What do you think happens when you die?

[yellowaznboy]

Nothingness?

[JSweeney]

It would all depend on the judgement placed upon your soul. You would end up in either heaven, hell or purgatory.

[Mr. Anderson]

I think it's just endless sleep, but I hope I'm proved wrong.

[dcfox]

Reincarnation until you achieve Nirvana.

[godhatesjustyou]

i would say nothingness.

[JSweeney]

So we've got some athiests, agnostics, a Catholic and Buddhist so far.

[JSweeney]

Of course, this is a rather apropriate question to be asking on Easter isn't it?

[thatstoobad]

a few people are sad, some may be happy, and most people say "wow, he died? that's too bad."

but you won't know, since there won't be much going on. or anything at all. you'll just stop existing. which isn't that bad, since, you know, at least it won't suck.

[dcfox]

Easter? Never heard of it.

[Mr. Anderson]

I want the afterlife to be like the trippy area at the end of Majora's Mask. You know what I'm talking about. Just without the crazy kids with weird masks. *shudder*

[bfg9k]

Thanks for ruining the ending for me ;)

[Mr. Anderson]

Thanks for ruining the ending for me ;)

Now that was clever.

[st0neface]

I say you cease to exist.

[SneakyPenguin]

you get buried in the ground and the worms eat your rotting flesh. people move on, you turn to dust. endless cycle. nothing happens. it just ends.

[Gothic Walrus]

I don't know what happens - I consider myself to be agnostic. Still, some kind of afterlife would be great.

[WhipSmartBanky]

We're liquified and fed intravenously to the living.

[yellowaznboy]

Is anyone afraid of dying?

[SneakyPenguin]

i dont want to die, but i wouldnt say im afraid. ive come to terms that it will happen, and i cant prevent that. im just going to live while i still can. existence is too short to spoil.

anyone else this thread is getting very morbid very quickly?

[punqsux]

i think reincarnation as well

[JSweeney]

Is anyone afraid of dying?

No. Of course, a staunch belief in the afterlife does a great deal to remove that fear.

[bignick]

We will all find out sooner or later. Too bad we cant come back and let every one know. Maybe you just end up in the ground. Maybe Heaven, maybe Hell.

[godhatesjustyou]

i think dying would suck. like i said before, i believe in nothingness after death, so when you die..*poof* everything is just gone. now, even though you probably won't be able to..exist to think about the things you havn't done.

[JSweeney]

I feel deep pity for some of you.. not because you believe differntly that me, but because some of you
have a deep sense of dread concerning death.. it's a terrible thing to be living in fear of death.

[XboxMaster]

I kinda want it to be nothingness, you just cease to exist, like the files emptied out of your Recycle Bin. I'd sacrifice the paradise of heaven to dismiss the possibility of going to hell. The ancient Egyptian religion is awesome! You either go to heaven, or you just cease to exist. So you don't have so much pressure to get to heaven, and there's no suffering left to you if you do something real bad.

[Mr. Anderson]

I swear, if these boards go to the crapper, I'm so coming back and haunting all our cheap ass heirs.

[st0neface]

I figure why fear the inevitable. I would fear a rather painful death, but other than that, I live life like it was my last day on earth. I try to have as much fun as possible and not work too hard.

[eldad9]

Is anyone afraid of dying?

No. Of course, a staunch belief in the afterlife does a great deal to remove that fear.

Which is, of course, how people came to believe these stories in the first place.

[eldad9]

I kinda want it to be nothingness, you just cease to exist, like the files emptied out of your Recycle Bin.

They're not gone. They're MARKED as gone, so that the disk space can be reclaimed, but they can still be recovered until that time (and, if you have really expensive equipment, even a write or two later).

[Cracka]

you get burried and then turn into a ghost and haunt shit.... R0xXoR.. jk i dunno... i really dont believe in reincarnation, but we will never know if it really happens or not, because im guessing if u got reincarnated, u'd have no memory of the previous life... we could all actually be reincarnated right now and not know it..... I'M FREAKIN OUT MAN... THE SNASBERRIES TASTE LIKE SNASBERRIES

[bignick]

So what would make you go to heaven or hell?

[tyecko]

well in the simpsons bart came back as a butterfly and burned the school down

[msdmoney]

You get to play endless amounts of free video games.

[ex0]

I think there is a state of nothingness, sort of like before you were born.

[yellowaznboy]

I think there is a state of nothingness, sort of like before you were born.

I've never thought of it that way. :wink:

[JSweeney]

So what would make you go to heaven or hell?

