Why Nintendo dumps Component/Digital AV out on GameCube?

[Mospeada_21]

To some, this may be old news, but others may not be aware. This message is meant to create awareness, communicate to GameCube owners, and pass along a message to Nintendo.

First:
Component Cables are amazing! Your picture quality is pure, clean, and crisp! Details jump out at you, images appear in 3D, and colors are vibrant! Lines are solid, and textures are clear.

Now, compare that to Composite Cables (the ones included with the GameCube; the yellow video only (with red and white for right and left audio respectively). Switch back to composite, and the picture quality is blurry, appears out of focus, and difficult to look at. Composite cables create images with soft blended lines. Your gaming quality goes down when you play on Composite.

Do yourself a favor, get a Component Cable now!!! (i'm not here to sell you cables, but Nintendo and Lik-Sang are both backordered)

I bought my first Cube in [Nov]'02 (Metroid Prime), and got the Component Cables directly from Nintendo in May'03. I've been playing on Component Cables since, this product is awesome and pure gold! I now have two Cubes with around 150 GC games; and looking for my second Component Cable (item is backordered).

To fully realize the hardware and software capabilities of games played on GC, get a Component Cable now. (And if your budget allows, go high definition and widescreen!) Trust me, you'll never want to go back to gaming any other way!!!

Second:
Nintendo stops the manufacturing of GameCubes with both Digital and Analog (DOL-001) output in May'04, and now only manufactures GameCubes with Analog output (DOL-101). Big N's Reason: only 1% of owners use the digital output. Read: Cutting costs, maintain margins to stay competitive; understandable in the business world. BUT, For consumers: Lower quality product, same price.

Yes, there's an alternative, to swap it out with Big N directly and get a re-manufactured version. So now, that means if you want a GameCube with both digital and analog AV out, you must go out and buy a NEW GC, SHIP it in, and get a[n] OLD/USED GC with the original functions. :shock:

This is a huge step backwards. The LCD flatpanel TV market is exploding in '05, and Nintendo is sticking it straight to [the] consumers.

Final:
Many of us grew up with Nintendo, and still love gaming on Big N's platforms. This means we are also power consumers with lots of disposable income. You know your target audience, I'm in it, and I'm telling you, you are wrong. Do not betray your audience, pushed enough, we will switch.

[javeryh]

yeah, component rules.

[mtxbass1]

It's too bad Nintendo could care less about your letter.

While I agree that component video is completely bad ass, a very very very small share of the market actually takes advantage of it. What would Nintendo's incentive to be to keep something around if it cost them extra money, but less than 1% of the market was using it? As a "power consumer", you still represent a very miniscle part of the market in Nintendo's eyes.

[Mospeada_21]

It's too bad Nintendo could care less about your letter.

While I agree that component video is completely bad ass, a very very very small share of the market actually takes advantage of it. What would Nintendo's incentive to be to keep something around if it cost them extra money, but less than 1% of the market was using it? As a "power consumer", you still represent a very miniscle part of the market in Nintendo's eyes.

spoken like a true executive on Nintendo's payroll, eh? I'm aware there's Nintendo insiders on this board. (no need to name)

Your statement has contradictions I'm not even going to bother pointing out. And you're missing the point.

You 'wanna kick my ass and take my name?' I'm registered on Big N's board (same as here), come find me.

[Blues]

I have always used the standard composite cables, but I recently got component cables for my Xbox and the picture looks amazing.

I would love to see what my GC games would look like, especially since most first party games use such vibrant colors.

[mtxbass1]

It's too bad Nintendo could care less about your letter.

While I agree that component video is completely bad ass, a very very very small share of the market actually takes advantage of it. What would Nintendo's incentive to be to keep something around if it cost them extra money, but less than 1% of the market was using it? As a "power consumer", you still represent a very miniscle part of the market in Nintendo's eyes.

spoken like a true executive on Nintendo's payroll, eh? I'm aware there's Nintendo insiders on this board. (no need to name)

Your statement has contradictions I'm not even going to bother pointing out. And you're missing the point.

