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pumbaa
12-08-2004, 02:52 AM
So, a Skies of Arcadia thread got me thinking about my good ol' buddy DC. The system was amazing... the games were friken amazing... and the online capabilities were revolutionary. If you owned the console, what did you think of it. It was my first step into hardcore gamerdom, and it was a damn good first step. So discuss, and remember the good times. BTW Capcom, I'm still waiting for my PowerStone boxset complilation for Gamecube. :lol:

Rig
12-08-2004, 02:55 AM
Love it! I still bust mine out every once in a while. I still take it online too! Look at my game collection and see all of the great DC games I have!

Tromack
12-08-2004, 02:57 AM
For the longest time my DC was my favorite console. I still like it, and still play Virtua Tennis and Soul Calibur.

Scorch
12-08-2004, 02:59 AM
I still play mine.

Rig
12-08-2004, 02:59 AM
Virtua Tennis, now there's a game I still need to pick up...

cheapass Gundam
12-08-2004, 03:00 AM
Bought it before the US launch when I got the imported box of The House of the Dead 2 with lightgun, since I loved the original. Kept it for all the amazing imports, including the Sakura Wars saga by Overworks, the same Sega studio that created Skies of Arcadia. Even got the Sakura Wars LE console.

Still love Illbleed after all these years. Best survival horror evah.

Holy grail: the broadband adaptor!

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:00 AM
Where's zionoverfire? He's a huge fan of the Dreamcast ;)

rockhero
12-08-2004, 03:02 AM
My buddies and I still play Worms Armageddon, Virtua Tennis, and Chu Chu Rocket 4 player once in a while. Skies of Arcadia is one of my favorite games of all time. Awesome system, I loved it.

guyver2077
12-08-2004, 03:02 AM
dc rules!

Medium_Pimpin
12-08-2004, 03:03 AM
Best Resident Evil game to date: Check
Best Fighting Game(SC) to date: Check
Best JRPG this gen(Grandia II): Check

I miss the DC, and i went jobless in 2001 or else i would have supported it legally.

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:05 AM
Best Resident Evil game to date: Check
Best Fighting Game(SC) to date: Check
Best RPG this gen(Grandia II): Check

I miss the DC, and i went jobless in 2001 or else i would have supported it legally.

Grandia II was pretty good for the time, but I don't think it was the best RPG for the system.

zionoverfire
12-08-2004, 03:05 AM
Where's zionoverfire? He's a huge fan of the Dreamcast ;)

Are you trying to mock my beloved dreamcast?

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:07 AM
Where's zionoverfire? He's a huge fan of the Dreamcast ;)

Are you trying to mock my beloved dreamcast?

You and sblymnl are not human :P

kristianator
12-08-2004, 03:07 AM
Best Resident Evil game to date: Check
Best Fighting Game(SC) to date: Check
Best JRPG this gen(Grandia II): Check

I miss the DC, and i went jobless in 2001 or else i would have supported it legally.

correction:

Best Fighting Game (SFIII: 3rd Strike) to date: Check

zionoverfire
12-08-2004, 03:07 AM
Where's zionoverfire? He's a huge fan of the Dreamcast ;)

Are you trying to mock my beloved dreamcast?

You and sblymnl are not human :P

Cyborgs are human.

guyver2077
12-08-2004, 03:07 AM
grandia 2 was awesome....those spells looked amazing!!!

CouRageouS
12-08-2004, 03:08 AM
4 Player Virtual Tennis was the shit. Power Stone, Marvel Vs Capcom 2, and all those other great games replaced pushed my DC to become the party machine. It replaced my N64s popularity.

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:08 AM
4 Player Virtual Tennis was the shit. Power Stone, Marvel Vs Capcom 2, and all those other great games replaced pushed my DC to become the party machine. It replaced my N64s popularity.

The N64 was popular? :lol:

guyver2077
12-08-2004, 03:09 AM
Best Resident Evil game to date: Check
Best Fighting Game(SC) to date: Check
Best JRPG this gen(Grandia II): Check

I miss the DC, and i went jobless in 2001 or else i would have supported it legally.

correction:

Best Fighting Game (SFIII: 3rd Strike) to date: Check

correction:

Best Fighting Game (MK:GOLD) to date: Check

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:09 AM
Hey zion do you have a job?

kristianator
12-08-2004, 03:11 AM
i hope the MK: Gold thing was a joke.

guyver2077
12-08-2004, 03:11 AM
i hope the MK: Gold thing was a joke.