That varies by the religion to which you adhere. If you don't believe in any religion, I figure that you end up in purgatory... unless your actions are so far beyond the pall of commonly accepted stadards... in which case you'd end up in Hell. Of course, if you believe in a religion, and commit the same acts, I'm certain you'd end up in Hell.

[JSweeney]

Just to clarify my terms... purgatory is basically nothingness, absent of both pain and joy.
Hell is eternal pain and suffering, and Heaven is eternal bliss.

[dcfox]

I think there is a state of nothingness, sort of like before you were born. By "before you were born" do you mean before physcially birth or before conception? Because even before birth, fetuses have been shown to have conciousness and can react to stimulus.

[XboxMaster]

What about the multi-religion thing? Like say Christianity was really the true, and right religion. What about all the followers of other religions of Islam, Buddhism, and so on? Alot of them haven't had the chance to fully grasp the concept of Christianity or have been so influenced by their country or whatever that their mind has blocked it out permanently? What happens to them? Like I said, I'm not saying Christianity is the right way to go. I don't really know what to believe, although I think some religions are ridiculous, but I won't discriminate in public, so I'll keep the names of those religions to myself. And obviously, no one can be certain of the answer to these questions, I guess I'm kinda asking your opinion or whatever.

[SolinariDotCom]

Dying sucks, but it'll happen. And when it does, it's all over. Shrug.

[JSweeney]

What about the multi-religion thing? Like say Christianity was really the true, and right religion. What about all the followers of other religions of Islam, Buddhism, and so on?

They'd still be able to go to heaven. They are devout in thier belief, and so long as they don't fall to a coruption of there religion (fundamentalist terrorists, etc), they all are likely to be correct. There is nothing that really shows that the supreme being they all believe in could not be one and the same.


Alot of them haven't had the chance to fully grasp the concept of Christianity or have been so influenced by their country or whatever that their mind has blocked it out permanently? What happens to them?

It depends. If they are truly devout in thier beliefs, and thier beliefs are founded in love, charity and not of hate, their genesis point is probably the same supreme diety. Of course, if they have no belief at all, they'd just end up in purgatory.. no pain, no suffering, but no joy either.


Like I said, I'm not saying Christianity is the right way to go. I don't really know what to believe, although I think some religions are ridiculous, but I won't discriminate in public, so I'll keep the names of those religions to myself.

One of the key precepts in many religions is that you respect and try to understand the beliefs of others. Of course, just because you try to respect and try to understand thier beliefs, you don't have to accept them.

[bignick]

One of the key precepts in many religions is that you respect and try to understand the beliefs of others. Of course, just because you try to respect and try to understand thier beliefs, you don't have to accept them.

And there it is..... Thats how I see things. If you are a good person, you go to Heaven. If you are a bad person you go to Hell.

[yogi99]

I think people become nothing after they die. They just disappear from the face of Earth. I think people only live once. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell and I don't believe in afterlife or reincarnation. I think Heaven, Hell and reincarnation are created by human to control human. Your definition of Purgatory sounds like Nirvana in Buddhism which is the highest achievement in Buddhism. But all of these are just my guess. Unless I have special power to see and understand all these I can't really say what can happen after people die.

[XboxMaster]

I think people become nothing after they die. They just disappear from the face of Earth. I think people only live once. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell and I don't believe in afterlife or reincarnation. I think Heaven, Hell and reincarnation are created by human to control human. Your definition of Purgatory sounds like Nirvana in Buddhism which is the highest achievement in Buddhism. But all of these are just my guess. Unless I have special power to see and understand all these I can't really say what can happen after people die.

That's what I was thinking about. Because think if there was no religion, I mean, what would stop ppl from just going out in public with a machine gun and blowing away innocent pedestrians. There's nothing to feel bad about because they don't really go anywhere, well, there is something to feel bad about. But still, there would be alot more chaos then there already is. Or maybe not, think of all the jihads (holy wars) going on in the Middle East, 9/11 was supposedly done because of religious actions (notice the supposedly).

[ex0]

I think there is a state of nothingness, sort of like before you were born. By "before you were born" do you mean before physcially birth or before conception? Because even before birth, fetuses have been shown to have conciousness and can react to stimulus.

Before you/your fetus even came into existance.

[MorganWebbLover]

I too believe in Reincarnation energy never dies it just changes forum . If any of your ever get the chance you should read There Is a River: The Story of Edgar Cayce it's very enlightening .


That varies by the religion to which you adhere. If you don't believe in any religion, I figure that you end up in purgatory... unless your actions are so far beyond the pall of commonly accepted stadards... in which case you'd end up in Hell. Of course, if you believe in a religion, and commit the same acts, I'm certain you'd end up in Hell.


