Free 1 year of XBOX Live, with just a phone call.

[ajh2298]

I was thinking if this would work today while I was at work, came home and gave it a try and it worked no problem.

Here is what I did I was thinking how do the people know at
1-800-4MY-XBOX know if you have a 2 month trail code or the 1 year free code. So I called when I got home and said I just bought SC:PT and it came with the 1 year XBL code(I only got the 2 month code, when I bought it), and gave a BS story on how I heard on the internet that the 1 year codes were not working if you punched them in, and you had to call to get them to add on the free year. She said no problem added the year to my account and never even took the code off of me(which remember I never had one in the first place, I only have 2 month codes).

The next part is even cooler I called my brother, about an hour later, and told him to give it a shot and it worked for him also, no problem(the only thing is they asked for the code and he had a 2 month one lying around, and he read it to the guy and was like ok I just added the free year onto your exsisting account) .

This might be a YMMV kind of scam but you never know.

Also before you flame me for scamming Microsoft, remember I am scamming Microsoft I think they can afford it.

[organicow]

FLAME ON!!!!

[ft]

Sweet! WHat's ur Live name? We should play some games. What gamed do you got?

[EggViper]

dude scamming is scamming, its just what kind of morals u have.

[Medium_Pimpin]

Maybe i can scam them into fixing my xbox for free
Wish me luck!

[doraemonkerpal]

oh shnaps... here it comes!


btw, i thought you were supposed to get a 1 year code with the purchase of SC:PT?

[Wshakspear]

oh shnaps... here it comes!


btw, i thought you were supposed to get a 1 year code with the purchase of SC:PT?

2 month, 1 yr, or even some electronics are randomly inserted

[Southberm]

Why do these things never work for me but always for others

[xspeedracerx]

That pure criminal.

[PsyClerk]

JSweeney, white courtesy phone...paging JSweeney...

[doraemonkerpal]

JSweeney, white courtesy phone...paging JSweeney...

LMAO!

[Wshakspear]

Why do these things never work for me but always for others

Cause your jewish?

Actually, i think its because people like us have morals...or bad timing. :)

[rocksolidaudio]

clever, clever. debatably shady, but clever.

[ajh2298]

Maybe i can scam them into fixing my xbox for free
Wish me luck!

I got them to fix my first XBOX for free I told them I was going to trade it in for a PS2 at EB(when EB had some sort of trade in deal) and they sent me out a pre-paid shipping label fixed it for free and I got it back in like two weeks.

Plus F@#K Microsoft, after dumping 500.00 (out of my own pocket) on their awful computer software for school over the past few years, I think they owe me something.

Plus Bill Gates is THE MAN, and you know what thet say DAMN THE MAN.

[Gothic Walrus]

Hey...maybe if I call them and tell them that they've got my Xbox, they'll send me a free one!

Or maybe I can go into a bank and tell them that I've lost my wallet...think they'll give me money?

Stealing is wrong, you ass. You're a ****ing disgrace to the gaming community. It doesn't matter if you got away with it...it's still illegal, and very much so immoral. This isn't a deal...it's a crime.

[WeaponX2099]

Hmm threats to take business elsewhere works

[JSweeney]

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[PittsburghAfterDark]

Hey, I got a legit renewal on XBL for $20. I honestly think that even at $50 it's a bargain deal for the service and the upgrades they keep doing. I wouldn't brag about this but hey, you're proud you're proud.

Personally I couldn't lie to a MS rep like that. They're losing money hand over fist on XBL and the Xbox and God knows I don't want to be left with Sony running the entire gaming world. Hate to say this but my image of MS completely different for Xbox than it is their Windows/Office monopoly.

[suprsaiyanMAX]

I guess Microsoft doesn't have to pay thier employees or incur any real world costs because they just employ an unstopable robot horde, right?

Not yet , but Bill Gates will get it done eventually I'm sure....then enslave the human race with the same robot horde.

But on serious note, I totally agree in saying this is wrong.

[MrBrando]

Hey, can you just call Microsoft when your free 2 month trail is about to expire and say you wanna cancel the account and they'll extend it for another amount of time? I've been doing this with AOL forever, do the 45 day trail and call to say you wanna cancel and they're like "obviously 45 days wasn't enough to see all the features AOL, let me give you 2 more months".

[Cracka]

this would be like someone saying hey if u call walmart and tell them that they gave u $10 in change instead of $60, they'll say they're sorry and give u $50.. i mean if somebody told me that, i'd do it.

Also how the hell is he supposed to get in trouble? U say its fraud and theft which is true.. but what do they have on him? what proof do they have that he did not actually have the subscription card and threw it away after subscribing? they dont have shit.

i just hate when ppl go into a thread and flame somebody like they're trying to be the good guy who never does wrong. Hey i'm Captain Good Guy, here to tell u that what u did was bad. and to make sure that u know it was bad, i'm gonna directly quote every sentence and then tell whats bad about it. That should teach you a lesson.

[redgopher]

I guess Microsoft doesn't have to pay thier employees or incur any real world costs because they just employ an unstopable robot horde, right?

Not yet , but Bill Gates will get it done eventually I'm sure....then enslave the human race with the same robot horde.

But on serious note, I totally agree in saying this is wrong.

http://www.irobotmovie.com

[JSweeney]

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[JSweeney]

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[ElwoodCuse]

You know, if you wanted free Xbox Live that bad you could have just gone to a video rental place and asked the clerk if there were any you could have. A lot of people here reported no problems doing that.