LMAO

CouRageouS
12-08-2004, 03:12 AM
4 Player Virtual Tennis was the shit. Power Stone, Marvel Vs Capcom 2, and all those other great games replaced pushed my DC to become the party machine. It replaced my N64s popularity.

The N64 was popular? :lol:
Yea! The 4 controller ports made it the party console before DC came out. Smash Bros, No Mercy, Goldeneye..come on now!

zionoverfire
12-08-2004, 03:12 AM
Hey zion do you have a job?

HAHA! I"m a student for 6 more months! And when I work its only part time during the day!

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:13 AM
Hey zion do you have a job?

HAHA! I"m a student for 6 more months! And when I work its only part time during the day!

You suck man ... I have been getting my ass kicked at work the last few days ... my post count is falling way down ;)

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:15 AM
4 Player Virtual Tennis was the shit. Power Stone, Marvel Vs Capcom 2, and all those other great games replaced pushed my DC to become the party machine. It replaced my N64s popularity.

The N64 was popular? :lol:
Yea! The 4 controller ports made it the party console before DC came out. Smash Bros, No Mercy, Goldeneye..come on now!

No man ... just no ... I'll give you Smash Brothers, but I really didn't like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark that much. I hate the layout of the controller :P

jimbodan
12-08-2004, 03:17 AM
Personally, I didn't like it. Most all of it's best games were fighting games and I don't like fighting games.

Jet Grind Radio was awesome, so was Sonic Adventure. Other then those 2 games though, most of the rest of the lineup left me wanting more. Graphics were really good though, whatever that's worth...

Since Ebgames had been blowing out DC's dirt cheap I went ahead and got another one since I sold my original. Now that I know a lot more about games I can appreciate a couple more games like Grandia 2, Shenmue, and Cannon Spike, but still compared to other consoles, there just aren't nearly as many "must-have" games.

pumbaa
12-08-2004, 03:19 AM
Yeah, Grandia II was amazing. I remember my friend lent it to me, and I got all the way to the final boss (or close to it anyways... when the evil chick was fighting you). She had this one spell, that froze the game everytime. So in that battle, everytime SHE used it (the AI) the game would freeze. So sad... I never finished it. Such a good stary too. That battle system was AMAZING. Where the hell is Grandia 3?!?!? (and no... Grandia Xtremem doesn;t count...)

Lets not forget out little buddy the VMU... connectivity before there was connectivity. GOD why did the DC fail?!!?

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:20 AM
Personally, I didn't like it. Most all of it's best games were fighting games and I don't like fighting games.

Jet Grind Radio was awesome, so was Sonic Adventure. Other then those 2 games though, most of the rest of the lineup left me wanting more. Graphics were really good though, whatever that's worth...

Since Ebgames had been blowing out DC's dirt cheap I went ahead and got another one since I sold my original. Now that I know a lot more about games I can appreciate a couple more games like Grandia 2, Shenmue, and Cannon Spike, but still compared to other consoles, there just aren't nearly as many "must-have" games.

I always liked the Spawn game when playing with a couple of people :)

There are good import shooter for it though if you like those like Border Down, Twinkle Star Sprites (port of a Neo title), and others. I actually didn't like the DC that much until the last 6 months or so when I started buying some of the more unknown games like Gundam 0079.

roland13x
12-08-2004, 03:22 AM
4 player Sega Swirl....drinking game goodness!

And Typing of the Dead....brilliant!

Oh, and the faulty launch software....excellant.....err...wait a second....

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:26 AM
4 player Sega Swirl....drinking game goodness!

And Typing of the Dead....brilliant!

Oh, and the faulty launch software....excellant.....err...wait a second....

Weren't almost all of those Midway games?

I think they were Hydro Thunder, MK Gold, and Ready 2 Rumble.

roland13x
12-08-2004, 03:26 AM
I had a faulty Sonic as well....

