[Edit] The Pope Dies ... or not.

[the_gloaming]

Everyone knew it was coming, and someone had to post it. Check the news if you don't believe me.

Unless they're pulling the biggest, most unfunny April Fool's Joke ever.

Edit: Edited the topic title, because, well, he didn't. Yet.

[bignick]

Now they will ring the bell in the Vatican. Good thing I watched Eurotrip!

[evilmax17]

There's really got to be some cosmic irony to the Pope dying on april fools day.

[projecteightysix]

lol I could see the pope going APRIL FOOLS!!!!!
but yeah, good riddance if you ask me.

[Zman310]

I feel that I must note that this is not official, it is being reported on CNN from an Italian media source, the Vatican has not confirmed, and CNN has not independently confirmed this yet. That being said, I think that it is likely true.

[Kayden]

Now only if the catholic church in general would follow suit...

[jm2u]

CNN doesnt say he's dead. "Vatican: Pope clinging to life" Are you just making your guess that today's the day?

Edit: Really? Well I better get this in my blog to scoop them!

[evilmax17]

CNN doesnt say he's dead.

They had it up, but took it down. Expect official confirmation soon.

[defender]

This is cruel if fake.

Any verifying sources?

[WeaponX2099]

Rest in Peace Pope, and have fun in heaven with Jesus and Jimi.

[m1lesteg]

lol I could see the pope going APRIL FOOLS!!!!!
but yeah, good riddance if you ask me.

Good riddance? The guy hasn't done anything remotely bad in his entire life.

[spoo]

This is cruel if fake.

Any verifying sources?
No Vatican confirmation. So this is just a Net/Network Rumor so far.

[spoo]

but yeah, good riddance if you ask me.

Do you even get your jokes?

[Legolas813]

I can't believe people are joking about something like this.

[projecteightysix]

Good riddance? The guy hasn't done anything remotely bad in his entire life.
I can't find the quote anywhere, but I heard him once say he thinks he's God, or a "god". it was pretty f'd up.

the whole catholic thing is messed up if you really look at it. the bible says how man is a screw up, yet they make you go through man to confess etc.

[Legolas813]

Update: The Vatican is denying reports that the Pope is dead.

[jm2u]

Get off your soapbox.

[Kayden]

I wasn't joking... the catholic church is a pock mark on human history.

[the_gloaming]

Er, I posted because the Italian media reported it. Also, I get my news from Drudge, and it said in big letters -- "POPE DIES." After that I walked to work (it's close) and by the time I checked again, it had been retracted, and now says that his brain and heart are still functioning.

Anyway, I never meant it as a joke and hope no one thought I did.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

I wasn't joking... the catholic church is a pock mark on human history.

Correction: The whole of Christianity is a festering boil on the ass of human history.

[KrazyKefka]

The Vatican is denying the Italian media reports of the Pope's passing.

[alonzomourning23]

Good riddance? The guy hasn't done anything remotely bad in his entire life.

I think the outright anti gay rants are pretty bad to many people, me included. If anyone else says those things he would stir up much more hatred, and with good reason. Though my opinion doesn't reflect the opinion you quoted, and it doesn't come close to reflecting yours either.

[evilmax17]

The Vatican is denying it, but that doesn't mean he didn't die. Or that he won't be officially dead by tonight.

I think the denial is just to keep up appearences.

[Legolas813]

Fox was the one that was reporting the Pope as dead. They have now retracted that statement.

[Kayden]

Correction: The whole of Christianity is a festering boil on the ass of human history.

wow... thats almost verbatim what I was planning on saying... I figured I'd be slightly less callous seeing how hes dying...

But way to kick em while they're down! :lol:

[BigDirty]

Since this is the first pope to have a website, I wonder if the official site of the vatican (http://www.vatican.va), has any signifigance like the bell ringing or closing of the gates?

[ryanbph]

If you aren't a christian or don't care about the pope, the keep your comments to yourself.