You 'wanna kick my ass and take my name?' I'm registered on Big N's board (same as here), come find me.

:roll: As an owner of every Nintendo console, let alone everything Sega and MS have put out, I'm hardly on Nintendo's payroll. I am pointing out a simple fact to you. Nintendo is in business to make money. If they see that a certain feature is not being used but by a small percentage of the market, then what is the incentive to keep said feature if it ends up costing them more money? With everything the way it is nowadays, companies have to trim the fat as much as possible if they want to stay afloat.

[dafoomie]

Nintendo prides itself on being "innovative", but won't support newer technologies. They don't like progressive scan, they don't like online gaming, they don't even like the DVD format. They even clung to cartridges on the N64 when they were severely outdated, they would have otherwise dominated the PS1 technologically.

Nintendo makes good games, and designs their hardware very well, but they won't use new technologies until they are dragged kicking and screaming by the rest of the market. I'm almost surprised that they aren't still making playing cards with this attitude.


The amount of people with access to component cables is much greater than 1%, plus its a market that anyone would love to have, early adopters with lots of disposable income. I have a box that'll convert component into VGA, so the Gamecube not supporting it would eliminate any possibility that I'd buy it. Online play is another big thing that I like that they don't have. Strike 2. But the real reason that I won't buy a Gamecube, is because I already have a great deal of great games on the 2 systems I already own, that I haven't played yet, so I simply don't have the time or the money to support a 3rd system and its better games. I do appriciate the pricepoint though.

I own a GBA though, and I have plenty of games for that.

[Mospeada_21]

:roll: As an owner of every Nintendo console, let alone everything Sega and MS have put out, I'm hardly on Nintendo's payroll. I am pointing out a simple fact to you. Nintendo is in business to make money. If they see that a certain feature is not being used but by a small percentage of the market, then what is the incentive to keep said feature if it ends up costing them more money? With everything the way it is nowadays, companies have to trim the fat as much as possible if they want to stay afloat.

I understand what you are saying, and I already know that. No need to talk down to people. I'm actually helping Big N with feedback as well here. I'm in the market for possibly another 6 GCs, and multiple copies of Big N's games. (that's another story) I'm simply informing other consumers of their choices, and telling Big N that is NOT the way to make 1 of their small installed base users happy.

I also purchased for/supplied my brothers with their PS2, and GBA, and majority library of games. I vote with my pocket, and my voice.

[soulwish2003]

Um... we will say it once more - NO ONE USED IT! The cost is way too high for the cables. No one purchased them.

It simply added cost to the GC that was not necessary.

S-video does the job with me on my PS2 and GC. The Xbox is on the HDTV set - I have component cables for that system.

[dafoomie]

Um... we will say it once more - NO ONE USED IT! The cost is way too high for the cables. No one purchased them.

It simply added cost to the GC that was not necessary.

S-video does the job with me on my PS2 and GC. The Xbox is on the HDTV set - I have component cables for that system.
Its easy for Nintendo to say that no one used it, when the cables were never really available. You pretty much have to import them if you want them at all, and at rediculous prices.

The feature never took off because they never supported it in the first place.

[Wshakspear]

same thing as with the Dreamcast BB adapter...so freakin hard to find. I know the exact reasons are different, but it was something that i could have used then, but didnt have the option due to short supply

[schultzed]

I've also compared the Gamecube with each of the cables: composite, S-video, and Component. The GC games looks great with the component output on a HDTV set. Definitely worth it if you play GC games on a HDTV . . . and sooo many CG games are in progressive scan. The Pikmin games in particular look so bright and clear.

I was able to order the cables along with free shipping on something else from Nintendo so I saved $5 . . . but the component cables are pretty expensive at $30.