CouRageouS
12-08-2004, 03:28 AM
4 player Sega Swirl....drinking game goodness!

And Typing of the Dead....brilliant!

Oh, and the faulty launch software....excellant.....err...wait a second....
Sega Swirl is the best! Collapse in the CAG arcade is almost just like it.

I almost forgot about Phantast Star Online. That had me going to school sleepless sometimes.

jousley
12-08-2004, 03:28 AM
I played SO much Phantasy Star Online on the DC when it first came out. To this day I break out the DC and play Bangaio and Armada and Soul Calibur. Also, Powerstone is still so much fun! Its sad that Bangaio wasnt more popular...its a really amazing game.

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:29 AM
4 player Sega Swirl....drinking game goodness!

And Typing of the Dead....brilliant!

Oh, and the faulty launch software....excellant.....err...wait a second....
Sega Swirl is the best! Collapse in the CAG arcade is almost just like it.

I almost forgot about Phantast Star Online. That had me going to school sleepless sometimes.

It's sad that PSO moved to become a PtP service :(

I wish they would have kept it free.

pumbaa
12-08-2004, 03:30 AM
I played SO much Phantasy Star Online on the DC when it first came out. To this day I break out the DC and play Bangaio and Armada and Soul Calibur. Also, Powerstone is still so much fun! Its sad that Bangaio wasnt more popular...its a really amazing game.

I had at least 350 hrs. on PSO... oh... and I still have Bangai-o... is that valuable?

pumbaa
12-08-2004, 03:31 AM
lest we forget... perhaps the funnest party game of all time... SAMBA DE AMIGO... I think that game was the highlight of about 4 of my parties (and with NORMAL people even!)

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:34 AM
lest we forget... perhaps the funnest party game of all time... SAMBA DE AMIGO... I think that game was the highlight of about 4 of my parties (and with NORMAL people even!)

The East got Samba De Amigo 2000, which we never got over in the states :(

I wish we would have gotten some more titles over here for the DC instead of 10 different wrestling games.

Gameboy415
12-08-2004, 03:40 AM
God damn I love Dreamcast. And so did everyone else......for a time.

But I remember back when it first came out, all the EB/Gamestop guys wouldn't stop talking about it. Just a few months later, when PS2 was announced, I actually had employees LAUGH at me for buying Dreamcast games over "SUPERIOR" PS2 games. I'm talking about the same people I would excitedly talk to about the latest DC games, now laughing at me for supporting the system.
But lets get one thing straight, I do love my PS2.

NOW.

At launch and for about a year after, PS2 fucking sucked hard and sat and collected dust when I wasn't using it to play PS1 RPGs. I swear Sony paid off employees to hype their catbox and drive Sega into the ground. Its really a damn shame.

Anywho, Samba De Amigo is amazing, as are the power stone games, Bangai-O, Soul Cal, and all the Capcom and SNK fighters that graced the little white box. And I don't care what anyone says, I LOVED Sonic Adventure 1 & 2.
I <3 SEGA, and I <3 Sonic even more.

guyver2077
12-08-2004, 03:44 AM
PSO was my favorite game as well...i put 300+ plus hours into v1 alone

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:48 AM
The one thing that hasn't aged well with the system is the racing games. I can still go back and play Rage Racer or something for the PS1 if I'm really bored, but I have no desire to break out Metropolis Street Racer or even Daytona USA.

Speaking of Daytona USA where is a sequel?

projecteightysix
12-08-2004, 03:51 AM
Does the dreamcast still go online? like could i play PSO 1 or 2? i heard theres a no pay crack (for 2)you can get on pro action replay... but are the servers still up?

kristianator
12-08-2004, 03:52 AM
game store employees laughed at me too for buying a used dreamcast instead of a ps2.

now we'll see who's laughing!


oh wait... it's still them.

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 03:54 AM
Does the dreamcast still go online? like could i play PSO 1 or 2? i heard theres a no pay crack (for 2)you can get on pro action replay... but are the servers still up?

