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CheapyD
04-04-2005, 11:01 PM
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In May 2005, CAG switched over the Trader Ratings (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/traderratings.php) system.

Trader Ratings
Copyright İ2004 Jason Rabel, All Rights Reserved.


Features:
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• Rate another member: Positive (+1) / Neutral (0) / Negative (-1)
• Specify Buyer, Seller, or Trade
• Leave comments about the deal
• Records date when rating created
• Specify a URL to the deal thread
• Display ratings over time
• Filter based on Buyer/Seller/Trade/or feedback they left for others
• Users can edit/delete ratings they left for others (time based limitation)
• Admins & Mods can edit/delete anyone's ratings (just in case)
• Stats page showing best & worst rated members, and recent ratings
• PM notification when a person is rated

Basic Information:
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Feedback Score is based on UNIQUE members (like Ebay). The system still tracks Total Feedback Received.

• Traders had a month to compile their own feedback via provided Excel forms and submit them as per the sticky that was in the Trading Forum.
Over 100 CAGs submitted their feedback.

• You can still get your old feedback into the new system by contacting CAGs you have dealt with previously and asking them to leave you feedback.
Traders are still allowed (and encouraged) to leave feedback for past trades.

• Each CAG has his/her own feedback page. You can leave feedback for other users by clicking through to their own feedback page and clicking:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/icons/icon2.gif Submit Feedback For _______

• You can find a CAG's feedback score and links to their own feedback page on their Profile screen and on the Memberlist.

• You can easily search the Memberlist and see useful statistics on the CAG Trader Ratings (http://forumdisplay.php/?f=40) home page. You will notice a link to that page on the Forum Index and at the top of this forum.

• When entering feedback, CAGs are encouraged to include a link to the trading thread for past & current transactions.

• If you feel that you have been left negative feedback unfairly, please contact myself or a moderator.

• The date listed in the system is that of when the feedback was entered, not the date of the transaction

•2000+ feedback were imported via the Excel sheets with the date 5-02-05.



Thanks,
CD


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Old feedback threads

1) http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75
2) http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14682
3) http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29801
4) http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42532



Feedback I've Received List (as of 4/24/05 9pm EST)
click the thumbnail below to see the list

punqsux
04-04-2005, 11:13 PM
i am typing up peoples feedback for $7 per user!
see my post below!

2 cags have contacted me about doing their feedback, i did one of them already and i discovered he actully had 51 positive feedback, as opposed to the 50 he was credited for in the tally.

i will do anyones feedback with less than 100 total feedback for $7 (if you have more than 100, PM me) i can not promise it will be 100% perfect (i lost 3 on my own feedback total) but as you can see with the case above, you might even end up with more. i will only be recording the traded with CAG and the feedback left, everything else will be left blank. if you have had any neg or neutral feedbacks left for you, you must tell me in your PM.

thems the rules...7 bucks per excel file!

Mr Unoriginal
04-04-2005, 11:24 PM
i am typing up peoples feedback for $7 per user!
see my post below!

How long did typing up 50 take you? I'm so goddamn lazy I'm really thinking about starting fresh.

punqsux
04-04-2005, 11:36 PM
How long did typing up 50 take you? I'm so goddamn lazy I'm really thinking about starting fresh.
bout 20 mins after i got a system down.

the first feedback i did was my own, and that ended up taking an hour

Mr Unoriginal
04-04-2005, 11:42 PM
So USERID1 is me and USERID2 is the person who left me the feedback? Do I have to put my id # for each feedback?

punqsux
04-04-2005, 11:42 PM
yes and yes

Mr Unoriginal
04-04-2005, 11:43 PM
yes and yes

Death to change.

Mr Unoriginal
04-04-2005, 11:45 PM
Ok another question, hopefully other people will have these too. Where ar the other feedback threads?

shrike4242
04-05-2005, 11:51 AM
Are we still going to carry forward the tally numbers from the old feedback system, in the "Trader Feedback (Old)" attribute, like we talked about in the older thread?

Also, are we sticking to the May 1 cutoff to have all old feedback entered into the new system? If we are and someone wants to have their feedback entered in after May 1 (say being in the hospital or some other mishap), what're we going to do? Break out the "late fee" payment that goes into the upkeep of CAG?

judyjudyjudy
04-05-2005, 11:58 AM
When will we start using the new feedback system? Kind of related to shrike's question, is May 1st the cutoff date for what's considered "old" feedback? (Like, should people who are doing trades between now and May 1st put feedback for those trades into their Excel sheets? Or should people just post the feedback thread and enter it into the new system when it's implemented?)

CheapyD
04-05-2005, 12:53 PM
No, we are not going to carry over anything thats not in your excel sheet.
Any feedback that is accumulated after you submit your sheet, you will have to get your trading parter to enter on the new system, after May 1.

Mr Unoriginal
04-05-2005, 12:56 PM
No, we are not going to carry over anything thats not in your excel sheet.
Any feedback that is accumulated after you submit your sheet, you will have to get your trading parter to enter on the new system, after May 1.

So it's pretty much in our best interest to send you our excell sheet the last day of april?

wubb
04-05-2005, 02:23 PM
Did mine in about 5 minutes (all 4 of them :) )

Just a few questions:

1. We should go ahead and put in feedback from the same user right? (I have 2 from shrike) even though the new system will show your unique score.

2. The feedback doesn't have to be listed out in the spreadsheet in chrono order does it?

I've assumed the answers to these questions and they seem like obvious assumptions, but if I was wrong please correct me.

I know there was talk in the original thread about requiring a link to the trade thread. My 2 cents is that we shouldn't do that since pretty much all the hairy details of a trade on this site are carried out through PMs 90%+ of the time. The trade thread generally won't show much except maybe that one trader had a trade thread and the tradee left a message of 'PM sent' and often won't even show that. Not much value there.

judyjudyjudy
04-05-2005, 02:32 PM
I know there was talk in the original thread about requiring a link to the trade thread. My 2 cents is that we shouldn't do that since pretty much all the hairy details of a trade on this site are carried out through PMs 90%+ of the time. The trade thread generally won't show much except maybe that one trader had a trade thread and the tradee left a message of 'PM sent' and often won't even show that. Not much value there.
I still think we should have links to posts in the feedback thread, since those posts show a good summary of a trade.

JimmieMac
04-05-2005, 03:11 PM
There's no way I'm doing any of this, but it's a great idea.

Sporadic
04-05-2005, 04:41 PM
You shall have a email in a couple minutes CheapyD

*EDIT* CheapyD I have links to all of my feedback but it links back to the old forum. Do you want me to add them anyways or just leave it blank? And does it need to be listed old feedback to new feedback or the other way around (or does it even matter what order you list them)*EDIT*

shrike4242
04-05-2005, 07:13 PM
Cheapy, Trakan and I, your faithful feedback talliers, were wondering what we should be doing while we're starting to transition into the new feedback system.

We're caught up feedback tally-wise until yesterday. As May 1 seems like the big day to make the move into the new system (or just the feedback submission cut-off point), what do we do in the interim?

Do we:
1) Continue with business as usual until the thread's locked with doing the tally updates.
2) Once the thread is locked, people will have to hold off on feedback until the new system is up and running.
3) People will enter their backlogged feedback + new feedback into the new system when it's up and running.

Or would it be:
1) Don't do anything with the feedback tally and let it keep accumulating into the feedback thread.
2) Once the thread is locked, people will have to hold off on feedback until the new system is up and running.
3) People will enter their backlogged feedback + new feedback into the new system when it's up and running.

Trakan
04-05-2005, 07:25 PM
The option I'd like to go for is locking it now, and asking CAGs to wait until the new one is up to leave feedback. I know it is asking a lot, but I think it'd go smoother and give them plenty of time to tally the old feedback and send it to you, Cheapy. I could update it real quick with any feedback left from yesterday as well.

Let us know your thoughts.

CheapyD
04-05-2005, 09:21 PM
The option I'd like to go for is locking it now, and asking CAGs to wait until the new one is up to leave feedback. I know it is asking a lot, but I think it'd go smoother and give them plenty of time to tally the old feedback and send it to you, Cheapy. I could update it real quick with any feedback left from yesterday as well.

Let us know your thoughts.
I agree. Once we upload the old feedback to the new system, we aren't going to be doing any more importing. People should hold off and enter the new feedback into the new system

silverandcold
04-06-2005, 09:04 AM
I cant do any of that excel stuff cause im on a Webtv..What am I supposed to do? I have only have 11 trades but im not starting from scratch.

shrike4242
04-06-2005, 10:55 AM
I cant do any of that excel stuff cause im on a Webtv..What am I supposed to do? I have only have 11 trades but im not starting from scratch.

If you find your 11 trade feedback and if you PM me the links to them, I'll be happy to do it for you. For free.

Mr Unoriginal
04-06-2005, 11:04 AM
If you find your 11 trade feedback and if you PM me the links to them, I'll be happy to do it for you. For free.