JSweeney I think it's safe to say that you are one of the more intelligent people on this board but your views are so ridgid and one sided. Can you honestly say that If you don't believe in any organized religion then you end up in purgatory ?

I don't believe in Hell or purgatory do you honestly think that god would punish the wicked and Evil what kind of all mighty being would do that ?

I think we have many Lifetimes to get whatever lessons were here to do right . Once that process is complete we evolve in to a state of Nirvana

[Reality's Fringe]

That's what I was thinking about. Because think if there was no religion, I mean, what would stop ppl from just going out in public with a machine gun and blowing away innocent pedestrians. There's nothing to feel bad about because they don't really go anywhere, well, there is something to feel bad about. But still, there would be alot more chaos then there already is. Or maybe not, think of all the jihads (holy wars) going on in the Middle East, 9/11 was supposedly done because of religious actions (notice the supposedly).[/quote]


That's one of the best things about some religions; the promoted moral fiber. Aside form that though, I think religion promotes something else that sis equally healthy. Everyone knows that life is one big screw over after the other, and sometimes it can get pretty hard. I knew a coworker who was -really- close to eating a hollow point; both parents were killed in a home invasion, his girlfriend was cheating on him, someone was trying to frame him for cheating on his thesis, and he was close to losing his job if he couldn't get productivity up. At one point he broke down at work and started crying and claiming that he was just going to end it so no one would have to put up with him anymore. No, I'm a Christian and I try not to be militant and self-serving about it, but my beliefs dictate that I'm not about to let a man kill himself over such trivial matters. Well, a few other coworkers who I knew were christian and myself basically got him aside and told him that he'd tried everything else so why not try faith. So, latter that night we went to a local church of ours whose sermon that night was (coincidence?) about eternal life and the Sacrifice. The sermon kinda went on and he was looking skeptical, that is until we got to the part about the Sacrifice. The reaction happened when the Rev quoted from John 3:16:
"For god so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life." He started sobbing uncontrolably, I mean, literally he was shaking. The Rev stopped the sermon and came down to talk to him. If I ever need validation in my faith, I'll just think back to when he told the congregation:
"I've never had anyone love me that much." He accepted Jesus the same night and the next time I saw him; he looked rested and was smiling.
I'm not telling you this to try and convert you or anything so self-serving as trying to make myself seem like I saved a life. I brought this up because religion not only bounds people with moral fiber, but it also can make one feel validated and loved. Right or wrong, religion saved that man. In more ways than one.

[RedvsBlue]

Wierd I was just thinking about this like 2 days ago. I guess I'm a little scared of death but more than anything I'll be sad about my own death. I mean I'm only 21 and I have so many precious memories that I look back on and smile and enjoy. If I just stop existing those memories end with me. Its just so final.

Another thing is that I'm such a curious person I can't wait to know what's out there. I want to know what will happen with our race. Will it end? Where are we going? Also I find it depressing that more than likely I'll never be able to leave this planet. Maybe I'll get to go to space if those commercial space vacations that they keep talking about ever happen but I'll probably never be able to stand on another planet and see how amazing and different it can be. I hate thinking that no matter what I do there are certain things I'll never be able to do in my lifetime.

[Cubanx]

What do you think happens when you die?

I get heated to 2000 Fahrenheit.

[SolinariDotCom]

You fellas realize that the presence of religion isn't necessary to teach proper morals, yes?

[yellowaznboy]

Wierd I was just thinking about this like 2 days ago. I guess I'm a little scared of death but more than anything I'll be sad about my own death. I mean I'm only 21 and I have so many precious memories that I look back on and smile and enjoy. If I just stop existing those memories end with me. Its just so final.

Another thing is that I'm such a curious person I can't wait to know what's out there. I want to know what will happen with our race. Will it end? Where are we going? Also I find it depressing that more than likely I'll never be able to leave this planet. Maybe I'll get to go to space if those commercial space vacations that they keep talking about ever happen but I'll probably never be able to stand on another planet and see how amazing and different it can be. I hate thinking that no matter what I do there are certain things I'll never be able to do in my lifetime.

This is exactly how I feel.

"The faster death goes, the faster evolution goes" - Annie Dillard in Fecundity

That's just how the world works. It is death that spins the globe.

[Reality's Fringe]

You fellas realize that the presence of religion isn't necessary to teach proper morals, yes?

Yeah, but it helps.

[jdevlin7756]

yeah, because every religion free system(communism) has been such a roaring success. SolarniDotCom you should support your statments. Without some form of backup or reasoning your opinion is just that.

