Amplitude, Freq....masterpiece??

[pRINCESS-iSABELA]

I don't know about you guys, but that's one of the best games in gaming history in my opinion, Frequency the same thing.
I beat Insane difficulty, and it's a shame you can't nlock new things.....
did you guys beat this game, and what you're thinking.
frequency had this certain feeling of underground music, and Amplitude is more mainstreamed a bit.
we need more games like this F & A - state of art.
which one you prefer??

[javeryh]

I don't get it. I have no rhythm.

[RelentlessRolento]

I own 3 copies of Frequency and dont think its that amazing... yes, it has alot of "amazing" things about it, but it really has no legs when stading up against Rez.

[Alpha2]

I think I prefered Amp more than Freq because of several specific songs, and I felt the reaction time of the beats was better (also avatar customization looked cooler with the 3D character).

Difficulty wise Amp was a bitch and a half compared to Freq. Both are insane at time but I could atleast get through most of the songs on normal in Freq with a respectable score... Amp had drawn blood by the 3rd song.

[ViolentLee]

After playing Amplitude, I couldn't play Freq anymore. It was a big leap. Amp is definitely one of my favorite rhythm games, and I've played 'em all. Anyone ever play online? To this day, it's the only PS2 game I've put in any time with online.

By the way, I wasn't impressed with Rez.

[rocksolidaudio]

how the fuck did you beat insane? but yes, i think amplitude is probably the finest rhythm game ever made.

[GenDV138]

I liked Frequency more, it had more songs that I liked and the Freq maker was cool since you could make all kinds of things, I made Starscream from Transformers.

[integralsmatic]

i liked amp it was good but i still prefer Beatmania IIDX...even tho AMP has RUN DMC.."IM the king of Rock there aint non higher, sucker mcs should call me sire to form a rock kingdom you must use fire i wont stop rocking until i retire"

[regisphilbi0]

Both are great games. Maybe not masterpieces, but still really good games.

[t65will]

I liked these games a lot too, but I've always wondered - If they made a new sequel, what would they call it? Phase? Modulation?

[RelentlessRolento]

After playing Amplitude, I couldn't play Freq anymore. It was a big leap. Amp is definitely one of my favorite rhythm games, and I've played 'em all. Anyone ever play online? To this day, it's the only PS2 game I've put in any time with online.

By the way, I wasn't impressed with Rez.

it seems that alot of people that like the amplitude series or DDR type of music games have a harder time enjoying Rez at all. but, if that's what you like, fine by me :D

I just hope that this isn't ported to the PSP... though it would make alot of people who will/have posted here happy if they do :wink:

[lionheart4life]

I agree they are both amazing games. Playing song after song on the hardest levels trying to just complete it is so addicting. I believe Wavelength was the popular rumor for the name of a sequel, but I've heard that the developers have since confirmed that they will not be working on a sequel, at least in the near future. It's a shame, I would love to have some new songs for it.

[moiety]

I liked Amplitude better. The music was great and the graphics were better. I found it easier to move between the tracks and easier to distinguish between them.

[antichameleon]

Man, am I glad I got Amplitude for $3 at TRU last month.

[CouRageouS]

I played Amp before Freq and I couldn't stand Freq that much. I don't like the old arena style but I stilled played it for awhile before just going back to Amp.

[ViolentLee]

After playing Amplitude, I couldn't play Freq anymore. It was a big leap. Amp is definitely one of my favorite rhythm games, and I've played 'em all. Anyone ever play online? To this day, it's the only PS2 game I've put in any time with online.

By the way, I wasn't impressed with Rez.

it seems that alot of people that like the amplitude series or DDR type of music games have a harder time enjoying Rez at all. but, if that's what you like, fine by me :D

I just hope that this isn't ported to the PSP... though it would make alot of people who will/have posted here happy if they do :wink:

I doubt there will ever be a sequel to those games. Despite critical acclaim, they didn't sell for crap. I talked to the creative director at Harmonix (the developer) about it. Kind of sad story. Harmonix is doing good with Karaoke Revolution right now, though.