Ooo undercutting the competition. Take that punq.

masha
04-06-2005, 01:11 PM
If you find your 11 trade feedback and if you PM me the links to them, I'll be happy to do it for you. For free.


pung will ban you for this :lol: I have 42 can you do it too for free? O:) (It was suppouse to be an angel smile. It doesn't work)

punqsux
04-06-2005, 01:16 PM
actully, ill do his feedback for free if shrike dosent. no reason he should be left in the cold just because he lacks a computer.

judyjudyjudy
04-06-2005, 01:55 PM
For all you guys that don't have any Excel program, you can make a text file with all your feedback and give it to someone with excel and make it into an .xls program. I'd be willing to help convert files. You just need to separate your columns with tabs or commas or some other character, and different rows with new lines. For example, here's two rows from my excel file:

3075, 21338, 1, comment, 1, http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=826965#post826965
3075, 16519, 1, comment, 1, http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=792576#post792576

If you make a text file with lines like that, it'd be pretty easy to convert them to an xls file. For people's reference, first column is your userid # (person receiving feedback), the other person's user id #(person giving you feedback), next is whether it was positive(1) or neutral(0) or negative(-1), next is comments, next is if the other guy was a seller(1) buyer(2) trader(3), and last is a link. I believe only the first 3 are mandatory.

shrike4242
04-06-2005, 02:25 PM
Ooo undercutting the competition. Take that punq.

I wish my motives were that underhanded to knee-cap punq's $7 whoring. :D

No, if someone spends the time to do it, I'd be happy to toss it into Excel for them. Assuming it's not the whole of CAG doing it, and underdstand it's when I get the spare time to do it. :P

Masha, your halo is certainly hanging well off to one side. :rofl:

judyjudyjudy, how'd you find those individual posts? I never have any luck doing that, and I'd like to get the hint on how to do it, so I can put all the 274 links when I do mine.

judyjudyjudy
04-06-2005, 02:37 PM
judyjudyjudy, how'd you find those individual posts? I never have any luck doing that, and I'd like to get the hint on how to do it, so I can put all the 274 links when I do mine.
Well, I only had 13 feedback, so I just did a search for my name in the feedback threads. If you put the mouse over the title of the post in the search results, it gives that link. If you're going through each feedback thread, you can look at each post # and then make your own link. If you click the upper right number of each post, it gives you a link to the post by itself. If you want to link to the post in the thread, you can find the post # by putting your mouse over the upper right corner. Like for your last post, I put the mouse over "#26", and I see:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=871350&postcount=26
To make a link to the post in the thread, you do
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=871350#post871350

so the last part is "showthread.php?p=POSTID#postPOSTID"

I hope that made sense and is what you were asking for.

Trakan
04-06-2005, 04:11 PM
Cheapy, could you maybe word it how you'd like it to be worded and lock the feedback thread?

Then I'll update it.

shrike4242
04-06-2005, 04:31 PM
Cheapy, could you maybe word it how you'd like it to be worded and lock the feedback thread?

Then I'll update it.

Damn, I need one more feedback to make it to 275. ;)

Trakan, I'm working on silverandcold's feedback (just 'cause I'm such a nice guy), since it was smaller than yours, as a test, then I'll probably do yours sometime either tonight or tomorrow.

Trakan
04-06-2005, 04:51 PM
Damn, I need one more feedback to make it to 275. ;)

Trakan, I'm working on silverandcold's feedback (just 'cause I'm such a nice guy), since it was smaller than yours, as a test, then I'll probably do yours sometime either tonight or tomorrow.

:notworth:

shrike4242
04-06-2005, 05:01 PM
:notworth:

The odd thing is that he told me he had 11 feedback, though when he sent me the links, it was only 10. Sort of like what you told me in PM about yours. Curious, that.

I think I did his correctly, and I emailed it off to Cheapy. I'm sure if I did something wrong, he'll let me know.

judyjudyjudy
04-06-2005, 05:05 PM
The odd thing is that he told me he had 11 feedback, though when he sent me the links, it was only 10. Sort of like what you told me in PM about yours. Curious, that.

I think I did his correctly, and I emailed it off to Cheapy. I'm sure if I did something wrong, he'll let me know.
I told punqsux something similar, but sometimes people don't put spaces in between the "with?" and the username. So if there is a "Who did you trade with?silverandcold" it won't come up in your search. So you either have to do a search for "with?silverandcold" or "*silverandcold".

Edited to add:
I got 11 through searching... I found one that was like what I said here (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=814019#post814019) , is that the 11th one?

shrike4242
04-06-2005, 05:26 PM
I told punqsux something similar, but sometimes people don't put spaces in between the "with?" and the username. So if there is a "Who did you trade with?silverandcold" it won't come up in your search. So you either have to do a search for "with?silverandcold" or "*silverandcold".

Edited to add:
I got 11 through searching... I found one that was like what I said here (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=814019#post814019) , is that the 11th one?

When I was doing my searching, I was using the browser's built-in search for "silverandcold" on the page from links he sent me, instead of using CAG's search function. Much more work, though much more thorough, since it'll catch the no space issue you talk about above. Two of the links were the same link, and when I searched through the entire page, it just came up with one feedback post.

Rig
04-06-2005, 09:16 PM
So, the four character limit prevents me from searching for my username... :?

Is there any other easy way to find my feedback? Cause I really don't want to dredge through all four threads! :sad:

zewone
04-07-2005, 12:45 AM
So, the four character limit prevents me from searching for my username... :?

Is there any other easy way to find my feedback? Cause I really don't want to dredge through all four threads! :sad:

That sucks. Just have Cheapy knock down the character limit to 3 for you. :D

maccabee72
04-07-2005, 11:14 AM
Cheapy, I'm going to E-mail out my spreadsheet in a few minutes. It was a lot easier to do than I expected, and I found out my rating should actually be 19 instead of 18.

Edit: I'm a dummy! I counted line #1 on the spread sheet.....18 is right!

shrike4242
04-07-2005, 11:20 AM
So, the four character limit prevents me from searching for my username... :?

Is there any other easy way to find my feedback? Cause I really don't want to dredge through all four threads! :sad:

Rig, if you want, I'll do yours and you can do mine. Fair trade? ;)

CheapyD
04-07-2005, 11:34 AM
That sucks. Just have Cheapy knock down the character limit to 3 for you. :D
Sorry, even if I could, that wouldn't work.
I'd have to rebuild the entire search database which takes about 7 hours (read: not going to happen). Sorry.

shrike4242
04-07-2005, 11:45 AM
Cheapy, I'm going to E-mail out my spreadsheet in a few minutes. It was a lot easier to do than I expected, and I found out my rating should actually be 19 instead of 18.

Edit: I'm a dummy! I counted line #1 on the spread sheet.....18 is right!
Common Excel Mistake #1: Counting the column headers at data.

Doesn't make you a dummy, trust me on this.

Rig
04-07-2005, 05:55 PM
Rig, if you want, I'll do yours and you can do mine. Fair trade? ;)

Well, since I'm sure I've never seen you trade anything before, I guess that means you're a total n00b to the trading board...so sure! That sounds like a great idea! :D


Sorry, even if I could, that wouldn't work.
I'd have to rebuild the entire search database which takes about 7 hours (read: not going to happen). Sorry.

Awww... Damn me and my short ass username!

Well, looks like I'm going to start from scratch then. There's no way in holy hell that I'm going to delve into the feedback forums... :cry:

shrike4242
04-07-2005, 06:20 PM
Awww... Damn me and my short ass username!

Well, looks like I'm going to start from scratch then. There's no way in holy hell that I'm going to delve into the feedback forums... :cry:
Rig, if it really comes down to it, I'll go do it for you. I don't want you to get stiffed out of feedback because you can't search on your short ass username.

Rig
04-07-2005, 06:33 PM
Rig, if it really comes down to it, I'll go do it for you. I don't want you to get stiffed out of feedback because you can't search on your short ass username.

Nah, that's okay. I wouldn't want you to have to go through all of that either...

wubb
04-08-2005, 02:33 PM
Is there any plan to bring over the negative/neutral feedback that has been left to this point? I'm sure anyone that does their sheet will not be including that (why would you?) Knowing the positives someone has is nice, but the negs and neutrals are what really let you see what a trader is(n't) worth.

If not maybe we should put some kind of disclaimer somewhere on the main page that imported feedback ratings will generally not include any neutral or negative feedback that was left, so trader beware.

shrike4242
04-08-2005, 02:58 PM
Nah, that's okay. I wouldn't want you to have to go through all of that either...

I just did Trakan's, I'd be happy to do yours.

shrike4242
04-08-2005, 03:00 PM
Is there any plan to bring over the negative/neutral feedback that has been left to this point? I'm sure anyone that does their sheet will not be including that (why would you?) Knowing the positives someone has is nice, but the negs and neutrals are what really let you see what a trader is(n't) worth.

If not maybe we should put some kind of disclaimer somewhere on the main page that imported feedback ratings will generally not include any neutral or negative feedback that was left, so trader beware.

I think there's a plan to put the neg's aside in some way, though not sure about the neutrals.

