View Full Version : New (er) Top Loading NES's??
Staind204
04-24-2005, 04:41 PM
Well I have been out of the NES market for a year or so now but I was looking on ebay for prices on a top loading nintendo. I'd like to get another one, I should have never sold mine. What are all these different looking NES's up there and when did they come out? Are they any different than the original?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=8187114938&rd=1
Anyone know?
dcfox
04-24-2005, 04:44 PM
Get it from here instead. Its cheaper and the site is reputable http://www.estarland.com/NintendoNES.cat..product.22535.html
Staind204
04-24-2005, 04:47 PM
Well my main question was what is the difference between these and the regular top loader I'm use to seeing? (Besides the looks of course)
Kayden
04-24-2005, 04:50 PM
Well my main question was what is the difference between these and the regular top loader I'm use to seeing? (Besides the looks of course)
If my brain still works... The top loader has a much easier time reading games as it gets older because it doesn't have that moving tray that fucks up and wont hold the game in the right possition.
Staind204
04-24-2005, 04:53 PM
No, I mean what is the difference between the regular top loading nintendo (the one made by nintendo) like this one http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/909066b.jpg&imgrefurl=http://users.ign.com/about/BeamNES&h=215&w=220&sz=10&tbnid=zNoiwnpgbBAJ:&tbnh=99&tbnw=101&start=4&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtop%2Bloading%2Bnintendo%26hl%3Den%26 lr%3D%26sa%3DG
and then the newer
http://www.estarland.com/NintendoNES.cat..product.22535.html
Kayden
04-24-2005, 04:58 PM
Oh... a new new one... I'd say... its... newer?
Probably wont corrode as fast like the old ones did.
gamereviewgod
04-24-2005, 05:06 PM
The "new" one is one of those cheap knock-offs you see all over the place like the Power Joy and such. They do play NES games, but they are junk. Video quality is poor and there are numerous technical problems from what I've read.
GizmoGC
04-24-2005, 06:36 PM
I like the Silver one...may pick one up...
urzishra14
04-25-2005, 11:02 AM
is tracking down a NES that hard?
snotnose_colossal
04-25-2005, 01:49 PM
the controller is pretty different too
Captain_Insano16
04-25-2005, 03:15 PM
the controller is pretty different too
Yeah, but this newer version of the neofami will also let you use the original controllers, making it atleast a little better than the original neofami ~ I wish I would have waited!
Negative
04-25-2005, 07:39 PM
Wow, im guessing these things are really going to hurt the original Top Loader's value...
GizmoGC
04-25-2005, 08:41 PM
Wow, im guessing these things are really going to hurt the original Top Loader's value...
They have actually. Now you can pick up an official Top Loader for $65 or so. I actually like the look of these 'new' ones and will be picking one up.
gamereviewgod
04-25-2005, 10:21 PM
is tracking down a NES that hard?
Yeah, Top Loaders are.
b3b0p
04-25-2005, 11:26 PM
Question, is there an adapter to play NES games on Famicon?
Kayden
04-26-2005, 01:58 PM
Question, is there an adapter to play NES games on Famicon?
The NES catridges are wider than the famicom's. I know their is a converter for NES -> Famicom, but it was for the Axe (?)... It was a portable famicom. As for the front loader, I doubt it, because I dont think the hole is big enough. For the top loader, it would probably work if the converter fit suficiently.
urzishra14
04-26-2005, 03:23 PM
there are some that are floating on ebay and i did see a couple "official" toploaders one for about 50 and the other for about 80 ending today... and then a bunch of those new third party systems.. anyone purchased one of the newer ones and is it comparable to the official hardware.
b3b0p
04-26-2005, 04:37 PM
The NES catridges are wider than the famicom's. I know their is a converter for NES -> Famicom, but it was for the Axe (?)... It was a portable famicom. As for the front loader, I doubt it, because I dont think the hole is big enough. For the top loader, it would probably work if the converter fit suficiently.
I know famicon adapter for NES to play famicon on NES, but I want a Famicon to NES convert to play NES on famicon. For both the regular Famicon and Super Famicon.