And as for the gay comments, the majority of americains don't support the gay community, so why would the leader of a rather conservative religion support them. And as for my comments on majority of americians not supporting the gay community, look at the voting in the last election where gay marriage was on the ballot, they lost everywhere, and they would loose in MA, but the court system decided to legislate for themselves. They are accepted by the majority of Americains, as many just don't really care what someone else does. No one wants to go and hunt them down, as it isn't that big of a deal, but that doesn't mean they approve. An overwhelming majority of Americains are Christians. No everyone does not follow the bible to the tee, but they still believe.

Yes the Catholic church has made numerous errors, but it is run by humans, and everyone in the human race has made numerous mistakes over their lifetime

[afedock]

I didn't know sinead o' connor was part of the CAG community! seriously, not believing in Christianity is fine, but you dont have to go out of your way to trash talk it as a whole. Atleast it attempts to better humans and their morals, which you cant tell me is a bad thing? Could you please post your religion so I can compare it to a boil on my ass?

[Javery]

The guy hasn't done anything remotely bad in his entire life.

Suuurrreeee... maybe by your standards....

[m1lesteg]

wow... thats almost verbatim what I was planning on saying... I figured I'd be slightly less callous seeing how hes dying...

But way to kick em while they're down! :lol:

Way to take joy in the sickness and death of another human being. Even if you don't believe in the religion, there's no need for such blatant disrespect of another person's life. Do you want people to say "good riddance" and then claim that your family is a festering boil on the ass of the world? I'm not a religious person, but at least I respect the lives of good people.

[Ozzkev55]

I can't find the quote anywhere, but I heard him once say he thinks he's God, or a "god". it was pretty f'd up.

the whole catholic thing is messed up if you really look at it. the bible says how man is a screw up, yet they make you go through man to confess etc.

you know why you cant find that qoute, because if a pope breaks one of the ten commandments, that badly, it is grounds for dismissal from his papacy, next time you chrage someone with something, give a good reason, the guy is the fucking pope, so show some damn respect, especially to someone whos ailing, and in such pain

[Kayden]

Way to take joy in the sickness and death of another human being. Even if you don't believe in the religion, there's no need for such blatant disrespect of another person's life. Do you want people to say "good riddance" and then claim that your family is a festering boil on the ass of the world? I'm not a religious person, but at least I respect the lives of good people.

:rofl:

Like it or not, I'm sure its going to happen.

And BTW, I am Catholic.

[Kayden]

I didn't know sinead o' connor was part of the CAG community! seriously, not believing in Christianity is fine, but you dont have to go out of your way to trash talk it as a whole. Atleast it attempts to better humans and their morals, which you cant tell me is a bad thing? Could you please post your religion so I can compare it to a boil on my ass?

"Catholicism- Bettering humanity one boys ass at a time!"

[m1lesteg]

"Catholicism- Bettering humanity one boys ass at a time!"

Think of that all by yourself, champ?

[Scorch]

He's not dead yet.

By the way, I DID post it.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46196

[Kayden]

Think of that all by yourself, champ?

No, hearing 1500 years of stories of corrupt priests and sexual abuse helped a lot.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

wow... thats almost verbatim what I was planning on saying... I figured I'd be slightly less callous seeing how hes dying...

But way to kick em while they're down! :lol:

Now don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against the pope personally. It's just everything he represents that I despise. :lol:

[m1lesteg]

No, hearing 1500 years of stories of corrupt priests and sexual abuse helped a lot.

In any case, your beef with the religion is secondary to whatever your disdain for the Pope is. He did nothing wrong. Unless you have something against the entire Catholic religion, which would limit your options in people quite a bit.

[Kayden]

In any case, your beef with the religion is secondary to whatever your disdain for the Pope is. He did nothing wrong. Unless you have something against the entire Catholic religion, which would limit your options in people quite a bit.

I didn't say I had any beef with the popester, I just said it'd be nice if christianity would die with him.

[doraemonkerpal]

I didn't say I had any beef with the popester, I just said it'd be nice if christianity would die with him.

i'm confused... i thought you said you were catholic???