That does raise an interesting point, since everyone's doing their own feedback, how can we enforce people putting in the negatives and neutrals? Have the mods do it, since there shouldn't be a huge number between the two, maybe a couple dozen. Might take a while to find 'em, though. Just because we're doing our own feedback doesn't mean we should be able to let the people with neutrals and negatives drop them because they "forgot" to do it.

Rig
04-08-2005, 03:04 PM
I just did Trakan's, I'd be happy to do yours.

:notworth: Okay shrike...and thanks! If it is too much trouble, then don't worry about it...

zewone
04-08-2005, 03:10 PM
I think there's a plan to put the neg's aside in some way, though not sure about the neutrals.

That does raise an interesting point, since everyone's doing their own feedback, how can we enforce people putting in the negatives and neutrals? Have the mods do it, since there shouldn't be a huge number between the two, maybe a couple dozen. Might take a while to find 'em, though. Just because we're doing our own feedback doesn't mean we should be able to let the people with neutrals and negatives drop them because they "forgot" to do it.

Maybe we can check to the feedback when they submitted it to see if they are suppose to have a neutral or negative. I don't think many users have either or so checking this shouldn't be too hard.

shrike4242
04-08-2005, 03:15 PM
Maybe we can check to the feedback when they submitted it to see if they are suppose to have a neutral or negative. I don't think many users have either or so checking this shouldn't be too hard.

The check could be a quick search for a 0 or a -1 in the Excel sheet, and then eyeball the tally thread looking for * or # symbols next to their name.

From a guess on the last tally update, there's less than a dozen users with a negative. Maybe a dozen and a half with neutrals, and there's a little overlap between the two groups.

Checking the feedback is a good idea, though with the volume that Cheapy might have to do, it might be better to have a separate done by one of the mods just for the neutrals and negs.

zewone
04-08-2005, 03:18 PM
Yeah, I think maybe Trakan and Punq can get a little extra work with that one. :D

shrike4242
04-08-2005, 03:39 PM
Yeah, I think maybe Trakan and Punq can get a little extra work with that one. :D

Might be punq, Trakan or me. :D

I just think it's the mods' responsibility to make sure that the people with neutrals and negs get into the feedback system, so people know that they need to approach with caution, or just run the other direction, depending on what happened. Otherwise, it'll be their problem when someone gets into a mess with someone over a funny/bad trade.

Trakan
04-08-2005, 03:58 PM
Once it's all said and done, and the new system is in place, I can just go in and add the neutrals and negs if that's alright with Cheapy. Wouldn't be much work, maybe 30 total feedback.

CheapyD
04-08-2005, 04:08 PM
Once it's all said and done, and the new system is in place, I can just go in and add the neutrals and negs if that's alright with Cheapy. Wouldn't be much work, maybe 30 total feedback.
The easiest way would probably create a "dummy account" maybe named..."Old
Feedback System" or something (or maybe get cagbot (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=12916)out of retirement), and then have that account leave the negative/neutral feedback.

How does that sound?

shrike4242
04-08-2005, 04:14 PM
The easiest way would probably create a "dummy account" maybe named..."Old
Feedback System" or something (or maybe get cagbot (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=12916)out of retirement), and then have that account leave the negative/neutral feedback.

How does that sound?

How about the "CheapyD Mighty Fist Of Justice" account? :rofl: "CheapyD's Can Of Whoopass"?

Yes, a dummy account to leave the feedback is a good idea.

Trakan
04-08-2005, 04:27 PM
Whatever works is fine with me. :)

PhrostByte
04-08-2005, 05:47 PM
Ok... At first I said "fuck this" but then I figured out how to do this quickly.

So here's how. Every feedback thread has like a million posts right...

So do this.

Go to Advanced Search.

type in your name or a portion of your name surrounded by astericks. for example: *phrost*

At least 300 replies.

Show results as: posts.

Done!

shrike4242
04-08-2005, 06:18 PM
Ok... At first I said "fuck this" but then I figured out how to do this quickly.

So here's how. Every feedback thread has like a million posts right...

So do this.

Go to Advanced Search.

type in your name or a portion of your name surrounded by astericks. for example: *phrost*

At least 300 replies.

Show results as: posts.

Done!

Actually, 35 posts x ~100-something pages, so ~3500+ posts per thread. 3 threads with 100+ pages, so that's around 11,000 posts, plus the 4th thread at 40+ pages, so you're talking about 12,000+ posts to search through. :D

I'll do yours if you do mine, Phrost. :D

PhrostByte
04-08-2005, 08:35 PM
Hm... I already did mine earlier today... How many do you have? 274? I might do that if it's only the first 3 columns. For my own thing.. I filled out every column.

menewbe
04-09-2005, 02:27 AM
hi guys. i was just wondering how do i find out my user id and also ids of people i traded with?..i looked through my profile page and around the members page but found nothing.

PhrostByte
04-09-2005, 03:10 AM
hi guys. i was just wondering how do i find out my user id and also ids of people i traded with?..i looked through my profile page and around the members page but found nothing.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?userid=1901

shrike4242
04-09-2005, 03:07 PM
Hm... I already did mine earlier today... How many do you have? 274? I might do that if it's only the first 3 columns. For my own thing.. I filled out every column.

Oh, I've done ones for Trakan and silverandcold so far, though I've yet to do my own.

Yes, for me, I'm doing own, all 274 of them. And fill out every column, too. My feedback, no reason to inflict that on someone else. :D

PhrostByte
04-09-2005, 03:18 PM
Ah I see.. well I figured I'd offer...

menewbe
04-10-2005, 01:14 AM
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?userid=1901

thanks PhrostByte..:D

wubb
04-11-2005, 05:28 PM
Is there anyway to let people know that you've received their XLS Cheapy? I think I sent mine a week or so ago, but I can't remember if I actually e-mailed it or just created the XLS.

CheapyD
04-12-2005, 11:43 AM
ill post a list in the OP later in the week, and update it each week.

PhrostByte
04-12-2005, 12:03 PM
Cheapy that test forum is just a test forum right? All the feedback will be erased once we switch over? Cuz I already used the test forum to post feedback about a trade I did :(

CheapyD
04-12-2005, 12:32 PM
Yes, all the feedback will be reset....

wubb
04-12-2005, 01:58 PM
ill post a list in the OP later in the week, and update it each week.

:applause:

Dark Slayer120
04-12-2005, 11:08 PM
Well looks like I'm done here, I don't have the time to do any of this or else I would. Nice while it lasted.

wubb
04-13-2005, 01:51 PM
Uh, it looks like you already have a link to all of your feedback in your sig. It'd probably take you like 5 minutes.

Anyway, if someone leaves me feedback after I e-mail my spreadsheet in, can I send in a new updated XLS by the end of the month or do I loose that feedback if I can't convince them to re-enter it under the new system?

shrike4242
04-13-2005, 02:12 PM
Well looks like I'm done here, I don't have the time to do any of this or else I would. Nice while it lasted.

Dropped you a PM, offering assistance.

Trakan
04-13-2005, 03:43 PM
Uh, it looks like you already have a link to all of your feedback in your sig. It'd probably take you like 5 minutes.

The links go to CAG in phpBB form, which now just links to cheapassgamer.com.

Those links won't work, but that would've been a good idea.

Sporadic
04-13-2005, 04:06 PM
Yes, all the feedback will be reset....

So should we just wait until the system is done before leaving feedback. Me and xboxhardcore.com just got done with a trade and don't know what to do.

doraemonkerpal
04-13-2005, 06:52 PM
WOOT WOOT! i just e-mailed cheapyd my feedback form hehe. it took less than 5 minutes b/c i only have 26 positives and i only filled up column's A, B and C.

EDIT: this is the method i used to do it so quickly:

1) download the feedback form

2) do a search for your username in the tradeback forum and have it list as posts, not topics

3) look down the posts and see which one's are positive feedback

4) move the mouse cursor over the name of the person that left you the positive. this'll show you his/her user id. (this is the part that'll make it easy for you b/c the search will show everybody who has typed in your name in the trading thread. you can just look down the thread and switch back and forth from the CAG webpage and excel.)

5) fill in column A with your user id, fill in column B with the id of the person who left you feedback. fill in column C with the number that represents what you received.

hopefully this helps persuade the peeps who are too lazy or are too intimidated to make this simple feedback form excel sheet. g'luck everybody!

Rig
04-13-2005, 11:57 PM
WOOT WOOT! i just e-mailed cheapyd my feedback form hehe. it took less than 5 minutes b/c i only have 26 positives and i only filled up column's A, B and C.

EDIT: this is the method i used to do it so quickly:

1) download the feedback form

2) do a search for your username in the tradeback forum and have it list as posts, not topics

3) look down the posts and see which one's are positive feedback

4) move the mouse cursor over the name of the person that left you the positive. this'll show you his/her user id. (this is the part that'll make it easy for you b/c the search will show everybody who has typed in your name in the trading thread. you can just look down the thread and switch back and forth from the CAG webpage and excel.)