Great posts JSweeney. I wish CheapyD would start banning these clowns that post the "HAY GUYS I just got away with theft/fraud you can too" threads.

[Indiana]

Good luck with that theft. I can bet that you get flagged and your credit card gets charged! Good luck getting your money back. Plus the $6 a month is more expensive than prepaying for a year.

[dustyeff]

Plus F@#K Microsoft, after dumping 500.00 (out of my own pocket) on their awful computer software for school over the past few years, I think they owe me something.


Are you in a state university? Check and see if Microsoft has any sort of 'discount' program with your school. I bought Windows XP Pro for $25, and Office XP for $35 through the program they set up for the U. of Wisconsin.

[organicow]

honestly, i have no problem with other people coming up with little scams like this; if someone wnats to break the law and be a cheater, that's their problem.

What i DO hate however, is that this jackass thought it would impress us if he bragged about it to everyone here. DOn't drag us into your shit, buddy.

[regisphilbi0]

I think we should tell CheapyD about scammers to get them kicked off the site. It could ruin this awesome site for us and get Cheapy in major legal trouble. Plus, don't be an loser. How would u feel if someone scammed u out of $50 bucks? And then posted on the internet about how they scammed u. Smooth.

[yellowaznboy]

Hey...maybe if I call them and tell them that they've got my Xbox, they'll send me a free one!

Or maybe I can go into a bank and tell them that I've lost my wallet...think they'll give me money?

Stealing is wrong, you ass. You're a ****ing disgrace to the gaming community. It doesn't matter if you got away with it...it's still illegal, and very much so immoral. This isn't a deal...it's a crime.

:roll:

[Indiana]

Hey, can you just call Microsoft when your free 2 month trail is about to expire and say you wanna cancel the account and they'll extend it for another amount of time? I've been doing this with AOL forever, do the 45 day trail and call to say you wanna cancel and they're like "obviously 45 days wasn't enough to see all the features AOL, let me give you 2 more months".

No, I canceled and they asked a few questions but they did not offer to extend it.

[blackjaw]

err..since when did cheapassgamer stand for cheapassscamer

there is a difference between scams and taking advantage of deals and loopholes

[blackjaw]

honestly, i have no problem with other people coming up with little scams like this; if someone wnats to break the law and be a cheater, that's their problem.

What i DO hate however, is that this jackass thought it would impress us if he bragged about it to everyone here. DOn't drag us into your shit, buddy.

totally agree...keep stuff like this to yourself....sure im cheap, but im not a thief

[Cracka]

lmao dood JSweeney do you ever shut the fuck up? seriously its like you look for anything i post and analyze it. Stop running around being a little bitch. You're still doing the whole "Captain Do Good" shit and its annoying as hell. Go to walmart, pick you up some vagisil and some midol and stop being a bitch.

*waits for JSweeney to show up with his big boy pants on and the stick up his ass, ready to analyze my post*

[magilacudy]

lmao dood JSweeney do you ever shut the shaq-fu up? seriously its like you look for anything i post and analyze it. Stop running around being a little bitch. You're still doing the whole "Captain Do Good" shit and its annoying as hell. Go to walmart, pick you up some vagisil and some midol and stop being a bitch.

*waits for JSweeney to show up with his big boy pants on and the stick up his ass, ready to analyze my post*

Haha... I guess you go by many different names here on CAG because your posts aren't the only ones he breaks down and analyzes. He does that to overwhelm the other side so he wins his arguments - which is much more mature than calling someone a 'little bitch'. By the way saying stuff like that only makes you look like what you accuse people of. If you think it's annoying, don't read it. Its that simple.

EDIT: Fixed some glaring typos

[st0neface]

I think it's funny that since JSweeney makes all the people he confronts look like total idiots, so they resort to immature insults. Just because he makes you look like a trained ape, you get so mad you end up proving yourself the idiot.

[WhipSmartBanky]

lmao dood JSweeney do you ever shut the shaq-fu up? seriously its like you look for anything i post and analyze it. Stop running around being a little bitch. You're still doing the whole "Captain Do Good" shit and its annoying as hell. Go to walmart, pick you up some vagisil and some midol and stop being a bitch.

*waits for JSweeney to show up with his big boy pants on and the stick up his ass, ready to analyze my post*

No need to wait for Sweeney to show up. I'll do it:

You're a tool.

[Cracka]

Haha... I guess you go by many different names here on CAG because your posts aren't the only ones he breaks down and analyzes.

Yes he does this in every post he makes, and that is why it is annoying as hell. Apparently you do not find it as annoying as me? I'm going to start doing it in all of my posts.

He does that to overwhelm the other side so he wins his arguments - which is much more mature than calling someone a 'little bitch'.

yea cause we know he'd never do anything childish like that. Except for when he called me Major Dumbass, but i guess that doesnt count since JSweeney said it.

By the way saying stuff like that only makes you look like what you accuse people of.

JSweeney is doing the same shit but i guess anything Dudley Do Right does is ok, as long as its just him doing it.

If you think it's annoying, don't read it. Its that simple.

well since he posts in just about every damn thread, its hard not to read it. Also i'd like to say the same applies to what I say. If you dont like it, dont read it. Seems pretty simple to me too.