(btw, i'm not catholic.)

[ElfAngel7]

Correction: The whole of Christianity is a festering boil on the ass of human history.

While I personally agree with you, it has helped members of my family through their darkest times, so I can't completely say it is useless.

Now, with Mitch Hedburg dieing and the Pope near death the next day, it is clearly a sign of the apocalypse

[Kayden]

i'm confused... i thought you said you were catholic???

(btw, i'm not catholic.)

So I'm sui-religo-cidal...

Well... you could say I'm a catholic... but thats like saying Jesus was a cow because he was born in a barn...

My parents are catholic, but I have a mind of my own.

[doraemonkerpal]

So I'm sui-religo-cidal...

Well... you could say I'm a catholic... but thats like saying Jesus was a cow because he was born in a barn...

My parents are catholic, but I have a mind of my own.

oh ok. thanks for explaining lol! :D

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Well... you could say I'm a catholic... but thats like saying Jesus was a cow because he was born in a barn...

My parents are catholic, but I have a mind of my own.

Same here, except it's only my mother who's catholic. I don't actually know what my father believes, but then again I've never asked.

[onetrackmind]

My whole family is catholic, except for me... 12 years of catholic school really did wonders for me. I just dont believe in an invisible man and all that stuff... my family cant stand that i'm an atheist. My mom buys books all the time for me to try to "convert me" it's pretty comical.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

My whole family is catholic, except for me... 12 years of catholic school really did wonders for me. I just dont believe in an invisible man and all that stuff... my family cant stand that i'm an atheist. My mom buys books all the time for me to try to "convert me" it's pretty comical.

That's why I don't discuss religion at home, because then everyone wants to pray for you and all that bullshit. By keeping my mouth shut I've managed to only recieve one bible in the last year, and that was from a cousin. :D

If my parent had stuck me in catholic school I would have done everything I could to be expelled.

[Kayden]

That's why I don't discuss religion at home, because then everyone wants to pray for you and all that bullshit. By keeping my mouth shut I've managed to only recieve one bible in the last year, and that was from a cousin. :D

If my parent had stuck me in catholic school I would have done everything I could to be expelled.

You do know some Catholic schools still beat you senseless for getting out of line.... right?

[zewone]

Now they will ring the bell in the Vatican. Good thing I watched Eurotrip!

I was thinking the same thing.

[alonzomourning23]

In any case, your beef with the religion is secondary to whatever your disdain for the Pope is. He did nothing wrong. Unless you have something against the entire Catholic religion, which would limit your options in people quite a bit.

You must be against contraception and hate gays then.

[Duo_Maxwell]

You do know some Catholic schools still beat you senseless for getting out of line.... right?

You do know that your BS smells pretty bad don't you? When I was younger there was an occasional incident of corproal punishment, but not since the 2nd grade do I remeber that happening and I sure as hell don't remember anyone getting beat senseless.

[alonzomourning23]

If you aren't a christian or don't care about the pope, the keep your comments to yourself.

And as for the gay comments, the majority of americains don't support the gay community, so why would the leader of a rather conservative religion support them. And as for my comments on majority of americians not supporting the gay community, look at the voting in the last election where gay marriage was on the ballot, they lost everywhere, and they would loose in MA, but the court system decided to legislate for themselves. They are accepted by the majority of Americains, as many just don't really care what someone else does. No one wants to go and hunt them down, as it isn't that big of a deal, but that doesn't mean they approve. An overwhelming majority of Americains are Christians. No everyone does not follow the bible to the tee, but they still believe.

Yes the Catholic church has made numerous errors, but it is run by humans, and everyone in the human race has made numerous mistakes over their lifetime

Wait, what does that have to do with anything? If the majority of americans oppose homosexuality as sinful, that can't be something bad? Though seriously "if you aren't christian don't make a comment" get a clue, he's a world figure. I'm sure when other world figures die you rush up and say "if you're not X don't make a comment".