5) fill in column A with your user id, fill in column B with the id of the person who left you feedback. fill in column C with the number that represents what you received.

hopefully this helps persuade the peeps who are too lazy or are too intimidated to make this simple feedback form excel sheet. g'luck everybody!

That works well for everyone with at least four letters in their username! ;)

doraemonkerpal
04-14-2005, 06:30 PM
That works well for everyone with at least four letters in their username! ;)

LMAO! :lol:

hmmm... i wish you the best rig :D

shrike4242
04-14-2005, 07:01 PM
That works well for everyone with at least four letters in their username! ;)

Yeah, blame your short-ass username. I know. :razz:

I'm going to try and work on yours this weekend, Rig. ;)

CheapyD
04-14-2005, 07:12 PM
Feedback I've Received List (as of 4/14/05 7pm EST) added to OP (scroll down)

shrike4242
04-14-2005, 07:15 PM
Feedback I've Received List (as of 4/14/05 7pm EST) added to OP (scroll down)

Is that feedback received and not imported, or received and imported?

Trakan
04-14-2005, 07:32 PM
Thanks again shrike.

shrike4242
04-14-2005, 10:29 PM
Thanks again shrike.
Happy to help.

CheapyD
04-15-2005, 12:05 PM
Is that feedback received and not imported, or received and imported?
Nothing will be imported until we stop taking feedback forms.

$hady
04-16-2005, 02:39 AM
The OpenOffice program keeps crashing, I dont have Excel.

JudyJudyJudy you have a PM can you PLEASE convert my text into Excel format, I have them typed as your post intstructed and i only have 5.

THANKS I LOVE YOU! :D

judyjudyjudy
04-16-2005, 06:15 PM
$hady, I got your PM :)

If anyone else wants to send me a text file (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=871267&postcount=25) of their feedback for conversion, feel free to email it to me.

suko_32
04-17-2005, 01:47 PM
I can only remember 14 out of my 18 trades....ahhhh!

Rig
04-17-2005, 08:06 PM
Yeah, blame your short-ass username. I know. :razz:

I'm going to try and work on yours this weekend, Rig. ;)

Thanks a bunch shrike! :D

dracula
04-17-2005, 11:15 PM
how on earth are we supposed to find the feedbacks in the threads? i dont even remember half the people i traded with.

judyjudyjudy
04-18-2005, 02:59 PM
how on earth are we supposed to find the feedbacks in the threads? i dont even remember half the people i traded with.

This is what PhrostByte said a couple pages back:


Go to Advanced Search.

type in your name or a portion of your name surrounded by astericks. for example: *phrost*

At least 300 replies.

Show results as: posts.

Done!

So if you do a search for *dracula* like he said, you should be able to find most of your feedback. The only thing I would add is to only do searches in the Cheap Ass Trading forum. Or if you're patient, you can search by thread.

$hady
04-18-2005, 03:27 PM
BIG THANKS to judyjudyjudy for converting my text file. :D

CheapyD you've got mail, lol.

smalien1
04-18-2005, 03:38 PM
I'll PP someone 2.50 to do mine, I have no excel whatsoever, for the full amount you must compile all info and put it into the excel and mail it to cheapy, PM/e-mail me.

FriskyTanuki
04-18-2005, 04:06 PM
Wait a minute! What the fuck has been decided and what do I need to do to be less of an idiot in getting caught up with the others who've done whatever's been decided?

zewone
04-18-2005, 04:09 PM
Wait a minute! What the fuck has been decided and what do I need to do to be less of an idiot in getting caught up with the others who've done whatever's been decided?

You can paypal Punq $7 and he will do it all for you, if you don't want to do that read the OP and get to work.

CheapyD
04-18-2005, 04:10 PM
I wonder how much punq would charge to combine all the spreadsheets and import all the feedback for me :)

GizmoGC
04-18-2005, 11:33 PM
Id be willing to pay a bit to have someone do mine. I have like 5 or so. PM me

chickenhawk
04-19-2005, 12:23 PM
Quick question....is the buyer/seller/trader and comments columns optional like the link column? I just looked up all my feedback but forgot to record the comments and whether or not I was the buyer, seller, or trader. Sorry if this has already been covered...

CheapyD
04-19-2005, 12:26 PM
Quick question....is the buyer/seller/trader and comments columns optional like the link column? I just looked up all my feedback but forgot to record the comments and whether or not I was the buyer, seller, or trader. Sorry if this has already been covered...
Yes, it is optional.
If you don't include if you are the buyer/seller/trader, I will default to trader.

chickenhawk
04-19-2005, 12:45 PM
Yes, it is optional.
If you don't include if you are the buyer/seller/trader, I will default to trader.

Thanks! Trader it is!!!

smalien1
04-19-2005, 01:58 PM
Just sent mine in.

shrike4242
04-19-2005, 02:41 PM
Wait a minute! What the fuck has been decided and what do I need to do to be less of an idiot in getting caught up with the others who've done whatever's been decided?

Go check the OP, should clear it all up for you. 8-)

shrike4242
04-19-2005, 02:42 PM
Thanks a bunch shrike! :D

Make that this weekend. Which I gotta get done, since yours is the tough one. :razz:

Four-character search limit indeed. :bomb:

FriskyTanuki
04-19-2005, 09:08 PM
You can paypal Punq $7 and he will do it all for you, if you don't want to do that read the OP and get to work.
screw punq! Plus, I don't have paypal, so I wouldn't be able to do if I wanted to.

punqsux
04-19-2005, 09:14 PM
screw punq! Plus, I don't have paypal, so I wouldn't be able to do if I wanted to.
i take cash and MO as well, screwing me will be more than $7 however :wink:

punqsux
04-19-2005, 09:16 PM
I wonder how much punq would charge to combine all the spreadsheets and import all the feedback for me :)

ill be sending in all the feedback i did for people in one giant excel file cheapy ^^

FriskyTanuki
04-19-2005, 09:34 PM
Okay, I'm done with it. Though I'm slightly disappointed that I haven't gotten feedback for a couple of trades. I guess I'll have to send them a PM asking nicely for some feedback. I'll be sending my feedback spreadsheet to Cheapy soon.

FriskyTanuki
04-19-2005, 09:38 PM
i take cash and MO as well, screwing me will be more than $7 however :wink:
Too late, it took me all of 10 minutes to do. ;) So I guess I could offer up my services to help anyone do there feedback for them as well. :D I could easily take PM offers from those interested. :D

CheapyD
04-20-2005, 10:31 AM
ill be sending in all the feedback i did for people in one giant excel file cheapy ^^
Brilliant!
I'm really keeping my fingers crossed that all goes well.
I think the new system is going to make (CAG trading) life much more pleasant.

Trakan
04-20-2005, 03:57 PM
Only one more week! :D

Unassuming Local Guy
04-20-2005, 04:00 PM
What do I need to do to transfer my feedback?

shrike4242
04-20-2005, 04:38 PM
Only one more week! :D

Don't remind me, I have my own feedback to collect, as well as volunteering my services for Rig and Adam Sol. :razz:

dracula
04-20-2005, 09:45 PM
email sent, thanks for finally updating the feedback system cheapy.

CheapyD
04-21-2005, 10:05 AM
I've been getting a few sheets a day this week...I'll post another update of whose feedack I've received (in the OP) tomorrow.

neonglow
04-22-2005, 09:30 PM
I just submitted my sheet. Hopefully everything was done correctly.

Pure Apathy
04-23-2005, 02:25 PM
Sending my feedback now

CheapyD
04-24-2005, 09:15 PM
OP is updated with emails received (scroll down to attachments)

smalien1
04-24-2005, 09:19 PM
Cheapy, I messed up my first one (only put my ID on the first transaction) and sent in another, is that OK and cleared up? Sorry I'm a tad bit retarted.

CheapyD
04-24-2005, 09:37 PM
no problem, smalien1.

Ledhed
04-24-2005, 10:22 PM
Submitted. Thanks Cheapy.

Callandor
04-24-2005, 10:31 PM
My mere, but all important 3 feedback has been submitted.

CheapyD
04-25-2005, 10:44 AM
So, I've got 50+ of these spreadsheets so far.
Who wants to be the lucky person who cuts and pastes them into one big spreadsheet? :pray:
I can pay with CAG t-shirts...

judyjudyjudy
04-25-2005, 02:18 PM
So, I've got 50+ of these spreadsheets so far.
Who wants to be the lucky person who cuts and pastes them into one big spreadsheet? :pray:
I can pay with CAG t-shirts...
When would you need them done by?

shrike4242
04-25-2005, 02:22 PM
I've worked on mine through the weekend, Cheapy, and should have it done in the next day or two. 160-something done, three feedback threads checked, six missing feedback found, two of the missing feedback submitted by the other parties.

Once I get mine done, it's on to Rig's and Adam Sol's.

superhugebutt
04-25-2005, 03:46 PM
So, I've got 50+ of these spreadsheets so far.
Who wants to be the lucky person who cuts and pastes them into one big spreadsheet? :pray:
I can pay with CAG t-shirts...

