[DEAD HORSE for now] Starfox Assault - IMPRESSIONS from first renters

[AnthonyRoundtree]

Starfox Assault - IMPRESSIONS from first Renters

Thread for first impressions on the final version of the game.

Quite a lot of us will have this in our Cubes this Monday night/Tuesday morning thanks to NOA and Blockbuster/Hollywood Video.

I'll post my first impressions as soon as I give it a round. Hopefully its been seriously juiced since E3..... what a bore THAT demo was....

If anyone else gets it earlier... please....

Enlighten us!

Until then... the COUNTDOWN BEGINS!

welllllllllll

shaq-fu this thread.....

i'll try again....
tommorow morning when some of us get it....

until then...

enjoy deceiphering the riddle of blockbuster charging your credit card the retail price of an item less what you paid to rent it if you dont return it in 30 days.

real shaq-fuing rocket science.

[ananag112]

We can rent this at BlockBuster and pay no late fees right?

[pimpinc333]

They made a new starfox?!?!!?! Holy Shit.

[evilmax17]

We can rent this at BlockBuster and pay no late fees right?

The fine print on that is that if you don't return it within 7 days after the due date, you own the game (i.e. they charge you for the full price of the game, no negotiating).

[ananag112]

We can rent this at BlockBuster and pay no late fees right?

The fine print on that is that if you don't return it within 7 days after the due date, you own the game (i.e. they charge you for the full price of the game, no negotiating).

Yeah, I know about that. For people that want the game anyway though, you get it a week or so early.

[b3b0p]

We can rent this at BlockBuster and pay no late fees right?

The fine print on that is that if you don't return it within 7 days after the due date, you own the game (i.e. they charge you for the full price of the game, no negotiating).

Full price for a used game?!?!?!

Scandalous!

[David85]

We can rent this at BlockBuster and pay no late fees right?

The fine print on that is that if you don't return it within 7 days after the due date, you own the game (i.e. they charge you for the full price of the game, no negotiating).

Full price for a used game?!?!?!

Scandalous!

No just Blockbuster being it's dumbass self.

[chunk]

Full price for a used game?!?!?!

Scandalous!

I know, it's almost as bad as EB. At least blockbuster has it in the fine print.

By the way, does anyone know what blockbuster's full price on this game is? (hopefully it is MSRP, but they might pay a premium to get it early)

[GizmoGC]

If you rent it and don't return it they charge you the used price minus the rental fee. So assuming it will be $39.99 used, and a game rental is $7, you would be charged $32.99.

[Jrunt20x]

Yeah, I'm excited about it. I'd even not return it and pay the full price to get early. Only if I were to be able to take the original packaging. Otherwise forget it.

[Greetard]

That's not how it goes.
1. You rent a game/movie
2. You don't return the movie by its due date, and you are granted a one week grace period.
3. You don't return it after that, and they charge it to your credit card full price for NEW, no discount
4. If you return it within one month, the charge will be taken off your credit card and you will be charged 1.50 restocking fee.

[zionoverfire]

That's not how it goes.
1. You rent a game/movie
2. You don't return the movie by its due date, and you are granted a one week grace period.
3. You don't return it after that, and they charge it to your credit card full price for NEW, no discount
4. If you return it within one month, the charge will be taken off your credit card and you will be charged 1.50 restocking fee.

Yep and here to make up the lost revenue they increased the price of all rentals. Bastards! :D

[Steggy]

6.99 for a game rental now... holy fuck im never renting a game again.

[Scahom1]

I know, it's almost as bad as EB

It could be, although just because the shrinkwrap is off doesn't mean it's used now, does it?

Of course, that's a topic for another thread(s) :cool:

[Scahom1]

6.99 for a game rental now... holy shaq-fu im never renting a game again.

Well if the new Star Fox is anything like Star Fox 64...it can be beaten in about 2 hours. So figure $6.99 to beat it, and we can wait till it's $10-$15 to own it, rather then paying $50 up front. Not too bad...

[TJordan522]

Wait--I'm confused. Why will Blockbuster have it a week early?

[CaseyRyback]

6.99 for a game rental now... holy shaq-fu im never renting a game again.