I think it's funny that since JSweeney makes all the people he confronts look like total idiots, so they resort to immature insults. Just because he makes you look like a trained ape, you get so mad you end up proving yourself the idiot.

Funny i dont think i've proved myself an idiot. and its funny in your comment you bash me for using "immature insults" and in the same comment u call me an trained ape, and an idiot. wish i were as mature as you.

No need to wait for Sweeney to show up. I'll do it:
You're a tool.

Ouch, got me good. Hey look stoneface, he's resorted to immature insults too, guess he just proved himself an idiot.

[JSweeney]

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[WhipSmartBanky]

Haha... I guess you go by many different names here on CAG because your posts aren't the only ones he breaks down and analyzes.

Yes he does this in every post he makes, and that is why it is annoying as hell. Apparently you do not find it as annoying as me? I'm going to start doing it in all of my posts.

He does that to overwhelm the other side so he wins his arguments - which is much more mature than calling someone a 'little bitch'.

yea cause we know he'd never do anything childish like that. Except for when he called me Major Dumbass, but i guess that doesnt count since JSweeney said it.

By the way saying stuff like that only makes you look like what you accuse people of.

JSweeney is doing the same shit but i guess anything Dudley Do Right does is ok, as long as its just him doing it.

If you think it's annoying, don't read it. Its that simple.

well since he posts in just about every damn thread, its hard not to read it. Also i'd like to say the same applies to what I say. If you dont like it, dont read it. Seems pretty simple to me too.


I think it's funny that since JSweeney makes all the people he confronts look like total idiots, so they resort to immature insults. Just because he makes you look like a trained ape, you get so mad you end up proving yourself the idiot.

Funny i dont think i've proved myself an idiot. and its funny in your comment you bash me for using "immature insults" and in the same comment u call me an trained ape, and an idiot. wish i were as mature as you.

No need to wait for Sweeney to show up. I'll do it:
You're a tool.

Ouch, got me good. Hey look stoneface, he's resorted to immature insults too, guess he just proved himself an idiot.

And you're still a tool.

[optimolife]

JSweeny you're an idiot, they're not gonna make him pay for it after they already gave it to him with no questions asked, moron.

[Gothic Walrus]

JSweeny you're an idiot, they're not gonna make him pay for it after they already gave it to him with no questions asked, moron.

You're right...they won't make him pay.

That's no guarantee that they won't cancel his service and ban him from XBox live permanently, though. That's also no guarantee that they won't have him charged with credit fraud.

[WhipSmartBanky]

JSweeny you're an idiot, they're not gonna make him pay for it after they already gave it to him with no questions asked, moron.

You're right...they won't make him pay.

That's no guarantee that they won't cancel his service and ban him from XBox live permanently, though. That's also no guarantee that they won't have him charged with credit fraud.

Shhh! :-$ Logic will only anger him.

[JSweeney]

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[st0neface]

Hey cracka, calling you an idiot wasn't an insult, it was an observation, and the trained monkey was comparing your intelligence to JSweeney's so it was an accurate analogy. I still don't know why you think it's such a bad thing that some of us here have morals.

[Cracka]

Apparently, you have an issue with the way I post. That is your opinion, and you are quite welcome to it. Of course, I would like to take a look at the grievances for which you state that you hate my posting habits so.

now that you've finished listing things that have nothing to do with why i hate the way you post, i will give you the actual reasons.

1. its not that you break down paragraphs into "logical" sentences, its the fact that you scrutinize every word that is posted, and then you comment on figurative things as if they were literal in order to try and make the other person look like they dont know what they're talking about.
-An example would be when i said that this "deal" would be like going to walmart and telling them that they gave you incorrect change and them giving you what you tell them the correct change was. That was a figurative example. I know walmart would never do that, but of course you scrutinized my example as if it were a literal example and by doing so, you were basically trying to say i didnt know what i was talking about.

2. I adapt my posts to the tone of the argument, and add insults into the text of my posts if such is called for by the tone of the thread.

so when you add insults, its "adapting" to the text of the posts, but when i respond to insults with my own insults, its "being an idiot" or a "tool" as some nerds might say.

3. I post too much, and it is hard to avoid my posts.

i never said you post too much, and i never expected you to quit posting here. magilacudy said i should just not read ur posts if i dont like them, to which i replied that you post in almost every thread. I was basically telling him that i'm not going to weed out every thread with your posts in it.

Considering that I enjoy posting here, it is rather unlikely that I'm just going to stop because I've ruffled a few feathers.

i also like this site and these forums. also in another thread i stated that i wasnt directly pointing my comments to you and that i wasnt trying to start a fight with anyone here, and as soon as i said this, you analyzed everything i said, then went to another thread where i posted *this one* and started things up again.


I think it is funny how everyone stops by to call me immature for sayin crap back and continuing the argument, and then they call me things like.. "tool, idiot, etc" .. I'm guessing this is your way of being mature and trying to stop an argument right? walking past an argument and calling one person a name is like trying to put out a fire by throwing gasoline on it.

ALSO:
you seemed to be too busy analyzing what i said to actually understand what i was trying to say earlier. I asked how could they tell that he had not actually had trouble with his XBL account and that he really did have a XBL card? How will they be able to tell the difference in the people who really did have trouble with their cards and the ones who were calling in tricking them and getting a year free? Are they just going to cancel everyone who called in's XBL accounts, even the ones who honestly had trouble with it? I dont think so.