[sisco1986]

Just get a S-Video cable and let it die already. Nintendo knows what there doing, there the only one that makes the blasted cable so I'm pretty sure they know how many they sell or don't sell, they wouldn't just pull it off there inventory list just for kicks, there has to be some reason behind and no body knows the reason for it, we can all guess but we don't work for Nintendo. Progressive Scan games aren't really that important in this generation of consoles, next generation when HDTV will probably become very mainstream as more TV channels support it, then it would be stupid to take out progressive scan on games but as it sits now I don't see the big deal.

[joeposh]

Um... we will say it once more - NO ONE USED IT! The cost is way too high for the cables. No one purchased them.

It simply added cost to the GC that was not necessary.

S-video does the job with me on my PS2 and GC. The Xbox is on the HDTV set - I have component cables for that system.
Its easy for Nintendo to say that no one used it, when the cables were never really available. You pretty much have to import them if you want them at all, and at rediculous prices.

The feature never took off because they never supported it in the first place.

Very true, if the cable had actually been offered at retail locations I'm sure the number of users would have jumped significantly. I wanted one for years but never felt the drive to order one from Nintendo's site.

with that said....I got one used for 5.99 at Gamestop last month and it rocks :lol:

[dwsscs]

The funny thing is Nintendo supported this for a few years! They figured most hard core Nintendo gamers already bought the one that supported it. They are just cutting some costs now mainly because hardly anyone used it to begin with. Those that really want it probably bought the Cube at lauch.

This is a pointless rant, mainly because Nintendo will trade your unit for one that has the component/DV out if you call them.

[defender]

It's true that I rarely sold component cables for the cube. The Xbox however was another matter.

[dafoomie]

The funny thing is Nintendo supported this for a few years! They figured most hard core Nintendo gamers already bought the one that supported it. They are just cutting some costs now mainly because hardly anyone used it to begin with. Those that really want it probably bought the Cube at lauch.

This is a pointless rant, mainly because Nintendo will trade your unit for one that has the component/DV out if you call them.
They sold the cable at a reasonable price through major retail outlets? I must have lived in a cave for those years.

Just get a S-Video cable and let it die already. Nintendo knows what there doing, there the only one that makes the blasted cable so I'm pretty sure they know how many they sell or don't sell, they wouldn't just pull it off there inventory list just for kicks, there has to be some reason behind and no body knows the reason for it, we can all guess but we don't work for Nintendo. Progressive Scan games aren't really that important in this generation of consoles, next generation when HDTV will probably become very mainstream as more TV channels support it, then it would be stupid to take out progressive scan on games but as it sits now I don't see the big deal.
Yeah, because the silly customer doesn't know what they want, Nintendo should tell them what they want. Because if they wanted our opinion, they'd give it to us.

People that dropped a couple grand on their HDTV will probably want a system that best supports their shiny new toy. Right now, thats Xbox. But with PS2, you can at least use the component cables and get improved picture quality. All the Cube does by not supporting the high end stuff, is continue to look less and less like home electronics, and more like a child's toy. Its not true, but thats the image they've created for themselves.

Big screen projection HDTV's have been sub-1k for some time now. You can get smaller HDTV's for under $500, some under $300. Its becoming more mainstream every day. Nintendo doesn't like to jump on the technological bandwagon until its firmly established and mainstream, which is a lost opportunity for them. Xbox is making online and HD mainstream. What position will Nintendo be in when both are already mainstream, and they either have not, or have just begun to support them?

[Ravaged]

Yea, I had to settle for S-Vid cables... When I switch between my PS2 and GC the difference is very noticable. Component looks much better then even S-Video. :-(

[Mospeada_21]

Thank you dafoomie, and also to those who have tried the component/digital option and posted their experiences.

Others: This is a forum for discussion, but some 'select' few want to shut us up. why?

[Mospeada_21]

Yeah, because the silly customer doesn't know what they want, Nintendo should tell them what they want. Because if they wanted our opinion, they'd give it to us.

Xbox is making online and HD mainstream. What position will Nintendo be in when both are already mainstream, and they either have not, or have just begun to support them?

well said dafoomie. Nintendo has classic myopia.