[Mr. Anderson]

After playing Amplitude, I couldn't play Freq anymore. It was a big leap. Amp is definitely one of my favorite rhythm games, and I've played 'em all. Anyone ever play online? To this day, it's the only PS2 game I've put in any time with online.

By the way, I wasn't impressed with Rez.

Yes! We should play online some time. Just PM or reply here, we can set up a time or date.

[Rig]

I've never been able to get into either one, although I own both. I am a fan of the music genre, but there are better games out there for me...

And I too, didn't really enjoy Rez much.

[swetooth9]

yes amp is great..i havent really played online yet though

[pRINCESS-iSABELA]

I've never been able to get into either one, although I own both. I am a fan of the music genre, but there are better games out there for me...

And I too, didn't really enjoy Rez much.

hey guys!! - what the $&*@# are you talking about??
REZ is not a music game!!
it's like saying Jet Set Radio was a music game !!

music in those games is extremely important, and it's a charm - but those aren't music games at all, you may beat REZ without volume turned on (anybody imagine how that would feel??
4th boss without beats of Jujouka??, or Adam Freeland's Fear??).
Amplitude and Freq are about rythm, that's basically what essential to it.
REZ is innovative shooter aka Panzer Dragoon with rails (except 5th Fear Stage), by innovative I mean fresh feeling. something that just wasn't seen before.
and yes, I'm a REZ person, I have all versions, on Dreamcast flowing in 30 fps only(which hurts, on PS2 in 60fps, which is more comfortable, but graphics looks not as clean as on DC.

[XboxMaster]

I own 3 copies of Frequency and dont think its that amazing... yes, it has alot of "amazing" things about it, but it really has no legs when stading up against Rez.


Rez really isn't that great unless you take acid on a regular basis.

[cletus]

I saw Frequency for $10 and picked it up on a whim. Even though I've never played a music based game I found myself really enjoying this one. Too bad it stopped working on my PS2 after a while (it's a blue bottom disc).

Anyways, I'm keeping a eye out for Amplitude and Rez and I was wondering if there were any other music based games you guys would recommend? I saw PaRappa 2 and Space Channel 5, are they any good? Anything that isn't ridiculously expensive?

[CouRageouS]

yes amp is great..i havent really played online yet though
Online is great, especially to download all them mixes. Some of them are really good.

[RelentlessRolento]

I saw Frequency for $10 and picked it up on a whim. Even though I've never played a music based game I found myself really enjoying this one. Too bad it stopped working on my PS2 after a while (it's a blue bottom disc).

Anyways, I'm keeping a eye out for Amplitude and Rez and I was wondering if there were any other music based games you guys would recommend? I saw PaRappa 2 and Space Channel 5, are they any good? Anything that isn't ridiculously expensive?

I love Space CHanel 5 but some people don't like it cuz it seems a little overly girly for "manly" men... awsome none the less.

[pRINCESS-iSABELA]

I saw Frequency for $10 and picked it up on a whim. Even though I've never played a music based game I found myself really enjoying this one. Too bad it stopped working on my PS2 after a while (it's a blue bottom disc).

Anyways, I'm keeping a eye out for Amplitude and Rez and I was wondering if there were any other music based games you guys would recommend? I saw PaRappa 2 and Space Channel 5, are they any good? Anything that isn't ridiculously expensive?

I love Space CHanel 5 but some people don't like it cuz it seems a little overly girly for "manly" men... awsome none the less.

yes, Space Channel 5 is cool, not too deep, but very nice to play (I have both SC on DC).
great game.

[cletus]

ok, I'll pick it up when I get the chance.

[pRINCESS-iSABELA]

ok, I'll pick it up when I get the chance.

you won't regret it :P

[camoor]

I own 3 copies of Frequency and dont think its that amazing... yes, it has alot of "amazing" things about it, but it really has no legs when stading up against Rez.


Rez really isn't that great unless you take acid on a regular basis.

LOL yet another junkie who can't enjoy things unless he's high.

Don't listen to this wastoid, Rez is awesome, especially if you like techno music or the movie "Tron".