Edited: Mistyped, sorry.
Kayden
04-26-2005, 04:55 PM
I know about NES to Famicon, but I want a Famicon to NES convert. For both the regular Famicon and Super Famicon.
Then why did you ask:
Question, is there an adapter to play NES games on Famicon?
GizmoGC
04-26-2005, 05:56 PM
Well, I have a Game axe, and its a....nifty device. I did however puchase the newer NES Top loaders. It should arrive sometime next week. When it does, I will post a review up.
Heyricochet
04-26-2005, 09:28 PM
I know about NES to Famicon, but I want a Famicon to NES convert. For both the regular Famicon and Super Famicon.
I'm pretty sure there is for nes, and for snes you just melt the pin things out of the console. If you look at the back of a US cartridge there are 2 slots and then in the console there are two things that go into the slots. If you melt those with a knife, then you're set cause its only a physical lockout.
GizmoGC
04-26-2005, 09:39 PM
To play Famicom on an NES is very easy, just get a copy of Gyromite and open it up. Most have a converter right inside. Now, to play NES games in a Famicom is alot harder...
b3b0p
04-27-2005, 12:06 AM
Then why did you ask:
Sorry, Mistype.
What I meant was an adapter for famicon to play NES games (or super famicon to play super NES games).
Chris
mtxbass1
04-27-2005, 12:13 AM
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44774&highlight=loader
Another discussion on this same topic, about a month ago.
urzishra14
04-27-2005, 11:05 AM
Well, I have a Game axe, and its a....nifty device. I did however puchase the newer NES Top loaders. It should arrive sometime next week. When it does, I will post a review up.
I will be awaiting to decide my purchase.
Snake2715
04-27-2005, 11:35 AM
I have personal played one of these.
The thing is extremely light weight. The controllers are light weight also.
It worked perfectly. The gun worked and multiple games worked with it.
I mean its 20 year old hardway. Think of computers a 20 year old PC isnt worht much now days. So how hard can it be to make the same unit as a nes lighter, smaller, and cost less?
I dont know that I would own one for the sake of it not being official and the nostolgia of the thing.
But if you are looking for a newer unit that plays the games this is a good route. The whole system is a bit bigger than an actual nes cart. Its kind of like the PSTWO of the NES.
See_You_Pee
04-27-2005, 10:22 PM
I have one that loads from the front.
What is that?
Heyricochet
04-28-2005, 01:02 AM
I have one that loads from the front.
What is that?
That would be a front-loader, we're not too technical in the terms of describing NES models :D
Parathod
04-28-2005, 03:21 AM
I have one that loads from the front.
What is that?
The "Toaster" seems to be it's popular nickname.
Kayden
04-28-2005, 04:18 AM
The "Toaster" seems to be it's popular nickname.
I thought that was for the top-loader?
GizmoGC
04-28-2005, 05:08 AM
Toaster = Original, common NES
Top Loader = 2nd NES model, rare, loads cartridges from TOP
Kayden
04-28-2005, 05:46 AM
..... Between the second and third, which one more resembles the first?
Toaster
http://www.mongoos.co.jp/images/s_ntt_zm/Kakudai/Toaster.gif
Top-loader
http://www.particles.org/nes/toploader.jpg
Front-loader
http://hipno.free.fr/nes/nes.jpg
I've never seen a toaster that you put the toast in the front... nor one that had a door on it... I know thats what its called... but it just doesn't make sense.
GizmoGC
04-28-2005, 01:25 PM
Well, now dosn't every cartridge system look like a 'top loader/toaster'? From what Ive alwasy heard, Toaster is the original NES.
GizmoGC
04-28-2005, 01:29 PM
More people are like me as well...
