...Well, crap.

[Wshakspear]

WMD's averted (http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/4/17/112546.shtml)

They got'em, gonna use'em. Shit.

Reading things like this make me hug my girlfriend a little more when she gets home

[SneakyPenguin]

well fuc|<. i needed to use the word. i hate this race, it should cease to exist.

[jmcc]

Hmm. This story hasn't shown up on any of the bigger (i.e. reputable) news channels. Makes me think this isn't something to get worked up over.

[WhipSmartBanky]

well fuc|<. i needed to use the word. i hate this race, it should cease to exist.

Don't worry - at the rate we're going, it won't be long.

[x0thedeadzone0x]

I swear to god, if they find an excuse to connect this with Iraq and osama bin laden yet again, i'll shoot myself.. no, seriously. :bs: :spam: :headache: ](*,)

oh wow, there are new smileys.

[Wshakspear]

:^o :bs: :puke: :beer: :imwithst: Wow, your right.

Anyways, it already is a link to osama... Its al queda, his little bitch squad, that was reported to have the wmd.

[x0thedeadzone0x]

ugh.. i find the third one with the guy vomiting all over the other guy to be slightly disturbing, especially whil eating or drinking folks... wow.
i just noticed now, heh :lol:
and to think, the smiley queen slow on the uptake of arrivals of new smileys.
although i've been using significantly less.. it's quite shocking actually.
perhaps i've grown out of my smiley phase...
but beware. occasionally i let my smiley reign run rampid. and then you'll see.

[Wshakspear]

To lighten the mood, ALL the smilies (i know someones going to get pissed about this....but at the moment i just dont care...):
:D :) :( :o :shock: :? 8) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :twisted: :roll: :wink: :!: :?: :idea: :arrow: :| :mrgreen: =D> #-o =P~ :^o [-X [-o< 8-[ [-( :-k ](*,) O:) =; :-& :-({|= :-$ :-s \:D/ :-# :bs: :puke: :puke: :bouncy: :booty: :hot: :cold: :baby: :bomb: :robot: :dunce: :forbidde: :grouphug: :headache: :oldman: :argue: :boxing: :censored: :ziplip: :twoguns: :joystick: :error: :fridge: :notworth: :spam: :wave: :rofl: :imwithst: :newbie: :beer:

[Scrubking]

We haven't seen anything yet.

Just wait till a nuke goes off in some city brought in by terrorists through the open mexican border.

Maybe then we will stop kissing Fox's ass and realize that cheap labor isn't worth it.

[x0thedeadzone0x]

great! that many?? now i can express my words in almost all smileys.
:imwithst:
:spam:
:rofl:
\:D/
coca-cooooolaaaa :beer:


...see what i'm getting at?

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edit: scrubking.. i'm with stupid was meant for wshakspears smiley escapade.. ahh the confusion! :roll: :dunce:

[SneakyPenguin]

coca-cooooolaaaa :beer:


you do realize that isnt coke, right?

if i were president, i wold be dictator. i would adopt a policy of isolationism, and disband stupid things like congress which gets in the way of order. people would still have their rights, its just sole power now restsinthe best, which is why ill never become presidente.

[Wshakspear]

We haven't seen anything yet.

Just wait till a nuke goes off in some city brought in by terrorists through the open mexican border.

Maybe then we will stop kissing Fox's ass and realize that cheap labor isn't worth it.


maybe its cause im sleepy and think about sex, but what do you mean about Fox?

[Scrubking]

We haven't seen anything yet.

Just wait till a nuke goes off in some city brought in by terrorists through the open mexican border.

Maybe then we will stop kissing Fox's ass and realize that cheap labor isn't worth it.


maybe its cause im sleepy and think about sex, but what do you mean about Fox?

The mexican president Vicenete Fox.

[Wshakspear]

...ahh. back on track. thanks.

[BlueStorm781]

coca-cooooolaaaa :beer:


you do realize that isnt coke, right?

if i were president, i wold be dictator. i would adopt a policy of isolationism, and disband stupid things like congress which gets in the way of order. people would still have their rights, its just sole power now restsinthe best, which is why ill never become presidente.

I believe up to the Pearl Harbor bombing we were pretty isolationist. When that attack occured, we had to become more aware of who would be a threat to us and where they were from. Then as we became more aware of what was going on in other countries, we started to become more "passionate" in trying to resolve other peoples problems. As we've seen in recent years, some groups don't really like that, either because we help the wrong people (in their minds), or they're affraid that our culture will influence and corrupt their culture.

But I think it's time that we should go back and isolate ourselves a little and stop trying to please every other contry. It's funny, so many other countries hate us, yet when the proverbial shit hits the fan, it's "help us, we need money". After we do help, we're still kicked in the ass. We really need to start putting our own country's problems ahead of the other nations. We have starving families too! We have the homeless too! We have disasters as well! Does any other country come to OUR aid. Hardly, they just give us their "condoloances".