[Archaic]

I echo your love for Amplitude. I've never enjoyed any other rhythm games, but I think Amplitude is one of the best overlooked gems for the PS2. I got it at Gamerush after seeing it discussed here a few months back.

BTW, I didn't like Space Channel 5, which I played afterwards, but I loved Rez.

[cheezhead430]

where can i get amplitude, i played the demo on my online disc and i really liked it

by the way, i have never played Rez

[Tromack]

I think Rez is a better game. However, the music and rhythm aspects of Frequency and Amplitude cannot be denied.

And as a mathematics and quasi-physics dork, I like the use of frequency/amplitude as the names. Very clever.

[pRINCESS-iSABELA]

how the shaq-fu did you beat insane? but yes, i think amplitude is probably the finest rhythm game ever made.

lol, you know fastest hands in universe :P
for real, if you're into music games, you will beat it every single way.
some songs were tricky on insane in amp, and to nlock all of the songs, you had to make insane combos, to give you about 2500 - 3000 score per song :lol:
nblvbl game :twisted:

[pRINCESS-iSABELA]

how the shaq-fu did you beat insane? but yes, i think amplitude is probably the finest rhythm game ever made.

lol, you know fastest hands in universe :P
for real, if you're into music games, you will beat it every single way.
some songs were tricky on insane in amp, and to nlock all of the songs, you had to making insane combos, to give you about 2500 - 3000 score per song :lol:
nblvbl game :twisted:

I'm inside your mind, I want you to be...... synthesised !! :twisted:

[jngx80]

I've never been able to get into either one, although I own both. I am a fan of the music genre, but there are better games out there for me...

And I too, didn't really enjoy Rez much.

hey guys!! - what the $&*@# are you talking about??
REZ is not a music game!!
it's like saying Jet Set Radio was a music game !!

music in those games is extremely important, and it's a charm - but those aren't music games at all, you may beat REZ without volume turned on (anybody imagine how that would feel??
4th boss without beats of Jujouka??, or Adam Freeland's Fear??).
Amplitude and Freq are about rythm, that's basically what essential to it.
REZ is innovative shooter aka Panzer Dragoon with rails (except 5th Fear Stage), by innovative I mean fresh feeling. something that just wasn't seen before.
and yes, I'm a REZ person, I have all versions, on Dreamcast flowing in 30 fps only(which hurts, on PS2 in 60fps, which is more comfortable, but graphics looks not as clean as on DC.

Couldn't have said it any better. Rez isn't about rhythm and pressing buttons at the correct time. For me Rez was special because of it's graphics. When every developer was trying to make things more and more realistic, Sega/UGA made a game that looked so simple but was so visually appealling. For some reason the story and setting was interesting as well, mixture of weird, creepy, and a sense of isolation.

[lordxixor101]

The only game being discussed here that I played was Amplitude (though, I was really hoping for the re-release of Rez that was rumored that never happened). Amplitude was a good game. It's unfortunate it didn't sell better (what's sad is, if Nintendo or EA had put the game out, it probably would have sold a couple million and been nominated for game of the year awards.

[xVladx]

I saw Frequency for $10 and picked it up on a whim. Even though I've never played a music based game I found myself really enjoying this one. Too bad it stopped working on my PS2 after a while (it's a blue bottom disc).

Anyways, I'm keeping a eye out for Amplitude and Rez and I was wondering if there were any other music based games you guys would recommend? I saw PaRappa 2 and Space Channel 5, are they any good? Anything that isn't ridiculously expensive?

If you've got a Gamecube, Donkey Konga is pretty fun. The only problem is that it's really pretty easy (especially compared to Freq/Amp), the production values are pretty low, and the song list is pretty hit-or-miss. That said, it's still a fun game, and even though I beat all the songs on the hardest difficulty after a few days, I still go back to it and play a few of the better songs. The drums are VERY well built, and it's just fun to play through the more complicated songs.

Mad Maestro is also ok, but it heavily relies on pressing the face buttons on the PS2 controller with varying levels of force, which I never got the hang of. I've also heard good things about Gitaroo Man (which I still can't find anywhere), too.