Well if the new Star Fox is anything like Star Fox 64...it can be beaten in about 2 hours. So figure $6.99 to beat it, and we can wait till it's $10-$15 to own it, rather then paying $50 up front. Not too bad...

only problem with that is Star Fox 64 is one of the most addicting games ever, and the only reason I have a 64 still.

though I will be waiting to buy this until I get some more money and for the reviews to come out since it was not developed internally

[Rig]

Wait--I'm confused. Why will Blockbuster have it a week early?

Just as a special treat from Nnitendo. They allowed BB get the game a bit early, before you can buy the game. So, you are able to rent it days before anyone can own it. Kinda cool, IMO.

[TJordan522]

Wait--I'm confused. Why will Blockbuster have it a week early?

Just as a special treat from Nnitendo. They allowed BB get the game a bit early, before you can buy the game. So, you are able to rent it days before anyone can own it. Kinda cool, IMO.

Yeah, that is pretty cool. So Blockbuster should have it tomorrow? Is it possible it may be out tonight?

[bil4l]

If you get stuck buying the game can you go back and get the box and the manual and stuff?

[dpatel]

I've got the game pre-ordered already. I hope its good though.

Also, about the no late fees policy. Some of you are missing some of the details.

After the 7 day grace period they sell you the price of the game/movie for the used price(if they have any used copies of that game/movie in at the time of rental) otherwise they charge MSRP minus the amount you paid to rent.
You have 30 days after the sale to get a full refund minus $1.25 restocking fee (it might be different price elsewhere).

[bil4l]

Restocking fee=late fee. Aka false advertisement

[dpatel]

Restocking fee=late fee. Aka false advertisement

true. I don't blame them though. How else are they going to get their movies back. And that 1.25 is for being 7-30 days late which isn't that bad.

[jimbodan]

Just to end all this arguing about the actual terms of the no late fees thing, here is the OFFICIAL policy, taken straight from www.blockbuster.com

# What are the full movie and game rental terms now that BLOCKBUSTER® has stopped charging late fees?

A: Movie and game rentals are due back at the date and time stated on the transaction receipt. There is no additional charge if a member keeps a rental item beyond the pre-paid rental period. However, if a member chooses to keep a rental item more than a week after the end of the rental period, Blockbuster will automatically convert the rental to a sale on the eight (8th) day after the end of the rental period. Blockbuster will charge the membership account the selling price for the item in effect at the time of the rental. The selling price will be discounted by the amount of the initial rental fee paid by the member at the time of rental. If the member returns the item within 30 days of the sale date, Blockbuster will credit back to the membership account the amount previously charged to the member’s account or the member’s credit card, as applicable, for the selling price of the item, but the member will be charged a minimal restocking fee. All rental items must be returned to the proper BLOCKBUSTER® store. These rental terms are subject to change without notice at any time. Participating stores only. Additional membership rules apply for rentals. See participating BLOCKBUSTER store for details. BLOCKBUSTER name, design and related marks are trademarks of Blockbuster Inc. ©2005 Blockbuster Inc. All rights reserved
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# When will BLOCKBUSTER® stop charging late fees?

A: BLOCKBUSTER's new policy eliminating late fees is effective Jan. 1, 2005.
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# Can I keep movie and game rentals as long as I want now?

A: Movie and game rentals are still due back by the due date shown on your receipt.
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# What do you mean by "the end of late fees?"

A: For any reason, if you are unable to return the movies or games by their due date, you won't be charged additional fees for keeping them an extra day or two.
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# What if I forget to bring back a movie or game? Won't you charge me something at some point?

A: If you still have a movie or game seven (7) days after the due date shown on your receipt, we will convert your rental to a sale. The movie or game will be sold to you at the selling price in effect at the time of rental, which is either the retail price, or, when available, at the previously-rented selling price, less the initial rental fee you paid.
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# How do I pay for a rental that has been converted to a sale?

A: As with balances on your membership account today, if you've chosen the convenience of securing your account with a credit card, we'll charge this amount to your credit card. If you don't have a credit card on file or if we cannot process the charge for some reason, the balance due will be placed on your BLOCKBUSTER membership account.
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# What if I return the movie or game seven days or more past the due date?