I think all the servers have been shut down by now.

guyver2077
12-08-2004, 03:54 AM
Does the dreamcast still go online? like could i play PSO 1 or 2? i heard theres a no pay crack (for 2)you can get on pro action replay... but are the servers still up?

well us pso has been down for quite some time.....some game slike quake 3 still work..

opportunity777
12-08-2004, 04:00 AM
Does the dreamcast still go online? like could i play PSO 1 or 2? i heard theres a no pay crack (for 2)you can get on pro action replay... but are the servers still up?

well us pso has been down for quite some time.....some game slike quake 3 still work..

Unreal Tournament should work too then. I wonder if anyone ever played Speed Devils Online over the net?

snotnose_colossal
12-08-2004, 12:47 PM
some guy has his own PSO now.

http://schtserv.funurl.com./

sblymnlcrymnl
12-09-2004, 01:12 AM
Where's zionoverfire? He's a huge fan of the Dreamcast ;)

Are you trying to mock my beloved dreamcast?

You and sblymnl are not human :P

Who, me?

I loves me some hot DC action. :twisted:

Strider Turbulence
12-09-2004, 10:31 AM
I have a couple of DC systems and while I enjoyed most of the games (for a while at least), I wasn't as smitten on them as most others were. To be honest it was one my least favorite sega systems.

alongx
12-09-2004, 10:35 AM
I think I should fire up my DC now before I go to class. I love that sucker. Still have the most DC games (somthing like 45...)

Grave_Addiction
12-09-2004, 01:13 PM
I think I may be one of the biggest Dreamcast fanboys of all time.

I started a dorky-ass site about it for Pete's sake!

The Dreamcast has some of the best games of all time on the console. It has something great for every genre.

You guys are forgetting Chu Chu Rocket! That game is simple, yet amazing.

I would give both my nads to have seen the Dreamcast succeed and still be going strong today.

Wshakspear
12-09-2004, 01:28 PM
PSO, Shenmue, Jet Grind Radio, MSR (PGR1), SA1, SA2, Rush 2049 (Best. Multiplayer. Racer. EVER.), Skies of Arcadia, Seaman, StreetFighter: III, Soul Calibur, Grandia 2, Samba, VMU Chao, Ikaruga, Shenmue 2, Crazy Taxi, Rayman 2, Test Drive Le Mans (still amazing), MvsC2, PSO, Tokyo Xtreme Racer 2, PowerStone 2, and a sports series so good even i picked them up.

I know some of these were released on other platforms either at the same time or even later...but DC did them best.

if those werent enough reasons to own a DC, the amount of modding possible should seal the deal. My favorite mod involved a DC that got hooked up and hidden in a buisness network and sent confidential documents elsewhere. EVIL DC :twisted:

bfg9k
12-09-2004, 01:29 PM
One of the best things about the DC was the launch price of $200. Because of that and Soul Calibur, it is the only console I ever preordered.

Grave_Addiction
12-09-2004, 01:42 PM
if those werent enough reasons to own a DC, the amount of modding possible should seal the deal. My favorite mod involved a DC that got hooked up and hidden in a buisness network and sent confidential documents elsewhere. EVIL DC :twisted:

Yeah, I heard about that. Apparently, they were able to hide it up in the ceiling and got all sorts of cool stuff from it.

Othergods
12-09-2004, 01:48 PM
It truly was a great system, to bad the Piracy was rampant and helped in its demise....

Morrigan Lover
12-09-2004, 01:52 PM
Best Resident Evil game to date: Check
Best Fighting Game(SC) to date: Check
Best JRPG this gen(Grandia II): Check

I miss the DC, and i went jobless in 2001 or else i would have supported it legally.

correction:

Best Fighting Game (SFIII: 3rd Strike) to date: Check

correction:

Best Fighting Game (MK:GOLD) to date: Check

correction:

Best Fighting Game (Vampire Chronicles) to date: Check

GTZ_NSR
12-09-2004, 01:57 PM
It's a great console, with only a few crap games. Am I the only person who thought JGR sucked? If it weren't for the craptacular controls, I would've liked it. It kind of surprised me when I first got my DC how good the majority of the games are. Sure the DC sucks when it comes to durability and reliability, but there aren't many other systems that has as many fun and original games.

