what is the rarest sega dreamcast game?

[NesHavok]

Rarest sega dreamcast game? and how much does it sell for?

[xenoman80]

i dont remember clearly but i heard it was aero wing 1 or 2, seen it 4 like 12$ in my local store but just dont want it

[Indiana]

I read that it was Qbert... we are talking rarest US Dreamcast game right?

[Lexicon]

Probably the Limited Edition of Sonic Adventure only at Hollywood Video.

[greydemise]

there was an LE sonic adventure?

[Survivor Charlie]

Probably the Limited Edition of Sonic Adventure only at Hollywood Video.

That is the most rare US game. That said, no US game is truly rare. In terms of hard to find, Sonic LE, Aerowings 2, Kao the Kangeroo, Sega Bass Fishing 2, and ECW Anarchy Rulz are pretty difficult. The game with the lowest total of games shipped is I-Spy, and that isn't *rare* by any defenition. And it certainly isn't worth money.

[rawer]

Midway's Greatest Arcade Hits Vol. 2
(Moon Patrol, 720, Rampage, Spy Hunter, Gauntlet, and Paperboy)

[hiccupleftovers]

there was an LE sonic adventure?

I didn't know they made one either. What was so limited about it? Was there all kinds of extra stuff or just a snazzy box?

Aren't games like Bangai-O, Grandia 1/2, Mars Matrix, Marvel versus Capcom 2, and Skies of Arcadia supposed to be pretty hard to find to rare? Maybe not Skies of Arcadia anymore since it was released on the GCn and then re-released so demand for it has waned a little meaning lower prices.

[PimpBot2000]

I have no idea what the rarest DC game is, but a few I hardly ever see out in the wild are: Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves, Cannon Spike, Street Fighter III 3rd Strike, and Mars Matrix.

[Survivor Charlie]

I didn't know they made one either. What was so limited about it? Was there all kinds of extra stuff or just a snazzy box?

Extras? Snazy box? No and no... Sonic LE is a glorified demo disc. From Digital Press...

"This is an incomplete, rental version of Sonic Adventure adapted from the Japanese version of the game. Internet features and memory card saving is disabled. It debuted at the Hollywood Video chain nearly two months before the Dreamcast launched, and later appeared in store kiosk kits."

If you're a collector, it will likely be the only US Dreamcast game that has a value of $100, but it's just not worth it for a demo IMO. If you want to collect the hard to find games, go with the ones I listed above. Oh, and Bangai O. Don't forget that.

[j.elles]

Record of Lodoss Was is fairly hard to find. I know it took be forever when I was looking for it a couple years ago.

[Mr Unoriginal]

This makes me sad about the passing of the Dreamcast. Such an amazing line up of games.

[acrimonious1]

Half-life. It never got released, but there are bootleg coopies of it floating around.

[argyle]

I've been looking for a copy of Justice League in good shape, but that seems somewhat hard to find. Of course, I'm sure I could snag a copy off of Ebay, I've just been looking locally.

[GuilewasNK]

I've been looking for a copy of Justice League in good shape, but that seems somewhat hard to find. Of course, I'm sure I could snag a copy off of Ebay, I've just been looking locally.

A Justice League game? Are you sure you don't mean Project Justice?

[Scorch]

Anarchy Rulz is hard to find? Sweet, I have that on DC! I didn't know it was hard to find.

[guyver2077]

yea i have anarchy rulz as well.. i remember i had to order it online when it came out because i couldnt find it at stores....i think mine came a lil buggy though

[Scorch]

yea i have anarchy rulz as well.. i remember i had to order it online when it came out because i couldnt find it at stores....i think mine came a lil buggy though

Nah, that's just the game. I picked it up for like 8 bucks used and complete at EB a looooooooooong time ago because I wanted an ECW game.. Actually, I may have bought it new for that cheap from somewhere.. anyways. Yeah, the game's pretty much a trainwreck, nearly a clone of WWF Attitude.. I got my WWF Attitude instruction book autographed by both Hardy's.. sort of a nod to them for doing motion capture work for it..

[Scorch]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8160243 784&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V

BIN for $5.. doesn't seem rare.

