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XboxMaster
02-16-2005, 12:48 AM
Oh man, where do I start? I'm gonna have to make a intro paragraph with my main subjects just so I don't forget them. The Truth commercials are stupid. This includes the cigarette and pot ones. The majority of people who are against pot are retarded.

OK, let's start on the Truth cigarette commercials. Yes, I realize that it's important to get the message out that cigarettes are bad, but Jesus Christ--it's fucking common sense by now! What really pisses me off is when they act like the companies that make and distribute them are so bad. They get someone who is really ill because of cigs or the close friend/relative of someone who dies because of them. What gets me is that these people are old enough to have quit when cigarettes were exposed for being very bad for you! It's your own damn fault!

Now on the pot ones. Oh god. They're are certain ones that are particularly retarded, but as a whole, they're just plain fucking stupid. Lemme nit-pick on two of them. The first one is the one where that girl hits that guy with her car and he comes back and haunts her. First, how stupid it is in the literal sense. The guy was wearing all black, it was night, and he was just walking in the middle of the fucking road. She had sight of him only right before she hit him! Now not so literal, how does being high cause car crashes? Pot may lower your mechanical skills, but not a substantial amount. Not like, say...alcohol! I know alcohol doesn't lower everyone's mechanical abilities a lot, but it does to enough people for drunk driving to be recognized as something that occurs often. Do you see "Don't Smoke and Drive" campaings? The other commercial is the one where the teenager refuses to go to his little brother's birthday 'cause he's high. I mean, WTF, do I really have to explain this one? I guess pot is supposed to put you in a bad mood? Oh, OK, is that why pot makes you laugh at things a lot easier and enhances your artistic abilities?

Besides the fact that the Truth anti-pot campaign's commercials are stupid, pot isn't nearly as bad as alcohol! Alcoholics are common, yet it's very rare for someone to become dependant on pot. I've already stated how much alcohol can effect your mechanical skills, which can be very hazardous if you're participating in certain activities. And on a less important note, drinking can make people depressed while pot can do everything but that! With all of this evidence very obvious, pot is still illegal and alcohol is legal. I think it's a small possibility that pot will eventually become legal, but I think there's no possiblity that alcohol will ever become legal. You know why? Because the alcohol industry is very profitable and of course, money is everything. This unfairness of laws cannot be helped, but what can be helped is ignorance, which I'm trieing to lower. Here's another thing that I despise. The majority of people that are against pot drink alcohol. I've already explained why I think alcohol is worse than pot, so you should be able to see why this pisses me off. They're still doing a drug, it's just not illegal, like pot is!

Now I'm predicting that a lot of people are probably going to combat my opinion. I'm kinda looking forward to it, I always like to combat opinions, but I ask you one thing. Keep it civilized. I tried not to be hostile in my above post, so I'd appreciate it if you could do the same.

doodle777_98
02-16-2005, 12:52 AM
Hm, okay.

bignick
02-16-2005, 12:53 AM
smoking is a personal choice. I have done promo work for the 2 of the largest cig manufactures in the world. It was awesome

JAMMR
02-16-2005, 01:00 AM
The pot ones aren't done by the truth, iirc.

XboxMaster
02-16-2005, 01:03 AM
The pot ones aren't done by the truth, iirc.


Argh. My bad.

cthcky33
02-16-2005, 01:07 AM
the anti-pot commercial in harold and kumar was shaq-fuing hilarious

RaekwonThaChef
02-16-2005, 01:10 AM
the anti-pot commercial in harold and kumar was shaq-fuing hilarious

Damn, beaten to it! I agree OP, the anti-pot commercials are pretty damn stupid.

dcfox
02-16-2005, 01:14 AM
NGE sucks :evil: j/k But about the Truth commercials, I actually agree with you. I find smoking to be a personal choice and I think that whoever does smoke already knows the consequences. One commercial that irritates me is the one with the lady using the voice box. Say what you like about me, but I feel no sympathy for her whatsoever. On the other hand some do bring up a good point. Like the one that said in NY cigarette companies are forced to sell fire safe cigarettes and yet these companies only sell them in NY and nowhere else.

SevereTireDamage
02-16-2005, 01:14 AM
the anti-pot commercial in harold and kumar was shaq-fuing hilarious

Yeah, it's almost unbelievable, that commercial was actually produced and aired on TV. Ah, the 80's. But I remember laughing at it even as a little kid.

Trakan
02-16-2005, 01:18 AM
I think there's no possiblity that alcohol will ever become legal.

You mean illegal?

beerguy961
02-16-2005, 01:21 AM
NGE sucks :evil: j/k But about the Truth commercials, I actually agree with you. I find smoking to be a personal choice and I think that whoever does smoke already knows the consequences. One commercial that irritates me is the one with the lady using the voice box. Say what you like about me, but I feel no sympathy for her whatsoever. On the other hand some do bring up a good point. Like the one that said in NY cigarette companies are forced to sell fire safe cigarettes and yet these companies only sell them in NY and nowhere else.

No, we have to constantly remind smokers that smoking is bad for them to annoy them and make them... smoke.. more?

Anyways, they are ridiculous and stupid, but most of the people I know who smoke pot are not the smartest people I know, so who knows...

msdmoney
02-16-2005, 01:23 AM
The truth ads I don't mind so much, smoking is bad for you and we all know that, but I don't mind ads trying to sway people not to smoke.