DrunkTigerWoods
12-09-2004, 02:07 PM
DC was the only system I ever got at launch. It did become my party system of choice with power stone 2, MvsC2, and virtua tennis. I also spent many hours with PSO, shenmue, and RE:CV. I loved sonic adventure, but i thought the sequal was crap. A magicial system, it will never die.

BustaUppa
12-09-2004, 02:42 PM
I must admit - I was a hater. I mocked the DC when it first came out, and made nerdy jokes about it whenever I could. But as I matured somewhat, I gradually noticed that a lot of key games that I wanted were showing up on that system. Lots of fighters that I loved had sequels that were DC exclusive. So while I was actively enjoying my PSX, I could only salivate from afar over games like Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Street Fighter 3, and MK Gold (yes, MK Gold :P ). Then there were cool games like PowerStone and Chu Chu Rocket and Jet Grind Radio - I had no experience with these, but they just looked so cool and interesting to me.

Late in 2001, shortly after the DC pretty much became a non-factor in the US, I finally made the jump. I was going through a tough breakup, so I decided to fill that hottie-shaped hole in my life by finally going ahead and playing all those games I had been lusting after for so long. The first step, naturally, was to buy the Dreamcast. I scoured eBay, eventually winning a $85 bid for a DC unit, with Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Shenmue included. Back then, I think that was a damn good deal, especially considering the relative scarcity of MvC2 at the time.

So finally I started getting all those sequels I wanted, as well as branching out and picking up some unfamiliar titles that I had heard good things about. And it ended up being a great journey of discovery for me as a gamer. Keep in mind that late-2001 was probably the absolute BEST time to be buying cheap Dreamcast games. It was the period of time where game stores were starting to really slash prices on their DC inventory, but a lot of games that are rare now were still pretty easy to find. Oh man, it was sweet... so many gems, so many frigging BARGAINS. To this day, the most I ever paid for a Dreamcast game was twenty-four bucks, and that was for a brand-new copy of Street Fighter III: Third Strike (from Wal-Mart, of all places). In fact, I think that's the only DC game I ever paid more than $20 for (but it was so, SO worth it).

That year, the DC would become a beloved addition to the college apartment. Popping a CD in the stereo and playing Worms Armageddon became the perfect way to lounge around with friends... Rotating 4-player games of Virtua Tennis and San Fransisco Rush dominated many a Saturday night... Chu Chu Rocket confused the crowds, but always ended up winning them over... NFL 2K with the roommate became an intense ongoing rivalry (and I don't even care for football)... Unreal Tournament became an addiction... MARATHON sessions of Soul Calibur became commonplace between my best friend and I (there's actually a pic of us playing it in the yearbook from that year)... then there's games like Bomberman and Sega Swirl that just continued the tradition of multiplayer goodness. There were plenty of other games I enjoyed, but the ones mentioned above were the real "crowd favorites." SO many good memories with that console, and for me all that came after the console was, for all intents and purposes, "dead."

Then about a year later my friend points me out to DCemulation.com. Oh man. My friend and I were stoked when we got NES games running on there. You have no idea, people at school were AMAZED when they saw that. Off the top of my head I can think of at least four people I know who went ahead and bought Dreamcasts after seeing some of the homebrew/emulation stuff. Somewhat ironic that a defect exploited by priates ended up selling systems. In any case, I am happy to have helped share the joy of Dreamcast goodness.

I'm gonna run to the bathroom and cry now. :cry: But not tears of mourning, but rather tears of JOY, and of fond memories - for this is a tale of life brought about after death! :D

hiccupleftovers
12-09-2004, 05:25 PM
The DC is one of the few systems that I picked up on the day of its release. There are so many good games for that system and so few bad ones, IMO. It had a sports series that I actually cared for how good it was. It had the fighters, some RPGS (not to many but if it had continued could have had so much more), the multiplayer games, etc. It was one of the few systems that just had everything you wanted and not tons of crap to wade through to get to it.

cheapass Gundam
12-09-2004, 05:35 PM
GOD why did the DC fail?!!?

Sega of America focused too much on action and sports games, competing directly with Sony instead of allowing more releases of their Japanese/niche titles. The system survived for quite a while after its US demise thanks to third party publishers and fan support.