I can help you out with that, Cheapy! Let me know if you need me.

chickenhawk
04-25-2005, 03:54 PM
Spreadsheet sent! Thanks!!

gaelan
04-25-2005, 04:02 PM
my 10 have been recorded and sent. what do i do about a trade where i left for the other person, but they did not leave feedback for me? i will assume i'm SOL unless told otherwise.

shrike4242
04-25-2005, 04:10 PM
my 10 have been recorded and sent. what do i do about a trade where i left for the other person, but they did not leave feedback for me? i will assume i'm SOL unless told otherwise.

I found about eight of them that were missing in going through mine, gaelan.

I've sent the other person a small PM, with a link to the feedback I left them, and a request to have them leave me feedback. So far, so good, all people that have replied have done it. I have two more PM's outstanding with people, and haven't heard back from them yet.

If you show them the link to the post with your feedback for them (make sure to click on the post # for the post, and then send them a link to the specific post), I can't see why they wouldn't take the time to leave you the feedback you're asking for.

Of course, the four feedback across three people I have outstanding, two haven't been on in 10 days, and the other one blows off my PM's. I wish you luck, gaelan.

punqsux
04-26-2005, 10:02 AM
ok this is a message to anyone who paid me to do their feedback:

if you requested a copy of your feedback, and i didnt send it, i apologize, i was very busy last week and might not have had the chance to send them, however i think i caught up with this.

your feedback will be subnitted to cheapy before the new system goes in to effect, but is not submitted yet. im waiting until i finish with everyones so i only have to send him one file to save time.

i hope this answers all questions ^^

mmn
04-26-2005, 07:09 PM
This whole thing is horrible. I have to download an excel spreadsheet file and tread through 4 threads of hundreds of replies to find my feedback? Awful, just awful. Why is this so complicated? Why can't you just get a tally of the positive feedback we all have (which has already been done) and simply type it into the new system?

Because I don't want to spend 4 hours trying to find all my feedback or pay someone to do it for me now I'm stuck losing it all. That really stinks.

Ledhed
04-26-2005, 07:44 PM
Because I don't want to spend 4 hours trying to find all my feedback or pay someone to do it for me now I'm stuck losing it all. That really stinks.

You only have 14 feedback; trust me when I say your's will take no longer than 10 minutes to compile.


Finding your old feedback in 3 easy steps!

1) Click the "Search" button at the top of your menu, and the click "Advanced Search." You'll be redirected to the Advanced Search screen.

2) Enter your usename (in your case, "mmn") into the "Search for Keyword(s)" field on the left. Then, click "Cheap Ass Trading" in the lower-right "Search in Forum(s)" field. Then, click "Show results as: Posts" in the lower left-hand area. Finally, click "Search Now."

3) You should be redirected to individual posts created in the trading forum that included your name. Check the topic headers to find the posts that were made in Feedback threads. You should see every piece of feedback ever left for you by another user.

Then, simply follow the steps in the OP to figure out the User IDs and input those into the spreadsheet (which is amazingly simpler than it at first seems). It isn't that hard folks, and the amount of effort it takes is only altered to the degree of feedback you need to find. I had 9 feedback, and it took me 10 minutes to complete the ENTIRE process.

zewone
04-26-2005, 07:46 PM
He can't use the search feature because his name is only 3 characters long. He would have to look through every single page of the trade feedback threads.

Ledhed
04-26-2005, 07:51 PM
He can't use the search feature because his name is only 3 characters long. He would have to look through every single page of the trade feedback threads.

Ha, I forgot about that.

Oh well, win some, lose some. In the future mmn, be sure to pick a needlessly long and complicated username to prevent this kind of thing.

mmn
04-26-2005, 07:56 PM
Ha, I forgot about that.

Oh well, win some, lose some. In the future mmn, be sure to pick a needlessly long and complicated username to prevent this kind of thing.

Maybe I'll PM Cheapy and see if there's anything he can do to help me out. I really don't want to lose my feedback but theres no way I'm going to search through every page of every feedback thread.

zewone
04-26-2005, 07:58 PM
Maybe a temporary name change just to search and change it back after you have the excel feedback? It might work.

Ledhed
04-26-2005, 07:59 PM
Maybe I'll PM Cheapy and see if there's anything he can do to help me out. I really don't want to lose my feedback but theres no way I'm going to search through every page of every feedback thread.

Alot of users are offering to compile the info for other users, at a price. I don't know how much they'd charge you in light of the circumstances. But if there were a simpler way that Cheapy was aware of, he'd already have told us about it I imagine.

CheapyD
04-27-2005, 11:44 AM
Maybe a temporary name change just to search and change it back after you have the excel feedback? It might work.
That won't work, because it wont change his name in the posts. This is feedback left for him, not by him.

We will figure something out to get at least some of his feedback in there.

Is anyone else getting a little excited for the new system?
I think its going to be a great addition. I'm sure it wont be perfect, but it should be infinitely better than the previous system.

I also wanted to add that April 30th is going to be the last day that I am accepting old feedback.

chunk
04-28-2005, 02:36 AM
That won't work, because it wont change his name in the posts. This is feedback left for him, not by him.

We will figure something out to get at least some of his feedback in there.

Is anyone else getting a little excited for the new system?
I think its going to be a great addition. I'm sure it wont be perfect, but it should be infinitely better than the previous system.

I also wanted to add that April 30th is going to be the last day that I am accepting old feedback.

Perhaps try to search CAG with google? If not then I'm sure you have more access to the info then the rest of us, don't you cheapy?

I am happy about the new system, but I don't understand why the old system was the way it was. On some other forums there is just a single thread with a single post at the top. In that post there is a list of user names and each time a trade takes place both traders PM the mod who updates the list by adding a + sign to each name to indicate positive feedback (of course if it is your first trade then instead of a + you simply get your name added). I don't understand why that wasn't how things were done here.

Anyhoo, I think some people were complaining about problems with openoffice? Well here is another FOS excel-compatible spreadsheet program:
http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnumeric/

And here is a direct link to the last working windows version (I'm sure most nonwindows users would already know about it):
http://www.gnome.org/~jody/gnumeric/win32/gnumeric-1.4.3-rc3.exe

zionoverfire
04-28-2005, 02:50 AM
I am happy about the new system, but I don't understand why the old system was the way it was. On some other forums there is just a single thread with a single post at the top. In that post there is a list of user names and each time a trade takes place both traders PM the mod who updates the list by adding a + sign to each name to indicate positive feedback (of course if it is your first trade then instead of a + you simply get your name added). I don't understand why that wasn't how things were done here.


Because the Mod in charge would have an overflowing PM box, part of the problem with the current feedback system is that people get sick of updating the list every 4 days. I helped on the updates for a couple of months and it gets really boring quickly.

dracula
04-28-2005, 04:05 AM
Maybe I'll PM Cheapy and see if there's anything he can do to help me out. I really don't want to lose my feedback but theres no way I'm going to search through every page of every feedback thread.


here is what you do: check your PM message box, and if you made trades with those people, then click their name to get their userid # and that is really what you need.

kaji7p56
04-28-2005, 04:29 AM
E-mailed mine.

shrike4242
04-28-2005, 10:00 AM
Because the Mod in charge would have an overflowing PM box, part of the problem with the current feedback system is that people get sick of updating the list every 4 days. I helped on the updates for a couple of months and it gets really boring quickly.

As I started to do it after zion decided he was done with it, I agree, that it was a pain to get it done, since it was 1-2 hours of solid work.

shrike4242
04-28-2005, 05:23 PM
Well, I've completed my feedback sheet. :shock: Went through all the trade threads to get it done, and boy, is that a real pain in the backside.

Found about about ten missing feedbacks, had six of them leave me feedback, two of them are by someone who hasn't been on CAG in about two weeks, one is for someone who's in the same boat, and the last one is someone who didn't leave me feedback and refuses to answer my PM's or leave me any feedback.

So, all told 282 feedback. :shock: I'll toss it in email either tomorrow or Saturday, just in case I get some of those missing feedbacks.

yeldarb367
04-28-2005, 06:46 PM
I e-mailed mine yesterday. I'll assume you got it. Bring on the new system!

shrike4242
04-28-2005, 10:06 PM
Cheapy, I emailed the feedback submission for Adam Sol.

js1
04-29-2005, 12:40 PM
js1's has been sent.

shrike4242
04-29-2005, 12:46 PM
Cheapy, I also emailed in the four for DarkSayian that I could find. He's done more trades, though the other parties haven't left him feedback, so I urged him to get them to leave feedback in the new system when it's up and running.

notoriousxbox
04-29-2005, 03:29 PM
Just emailed the one for notoriousxbox :)

supermariomelee
04-29-2005, 06:44 PM
Well, just emailed mine. I found out there are some I never left feedback for(which for the ones I didn't I'll wait until the new system is up to leave it).