[Duo_Maxwell]

Though seriously "if you aren't christian don't make a comment" get a clue, he's a world figure. I'm sure when other world figures die you rush up and say "if you're not X don't make a comment".

I'd agree with that, he's probably much more recongized outsie of America than he is here for that matter. And besides there's a number of christians who probably don't have opinions about the Pope...He's the figurehead for the Catholic Church, not all of Chrisianity.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

You do know some Catholic schools still beat you senseless for getting out of line.... right?


My parents would have pulled me out of the school if that were the case. :D

[m1lesteg]

You must be against contraception and hate gays then.

Um..care to explain how you arrived at that conclusion?

[alonzomourning23]

Um..care to explain how you arrived at that conclusion?

The pope has openly denounced both (gay rights being an affront to families etc.), and you kept insisting he has never done anything wrong. I don't think I know any catholics who accept the "infallibility of the pope", it's something everyone ignores.

[m1lesteg]

The pope has openly denounced both (gay rights being an affront to families etc.), and you kept insisting he has never done anything wrong. I don't think I know any catholics who accept the "infallibility of the pope", it's something everyone ignores.

Well, like I've said before, I'm not a religious person. I just think it's a bit out of line for people to be excoriating the Pope so needlessly. I understand that not everyone is going to like the guy, but that doesn't mean it's necessary to be so vocal about it in a thread I assumed was meant to be more respectful. You don't stand outside a hospital and start saying bad things about a terminally-ill patient to someone, do you?

I should have been more clear about my view that he did "nothing wrong." To answer the first question, I was born and raised in Boston, so I have quite a liberal background. As such, I have no problem with gay people or anything of the sort. However, there are people who do. That doesn't necessarily make them bad people, does it?

[alonzomourning23]

Well, like I've said before, I'm not a religious person. I just think it's a bit out of line for people to be excoriating the Pope so needlessly. I understand that not everyone is going to like the guy, but that doesn't mean it's necessary to be so vocal about it in a thread I assumed was meant to be more respectful. You don't stand outside a hospital and start saying bad things about a terminally-ill patient to someone, do you?

I should have been more clear about my view that he did "nothing wrong." To answer the first question, I was born and raised in Boston, so I have quite a liberal background. As such, I have no problem with gay people or anything of the sort. However, there are people who do. That doesn't necessarily make them bad people, does it?

I would say publicly denouncing a gay rights rally as an "affront to families" would be at least evidence to that effect. I didn't say he was bad, I said he was good for what I would expect out of a pope (all the flaws of religion, but tries to heal the wounds that catholicism has caused others in the past). I just think most of the people whining about him in this threat are doing it out of youthful rebellion and anger more than anything else, pretty much like the majority of atheists I've met.

Though if I thought someone was a bad person I'd say it whether they were alive, dead or dying. I would be careful only due to the person I was speaking to. For example, I was talking about it with a friend of mine and she said she was crying last night, I wouldn't say anything bad or anything that I felt would upset her in that case.

[m1lesteg]

I would say publicly denouncing a gay rights rally as an "affront to families" would be at least evidence to that effect. I didn't say he was bad, I said he was good for what I would expect out of a pope (all the flaws of religion, but tries to heal the wounds that catholicism has caused others in the past). I just think most of the people whining about him in this threat are doing it out of youthful rebellion and anger more than anything else, pretty much like the majority of atheists I've met.

Though if I thought someone was a bad person I'd say it whether they were alive, dead or dying. I would be careful only due to the person I was speaking to. For example, I was talking about it with a friend of mine and she said she was crying last night, I wouldn't say anything bad or anything that I felt would upset her in that case.

I think we secretly have a pretty similar view on this, just using different words. I admit, I wrote you off as one of those "youthful rebellious" types, my apologies. I suppose I spoke with a bit too much hyperbole. Of course he wasn't perfect, but as far as Popes go, I would say he did his job very well.

