of the first game in the series.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/26125
I guess that goes against what Reggie said.
cochesecochese
04-22-2011, 07:49 AM
Yeah, but Reggie's a huge douche.
NOA is beholden to NCL. What NCL says goes. As far as 'merchandise' goes, I'm leaning very heavily towards new t-shirts from King of Games and maybe a Club Nintendo Japan prize. Nothing crazy but still super cool.
Corvin
04-25-2011, 02:03 PM
there will be products commemorating the release of the first game in the series.
"The first game in the series?" Uh, oh.
cochesecochese
04-25-2011, 02:33 PM
Uh oh....why? Were you expecting the celebrations to commemorate the CDi games?
Corvin
04-25-2011, 03:46 PM
"First game in the series" reads, to me, ONLY the original LoZ and not any sequels.
theflicker
04-25-2011, 04:04 PM
Only the first game is celebrating its 25th anniversary. Same thing with SMB1 last year. That didn't stop the sequels from being part of the celebration.
I think you're reading too much into it.
Masterkyo
04-25-2011, 11:32 PM
maybe buy new Zelda (wii) and get 25th anniversay Disc free
sciafb
04-26-2011, 07:16 AM
How sweet would Wii Mario All-Stars have been if they redid the games with NSMBWii graphics?
That is what I saw alot of people repeat as what they'd imagine would happen (that would have been awesome, and probably not that hard to do!!). Unfortunately we didn't get that so when it comes to Zelda, while nintendo does know that REAL gamers are the ones who care mostly about Zelda, I don't see what could be planned this time around.
I wouldn't read too much into what Miyamoto said refering to first Zelda game, we need to wait to see what else we might hear of, or just all get our collective asses blown off from the e3 showing this year. It seems to be becoming a huge show this year... I can't wait.
KingBroly
04-26-2011, 07:18 AM
NSMBW should've had the graphics and physics of SMB1, SMB2, SMB3, SMW and NSMB.
Cap'n_RDM
04-26-2011, 12:45 PM
NSMBW should've had the graphics and physics of SMB1, SMB2, SMB3, SMW and NSMB.
Not to derail the thread but you didn't like NSMBW?
david12795
06-12-2011, 06:48 PM
a new zelda exclusive controller:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/40408/legend-of-zelda-gold-remote
So it is just a concert, new gold controller, and free 4 swords for Dsi/3DS
dothog
06-12-2011, 07:24 PM
At least it's not a ROM dump.
I think the best way to celebrate the 25th would have been to release Skyward in August or September. Making me wait until November is some bullshit.
And neener neener to you cynical bastages who said they'd withhold Skyward until the release of Wii 2, aka Wii U, aka WIIU, aka HAHAHAHA I STILL DON'T GET IT.
david12795
06-12-2011, 07:53 PM
im getting the controller. no doubt.
TheLongshot
06-12-2011, 08:11 PM
So it is just a concert, new gold controller, and free 4 swords for Dsi/3DS
Also, Link's Awakening for the first title in the virtual console lineup for 3DS, Ocarina Of Time 3D for the 3DS, free soundtrack for OoT for registering, and a CD of the concert. Oh yeah, and the release of Skyward Sword. They also suggested that there may be more "events" coming, so who knows what else.
Seems a lot better to me than Mario's anniversary.
evildeadjedi
06-12-2011, 08:27 PM
I'd like a Zelda Collection that comprised all on one Wii disc:
NES
The Legend of Zelda
Zelda II
SNES
Zelda: Link to the Past
N64
Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Zelda Ocarina of Time: Master's Quest (Is this even on the Virtual Console yet?)
Plus a soundtrack, even if it was similar to the Super Mario one missing various tracks.
On the 3DS/DS/DSi collection cartridge: (I know this one probably won't happen)
Zelda Link's Awakeing DX
Zelda Oracle of Ages and Seasons
Zelda Minish Cap
:drool::drool::drool::drool: That would be fucking amazing!
What's this about Zelda four swords for DSI ??? Awesome, hopefully a port of the gamecube game (crosses fingers), and that it has multiplayer capability oh wait none of my friends own DSI's or 3DSs.
dothog
06-12-2011, 11:24 PM
What's this about Zelda four swords for DSI ??? Awesome, hopefully a port of the gamecube game (crosses fingers), and that it has multiplayer capability oh wait none of my friends own DSI's or 3DSs.
What's this about you not playing 4 swords with your friends on the dsis or 3dss they don't own? Awesome, hopefully you guys will have fun not playing that oh wait you don't have any friends.
Friend of Sonic
06-13-2011, 01:48 AM
What's this about you not playing 4 swords with your friends on the dsis or 3dss they don't own? Awesome, hopefully you guys will have fun not playing that oh wait you don't have any friends.
Second degree burn.
jab1235
06-13-2011, 02:38 PM
the zelda collector's disk is $30 at gamestop right now, should i order it now or wait to see if they release anything for the 25th anniversary. Im in the mood for some LoZ
http://uk.kotaku.com/5812859/nintendo-has-crushed-your-dreams-of-a-zelda-25th-anniversary-compilation
Looks like the blame goes to Nintendo of Japan
Corvin
06-17-2011, 01:48 PM
I have the GCN collections, so I'm fine with this... especially since they probably would have half-assed it like Mario anyway.
david12795
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
well they still better come out with the remote..
Zmonkay
06-17-2011, 03:21 PM
Oh come on! At least release all the Oracles series on 3DS shop or something! I was actually anticipating a 3DS remake (ala Excitebike 3D) of the original NES Zelda, as that's what it's really the anniversary of.
They better not bitch out and say that OoT 3D was the anniversary tribute...
jab1235
06-17-2011, 04:20 PM
Guess that answered my question on whether i should wait or get the GCN collection.
JSiggy
06-17-2011, 04:51 PM
did no one watch the nintendo e3 speech?
they said they are releasing 4 zelda games & doing concerts in asia, europe, america for the 25th anniv.
nothing was ever said about a collection...
Xiaan
06-19-2011, 07:37 PM
I'm happy we're getting a golden Zelda-themed Wii remote. I think expecting a collection of some sort is too much to ask for from Nintendo given how half-assed the 25th Anniversary Mario Collection was (which I liked, given I didn't previously own All-Stars, but still--half-assed and reeking of cash-grab).