BustaUppa
12-09-2004, 05:38 PM
At a time in which consoles were on the verge of truly becoming mainstream, the Dreamcast was a GAMER's system.

Practically anachronistic... I think the timing is what really did it in.

KingDox
12-09-2004, 05:47 PM
I am a true DC fanboy, I got my PAL copy of Shenmue 2 and my pal copy of REZ & Headhunter. It was so easy to import games with the dc, all you needed was a boot disk.

It's still my favorite console, it had mouse, Keyboard, arcade stick, twin sticks, marracca, lightgun, panther DX, fishing controller, & steering wheel support.

I hope I am not the only one in this thrad that is able to see the DC in all it's glory thanks to a VGA box. Soul Calibur and that VGA box has & still does turn alot of heads.

I think there are still guys creating mods for Fire Pro D.

GuilewasNK
12-09-2004, 06:12 PM
GOD why did the DC fail?!!?

Sega of America focused too much on action and sports games, competing directly with Sony instead of allowing more releases of their Japanese/niche titles. The system survived for quite a while after its US demise thanks to third party publishers and fan support.

The only reason the DC failed is because Sega couldn't afford to manufacture hardware anymore. The system WAS successful before that. The focus on sports is what made it successful. It is the mainstream titles that made the system popular. Focusing solely on Japanese/niche titles may have seemed like a good idea but look at Sega now. The only bonafide hits they have are their Sega Sports lineups. Not Shinobi, not Nightshade, not Panzer Dragoon Orta. NFL 2K did for Sega what Madden did for PS2. It moved more systems than any other game. The main reason it survived as long as it did was due to the online games they had. Sony hadn't released their Network Adapter yet and Xbox Live was nothing at the time. Online Sega Sports, PSO, Quake III, UT really kept the system alive for awhile.

Anyway, I still love my DC. I still play Marvel vs. Capcom 2 a lot. I also love Virtua Tennis 2 (although Top Spin is vastly superior). But the main reason I love this system is for one game....

http://gr.bolt.com/games/dreamcast/action/project_justice2.jpg

That game kicks every form of ass that exists....

Nerdy
12-12-2004, 02:10 AM
I'm glad to see so many of my favorite DC games being listed , here are my 2 cents.

Mars Matrix
Gigawing 2
Gunbird 2
Ikaruga
Cannon Spike
Samba De Amigo (I have v2000, but my knockoff SAMBA FANS maracas don't work with them)
PSO
MS Gundam- Federation Vs Zeon DX (the last Import game I bought)
Typing of the Dead
Sonic Adventure
MVC2
Cap Vs SNK 2
SF3
Rent a Hero No 1 (worth it just for the opening sequence)
Crazy Taxi
All the Sega Fishing games (with the fishing rod controller, that has thrown me out of more than one chair :oops: )
Cosmic Smash
REZ

and the greatest game to ever bless the home entertainment market
BLUE STINGER!!!!!!!one

Ok just kidding about the Blue Stinger, but I did pay full price for that at launch, and at the time it looked great.

Parathod
12-12-2004, 04:03 AM
There's something about the Dreamcast and the Gamecube that remind me of each other. They both seem to have similiar bright sharp graphics with more a more arcade type fun experience.

It sucks that Sega split it's properties up between 3 systems (plus portables). It's a pain in the ass for their long time supporters and it's even more screwed up when they move one series to one console (Sega Rally for Xbox) then put it's next suquel on another (PS2).

zewone
12-12-2004, 04:12 AM
Best Resident Evil game to date: Check
Best Fighting Game(SC) to date: Check
Best JRPG this gen(Grandia II): Check

I miss the DC, and i went jobless in 2001 or else i would have supported it legally.

correction:

Best Fighting Game (SFIII: 3rd Strike) to date: Check

correction:

Best Fighting Game (MK:GOLD) to date: Check

he had it right the first time. And yeah, I love the DC. I bought two. One when it was released and another when it was $10 at eb.

bmulligan
12-12-2004, 04:13 AM
At a time in which consoles were on the verge of truly becoming mainstream, the Dreamcast was a GAMER's system.

Practically anachronistic... I think the timing is what really did it in.