"True religion and true morality are inseparably bound up with each other. Religion is to morality what water is to the seed that is sown in the soil."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

[jdevlin7756]

By the way the previous quote can be found in the paper "GANDHI ON RELIGION IN PUBLIC LIFE" by GEORGE KARUVELIL.
http://www.crvp.org/book/Series03/IIIB-5/chapter_iii.htm

[Mr_hockey66]

Its game over!

[dcfox]

Religion may help strengthen moral values but I don't think that the the two are inseparably bound. If that was the case than you couldn't explain morality in animals especially chimps and other social primates. Even more obivious is the sense of morality atheist feel or live by.

[JSweeney]

That's true. Just because your a moral person doesn't mean you are religious.... and just because you are religious doesn't make you moral.

In fact, I find nothing more disgusting than those who are relgious and ammoral, yet use thier religion as a shield.

[SneakyPenguin]

atheist here, and i feel im pretty moral. ive never stole or hurt anyone. i lie, but never any thing major. and religion can be bad for your morals. not trying to offend anyone but this (http://christiananswers.net/gospel/goodperson.html) pisses me off.

[Southberm]

like all other beings, when you die your energy is transported to a new vessel. But whether you have a soul that goes to heaven or hell, i really dont know. But for now im all with JUDAISM




SHALOM

[SneakyPenguin]

like all other beings, when you die your energy is transported to a new vessel. But whether you have a soul that goes to heaven or hell, i really dont know. But for now im all with JUDAISM




SHALOM

thats sorta funny that you have eric "you god damn jew" cartman as your avatar.

[Southberm]

I think people become nothing after they die. They just disappear from the face of Earth. I think people only live once. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell and I don't believe in afterlife or reincarnation. I think Heaven, Hell and reincarnation are created by human to control human. Your definition of Purgatory sounds like Nirvana in Buddhism which is the highest achievement in Buddhism. But all of these are just my guess. Unless I have special power to see and understand all these I can't really say what can happen after people die.

That's what I was thinking about. Because think if there was no religion, I mean, what would stop ppl from just going out in public with a machine gun and blowing away innocent pedestrians. There's nothing to feel bad about because they don't really go anywhere, well, there is something to feel bad about. But still, there would be alot more chaos then there already is. Or maybe not, think of all the jihads (holy wars) going on in the Middle East, 9/11 was supposedly done because of religious actions (notice the supposedly).
hey you do realize that religion is the main cause for war right?

[Southberm]

like all other beings, when you die your energy is transported to a new vessel. But whether you have a soul that goes to heaven or hell, i really dont know. But for now im all with JUDAISM




SHALOM

thats sorta funny that you have eric "you god damn jew" cartman as your avatar.
yea i no how ironic. Whatever cartman is still funnier than homer simpson, and peter griffin and all those other alpha male animated characters.

[JSweeney]

No... People hating one another and wanting to kill them is the main cause of war. In thier hatred, they try to use religion as a justification to themselves why they are doing it.

[Southberm]

then what is the reason for all the jews suffering pre-WW2 back thousands of years. We didnt do anything to the egyptians or the christians in the middle ages

[Southberm]

and mel gibson is a piece of shit

[maxgle]

Jesus is the way, the turth and the life and he rose from dead. I will say, I am quite safe in him :-)

[Southberm]

everyone has the right to their own opinion(as i eat my matza balls and gefilta fish)

[SolinariDotCom]

yeah, because every religion free system(communism) has been such a roaring success. SolarniDotCom you should support your statments. Without some form of backup or reasoning your opinion is just that.

"True religion and true morality are inseparably bound up with each other. Religion is to morality what water is to the seed that is sown in the soil."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

Not all Communist states are Atheist.

[JSweeney]

then what is the reason for all the jews suffering pre-WW2 back thousands of years. We didnt do anything to the egyptians or the christians in the middle east

That would be:
1. Forced into slavery by the greater military power of the Egyptians.
2. Forced from thier new land by Roman Conquerors.
3. Became a large displaced group taking up residence in many other european and middle eastern countries.

The reason for this would be: Greed, Lust for power, and many other ills from the conquerors and the majority populations in the areas the displaced Jews took up residence. To say that the Jewish were hated in Europe and the Middle East only because of thier religion is trivializing a very difficult subject.

[JSweeney]

yeah, because every religion free system(communism) has been such a roaring success. SolarniDotCom you should support your statments. Without some form of backup or reasoning your opinion is just that.

"True religion and true morality are inseparably bound up with each other. Religion is to morality what water is to the seed that is sown in the soil."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

Not all Communist states are Atheist.

Then they aren't communist states, they are theocracies. One of the tenants of Marxist Communism is that religion is the "opiate of the masses".