[guyver2077]

yea i have anarchy rulz as well.. i remember i had to order it online when it came out because i couldnt find it at stores....i think mine came a lil buggy though

Nah, that's just the game. I picked it up for like 8 bucks used and complete at EB a looooooooooong time ago because I wanted an ECW game.. Actually, I may have bought it new for that cheap from somewhere.. anyways. Yeah, the game's pretty much a trainwreck, nearly a clone of WWF Attitude.. I got my WWF Attitude instruction book autographed by both Hardy's.. sort of a nod to them for doing motion capture work for it..

well the thing is i actually had rented it for ps since it came out on there before it did on dc. i kinda liked it on ps only graphics and loading were the problems.

i was hoping the dc version would fix it and i think it did look a lot sharper and nicer it just my version glitches out alot with the audience etc. and the crowd isnt as alive as it is on ps. i think its my copy

[Scorch]

wtf.. you realize that a "glitch" is in the game itself and not the cd, right? If the CD skips, that's a problem.. but if the audience is glitchy.. lol it's not your cd, it's the programming in the game..

[Survivor Charlie]

BIN for $5.. doesn't seem rare.

Again, you make the mistake of lumping "worth money" and "rare" together. A rare game is not neccesarly worth money, and a game worth a lot of money is not neccesarly rare. I would also like to point out that with the exception of Sonic LE (which I don't consider to be a real game, rather a label variation/demo), NO Dreamcast game is rare. If a person sat out to achieve a complete collection of Sega Dreamcast games, they would be limited only by their desire to put it together. Finding all 251 US Dreamcast games would not be a problem. Nothing on it is rare by any definition.

[argyle]

I've been looking for a copy of Justice League in good shape, but that seems somewhat hard to find. Of course, I'm sure I could snag a copy off of Ebay, I've just been looking locally.

A Justice League game? Are you sure you don't mean Project Justice?

Doh, yea, that's what I meant. Actually, I know the series best by its Japanese name, Rival Schools (which makes a lot more sense imo). I just can't get used to the Americanized title.

If a person sat out to achieve a complete collection of Sega Dreamcast games, they would be limited only by their desire to put it together. Finding all 251 US Dreamcast games would not be a problem.

Hrmmm...now that sounds like an interesting task to take on. :)

[j.elles]

Well I agree, but the dreamcast is by no means a hated system. Therefore any game that has a limited amount of copies will become valuable soon. A complete copy of Record of Loddoss War goes for 30-60. That makes it vuluable, and rare. At least in my opinion. Scary rare is that Gold nintendo cartridge from that contest that goes for an obsene amount of cash.

[snotnose_colossal]

asnt there an ebay auction a few months ago where someone was selling every american DC?

[ViolentLee]

How about the Dreamcast game (supposedly) based on the Japanese film version of The Ring? That one's tough to find, though I hear it's crap. http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&SQL=GIH||||25010

Illbleed is also pretty rare. It's a really weird survival horror game: http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&SQL=GIH||||24919

I agree with Record of Lodoss War being rare.

[Gameboy415]

How about the Dreamcast game (supposedly) based on the Japanese film version of The Ring? That one's tough to find, though I hear it's crap. http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&SQL=GIH||||25010

Illbleed is also pretty rare. It's a really weird survival horror game: http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&SQL=GIH||||24919

I agree with Record of Lodoss War being rare.

Got all 3 of those for under $15 a few years back.

The Ring game is pretty "eh", still haven't actually played Illbleed, but I hear good things, and Record of Lodoss War was pretty fun for a few hours.

[Mr. Anderson]

How about the Dreamcast game (supposedly) based on the Japanese film version of The Ring? That one's tough to find, though I hear it's crap. http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&SQL=GIH||||25010

Illbleed is also pretty rare. It's a really weird survival horror game: http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&SQL=GIH||||24919

I agree with Record of Lodoss War being rare.

Got all 3 of those for under $15 a few years back.

The Ring game is pretty "eh", still haven't actually played Illbleed, but I hear good things, and Record of Lodoss War was pretty fun for a few hours.

I've never seen Lodoss War, but I see The Ring and Illbleed almost whenever I see a place with DC games.

[CantB76]

I heard some guy spent over 1000 on one of the few master gd-rom Propellar Arenas. Thats how it got into circulation, not that I know anything about that of course.

[CantB76]

Also the broadband adaptor is a pretty rare accessory

[Mike23]

I heard some guy spent over 1000 on one of the few master gd-rom Propellar Arenas. Thats how it got into circulation, not that I know anything about that of course.