It was sad when Atari left, then Sega. However, I will continue to enjoy my classic GameCube by that time, but if Big N walks a similar path, I will not shed a tear. WE will move on to the next bigger and better 'video' game offered to the public. At least 'these' companies will know what we want. :wink:

And.....Nintendo? Guess you can call it a 'those' companies by then.

[dwsscs]

Thank you dafoomie, and also to those who have tried the component/digital option and posted their experiences.

Others: This is a forum for discussion, but some 'select' few want to shut us up. why?

No one wants to shut you up! Its a free country feel free to express your opinion just like I was.

On another note:

The component cables (3rd party universal) have been around for a while in retail outlets. Regardless I am sure Nintendo's price though not reasonable was on par with other specialty home theater cables. Have you ever bought high end cables to hook up all your gadgets? Its not uncommon to drop $25-50 on a cable.

If there was a market for this stuff, damn skippy Nintendo would of been out there pimpin these high end cables.

[dwsscs]

By the way, I have the cable and it makes the Cube look great. Worth the $$ in my opinion!

Release date for Game Cube:

November 18, 2001 you had over 3 years to get the system with the component hookups.

Release date for Monster Cable component hookup:

August 12, 2002 priced at $39.99

Release date for Nintendo's hookup:

November 26, 2001 about a week after the release of the Game Cube

This stuff has been around, there is no excuse for not getting it if you really wanted it.

[dafoomie]

Thank you dafoomie, and also to those who have tried the component/digital option and posted their experiences.

Others: This is a forum for discussion, but some 'select' few want to shut us up. why?

No one wants to shut you up! Its a free country feel free to express your opinion just like I was.

On another note:

The component cables (3rd party universal) have been around for a while in retail outlets. Regardless I am sure Nintendo's price though not reasonable was on par with other specialty home theater cables. Have you ever bought high end cables to hook up all your gadgets? Its not uncommon to drop $25-50 on a cable.

If there was a market for this stuff, damn skippy Nintendo would of been out there pimpin these high end cables.
Xbox's High Def pack is $20 new, $10 used, including cables and the box. Those are pretty good stuff.

[dwsscs]

A real complaint why didn't Nintendo release the Cube with Dolby Digital outputs for audio. Instead of the analog RCA ones.

[Mospeada_21]

Release date for Game Cube:

November 18, 2001 you had over 3 years to get the system with the component hookups.

Release date for Monster Cable component hookup:

August 12, 2002 priced at $39.99

Release date for Nintendo's hookup:

November 26, 2001 about a week after the release of the Game Cube

This stuff has been around, there is no excuse for not getting it if you really wanted it.

your assumptions dumbfound me. you're assuming I'm a new entrant; a late adapter? why? do you know me? cause you don't, so don't pretend to. (that's not the point here anyway. people continue to buy products as they please, 'who are you' to judge?)

and posting dates we all have at our disposal is.....[M21 restrains himself from shouting an insult]

you, dwsscs, have myopia like Nintendo...... :roll:

[soulwish2003]

That is a good point... I have no idea why they never sold them 'retail' @ $15 a pair.



Um... we will say it once more - NO ONE USED IT! The cost is way too high for the cables. No one purchased them.

It simply added cost to the GC that was not necessary.

S-video does the job with me on my PS2 and GC. The Xbox is on the HDTV set - I have component cables for that system.
Its easy for Nintendo to say that no one used it, when the cables were never really available. You pretty much have to import them if you want them at all, and at rediculous prices.

The feature never took off because they never supported it in the first place.

[dwsscs]

All I am saying is most people who want this feature had plenty of time to buy these items. What part about that do you not understand?

About the myopia thing, if I was selling a product and hardly anyone used a feature on it. I would take that feature away to cut my costs and increase my bottom line. Also passing the savings on to the customer (ie - Mario Kart Bundle).

Nintendo is also offering this option to the new generation of customers for free if they want the version with it. Its just a phone call.

