Why P2P will not die...

[pumbaa]

The recent thread on P2P mad eme want to share this...

I go to the good ol' University of Florida, and here we poineered a program called ICARUS (click this for more info. http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/digitalmedia/Icarus%20at%20UF.htm)

Basically it cuts off all access to P2P programs, you get your internet cut off for connecting to any form of P2P. So here I sat for a good year and a half, downloading music only when I was home... borrowing CD's from friends and ripping them to my iPod... and (gasp!) actually buying a few albums off of iTunes. Then it happened.

Word started spreading about the itunes sharing feature, which allowed you to stream other peoples shared music (but not download it). It was legal, and most importantly enclosed. You could only get music from the people in you building. So now we were limited to streaming... for about a week. someone figured out that there was a program called mytunes that allowed you to take the list of the streams and download the music directly to you system. It's blazingly fast, because its all within the same network.

Now theres at any given time at least 40,000 songs available to download. No dead links, no searching (instant search results). It secure (because its all within the network... it would work without internet access). And most importantly, its all different types of music. I actually prefer it to Kazaa or other types of P2P... its more secure and it has a real sense of community to it.

Our generation has GROWN UP with free music downloads. Its not going to stop. We will find ways to do it, and its going to happen. The RIAA is just going to have to deal with it, or find a different way of doing business.

[suko_32]

Wait, you go to UF? Cause I'm going there...

[CapAmerica]

lol when I first saw this title I thought it was
"Why PSP will not die..." =P

I agree P2P will never die, we will find ways around these digital walls. all that this shit that is happening right now is doing is pushing people to make better P2P software.

Long Live P2P

[alonzomourning23]

Also, it's p2p sharing is legal in canada. It may die everywhere else, but not in canada. The supreme court even ruled on it.

[Moxio]

Interesting read....

[Scorch]

P2P won't die because there's no centralized server.

[smellhasreturned]

lol when I first saw this title I thought it was
"Why PSP will not die..." =P

I agree P2P will never die, we will find ways around these digital walls. all that this shit that is happening right now is doing is pushing people to make better P2P software.

Long Live P2P

i thought i read the same thing

[greydemise]

P2P won't die because there's no centralized server.

thats prolly gotta be the best and more simple reason behind it all..thumbs up
plus, if u can do it, y stop

[camoor]

Keep sharing kids! Copyright law is broken, send a message that you're not going to be a tool of the Man!

[guyver2077]

keep the porn flowing!

[thasturg]

The recent thread on P2P mad eme want to share this...

I go to the good ol' University of Florida

Go Dawgs

[thatstoobad]

too bad you can't download that feeling you get when you buy that new cd you've been wanting for a while, unwrap it and pop it into the player for the first time.

i mean, i don't have a problem with people downloading stuff. i just don't get why so many people are actually against buying cds that they enjoy. and we don't need anyone responding with "bands don't make money on cds blah blah blah music labels are evil" because that isn't always the case, but more importantly it's not really what i'm talking about. i mean, the way i see it, if something isn't good enough for me to buy, then it isn't really good enough for me to be listening to.

[camoor]

too bad you can't download that feeling you get when you buy that new cd you've been wanting for a while, unwrap it and pop it into the player for the first time.

i mean, i don't have a problem with people downloading stuff. i just don't get why so many people are actually against buying cds that they enjoy. and we don't need anyone responding with "bands don't make money on cds blah blah blah music labels are evil" because that isn't always the case, but more importantly it's not really what i'm talking about. i mean, the way i see it, if something isn't good enough for me to buy, then it isn't really good enough for me to be listening to.

FAtal flaw in your arguement: the RIAA is evil. And bands dont make significant money on their CDs.