A: We will gladly let you return the movie or game within 30 days of the sale. If the selling price has been charged to your credit card, we will credit the amount charged to your credit card when you instruct us to do so in person (otherwise we will place this amount on your BLOCKBUSTER membership account). If this amount has been charged to your membership account, we will remove the balance. However, in both instances you will be charged a restocking fee plus applicable taxes.
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# Why do you charge a restocking fee in this situation?

A: BLOCKBUSTER incurs processing, administrative and other costs when we have to convert rental product to a sale, as well as when you return the product after that sale. The restocking fee helps to cover that cost.
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# I have a BLOCKBUSTER Movie PassTM - why should I keep it now that there are no more late fees for any rental?

A: The BLOCKBUSTER Movie Pass still lets you rent unlimited movies with the added benefit of no due dates. That means you can rent as many movies as you want (up to the maximum allowed by your plan) and return them whenever you want, for one low monthly fee.
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# What about my BLOCKBUSTER Game PassTM? Why is that still a value to me?

A: The BLOCKBUSTER Game Pass still lets you rent as many games as you want (up to the maximum allowed by your plan) and keep them for as long as you want. That means you can try a lot of games before you buy them or choose to master a game over several weeks, all for one low monthly fee.
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# Aren't you worried that you won't have enough movies and games if everyone keeps their rentals longer?

A: We will be carefully monitoring the movie and game selection to make sure we maintain our current levels of product availability for you. However, it's in everyone's best interest to return their rentals by the due date, even with the end of late fees, to ensure that we have the movies and games you want to rent, available when you want to rent them.

[smalien1]

The grace period is BS, they should just make it a two week rental!

[chubbyninja1319]

So......when will this game be available for rent? From the first post, it seemed like it already was available. Everybodies griping about the no late fees thing and I haven't heard jack about the game.

[Rig]

IIRC, they get it in on February 1st. I could be wrong though...

[TJordan522]

Yeah, I checked at BB last night and they didn't have it. The guy said they would get it next Tuesday. I will go on the first anyway since he didnt know what he was talking about.

[Snake2715]

6.99 for a game rental now... holy shaq-fu im never renting a game again.

Well if the new Star Fox is anything like Star Fox 64...it can be beaten in about 2 hours. So figure $6.99 to beat it, and we can wait till it's $10-$15 to own it, rather then paying $50 up front. Not too bad...

Plus dont forget teh multiplay might just make this game.

And we have 2 pages of nothing but Blockbuster junk?? I thought someone had got the game early and posted...

[MaxBiaggi3]

Well if the new Star Fox is anything like Star Fox 64...it can be beaten in about 2 hours. So figure $6.99 to beat it, and we can wait till it's $10-$15 to own it, rather then paying $50 up front. Not too bad...

You've got to love the name though. People are already calling it Starfox Ass, and the game isn't even out yet. Imagine what people are going to be saying if the game either really good or really bad. I wonder. . .

[chunk]

# What if I return the movie or game seven days or more past the due date?

A: We will gladly let you return the movie or game within 30 days of the sale. If the selling price has been charged to your credit card, we will credit the amount charged to your credit card when you instruct us to do so in person (otherw?ise we will place this amount on your BLOCKBUSTER membership account). If this amount has been charged to your membership account, we will remove the balance. However, in both instances you will be charged a restocking fee plus applicable taxes.
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Am I reading this correctly? Let's say they charge you $5 to rent a game. You keep it and they charge you an additonal $35 to convert your rental to a sale ($40 total). Then you bring it back after 2 weeks and they credit you back the $40 and charge you $1.25 restocking fee. So you can rent it for a month for only $1.25?

I never rent anything, but I might start if I can get things for a month for only $1.25

[javeryh]

It didn't get that great of reviews in the latest EGM...

8.0, 8.0, 6.0

[js1]

It didn't get that great of reviews in the latest EGM...

8.0, 8.0, 6.0

two 8's and 6 , is good. not every game is going to get 9's or 10's some of the best games I've ever player have had 7-8 scores.

[jkam]

6.99 for a game rental now... holy shaq-fu im never renting a game again.

Well if the new Star Fox is anything like Star Fox 64...it can be beaten in about 2 hours. So figure $6.99 to beat it, and we can wait till it's $10-$15 to own it, rather then paying $50 up front. Not too bad...

only problem with that is Star Fox 64 is one of the most addicting games ever, and the only reason I have a 64 still.

though I will be waiting to buy this until I get some more money and for the reviews to come out since it was not developed internally

Starfox 64 is actually the only reason I still own an N64.