You would have a great argument if Nintendo never made this option available.

[dwsscs]

That is a good point... I have no idea why they never sold them 'retail' @ $15 a pair.



Um... we will say it once more - NO ONE USED IT! The cost is way too high for the cables. No one purchased them.

It simply added cost to the GC that was not necessary.

S-video does the job with me on my PS2 and GC. The Xbox is on the HDTV set - I have component cables for that system.
Its easy for Nintendo to say that no one used it, when the cables were never really available. You pretty much have to import them if you want them at all, and at rediculous prices.

The feature never took off because they never supported it in the first place.

It was supported these cables were available. They were/are $30 at the website, and 3rd party ones were all over the stores.

[Mospeada_21]

Have you ever bought high end cables to hook up all your gadgets? Its not uncommon to drop $25-50 on a cable.

If there was a market for this stuff, damn skippy Nintendo would of been out there pimpin these high end cables.

yes, DVI, some/most of us have heard of it...... :roll:

[M21 now places an * by dwsscs's posts]

[dwsscs]

Have you ever bought high end cables to hook up all your gadgets? Its not uncommon to drop $25-50 on a cable.

If there was a market for this stuff, damn skippy Nintendo would of been out there pimpin these high end cables.

yes, DVI, some/most of us have heard of it...... :roll:

I wasn't just talking about DVI. I was talking about high end cables in general - Gold plated, etc. --- Svideo, optical, DVI, 75 ohm, RCA, speaker wire, etc.

[MaxBiaggi3]

If Nintendo had made component cables more readily available and less expensive, consumer demand would likely have been much greater, and we'd probably still be seeing component video support in new GCN systems. Unfortunately, Nintendo chose to go the exclusive route by making the official cable only available through their web site at a retail price of $40 plus shipping. Lame/10

[sisco1986]

What's the reason behind not having 3rd party support for Component Cables?

[dwsscs]

What's the reason behind not having 3rd party support for Component Cables?

There was 3rd party support for them! Most notably was Monster Cable!

[sisco1986]

What's the reason behind not having 3rd party support for Component Cables?

There was 3rd party support for them! Most notably was Monster Cable!

was. Monster doesn't make them anymore. Obviously the reason would be because they phased out the digital out, but theres 3+ years of cubes with digital out.

[dwsscs]

What's the reason behind not having 3rd party support for Component Cables?

There was 3rd party support for them! Most notably was Monster Cable!

was. Monster doesn't make them anymore. Obviously the reason would be because they phased out the digital out, but theres 3+ years of cubes with digital out.

Exactly 3+ years of support, and you can still buy other 3rd party DVI cables for the system now. Most 3rd party companies have started making them universal (PS2, Xbox, and GC all in one). Which makes it even more cost effective! If you want to take the time to unhook it from one system to the other.

[bmulligan]

Not to be a prick, sisco & dwsscs, but could you give a linky or something for these monstrer gamecube "component" cables? I've never seen them in a retail outlet, from Nintendo or otherwise and I'm not finding them from a lengthy google search.

I've traveled in many states in the union including Arrizona, ohio, tennessee, illinois, indiana, florida, massechusettes, and New York and I've never run accross "component" cables sitting on a shelf somewhere. In fact, a search of monstercable.com doesn't even produce said cables. None are even for sale on Ebay, which you'd think would be a repository for this product used, but there aren't any. This leads me to believe that they never existed except maybe in someone's imagination.

[dwsscs]

Closest Game Cube Monster Cable found on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41040&item=8164542 527&rd=1

[oracrest]

It's too bad Nintendo could care less about your letter.

While I agree that component video is completely bad ass, a very very very small share of the market actually takes advantage of it. What would Nintendo's incentive to be to keep something around if it cost them extra money, but less than 1% of the market was using it? As a "power consumer", you still represent a very miniscle part of the market in Nintendo's eyes.

not necessarily. Nintendo has always been on top of other consoles in the innovative department. While people with component tv's may be a small fraction of the market, more and more televisions are coming standard with component ins. this year has also seen the first retail component selector hitting the shelves. If a section of a market is growing, you can bet that nintendo is aware of it.