" I'm looking for the original toaster-style NES system." Link (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/printthread.php?t=34535)
"The first is the original-model NES, that gray box that some say resembles a toaster" GameSpy (http://www.gamespy.com/articles/580/580315p1.html)
"NES "toaster" system with AC adapter, RF box, and 1 controller-$30" For sale list, who would sell a Top Loader for $30?l (http://www.atariage.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/www.digitpress.com/eastereggs/t33340.html)
I think the reason they call it the 'toaster' is because it springs back up to release the cartridge, much like a Toaster pops when the toast is ready.
urzishra14
04-28-2005, 01:44 PM
you people care too much about names.. an NES is an NES get over it.. heh
DaemonSaber
04-29-2005, 12:52 AM
The old Nintendo's are called toasters because you put the game in and then push it down. Then, when you're done, you have it pop back up. You know, like a toaster.
Back to the topic, I bought one of the new Neofami's on ebay (for less than it costs at estarland) last saturday and hope it arrives tomorrow. I've heard that they work quite well and have better video than the US top loaders. I've also heard that they have a small sound problem and cannot play Castlevania 3.
Parathod
04-29-2005, 03:21 AM
The old Nintendo's are called toasters because you put the game in and then push it down. Then, when you're done, you have it pop back up. You know, like a toaster.
Back to the topic, I bought one of the new Neofami's on ebay (for less than it costs at estarland) last saturday and hope it arrives tomorrow. I've heard that they work quite well and have better video than the US top loaders. I've also heard that they have a small sound problem and cannot play Castlevania 3.
Exactly. No NES actually looks like a toaster. Anyway, when you get it, post some impressions. I'm pretty interested because both my NES's don't play so well anymore.
GizmoGC
04-30-2005, 04:51 AM
I got my FC Game Console today in the mail. I'll post a small review + pictures tomorrow.
Kayden
04-30-2005, 04:54 AM
Great, I look forward to it. I've been playing some of my NES games and I don't remember the flickering being that bad... This new one says it fixes that problem... but then I think I could fix it too if I just got a new 72 pin connector. I know you can get them on ebay, but can you still get them from Nintendo?
GizmoGC
04-30-2005, 05:03 AM
Well, I just messed around with it for a bit and took some pictures of the box, system, games, everything. Interesting, it DOES play Famicom (Japanese NES for those who don't know) games with a converter. I have a 72-60 pin coverter, meaning, I insert a NES-like cartridge into the system, and then place the Famicom game ontop of it, BACKWARDS. Meaning, I see the BACK of the label, not front. Works like a charm. I'll be editing the pictures, and maybe posting a review tonight/tomorrow.
I am fairly certain that is a "Famiclone."
There are literally thousands of different Famiclone models in the World. Believe it or not, the 8 Bit NES is still the most popular console on Planet Earth.
You can learn more about Famiclones at this site:
http://famiclone.emucamp.com/kingco/kingco.htm
dracula
04-30-2005, 08:21 AM
i have one of the neo fami's. They are a good system, no blinking screen, and they played every single one of my nes games (i have about 150 nes games). the biggest complaint aboutt he 3rd party nes consoles is that they dont play some of the games, but the neo fami plays all the games.
Most of the games look a lot better than on a toploader, since the toploader does not have any A/V out, just an rf switch.
The sound for some of the games sounds a bit off, and the graphics for some of the games that pushed the limits of the nes graphics- the color palatte seems off(i notice this on mario 3 and megaman 2) But for the most part, the games look great(metroid and strider looks awesome, so does pirates).
Definitely a good deal if your nes is busted.
My biggest complaint is that the neofami controller ports do not fit the advantage or NES max. i like the max for metriod and the advantage for zelda 2, but they dont fit.
i should note I own the older style neo fami(made by yobo). I got it for $30+ shipping at www.toysnjoys.com
estarland or baysoft.com may have better deals now.
GizmoGC
04-30-2005, 03:53 PM
The sound for some of the games sounds a bit off, and the graphics for some of the games that pushed the limits of the nes graphics- the color palatte seems off(i notice this on mario 3 and megaman 2)
Funny you should say that...Mario 3 was the first game I popped in, and I thought the same thing.
Bikkebakke
05-13-2005, 09:35 PM
What I REALLY want to know about Neo Fami systems.....
If anyone around here is familiar with the Japanese spectrum of the NES system. Any help would be appreciated.