I've already said this before, but i dont support doing this. I wouldnt do it, and i'm not telling anyone else to, but i dont see how you would get caught.

Last time i mentioned this, you said that if a bunch of people called in and did this, people would get suspicious. I know this. when i stated that i didnt see how you would get caught, i was refering to the OP of this thread. I dont see how he would get caught. Yes if alot of other people did this they would start getting suspicious and those people would more than likely get in trouble. This is why i said i dont support this, and i would not do this.

[Rich]

To Microsoft:


Recently while browsing Cheapassgamer.com, I've discovered a scam that one of their members has used to steal a year of Xbox Live for free from Microsoft. The user, ajh2298, called up MS and told them his year renewal card wasn't working, and the MS employee credited him with a year of XBL, no questions asked, despite him not having any renewal code. Here is his post:


"I was thinking if this would work today while I was at work, came home and gave it a try and it worked no problem.

Here is what I did I was thinking how do the people know at
1-800-4MY-XBOX know if you have a 2 month trail code or the 1 year free code. So I called when I got home and said I just bought SC:PT and it came with the 1 year XBL code(I only got the 2 month code, when I bought it), and gave a BS story on how I heard on the internet that the 1 year codes were not working if you punched them in, and you had to call to get them to add on the free year. She said no problem added the year to my account and never even took the code off of me(which remember I never had one in the first place, I only have 2 month codes).

The next part is even cooler I called my brother, about an hour later, and told him to give it a shot and it worked for him also, no problem(the only thing is they asked for the code and he had a 2 month one lying around, and he read it to the guy and was like ok I just added the free year onto your exsisting account) .

This might be a YMMV kind of scam but you never know.

Also before you flame me for scamming Microsoft, remember I am scamming Microsoft I think they can afford it."

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12509&postdays=0&postorder=asc&sta rt=0


Although I can't supply ano information on him, I'm sure if you investigate the matter further, you can easily pinpoint him and, hopefully, ban his XBL account. Just wanted to bring this to Microsoft's attention, and I hope something is done to correct this in fairness to paying customers like myself.

-Rich

[WhipSmartBanky]

To Microsoft:


Recently while browsing Cheapassgamer.com, I've discovered a scam that one of their members has used to steal a year of Xbox Live for free from Microsoft. The user, ajh2298, called up MS and told them his year renewal card wasn't working, and the MS employee credited him with a year of XBL, no questions asked, despite him not having any renewal code. Here is his post:


"I was thinking if this would work today while I was at work, came home and gave it a try and it worked no problem.

Here is what I did I was thinking how do the people know at
1-800-4MY-XBOX know if you have a 2 month trail code or the 1 year free code. So I called when I got home and said I just bought SC:PT and it came with the 1 year XBL code(I only got the 2 month code, when I bought it), and gave a BS story on how I heard on the internet that the 1 year codes were not working if you punched them in, and you had to call to get them to add on the free year. She said no problem added the year to my account and never even took the code off of me(which remember I never had one in the first place, I only have 2 month codes).

The next part is even cooler I called my brother, about an hour later, and told him to give it a shot and it worked for him also, no problem(the only thing is they asked for the code and he had a 2 month one lying around, and he read it to the guy and was like ok I just added the free year onto your exsisting account) .

This might be a YMMV kind of scam but you never know.

Also before you flame me for scamming Microsoft, remember I am scamming Microsoft I think they can afford it."

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12509&postdays=0&postorder=asc&sta rt=0


Although I can't supply ano information on him, I'm sure if you investigate the matter further, you can easily pinpoint him and, hopefully, ban his XBL account. Just wanted to bring this to Microsoft's attention, and I hope something is done to correct this in fairness to paying customers like myself.

-Rich

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAAH!

http://www.atari.net/sites/banky/zing.jpg

[WhipSmartBanky]

so when you add insults, its "adapting" to the text of the posts, but when i respond to insults with my own insults, its "being an idiot" or a "tool" as some nerds might say.

You're posting on a VIDEO GAME site...I sincerely doubt you've got any room to call anyone here a "nerd," you tool.

[yellowaznboy]

You guys want to talk about morals? Stop f.ucking downloading those ROMs and then come back here and talk about "morals." :roll:

Seriously, where the hell do you (Gothic and st0neface) come off saying someone is this and that when you do something just as wrong.

To quote Gothic Walrus, "stealing is wrong, you ass. You're a ****ing disgrace to the gaming community. It doesn't matter if you got away with it...it's still illegal, and very much so immoral. "

[magilacudy]

To Microsoft: Recently while browsing Cheapassgamer.com

OLSON'D!

[suprsaiyanMAX]

haha...olsen'd

[Rich]

If only he was stupid enought o post his gamertag. :(

[Cracka]

Hey cracka, calling you an idiot wasn't an insult, it was an observation, and the trained monkey was comparing your intelligence to JSweeney's so it was an accurate analogy. I still don't know why you think it's such a bad thing that some of us here have morals.

damn, u hit me hard with that post, but i think i might survive.

I like how you state that you have morals, but u do it in a way to make it seem like i've done something to show that i dont have morals. If you werent so busy hittin up 1st graders for insults, and read what i've said, i've already stated that i dont agree what was done, and that i myself wouldnt do it.

Damn i cant wait till i have over 1,000 posts. It seems that if you have less than that many, and you insult someone, you get bashed, but if you have over 1,000 people stick up for you when you insult others.