[alonzomourning23]

too bad you can't download that feeling you get when you buy that new cd you've been wanting for a while, unwrap it and pop it into the player for the first time.

i mean, i don't have a problem with people downloading stuff. i just don't get why so many people are actually against buying cds that they enjoy. and we don't need anyone responding with "bands don't make money on cds blah blah blah music labels are evil" because that isn't always the case, but more importantly it's not really what i'm talking about. i mean, the way i see it, if something isn't good enough for me to buy, then it isn't really good enough for me to be listening to.

FAtal flaw in your arguement: the RIAA is evil. And bands dont make significant money on their CDs.

They don't make a lot per cd, but they wouldn't be around to make cd's if people did buy them. The little bit adds up to enough money to keep the bands around.

[thatstoobad]

too bad you can't download that feeling you get when you buy that new cd you've been wanting for a while, unwrap it and pop it into the player for the first time.

i mean, i don't have a problem with people downloading stuff. i just don't get why so many people are actually against buying cds that they enjoy. and we don't need anyone responding with "bands don't make money on cds blah blah blah music labels are evil" because that isn't always the case, but more importantly it's not really what i'm talking about. i mean, the way i see it, if something isn't good enough for me to buy, then it isn't really good enough for me to be listening to.

FAtal flaw in your arguement: the RIAA is evil. And bands dont make significant money on their CDs.

i really hope that comment is a joke, and if it isn't maybe you should reread what i wrote.

if it wasn't a joke, you realize i wasn't making an argument for anything, right? i'm just mentioning that i don't understand why many people don't get excited anymore about buying a new cd that they have been looking forward to. instead they just download it. and just so you don't throw out the"ITS BECUZ ITS TEH RIAA" we'll say the cd is on dischord, which isn't affiliated with the riaa, but again, that's not really the point.

[guardian_owl]

I thought this was going to be about how Pay to Play will never die.

[pumbaa]

lol... so weve got Pay to Play and Playstation Portable. Any other misunderstandings?

[guardian_owl]

lol... so weve got Pay to Play and Playstation Portable. Any other misunderstandings?I was thinking more along the lines of monthly fees for things like MMORPGs.

[Moxio]

lol... so weve got Pay to Play and Playstation Portable. Any other misunderstandings?I was thinking more along the lines of monthly fees for things like MMORPGs.

Pay to Play is a valid excuse, but how did that get PSP out of P2P? Whatever. o_O

[Gothic Walrus]

too bad you can't download that feeling you get when you buy that new cd you've been wanting for a while, unwrap it and pop it into the player for the first time.

i mean, i don't have a problem with people downloading stuff. i just don't get why so many people are actually against buying cds that they enjoy. and we don't need anyone responding with "bands don't make money on cds blah blah blah music labels are evil" because that isn't always the case, but more importantly it's not really what i'm talking about. i mean, the way i see it, if something isn't good enough for me to buy, then it isn't really good enough for me to be listening to.

I can only speak for myself, but I'm not against buying CDs. I just can't afford them and I don't think they're worth what they're sold for in the first place.

As far as the "money for RIAA" goes...screw them. We don't need them. Groups CAN always record their work independently and sell it online, hopefully for a much lower price. Why give the money to the industry when we can send it straight to the artist instead?

[lionheart4life]

That's pretty cool to know about Itunes. I wonder if all schools networks have no way of restricting this.

[pumbaa]

That's pretty cool to know about Itunes. I wonder if all schools networks have no way of restricting this.

Well, I'm assuming all thats happening is a transfer of files through the network. Thats why its so fast. Unless they just don't allow ANY files to be transfered across the network... there shouldn't be a way of blocking it. IT just all a matter of getting content... ie... getting the word out that this exists and having people stay on iTunes to share their music.

[bignick]

Once you learn to use newsgroups, you will never use a P2P program ever again.

[Moxio]

Once you learn to use newsgroups, you will never use a P2P program ever again.

I was wondering if you could show me how?

I've been trying to find out how to use it, but I haven't found anything good.

I think someone told me I could use my ISP's Newsgroups, but what do I do from there?