[Southberm]

sry i meant christians in the middle ages

[dcfox]

then what is the reason for all the jews suffering pre-WW2 back thousands of years. We didnt do anything to the egyptians or the christians in the middle eastI don't think any religion promotes violence against any other group of peoples. The reason for violence against the Jews during the time of the Egyptians may have something to do with control. At that time the government of Egypt was centered around a religion which placed the pharoh in control. If the Egyptians allowed another religion to thrive it could upset the control the pharoh held over its people. As with most governments that claim power through a divine source, religious tolerance is not something they practice to often. It has nothing to do with the religion but rather with the people in power.

[JSweeney]

sry i meant christians in the middle ages

Even then, it is not so trivial a case to say it was all "based on religion". You know, you'd be much better off if you got your history lessons from sources other that South Park's satire of "The Passion".

[JSweeney]

then what is the reason for all the jews suffering pre-WW2 back thousands of years. We didnt do anything to the egyptians or the christians in the middle eastI don't think any religion promotes violence against any other group of peoples. The reason for violence against the Jews during the time of the Egyptians may have something to do with control. At that time the government of Egypt was centered around a religion which placed the pharoh in control. If the Egyptians allowed another religion to thrive it could upset the control the pharoh held over its people. As with most governments that claim power through a divine source, religious tolerance is not something they practice to often. It has nothing to do with the religion but rather with the people in power.

Yes.. it would be even more pronounced in the Egyptian society.. because monarchs weren't ruling by devine right (the belief that God made them the monarch) but rather under the idea that the pharoh was god.

[Southberm]

that not where i learn my history jackass, if you were in my position you would understand me

[JSweeney]

Yes, because it serves everyone in the present so well to dwell on the past. Dwelling on the legacy of slavery has done so much to help the US get past it's race relations issues.

[defender]

you get buried in the ground and the worms eat your rotting flesh. people move on, you turn to dust. endless cycle. nothing happens. it just ends.

This is why I am getting cremated. I think I want my ashes spread into the desert and given back to Shai-Halud.

[SolinariDotCom]

yeah, because every religion free system(communism) has been such a roaring success. SolarniDotCom you should support your statments. Without some form of backup or reasoning your opinion is just that.

"True religion and true morality are inseparably bound up with each other. Religion is to morality what water is to the seed that is sown in the soil."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

Not all Communist states are Atheist.

Then they aren't communist states, they are theocracies. One of the tenants of Marxist Communism is that religion is the "opiate of the masses".

Communism sounds pretty good in an ideal world - it's not my fault people are too weak. (Take note that the latter comment doesn't directly refer to the former comment - in fact, it refers to religion specifically and not "communism")

[dcfox]

Yes, because it serves everyone in the present so well to dwell on the past. Dwelling on the legacy of slavery has done so much to help the US get past it's race relations issues.

As a member of a minority group I understand the need to know past grievances and appreciate hardships endured by those who came before us. But you're right in saying that dwelling on history does not serve in anyone's best interest.

[XboxMaster]

atheist here, and i feel im pretty moral. ive never stole or hurt anyone. i lie, but never any thing major. and religion can be bad for your morals. not trying to offend anyone but this (http://christiananswers.net/gospel/goodperson.html) pisses me off.

See, shit like that website your link goes to is what makes me think heaven and hell or even God don't exist. I have no idea how many times I've used God's name in a cuss word or anger. Hell, I was even stupid enough to blame him for my misfortunes and cuss at him directly. I've lusted at women, been jealous, stole, and some of those other things. I'm only 12, and by what I see, I'm supposed to go to hell. So how many ppl do you think are in heaven when those rules apply, huh? I think God has either become more leniant or there about one million ppl in heaven, which isn't alot since the start of humanity.

I think people become nothing after they die. They just disappear from the face of Earth. I think people only live once. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell and I don't believe in afterlife or reincarnation. I think Heaven, Hell and reincarnation are created by human to control human. Your definition of Purgatory sounds like Nirvana in Buddhism which is the highest achievement in Buddhism. But all of these are just my guess. Unless I have special power to see and understand all these I can't really say what can happen after people die.

That's what I was thinking about. Because think if there was no religion, I mean, what would stop ppl from just going out in public with a machine gun and blowing away innocent pedestrians. There's nothing to feel bad about because they don't really go anywhere, well, there is something to feel bad about. But still, there would be alot more chaos then there already is. Or maybe not, think of all the jihads (holy wars) going on in the Middle East, 9/11 was supposedly done because of religious actions (notice the supposedly).
hey you do realize that religion is the main cause for war right?

Double check quotes before you are so quick to make conclusions, look at the bold lettering in my quote you contradicted.