You're posting on a VIDEO GAME site...I sincerely doubt you've got any room to call anyone here a "nerd," you tool.

This may be shocking to you, but not all gamers are nerds! I know its hard to believe, but its true.

[shawagg]

People like this guy make me sick. I sure hope MS finds thier error and then bans his ass and has him arrested for fraud,

[st0neface]

You guys want to talk about morals? Stop f.ucking downloading those ROMs and then come back here and talk about "morals." :roll:

Seriously, where the hell do you (Gothic and st0neface) come off saying someone is this and that when you do something just as wrong.

To quote Gothic Walrus, "stealing is wrong, you ass. You're a ****ing disgrace to the gaming community. It doesn't matter if you got away with it...it's still illegal, and very much so immoral. "

I have mentioned that I played ROMS before, but that was four or five years ago. I was in eighth grade, was gullible and the site I got them on said if you deleted it before 90 days, it was legal. I bought that excuse at the time, but as soon as I found out it wasn't legal I deleted all my roms and emulators. I'll admit I screwed up and did it in the past. The fact is I don't condone it now, and feel I can criticize people, as I didn't know it was wrong, but these people know it is wrong, and continue doing it. Looking back I did deserve to get penalized for doing it, but maybe all the ranting about it will sway one person from doing the wrong thing, I'll feel better that I have somewhat redeemed myself.

[blackjaw]

im sure it wont be too hard for MS to pinpoint a sketchy recent account done by phone in pittsburgh, penn.

and im sure a few people that did trades with him wouldnt mind disclosing his address or paypal or even email if MS offered rewards for busing frauds and scams

[JSweeney]

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[Cracka]

Then you gave a bad example. If the example itself isn't valid, it doesn't go very far in proving your hypothesis.

do u know the meaning of the word figurative?

You angry at me because of how others treat you? Exactly how does that make sense?

point me to the part where i said i was mad at you for this? i simply asking a question.

Again, directly attacking me based on the comments of others. That doesn't really help your credibility.

1. i wasnt even directly talking to you at that point.
2. it wasnt an attack period.

[Rich]

Again, unless a large number of people did this exploit, it would likely go unnoticed...

I doubt it; they'll know once they read my email. :)

[yellowaznboy]

Posted: November 24, 2003, 6:04 pm

I buy my CDs and video games. I play NES and SNES games on my emulators, but I don't really consider that pirating since it's been a while since both have been discontinued

Posted: November 25, 2003, 6:47 am

I play around with my Snes9x every now and then. I go to [removed ROM website] for my roms. I also use project 64, which is probably the least buggy N64 emulator, but I've only found 64 roms on Kazaa.

That's enough from me on this matter.

[JSweeney]

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[blackjaw]

you guys and your intellectual debates hurt my head!

[Gothic Walrus]

You guys want to talk about morals? Stop f.ucking downloading those ROMs and then come back here and talk about "morals." :roll:

Seriously, where the hell do you (Gothic and st0neface) come off saying someone is this and that when you do something just as wrong.

To quote Gothic Walrus, "stealing is wrong, you ass. You're a ****ing disgrace to the gaming community. It doesn't matter if you got away with it...it's still illegal, and very much so immoral. "

I have mentioned that I played ROMS before, but that was four or five years ago. I was in eighth grade, was gullible and the site I got them on said if you deleted it before 90 days, it was legal. I bought that excuse at the time, but as soon as I found out it wasn't legal I deleted all my roms and emulators. I'll admit I screwed up and did it in the past. The fact is I don't condone it now, and feel I can criticize people, as I didn't know it was wrong, but these people know it is wrong, and continue doing it. Looking back I did deserve to get penalized for doing it, but maybe all the ranting about it will sway one person from doing the wrong thing, I'll feel better that I have somewhat redeemed myself.

Having run a quick search on the site, I noticed a few things...

-I've never said that I actively download roms (I don't; I used to, though)
-All of the roms that I have downloaded in the past are for defunct systems that I own

It's still illegal, but I don't see anything morally wrong with downloading a rom for a Genesis game that I own that's stopped working

This...this is something else entirely. There is no moral gray area - this is flat out wrong. Hell, this is arguably much worse - this one call could have cost the employee who took it their job.

[Cracka]

o yay Dudley responded again with yet another smartass comment. lets take a look at your post Dudley.

this would be like someone saying hey if u call walmart and tell them that they gave u $10 in change instead of $60, they'll say they're sorry and give u $50.. i mean if somebody told me that, i'd do it.

1. This is not based on nor using a figure of speech. This is not a metaphor for anything.


\Simi"*le\, n.; pl. {Similes}. [L., from similis. See {Similar}.] (Rhet.)

Definition: A simile is a figure of speech that, like metaphor, compares unlike things in order to describe something. Similes do not state that something is another thing, however. Instead, they compare using the word "like" or "as." Some scholars refer to simile as a type of metaphor.

Now that we see that what i said IS a figure of speech, and therefore it IS a figurative example, i would like to say that i dont care how much u criticize it. If it helps you sleep at night to criticize something that was said figuratively, then go ahead. It is the fact that you try to make me look like i didnt know what i was talking about.. which i obviously did.. when i said it. Also you still dont seem to grasp the concept of a figurative example, but i'm not about to waste my time explaining it to you.