Nintendo has always kept many years in teh future with their planning of products. (I heard one of the reasons the GC disc is so small, other than obvious copyright protection reasons, is so that it will lend itself well to a portable system that is planned way down the road.) Last I heard, nintendo consistently plans about 15 years into the future with their product development.

I agree that the component resolution is great. Even games that don't have HD resolution will look infinitely better with a component cable hook up. I have all my systems at my place hooked up through component, and its grrreat.

now if only more games had a widescreen option........ :(

[orangemage]

i don't think monster ever made a component cable for the cube, only s-video and Composite

[schultzed]

I bought a set of the Xbox MS ones ($15 with GGC :D ) and a set of the good Monster ones ($40 at GS at the time). I looked at the results very carefully esp. with Ninja Gaiden. There was a small but noticible upgrade in the Monster ones. I was hoping to go with the cheaper ones but stayed with the Monster ones.

I have the Sony made component cables . . . got them for $17 on sale 2 years ago. Never thought to try the Monster ones . . . the PS2 just doesn't measure up graphically.

The Nintendo ones that I got off their website are actually very good somewhere between Monster and MS and Sony's standard ones. Definitely worth the $30 . . . very thick shielded central cable.

[sisco1986]

Closest Game Cube Monster Cable found on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41040&item=8164542 527&rd=1

uh thats well in good, but that's not what I'm trying to say. I'm talking about 3rd party support in stores or online (not an auction site). Monster doesn't make Component anymore, sure you CAN find them online but it's almost impossible to find them in stores since there phased out.

[bmulligan]

Closest Game Cube Monster Cable found on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41040&item=8164542 527&rd=1


That isn't a component cable. I have that exact cable and it's s-video and L/R stereo. The digital output outlet on the old gamecubes didn't output audio, only video, so any cable advertising audio is using the standard A/V outlet.

Component cables for the Gamecube are used in tandem with the standard cable to deliver audio.

Keep looking, please.

[jimbodan]

What's the reason behind not having 3rd party support for Component Cables?

There was 3rd party support for them! Most notably was Monster Cable!

was. Monster doesn't make them anymore. Obviously the reason would be because they phased out the digital out, but theres 3+ years of cubes with digital out.

Exactly 3+ years of support, and you can still buy other 3rd party DVI cables for the system now. Most 3rd party companies have started making them universal (PS2, Xbox, and GC all in one). Which makes it even more cost effective! If you want to take the time to unhook it from one system to the other.

I'd be very interested in a link for those 3 in 1 component cables, if the price is right I may buy a set for the future when I have a good TV.

[dwsscs]

I know its not the one you are talking about, I said closest one on ebay. I can go to Target, Walmart, etc., right now and buy a universal (all the systems) DVI cable.

A side note this cable at Target is $6.98 on clearance.

[dafoomie]

I know its not the one you are talking about, I said closest one on ebay. I can go to Target, Walmart, etc., right now and buy a universal (all the systems) DVI cable.

A side note this cable at Target is $6.98 on clearance.
If the closest one you can find is a composite (standard) cable, then you're making our point for us.

[bmulligan]

I know its not the one you are talking about, I said closest one on ebay. I can go to Target, Walmart, etc., right now and buy a universal (all the systems) DVI cable.

A side note this cable at Target is $6.98 on clearance.

I'd like to see a DVI cable too.

Something tells me you are misunderstanding the difference between :

s-video
COMPONENT
composite
DVI (digital and analog)

They are all different, btw.