That's exactly what happened, then was distributed around the Torrent network until the recent lawsuits. I've played it and it is awesome, but I can see why it was cancelled.

Rare: MvC2, Record of Lodoss War, Illbleed, D2.

[Milkyman]

what about seaman and typing of the dead? they seem pretty obscure

[tehfomar]

Lodoss is a really fun game actually, I bought it at Wal-Mart for $30 shortly after it came out... Put about 30+ hours into it but didnt finish... it gets damn hard towards the end...

"The Ring" is not rare or hard to find, I bought it for $4 about 2 months ago... Also bought "Typing of the Dead" for $5 a couple months ago... Seaman is not rare either...

But like Survivor Charlie has said several times, there are no rare US Dreamcast Games...

[argyle]

what about seaman and typing of the dead? they seem pretty obscure

I picked up Typing of the Dead for $3 from TRU just the other day. I used to see Seaman a lot, but haven't paid attention lately. I will say that that's one game I wouldn't buy used, because someone else has probably slobbered all over the mic before they traded it in. :puke:

And yea, the broadband adapter is fairly rare, since the only way to get it was to order it directly from Sega. I picked one up from a friend's roommate who wasn't using it anymore. About the only thing it's good for now is web browsing & collecting tho. ;)

[ViolentLee]

I really want to pick up a copy of Seaman with the microphone. They're tough to find. I may just buy it off eBay with no mic, then gank the mic from a copy of Alien Front (which is much cheaper).

How about Ooga Booga? Haven't heard that mentioned yet. Floigan Bros.? Always wanted to check that out.

[j.elles]

Soul Calibur isn't exactly rare, but ebay and half 15 complete is lowest, and used at any store it's still $20-30. And Seamen maily I think because of Mr. Nemoy aka Spock is the reason so many people want or love the game.

[opportunity777]

IMO rare in this circumstance means if you can find it NEW & SEALED or not ... otherwise no game is rare for the most part and can be bought used readily.

[j.elles]

Not all... I can think of a dozen old games I've looked for and not been able to turn up a single copy. Some old s-nintendo RPG's are rare for just the cartridge for example.

[kristianator]

not sure if it's rare or not but i had a hard time trying to get a hold of a street fighter 3 third strike without paying at the very least 30-35 dollars...

[SenorWooSuavA]

I haven't seen a copy of Bangai-O in years....that should be pretty rare in itself.

[pumbaa]

I have Bangai-O, bought it used at Eb a while ago for 14.99. The disc is in great shape. Damn, I didn't realize this was "rare".

[Survivor Charlie]

Wait 10 years and then you'll know which games are truly 'rare' for the dreamcast. Right now I would say any game that's hard to find falls into the catagory of 'scarce.' If you're making an investment, then I would bet on Bangai O, ECW Anarchy Rulz, Kao the Kangeroo, I-Spy, Street Fighter 3, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, the Bleemcast discs, and of course, Sonic LE.

[levi333]

Powerstone 2 is semi rare.
All these games are even more rare complete.

[Rozz]

Why are most of the PSOne games complete used and the Dreamcast games arent, even at rental stores like Hollywood Video?

[ViolentLee]

Wait 10 years and then you'll know which games are truly 'rare' for the dreamcast. Right now I would say any game that's hard to find falls into the catagory of 'scarce.' If you're making an investment, then I would bet on Bangai O, ECW Anarchy Rulz, Kao the Kangeroo, I-Spy, Street Fighter 3, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, the Bleemcast discs, and of course, Sonic LE.

Been looking for I-Spy for a while. Its weird full name makes it tough to search for, and I don't believe many were made. I previewed it at gameinformer.com years ago, but that's the last I heard of it.

I personally don't believe anyone will ever care about the ECW game. Does anyone care about WCW for NES?

[glass joe]

the most valuable games, and for that reason the rarest, are pretty much Gigawing 2, Last Blade 2, Power Stone 2, Fatal Fury Mark of the Wolves, Project Justice.

If it sells for 5 bucks, and no one wants it, its easy to find, and isnt going to be rare in the "cant friggin get it" sense that power stone 2 is.

[Josef]

Last Blade 2 is getting pretty hard to find now.

I haven't seen Mr. Driller in a while either.

I remember reading somewhere that Urban Chaos was limited to 5000 copies released but I could be wrong about that.