Ziv_Zulander
04-29-2005, 11:52 PM
Just emailed my feedback, hope everything turns out alright.

defiance_17
04-30-2005, 12:21 AM
I just finished mine, but some of my feedback (from banned members) has disappeared. Should I enter it anyway, or do I just have to take the loss?

Eggplant_Wizard
04-30-2005, 03:02 AM
I e-mailed mine a few days ago right around the last update. Did you ever get it?

defiance_17
04-30-2005, 11:04 AM
My spreadsheet has been sent.

CaseyRyback
04-30-2005, 12:25 PM
e-mail sent

ChaosZero
04-30-2005, 02:14 PM
Just found out that I had to send it today! E-mail sent!

FOnewearl
04-30-2005, 04:42 PM
Would it be ok to put in feedback for myself that people didn't leave for me? I noticed that about 1/3 to about 1/4 of the trades I did I didn't recieve feedback for.

I have been thinking about giving a friendly reminder to these people once the new feedback is in place but I though it would be easier if I could do it myself. I could also find the feedback I left for them to help show that I'm not just making up feedback for trades that never happened.

judyjudyjudy
04-30-2005, 04:53 PM
Would it be ok to put in feedback for myself that people didn't leave for me? I noticed that about 1/3 to about 1/4 of the trades I did I didn't recieve feedback for.

I have been thinking about giving a friendly reminder to these people once the new feedback is in place but I though it would be easier if I could do it myself. I could also find the feedback I left for them to help show that I'm not just making up feedback for trades that never happened.
I wouldn't recommend doing the first, since you're essentially making up your own feedback. (Sometimes people don't leave feedback because they forgot, are lazy, don't care about feedback, or don't want to give a less than perfect feedback.) If you really want their feedback that bad, you can bug them to add it in the new system. I personally don't like the idea of putting in feedback for yourself that was never given.

FOnewearl
04-30-2005, 05:21 PM
I wouldn't recommend doing the first, since you're essentially making up your own feedback.(Sometimes people don't leave feedback because they forgot, are lazy, don't care about feedback, or don't want to give a less than perfect feedback.) If you really want their feedback that bad, you can bug them to add it in the new system. I personally don't like the idea of putting in feedback for yourself that was never given.

I figured out how to find the feedback I left for trades that I didn't get feedback back for maybe I could just PM those peeps after the new feedback system is up with the link as I honestly think most of them just forgot & didn't mean not to leave feedback. I also didn't get the impression that anyone was unhappy with any of the trades I have done & I remember seeing encoragement here on CAG for people to get ahold of a trader before leaveing negative feedback although I'm thinking what you meant is that if someone felt like giving an 8 instead of a 10 for a trade rating they felt like they were being rude leaving an 8 & didn't leave feedback instead.

I understand why you wouldn't like the idea of making your own feedback only thing I could really come up with was a link to the feedback I left for the trade to at least be of some proof I traded but I still would be doing my own feedback

Edit - just sent mine in

Scarface7
04-30-2005, 05:27 PM
Sent mine in just now.

joshingit
04-30-2005, 09:04 PM
Cheapy, I think I sent it....

shrike4242
04-30-2005, 09:16 PM
I figured out how to find the feedback I left for trades that I didn't get feedback back for maybe I could just PM those peeps after the new feedback system is up with the link as I honestly think most of them just forgot & didn't mean not to leave feedback. I also didn't get the impression that anyone was unhappy with any of the trades I have done & I remember seeing encoragement here on CAG for people to get ahold of a trader before leaveing negative feedback although I'm thinking what you meant is that if someone felt like giving an 8 instead of a 10 for a trade rating they felt like they were being rude leaving an 8 & didn't leave feedback instead.

I understand why you wouldn't like the idea of making your own feedback only thing I could really come up with was a link to the feedback I left for the trade to at least be of some proof I traded but I still would be doing my own feedback

Edit - just sent mine in

First off, making your own feedback is a really bad idea. You don't know if someone had an issue with the trade, even if they didn't leave you negative feedback. I found multiple feedbacks I left for people that didn't have reciprocation, and they were more than happy to leave me feedback, and generally felt bad for not doing it. I ended up with 10 missing feedback and had 6 out of 10 of them reposted. The other four, three are from two people who haven't been on in two weeks, and the other one is from someone who's blown off PM's for six weeks.

Through making up your own feedback, you could easily boost your stats well beyond what you've really done, and doing that alone could give people a lack of desire to trade with you, because you're dishonest.

In all truth, getting your feedback is your responsbility, and part of the reason to switch to the new system is to have this not be something that needs to be chased down.

Send them a PM and ask them nicely to leave you feedback for the trade, and send them a link to your feedback for them. If they'll do it, then great, and if they won't, weigh that in mind when deciding to deal with them in the future.

Johnny Postman
04-30-2005, 09:45 PM
spreadsheet sent... could only find 30 feedback posts for me (31 feedback score) and no clue as to where that last one might have gotten too.

neonglow
05-01-2005, 01:38 AM
Since today is the last day to submit our sheets, when will all our data transfer to the new system?

Heyricochet
05-01-2005, 11:42 AM
Oops. I missed the due date. Oh well, I only had a couple feedback anyway. Damn finals.

Steggy
05-01-2005, 05:55 PM
Oops. I missed the due date. Oh well, I only had a couple feedback anyway. Damn finals.

:( bye bye 30+ trades... damn work, Im always out of the loop on things like this!

neonglow
05-01-2005, 09:03 PM
:( bye bye 30+ trades... damn work, Im always out of the loop on things like this!

You can always ask the people that left you feedback before to leave the same feedback again.

maccabee72
05-02-2005, 09:20 AM
I just got a few more feedbacks since I e-mailed my spreadsheet. Is it too late to submit the updated spreadsheet?

judyjudyjudy
05-02-2005, 09:26 AM
I just got a few more feedbacks since I e-mailed my spreadsheet. Is it too late to submit the updated spreadsheet?
Why not have them redo them in the new system when it's done being implemented?

wubb
05-02-2005, 09:38 AM
^^ That's what I plan to do. I mailed my sheet in really early in April, thinking I wouldn't do much trading that month. So now i have like 10 people I need to beg to leave me FB once the new system goes live :)

Sure that'd be half an hour worth of trading for shrike, but for me that's a heck of a lot ;)

shrike4242
05-02-2005, 10:43 AM
:( bye bye 30+ trades... damn work, Im always out of the loop on things like this!

The spreadsheet was just an easy way to mass-dump the feedback into the new system, and put the onus on keeping the feedbacks on you. Cheapy had to put a deadline on it, or he'd be doing them until the end of time.

I'd take the steps of identifying all your feedbacks, compile them together into a text file or something like that, and PM the people in question, with links to their feedbacks for you, and ask them to put it into the new system.

shrike4242
05-02-2005, 10:44 AM
^^ That's what I plan to do. I mailed my sheet in really early in April, thinking I wouldn't do much trading that month. So now i have like 10 people I need to beg to leave me FB once the new system goes live :)

Sure that'd be half an hour worth of trading for shrike, but for me that's a heck of a lot ;)

Heh, wubb, such the funny guy. :razz:

I have a number of feedbacks pending up for the new system as well, and I had a couple sneak in right at the wire, which was why I waited on mine until Saturday, just in case.

SkyGheNe
05-02-2005, 10:46 AM
Do any of you guys know when the new system is gonna be up? I got a bunch of feedback to leave for people and i'm trying to keep track of it lol.

shrike4242
05-02-2005, 10:48 AM
Do any of you guys know when the new system is gonna be up? I got a bunch of feedback to leave for people and i'm trying to keep track of it lol.

I would think that it shouldnt' be very long, since with the cutoff date of Saturday for feedback, it might just be a "load the feedback in, make sure it all looks good, and then turn it on" situation.

I'm sure when a date has been nailed down, Cheapy will post something in here.

Steggy
05-02-2005, 11:35 AM
thanks shrike, i just emailed the document to cheapy yesterday. he said he could still take it. If not, judyjudyjudy said shed take care of it.

shrike4242
05-02-2005, 11:39 AM
thanks shrike, i just emailed the document to cheapy yesterday. he said he could still take it. If not, judyjudyjudy said shed take care of it.

When you say "document", did you send him the Excel file, as stated in his OP, or a text document? If you sent him a text document, I'm not sure what he's going to do with it, though I know judyjudyjudy has helped out other CAGs with transcribing it into an Excel document.

judyjudyjudy
05-02-2005, 11:43 AM
When you say "document", did you send him the Excel file, as stated in his OP, or a text document? If you sent him a text document, I'm not sure what he's going to do with it, though I know judyjudyjudy has helped out other CAGs with transcribing it into an Excel document.
I'm helping Cheapy compile the feedback, so it doesn't really matter in the end :)

shrike4242
05-02-2005, 11:45 AM
I'm helping Cheapy compile the feedback, so it doesn't really matter in the end :)

That's right, I remember you offering up your assistance to compile it into one big spreadsheet. Might as well as use mine as the starting one, makes the copy and paste a little smaller. :D

CheapyD
05-02-2005, 11:48 AM
JudyJudyJudy has volunteered to put all the spreadsheets together into one big file.
Its my understanding that she is almost finished, but perhaps I misunderstood.