[dwsscs]

Funny thing this is the closest link I found for the MadCatz one. I am talking about this one for all systems, except it doesn't support the Cube anymore. So if you want one I would go check the stores for the old version. This must be why Target is clearing theres out.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2697526&cat=118405&type=50& dept=2636&path=0%3A2636%3A37874%3A118402%3A118405

[bmulligan]

Still not good enough to prove a point. Component cables for Xbox and PS2 are plentiful, and always have been. Gamecube, however, is another story. In this day and age, there ought to be some proof around one of these internets to show a genuine 3d party component cable for the Gamecube.

When you give up looking, you can apoligize to everyone because your argument falls apart when you can't produce the proof.

[dwsscs]

I am going to concede on this one because maybe the one I am talking about may be discontinued now, but they are still in B&M stores. But I passed on these because I already owned one. Maybe Nintendo dropping this from the console changed current 3rd party cables. 3 years is still plenty of time to get the cable if you wanted it, even if you had to break down and buy it from Nintendo.

[Hunter55]

Does anyone know if the limted edition platinum gamecubes have support for component video?

[PhrostByte]

Allow a PS2 fanboy to chip in:

1] I wasn't aware that any current console supported DV-i out.

2] I don't know if any GC games take advantage of Progressive Scan, but I believe it is impossible without component cables. (or DV-i)

3] That really sucks goats that Nintendo is doing that... :\

[sisco1986]

Yeah, because the silly customer doesn't know what they want, Nintendo should tell them what they want. Because if they wanted our opinion, they'd give it to us.

That's how the industry works my friend. Theres got to be a shit load of people that want component cables yet can't get them because 1. There over priced and 2. it's only online to buy so big fucking surprise they it didn't sell well, and the lack of 3rd party support for the damn cable also sucks. Nintendo can do what ever the hell they want, and they have there own reason for it. All we can do is send little bitch letters (or bitch on a forum no nintendo rep will ever read) at them and take it up the ass because at the end of they day, Nintendo calls the shots. Does it piss me of the way they handled the Component cables? Yes, I wish I had a cable but I'm not paying almost 50 bucks for a damn cable and the lack of not being able to walk into a store to the buy them also yanks my balls, but you nor I can do a thing about it, That's why I'm trying to get across to people.

[injun]

maybe i am out of place here but who cares. Those of us that are fortunate enough to have enough money to afford a HDTV probably would have bought a gamecube around launch and not waited until the price drops. So the issue of digital feed is rather moot. I am guessing that those that are finally getting around to buying a gamecube are not likely to notice the drop in quality. and futhermore, it is ironic that you are bitching about a company being cheap, on a forum dedicated to cheapness...

[dwsscs]

Listen I was under the impression that they were still available. After looking on the web it looks like there are harder to find than I thought. However you have a chance to still get these in actual stores. So jump on it if you really want it so you don't have to pay ebay prices. Also its on back order at Nintendo for $30. I bet you can still get it there. I may head out to pick up some of the universal component ones to ebay in the short term.

[dwsscs]

maybe i am out of place here but who cares. Those of us that are fortunate enough to have enough money to afford a HDTV probably would have bought a gamecube around launch and not waited until the price drops. So the issue of digital feed is rather moot. I am guessing that those that are finally getting around to buying a gamecube are not likely to notice the drop in quality. and futhermore, it is ironic that you are bitching about a company being cheap, on a forum dedicated to cheapness...

I couldn't have said it better myself. Which I tried to many posts back. Welcome to CAG newbie.

[injun]

I couldn't have said it better myself. Which I tried to many posts back. Welcome to CAG newbie.

newb? i've been a forum reader for longer than you have... joined March 16th 2004. damn, reading: it's a helluva thing. :shock:

[dwsscs]

I couldn't have said it better myself. Which I tried to many posts back. Welcome to CAG newbie.

newb? i've been a forum reader for longer than you have... joined March 16th 2004. damn, reading: it's a helluva thing. :shock:

My bad! Sorry just looked at your post numbers, and the cheap ass newbie tag line! Don't take offense, I understand that a high or low post count doesn't necessarily mean wisdom or stupidity.