[gmzone]

I've heard everyone mention Blockbuster's name, but will Hollywood Video have this as well? The OP says it will. Hopefully either way, the rental stores will have this one in stock as of this afternoon, before I head to work.

Also, I believe the thread was created for people who played the game to voice out their opinions of said game.

[-Never4ever-]

Wait--I'm confused. Why will Blockbuster have it a week early?

Just as a special treat from Nnitendo. They allowed BB get the game a bit early, before you can buy the game. So, you are able to rent it days before anyone can own it. Kinda cool, IMO.

Yep. They did the same thing for both Animal Crossingf and Maximo: Ghosts to Glory.

[dpatel]

# What if I return the movie or game seven days or more past the due date?

A: We will gladly let you return the movie or game within 30 days of the sale. If the selling price has been charged to your credit card, we will credit the amount charged to your credit card when you instruct us to do so in person (otherw?ise we will place this amount on your BLOCKBUSTER membership account). If this amount has been charged to your membership account, we will remove the balance. However, in both instances you will be charged a restocking fee plus applicable taxes.
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Am I reading this correctly? Let's say they charge you $5 to rent a game. You keep it and they charge you an additonal $35 to convert your rental to a sale ($40 total). Then you bring it back after 2 weeks and they credit you back the $40 and charge you $1.25 restocking fee. So you can rent it for a month for only $1.25?

I never rent anything, but I might start if I can get things for a month for only $1.25

when they sell the game to you, its minus the price you paid to rent. So if they game was $40 and the rental fee was $5, then you would pay an additional $35 after the 7 day grace period. When you return it, you only get refunded the $35. Still not that bad though. $1.25 extra for keeping it 30 days. Too bad their game rentals are $6.99 here. I buy games for less than that thanks to CAG.

[AnthonyRoundtree]

welllllllllll

fuck this thread.....

i'll try again....
tommorow morning when some of us get it....

until then...

enjoy deceiphering the riddle of blockbuster charging your credit card the retail price of an item less what you paid to rent it if you don't return it in 30 days.

real fucking rocket science.

[gmzone]

I went to Hollywood Video. They did not have the game. I was in a rush and did not have time to ask if they were planning on getting it later in the evening or tomorrow morning. As for Blockbuster, it's $7... C'mon. I'm a CAG'er.

[chunk]

when they sell the game to you, its minus the price you paid to rent. So if they game was $40 and the rental fee was $5, then you would pay an additional $35 after the 7 day grace period. When you return it, you only get refunded the $35. Still not that bad though. $1.25 extra for keeping it 30 days. Too bad their game rentals are $6.99 here. I buy games for less than that thanks to CAG.

Well that makes sense, but that isn't what the verbage implies. It says that the rental is converted into a sale, which implies that after the sale the rental is effectively abolished and replaced with a $40 sale.

They then say that you get a refund for the sale, which is $40.

I mean they will probably do what you say, but the faq implies otherwise.

[Rig]

I'm going down there today to see if they have it. However, I have never had an account at BB. Do I need to take a credit card, or will my driver's license be enough for them? I usually get my movies/games from Family Video, becuase they are a hell of a lot cheaper, but I want to play Star Fox...

[gmzone]

I think you do. I had to use one to open an account. However, with HV, I did not. They just limited me on how many games/films I could rent at any one given time. That limit has since been removed because I've been a good customer. If you don't bring a credit card, you definately will need to bring a cable bill, power bill, etc. No cell phone bills accepted.

[hutno]

I'm going down there today to see if they have it. However, I have never had an account at BB. Do I need to take a credit card, or will my driver's license be enough for them? I usually get my movies/games from Family Video, becuase they are a hell of a lot cheaper, but I want to play Star Fox...

Either a credit card or a utility bill

[Rig]

I'm going down there today to see if they have it. However, I have never had an account at BB. Do I need to take a credit card, or will my driver's license be enough for them? I usually get my movies/games from Family Video, becuase they are a hell of a lot cheaper, but I want to play Star Fox...

