Forza!

[Scorch]

If you want it to sound like a long way away, it comes out two weeks from this past Tuesday.. if you want it to sound close, it comes out a week from this coming Tuesday. Regardless of however you want to word it, who's going to pick it up? Are we going to have a cheap ass clan/group/club? I watched a GS video preview and they mentioned something about a car club.. let's try to not show off how cheap we are in the car club, though.. no station wagons or anything..

Anyways, who's getting it and who wants to start something?

[H-Town Info]

i'm most likely going to get it. i have played the demo for a good amt of time and it's just plain terrific game.

[CheapyD]

Anyone know how the car customization compares with Midnight Club 3?

[Zer0X1999]

I'll probably pick it up. I held off on buying GT4 since I wanted to see the reviews on it, since I don't want to have two racing games.

[Scorch]

Anyone know how the car customization compares with Midnight Club 3?

I'm interested in this as well. Too bad you can't add all sorts of fancy stuff to the car.. ("Pimp it out").. Was going to pick up MC3, but i'll just wait for a price drop.. did give it a rent though, the level of customization kicked the hell outta NFSU2.

And why do all races have to take place during the day?! The night would look pretty :(

[Monsta Mack]

Gonna wait for IGN and GS have the final say on it, soo many racing games for my XBox already, and if XBox2 comes out this fall I know i won't touch Froza with PGR3 in my hands.

But if Outpost or another site offers it for $35+ free S&H, im sold.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Gonna wait for IGN and GS have the final say on it, soo many racing games for my XBox already, and if XBox2 comes out this fall I know i won't touch Froza with PGR3 in my hands.

But if Outpost or another site offers it for $35+ free S&H, im sold.

I just hope PGR3 feels more like the original and not the asstastic second game. :evil:

I'll get Forza, eventually.

[SteveMcQ]

Is there an official car list out yet? If a TSX and Carrera are in it I'm sold. Doubtful on the latter since it's a Porsche though.

[Ozzkev55]

If you want it to sound like a long way away, it comes out two weeks from this past Tuesday.. if you want it to sound close, it comes out a week from this coming Tuesday. Regardless of however you want to word it, who's going to pick it up? Are we going to have a cheap ass clan/group/club? I watched a GS video preview and they mentioned something about a car club.. let's try to not show off how cheap we are in the car club, though.. no station wagons or anything..

Anyways, who's getting it and who wants to start something?

the ozzman joineth

yeah im getting forza, and i will join the car club

[Kayden]

I don't even really like racing games, but the comercial for this game caught my attention...

[doubledown]

I'm still indecisive on this game.....I may get it through the MS retail site when it come available. The demo was not that impressive

[CheapyD]

Is there an official car list out yet? If a TSX and Carrera are in it I'm sold. Doubtful on the latter since it's a Porsche though.


http://www.xbox.com/en-US/news/20050117/forza.htm
Forza Motorsport Final Car Roster
1967 AC Shelby Cobra
1997 Acura NSX
2001 Acura Integra Type-R
2002 Acura RSX Type-S
2003 Acura 3.2 CL Type S
2004 Acura NSX
2002 Acura #42 Real-Time Racing NSX SC (driven by Peter Cunningham)
2001 Aston Martin V12 Vanquish
2005 Aston Martin DB9 Coupe
2001 Audi 2002 Infineon R8
2004 Audi S4
2004 Audi TT Coupe 3.2 Quattro
2000 Audi S4
2003 Audi RS 6
2002 Audi #1 Champion Audi Racing S4 Competition (driven by Michael Galati)
2003 Audi #1 Champion Audi Racing RS 6 (driven by Michael Galati)
2002 Audi Le Mans #38 Champion AudiR8
2001 Audi Le Mans #4 Johansson Motorsport R8
2004 Audi #8 24h Nürburgring TT-R
2004 Bentley Continental GT
2003 Bentley #7 Team Bentley Speed 8
1997 BMW #43 Team Schnitzer Motorsport GTR
1999 BMW #15 Team BMW Motorsports V12 LMR
2003 BMW #43 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR
2003 BMW #42 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR
1987 Buick Regal GNX
2002 Cadillac #8 Team Cadillac LMP 02
2004 Cadillac CTS-V
2004 Cadillac #16 Team Cadillac (driven by Max Angelelli)
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427 L-88
2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
2005 Chevrolet Corvette C6
2002 Chevrolet Lingenfelter 427 CID Twin Turbo Corvette
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Guldstrand Edition
2004 Chevrolet #73 3R Racing Corvette Z06 (driven by Phil McClure)
2003 Chevrolet #3 Corvette Racing C5-R
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS
2004 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT (Turbo)
2005 Chrysler ME Four-Twelve
1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
2003 Dodge SRT4
1996 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo
1970 Dodge Challenger R/T Hemi
2003 Dodge Viper SRT10
2004 Dodge Viper Competition Coupe
2000 Dodge Hennessey Viper 800TT
2003 Dodge #23 Magellan Financial Viper Competition Coupe (driven by Paul Mumford)
2004 Dodge #22 3R-Racing Viper Competition Coupe (driven by Tommy Archer)
2002 Dodge Nürburgring 24 Hours Viper GTS ACR #1 - FujiFilm
1998 Eagle Talon TSI Turbo
2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello
2004 Ferrari 360 Modena
1964 Ferrari 250 GTO
2003 Enzo Ferrari
1995 Ferrari F50
1993 Ferrari 512 TR
1984 Ferrari GTO
1992 Ferrari F40
1967 Ferrari 330 P4
1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
1998 Ferrari 355 GTS
2005 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
1996 Ferrari #12 Risi Competizione
1998 Ferrari F355 Challenge
2003 Ferrari #88 Veloqx Prodrive Racing 550 Maranello
2004 Ferrari Challenge Stradale
2003 Ford Focus SVT
1966 Ford GT40
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429
2000 Ford Mustang Cobra R
2005 Ford Mustang GT
2005 Ford GT
2004 Ford #10 Tiger Racing Mustang (driven by Carol Hollfelder)
2004 Honda Civic Type-R Hatch (Japan)
2000 Honda Prelude Type SH
1999 Honda Civic Si Coupe
1995 Honda Civic Del Sol VTEC
2004 Honda Accord Coupe EX
2003 Honda S2000
1994 Honda Civic SI
1991 Honda CRX Si-R (Japan)
2004 Honda NSX-R (Japan)
2002 Honda Mugen Integra Type-R (Japan)
2003 Honda JGTC #18 Dome Racing Team NSX
2003 Honda JGTC #8 Autobacs Racing Team Aguri NSX
2004 Honda Mugen Civic Type-R Hatch
2000 Honda Integra Type-R (Japan)
2003 Honda Mugen S2000
1992 Honda NSX-R (Japan)
2003 Honda JGTC #16 Dome Racing Team NSX
2002 Honda Integra Type-R (Japan)
2000 Honda Aerogear Integra Type-R
2000 Honda VIS Racing Integra Type-R
2004 Honda Wings West Civic R J Spec
2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT
2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe
1993 Jaguar XJ220 Road Car
1961 Jaguar S1 E-type 3.8
2002 Koenigsegg CC8S
1974 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale
1992 Lancia Delta Integrale EVO
2002 Lexus SC430
2003 Lexus IS300
2002 Lotus Elise 111S
2002 Lotus Esprit V8
1972 Lotus Elan Sprint
2005 Lotus Exige
2005 Lotus Elise
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo
2000 Mazda Miata MX-5 1.8i Sport
2004 Mazda RX-8
2003 Mazda Protégé MAZDASPEED
2004 Mazda 3 Sport
1995 Mazda RX-7 Turbo
2000 Mazda MX-5 MAZDASPEED
2004 Mazda RX-8 MAZDASPEED
2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R
1995 Mazda AB FlugRX-7
1995 Mazda INGS RX-7
1954 Mercedes 300SL Gullwing Coupe
1998 Mercedes CLK-GTR
2004 Mercedes C32 AMG
2004 Mercedes SLR
2003 Mercedes CLK55 AMG Coupe
2005 Mercedes CL65 AMG
2003 Mercedes-Benz CLK-DTM #3 Team Vodafone
2003 MINI Cooper-S
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR RS
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4
2003 Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS
1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR
1998 Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R
1995 Mitsubishi Mine's CP9A Lancer Evolution VI RS
2000 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII FQ-330
2004 Mitsubishi Sparco Lancer Evolution VIII
2002 Nissan Mine's GT-R (R34)
1972 Nissan 240 ZX
2003 Nissan 350Z Track
1998 Nissan #32 Nissan Motorsports R390 GT1
1994 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo Version R
2004 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE
2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R
2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R34)
1995 Nissan Skyline GT-R
1998 Nissan 240 SX SE
2003 Nissan Skyline V35
1994 Nissan Fairlady Twin Turbo
2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II
2003 Nissan JGTC #3 Hasemi Motorsport Z33 350Z
2003 Nissan Fairlady
2003 Nissan JGTC #12 Team Impul Skyline
1998 Nissan Silvia (S14)
2003 Nissan JGTC #23 NISMO Skyline
1995 Nissan Mine's Skyline R32 GT-R
2002 Nissan Tommy Kaira Skyline GT-R R34
2003 Opel Performance Center #5 Team Phoenix Nürburgring 24 Astra V8
2004 Opel Speedster Turbo
2003 Opel Performance Center #6 Team Phoenix Nüurburgring 24 Astra V8
1999 Pagani Zonda C12
2003 Pagani #17 Carsport America GR
2002 Panoz #10 JML Team Panoz LMP01 EPP
2001 Panoz Esperante GTL
2004 Peugeot 206 Gti 180
2004 Pontiac GTO
1968 Pontiac GTO Hardtop
1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
1986 Porsche 959
2003 Porsche 911 GT3
2003 Porsche Carrera GT
1998 Porsche #26 911 GT1 Le Mans
1956 Porsche 550 A Spyder
1987 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3
1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
1987 Porsche #17 962 C
1995 Porsche 911 GT2
2003 Porsche Boxster S
2003 Porsche 3R-Racing 911 GT3 Cup (driven by Mike Fitzgerald)
2000 Porsche #23 Alex Job Racing 911GT3-RS
2003 Renault Sport Clio V6 RS
2002 Saab 9-3 Viggen
2004 Saleen S7
2000 Saleen Mustang S281
2000 Saleen #2 Konrad Motorsport S7R
2005 SEAT Cupra GT Racer
1999 Shelby Series 1
1968 Shelby Mustang GT-500KR
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi
1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS Coupe
2003 Subaru JGTC #77 Cusco Racing Impreza
1998 Subaru Tommy Kaira Impreza M20b 2002
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi Spec-C (Japan) Forza Edition
1998 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo
2003 Toyota Celica GT-S
1985 Toyota AE86 Sprinter Trueno GT Apex
1995 Toyota MR2 Turbo T-Bar
1999 Toyota #27 GT-ONE TS020
2004 Toyota Camry Solara
1969 Toyota 2000GT
2002 Toyota MR2 Spyder
1992 Toyota Supra Turbo
2004 Toyota Altezza RS200
2003 Toyota Celica 1800 VVT-i
2002 Toyota MR-S
2002 Toyota Tom's Z382 Soarer
2002 Toyota Soarer 430SCV
1995 Toyota Tom's T020 MR2
2002 Toyota Tom's W123 MR-S
2003 Toyota JGTC #36 Team TOMS Supra
2003 Toyota JGTC #1 Toyota Team Le Mans Supra
1998 Toyota AB Flug Supra Turbo S900
2003 Toyota APR Performance Celica GTS
1998 Toyota VeilSide Supra Fortune 03
1998 Toyota VeilSide Supra Fortune 99
1995 Toyota Border MR2 Turbo T-bar
1995 Toyota VIS Racing MR2 Turbo T-Bar
2003 Toyota JGTC # 35 Kraft Supra
2001 TVR Tuscan S
1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
2001 TVR Tuscan R
2004 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
2003 Volkswagen Golf R32
1995 Volkswagen Corrado SLC
2004 Volkswagen New Beetle 1.8T Turbo S
2003 Volkswagen Jetta GLX VR6
2004 Volvo S60 R
2004 Volvo #24 At-Speed Motorsports S60 R (driven by Derek Bell)