[chunk]

There is no universal component cables that will work with the gamecube. The gamecube doesn't actually output a component signal (YPbPr), it outputs the digital equivalent (YCbCr). The nintendo cable has some circuitry to convert YCbCr to YPbPr. This is why the cable is so fat where it plugs into the gamecube. This is also probably why it is so expensive.

Also, there has never been a 3rd party component cable for gamecube. Not discontinued, never existed.

It is a shame that nintendo is being a pain in the ass because I only buy progressive scan games. At least proscan support on GC is better than PS2 (even if the cables are hard to find). Still nothing has topped the dreamcast. Oh well, I imported my GC component cables from japan because they weren't available for the US launch.

Lastly, whoever thinks that gold-plated monster cables provide better video quality than cheapo MS cables needs to get their head checked. Gold plating doesn't do anything. If there is any difference at all it is indistinguishable.

[dserafin1986]

Did they ever make a platinum gamecube with component outs?

[jojoschump2000]

if you mean a Platinum Cube with Digital A/V out port, yes, they were out in the past. Picked mine up last year around thanksgiving during the Zelda Collector's bundle. Cheers.

[gsr]

Um... we will say it once more - NO ONE USED IT! The cost is way too high for the cables. No one purchased them.

It simply added cost to the GC that was not necessary.

S-video does the job with me on my PS2 and GC. The Xbox is on the HDTV set - I have component cables for that system.
Its easy for Nintendo to say that no one used it, when the cables were never really available. You pretty much have to import them if you want them at all, and at rediculous prices.

The feature never took off because they never supported it in the first place.

Very true, if the cable had actually been offered at retail locations I'm sure the number of users would have jumped significantly. I wanted one for years but never felt the drive to order one from Nintendo's site.

with that said....I got one used for 5.99 at Gamestop last month and it rocks :lol:

I find it hard to believe that you got a cable for 5.99 used..it sells for 35 bucks on nintendo's site

The digital to analog converter alone is worth more than 5.99. Are you sure you're not talking about s-video?

[bmulligan]

I find it hard to believe that you got a cable for 5.99 used..it sells for 35 bucks on nintendo's site

I actually found one at Gamestop used for 9.99 last year. I'd already gotten one from Nintendo so I gave it to a friend. Some idiot actually traded it into gamestop for probably $2 worth of credit.

[Vegan]

I recently bought a Cube and was very dismayed to read about the discontinuation of progressive scan support (which I didn't know about until I read it in my new Cube's manual). They give a number you can call if you still want component support. Does anyone know what the deal is? I imagine it's some sort of costly trade-in deal.... :(

[GreenMonkey]

Vegan:

They will offer you a refurb'ed GC of the old model that has component video support. No charge (not sure if you will get hit with shipping or not).

[greyzieoriental]

they will pay for ur shipping if u take it to an authorized fedex shipping center, they will even give u the address of ur closest one, i have about 4 in a 3 mile radius

they will give u a new 1 yr warranty, and free component cable.....



....jk bout the component cable

[GizmoGC]

they will pay for ur shipping if u take it to an authorized fedex shipping center, they will even give u the address of ur closest one, i have about 4 in a 3 mile radius

they will give u a new 1 yr warranty, and free component cable.....



....jk bout the component cable

You suck! :bomb:

[encendido5]

So will gamecube pro-scan games be supported on the Revolution? If so then there's nothing to worry, right?

[Vegan]

So will gamecube pro-scan games be supported on the Revolution? If so then there's nothing to worry, right?

That's a good point, I hadn't thought of that. And since the Cube controllers will work on the Rev, everyone's happy.

[GizmoGC]

Wow! I got my component cables today (Ordered them on the first), and all I can say is the picture is amazing. I have my Xbox hooked up with Component cables, but never noticed the difference. I popped in Paper Mario, and have the Blue/Green/Red cables hook up to one switchbox, and the Yellow hooked up to another. I switched back and fourht between them, and could not beleive the picture quality. Talk about bright, colorful, sexy, orgasmic colors.