[Zenithian Legend]

I think it'd be a nice gesture on the part of Sinead O' Rebellion to sing "Nothing Compares to U" at his funeral.

[evilmax17]

Of course he wasn't perfect, but as far as Popes go, I would say he did his job very well.

Eh, he was no John XXIII, that's for damn sure.

[alonzomourning23]

I think it'd be a nice gesture on the part of Sinead O' Rebellion to sing "Nothing Compares to U" at his funeral.

Umm........ she is a catholic. She was ordained a priest by a splinter group of catholicism, not under the pope but still catholic. She's still a very open, liberal catholic, but she is a catholic again.

[ryanbph]

Wait, what does that have to do with anything? If the majority of americans oppose homosexuality as sinful, that can't be something bad? Though seriously "if you aren't christian don't make a comment" get a clue, he's a world figure. I'm sure when other world figures die you rush up and say "if you're not X don't make a comment".

An earlier poster had mentioned that the pope was bad due to him talking about the gay community. Society determines right and wrong, and society does/will evolve over time to change what is right and wrong ( ie slavery). But saying the pope is evil, wrong etc.. due to his beliefs on the homosexual lifestyle, is an opinion not fact, and an opinion of the minority. Mayb e 5, 10, 15 or even 20 years from now, a gay lifestyle will be generally accepted, and embraced. As of now it isn not in the USA

If a popular figure from faction X died, from an affiliation which I don't believe in, I wouldn't be pissing on him on a message board. I would keep my mouth shut. Like many liberals did with Ronald Regan. The Democrats in the 1980's hated him and what he stood for, but they stood at his wake and spoke of him with honor. The Pope deserves the same. You can't hold the Pope, or the Cathlioc religion responsible for a fair amount of bad priests. Humans are not perfect, and everyone messes up in their life

[alonzomourning23]

An earlier poster had mentioned that the pope was bad due to him talking about the gay community. Society determines right and wrong, and society does/will evolve over time to change what is right and wrong ( ie slavery). But saying the pope is evil, wrong etc.. due to his beliefs on the homosexual lifestyle, is an opinion not fact, and an opinion of the minority. Mayb e 5, 10, 15 or even 20 years from now, a gay lifestyle will be generally accepted, and embraced. As of now it isn not in the USA

If a popular figure from faction X died, from an affiliation which I don't believe in, I wouldn't be pissing on him on a message board. I would keep my mouth shut. Like many liberals did with Ronald Regan. The Democrats in the 1980's hated him and what he stood for, but they stood at his wake and spoke of him with honor. The Pope deserves the same. You can't hold the Pope, or the Cathlioc religion responsible for a fair amount of bad priests. Humans are not perfect, and everyone messes up in their life

I don't think I've ever called anyone evil in my entire life, and determing if someone is good/bad is usually based on opinion. Though there is a cutoff point. For example, someone who believed in segregation in 1900 would not be judged by that. But when the momentum starts to turn against it, in the 50's for example, then that starts becoming part of their legacy. When there are two strongly supported sides, that's when the side you take should be in your legacy.

Though I'll state my opinion anywhere, as long as it doesn't upset someone I care about (as I mentioned earlier, a friend of mine said she was crying last night, so I wouldn't say anything even remotely negative about him). I've often had people get angry at me over comments I made about people, they're the same comments I always make except now I make them when they're dead. I even had a burger king employee get angry at me when I said, to a friend, "well at least I didn't care about the guy" when reagan died, when we had just found out, on the tv there, that he died.

[projecteightysix]

i wonder if the pope ever rubbed his twinkie.

[Wulfshake]

i wonder if the pope ever rubbed his twinkie.
Before he was the Pope, maybe
After, Yeah.

[markholladay]

I am not catholic. But if he dies it could be somthing serious. I am not talking about apocalypse or anything like that. But a pope has not died in most of our lives. It is just weird to think about it in a way. I think it will have a ripple effect through most of society, not just religion.

[Scorch]

now he's gone. RIP.

[nickmad]

yayyyyy