[Ozzkev55]

Ozz's Oldies Pics
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1967 AC Shelby Cobra
1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427 L-88
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS
1970 Dodge Challenger R/T Hemi
1964 Ferrari 250 GTO
1967 Ferrari 330 P4
1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
1966 Ford GT40
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429
1961 Jaguar S1 E-type 3.8
1954 Mercedes 300SL Gullwing Coupe
1968 Pontiac GTO Hardtop
1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
1956 Porsche 550 A Spyder
1968 Shelby Mustang GT-500KR
1969 Toyota 2000GT

[integralsmatic]

wow this lists accomadates any car junkie. it even gots the koenig.about dam time it gets some recognition.

[SteveMcQ]

Thanks Cheapy. Too bad, no TSX. There is an '03 Carrera GT though so I think that's close enough. The online seems to be the big thing for this game so I'll likely pick it up. Fry's might have a deal on release.

[Ozzkev55]

Thanks Cheapy. Too bad, no TSX. There is an '03 Carrera GT though so I think that's close enough. The online seems to be the big thing for this game so I'll likely pick it up. Fry's might have a deal on release.
wouldnt you want the mustang stevie?

[SteveMcQ]

Sentimental value, yes, the Mustang would be it, but I got me some new horses in the stable (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48699).

[Ozzkev55]

Sentimental value, yes, the Mustang would be it, but I got me some new horses in the stable (http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48699).

ill get a gto, and you get a mustang, we can recreate bullitt

[ElwoodCuse]

I'm excited, but still wary after the demo. I'll rent first but it could very well turn out to be awesome.

I just hope PGR3 feels more like the original and not the asstastic second game. :evil:

Zuh? PGR2 was light-years ahead of the first game.

[SteveMcQ]

I have no money for a Mustang. How 'bout we pick up Forza and recreate it there? I think I can put together $50. I don't think I can justify an $18000 expense.

[Ozzkev55]

I have no money for a Mustang. How 'bout we pick up Forza and recreate it there? I think I can put together $50. I don't think I can justify an $18000 expense.
i meant in game, i cant afford nor justify that expense, especially when i am an unemployed high school student, but yeah we should recreate that :)

[rafissaying]

i will defenitely be picking up forza....and if you guys want to start a clan or group just let me know

[Matt Young]

I'm shocked that supadupacheap hasn't responded. He had me do the $30 pre-order deal for this game at GR, and he's been practically orgasming over the game for weeks.

I'm not into realistic racing games as much as arcade style ones, but even I may have to rent this after all the good shit I've been hearing about it.

[KaneRobot]

Zuh? PGR2 was light-years ahead of the first game.

This man speaks truth. Online by itself put it ahead of the first, but there was more than that.

[supadupacheap]

I'm shocked that supadupacheap hasn't responded. He had me do the $30 pre-order deal for this game at GR, and he's been practically orgasming over the game for weeks.

I'm not into realistic racing games as much as arcade style ones, but even I may have to rent this after all the good shit I've been hearing about it.

Ahhh, my beloved Forza finally gets some love on CAG. Now, my 2 cents...

First off, the demo is garbage compared to the real thing. Some reviewers have compared the final build to the demo like GT3 and GT2

Second, there is a video on IGN insider you have to see to believe. I cant even describe it other than to say its breathtaking. They have that chystler prototype thing running at night. The way the shadows roll off the car and the speed and accuracy at which they shift is unreal. U N R E A L.

Third, Im not really even THAT into car games and Im buying this the day it comes out. Its that awe inspiring. The last game I paid full retail of $50 for was Madden......... 2003.

Fourth, Im dying to try out the car club aspect. Im in if it gets set up for sure. FYI, Im going Asia so Ill have access to cheap imports. Would love to hook up somebody going the Europe route as there are a few cars there Id like access too. Online will destroy any other game to date.

Fifth, there is NO GAME ANYWHERE that is more accurate and true to life to the tracks than Forza. Real professionals were racing the tracks they race in real life and coming within 3 - 5 seconds of their usual times in R.L. Whoa.
I can also attest to the accuracy because I have a sick obssesion/ fetish with Laguna Seca. It darn near perfect in Forza. The closest game before now was Superbike 2000 (anybody remember that one?) Forza blows it away.

Sixth, Damage damage damage! Fina-freaking-ly. And not all or nothing garbage. Theres scrapes, crumpling, paint rubbing, all that good stuff.

Seventh, pro scan. People will talk about how "great" GT4 is at 1080. Oh yes, its wonderful, just dont look at ANYTHING but the car!!! Ugh. Jaggies here, jaggies there, jaggies everywhere. Bleck.

Eighth, sounds. GT was always too fake for my tastes. Everything was overdone. Whines, scraping, gears, all of it. Forza is more true to life IMO. Less metalic and more gutteral. If youve ever heard a real sports car, it has almost a growl to it. Frightening and exciting at the same time.

Nine, customization. GT got old because it was basically different colors of the same car in many cases. I spent hours buying up skylines that all looked the darn same. Id rather "SDCheap-ify" one and learn all its driving nuances. Oh yeah.

Lastly, because "You are what you race" and I want to race (therefor be) the best. ;)

[supadupacheap]

I may be a bit of a dork here but, why on earth did they leave out the Ferrari 308? I know it wasnt the greatest of Ferraris but its certainly one of the most recognizable. I, and somebody else I know will be quite p.o.ed...

http://www.classictv.info/images/show/magnum/cast.jpg

[SteveMcQ]

I'm just hoping Fry's has a deal on it. Going with the Asian cars myself.

[Ozzkev55]

I may be a bit of a dork here but, why on earth did they leave out the Ferrari 308? I know it wasnt the greatest of Ferraris but its certainly one of the most recognizable. I, and somebody else I know will be quite p.o.ed...

http://www.classictv.info/images/show/magnum/cast.jpg
Hmm...PM Sent

Yes there will be a CAG clan, who heads it is going to be up to us, i say we vote on it

[Scorch]

Lookit what I found

http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/743/743956.html

[Ozzkev55]

Lookit what I found

http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/743/743956.html
indeed, this was hinted at in Allards GDC Keynote speech, though im surprised its not forza 360, check the xbox 360 forum, for more details
or this link
http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=909105732&topic=20347600&page=0

[bombdrop]

counting down the days

cant wait to drive my Koenigsegg :)

[Pure Apathy]

http://movies.teamxbox.com/forza/forza_228_1.wmv

I like this movie, it shows off the car customization feature.

[Ozzkev55]

holy ship
nice find man sick stuff

[Pure Apathy]

holy ship
nice find man sick stuff

I think it looks to be a lot better than NFSU2... I'm not for sure if it'll be better than MC3 since I haven't gotten a chance to play it yet.

[Ozzkev55]

I think it looks to be a lot better than NFSU2... I'm not for sure if it'll be better than MC3 since I haven't gotten a chance to play it yet.
MC3, is not my cup of tea, mostly because i do art work with my cars, especially my Lotus Blossom, but its all preset decals, and 20"s

[swetooth9]

MC3, is not my cup of tea, mostly because i do art work with my cars, especially my Lotus Blossom, but its all preset decals, and 20"s

so are you gonna quit the clan?

[Apossum]

the demo for this game was pretty weak. I know, i know, there's so much more to it then what's on the demo...but just about every aspect of it was horrible. this game and Jade Empire shouldn't have even had demos put out.

[Ozzkev55]

so are you gonna quit the clan?
no no not at all, i love the racing, but im just disapointed about my customization options. I love MC:3, and i would never quit the can

[rafissaying]

wow....that car list is awesome. it has all the cars you need. it has everything that i need to be hooked on this game for months. thanks cheapy for the list

[khc]

I am playing the asia version now, its out in HK. :D

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Zuh? PGR2 was light-years ahead of the first game.This man speaks truth. Online by itself put it ahead of the first, but there was more than that.

I don't give a shit about online play. True the graphics and car selection were improved, but they ruined the most important part of the game: control. PGR has the best feel out of any racing game I've ever played, while PGR2's was horrible.

[jeffreyjrose]

In reply to title question: YES.

[franchise01]

Was going to pick up MC3, but i'll just wait for a price drop.. :(


34.99 plus about 6 bucks shipping at Outpost.... not sure if that is low enough for you or not, Scorch.

Anyhow... I'm in for a Forza club... even though I'll suck. :(

[METH]

Can't wait to get my copy of Forza, and i'm in for the Forza Club.

[Pure Apathy]

First US Forza review.
http://www.etbgaming.com/xbox/revdisplay.asp?reviewid=104&gameid=63

[Ozzkev55]

First US Forza review.
http://www.etbgaming.com/xbox/revdisplay.asp?reviewid=104&gameid=63
actually there are multiple review out( though a couple of these are outside the us)

8.5 out of 10
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/LaunchReview.asp?reviewid=489743
5 out of 5
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/LaunchReview.asp?reviewid=490059
10 out of 10
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/LaunchReview.asp?reviewid=489748
10 out of 10
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/LaunchReview.asp?reviewid=488896
9 out of 10
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/LaunchReview.asp?reviewid=488382

some are really in depth as well, though jericho's find i like the best

[SteveMcQ]

Nice.

