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CheapyD
04-05-2005, 12:18 AM
Online Gamer Stabbed for Selling Cyber-Saber

Wed Mar 30,10:23 AM ET Oddly Enough - Reuters



BEIJING (Reuters) - A Shanghai online game player stabbed to death a competitor who sold his cyber-sword, the China Daily said Wednesday, creating a dilemma in China where no law exists for the ownership of virtual weapons.



Qiu Chengwei, 41, stabbed competitor Zhu Caoyuan repeatedly in the chest after he was told Zhu had sold his "dragon saber," used in the popular online game, "Legend of Mir 3," the newspaper said a Shanghai court was told Tuesday.


"Legend of Mir 3" features heroes and villains, sorcerers and warriors, many of whom wield enormous swords.


Qiu and a friend jointly won their weapon last February, and lent it to Zhu who then sold it for 7,200 yuan (US$870), the newspaper said.


Qui went to the police to report the "theft" but was told the weapon was not real property protected by law.


"Zhu promised to hand over the cash but an angry Qui lost patience and attacked Zhu at his home, stabbing him in the left chest with great force and killing him," the court was told.


The newspaper did not specify the charge against Qiu but said he had given himself up to police and already pleaded guilty to "intentional injury."


No verdict has been announced.


More and more online gamers were seeking justice through the courts over stolen weapons and credits, the newspaper said.


"The armor and swords in games should be deemed as private property as players have to spend money and time for them," Wang Zongyu, an associate law professor at Beijing's Renmin University of China, was quoted as saying.


But other experts are calling for caution. "The 'assets' of one player could mean nothing to others as they are by nature just data created by game providers," a lawyer for a Shanghai-based Internet game company was quoted as saying.

DT778
04-05-2005, 12:19 AM
this has already been posted i think

Mr Unoriginal
04-05-2005, 12:20 AM
this has already been posted i think

I vote we have a new rule. Unless you can post the link, STFU.

CheapyD
04-05-2005, 12:20 AM
Really? I searched for "Shanghai"

GenDV138
04-05-2005, 12:22 AM
Yeah, Admiral Ackbar posted it March 30, though he only posted a link, not a full text post like Cheapy did above.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45898

bignick
04-05-2005, 12:27 AM
I vote we have a new rule. Unless you can post the link, STFU.

I agree.
BTW, what happened to CAG-BOT

DT778
04-05-2005, 12:27 AM
I vote we have a new rule. Unless you can post the link, STFU.

If you have a picture of yourself as an avatar you need to shut the fuck up.

Good job finding the link Gen, I was looking for it.

Mr Unoriginal
04-05-2005, 12:28 AM
If you have a picture of yourself as an avatar you need to shut the fuck up.

Good job finding the link Gen for finding the link, I was looking for it.

Go back to pre school little boy.

Scorch
04-05-2005, 12:33 AM
I'd never tell Cheapy something's already been posted.

lordxixor101
04-05-2005, 11:01 AM
I find it halarious that it's gotten to the point here that even the founder of the site has to take crap that things might already be posted. It always irked me that I'd post something, and the first post would already be, it's already posted.

But, on topic, in some ways, I think this validates gaming. You can make some big money on selling online items. Hey, if someone's willing to pay, there will be a market. This wouldn't be shocking if someone lent something to their buddy, and their buddy sold it. So, this doesn't shock me at all. I think crimes like this are going to happen more often, unless laws are passed to protect cyber property.

judyjudyjudy
04-05-2005, 11:13 AM
I find it halarious that it's gotten to the point here that even the founder of the site has to take crap that things might already be posted. It always irked me that I'd post something, and the first post would already be, it's already posted.
What's wrong with that, as long as it's politely mentioned? It gets kind of annoying when there's parallel discussions going on more than one thread and the forum has a bunch of the same threads. I do think it's important to post a link to the original thread so you can discuss it there. If the original thread is really old, it's not like the new thread is being locked or anything, so you can still post there.

On topic, it makes sense to have law regarding virtual property. We have laws for intellectual property, so virtual property doesn't really seem unreasonable.

False Hope
04-07-2005, 06:00 PM
This is new news to me and probably a few other people. I guess I missed the original.

On-topic, however... It seems rather sad to me that people would have to even bring up protecting your pixelated belongings. People who spend so much time trying to aquire those things (that could potentially lead up to events such as this) have to realize what can potentially happen when they aquire it. I mean sure, I can see someone getting pretty ticked about such a thing, but even some of the most trustworthy people can be swayed by triple figures for an item in a game.

XboxMaster
04-07-2005, 06:06 PM
Damn, that's brutal. Although, I don't know what I would've done if I was that pissed and had a knife.

RELmajor03
04-07-2005, 11:37 PM
Does it bother anyone else that no one started discussing the actual topic of the thread until 12 posts down?

js1
04-08-2005, 01:57 AM
that's crazy! I'd be pissed if that happened to me but , enough to kill...I don't think so...