Perhaps I should stop now before I may offend someone.

[WhipSmartBanky]

coca-cooooolaaaa :beer:


you do realize that isnt coke, right?

if i were president, i wold be dictator. i would adopt a policy of isolationism, and disband stupid things like congress which gets in the way of order. people would still have their rights, its just sole power now restsinthe best, which is why ill never become presidente.

I believe up to the Pearl Harbor bombing we were pretty isolationist. When that attack occured, we had to become more aware of who would be a threat to us and where they were from. Then as we became more aware of what was going on in other countries, we started to become more "passionate" in trying to resolve other peoples problems. As we've seen in recent years, some groups don't really like that, either because we help the wrong people (in their minds), or they're affraid that our culture will influence and corrupt their culture.

But I think it's time that we should go back and isolate ourselves a little and stop trying to please every other contry. It's funny, so many other countries hate us, yet when the proverbial shit hits the fan, it's "help us, we need money". After we do help, we're still kicked in the ass. We really need to start putting our own country's problems ahead of the other nations. We have starving families too! We have the homeless too! We have disasters as well! Does any other country come to OUR aid. Hardly, they just give us their "condoloances".

Perhaps I should stop now before I may offend someone.

Amen, I absolutely agree...like the old saying, "No good deed goes unpunished."

[SneakyPenguin]

ditto. thats the point i was trying to get across, you just put it in words. we help everyone else, but people need help here. i dont give a flying shit about some craphole country in africa or how its people are starving. does that make me cold, probably. but does that make me right, imo yes. why should we care what happense to them. they fell on bad fortuene, tough thats life. we need to focus inwardly. WSb said it best. we help, then we get screwed. risnse repeat. sometimes i hate this country.

[Wshakspear]

I really dont want to help africa now, considering how much spam i get with them wanting meto send them money...

[Scrubking]

ditto. thats the point i was trying to get across, you just put it in words. we help everyone else, but people need help here. i dont give a flying shit about some craphole country in africa or how its people are starving. does that make me cold, probably. but does that make me right, imo yes. why should we care what happense to them. they fell on bad fortuene, tough thats life. we need to focus inwardly. WSb said it best. we help, then we get screwed. risnse repeat. sometimes i hate this country.

It just shows us how ungrateful and selfish man's nature is.

We go out of our way to help other countries and then they turn against us *cough*France*cough*.

[chosen1s]

ditto. thats the point i was trying to get across, you just put it in words. we help everyone else, but people need help here. i dont give a flying shit about some craphole country in africa or how its people are starving. does that make me cold, probably. but does that make me right, imo yes. why should we care what happense to them. they fell on bad fortuene, tough thats life. we need to focus inwardly. WSb said it best. we help, then we get screwed. risnse repeat. sometimes i hate this country.

I disagree. The right thing is the right thing, and helping others is the right thing. IMO, our problem is that we let others get away with lying about us. French, British, and German media spreads blatant lies about us and we don't hold them accountable (Yes, Britain is a good friend but their media is full of anti-American liars). We take the "high road" and brush them off.

If you don't answer a lie with the truth, the lie becomes the truth in the public's minds. What if nobody stood up with the truth about Nixon when the first accusations about Watergate came out and he said "I'm not a crook." If nobody had stood up with the truth, we would all still believe the lie that no wrongdoing occurred. We're not to blame for helping other countries when they hate us, we're to blame for letting them trash-talk us without response.

[bmulligan]

I believe up to the Pearl Harbor bombing we were pretty isolationist.

No, we weren't. Roosevelt was a ferverent proponent of the war against the Nazis. We sold Brittian arms and shipped them on civillian passenger ships, we even sold them decomissioned battleships. We blockaded the japaneese islands and prevented them from importing food and gasoline. Roosevelt enlisted private envoys to spy on Nazi and japaneese ship movements accross the world, instituting at least 4 different secret intelligence branches without congressional approval. We were far from isolationist or neutral. We may not have been an active participant in the war before Pearl Harbor, but we allied ourselves well before the incident and left the Japaneese with little alternatives than attack for their own survival.

[XboxMaster]

ditto. thats the point i was trying to get across, you just put it in words. we help everyone else, but people need help here. i dont give a flying shit about some craphole country in africa or how its people are starving. does that make me cold, probably. but does that make me right, imo yes. why should we care what happense to them. they fell on bad fortuene, tough thats life. we need to focus inwardly. WSb said it best. we help, then we get screwed. risnse repeat. sometimes i hate this country.

Ditto to you. Why the hell should WE (America) help Africa when Europe is the ones who colonized them. Hell, they were probably talking bad about us when all that civil rights stuff was going on here in the 50s and 60s, while most, if any, of Africa's countries were STILL colonized by Europe.