[Pure Apathy]

I'm hoping Gamespot, IGN, and Gamespy post their reviews tonight.

[Ozzkev55]

I'm hoping Gamespot, IGN, and Gamespy post their reviews tonight.
Gamespots review is my final deciding factor, since they are my most trusted reviewers, ill post that up the instant it becomes available, though im surprised they dont have a countdown timer for the review like they did for half-life 2

[swetooth9]

Gamespots review is my final deciding factor, since they are my most trusted reviewers, ill post that up the instant it becomes available, though im surprised they dont have a countdown timer for the review like they did for half-life 2

although, it is an anticipated game, forza is definitely not as big has HL 2 was...

[rafissaying]

forza got some nice reviews. even though i preordered it already, those reviews make me want to get it even more.

[Pure Apathy]

Team Xbox review is up

http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/940/Forza-Motorsport/p1/

[SteveMcQ]

Thanks for posting these. I'm hoping Fry's gets 'em in tomorrow and they're on sale.

Holy crap. That was a long read. For an online review that is. Now back to studying....

[KingDox]

any news on DLC ? will there be cars and will any of the cars be free ?

[Pure Apathy]

any news on DLC ? will there be cars and will any of the cars be free ?

Nothing yet, there are already 240 cars in the game. So it might be new tracks, parts, textures, and maybe cars. I think we'll be fine with the 240 though...

[rafissaying]

hopefully after the first 240 cars i hope there will be some DLC because i know that they can pump out at least 100 more cars

[A Happy Panda]

Gamespot review is up
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/driving/forzamotorsport/review.html?q=1&tag=gs_hp_flashtop_story

[mick16]

Team Xbox too:

http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/940/Forza-Motorsport/p1/

[H-Town Info]

9.2 by gamespot. this game possibly is now the benchmark for simulation racing and not the gran tursimo series

[peteyrose]

Kudos to MS! They just can't make a bad racer :)

[H-Town Info]

Kudos to MS! They just can't make a bad racer :)

yep they have made pgr series, rallisport series, and now forza

btw i would like to join the car club for cag (most likely the asia region)

[doubledown]

I wonder when the retail site will get this? ;)

Jade Empire is still TBA on there

[Msia]

9.2 by gamespot. this game possibly is now the benchmark for simulation racing and not the gran tursimo series
Yeah right. Maybe the benchmark for Xbox, but not simulation racing in general.

[Scorch]

Gran Turismo killer! :shock:

Higher than GT4!~!~~!1111

[METH]

Yeah right. Maybe the benchmark for Xbox, but not simulation racing in general.

GT4 = Driving
Forza = Racing

Even after all the bashing i've heard regarding GT4, I still think that they've (Polyphony Digital) putted out a great game.

Forza isn't a GT killer, but it's a strong addition to MS first party games. Also, it's good to see someone step up to compete against GT and does it well on top of it.

This will push the GT series to re-invent their seires (customization, ONLINE and car damage).

Will there be a sticky post for the Forza Club?

[Matt Young]

I don't even like realistic racing games, and you guys are making me want this. *wipes supadupacheap's splooge off*

I'm going to put this in my GameFly GameQ.

[Scorch]

So who's going to be the first CAG'er to grab it and post first impressions? I'll find a way to get it if it's that awesome, otherwise I can wait a bit for a price drop..

[Monsta Mack]

Holy fuck! MS is the bomb! I thought "Why would they bother making another great racer with Burnout 3, RSC2 and PGR2 already out?" but shit. They do it again! The XBox has become probably the best racing console ever now.

Burnout 3 93.7
Forza 93.6 (so far)
PGR2 93.2
Midnight Club 3 88.9 (so far)
Burnout 2 88.4
RSC2 88.9
(All averages from gamerankings.com)

Also can't forget the MotoGP series (THQ's not Namco's) with a 87.5% average (Moto GP2) and rumor has it Moto GP 3 will be out this year for the box.

Too bad MS didn't buy Dice for the RSC rights, I read Dice was still in the middle of that EA buyout, which would be rich if all consoles get a tast of the Ralli world. The only thing the system is missing now is some rich futuristic racer like F-Zero.

Go MS! Go, go MS!

[CheapyD]

I picked up GT4 but grew tired with it fairly quickly, probably because I've played the hell out of the previous GT games.
I think I'll trade it in and get Forza.

[Ozzkev55]

We also need to establish a Slogan, Description, And Flag for the possible Cheapassgamer club. im not getting any copies on the island till tomorrow but ill rush and buy it then, im already making my ideal car list

[peteyrose]

Holy fuck! MS is the bomb! I thought "Why would they bother making another great racer with Burnout 3, RSC2 and PGR2 already out?" but shit. They do it again! The XBox has become probably the best racing console ever now.


Er... because Forza is a sim?

The only thing the system is missing now is some rich futuristic racer like F-Zero.

Quantum Redshift.

[CheapyD]

Has anyone found mention Forza supporting split screen online mulitplayer mode (a la Halo 2)?

[Pure Apathy]

Has anyone found mention Forza supporting split screen online mulitplayer mode (a la Halo 2)?

I read that system link is one person per box, so I assume it'll be the same for online.

[SteveMcQ]

No Forza at Fry's yet. So I got MX vs. ATV to hold me over. I hope they get it by lunch time tomorrow and on sale, too.

[rafissaying]

has anyone tried any other places to pick up forza? i really want to play it.

[Ozzkev55]

has anyone tried any other places to pick up forza? i really want to play it.
best buy, and gamestop doesnt have it till tomorrow either

[ex0]

I have to wait until tomorrow to get this as well :(

[rajchakrabarti]

so anybody pick it up yet ?

[jeffreyjrose]

so anybody pick it up yet ?

Grrrrrrr. No! Gamerush won't be getting it in until tomorrow!

[Ozzkev55]

Ill be picking it up at around 3pm est tomorrow, but i doubt ill be online first time around, remember that your performance as a driver, affects our rank as a clan

[gameprozero]

Racing games are sweet as hell now days.

[Pure Apathy]

IGN review is up

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/609/609884p1.html

[ElwoodCuse]

9.2 by gamespot. this game possibly is now the benchmark for simulation racing and not the gran tursimo series

Gran Turismo 3 got a 9.4, GT4 didn't rate as high because they didn't really change a whole lot. The scores are so close together as to not make them worth comparing, though, it's safe to say they are both great games.

[KaneRobot]

Gran Turismo 3 got a 9.4, GT4 didn't rate as high because they didn't really change a whole lot.

True, although standards when GT3 came out were lower than they are now.

Is it a GT4 "killer?" Nah. But it also does not have to take a backseat to it at all. GT4 has more cars, but looking at the Forza selection, there are some that GT4 doesn't have that I'd much rather use. I guess some people are complaining about Forza not having quite enough tracks (at least by comparison to other racers), hopefully that'll be remedied with downloads eventually. Still, online play is something GT4 doesn't have, and that's a big difference.

It's not worth getting into a nitpicky fight about it though. Just suffice to say Forza is fucking awesome, and if you like racing games you most likely will not be disappointed in the least, especially if you have XBL.

[METH]

True, although standards when GT3 came out were lower than they are now.

Is it a GT4 "killer?" Nah. But it also does not have to take a backseat to it at all. GT4 has more cars, but looking at the Forza selection, there are some that GT4 doesn't have that I'd much rather use. I guess some people are complaining about Forza not having quite enough tracks (at least by comparison to other racers), hopefully that'll be remedied with downloads eventually. Still, online play is something GT4 doesn't have, and that's a big difference.

It's not worth getting into a nitpicky fight about it though. Just suffice to say Forza is fucking awesome, and if you like racing games you most likely will not be disappointed in the least, especially if you have XBL.

GT4 has more cars indeed...

but how many Lancer Evolution do you really need :P

[Pure Apathy]

Hopefully my Wal-Mart will get this game in tomorrow. I want to see some CAG's custom cars. I don't have XBL so posting pics is the only way I can see them.

[Pure Apathy]

GT4 has more cars indeed...

but how many Lancer Evolution do you really need :P

You can never have too many... Lancer Evos are my favorite!

[swetooth9]

You can never have too many... Lancer Evos are my favorite!

*agrees* !

[supadupacheap]

Behold the power of Forza:

Here's a true story: As an import-tuning wannabe, I recently caught the Honda S2000 bug and became curious about the drifting capabilities of this RWD roadster. So what better way to answer my own question by picking up this slick fan-favorite mobile with some extra money I had in my Forza account. Initial test drives of my new S2000 confounded my expectations. Instead of being able to kick out my rear end on a dime, the S2000 understeered itself into the dirt on high-speed corners if I eased up on the throttle when heading into the apex of the turn. Frankly, it was pissing me off and, if Forza couldn't even capture the handling of a popular car like the S2000, I was ready to write off it off as fatally inaccurate.

That is, until I Googled-up "S2000" and "understeer," which lead me to a handful of real-life car reviews that mention the very same handling problem I experienced just hours earlier on my Xbox. I was stunned. Furthermore, I found a suspension tweaking guide (again, for the real-world S2000) that I was able to use and correct my S2000's understeering problem. At that point, I became a true believer. The fact that I was able to surf for tuning FAQs on enthusiast car forums (and ironically, on various Gran Turismo 4 sites) for hints on how to tune my virtual ride absolutely blew my mind....

[Ozzkev55]

The guide i posted in the clan forum is very good for battling steering issues with custom tuning

[SteveMcQ]

Just put a couple of hours into the game and so far so good. I've got 5 cars in my garage so far, winning them through the events. The damage model really makes you aware of your racing lines. The AI so far has been pretty competitive. They're right on your rear bumper if you take a series of corners wrong and in one instance, I was spun out when I was hit in the right rear corner when I was out of the racing line. It wasn't frustrating at all. Not a moment later, I was in the same situation (after taking a few corners too fast) and was able to save the car.

One thing though, the car sounds seem a bit muted especially compared to GT4. I kept turning up the sound, but it's still not to my liking. More impressions later.

[Arkay Firestar]

Is the actual game different than the demo disc thats been out for a while? I'm not 100 percent feeling the demo disc, even though I plan on buying the game for live and for customization. Please respond soon, cuz ima buy it tonight.