[Rich]

You guys want to talk about morals? Stop f.ucking downloading those ROMs and then come back here and talk about "morals." :roll:

Seriously, where the hell do you (Gothic and st0neface) come off saying someone is this and that when you do something just as wrong.

To quote Gothic Walrus, "stealing is wrong, you ass. You're a ****ing disgrace to the gaming community. It doesn't matter if you got away with it...it's still illegal, and very much so immoral. "

I have mentioned that I played ROMS before, but that was four or five years ago. I was in eighth grade, was gullible and the site I got them on said if you deleted it before 90 days, it was legal. I bought that excuse at the time, but as soon as I found out it wasn't legal I deleted all my roms and emulators. I'll admit I screwed up and did it in the past. The fact is I don't condone it now, and feel I can criticize people, as I didn't know it was wrong, but these people know it is wrong, and continue doing it. Looking back I did deserve to get penalized for doing it, but maybe all the ranting about it will sway one person from doing the wrong thing, I'll feel better that I have somewhat redeemed myself.

Having run a quick search on the site, I noticed a few things...

-I've never said that I actively download roms (I don't; I used to, though)
-All of the roms that I have downloaded in the past are for defunct systems that I own

It's still illegal, but I don't see anything morally wrong with downloading a rom for a Genesis game that I own that's stopped working

This...this is something else entirely. There is no moral gray area - this is flat out wrong. Hell, this is arguably much worse - this one call could have cost the employee who took it their job.

If you own, then it IS legal..

[Cracka]

it is legal to make backup copies of your games, it is not legal for you to get a ROM from someone else.

[st0neface]

I never said when I stopped, but yes, I really didn't consider it wrong until later on in some of those threads, perhaps later ones. I'm sure subconciously that the 90 day thing was bull shit, but wanted to believe it, so that I could ignore what people said about it. I already have, and will so again, say I don't do it anymore, and now believe it's wrong. I didn't exactly have the highest morals up until the end of last year. I used to think things like downloading roms and movies was okay, as was doing illegal drugs. I then started looking at what my friends who did it, and they went from doing that to outright shoplifting to pay for the huge amounts of drugs they did. I'm glad I moved when I did, and even though I talk to these people over IM, but they aren't really my friends. I saw that I could easily become like them, so I stopped doing anything that was illegal, no matter how ignored by others they were. So, I have people like you, YAB, to thank for showing me the error in my ways. I could have become a much worse person, I really didn't even have my life in order, I had no real plans for the future, but now I'm joining the military, so I can use the GI bill to go to college, and actually make something for myself. So basically, in the past 4 months, I've turned my life around, some of my influence has been due to people on this site, and think maybe I can influence someone as I have been influenced.

[ajh2298]

Actually, I never did what I posted I had a feeling it might work so I posted to see if anyone would try it and post back that it worked, then I was gonna give it a try. I no longer need to I stopped at my local Blockbuster and they had 2 free 1 year subscription cards out of the 10 SC:PT thay had so the girl behind the counter was like "take them if you want them I dont care".

So all you CAG with high moral standards need not worry I am stiil a 100% law abiding citizen.


p.s.
I cant see what I posted was any different than when we all took advantage of the $5.00 Best Buy Splinter Cell, Platium Hit fiasco.
We all knew what we were doing was a mistake but it did not stop us from doing it.

p.s.s.
If anyone needs a 1 year XBL code I might have one for like $20.00, PM if you are interested.

[Cracka]

To Microsoft:


Recently while browsing Cheapassgamer.com, I've discovered a scam that one of their members has used to steal a year of Xbox Live for free from Microsoft. The user, ajh2298, called up MS and told them his year renewal card wasn't working, and the MS employee credited him with a year of XBL, no questions asked, despite him not having any renewal code. Here is his post:


"I was thinking if this would work today while I was at work, came home and gave it a try and it worked no problem.

Here is what I did I was thinking how do the people know at
1-800-4MY-XBOX know if you have a 2 month trail code or the 1 year free code. So I called when I got home and said I just bought SC:PT and it came with the 1 year XBL code(I only got the 2 month code, when I bought it), and gave a BS story on how I heard on the internet that the 1 year codes were not working if you punched them in, and you had to call to get them to add on the free year. She said no problem added the year to my account and never even took the code off of me(which remember I never had one in the first place, I only have 2 month codes).

The next part is even cooler I called my brother, about an hour later, and told him to give it a shot and it worked for him also, no problem(the only thing is they asked for the code and he had a 2 month one lying around, and he read it to the guy and was like ok I just added the free year onto your exsisting account) .

This might be a YMMV kind of scam but you never know.

Also before you flame me for scamming Microsoft, remember I am scamming Microsoft I think they can afford it."

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12509&postdays=0&postorder=asc&sta rt=0


Although I can't supply ano information on him, I'm sure if you investigate the matter further, you can easily pinpoint him and, hopefully, ban his XBL account. Just wanted to bring this to Microsoft's attention, and I hope something is done to correct this in fairness to paying customers like myself.

-Rich


Actually, I never did what I posted I had a feeling it might work so I posted to see if anyone would try it and post back that it worked, then I was gonna give it a try. I no longer need to I stopped at my local Blockbuster and they had 2 free 1 year subscription cards out of the 10 SC:PT thay had so the girl behind the counter was like "take them if you want them I dont care".