So, I think we should have the new system up and running pretty soon.

shrike4242
05-02-2005, 11:51 AM
JudyJudyJudy has volunteered to put all the spreadsheets together into one big file.
Its my understanding that she is almost finished, but perhaps I misunderstood.

So, I think we should have the new system up and running pretty soon.

And there was much rejoicing. :bouncy: As well as the release of the torrent of held-back feedback upon the release of the new system.

wubb
05-02-2005, 01:26 PM
:bow: judyx3 :bow:

shrike4242
05-02-2005, 01:33 PM
:bow: judyx3 :bow:

She does rock our socks. :bow::bow:

wubb
05-02-2005, 01:45 PM
Are you able to respond to FB left for you with traderratings? I did a little research and it doesn't seem like you can, just wondering if anyone knows for sure.

Doesn't change the fact that this system will be a ton better than the old way :)

Trakan
05-02-2005, 03:18 PM
Awesome. I'm really looking forward to the new system now. Can't wait.

Ledhed
05-02-2005, 03:23 PM
Judy, were it lawful for me to do so, I'd buy you a beer.

Fuck, that reminds me, I still owe shrike one. I'm not even of legal drinking ago and I'm already running up a massive tab...

shrike4242
05-02-2005, 03:28 PM
Judy, were it lawful for me to do so, I'd buy you a beer.

Fuck, that reminds me, I still owe shrike one. I'm not even of legal drinking ago and I'm already running up a massive tab...

I'm sure Cheapy can always fill in for the beer-buying. :D

And yes, the PM with that beer promise was eaten in the great migration of 2005, so I only have your word on that. :roll: Damn youngin's. You owe me a beer and parental rights on the Arikado-Ledhed Halo 2 superbaby, y'know. ;)

judyjudyjudy
05-02-2005, 05:40 PM
Bowdowns and a promise of beer from someone who can't buy any... awww, you guys are just too sweet :grouphug:

And I think I'm getting the last straggling feedback from Cheapy tonight, so super slackers still have a little bit of time left.

shrike4242
05-02-2005, 05:43 PM
Bowdowns and a promise of beer from someone who can't buy any... awww, you guys are just too sweet :grouphug:

And I think I'm getting the last straggling feedback from Cheapy tonight, so super slackers still have a little bit of time left.

You deserve a beer for the work of copying and pasting my monstrous hunk of feedback. For the rest of it, flowers and beer. :D

So, after tonight, the door's really closed? Good to know.

Trakan and I are trying to knock our heads together on the old feedback thread, which is tenatively decided to lock it immediately, push people to go to the new system for feedback drops (only a few feedbacks left in the last 24 hours), and get a final tally count for the old system being shut down.

judyjudyjudy
05-02-2005, 05:49 PM
So the feedback thread is going to be locked? Can we still have a thread where we can still post a feedback post and then link the feedback in the system to the post? I kind of like the in-depth feedback posts that we have now.

shrike4242
05-02-2005, 06:05 PM
So the feedback thread is going to be locked? Can we still have a thread where we can still post a feedback post and then link the feedback in the system to the post? I kind of like the in-depth feedback posts that we have now.

We need to close down the existing one, so we can get a final count on the feedbacks for users in the "old" system.

If there's going to be something else put in its place, like you're asking for, it's up to Cheapy.

swetooth9
05-02-2005, 06:41 PM
Bowdowns and a promise of beer from someone who can't buy any... awww, you guys are just too sweet :grouphug:

And I think I'm getting the last straggling feedback from Cheapy tonight, so super slackers still have a little bit of time left.

i forgot about this, and have just finished my spreadsheet; do i e-mail it you since cheapy's deadline was 2 days ago?

thanks

shrike4242
05-02-2005, 06:43 PM
i forgot about this, and have just finished my spreadsheet; do i e-mail it you since cheapy's deadline was 2 days ago?

thanks

I'd recommend PMing her and asking her.

judyjudyjudy
05-02-2005, 06:46 PM
i forgot about this, and have just finished my spreadsheet; do i e-mail it you since cheapy's deadline was 2 days ago?

thanks
e-mail it to Cheapy and CC it to me.
Edited to add: My email is *removed*

swetooth9
05-02-2005, 06:55 PM
thanks, judy * 3 :) it's been sent

CheapyD
05-03-2005, 09:49 AM
Thanks to judyjudyjudy, I have in my compiled feedback sheet in my posession.
Hopefully, we can get this thing up and running today or tomorrow!

wubb
05-03-2005, 11:14 AM
Sweet, can't wait.

shrike4242
05-03-2005, 11:30 AM
Excellent news.

craven_fiend
05-03-2005, 11:52 AM
Three cheers for judyjudyjudy

:applause::applause::applause:

Three cheers for CheapyD

:applause::applause::applause:

Three cheers for CheapAssGamer

:applause::applause::applause:

Three cheers for.......

Rig
05-03-2005, 12:02 PM
Thanks to judyjudyjudy, I have in my compiled feedback sheet in my posession.
Hopefully, we can get this thing up and running today or tomorrow!

w00t! Thanks to cheapy and judyjudyjudy and anybody else that got this going!

shrike4242
05-03-2005, 12:17 PM
w00t! Thanks to cheapy and judyjudyjudy and anybody else that got this going!

I sent along your feedback on Saturday, Rig, to Cheapy. supadupacheap helped me find all of your feedback, though there's a lot of people that you've left feedback for that didn't leave you feedback in response. Maybe 1 out of 2.

evo t rex
05-03-2005, 12:23 PM
S#IT! I didn't see this thing!

Is it too late? Have I lost my feedback?

CheapyD
05-03-2005, 12:31 PM
If you have not sent me your old feedback, you will have to get your previous traders to leave you feedback once the new system is up and running.

Rig
05-03-2005, 12:32 PM
I sent along your feedback on Saturday, Rig, to Cheapy. supadupacheap helped me find all of your feedback, though there's a lot of people that you've left feedback for that didn't leave you feedback in response. Maybe 1 out of 2.

:bouncy: :bow: :bouncy:

Thanks to you shrike, as well as supadupacheap!

shrike4242
05-03-2005, 12:49 PM
If you have not sent me your old feedback, you will have to get your previous traders to leave you feedback once the new system is up and running.

Which is only a real issue if you have a huge bunch of it.

evo t rex
05-03-2005, 01:27 PM
If you have not sent me your old feedback, you will have to get your previous traders to leave you feedback once the new system is up and running.

Flug. I can't even find listings of my feedback. The search engine brings up nothing when I put my name into it.

Come to that, it brings up nothing if I search for the game Rez as well.

shrike4242
05-03-2005, 01:37 PM
Flug. I can't even find listings of my feedback. The search engine brings up nothing when I put my name into it.

Come to that, it brings up nothing if I search for the game Rez as well.

The search field doesn't look for anything with three characters or smaller. When I tried to search with your name in quotes, as a string, it ignored the quotes and searched with the three parts of your name as separate words, and therefore brought up nothing.

This was an issue with Rig, mmn, 62t and other users with very short usernames.

The best way to find it is to search through all the trade threads (since you joined in Jan, you'd only need to look partway through #3 & all of #4), doing a find on the page for "evo t rex". I did this for Rig's feedback, and yes, it took a while, though I did find it all.

The links to the older feedback threads are in the feedback tally topic, and the feedback thread #4 is a sticky on the top of the trade forum.

Happy searching.

Eggplant_Wizard
05-03-2005, 04:04 PM
I sent my to you a week ago. I'm wondering if you got it?

If you have not sent me your old feedback, you will have to get your previous traders to leave you feedback once the new system is up and running.

judyjudyjudy
05-03-2005, 04:30 PM
I made a list of whose feedback I compiled... I'll post it later.

Here you go:
http://variableaspect.com/judyjudyjudy/trade/receivedfeedback.GIF

I was keeping track of emails, so the numbers next to the userID refers to your order in the emails I got form Cheapy. There are also a couple revisions in there, so a couple people are repeated in the list (but not in the feedback file I sent to Cheapy). Some revisions were sent to me directly, so don't worry if it's not listed... I probably got it.

swetooth9
05-03-2005, 04:49 PM
thanks cheapyd and judyjudyjudy...hope you 2 got my list :)

Trakan
05-03-2005, 08:26 PM
Thank you judyjudyjudy! :mrgreen:

Rig
05-03-2005, 08:35 PM
100. Rig

(w00t!) :D

EDIT: Cool! After looking at my Profile:

Member ProfileRecent RatingsContact InfoFeedback Score:
Positive Feedback:0
0%Members who left a positive:
Members who left a negative:0
0All positive feedback received:0
Past
MonthPast
6 MonthsPast
12 Monthshttp://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif Positive000http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/icons/icon5.gif Neutral000http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/images/icons/icon8.gif Negative000

Ledhed
05-03-2005, 08:36 PM
Thanks Judy. Feel free to collect on that beer in a year or so. ;)

evilmax17
05-03-2005, 08:46 PM
Uh, if I have just one feedback, can I just post the link here instead of filling out a spreadsheet?