[Matt Young]

I don't understand what all the fuss was about. Racing game fans were hailing Forza as the second coming of Christ practically, and, although it is apparently a good game, it does't seem to be distinguishable from the many other Xbox racers which got equal or better scores.

I was considering renting this even though I'm pretty indifferent to realistic racing games, but I just don't see anything interesting. Crashing once and then not being able to win the race is not my idea of fun.

I'm not trying to start an argument or flame war whatsoever. I just don't see what's so special about the game when it doesn't seem to offer anything that other good racing games don't. But maybe I just don't "get it", the same way people don't understand my love for WrestleMania 21. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

[Ozzkev55]

Is the actual game different than the demo disc thats been out for a while? I'm not 100 percent feeling the demo disc, even though I plan on buying the game for live and for customization. Please respond soon, cuz ima buy it tonight.
They say the difference between the demo and the game is like the difference between Grand Turismo 2 and 3

[supadupacheap]

I don't understand what all the fuss was about. Racing game fans were hailing Forza as the second coming of Christ practically, and, although it is apparently a good game, it does't seem to be distinguishable from the many other Xbox racers which got equal or better scores.

I was considering renting this even though I'm pretty indifferent to realistic racing games, but I just don't see anything interesting. Crashing once and then not being able to win the race is not my idea of fun.

I'm not trying to start an argument or flame war whatsoever. I just don't see what's so special about the game when it doesn't seem to offer anything that other good racing games don't. But maybe I just don't "get it", the same way people don't understand my love for WrestleMania 21. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.


Ah, lost misguided youth. How sad. :imwithst: (j/k)

The difference is there is NOTHING like this on the xbox AT ALL. It is a combination of the best of the xbox (MC,PG2,etc) AND a full on Grand Turismo-esq game.

If you want to just bash around corners and fly top speed through every race, this isnt the game for you even with adjustments (try NFSU or Burnout 3) It is a true racing sim. For those hardcore of us out there, this is the realtization of a dream. (a true sim racer) If youre not into that sort of thing, its just another highly rated game thats not your cup of tea (we all have games like that... well, except Shrike. :-P) Forza fills a huge hole in the xbox lineup. For many of us that hole was BIG. For you it wasnt. Simple as that.

*Edit* Another thing Id like to add, the definition of "sim" is often used to give a racing game more "props" in the racing genre. Its very much overused. A true sim is detailed almost to a fault. If a true sim (like Forza) is played by a non-sim type player, it will eat them alive (as it should) Most car enthusiasts love details. Tweaking, modding, tuning, the whole works. Personally, I love how cars *feel* incredibly different whereas in other games they can all meld together physics wise. The other racers on the xbox were good to great. Many even surpass forza in certain aspects (customization, sense of speed,etc) However, Forza is THE Sim racer us xboxers have been waiting for. For many people its sim to a fault (hard, demanding, detailed) but to a lot of us, its heaven in a DVD case.

[supadupacheap]

Is the actual game different than the demo disc thats been out for a while? I'm not 100 percent feeling the demo disc, even though I plan on buying the game for live and for customization. Please respond soon, cuz ima buy it tonight.

I would not base any buying decisions on the demo. If you are unsure, rent. The diff between just the videos of the demo and final versions are night and day. Im sure playing actually shows an even more stark contrast.

[jeffreyjrose]

WOW WOW WOW!!! I just spent a little over an hour with this game... I'd really like to elaborate on how great it is, but I have to go play it some more. ;)

[SteveMcQ]

So who else plays this game? I was on most of the day today and only saw Meth. This game's absolutely phenomenal. I spent most of yesterday playing Career and getting used to the AI, which I'm liking very much. They'll challenge you and get out front if you race sloppy, but run your lines and you'll eventually reel them in.

Online adds so much to this game. Playing the career online with active players and cheering and jeering all about is great. More than any other racer, I really get the sense of everyone in the race feeling they are racing their car. It's not just "pick your car" and race. Some cars look stock and you see it perform and you have to ask what's under the hood. Brings together that sense that you see out there in the real car tuning world.

I was in a race with some WRX STis, Porsches, and Skylines. I was in a Celica and got out front on Tsukuba. And all I could hear was, "Damn, a Celica's out front." It's a virtual car, but it gives you the same sense of joy to hear that sort of awe inspired gawking as a real car would.

The damage model adds so much to races and I can't imagine going back to sim racing without one. Race strategies play out early and all throughout the race. Damage your car to the point of crippling it and yeah, it's frustrating. Win that way and it's exhilirating.

The one problem with that is if you get in a race with bumper car drivers. Some guys use the GT4 mentality and use you to slow down for corners. True, it usually damages their car more (steering, etc. vs. your body work for the most part), but it costs you credits in the end of the race having to fix your car due to their driving ineptitude. I'm kind of hoping there's some sort of system implemented where drivers like these are penalized at the end of the race by having to pay for the damage they cause. Not sure how that can be implemented now, but maybe next time.

For starters, I know this may sound odd, but turn off all assists and the racing line. I feel like the assists hinder you more than they help you and with the start of the game, you really don't have access to the higher-classed cars than can potentially cause you to spin out. Better to learn now than later. Plus you get more credits with each win (with my settings, I get a +60% difficulty bonus). If you do have to keep one though, keep the ABS. The STM and TCS seem far too restrictive with getting the power down and really hampers your times.

[supadupacheap]

Wont ever see this in GT4 ;)


http://tenshin.infinitydev.net/images/forza_0006.jpg

[supadupacheap]

Fanboys Welcome!!!

http://img107.echo.cx/img107/4789/halo14xe.th.jpg (http://img107.echo.cx/my.php?image=halo14xe.jpg)

[SteveMcQ]

How'd you get those graphics on there? I haven't really delved into the paint shop much aside from changing colors of my cars. Anyone get an unusual amount of yellow cars? Most of the prize cars I get are yellow.

And when does that CAG Forza Motor Club come together? I want to see what that involves.

[supadupacheap]

How'd you get those graphics on there? I haven't really delved into the paint shop much aside from changing colors of my cars. Anyone get an unusual amount of yellow cars? Most of the prize cars I get are yellow.



I WISH that was me. Nah, friend of mine found some stuff on the net. Some sick customs out there. The FFX one is like 20 layers. The guy had to custom modify EACH part!!! Theres no importing. He just mods each piece as he needs it. Wow. Just WOW!

And when does that CAG Forza Motor Club come together? I want to see what that involves.

Not sure. I dont have my copy yet so I dont know whats involved. If its not too bad I can run it. (if nobody else called it first)

[SteveMcQ]

Holy crap. That's a lot of customization. Impressive. Most impressive.

[Monsta Mack]

So is this game a ton better then say RSC2 and PGR2 or what? Granted they are different types of racing games, but what holds the most fun/best online experience/best single player experience?

I'm gonna hold out till atleast E3 and see if Froza 2 is indeed on the XBox2 lineup, that way I'll just hold off till next year when a even better version is out.

[TheUnsane1]

Some of the stuff people are making with decals is AMAZING check this out as an example
http://tabwin.com/forza.htm
VADER!?!?!?! I need to get inspired to make some stuff like me and a friend did with Auto Modelista's editor.

[Brak]

I hate cars, I know nothing about cars and I hate racing.

... but I love this damn game. :O

[METH]

I WISH that was me. Nah, friend of mine found some stuff on the net. Some sick customs out there. The FFX one is like 20 layers. The guy had to custom modify EACH part!!! Theres no importing. He just mods each piece as he needs it. Wow. Just WOW!



Not sure. I dont have my copy yet so I dont know whats involved. If its not too bad I can run it. (if nobody else called it first)

When do you think you'll get your copy of the game? I'll start the club if you don't mind... as long as you call me Prez ;)

And i'll make you my b*tch oh sorry i mean recruiter muhahaha

[supadupacheap]

You are welcome to start the club if you wish. Im not dead set on running it. However, dont slack off or I will be your worst nightmare. If you dont believe me, ask anybody in the CAG NFL league. I dont mess around.

Ps. And just in case you thought I was kidding. I wasnt.

[METH]

You are welcome to start the club if you wish. Im not dead set on running it. However, dont slack off or I will be your worst nightmare. If you dont believe me, ask anybody in the CAG NFL league. I dont mess around.

Ps. And just in case you thought I was kidding. I wasnt.

It's all good man... but Ozzkev55 seems to be on the clan case already - i'll let him handle it since im stuck at work all day.

You think we'll get a sticky for the club thread?

[Pure Apathy]

Some of the stuff people are making with decals is AMAZING check this out as an example
http://tabwin.com/forza.htm
VADER!?!?!?! I need to get inspired to make some stuff like me and a friend did with Auto Modelista's editor.

Holy shit! Those designs are crazy!! Skills I say! Skills!

[SEGA128DC]

I'm very surprised Forza Motorsport is getting better review scores than Gran Turismo 4...

[supadupacheap]

It's all good man... but Ozzkev55 seems to be on the clan case already - i'll let him handle it since im stuck at work all day.

You think we'll get a sticky for the club thread?

Ok, I now have Forza (rental) and my Live account again. Im rolling.

And yes, I can try to work on getting a sticky, however, many clubs so far havent been granted it so dont get hopes up.

[el bobo]

How do the cars handle, is it very realistic like GT or a little easier.

[supadupacheap]

How do the cars handle, is it very realistic like GT or a little easier.

Harder. I used to be pretty decent at GT. This thing is kicking my butt, especially the aggressive AI. Sheesh!

[swetooth9]

I hate cars, I know nothing about cars and I hate racing.

... but I love this damn game. :O

is the tuning complicated? i love cars, but no very little about the technical stuff like tuning gear ratios, etc...

[$hady]

I wanna play this but i cant find it in to rent... :cry:

Oh well i rented Doom 3 instead and i'll just play the rest of the way through it this weekend.

[Pure Apathy]

Well here is my first car. I picked it when I started out in Asia. I just won a Lancer though, so I'll have to make sure I pimp it out :)


http://img135.echo.cx/img135/5340/cars0018zz.th.jpg (http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=cars0018zz.jpg)

http://img135.echo.cx/img135/8159/cars0021ea.th.jpg (http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=cars0021ea.jpg)

Post some pics of your rides, I'd like to see them ;)

[SteveMcQ]

is the tuning complicated? i love cars, but no very little about the technical stuff like tuning gear ratios, etc...
It can be. You can get into the details of it all, but the actual buying of upgrades is really quite user-friendly.