Oops, I didn't mean to go into that subject so deeply. I meant to say that I support the idea of helping ourselves before others right now. I don't even wanna think of the debt we're in and how much other countries owe us but will never pay us. I think we should just team up with all the stronger countries of the UN and take over all the shitty countries, I'd be all for that.

[RedvsBlue]

I believe up to the Pearl Harbor bombing we were pretty isolationist.

left the Japaneese with little alternatives than attack for their own survival.

Wow, I can't believe you said that.

[dcfox]

I think we should just team up with all the stronger countries of the UN and take over all the shitty countries, I'd be all for that.
Doesn't this go against what you said earlier about helping ourselves before helping others? If you think about it why should we spend more on military conquests of other countries when the money could be spent on domestic programs. And besides if we did take over other countries do you think that will automatically make them better. They will still have the same problems but now we will be personally responsible for their welfare, further taking away resources from those who actually need it. Finally I think people need to realize that the US is not an empire.

[PsyClerk]

No, we weren't. Roosevelt was a ferverent proponent of the war against the Nazis. We sold Brittian arms and shipped them on civillian passenger ships, we even sold them decomissioned battleships. We blockaded the japaneese islands and prevented them from importing food and gasoline. Roosevelt enlisted private envoys to spy on Nazi and japaneese ship movements accross the world, instituting at least 4 different secret intelligence branches without congressional approval. We were far from isolationist or neutral. We may not have been an active participant in the war before Pearl Harbor, but we allied ourselves well before the incident and left the Japaneese with little alternatives than attack for their own survival.

You know, if a president did something that radical today without telling every detail to the American public, they'd want to impeach him and replace him with John Kerry.

[Cracka]

yes bmulligan, described it fairly accurate. We had put an embaro? on japan. Japans economy went to hell, they were low on cash, and they thought that their only option was to attack the U.S.

Roosevelt didnt want to be an isolationist country, but i believe congress did. Roosevelt wantedt he U.S. to join the war before we were attacked at Pearl Harbor, but congress wouldnt let us, and without a good reason, the people would start to turn against Roosevelt. He decided that he would give arms to Britain on a cash and carry basis, meaning they bring the cash and carry what they bought back to their country, so that we would not be attacked, and it would not look like we were in the war taking supplies to Britain.

Once Japan attacked Pearl Harbor we declared war on Japan and Germany declared war on the U.S. which was the worst thing that Hitler could have done. If he would not have declared war on us, we would not have helped France and Britain attack the Germans. But, since he did, the US and our Allies decided that we would take care of Hitler first and then Japan. If Hitler didnt declare war on the U.S. theres no telling how world war II would have gone. But after we defeated the Germans it was time to attack Japan, and one of our generals was saying that we should drop 30 atomic bombs on Japan. That dude was insane and needless to say we didnt listen to him.

I think we should just team up with all the stronger countries of the UN and take over all the shitty countries, I'd be all for that.

Do you even know what the U.N. is? We basically decided that if anybody in the U.N. got attacked, all the other U.N. nations would come to its defense. The whole point of the smaller nations being in the U.N. is because they would like to know that we arent going to attack them, and that they will have help if they get attacked.

[pimp tyranny]

hmm

[Steggy]

Al Qaeda makes me very mad. The fact that we pride ourselves on ending the Al Qaeda rule is ridiculous, because they will always be around.

[bob_the_goon]

Just want to agree with bmulligan and say that anyone who's interested in a fairly unbiased view of history, should check out "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn. He's a professor at Harvard, and Conservatives love to dismiss him as a radical and activist, but his book's not exactly flattering to any polictical party or viewpoint.

[GuilewasNK]

We have starving families too! We have the homeless too!

I tell you what, I am tired of everyone whining about stuff like that. People can usually avoid situations like that. You cannot live with debt on credit cards, living beyond your means, having kids without being financially prepared for it and then expect someone to give you a hand out. Almost EVERY situation like that, a person caused their own downfall. If you lose your $15 dollar an hour job you shouldn't feel its beneath you to except a $8 dollar an hour job. People should save their money instead of wasting it on smoking, drinking, cell phones, cable TV and yes even video games if they can't afford it.

I speak from the situation my family was in when my dad left the military. My mom was horrible with money and we paid the price for it. I remember when we had nothing in the fridge except water. I'd go into greater detail about what we went through but it is rather personal. Either way, you don't wait for the government to pull you out. You get off your ass and do it yourself.

[Scrubking]

We may not have been an active participant in the war before Pearl Harbor, but we allied ourselves well before the incident and left the Japaneese with little alternatives than attack for their own survival.

That statement is so blatantly anti-american it is laughable that you expect anyone to take it seriously. :puke:

We exported oil to japan and it was our right to continue or discontinue, and we chose to stop sending them oil cause of their emperialistic, expansionist ways.

To put it simply they attacked us cause we didn't sell them oil to continue their expansion in Asia.