You're not the first person I've heard say it so don't feel like I'm picking on you, please, but what the fuck does this mean? a GAMER'S system? Aren't they all GAMER'S systems ? They're all GAME systems, right ? In fact, their primary function is to play GAMES. I mean, is the Xbox an ass picker's system? the cube a fart smeller's system ?

In case you haven't checked lately, gaming IS mainstream and has been for years. They are neck and neck with the recording and movie industry. Please don't tell me you think you're unique and have your own little niche because you dont. Any game that passes over your hot little hands does so becuase it has mass appeal, not because it was made specially for your hardcore geekyness.

BustaUppa
12-14-2004, 12:48 PM
At a time in which consoles were on the verge of truly becoming mainstream, the Dreamcast was a GAMER's system.

Practically anachronistic... I think the timing is what really did it in.

You're not the first person I've heard say it so don't feel like I'm picking on you, please, but what the shaq-fu does this mean? a GAMER'S system? Aren't they all GAMER'S systems ? They're all GAME systems, right ? In fact, their primary function is to play GAMES. I mean, is the Xbox an ass picker's system? the cube a fart smeller's system ?

In case you haven't checked lately, gaming IS mainstream and has been for years. They are neck and neck with the recording and movie industry. Please don't tell me you think you're unique and have your own little niche because you dont. Any game that passes over your hot little hands does so becuase it has mass appeal, not because it was made specially for your hardcore geekyness.
Dude, you're talking to a guy who blasted the DC when it first came out. So to an extent I can understand what you're saying. But I think in retrospect it's easy to look back and see distinct differences between the DC audience and, say, the XBOX audience. I'm a proud owner of all four consoles in this generation, so there's no fanboyism going into these opinions here. There are defininitely different types of gamers... this isn't some elitist judgment, it's just the way it is. I have known plenty of gamers who own a PS1 and a few sports games, and that's it. Yet here we are reminscing about Dreamcast and we're bringing up Sambe de Amigo and frigging Chu Chu Rocket and all these obscure fighters and what have you. The hardcore gamers are everywhere, but there's a relatively high-percentage of those types among the DC gamers; especially those who STILL own a Dreamcast.

Dreamcast and PS2 had a noticeable contrast. With PS2 the timing was perfect... DVD was hitting it huge right around then, so for many people that alone made them jump to the PS2. Dreamcast pioneered online gaming but that wasn't enough to hold the attention of the mainstrem populace. DC would fade into obscurity, while PS2 went on to sell like crazy and get mentioned in rap videos.

If you don't see it that way, then fine. No need to get hostile.

Ahmad
03-02-2005, 05:11 AM
DREAMCAST - THE LEGEND WILL NEVER DIE !!

onikage
03-02-2005, 05:40 AM
I still use my DC a lot, mostly for playing NES games w/o having to keep the NES & games out of storage. :wink: I also have been trying to complete Skies of Arcadia, which I put down a couple years ago after getting about half-way through.

megashock5
03-02-2005, 05:45 PM
The only hardcore launch I've ever taken part in. System, extra controller, VMU, and 3 games. (Got PS2 three days after launch because my Sony credit card had enough points to reimburse the cost and a couple of free games showed up I work).

I still look back at the Dreamcast launch as the most exciting time in my gaming history (back to the 2600), mainly because my 3 gaming friends all got it too and we had a big launch party. My wife even helped me make orange swirls with icing on white cupcakes.

There were great titles on day one. Power Stone rocked. The intro to Sonic Adventure just made you feel like a new era had dawned. Soul Calibur played amazingly with the analog stick (Soul Blade wasn't analog on PS).

Then later we got stuff like Crazy Taxi, Worms Armageddon, Shenmue, Virtua Tennis, etc. Stupidly, I sold mine DC after they stopped making new games for it. I just got another one, now I just need to track down some of the games. Also trying to find a cheap fishing controller.

I just hope any of the next systems have a launch as great as DC.

Machine
03-02-2005, 05:58 PM
Before 9/9/99 I had a Playstation and about 10 games. Then I bought a DC and had a religious experience. I now have hundreds of games for multiple consoles. Something about the DC aroused a passion for games in me that hasn't died. I still smile thinking about the first time I fired my DC up and play Soul Calibur and Sonic Adventure. Any time I start to wonder about why I love games, I just think about my conversations with my Seaman and it all comes back to me.