There are bars and graphs that show you exactly what your improving from the basic stats of your car (Speed, Acceleration, Braking, Cornering, and Rarity). There's also a real-time indicator of how the parts are going to affect the vehicle's class.

You will have to work on some of the cars to get golds in the races, but not to the extent of raising ride height or stiffening the suspension.

It's as simple as, "I need more speed and better handling." You flip through the available parts and see how the car's ratings are affected.

[el bobo]

I'm not sure that I'd like this game, I'll have to rent it first.

[supadupacheap]

It can be. You can get into the details of it all, but the actual buying of upgrades is really quite user-friendly.

There are bars and graphs that show you exactly what your improving from the basic stats of your car (Speed, Acceleration, Braking, Cornering, and Rarity). There's also a real-time indicator of how the parts are going to affect the vehicle's class.

You will have to work on some of the cars to get golds in the races, but not to the extent of raising ride height or stiffening the suspension.

It's as simple as, "I need more speed and better handling." You flip through the available parts and see how the car's ratings are affected.

:applause: I couldnt have said it better myself.

(and Im shamelessly pluging the motorclub ;) )

[Scorch]

I rented it. Those customizations are sick. I have a feeling i'll end up picking this game up very, very shortly.

[JimmieMac]

I just picked it up at Best Buy, I'm reading the manual and will be playing it shortly.

[swetooth9]

It can be. You can get into the details of it all, but the actual buying of upgrades is really quite user-friendly.

There are bars and graphs that show you exactly what your improving from the basic stats of your car (Speed, Acceleration, Braking, Cornering, and Rarity). There's also a real-time indicator of how the parts are going to affect the vehicle's class.

You will have to work on some of the cars to get golds in the races, but not to the extent of raising ride height or stiffening the suspension.

It's as simple as, "I need more speed and better handling." You flip through the available parts and see how the car's ratings are affected.

good to hear...yea, when i first saw screenshots of this game, i noticed the bars representing the attributes and i was like "Score!!" b/c other simulation games like this and GT4 usually dont have bars that are user-friendly...and i was just wondering how the rest of the tuning was

thanks, i will probably pick this up :)

[swetooth9]

I just picked it up at Best Buy, I'm reading the manual and will be playing it shortly.

any deal on it @ BB?

[JimmieMac]

any deal on it @ BB?

Naw, the only deal was that I had some gift cards laying around for Best Buy with enough credit to get this and Phantom of the Opera for my girlfriend so she has something to watch while I take over the main TV for the rest of the day/night.

[swetooth9]

Naw, the only deal was that I had some gift cards laying around for Best Buy with enough credit to get this and Phantom of the Opera for my girlfriend so she has something to watch while I take over the main TV for the rest of the day/night.

yea, i think i'm gonna pick up this game with some extra walmart credit i have layin around

[rajchakrabarti]

quick question .. does the game have an arcade racing mode... or is it stricly a sim ?

[bugg33]

quick question .. does the game have an arcade racing mode... or is it stricly a sim ?

Yes it does have arcade racing. With online scoreboards too.

[rywateska]

Has anyone unlocked the 2002 Saab Viggen? How hard was it to unlock? Does it fair well? Would I be able to upgrade it and primarily play with it for a majority of the game?

I'm thinking about picking this game up but would like to first ask if...

(I apologize if they've been asked before)

...what the "career" mode is comparable to...I disliked GT3 because it was extremely sim. I loved PGR 2 because of the kudos. Where does Forza stack in between offline and on?

[Ozzkev55]

Has anyone unlocked the 2002 Saab Viggen? How hard was it to unlock? Does it fair well? Would I be able to upgrade it and primarily play with it for a majority of the game?

I'm thinking about picking this game up but would like to first ask if...

(I apologize if they've been asked before)

...what the "career" mode is comparable to...I disliked GT3 because it was extremely sim. I loved PGR 2 because of the kudos. Where does Forza stack in between offline and on?
the game makes it so that you must have a vareity of cars, youd probably only be able to use your saab for a couple of races, as it wont be allowe in races such as the American Muscle, Hatchback, and All-Wheel Races

[rywateska]

But it is a hatchback...

I understand that I wouldn't be able to use it in class specific races but online though? Have you unlocked it. And more importantly, is it shifted to GT3 or PGR2?


Sorry, I've got a hard-on for the car for various reasons: http://img40.echo.cx/img40/4898/dsc018185qh.th.jpg (http://img40.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc018185qh.jpg) ;)

[strayfoxx]

But it is a hatchback...

I understand that I wouldn't be able to use it in class specific races but online though? Have you unlocked it. And more importantly, is it shifted to GT3 or PGR2?


Sorry, I've got a hard-on for the car for various reasons: http://img40.echo.cx/img40/4898/dsc018185qh.th.jpg (http://img40.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc018185qh.jpg) ;)

I've got a hard-on for your lawn :)

[Ozzkev55]

But it is a hatchback...

I understand that I wouldn't be able to use it in class specific races but online though? Have you unlocked it. And more importantly, is it shifted to GT3 or PGR2?


Sorry, I've got a hard-on for the car for various reasons: http://img40.echo.cx/img40/4898/dsc018185qh.th.jpg (http://img40.echo.cx/my.php?image=dsc018185qh.jpg) ;)
online is usually class specific, not really general, and your car upgraded will definetly blow your mind.

Also to add is that a fully upgraded Saab will usually be out of its original class, and wont be able to compete with other cars that start out in that specific class.

as for shifted, im not really understanding what shifted means, but i will say this game is more like GT3, though its more fun to drive.

and as for the car, nice :)

[Arkay Firestar]

I just got my game. Wow, unbelievable. I actually like it more than GT3/4, although, I'm going to have to eventually play without the race line, which will make the game MUCH harder for a noob like me. Still, graphically, aurally, control-wise...its awesome.

So, do the prize cars look the same for everyone, or do they come with random paint jobs and stuff? Just curious if anyone knows.

This game rocks.

[mmn]

I just got this game yesterday and I'm enjoying it so far. I unlocked "Tom's Toyota" super duper car thing and its already worth well over $110,000 in Europe.

I'm not normally into sims like this, but this game doesn't seem as sim like as Gran Turismo. It seems more like a mix of Project Gotham with Gran Turismo. I think the best part of the game is the fact that you are constantly racing in different types of cars, so it doesn't become repetitive at all.

And the fact that it plays your custom music all the time, even through loading screens, is a nice bonus.

[CheapyD]

Yeah, this game is pretty sweet. The online play is excellent.
I wish the car customization options were more like Midnight Club 3, but I guess you can't have it all.

I'm trading in GT4 asap.

[Arkay Firestar]

Cheapy, I'm sure you mean parts-wise, but has ANY game EVER had as deep a decal/paint customization system as this one? It blows my mind the stuff you can do. The cars look tremendous after you pour hours into them...frickin awesome.

[CheapyD]

The cars look tremendous after you pour hours into them...frickin awesome. I know...but I'm not that talented...I like easy.

[mmn]

The cars look tremendous after you pour hours into them...frickin awesome.

Most people don't have the time nor patience to put hours into doing their own custom graphics.

I agree with Cheapy, more MC3-ish graphics would've been nice. But that's a minor complaint about a great game.

[CheapyD]

I plan to be playing online around 5:30pm EST. Anyone gonna be around?

[el bobo]

I will have to pick this up this weekend if I can find it for $40.

[Mr. Anderson]

Damn, this game sounds pretty hot.

[VanillaGorilla]

Damn, this game sounds pretty hot.
Oh, it is hot. The dynamic green line thing (I forget it's real name) is perfect for casual racing game fans like myself. Now if only the custom decals weren't such a pain....

[Scorch]

I love PGR2, I love Burnout 3, I love Midnight Club 3.. I hate this game. I hate it. I absolutely loathe it. Why? Mainly because I suck at it. I can't even do the first track without going into the dirt or hitting another car. What someone said was true, "If you hit another car, forget about it". Fucking game.

[bil4l]

I actually suck at PGR2 and don't really care for it. This game however is awesome and easy for casual gamers like myself.

[Maizrim]

I love PGR2, I love Burnout 3, I love Midnight Club 3.. I hate this game. I hate it. I absolutely loathe it. Why? Mainly because I suck at it. I can't even do the first track without going into the dirt or hitting another car. What someone said was true, "If you hit another car, forget about it". Fucking game.

You're right - no riding the rails to get around corners in this game.

Brake, brake and brake some more!

I'm probably using the handbrake more than I'm supposed to as well, but it makes for some fun replays to watch later on.

Speaking of replays - the amount of information during the replay is amazing!

Tire pressure, engine levels, etc... wow.

It's hard but fun.

[Scorch]

Yeah. I brake so much that I actually go about 5mph around the corner. It worked for a lap, then a guy decided to floor it and fishtail me.

I may have personal beef with the gameplay, but don't get me wrong.. the customization is amazing and the game is beautiful.

[supadupacheap]

I love PGR2, I love Burnout 3, I love Midnight Club 3.. I hate this game. I hate it. I absolutely loathe it. Why? Mainly because I suck at it. I can't even do the first track without going into the dirt or hitting another car. What someone said was true, "If you hit another car, forget about it". Fucking game.

PG2 = Drift City
Burnout 3 = Crash City
MC3 = Semi Realistic but fudges Newton quite often

Forza - R E A L

For some people it does indeed fuck ing suck. For a lot of us though, its heaven sent. I cant tell you how long many of us racers pined for an Xbox "GT". Now we have it and its BETTER than GT.

I will never say Forza is for the casual racer. You can be casual but even with every assist and option turned to your advantage, you can only be so much so. It is very much a game for the dedicated, not the pick up and play-er. I wont be touching another game, even Jade Empire for at least 2 months. Its nuts like me who this game is perfect for. This is not to say a non OC racer couldnt enjoy it, they can. Just dont expect to win everything some pain and do expect to get slaughtered online.

[supadupacheap]

Another thing I will add, we should really make better use of the CAG motorclub. Also, there are settings that will make it much more agreeable to the bulk of us. (I too despise some suicidal maniac taking me out in a corner because he cant drive) Id like to organize a meet this weekend. All interested post in the Motorclub thread. Suggested times welcome.

[Arkay Firestar]

I love PGR2, I love Burnout 3, I love Midnight Club 3.. I hate this game. I hate it. I absolutely loathe it. Why? Mainly because I suck at it. I can't even do the first track without going into the dirt or hitting another car. What someone said was true, "If you hit another car, forget about it". Fucking game.