[j.elles]

Maybe I'm wrong but games usually need to be fun or popular, continued later and becomes a hit, based on a popular series, Record of lodoss war, Mario, Sonic, etc... to become rare. Also extreme rarity helps. Only given out in a contest for example to be considered rare. That's my opinion, and experience anyway.

[Lord Draconus777]

^^No, a game simply has to have a low production run or market negligence to be rare.

[jousley]

I haven't seen a copy of Bangai-O in years....that should be pretty rare in itself.

I'd have to agree with SenorWooSuavA, Bangai-O Is a game you just never see very often..even when it was released and new. Bangai-O is awesome as well! Get it if you see it.

[Survivor Charlie]

If you guys want to consider production run, then I-Spy had the lowest production run (around 2500 copies) of any US Dreamcast game. Wait ten years, and it will be #1 with a bullet most valuable Dreamcast game. Bangai O had about 5000 copies made, which isn't a lot, obviously.

[ig88vsbobafett]

Where do you guys find the Dreamcst game print runs ?

[dafoomie]

If you guys want to consider production run, then I-Spy had the lowest production run (around 2500 copies) of any US Dreamcast game. Wait ten years, and it will be #1 with a bullet most valuable Dreamcast game. Bangai O had about 5000 copies made, which isn't a lot, obviously.
Are you referring to Industrial Spy: Operation Espionage?

^^No, a game simply has to have a low production run or market negligence to be rare.
Its a combination of low supply and high demand. There are rare games out there that aren't worth anything, because theres no demand, usually because they're horrible games.

[Mike23]

MvC2 seems to be rare, but don't quote me on it.

[evilmax17]

MvC2 seems to be rare, but don't quote me on it.

obligatory

[SEGA128DC]

Midway's Greatest Arcade Hits Vol. 2
(Moon Patrol, 720, Rampage, Spy Hunter, Gauntlet, and Paperboy)

Yeah, I have never seen a copy of Midway's Greatest Arcade Hits Volume 2, brand new factory sealed or used, anywhere...

[GuilewasNK]

Where do you guys find the Dreamcst game print runs ?

I was wondering the same thing. If Bangai-O had that limited of a release I feel lucky then since I have one.

[Survivor Charlie]

I don't know where I originally got the numbers but I have them saved to my PC. I have the shipped numbers, not the sell through ones (some DC games sold less then 1000 copies in the US before being clearanced out. Once games reach that phase of retail, they often don't continue counting). I don't have the numbers of Midway Arcade 2 though... it was a pretty late release. I'm guessing it's only uncommon as before the fall of the Dreamcast I saw tons of copies of it everywhere. However, there is only two active auctions for it right now.

Soul Caliber was the greatest selling DC game, and in fact the only US DC game to sell 1,000,000+ copies. Aroudn 1.25 Million were shipped into the US.

Marvel/Capcom 2 is not rare. (http://search-completed.ebay.com/Dreamcast-Marvel-2_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcatrefZC6QQfisZ2QQfromZR10QQfsooZ 2QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs) 100,000+ copies were shipped, and the value has now dipped under $30. It will continue to devalue, like all other 'false alarm' games.

Bangai O had around 5,000 shipped and it's large volume on Ebay proves it's not very hard to find. A true rarity would rarely, pun intended, show up on Ebay.

Diddo for Industrial Spy. Although it's the lowest produced DC game (2,500 copies or less), it's neither hard to find or valuable on Ebay (http://search-completed.ebay.com/Dreamcast-Spy_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcatrefZC6QQfisZ2QQfromZR10QQfso oZ2QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs ) or in the wild.

On the other hand, Aerowings 2 seldom appears on ebay. There are two active ones going right now (and NO completed ones). With about 5,000 shipped, it's hard to comeby. Snatch it up if you want a good Dreamcast collection (good as in good hard to find, because Aerowings 2 sucks).

ECW Anarchy Rulz shipped about 5,000 at a time when Acclaim was hurting. Once again, you see it all the time, and it's not worth any money.

Here's a funny one: Kao the Kangeroo. Shipped a very quiet 5,000 into the states, and it ended up selling four times that (20,000) in Europe. Many people bought this from Gamestop or EB for $10. It's pretty hard to come by.

One that nobody has mentioned yet is BANG! Gunship Elite. I don't have the shipping info on this one but i will say that only 2 have been on Ebay in the last couple months, and they're going right now. Cheap too.