Santorum X
03-02-2005, 06:05 PM
I have been ignoring my DC for months now because I have been catching up on playing all the cheap Xbox and PS2 games I have bought over the past year, and as well as XBL. However, I have been playing both Sega Marine and Sega Bass Fishing a lot these couple past days.

CappyCobra
03-02-2005, 06:07 PM
lest we forget... perhaps the funnest party game of all time... SAMBA DE AMIGO... I think that game was the highlight of about 4 of my parties (and with NORMAL people even!)

Ahh that game was classic. It was the only game I could get people to play and they knowingly knew they looked like an ass playing it ;)

Stryffe2004
03-02-2005, 06:08 PM
GOD why did the DC fail?!!?

Sega of America focused too much on action and sports games, competing directly with Sony instead of allowing more releases of their Japanese/niche titles. The system survived for quite a while after its US demise thanks to third party publishers and fan support.

Also, EA did ot support it, so key franchises like Madden were not on there. It came out as the sun was setting on the PS1, but unfortuately, the PS2, with its much hyped backwards compatiablity was on the horizon. Most people I know just wait for the PS2, jsutyfying th wait by saying they would still be able to play all the PS1 games they bought even after the PS2 luanched. For some reason, it seemed like there were less 2-3 sytem owners then.

Me, I bought an import Dreamcast, traded it in for a US Dreamcast, traded that in for an XBOX and then bought 2 more Dreamcasts since then. I still have 2.

mmercer131
03-02-2005, 06:09 PM
Amazingly built too. I play mine all the time and I bought it launch day. Although I have a new one in the box just in case....anyone play Shadowman on it?

CappyCobra
03-02-2005, 06:17 PM
God damn I love Dreamcast. And so did everyone else......for a time.

But I remember back when it first came out, all the EB/Gamestop guys wouldn't stop talking about it. Just a few months later, when PS2 was announced, I actually had employees LAUGH at me for buying Dreamcast games over "SUPERIOR" PS2 games. I'm talking about the same people I would excitedly talk to about the latest DC games, now laughing at me for supporting the system.
But lets get one thing straight, I do love my PS2.

NOW.

At launch and for about a year after, PS2 shaq-fuing sucked hard and sat and collected dust when I wasn't using it to play PS1 RPGs. I swear Sony paid off employees to hype their catbox and drive Sega into the ground. Its really a damn shame.

Anywho, Samba De Amigo is amazing, as are the power stone games, Bangai-O, Soul Cal, and all the Capcom and SNK fighters that graced the little white box. And I don't care what anyone says, I LOVED Sonic Adventure 1 & 2.
I <3 SEGA, and I <3 Sonic even more.

I worked at GameStop at the time and let me tell you, people who were salivating for PS2 to come, shut thier collective piehole when I showed them one game...SOUL CALIBER. I got a diehard Sony(PS1) fan to buy a DC even when he was deadset on getting a PS2. The next week I saw him and he couldn;t stop thanking me for pushing him to get a DC. :D

After the PS2 came out, I laughed at those who came in complaing about the blurryness and jaggies they saw on the PS2. Once again, showed them SOUL CALIBUR. Thier jaws agape, I say 'Why wait for the 'future' when it was already right in front of you?'. Props were given for the DC as the filed in line to purchase one.

Dreamcast was a gamer's system because the games succeeded on thier merits not on thier namesake. Obscure titles won you over with thier gameplay as that was the only way they could reach out to you. Sega didn;t have the big developers making games for them so they reached out to the independant developers and they embraced the system as if it was thier own.

I own a DC (w/ 100+ games) and I'm proud of it. Loved every moment, past, present & future.

CappyCobra
03-02-2005, 06:19 PM
The one thing that hasn't aged well with the system is the racing games. I can still go back and play Rage Racer or something for the PS1 if I'm really bored, but I have no desire to break out Metropolis Street Racer or even Daytona USA.

Speaking of Daytona USA where is a sequel?

RUSH 2049! Hello?!