So all you CAG with high moral standards need not worry I am stiil a 100% law abiding citizen.


p.s.
I cant see what I posted was any different than when we all took advantage of the $5.00 Best Buy Splinter Cell, Platium Hit fiasco.
We all knew what we were doing was a mistake but it did not stop us from doing it.

p.s.s.
If anyone needs a 1 year XBL code I might have one for like $20.00, PM if you are interested.

ROFL

http://www.atari.net/sites/banky/zing.jpg

[yellowaznboy]

Having run a quick search on the site, I noticed a few things...

-I've never said that I actively download roms (I don't; I used to, though)
-All of the roms that I have downloaded in the past are for defunct systems that I own

It's still illegal, but I don't see anything morally wrong with downloading a rom for a Genesis game that I own that's stopped working

This...this is something else entirely. There is no moral gray area - this is flat out wrong. Hell, this is arguably much worse - this one call could have cost the employee who took it their job.

http://cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3141

[Rich]

Actually, I never did what I posted I had a feeling it might work so I posted to see if anyone would try it and post back that it worked, then I was gonna give it a try. I no longer need to I stopped at my local Blockbuster and they had 2 free 1 year subscription cards out of the 10 SC:PT thay had so the girl behind the counter was like "take them if you want them I dont care".

So all you CAG with high moral standards need not worry I am stiil a 100% law abiding citizen.


p.s.
I cant see what I posted was any different than when we all took advantage of the $5.00 Best Buy Splinter Cell, Platium Hit fiasco.
We all knew what we were doing was a mistake but it did not stop us from doing it.

p.s.s.
If anyone needs a 1 year XBL code I might have one for like $20.00, PM if you are interested.

Yeah, we believe you. :lol:

Actually, I never sent that email to Microsoft, I just wanted to see what your reaction would be.





No, wait, I'm lying. I did send that email and I still hope they nail your ass.

[Rich]

p.s.
I cant see what I posted was any different than when we all took advantage of the $5.00 Best Buy Splinter Cell, Platium Hit fiasco.
We all knew what we were doing was a mistake but it did not stop us from doing it.



One is a scam, one is capitalizing on a mistake. Granted, I would never do either, but there is a difference.

[ajh2298]

p.s.
I cant see what I posted was any different than when we all took advantage of the $5.00 Best Buy Splinter Cell, Platium Hit fiasco.
We all knew what we were doing was a mistake but it did not stop us from doing it.



One is a scam, one is capitalizing on a mistake. Granted, I would never do either, but there is a difference.

Well I guess you will go to Heaven and everybody here with a $5.00 Splinter Cell will burn in the hot fires of Hell. :twisted:

[Rich]

Probably. Even better since I got to play SC months earlier.

[ajh2298]

Dear RichD1,

I just cheated on my taxes here is their website www.irs.gov.

Thanks,
ajh2298

[Cracka]

CRIIIIIIPPLLLLE FIIIIIIIGHT! ...jk

cant pass up a chance to use that quote from southpark.

[magilacudy]

Posted: November 24, 2003, 6:04 pm

I buy my CDs and video games. I play NES and SNES games on my emulators, but I don't really consider that pirating since it's been a while since both have been discontinued

Posted: November 25, 2003, 6:47 am

I play around with my Snes9x every now and then. I go to [removed ROM website] for my roms. I also use project 64, which is probably the least buggy N64 emulator, but I've only found 64 roms on Kazaa.

That's enough from me on this matter.

Aznboy, you're way off-base posting that. Not only are these quotes almost a year old but they are off-topic. Roms may be wrong under copyright law, but even that that thread you linked to is iffy on whether it is morally wrong. There is a fine line between what is morally and criminally wrong.

Gothic Walrus said he had in his possession the original games. Under a technicality of copyright/software law, he may be negligient but whether it is morally wrong is doubtful. st0neface admitted his fault, and said he doesn't play roms any more, so what else do you want? Have you not done anything wrong that you're allowed to comment on morality and no one else - especially those two aren't? Everyone has a chance to 'clean up their act', like GW and st0ne said they did, and like the original poster can do (but probably won't). The best we can do is stay on-topic and follow the laws and guidelines of the boards like good cheapass citizens. =P

Back on topic, I think what the dude did was not right. The end.

[ajh2298]

CRIIIIIIPPLLLLE FIIIIIIIGHT! ...jk

cant pass up a chance to use that quote from southpark.

Did you see South Park tonight best episode ever.

[blackjaw]

Actually, I never did what I posted I had a feeling it might work so I posted to see if anyone would try it and post back that it worked, then I was gonna give it a try. I no longer need to I stopped at my local Blockbuster and they had 2 free 1 year subscription cards out of the 10 SC:PT thay had so the girl behind the counter was like "take them if you want them I dont care".

So all you CAG with high moral standards need not worry I am stiil a 100% law abiding citizen.


p.s.
I cant see what I posted was any different than when we all took advantage of the $5.00 Best Buy Splinter Cell, Platium Hit fiasco.
We all knew what we were doing was a mistake but it did not stop us from doing it.

p.s.s.
If anyone needs a 1 year XBL code I might have one for like $20.00, PM if you are interested.

youre 100% believable! /sarcasm :?

[Cracka]

Did you see South Park tonight best episode ever.

no i didnt think to look until it was 20 minutes into the show so i decided to wait till it comes on again instead of watching a piece now and the rest later.

[ajh2298]

Did you see South Park tonight best episode ever.

no i didnt think to look until it was 20 minutes into the show so i decided to wait till it comes on again instead of watching a piece now and the rest later.