Do you use the racing lines? I recommend using the line, if only for the first time you race a track...until you memorize the track, its going to be hard. It tells you exactly when and how much to slow down.

With my TT, even when I was sliding, I wasn't out of control. And yes, when you get bumped, you can lose control. But on default settings (with the exception of damage being set one level higher to "simulation") I've done 5 races and come in 1st in all 5. So far, the game is amazing for me.

Use the racing line.

[Scorch]

I've used the racing line.

[CDOG]

I just picked it up at Best Buy, I'm reading the manual and will be playing it shortly.

how much did you get it for?

[Maizrim]

how much did you get it for?

I think the GameRush deal (Trade 2, Get any new game for $29.99, plus credit) is still the way to go.

I traded in NBA Street Vol 3 ($30) and Cabela's Dangerous Hunts ($8) to buy Forza, and still had an extra $5 to go towards a pre-owned Lone Gunmen DVD set.

[greyzieoriental]

i hate sim games but this is a great game, i have to admit it, at first i was sucking, then i realize would i go into a turn at 70 mph in real life? then i started driving like i would in real life and now i get 1st and 2nd most the time, i rented this game but when it hits 20$ in a year or so i'm definitely getting it

this game is much better than GT3 since i havent played 4 yet, mostly cuz the xbox controller is the best for driving games, this game is great 9 of out 10, first racing sim i've enjoyed in a long time, and no damn liscense exams

[Transformah]

Anyone have hints on the class B and C races? I can't seem to keep a car in those classes that is competitive. I tend to supe my cars up WAY out of the lowest classes.

[CheapyD]

Forza is my new Crack.
In case you were wondering, Crack was my old Crack

[doubledown]

Looks like the retail site will have it in July....I can wait.

[Matt Young]

I sent Lego Star Wars back to GameFly, and I have Forza ranked #1 in my GameQ. I have a feeling I'll end up hating the gameplay if it's that hard and realistic, but I owe it to myself to give the game a shot. Besides, as an artist and an obsessive compulsive detail freak, I should enjoy the customization. Those pics of the FFX car, Nintendo and Zelda cars, etc. are very inspiring.

[METH]

Anyone have hints on the class B and C races? I can't seem to keep a car in those classes that is competitive. I tend to supe my cars up WAY out of the lowest classes.

Dude i have the same problem... seems like classes B and C requires fine tuning of your car...

To anyone who passed those classes yet - can you tell us what car you used?

thanks,

[Ozzkev55]

Dude i have the same problem... seems like classes B and C requires fine tuning of your car...

To anyone who passed those classes yet - can you tell us what car you used?

thanks,
I have five S2 cars if thats what you mean, my bentley, my miata, my golf, my integra, my other miata. I dont know what your asking in regards to, but i seem to kill the competition, by at least 40 seconds

[METH]

I have five S2 cars if thats what you mean, my bentley, my miata, my golf, my integra, my other miata. I dont know what your asking in regards to, but i seem to kill the competition, by at least 40 seconds

I was referring to the B and C classes in the restrictions races.

[supadupacheap]

Dude i have the same problem... seems like classes B and C requires fine tuning of your car...

To anyone who passed those classes yet - can you tell us what car you used?

thanks,

Skill :lol:

[supadupacheap]

Ok ok, that joke was too funny it had to get its own post. Now to the serious answer.

C class is a bear. I would say of all the classes, making a C1 is by far the hardest. Soooo many of the C cars become B's with barely any upgrades. All you can do is mess around until you find a combo that works.

B I felt was ok compared to C. Guess its YMMV due to the car. The trick is to find a car suited to the tracks (turns = high ACC, straights = speed) or tune the one you like for them.

The restricted versions require learning and practicing the track alot. Also, look at the top cars on the grid. Those are the "best" you seek. (the top is usually what you WIN, the rest can usually be bought)

[SteveMcQ]

Already passed the C and B cups with golds in the Championship races. I'll post what cars I used, but for the C, I think it was the Aerogear Integra. I've hit kind of a wall though trying to clear to level 35. Just doing a few endurance races to save up money in case I have to buy better cars to compete with.

[METH]

Skill :lol:

Thanks... :P
i have to admit that i was kinda expecting that one ...haha

[JimmieMac]

I've hit kind of a wall though trying to clear to level 35.

As I struggle for my 15 I think to myself, "I hate Philbin and all his racing skill."

[Jaket]

As I struggle for my 15 I think to myself, "I hate Philbin and all his racing skill."

haha between jebus and philbin, we never hit 1st

[zewone]

I just payed for the game, will be here in 5-10 days.

Prepare to get your ass handed to you. :D

[JimmieMac]

I just payed for the game, will be here in 5-10 days.

Prepare to get your ass handed to you. :D


There are no low riders, nor are there any riding lawn mowers, I'm afraid you'll be with the rest of the Obi Wan Jabronies, at the back of the line, wishin' you were in first.















bitch.

[swetooth9]

^^^

exactly.

i should be gettin either in a trade or this weekend

[zewone]

There are no low riders, nor are there any riding lawn mowers, I'm afraid you'll be with the rest of the Obi Wan Jabronies, at the back of the line, wishin' you were in first.















bitch.

Fuck you bitch, this ain't no Halo 2 were you can ride on my coattails. You got to fend for your self and papa plays to win.

[METH]

Is it just me or we don't get to see other people's designs (decals-customize paint-body kits) when racing on xbox live?

I thought this was suppose to be a part of the game...It was a brillant idea.

[JebusMcLucifer]

Is it just me or we don't get to see other people's designs (decals-customize paint-body kits) when racing on xbox live?



You do get to see their customizations online.

[SteveMcQ]

I haven't seen any of you with custom decals/paint schemes yet.

[Robobandit]

The host has to wait for the customizations to load, otherwise they won't show up. So if you've been having impatient hosts, that could explain why.

[METH]

The host has to wait for the customizations to load, otherwise they won't show up. So if you've been having impatient hosts, that could explain why.

Thanks, for the info,

I'm glad to hear that, i was kinda disapointed if this feature didn't make it to the game.

[Ozzkev55]

damnit, i hope ill get to play forza soon, ive been temporarily cut off from it, and the last week has been forza free, but ill be on soon.

by the way anyone here get a top 100 score, i know MSBphilin did, but anyone else, feel free to brag

[SteveMcQ]

by the way anyone here get a top 100 score, i know MSBphilin did, but anyone else, feel free to brag
I think I broke into the top 50 on some track in some race. Or it could just be my imagination. That fucking Corvette race to win the Lingenfelter is kicking my ass. Any suggestions?

[sabin23]

I will have to pick this up this weekend if I can find it for $40.

On Tuesday, I got it for around $30 at BB... PM Fry's $34.99 ad and got the 10% difference too.

[mmn]

by the way anyone here get a top 100 score, i know MSBphilin did, but anyone else, feel free to brag

I got #666 on one of the first Mustang races.

Heh.

[Matt Young]

Is anyone planning on creating a custom CAGmobile? Then again, they don't have station wagons in the game, I'm guessing.

[Ozzkev55]

Is anyone planning on creating a custom CAGmobile? Then again, they don't have station wagons in the game, I'm guessing.
Ill make one up tomorrow, it will be cag worthy to say the least

[The VGM]

I've heard people say this game is so realistic that its no fun. Is this true?

[Ozzkev55]

I've heard people say this game is so realistic that its no fun. Is this true?
no not at all, plenty of fun, i can garuntee you enjoyment out of this, it doesnt feel like a training sim. at all

[mmn]

I've heard people say this game is so realistic that its no fun. Is this true?

I think you're confusing it with Gran Turismo.

[HeadRusch]

I definately thought that Gran Turismo 3 was basically no fun. The Rally Races were kinda sorta fun, but as somone who doesn't want to spend hours tweaking his car to shave that .004 second off my total time, I lost patience with the game. While I apprecaite the ability to add turbos and better shocks and brakes, there reaches a point (Camber Angles and ride height, for example) where I just lose interest.

Given that I'm more of a PGR kinda guy and less of a "Racing SIM" kinda guy, which of these two titles is more appropriate?

Like I said I have owned GT3 since it came out...put about 20 hours into it, and eventually grew bored.


here's an important question: I know that playing GT3 from BEHIND the car was next to impossible (your car always blocked the road ahead). Can you play GT4 or Forza from the behind-the-car view and still race decently?

GT3's angle was so low behind the car I spent ever race looking at the same two analog gauges...bleh!

[Maizrim]

here's an important question: I know that playing GT3 from BEHIND the car was next to impossible (your car always blocked the road ahead). Can you play GT4 or Forza from the behind-the-car view and still race decently?

GT3's angle was so low behind the car I spent ever race looking at the same two analog gauges...bleh!

There are two behind the car views - the higher of the two works great and is the one I use the most.

[HeadRusch]

We're talkin Forza here, right? not GT4...I imagine GT4 still has the same awful too-low-behind-the-car view..?

[METH]

I've heard people say this game is so realistic that its no fun. Is this true?

Please don't listen to Kevin Perrera on G4 ;)

[The VGM]

Please don't listen to Kevin Perrera on G4 ;)

I don't watch G4..... The only time I might is for the E3 coverage.

GT3 was fun.....because I had an Infinite money cheat. GT4 I rented and after letting it sit for 3-5 days, I put it in, did an A level licence test, couldn't pull a braking turn because the turning was so out of whack (for a game), and then I took it back.

I'll rent Forza and give it a try. Thanks guys.

[supadupacheap]

Given that I'm more of a PGR kinda guy and less of a "Racing SIM" kinda guy, which of these two titles is more appropriate?


Not to sound jerkish but... neither. Forza and GT4 are both trying to accomplish the same thing, offer a realistic driving simulation. If your not into that sort of thing, neither will keep your long term interest.Look at it this way, if you hate carbonation, whether coke or pepsi is better really doesnt matter. Same thing here.

If I were you, Id go get MClub Dub Edition. You ll be happier long term I think.

[supadupacheap]

Is anyone planning on creating a custom CAGmobile? Then again, they don't have station wagons in the game, I'm guessing.

I actually had that idea but so little trading has gone on I abandoned it. It would be pretty badass if somebody with some skill (meaning NOT me) did something decent and CAG-centric. Then we could pass it amongst ourselves until we have a whole fleet of them. Then we could run them all at once. Thatd be cool

As far as the model, I suggest something in either the D or B classes. Anything higher is rediculous and C class leaves much to be desired.

[Matt Young]

Supa, did your copy arrive yet? I'm guessing "yes" since you haven't posted for alittle while...