No... People hating one another and wanting to kill them is the main cause of war. In thier hatred, they try to use religion as a justification to themselves why they are doing it.

That is true in some cases. Like the Europeans using Christian support for colonization of Africa as justification of doing it. But alot of hate comes from religious beliefs and reasons, so that post is not entirely correct.

[JSweeney]

That is true in some cases. Like the Europeans using Christian support for colonization of Africa as justification of doing it. But alot of hate comes from religious beliefs and reasons, so that post is not entirely correct.

I disagree. It's the bastardization of those beliefs that is used for that justification. The beliefs themselves are not wrong... it's those taking them out of context for thier own uses that are wrong.

[JSweeney]

Yes, because it serves everyone in the present so well to dwell on the past. Dwelling on the legacy of slavery has done so much to help the US get past it's race relations issues.

As a member of a minority group I understand the need to know past grievances and appreciate hardships endured by those who came before us. But you're right in saying that dwelling on history does not serve in anyone's best interest.

Yes. It is probably best that I clarify that. It's very important for everyone to have a knowledge of the past, and be able to understand the hardships endured by all, as thier missteps show us how to act in a manner that better serves us all.

That said, I've never understood exactly why it's ok to make fun of the mistreatment and past of some groups, yet taboo to mention others?

[XboxMaster]

That is true in some cases. Like the Europeans using Christian support for colonization of Africa as justification of doing it. But alot of hate comes from religious beliefs and reasons, so that post is not entirely correct.

I disagree. It's the bastardization of those beliefs that is used for that justification. The beliefs themselves are not wrong... it's those taking them out of context for thier own uses that are wrong.

Uh, I'm trying to understand that post, kinda complicated. If I'm understanding you, you're saying that, um, I withdraw from this discussion, I'm not fully understanding it.

[WhipSmartBanky]

I'm only 12...

You're not allowed to post here. So says COPPA.

[XboxMaster]

I'm only 12...

You're not allowed to post here. So says COPPA.

Go find something else to bitch about. Oh wait, that's all you do, then I guess it's fair game.

[drone8888]

Check out Alanwatts.com

Read some of his literature. Its just plain common sense.

As for where you go?...? You're already everywhere, so wherever you imagine, you should arrive.

I think if you beleive in God, and heaven, thats where you'll be willed to.

If you beleive in reincarnation, you may have your pick of the litter.

Its kinda like "What Dreams May Come", but not so fixated, and a little more convincing.

Too bad we're all the same. I guess thats why this game is so fun.
Finding the nostalgia, amongst all of ourselves, to create the sense of re-meshing again.

See you later god, and you too,..god.

[st0neface]

I'm only 12...

You're not allowed to post here. So says COPPA.

Go find something else to bitch about. Oh wait, that's all you do, then I guess it's fair game.

If I'm not mistaken, you were the one bitching about people being technical advisors. Also, what WSB does is hardly bitching, its generally making humorous observations and commenting on them. Whats a 12 year-old? 5th grade, 6th grade? That would be about the age where you wouldn't say anything like this to people in person, but put on the internet, you use anonymity as a shield to hide behind. This is one of the reasons I can't stand pre-pubescent kids making annoying posts.

[JSweeney]

I hope XboxMaster followed the Underage user process for getting a user account... because you know that CheapyD is going to see this now... and he's not going to play around when he's coming up againt COPPA.

[dcfox]

I'm only 12...

You're not allowed to post here. So says COPPA.
Its about time this topic got some levity :D

[XboxMaster]

I'm only 12...

You're not allowed to post here. So says COPPA.

Go find something else to bitch about. Oh wait, that's all you do, then I guess it's fair game.

If I'm not mistaken, you were the one bitching about people being technical advisors. Also, what WSB does is hardly bitching, its generally making humorous observations and commenting on them. Whats a 12 year-old? 5th grade, 6th grade? That would be about the age where you wouldn't say anything like this to people in person, but put on the internet, you use anonymity as a shield to hide behind. This is one of the reasons I can't stand pre-pubescent kids making annoying posts.

Take a look at that Technical Advisors thread again, I clerified my posts on that thread.

Anyway, it's 7th grade and I wouldn't be posting "annoying" posts if WBS hadn't brought out the fact that I was 12 and used it against me. Since that post, I had been contributing to the main subject of this thread, the opinion of where you go when you die. And I was enjoying having an intelligent back and forth conversation with JSweeny, till it was screwed up.

[WhipSmartBanky]

Anyway, it's 7th grade and I wouldn't be posting "annoying" posts if WBS hadn't brought out the fact that I was 12 and used it against me. Since that post, I had been contributing to the main subject of this thread, the opinion of where you go when you die. And I was enjoying having an intelligent back and forth conversation with JSweeny, till it was screwed up.