[Duo_Maxwell]

Suprised no one mentioned the LE of Shenmue, I think there was only like 5000 of those for preorders only or something (and no there aren't many on ebay usually).

[Scorch]

I have the LE version of Shenmue as well, along with ECW Anarchy Rulz (as I mentioned earlier), Seaman and Half-Life.. my LE case of Shenmue broke, and I have no clue where the discs are. *sigh* Maybe i'll find them one day. I guarentee they'll be unplayable, though.

[Survivor Charlie]

Actually around 10,000 so called 'limited edition' Shenmues were shipped.

Chances are if a game is called 'limited edition' it's anything but. Just ask the 500,000 owners of the 'limited gold edition' Zelda Ocarina of Time

[ViolentLee]

Diddo for Industrial Spy. Although it's the lowest produced DC game (2,500 copies or less), it's neither hard to find or valuable on Ebay (http://search-completed.ebay.com/Dreamcast-Spy_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcatrefZC6QQfisZ2QQfromZR10QQfso oZ2QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs ) or in the wild.

Surviror Charlie, I've found your posts so far intriguing, and this link made me a bigger fan of your work. Of course, there's only one auction going at present, and it's at an opening bid of $10 (plus $4 shipping). Guess I'll wait for a better deal.


One that nobody has mentioned yet is BANG! Gunship Elite. I don't have the shipping info on this one but i will say that only 2 have been on Ebay in the last couple months, and they're going right now. Cheap too.

I was just thinking about that game recently. I hear it's pretty darn good. I've seen it a few times in the past, but never for cheap enough to pick up.

Speaking of rare games, and apologetically digressing from the topic, but what do you know about Hogs of War? It's a PSone strategy game by Infogrames. I have a copy that I got from Infogrames (I previewed it then requested it), but have never seen it anywhere else.
http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&SQL=GIH||||24337

[Survivor Charlie]

Playstation is not my area of expertise, sorry :( I can tell you that the rarest games for the PS were all made by the same company, and that they were all educational games. Sadly, I don't even have the name of the company off hand. I'll try to get it to you.

[ViolentLee]

No worries, Charlie. None of us are perfect. ;)

[GuilewasNK]

Playstation is not my area of expertise, sorry :( I can tell you that the rarest games for the PS were all made by the same company, and that they were all educational games. Sadly, I don't even have the name of the company off hand. I'll try to get it to you.

Lightspan I believe.

[Survivor Charlie]

That's it. Lightspan. Anything by them will be rare in the future. I've heard figures of under 1000 for everything by them.

[ctice44]

Also, all three versions of the Bleemcast disks are hard to find. Since Bleem got their butts sued by Sony and lost. I have the GT2 one. I was never interested in Metal Gear or Tekken 3 back then.

[Survivor Charlie]

The Bleemcast discs are, in order...

Not rare, (http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=136&products_id=1550&)not rare, (http://search-completed.ebay.com/Dreamcast-Bleem_W0QQfisZ2QQfromZR10QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1Q QftrvZ1QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs) and not rare. (http://search-completed.ebay.com/Bleemcast-Metal_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcatrefZC6QQfisZ2QQfromZR10QQf sooZ2QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZ bs)

All together now: not rare (http://search-completed.ebay.com/Bleemcast_W0QQfisZ2QQfromZR10QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ1QQftr tZ1QQftrvZ1QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs)

ETA: I should note that lawsuits do nothing to affect the rarity of games 9 times out of 10. The Guy Game was recently pulled, but it won't be rare ever. And I've seen new Bleemcast discs in stores at nearly ever mall I go to.

[rarebucky]

I've got multiple sealed copies of Skies of Arcadia and Power Stone 2. Guess I'll sit on them for a few years more :)

[ViolentLee]

Woohoo! I found a copy of Industrial Spy Espionage uber-cheap off Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8167334018

Thanks again to Survivor Charlie for the heads-up.

[Mike23]

I could NOT find this game! congrats!

[Survivor Charlie]

Oh, and for a weird piece of Dreamcast history, although Half-Life for the DC was cancelled, Prima's strategy guide for it was in fact published and shipped to stores, albeit in limited quanities. Snap it up if you see it and sit on it. A very strange collection piece, to be sure.

[ViolentLee]

I could NOT find this game! congrats!

Bookmark a search page looking for "Spy, Dreamcast" and check it every now and then. It's not one of those you'll see on Ebay every day, but it does show up.