[supadupacheap]

Supa, did your copy arrive yet? I'm guessing "yes" since you haven't posted for alittle while...

Haha. How dare you insinuate I would ignore my CAG bretherin when my copy of Forza arrives. Youre damn right of course, but I still can be insulted. :-P

And no, not yet. ;-)

[supadupacheap]

Is anyone planning on creating a custom CAGmobile? Then again, they don't have station wagons in the game, I'm guessing.

Who are you trying to fool? We all know you want a big ol 80s van with a waterbed in the back and a "bitchin' mural" on the side. :lol:

[SteveMcQ]

I can give the CAG mobile a try. I need a break from Career racing anyway. Any suggestions for specific cars and graphics? The only one I've really put much into is a 350Z with a fireball/re-entry effect. It's not great, but I like it.

Are all races limited to only winning the prize car only once or are there any races that let you win the prize car again? I just need a way to earn some money so I can buy a few cars to paint.

And anyone suggest any events that give good money on fairly short simple tracks? I actually don't mind the Endurance C class race (the one that's on NY Circuit Short), but it takes nearly half an hour to do it. Worth nearly 200,000 Credits though with the car and difficulty bonus.

[SteveMcQ]

!!!!Lingenfelter Corvette race is kicking my ass (well, I'm coming in second in all of 'em). Anyone have a good car or setup? I saved up money by running a whole bunch of the endurance races to upgrade a Z06 and it's no good. The Lingenfelter cuts through the corners far too well. Are the AI cars running with STM and TCS? I have them all off, but there's no way that thing sticks to the road as it does. And turning them back on messes me up too much with the throttle response and everything. I just want to clear the Pro races before I move further on.

[Ozzkev55]

!!!!Lingenfelter Corvette race is kicking my ass (well, I'm coming in second in all of 'em). Anyone have a good car or setup? I saved up money by running a whole bunch of the endurance races to upgrade a Z06 and it's no good. The Lingenfelter cuts through the corners far too well. Are the AI cars running with STM and TCS? I have them all off, but there's no way that thing sticks to the road as it does. And turning them back on messes me up too much with the throttle response and everything. I just want to clear the Pro races before I move further on.
download the record time setup, and completely pimp out the car that is used for the top time

[supadupacheap]

download the record time setup, and completely pimp out the car that is used for the top time

I would highly suggest against that unless you are able to break down his settings to your own driving. A lot of the leaders either

A) Have very unusually driving styles so their setups are quite odd.

B) Cheat like hell so their setups are worthless.

Personally, Id just tune tune tune until you are able to keep up. DONT turn on STM or TCM if you dont need them.

Keep in mind, just because its in the pro area doesnt mean its a pro race. There are many Pro races that I destroy yet many amateurs that give me a better run for my money.

[Ozzkev55]

I would highly suggest against that unless you are able to break down his settings to your own driving. A lot of the leaders either

A) Have very unusually driving styles so their setups are quite odd.

B) Cheat like hell so their setups are worthless.

Personally, Id just tune tune tune until you are able to keep up. DONT turn on STM or TCM if you dont need them.

Keep in mind, just because its in the pro area doesnt mean its a pro race. There are many Pro races that I destroy yet many amateurs that give me a better run for my money.
Interesting...Thanks alot supa :)

[Scorch]

God.. what has this site done to me..

Cheapy, I loathe you! After my anti-Forza rant, what do I do? That's right, I pick it up with store credit..

Damn. Oh well. I hope I get better (both in the game and from this game sickness!).

[Robobandit]

I caved in to the pressure on IGN boards.. I love the game, but I'm not all that great at it. For reference, the GT 4 demo was enough to turn me off of that game completely.. and I generally don't even like racing games.. but there's something about this one that I like.. probably the custom soundtracks even in the menus :D

[supadupacheap]

Welcome to the fold. And no, its not just the custom soundtracks that sucked you in. ;-)

[supadupacheap]

God.. what has this site done to me..

Cheapy, I loathe you! After my anti-Forza rant, what do I do? That's right, I pick it up with store credit..

Damn. Oh well. I hope I get better (both in the game and from this game sickness!).

I would like some of the blame for this. Ive been soapboxing this game more than anybody and I think Im gonna start dropping some "I told you so s"

[SteveMcQ]

When do you usually play supa? Haven't caught you online yet. We've had some pretty good races in.

Anyway, could you guys list some recognizable paint schemes for cars? I'm trying to come up with a list of car paint schemes to recreate. Starting off with something simple, but I'd like to make my way up to whatever you can come up with.

I only have two customized cars so far. One was Herbie and the other a 350Z that I call "Fireball". Wanted it to look like a spacecraft re-entering orbit.

I just need some ideas.

[Ozzkev55]

When do you usually play supa? Haven't caught you online yet. We've had some pretty good races in.

Anyway, could you guys list some recognizable paint schemes for cars? I'm trying to come up with a list of car paint schemes to recreate. Starting off with something simple, but I'd like to make my way up to whatever you can come up with.

I only have two customized cars so far. One was Herbie and the other a 350Z that I call "Fireball". Wanted it to look like a spacecraft re-entering orbit.

I just need some ideas.
try for something orginal, and artlike

[SteveMcQ]

I'll get to that sometime. That CAG mobile needs work. I saw a Buick Regal in there that seems perfect for CAGs, but I can't bear to put so much time into such a crappy looking car.

[HeadRusch]

Theres a Buick Regal? A T-Type or a Grand National!?? Cuz I can't imagine taking a stock V6 Buick Regal around a track for any length of time :D

(Having Owned One...<<SHUDDER>>)

[kill3r7]

I love this game. I like it better than GT4.

[supadupacheap]

All I gotta say is it better be a CHEAP ASS CAR. There is no way it should be anything even close to expensive.

And a Buick Regal? Oh dear lord no.

My suggestions:
Fun to drive - It shouldnt handle like a boat or else our races will get old fast.
Sporty - It doesnt have to be super looking but I dont want an ugly car either
AWD or FFWD - AWD is the easiest to drive for most but the selection of sub 30K AWD didnt look promising. FFWD being the next easiest, I think we should look there.
NO DAMN CRX - Im tired tired tired of those mother fuck ers


Id also like to add I think region shouldnt matter. Pick the car that works best for everybody, not the fanboy favorites. Im liking the RSX for the following reasons.

Lots of design space (although the sunroof kills the roof part :-()

I find it quite an enjoyable drive.

Cheap.

FFWD so easy to learn.

Useful in career (it can go far if you want to with it)

And this is a personal opinion, a fleet of them would look pretty badass vs. a fleet of many of the other offerings.

Anyway, my 2cents, take from it whatever you will. Not me doing all the design work so its not my place to start making demands.

Mike

[supadupacheap]

As far as ideas, all I can suggest is we follow the CAG color scheme. Black and green. I actually think its a damn find combination and works well in game. (I liked it)

[supadupacheap]

When do you usually play supa? Haven't caught you online yet. We've had some pretty good races in.

Yeah, last few days have been odd for me. I broke my foot (ok, toe :oops: ) and while you think this would mean MORE Forza, its actually been the opposite. The pain is killer at times and sleep is a chore (Im a toss and turner and seem to bang my foot which instantly wakes me up) So, Ive kinda zombied through the week and I keep off live since its really embarrassing the way Im driving.

I should sleep ok tonight and plan on being on a lot tomorrow. I saw some of the clan is getting out of striking distance for me and I just cant stand for that, broken bones or not. :lol:

[Ozzkev55]

As far as ideas, all I can suggest is we follow the CAG color scheme. Black and green. I actually think its a damn find combination and works well in game. (I liked it)
i made a cag car, its a green car, black hood, clan emblem on front, CAG letters on back, checkered sides. ill show yous guys after i get back from "HGTTG"

[Arkay Firestar]

I've FINALLY weened myself off the racing line, 20 or so races later. Its a good thing too...this game's physics are so spot on that you can really acquire a FEEL for the cars and tracks, as opposed to being overly depended on aids.

Good times. I love this game. A lot.

[swetooth9]

finally bought it :)

[Ozzkev55]

finally bought it :)
Great more tough competition

[SteveMcQ]

Made an RSX CAG car. B-Class so maybe you guys will see it when you hop online.

They really need to have letters. Hopefully that can be something downloadable.

Just spent nearly two hours on a car I call, "You're roast." You'll have to get out front and look back in a race to see what that's all about.

[supadupacheap]

I love realism... dont you? ;-)

http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39292&postcount=1

[Arkay Firestar]

I love realism... dont you? ;-)

http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39292&postcount=1

Wow...I love this game...their attention to detail is mindblowing.

[Ozzkev55]

I love realism... dont you? ;-)

http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39292&postcount=1
Yes i do, i love realism, we should plan a CAG car meetup, to show off our CAGmobiles, mine is a real winner, but i want to see what philin can dish up

[SteveMcQ]

Yes i do, i love realism, we should plan a CAG car meetup, to show off our CAGmobiles, mine is a real winner, but i want to see what philin can dish up
Right now, it's nothing special. I gotta work on the lettering which is proving to be much harder given the bottom layer I have laid out. I'm gonna work on it some more this afternoon.

[Arkay Firestar]

I've started a very simply CAG car I plan on adding to as time goes on. I'm happy with how the "CAG" turned out:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/Arkay/cagcar2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/Arkay/cagcar1.jpg

[Mr. Anderson]

That's so ganster. Your my hero.

[SteveMcQ]

Worked on a different CAG car. Here's the "Forum Post" Audi.

Right rear (http://img162.echo.cx/img162/1679/forzapostrr6hb.jpg)
Left rear (http://img162.echo.cx/img162/4532/forzapostlr7tz.jpg)
Side panel (http://img162.echo.cx/img162/613/forzapostls4lp.jpg)

The text is off on the CC logo, I know. I'm just terrible with the letters, especially on a logo so small.

[supadupacheap]

I've started a very simply CAG car I plan on adding to as time goes on. I'm happy with how the "CAG" turned out:

:applause: :applause: :applause:

But why oh why an NSX instead of an RSX. Like I really needed another car to have to learn how to drive well right now. :lol:

I must say the car is striking. I would certainly be proud to own it. Im not too crazy about the half rings under the CAG logo but its personal taste Im sure (as I hate the Rockets logo that does that) The CAG logo itself is top shelf and MUST be in the final design (or Ill boot ya out the club :-P)

*Edit* Ok, maybe the rings arent so bad but they are so large they distract from the incredibly excellent CAG logo. Maybe thin them out or do an overlap of the roof color to slim line them. I dunno.