Brought out the fact and used it against you? You're the one who posted it originally, dumbass!

http://cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=122346&highlight=#122346

atheist here, and i feel im pretty moral. ive never stole or hurt anyone. i lie, but never any thing major. and religion can be bad for your morals. not trying to offend anyone but this (http://christiananswers.net/gospel/goodperson.html) pisses me off.

See, shit like that website your link goes to is what makes me think heaven and hell or even God don't exist. I have no idea how many times I've used God's name in a cuss word or anger. Hell, I was even stupid enough to blame him for my misfortunes and cuss at him directly. I've lusted at women, been jealous, stole, and some of those other things. I'm only 12, and by what I see, I'm supposed to go to hell. So how many ppl do you think are in heaven when those rules apply, huh? I think God has either become more leniant or there about one million ppl in heaven, which isn't alot since the start of humanity.

I think people become nothing after they die. They just disappear from the face of Earth. I think people only live once. I don't believe in Heaven or Hell and I don't believe in afterlife or reincarnation. I think Heaven, Hell and reincarnation are created by human to control human. Your definition of Purgatory sounds like Nirvana in Buddhism which is the highest achievement in Buddhism. But all of these are just my guess. Unless I have special power to see and understand all these I can't really say what can happen after people die.

That's what I was thinking about. Because think if there was no religion, I mean, what would stop ppl from just going out in public with a machine gun and blowing away innocent pedestrians. There's nothing to feel bad about because they don't really go anywhere, well, there is something to feel bad about. But still, there would be alot more chaos then there already is. Or maybe not, think of all the jihads (holy wars) going on in the Middle East, 9/11 was supposedly done because of religious actions (notice the supposedly).
hey you do realize that religion is the main cause for war right?

Double check quotes before you are so quick to make conclusions, look at the bold lettering in my quote you contradicted.

No... People hating one another and wanting to kill them is the main cause of war. In thier hatred, they try to use religion as a justification to themselves why they are doing it.

That is true in some cases. Like the Europeans using Christian support for colonization of Africa as justification of doing it. But alot of hate comes from religious beliefs and reasons, so that post is not entirely correct.

[6669]

Well, when i die, I just go to the main menu and load my game

[dcfox]

Well, when i die, I just go to the main menu and load my game

Or if you're a pc gamer you could always do quick load. Personally I avoid death altogether and play with god mode on.

[Missingdata]

Is anyone afraid of dying?


No..... b/c dying is just the beginning of a new Life...

Can u feel me?

[yellowaznboy]

Word.

[yogi99]

When you die you log out from this world. I believe no matter what religion you believe in when you die you go to whatever place you are suppose to go. I believe there are natural laws governing everything in the Universe and those laws holds no matter what you believe in. For example, gravity holds whether you believe in it or not. I agree with Xboxmaster that not many people are going to Heaven because most people are sinful one way or the other.

[SneakyPenguin]

i think that if people are a generally good person, based on the morals of life, not the morals of any religion, then the ideal afterlife would be a personal heaven. cause i always wondered, would a masochist enjoy heaven? a personal heaven/hell would be more appropriate. but i believe in non-existence after death, so this is just wishful thinking.

[WhipSmartBanky]

Has anyone read Piers Anthony's On A Pale Horse?

[Mr. Anderson]

Has anyone read Piers Anthony's On A Pale Horse?

No, but I read Piers Anthony Killobite. That shit was weird.

[x0thedeadzone0x]

Getting back on this topic...

This is an extremely controversial topic so anything said here should not be taken personally or in an offensive light. Everyone has the right to have their own opinions about religion, this is actually one of the most controversial issues available (not including politics, war, abortion, etc)

I really don't know what would happen when you die. I believe that this planet was made for human beings to enjoy, a chance to survive and have a wonderful and happy life. No one really knows the truth about reincarnation or being reborn, because no one is around to tell us. Many have claimed that they have seen a "white light" because these people have been revived from some kind of hospital and furtively argue that there is such thing as a God, for Christians, anyways.
I believe that if you were a truly good person, you did more right then wrong in your life, and you had a kind, modest soul, and you didn't mean to do wrong or bad, you will be rewarded in some kind of way either during your life or "after".
I believe that if you are a truly bad person, such as raping innocent babies, slaughtering people, and have an evil soul, meaning to do much more bad then good, that you will pay in some kind of way, either during your life or "after".
No one can know for sure, but I belive that because goodness should be justified in another way then self-reward if you made an effort to be the best person you can be.
All controversial opinions aside, I didn't mean to offend anyone in my statement, its just simply what I believe.