Either a credit card or a utility bill

Damn! I'm at the dorm, and my credit card is at home! :( Maybe one of my friends can make an account. Thanks for the help...

[anionyx]

Just got my copy of Starfox. Have to get the kids at school but will try to let you guys know how it plays. I expect it be pretty awesome as it's developed by namco and Ace Combat 5 was pretty awesome!

[PaulEMoz]

6.99 for a game rental now... holy shaq-fu im never renting a game again.

On the other hand, you now get the game for a week instead of five days.

Think yourselves lucky, apparently back in England game rentals are around 5 pounds (nearly $10) PER NIGHT.

[GizmoGC]

Looks like i'll be renting this today

[anionyx]

All right. Just got home. Played a couple of levels and the game seems pretty cool so far.

Graphics-8 They're decent but trying to make Arwings look the way they have makes them seem flat a little. The rest of the world looks beautiful though. Clean just not mind blowing.

Sound-8.5 Personally I like the music a lot. It's typical Nintendo action music. It's sweeping and the tempo pumps you up for those battles with ships. Warning to the meek though; the voice acting is horrible.

Control- 7 The control is okay. You use the analog to move everything, you have a camera but it seems sort of useless. You play in an Arwing, on land on foot and in a tank thing called a Landmaster. They all control well. I was pleasantly surprised by the tank but the fact that it rolls like an Arwing on the ground seems a little cheesy. The only thing I didn't like is that as usual you're playing on a pre determined track. As of yet I have seen nowhere where you can change direction and go wherever you like. This was cool on SNES but now it seems like they just cripple it.

Gameplay. 7.5 It's a pretty good game. It's a lot of fun. My son(7) likes it a lot and thinks it's one of the best games ever. It just doesn't wow me. Maybe because the other game I'm playing right now is Resident Evil 4 it just seems like they could have done so much more with it. Also the story is ridiculous. Why even bother with a story? Just let us know we're saving the universe and let us start blasting bad guys. It's fun to be saving your teammates again though there seem to be a little too many powerups and shields lying around for my taste(I'm playing on Silver or Normal Setting). If you liked the old Star Foxes (in my opinion there is no real Star Fox this generation till this one) you'll probably love it. I just don't see myself replaying it after beating it. To each his own though and have fun. Definitely worht a rental. I won't buy it now, but I may pick it up as a Greatest Hits with a GGC at Best Buy when it lowers a little..

[Arkay Firestar]

Yea, I wouldn't expect good voice acting. The only other third-party developed Nintendo franchise game (F-zero GX) had HORRENDOUSLY bad voice acting.

I think the original SNES version is still the best.

[zionoverfire]

I just rented a copy. It feels like a hybrid of Star Fox 64 and Star Fox Legends. The voice acting however is terrible and slippy makes me want to smack him. The system in interesting and a bit innovative. One level I've played so far requires you to move around in first person mode as fox then you need to go outside and fight a space battle, come back inside complete your mission objectives then fight another space battle. It's really neat because it makes the gave flow a lot better. The graphics are pretty good while they keep to the traditional star fox style.

I'm a bit curious why Nintendo sent this out as a release first since it feels like a very soild rental but the more I play the less it feels like something I'd be interested in owning.

[Rig]

The voice acting however is terrible and slippy makes me want to smack him.

Haven't you always wanted to smack Slippy?

[dpatel]

any multiplayer impressions? Seemed like it could be fun. I'm wondering if you can transition between air,land, and foot in multiplayer games or do you use one type the whole match.

[TheGreat2nd]

The voice acting however is terrible and slippy makes me want to smack him.

Haven't you always wanted to smack Slippy?

Smack Slippy? Just smack him?
I bomb him and shoot him with my lasers. Full out chase him.
I hate Slippy.

Peppy is cool though :P
And I really wanna blow stuff up in the Arwing :)

[TJordan522]

I just rented this at my BB. However, I have a question for everyone. In the beginning of the game, it asks if you want the Y-Axis inverted for your controls. Were the controls inverted in Star Fox 64? Because neither inverted controls or regular controls seem to feel right...

[jkam]

What's Star Fox Legends?

[TJordan522]

I just rented this at my BB. However, I have a question for everyone. In the beginning of the game, it asks if you want the Y-Axis inverted for your controls. Were the controls inverted in Star Fox 64? Because neither inverted controls or regular controls seem to feel right...