A few other thoughts (feel free to ignore them as I have no talent so my artistic critiques are mostly BS :lol: )

You might consider doing something more with the front. Seems an ocean of green there. Dont go ape with it (I love how you have a clean design so far) but maybe a little something just to break up all that green.

Love the coloring. WAY better than my black (mostly) idea.

The color sweep from the spoiler was an excellent touch as well.

Is that tinted glass? May consider full black on it just because we have quite a few ugly CAGers and they can use that as a distraction :-P

All in all, most excellent. Dont like the car choice but Im biased against the NSX as all hell. (since I fear most of you monkies wont be able to keep yours on the road and off my ass :bomb: Haha.)

Again, :applause:
I look forward to aquiring one soon. :D

Mike

[danny-o]

I was just in a race. Single Lap on test oval. I won and got like 500,000 credits. I dont know how the hell it happened but after a few races with these guys I have over 3 mil creds and went from level 31 to 37 in minutes. It was good racing too. I also made a kickass paint job for my A1 vette which I will post later.

[danny-o]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/panzerfour/cv2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/panzerfour/mr.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/panzerfour/cv.jpg

[Arkay Firestar]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/panzerfour/cv2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/panzerfour/mr.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/panzerfour/cv.jpg

I love that stars and stripes car dude...seems like the Corvette was the perfect choice for it too. Thumbs up.

Supa, as for my design, yea I wasn't too sure about the rings either, but I was just kinda establishing a general motif. I'll probably get rid of them whenever I decide on how I'll add to the other parts of the car. Probably have "CAG" going the other way on the wing...and maybe a dollar sign on the hood. I also have to ass the "amber" color somewhere along the way. But it has potential. As to why I chose the NSX...well, I haven't bought any cars yet and I'm only level 13 or so, so I only have the cars I've won, and a few modifications later, its my best car, so I figured I might as well.

Still, the second I get my Aston Martin DB6 or my Bently, I'll consider pimping those :D

[swetooth9]

I love that stars and stripes car dude...seems like the Corvette was the perfect choice for it too. Thumbs up.

Supa, as for my design, yea I wasn't too sure about the rings either, but I was just kinda establishing a general motif. I'll probably get rid of them whenever I decide on how I'll add to the other parts of the car. Probably have "CAG" going the other way on the wing...and maybe a dollar sign on the hood. I also have to ass the "amber" color somewhere along the way. But it has potential. As to why I chose the NSX...well, I haven't bought any cars yet and I'm only level 13 or so, so I only have the cars I've won, and a few modifications later, its my best car, so I figured I might as well.

Still, the second I get my Aston Martin DB6 or my Bently, I'll consider pimping those :D

yes! i'm not too far behind...i just got it a couple days ago and i'm an 11 :)

[Ozzkev55]

Im a 21, but i havent played it in like two weeks, i dont know why either

[HeadRusch]

You guys are killing me........this game just keeps looking better and better....but I'm just a PGR/Rallisport/NFS loozah that I'm afraid this game (even when practicing proper braking techniques) will just own me.

Tell me, is the difficulty level in this game such that one has to (like in GT3) constantly re-race and re-race and re-race the same tracks over and over and over just to get anywhere and buy a new car?

The whole "I hate GT3" thing in my psyche stems from that....race and race and race to finally buy a new car that gets owned until you race and race and race somemore to upgrade it. Woe is me.

[SteveMcQ]

Nope the beginning levels do a pretty good job of varying the tracks you race on. I never felt like I had to run a race again just to get more money, especially below level 20. More series open up and you just do those to get more money. In fact, the starting levels do a great job of keeping you going with the amount of stuff you open. You always win money and just about every race, you get a new car.

Getting above level 30 though, that's when it gets harder to advance. I've been on level 36 for a while now. It took me quite a few endurance races to clear the levels below that. I think the difference from level 35-36 was something like 300,000 Credits.

Also added some more to the "Forum Post" Audi. It's got a friendly little icon on the hood that you all would recognize. Got a CAG name on the roof that reminds me of Fight Club for some reason.

[swetooth9]

hey stevemcq, are regular members of the CAG club allowed to give club invites to players? if so, can i add you to my FR so that you can invite me into the club? supadupacheap78 hasn't accepted my FR for like 2-3 days now...can you do it real quick?

thanks

[Ozzkev55]

hey stevemcq, are regular members of the CAG club allowed to give club invites to players? if so, can i add you to my FR so that you can invite me into the club? supadupacheap78 hasn't accepted my FR for like 2-3 days now...can you do it real quick?

thanks
Only Recruiters, and Owners can send invites, There are no recruiters...i think...and supa is the only owner

[swetooth9]

Only Recruiters, and Owners can send invites, There are no recruiters...i think...and supa is the only owner

that sucks...supa, should really make some of the active members -> recuriters

:(

[SteveMcQ]

I don't think I can. I don't know where supa's been. He broke a toe or something and might still be recovering, but hopefully he sends you an invite. I haven't seen anyone on the past two nights. I'll try to see if I can though so go ahead and send me that FR. GT: MSBphilin

What he said.

Supa...I wouldn't mind being a recruiter just so we can sign people in. I'm on quite a bit in this game.

[Matt Young]

Supa's been posting and sending me PMs. He's around, but I'm not sure about Xbox Live since I don't know what his new Gamertag is.

EDIT: And I see that he just posted in this thread earlier today, so of course you know that already. Never mind.

[swetooth9]

oh ok, i didnt know that supa was out hurt..well, hope he get's better :)

[Pure Apathy]

Check it,

http://crystal2136.free.fr/JONATHAN/xbox/wheelie.mpg

[Ozzkev55]

Check it,

http://crystal2136.free.fr/JONATHAN/xbox/wheelie.mpg
Interesting, Ill give it a try

[Matt Young]

I received Forza from GameFly today. I'm excited about the customization, but I hope I can get through a race without bashing my own head in with the controller. I suck at realistic racing games.

[Ozzkev55]

I received Forza from GameFly today. I'm excited about the customization, but I hope I can get through a race without bashing my own head in with the controller. I suck at realistic racing games.
the guidline makes it so much easier than the frustrating GT4, its going to be a breeze

[Arkay Firestar]

Yea, and then when you turn off the line for the first time...its such a feeling of accomplishment.

[Matt Young]

I'm not going to be able to play for a couple hours, but if I can get comfortable with the controls, I'll probably hop onto Live later tonight with it. I at least want to get to the point where I can compete against some of you guys before I have to send the game back, which will be the end of the month at the latest.

Arkay, good to see you're actively posting again.

[supadupacheap]

hey stevemcq, are regular members of the CAG club allowed to give club invites to players? if so, can i add you to my FR so that you can invite me into the club? supadupacheap78 hasn't accepted my FR for like 2-3 days now...can you do it real quick?

thanks

I got no PMs,emails, or anything from you or anybody telling me of the troubles. Plus, Ive been on at least twice each of those days in question except yesterday (cable went out and world went to hell in a handbasket also) So I was remiss Sunday. but only to a point.

Just because I dont play much lately doesnt mean I flake out on my duties. I check at least once but usually more each and every day. (usually an early morning and a mid to late evening) If anybody ever has a problem, theres a whole slew of ways to contact me in the OP. And Im usually very quick in responding.

[supadupacheap]

I was just in a race. Single Lap on test oval. I won and got like 500,000 credits. I dont know how the hell it happened but after a few races with these guys I have over 3 mil creds and went from level 31 to 37 in minutes. It was good racing too. I also made a kickass paint job for my A1 vette which I will post later.

You were in a glitch room. The host sets up a long race (75 laps) Race starts, host drops out, changes laps to 1, game doesnt reset the prize money.

You get 75 lap money for a 1 lap race.

[Ozzkev55]

I got no PMs,emails, or anything from you telling me of the troubles. Plus, Ive been on at least twice each of those days in question except yesterday (cable went out and world went to hell in a handbasket also)

Just because I dont play much lately doesnt mean I flake out on my duties. I check at least once but usually more each and every day. If anybody ever has a problem, theres a whole slew of ways to contact me in the OP.
No prob bob, your doing a great job, its just me ad philin figure that if you make us recruiters for the clan, we can take a bit of work of your back, when the shit hits the proverbial fan. youve been doing a great job, so keep up the great work :)

[supadupacheap]

No prob bob, your doing a great job, its just me ad philin figure that if you make us recruiters for the clan, we can take a bit of work of your back, when the shit hits the proverbial fan. youve been doing a great job, so keep up the great work :)

Id make each and every one of you a recruiter if such a thing existed. AFAIK it doesnt but if indeed it does, lead me to the promised land!

I still get on twice a day, I have AIM,MSN,EMAIL,PMs, everything but a Batsignal for people to use to get a hold of me. Dont be shy to contact me if theres a problem as problem solving is my biggest duty.

P.S. Ive got a boatload of Club invites just sitting out there unaccepted FYI, some quite old. If you asked for one and didnt get it, doublecheck as it may be there you just missed it. When I get on tonight Ill resend all current outstanding ones and see if that fixes the issue.

[supadupacheap]

I love that stars and stripes car dude...seems like the Corvette was the perfect choice for it too. Thumbs up.

Supa, as for my design, yea I wasn't too sure about the rings either, but I was just kinda establishing a general motif. I'll probably get rid of them whenever I decide on how I'll add to the other parts of the car. Probably have "CAG" going the other way on the wing...and maybe a dollar sign on the hood. I also have to ass the "amber" color somewhere along the way. But it has potential. As to why I chose the NSX...well, I haven't bought any cars yet and I'm only level 13 or so, so I only have the cars I've won, and a few modifications later, its my best car, so I figured I might as well.


I was more making a joke than anything else. The NSX is a fine car and your reasoning makes all the sense in the world. Im just painfully aware of how poorly a lot of our clubmates drive when they have a car with any sort of power. I feel like Im going to be removing a lot of NSX grills from my bumper after each and every race. :lol:

The rings work, I just think they are too big and steal attention from the kickass CAG logo.
Maybe a thin out or even an overlaping semi-fade would help refocus ones attention.

Still, the second I get my Aston Martin DB6 or my Bently, I'll consider pimping those :DI think its a level unlock as its not listed on any prize list. Probably level 15 or 20. Since Im in europe, I win Asian cars so I dont know.

[supadupacheap]

Supa's been posting and sending me PMs. He's around, but I'm not sure about Xbox Live since I don't know what his new Gamertag is.

EDIT: And I see that he just posted in this thread earlier today, so of course you know that already. Never mind.

GT = Supadupacheap78