[thingsfallnapart]

-----kind of off topic but an intresting question i need to bring up.

dont think its crazy but im just fishing for answers, anyone else in here have a family member contact them in a dream before death? that's the only reason i believe in an afterlife of some kind. but i was 8, and they say sometimes young children have a way of knowing those kinds of things...

[dcfox]

you're not crazy. Alot people have premonitions of loved ones before they die. Its probably more common than you think. Its along the same lines of when you're thinking about calling someone and the person calls you up instead. If you believe in a soul than its not a hard reach to believe that a psychic connection can exist between two people. Whether these things are just coincidences or not is in the eye of the beholder. Fortunately I've never had anyone close to me die so I can't speak from experience.

[Quackzilla]

Nothing. When the neural activity that you call "life" stops, nothing happens. You are just gone.
You have no more thoughts, feelings, or anything.
There will not even be nothing, because you will no longer be able to observe that nothing.

This Happy and Optimistic thought of the day was brought to you by truth.
The Truth Hurts.

[eldad9]

I believe that this planet was made for human beings to enjoy, a chance to survive and have a wonderful and happy life.

What about those billions of other planets? Why were they made?

Keep in mind that we can't even detect practically any of them.

[A7las]

see, i don't know how i feel about the whole afterlife thing...
like.. i have personally seen ghosts, so that kinda puts a spin on the whole afterlife thing. because if ghosts exist then there must be some sort of afterlife..
and when my grandmother died i was kind of upset about it because i felt that i wasn't there enough before she died, like i didn't really show that i cared. and i mean, i felt like that for a while after she died. but then when i actually talked to someone about it for the first time, i had a dream about her that nite in which i was able to tell her how much i did love her and that i was sorry i wasn't there more. now, i understand how one can say that i only had the dream because i just talked about it that day, but i mean i had been thinking about it for a while but only when i verbalized it did i have a dream about it.. so maybe she was able to hear it or something and then came to me in my sleep.
so i don't know, maybe we're ghosts until we feel that we can rest or something.. but i know that i definitly believe in ghosts but i'm just not too sure what happens after that..

[Hunter55]

see, i don't know how i feel about the whole afterlife thing...
like.. i have personally seen ghosts, so that kinda puts a spin on the whole afterlife thing. because if ghosts exist then there must be some sort of afterlife..
and when my grandmother died i was kind of upset about it because i felt that i wasn't there enough before she died, like i didn't really show that i cared. and i mean, i felt like that for a while after she died. but then when i actually talked to someone about it for the first time, i had a dream about her that nite in which i was able to tell her how much i did love her and that i was sorry i wasn't there more. now, i understand how one can say that i only had the dream because i just talked about it that day, but i mean i had been thinking about it for a while but only when i verbalized it did i have a dream about it.. so maybe she was able to hear it or something and then came to me in my sleep.
so i don't know, maybe we're ghosts until we feel that we can rest or something.. but i know that i definitly believe in ghosts but i'm just not too sure what happens after that..

Have u really seen ghosts? Seriously, I wanna hera about the experience...please go on

[drone8888]

The concept of time, is silly.

Its just a box, built around us, to keep everyone from living.

You think everything that is told to you, is valuable and neccessary. Every experience is unique to you. Do you really think that you are a tool?

So you really think you were born to work? To play? To do a specific task??

What do you think?

Why does there have to be something? A goal, is like the concept of time.
The same way a highway is, and mathematics.

We are taught, and have been taught, that everything is logical. This, after being told that there is some omnipotent being, that uses illogical, uncalculable MAGIC.
What are we to do??

Stay confused, and follow the flock.

Thats why I'm a DRONE. Only on the outside, though.
Close your eyes. Close your ears. Don't concentrate on anything. Free your deity, from its wonderful dream.
The vessel, isn't a vessel at all. It isn't here to take you anywhere.

Work out at the gym everyday. Eat right. Don't smoke. Don't drink.
What will this get you?? A free token, in the game, called life.

Your player is just that. YOU are the hub. We are all like supernodes, or relay racers. Passing the conscienceness baton, or packet, if you will, to the whole commune, imagined as our world.

Have fun. Do what you want, no matter what. Starting from scratch, is the beginning of your acceptance, of what you are.....nothing.
Nothing made everything, so don't feel down.

Don't confuse wrong and right. These are concepts, like the fence of time.
Confounding you, to serve a useless purpose. Making the game much easier, for the already adept players, to advance.

Even though they are advancing to nothing more, than the same conclusion, they're game has been much better played than those who allow them to control their lives.

You are GOD. We are one. You can't argue this. It is common sense!


Alanwatts.com, listen a little, although, its a bit different.