Nobody?

[jacobv]

I just rented this at my BB. However, I have a question for everyone. In the beginning of the game, it asks if you want the Y-Axis inverted for your controls. Were the controls inverted in Star Fox 64? Because neither inverted controls or regular controls seem to feel right...
Hmm.
All I know is that in Star Fox 64, you go down when you push the control stick forward and up when you push it back.

[sying]

Soooo... basically you can "rent" a game up to 37 days. On the 37th day return the game for a full refund minus the 1.50 restocking fee and give them back a game that is past its prime selling period. Goooood thinking Blockbuster.

[MaxBiaggi3]

I'm sure there's an angle in there somewhere that BB can get you on. The company certainly isn't changing policies to help consumers. I bet they figure that most people aren't going to return long overdue rentals and will end up being charged for it at the full retail price. Consumer apathy and ignorance is probably something they count on.

[TJordan522]

I just rented this at my BB. However, I have a question for everyone. In the beginning of the game, it asks if you want the Y-Axis inverted for your controls. Were the controls inverted in Star Fox 64? Because neither inverted controls or regular controls seem to feel right...
Hmm.
All I know is that in Star Fox 64, you go down when you push the control stick forward and up when you push it back.

OK, thanks. That's inverted.

[scargums]

ok, just rented it from BB, and i am highly unimpresed. i dont know, i might as well play star fox 64, this looks and feels no different. story is retarded, voices are stupid, and i am really disliking the on foot missions. the whole game just feels like they wanted to remake sf64 and change as little as humanly possible over the last 9 years, including visuals and controls. ugh, its just fugly after playing re4, and the game is just kinda boring, even the menus are uninteresting, and the cutscenes are useless. mediocre at best, but then again, i have yet to play anyone else in multiplayer, maybe it will redeem itself in that department just by being fun again. i certainly hoep so. highly disapointing namco and nintendo, glad i didnt buy it.

[GizmoGC]

Gotta wonder if this was wise for Nintendo to release it 2 weeks early for rent. Most people seem unimpressed and not willing to purchase it after renting it. Well, I'll see if any of my stores have it in stock today for rent and give it a spin.

[Gameboy415]

Gotta wonder if this was wise for Nintendo to release it 2 weeks early for rent. Most people seem unimpressed and not willing to purchase it after renting it.

D'OH!

Well I still plan on buyin it b/c I'm a huge Starfox fan (I even forced myself through SFA) and I've been looking forward to this one for a while.....

[GizmoGC]

I just rented this. Ill play it for a bit and give some impressions later.

[Mr Durand Pierre]

IGN just reviewed it and gave it a 7.0. I might rent somewhere down the line. Otherwise it looks pretty bleh.

[FrankySox]

Um...Wow this game is pretty bad. Just rented it and played it for like 2 hours and I just cant stand it. The ground missions are pretty crappy. The controls are all messed up, and yes like everyone I've been playing RE4 so this just looks bad. However the flying missions are pretty cool. So anyway this game stinks so bad I turned my huge metal fan on high and threw the disc in there. It's okay though because I have 37 days to find all the pieces and glue it back together before I'm obligated to buy it! :cool:

[RedvsBlue]

Gotta wonder if this was wise for Nintendo to release it 2 weeks early for rent. Most people seem unimpressed and not willing to purchase it after renting it. Well, I'll see if any of my stores have it in stock today for rent and give it a spin.

Given how short the game is I think you may be right.

[gmzone]

I'm playing it, and I'm liking it for the most part. I think some of you are being a bit harsh on it(especially because of RE4). I don't think it's fair to compare the two games. I have to play some more of the game before I can say whether I like it or not, but so far, thumbs up for the first hour and a half.

[DenisDFat]

RE4 sucks,
SFAssault sucks less.

[Eclipse]

The games not bad for a sequel from the time that ive had with it-its good that they kept slippy as such an annoying bastard..Love not helping him out on the missions.

But do you guys want to know what really, REALLY sucks ass?
DennisDFat on CAG. Ill park my arwing up yours, kind sir.

[help1]

The games not bad for a sequel from the time that ive had with it-its good that they kept slippy as such an annoying bastard..Love not helping him out on the missions.