The pot commercials are just sad. You would think they could come up with some better reasons not to smoke pot. I can understand not smoking (pot) and driving, but it doesn't show anything wrong with smoking, just smoking pot when driving. Not of the commercials show serious adverse affects from smoking pot.

I have been to amsterdam and seen what a huge affect pot has.....or should I say doesn't have. IMO the govt should legalize it and (maybe) make money off of it.

willardhaven
02-16-2005, 01:28 AM
What I didn't get was the birthday party commercial... being high would make you want to be at a kid's birthday party. Bright colors, lots of snacks and toys, perhaps the clown scared the boy in the commercial?

MaskedPlague
02-16-2005, 01:32 AM
I have my own opinion on cigarette companies "not being so bad." While i agree that pretty much anyone under 35 has no excuse, tobacco companies claimed for years that their products were not addictive and did not cause cancer despite what most scientific evidence suggested even back in the 60's and 70's. I loved when they got smacked down by numerous lawsuits in the late 90's.

The penalties in many states where tobacco companies lost their suits included billions of dollars to be spent on anti-smoking advertising. Yes that is Billions. These anti-smoking ad peeps have enough money to last them a while.

The ads themselves, I agree, are lame. In many magazines I get and on some programs, I see the "Tobacco is Whack-o if you're a teen!" ads. How lame is that? I love it when ad agencies try to market to children and teens in public service announcements. If I were a teen, I would laugh these ads off. They're horrible!

And don't get me started on the whole pot smoking=terrorism campaign!

XboxMaster
02-17-2005, 12:01 AM
What I didn't get was the birthday party commercial... being high would make you want to be at a kid's birthday party. Bright colors, lots of snacks and toys, perhaps the clown scared the boy in the commercial?


:rofl:

Mr.Answer
02-17-2005, 12:09 AM
The point I get from those commercials is not 'well everyone should know by now that smoking is bad just give it up' but that for the decades that these people smoked and DIDN'T have the info like we do now but the companies did. What I take away from the commercials is to further enforce to people that the companies don't care about your health, the don't care about the damage they have caused, nor do they care about the damage that they will help continue to cause.

In the end if someone wants to smoke (in their own airspace) that is their own irrational choice,

I say keep the commercials coming! I like it when those kinds of questions are addressed.

moiety
02-17-2005, 12:14 AM
While i agree that pretty much anyone under 35 has no excuse, tobacco companies claimed for years that their products were not addictive and did not cause cancer despite what most scientific evidence suggested even back in the 60's and 70's. I loved when they got smacked down by numerous lawsuits in the late 90's.


This coincides with my opinion. I pretty much excuse anyone born before 1960~65, because they didn't know smoking was bad for their health. There were even doctors that said smoking was good for you! While possible, it's difficult for anyone to quit, and thus I excuse these people and have sympathy.

People born after '65 I don't excuse. The latest generations grew up knowing that smoking causes all sorts of problems. I'm not saying they shouldn't smoke, because it's their choice of action. But they are aware of the consequences. Again, it's their choice, but I have a hard time feeling sympathetic.

_heretic
02-17-2005, 12:19 AM
The point I get from those commercials is not 'well everyone should know by now that smoking is bad just give it up' but that for the decades that these people smoked and DIDN'T have the info like we do now but the companies did. What I take away from the commercials is to further enforce to people that the companies don't care about your health, the don't care about the damage they have caused, nor do they care about the damage that they will help continue to cause.

In the end if someone wants to smoke (in their own airspace) that is their own irrational choice,

I say keep the commercials coming! I like it when those kinds of questions are addressed.

I think it's pretty obvious that that's not the point of the commercials. What good would it do to have ads that say "Tobacco companies are mean and evil"? That may be true, but telling people this isn't really helping anyone.

Even though we might know that smoking is bad, there are a lot of people that don't seem to understand this, or actively flaunt the fact that they are doing something self-destructive. Most likely, the ads are aimed at those people, since they are starting to smoke, and some people feel the need to tell them not to.

I think the sad part is that the people who don't know that smoking is harmful or don't believe it probably won't learn anything from these ads, because they haven't already learned it from all the information that has already been spread, and the people who do smoke because it's harmful will only be further encouraged to smoke by these ads.

Mr.Answer
02-17-2005, 02:11 AM
The point I get from those commercials is not 'well everyone should know by now that smoking is bad just give it up' but that for the decades that these people smoked and DIDN'T have the info like we do now but the companies did. What I take away from the commercials is to further enforce to people that the companies don't care about your health, the don't care about the damage they have caused, nor do they care about the damage that they will help continue to cause.

In the end if someone wants to smoke (in their own airspace) that is their own irrational choice,

I say keep the commercials coming! I like it when those kinds of questions are addressed.

I think it's pretty obvious that that's not the point of the commercials. What good would it do to have ads that say "Tobacco companies are mean and evil"? That may be true, but telling people this isn't really helping anyone.
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You have some loose use of quotation marks there. I never said 'tobacco companies are mean and evil." Why manufacture a false quote? I stated that tobacco companies don't and basically have never cared for an individuals well being.

MorbidAngel4Life
02-17-2005, 02:20 AM
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