Trust me you dont want to miss it, between South Park and Chapelle's Show I am still laughing.

[Cracka]

lmao i only got to see part of chapelle show but the part i saw was funny as hell.. it was the black bush press conference lol.

Chapelle:Uh yes you. *points at reporter*
Reporter:Yes Mr. President i wanted to ask you about the war in Iraq.
Chapelle: AWW DAMN! i knew i shouldn't have called on you!

lmao his description of lesbians was hilarious.. lmao

[Rich]

Dear RichD1,

I just cheated on my taxes here is their website www.irs.gov.

Thanks,
ajh2298

If I had proof, you're damn straight they'd be getting an email from me.

[yellowaznboy]

Posted: November 24, 2003, 6:04 pm

I buy my CDs and video games. I play NES and SNES games on my emulators, but I don't really consider that pirating since it's been a while since both have been discontinued

Posted: November 25, 2003, 6:47 am

I play around with my Snes9x every now and then. I go to [removed ROM website] for my roms. I also use project 64, which is probably the least buggy N64 emulator, but I've only found 64 roms on Kazaa.

That's enough from me on this matter.

Aznboy, you're way off-base posting that. Not only are these quotes almost a year old but they are off-topic. Roms may be wrong under copyright law, but even that that thread you linked to is iffy on whether it is morally wrong. There is a fine line between what is morally and criminally wrong.

Gothic Walrus said he had in his possession the original games. Under a technicality of copyright/software law, he may be negligient but whether it is morally wrong is doubtful. st0neface admitted his fault, and said he doesn't play roms any more, so what else do you want? Have you not done anything wrong that you're allowed to comment on morality and no one else - especially those two aren't? Everyone has a chance to 'clean up their act', like GW and st0ne said they did, and like the original poster can do (but probably won't). The best we can do is stay on-topic and follow the laws and guidelines of the boards like good cheapass citizens. =P

Back on topic, I think what the dude did was not right. The end.

Why do I even bother?

magilacudy, I don't think you understand what I'm trying to accomplish here. I'm simply trying to point out the inconsistancies in standards, and to reveal the hypocrisy exhibited by several members of this community who post condescending drivel in an attempt to look morally superior.

By the way, those quotes aren't even 5 months old. And, I posted that link for several reasons, one of which was to further prove my point that there is either a double standard, or people are just being hyporcritical.

[jdpimp]

my mom says that douches do indeed make her feel fresh and clean all day long.

but that's just what she says. I don't know if I believe her. She's a lyin douchebag

[jshorr]

I don't understand why anyone gets so worked up over this stuff. It's obviously not a very moral thing to do, lying to a company to get free service....but I don't think it's really stealing either. They chose to accept his BS story and give him the extra time....I think stealing cards out of a Pandora's Tomorrow box at blockbuster is a lot worse, you're actually taking something that doesn't belong to you. Everyone chill with the moral superiority.....

[Rich]

Hello Rich,


Thank you for writing to Xbox Live regarding a scam.

We apologize for the delay in addressing your concern. If your concern has been addressed, please disregard this email.

We appreciate your time bringing this matter to our attention.

We have forwarded this mail to our product team for further investigation. Rest assured that the Xbox Product Specialist Team is constantly doing their best to give the best possible service for our customers.

In case you have other Xbox Live concerns, feel free to write back. We take feedback on Xbox Live and our Customer Service very seriously and review customer comments daily.

We are working to make Xbox the best gaming system for you.


Sincerely,

Mylene
Xbox Live Technical Support

--- Original Message ---
From: Rich
To: live_email@css.one.microsoft.com
Sent: Wed Apr 14 17:06:22 PDT 2004
Subject: Xbox Live


Name:
Rich
Service: Xbox Live
Type of issue::
xbox live - other



DESCRIPTION :
Recently while browsing Cheapassgamer.com, I've discovered a scam that one of their members has used to steal a year of Xbox Live for free from Microsoft. The user, ajh2298, called up MS and told them his year renewal card wasn't working, and the MS employee credited him with a year of XBL, no questions asked, despite him not having any renewal code. Here is his post:


'I was thinking if this would work today while I was at work, came home and gave it a try and it worked no problem.

Here is what I did I was thinking how do the people know at
1-800-4MY-XBOX know if you have a 2 month trail code or the 1 year free code. So I called when I got home and said I just bought SC:PT and it came with the 1 year XBL code(I only got the 2 month code, when I bought it), and gave a BS story on how I heard on the internet that the 1 year codes were not working if you punched them in, and you had to call to get them to add on the free year. She said no problem added the year to my account and never even took the code off of me(which remember I never had one in the first place, I only have 2 month codes).

The next part is even cooler I called my brother, about an hour later, and told him to give it a shot and it worked for him also, no problem(the only thing is they asked for the code and he had a 2 month one lying around, and he read it to the guy and was like ok I just added the free year onto your exsisting account) .

This might be a YMMV kind of scam but you never know.

Also before you flame me for scamming Microsoft, remember I am scamming Microsoft I think they can afford it.'

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12509&postdays=0&postorder=asc&sta rt=0


Although I can't supply ano information on him, I'm sure if you investigate the matter further, you can easily pinpoint him and, hopefully, ban his XBL account. Just wanted to bring this to Microsoft's attention, and I hope something is done to correct this in fairness to paying customers like myself.

-Rich