But do you guys want to know what really, REALLY sucks ass?
DennisDFat on CAG. Ill park my arwing up yours, kind sir.

yeah,he is worse than me... he is like a nintendo fanboy that doesn't like gamecube games except zelda.

[David85]

I was hoping that this Star Fox game would be like SW: RS3 with open air mission and ok ground levels, but I guess I was wrong.

Anyother game to pass on. Nintendo keeps making crap sequels and no new games they are going to be in bigger trouble than I thought.

[help1]

I was hoping that this Star Fox game would be like SW: RS3 with open air mission and ok ground levels, but I guess I was wrong.

Anyother game to pass on. Nintendo keeps making crap sequels and no new games they are going to be in bigger trouble than I thought.

I agree, their only good sequel (besides pikmin and zelda) is MK! DD and it gets old fast. Hopefully they will learn from thier mistakes, cause I know M$ and Sony as seeing all nintendo's mistakes and learning from them.

[dpatel]

I was hoping that this Star Fox game would be like SW: RS3 with open air mission and ok ground levels, but I guess I was wrong.

Anyother game to pass on. Nintendo keeps making crap sequels and no new games they are going to be in bigger trouble than I thought.

Yep. That is the reason I bought a GC, so I could play all those games that I missed out on because I didn't have an N64. But when I look back, most of the sequels are not as great as the originals. With all the time they spent making the game I would've expected more. Hopefully they can get their act together next-gen. I would hate for it to just be Sony vs. MS.

[Scorch]

ok, just rented it from BB, and i am highly unimpresed. i dont know, i might as well play star fox 64, this looks and feels no different. story is retarded, voices are stupid, and i am really disliking the on foot missions. the whole game just feels like they wanted to remake sf64 and change as little as humanly possible over the last 9 years, including visuals and controls. ugh, its just fugly after playing re4, and the game is just kinda boring, even the menus are uninteresting, and the cutscenes are useless. mediocre at best, but then again, i have yet to play anyone else in multiplayer, maybe it will redeem itself in that department just by being fun again. i certainly hoep so. highly disapointing namco and nintendo, glad i didnt buy it.

So tell us how you really feel.

I wasn't expecting a great game. The only thing that's great about this game is the shiny oversized box that I might be getting after it's done being whored to the public.

[jacobv]

Has anyone played multiplater with four people to any extent yet?

[tragicslip]

man, i am getting sick of this. yes, the restocking fee is a late fee ( blockbuster is equivicating) but, if you take full advantage of the no late fee thing you can get a game for 37 days for 8.25 (assumes 6.99 rental fee). yes, after seven days they charge you the price of the game but they refund that as long as you return the game no later than 30 days after the due date. if you don't like blockbuster messing with your credit card you can have them remove the card from the account. then the charges show up on your in store account, not your card (YMMV as to if they let you have an account without credit card, most do). 8.25 for 37 days with game is a good deal. we are all cags and -i think- all familiar with the fine print of all the deals we exploit. get on the bus. they will have to change the policy if we all do, but that is their problem NOT ours.

but i agree with those still addicted to the 64 version it was the short but the sweetest version. somewhat unimpressed: 4 out of 10

[David85]

I was hoping that this Star Fox game would be like SW: RS3 with open air mission and ok ground levels, but I guess I was wrong.

Anyother game to pass on. Nintendo keeps making crap sequels and no new games they are going to be in bigger trouble than I thought.

Yep. That is the reason I bought a GC, so I could play all those games that I missed out on because I didn't have an N64. But when I look back, most of the sequels are not as great as the originals. With all the time they spent making the game I would've expected more. Hopefully they can get their act together next-gen. I would hate for it to just be Sony vs. MS.

Yeah I was hoping for bigger, better, more open games. Like a Pilot Wings that looks real, a GOOD Mario platform / Adventure game. So far the best "new" game was Animal Crossing, but that could be a lot better.

I like the games GC has, but this is probablt my last system for awhile. I don't have the extra cash. But if I do buy another system, it will not be a Nintendo system because they don't have a clue what they are doing.

Mario 64 > Mario Sunshine (Boring)
Zelda 64 > WW (Too short/easy)
MK64 > MK:DD (Too... bad..)