EDIT:

would probably make sense if I linked to said feedback.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=821584&postcount=474

Trakan
05-03-2005, 09:34 PM
evilmax, once the new system is up, just get them to leave you that feedback again. According to the OP, Cheapy isn't accepting spreadsheets anymore.

tdphillips
05-03-2005, 10:08 PM
Ugh, this is what I get for ignoring the trading forum for a while. I hope I can get everyone to do feedback again. :-(

CheapyD
05-04-2005, 12:16 AM
A little update...
We have all the feedback in the new system...it seemed to go in just fine.
We need to just fix a minor issue and we should be good to go.
I predict it will be up and running tomorrow (daytime).
Mods can take a look, but its closed to the general public until the grand opening

FriskyTanuki
05-04-2005, 02:04 AM
Nice. Can't wait until it's up and running. I guess we get PM's when the other trader has left a feedback for us? Will it do that for older trades as well?

Querjek
05-04-2005, 06:44 AM
Ugh, this is what I get for ignoring the trading forum for a while. I hope I can get everyone to do feedback again. :-(
Same here... :-/

SkyGheNe
05-04-2005, 09:00 AM
sweet, can't wait.

CheapyD
05-04-2005, 09:43 AM
Nice. Can't wait until it's up and running. I guess we get PM's when the other trader has left a feedback for us?
Will it do that for older trades as well?
Yes, you will get PMs for feedback once the system is activated.
No, you will not get PMs for feedback that has been imported into the system (hopefully).

Rig
05-04-2005, 11:58 AM
No, you will not get PMs for feedback that has been imported into the system (hopefully).

I'd have a big :rofl: for shrike if this happens!

shrike4242
05-04-2005, 12:19 PM
I'd have a big :rofl: for shrike if this happens!

Yeah, methinks my PM box would runneth over. :roll:

shrike4242
05-04-2005, 12:22 PM
A little update...
We have all the feedback in the new system...it seemed to go in just fine.
We need to just fix a minor issue and we should be good to go.
I predict it will be up and running tomorrow (daytime).
Mods can take a look, but its closed to the general public until the grand opening

Though, this is part of the minor issue?

Feedback Score: 167
Positive Feedback: 100.0%
Members who left a positive: 167
Members who left a negative: 0
All positive feedback received: 284
167 != 284, last time I checked. Isn't supposed to be feedback score = total # of positive trades? All the #'s add up, 208 sell, 39 trade, 37 buy, which is 284, though the feedback score doesn't match the total # of positive feedback.

CheapyD
05-04-2005, 12:27 PM
Feedback score is based on feedback from unique users, not total trades.
It does track both though.

shrike4242
05-04-2005, 12:42 PM
Feedback score is based on feedback from unique users, not total trades.
It does track both though.

That would be the difference that I wasn't quite clued in on.

167 unique users, 284 total trades. :idea:

That's what happens when I leave my clue at home.

Plus proof, I'll trade with anybody. I'm not picky. :D

CheapyD
05-04-2005, 03:04 PM
We should be good to go by tonight, guys.
This system is so slick, I think I might have to start trading.

Each user's feedback score (and link to their feedback page) will appear on their profile screen, right under their user title. This way, you are pretty much always one click (with no scrolling) away from a users feedback score.

Example: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=16519

nachzeher
05-04-2005, 03:05 PM
Awesome Cheapy. :applause: Thanks for taking the trouble to do this.

Props to judyjudyjudy too, for helping out with the excel sheet.

wubb
05-04-2005, 03:06 PM
Me likey

shrike4242
05-04-2005, 03:08 PM
We should be good to go by tonight, guys.
This system is so slick, I think I might have to start trading.

Each user's feedback score (and link to their feedback page) will appear on their profile screen, right under their user title. This way, you are pretty much always one click (with no scrolling) away from a users feedback score.

Example: http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/member.php?u=16519

Hmmmmm, explains why my ears were burning. :rofl:

I checked on my profile screen, and it shows CAG Trader Rating (0) underneath my Moderator title. Shouldn't it be the feedback score of 167?

zewone
05-04-2005, 03:21 PM
Shouldn't it be the feedback score of 167?

Systems not up yet Shrike. In the post you quoted Cheapy said he would have it up by tonight. :lol:

CheapyD
05-04-2005, 03:24 PM
He just can't wait to see that triple digit score!

FriskyTanuki
05-04-2005, 03:28 PM
He just can't wait to see that triple digit score!
You should manually alter it to stay at 0 just to mess with him. :lol:

shrike4242
05-04-2005, 03:32 PM
Systems not up yet Shrike. In the post you quoted Cheapy said he would have it up by tonight. :lol:

This is what I get when I'm checking CAG, working on four PC's via RDP in Columbus, and answering work emails. Miss little details like that. :roll:

shrike4242
05-04-2005, 03:33 PM
He just can't wait to see that triple digit score!

If I couldn't wait, then I'd be putting a few :bouncy:'s in the post. :razz:

shrike4242
05-04-2005, 03:34 PM
You should manually alter it to stay at 0 just to mess with him. :lol:

I'm sure he'd toss me on the Wall Of Shame to mess with me, if he really wanted to. :shock:

And Cheapy, if you want to start trading, I hear there's this guy who's done a few trades. I could talk to him for you. ;)

CheapyD
05-04-2005, 07:06 PM
We need an "official" name for the feedback score

Some ideas:

CAG Feedback Score
CAG Trader Rating
CAG Trading Feedback
Cheap Ass Feedback Score
Cheap Ass Trader Rating

shrike4242
05-04-2005, 07:14 PM
We need an "official" name for the feedback score

Some ideas:

CAG Feedback Score
CAG Trader Rating
CAG Trading Feedback
Cheap Ass Feedback Score
Cheap Ass Trader Rating

CAG Trader Rank

wubb
05-04-2005, 07:32 PM
I like Cheap Ass Trader Rating

eBay calls it a Feeedback Score, FYI

zewone
05-04-2005, 07:34 PM
CAG Trading Feedback

craven_fiend
05-04-2005, 07:34 PM
CAG Trader Rank

I 2nded this without realizing it was Rank, instead of Rating. Stupid stupid stupid eyes.

CAG Feedback Rating

zewone
05-04-2005, 07:35 PM
Rank implies that its in order. As in Shrike would be 1 because he has the highest rank because he has the most trades, where as I would be 8 because I have the 8th most positive trades. Rank doesn't work.

CheapyD
05-04-2005, 07:37 PM
Rank implies that its in order. As in Shrike would be 1 because he has the highest rank because he has the most trades, where as I would be 8 because I have the 8th most positive trades. Rank doesn't work.

I agree.

shrike4242
05-04-2005, 07:44 PM
Rank implies that its in order. As in Shrike would be 1 because he has the highest rank because he has the most trades, where as I would be 8 because I have the 8th most positive trades. Rank doesn't work.

Yes, I know, I'm the most rank CAG among us. :puke:

Rig
05-04-2005, 07:44 PM
CAG Trading Feedback

I like this as well...

shrike4242
05-04-2005, 07:45 PM
I agree.

Well, rather than reversing things, let's let the rank suggestion drop.

shrike4242
05-04-2005, 07:46 PM
Well, rather than reversing things, let's let the rank suggestion drop.

CAG Trading Feedback

Seconded.

Trakan
05-04-2005, 09:07 PM
Cheap Ass Trader Rating

EDIT: I think "Cheap Ass" needs to be in there (whatever name is actually chosen) in some form or another. I like how that sounds better.

smalien1
05-04-2005, 09:12 PM
Just make them points and call them "Cheapys" or "Cheap Ass Points" or "Cheap Asses"

zionoverfire
05-04-2005, 09:24 PM
How about a trading rank? That changes from 0 trades to n00bie at 5, regular at 10, veteran at 20 and shrike at 200.

swetooth9
05-04-2005, 09:29 PM
and shrike at 200.

:lol: :applause:

and i like CAG Trading Feedback

shrike4242
05-04-2005, 10:16 PM
How about a trading rank? That changes from 0 trades to n00bie at 5, regular at 10, veteran at 20 and shrike at 200.

I prefer 200 to be "Shrike, Supreme Trading Overlord". :D

Renegade_Zero
05-05-2005, 12:59 AM
I should go do a trade I don't want it to be 0... I like CAG trading feedback

jclast
05-05-2005, 03:57 AM
Just make them points and call them "Cheapys" or "Cheap Ass Points" or "Cheap Asses"

Heh, I like Cheap Ass Points.

CAGs for CAPs! Trade those games!

CheapyD
05-05-2005, 11:21 AM
Again, I apologize for the delay...I know this sounds familiar, but we should be ready sometime today.

Rig
05-05-2005, 01:56 PM
Again, I apologize for the delay...I know this sounds familiar, but we should be ready sometime today.

Good deal. I have quite a few feedback I need to leave...