As others have said, I honestly don't get why people are comparing Freq/Amp to Rez. The only similarity between them is that their graphical style leans towards the side of "trippy".

As far as Freq/Amp go, they each have their own good and bad qualities. I found the song selection in Frequency to be a bit better than Amplitude's, and I did prefer the octagon layout to Amplitude's "freeway" layout. Even if you could make it over to the other side of the track quick enough to continue your streak in Amp, the track itself is off the side of the screen so you can't actually see what notes you need to play. The stupid arrows in Amp that block your view of the track until the last second don't help, either.

Amplitude did have a nice difficulty bump, though, although it did depend a bit too much on fast taps of one note in places.

[PhrostByte]

Rez > *

[sblymnlcrymnl]

I love them both. Amplitude was one of the last games I paid full price for.

[CokeCola]

I love Amplitude. It's extremely satisfying to do well, even though I've only beaten normal. I was looking forward to getting Frequency eventually, but from the sounds of it I won't like it as much. Ah well, I'll still pick it up.

I agree that Amplitude is in no way comparable to Rez. Amplitude is a music game, and Rez is exactly what it's advertised as - a Synesthesia game. To all of you that didn't like it, I hope you were using a Dual Shock (the Logitech's rumble isn't good enough for this game), had the volume way the hell up on some decent speakers, and turned the lights off. You should also get close enough to the TV so that it takes up a good amount of your field of vision. Rez isn't so much a game as it is an experience, and if you get the atmosphere wrong, you won't get it. If you got all that right and still didn’t like it, oh well. It isn’t for everybody.

[killswitch64]

Amplitude is great. Easily the best $2 (overstock.com) I have spent.

[cletus]

xVladx

I don't have a Gamecube but I've been seriously considering one just for Ikaruga and Donkey Konga. I didn't get Taiko Drum Master before since I'm such a cheapass and I didn't realize how fun music games could be. Now I'm trying to find it again.

I saw Gitaroo Man once at a GS for $12 but didn't buy it. Then I found out on here it was considered a rare and hard to find game. When I went back a week later it was gone. :(

I'll look into Mad Maestro which I haven't heard of before. Although, I wasn't very good with the pressure sensitive actions in ZOE2 so I might not like this game.

Thanks for the recommendations.

[xVladx]

xVladx

I don't have a Gamecube but I've been seriously considering one just for Ikaruga and Donkey Konga. I didn't get Taiko Drum Master before since I'm such a cheapass and I didn't realize how fun music games could be. Now I'm trying to find it again.

Just as a heads up, I've heard less than favorable things about Taiko. While I haven't tried it myself, I've read a lot of posts from people complaining that the drum isn't as responsive as it should be. IIRC, it had to do with a dead spot along some part of the drum between the inner and outer sensor areas.

I also highly recommend Ikaruga if you haven't played it before. It's almost like some sort of strange puzzle/shooter hybrid.

[cletus]

So, I finally found Rez and Taiko used at a local EB. I was about to get them when I noticed they were CDs instead of DVDs (I didn't know about dead spots either). Unfortunately, my PS2 has stopped playing blue bottom discs so I ended up not buying them. Is this common with these music-type games? Are most of them CDs? I ask because Frequency was and it stopped working fairly quickly after I got it (it was used too).

[Senor Cookies]

Wow, I'm surprised so many people liked Frequency. I liked the song selection, and the difficulty, but the concept seemed backwards for me because you don't hear the music till you hit the little note things. It's more of a visual game, unlike DDR, or Parappa, where your trying to match the beat by ear and eye, Frequency is mostly sight based. But if you like it, you like it. Never got a chance to play Amplitude.

I liked Space Channel 5 part 2. It didn't strike me so much girly as just plain goofy, which I like. After playing part 2 I couldn't bring my self to play part 1, it felt too easy.

[ElwoodCuse]

I liked Amplitude better because I thought it flowed better than Frequency. It seemed like no matter what I could not string combos in Frequency, and I liked the flat plane better than the Tempest-style round plane.

It's too bad that these games have pretty much been abandoned in favor of Karaoke Revolution.