I have quite a few of those Japanese Famicom games that contain some really sophisticated sound chips that American NES's and most Famiclones don't recognize. One example, Akumajou Densetsu/Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse-J (Konami VRC6).
I've been googling up on this issue. Will the Neo Fami play the music in these games properly?
Saucy Jack
05-14-2005, 12:47 AM
What I REALLY want to know about Neo Fami systems.....
If anyone around here is familiar with the Japanese spectrum of the NES system. Any help would be appreciated.
I have quite a few of those Japanese Famicom games that contain some really sophisticated sound chips that American NES's and most Famiclones don't recognize. One example, Akumajou Densetsu/Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse-J (Konami VRC6).
I've been googling up on this issue. Will the Neo Fami play the music in these games properly?
Interesting question. I already have an NES (just needs a new connector so that I won't have to fudge with the games to make them work), but I noticed these Famiclones clogging up eBay. From what I've read, they play just about every game well, but in some games the sound is a bit odd. If that's true, I could definitely see these clones having trouble with those sound chips.
chrishicks
06-17-2005, 05:13 PM
so is anyone using the new US version of this? it states that no converter is needed and you can use original controllers.
Kayden
06-17-2005, 05:19 PM
Oh yea... hows that top loader working gizmo? Wheres our in-depth review?
klwillis45
06-17-2005, 05:27 PM
This thread got me wondering..Why is bootleg software taboo on this site yet bootleg hardware okay? I'm not judging or anything I'd just like some thoughts.
..... Between the second and third, which one more resembles the first?
Toaster
http://www.mongoos.co.jp/images/s_ntt_zm/Kakudai/Toaster.gif
Top-loader
http://www.particles.org/nes/toploader.jpg
Front-loader
http://hipno.free.fr/nes/nes.jpg
I've never seen a toaster that you put the toast in the front... nor one that had a door on it... I know thats what its called... but it just doesn't make sense.
http://www.saveonmore.com/saveonmore/rewards_catalogue/300size/rewards_156.jpg
Kayden
06-17-2005, 05:33 PM
This thread got me wondering..Why is bootleg software taboo on this site yet bootleg hardware okay? I'm not judging or anything I'd just like some thoughts.
The boot leg software is looked down upon because its generally an illegal copy of a new game that may be of shoddy quality.
I don't think this is bad because 1, Nintendos are made any more and can be hard to find. This is a new version that is designed to last longer and not have flashing issues. Its not really a knock off as it is an unofficial and improved version.
Kayden
06-17-2005, 05:34 PM
http://www.saveonmore.com/saveonmore/rewards_catalogue/300size/rewards_156.jpg
That isn't a toaster. Its a convection oven. They're close, but not the same.
thisiswack
06-17-2005, 05:35 PM
Bootleg hardware isn't an issue because most people considering the neo-fami or whatever have an original system... It just doesn't work any more.
Steggy
06-17-2005, 05:37 PM
That isn't a toaster. Its a convection oven. They're close, but not the same.
that would actualy be a TOASTER oven...
Kayden
06-17-2005, 05:41 PM
that would actualy be a TOASTER oven...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00064XSS6/103-5082329-3017418?v=glance&vi=reviews
Factory-Reconditioned DeLonghi XU33SRB Alfredo Ultima 6-Slice Toaster Oven
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00064XSSQ/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/104-0019141-7796758
Plumberboy
06-17-2005, 05:47 PM
I'm looking forward to the Generation NEX (http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/). It's a bit more pricey than the other clones but has some nice features like the ability to play Famicom in addition to NES games without an adapter. Also, it somehow incorporates a rumble feature in classic games. It'll be interesting to see how that works. Finally, I think the design of the Gen Nex is more Nintendo'esque. Not sure all that makes it worth twice the price of the other clones, but it will be another option for those looking to play their NES/Famicom library when it releases in September.
http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/
Kayden
06-17-2005, 05:57 PM
Factory-Reconditioned DeLonghi XU33SRB Alfredo Ultima 6-Slice Toaster Oven
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00064XSSQ/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/104-0019141-7796758
I would therefore come to the consensus that both terms are acceptable.
dracula
06-26-2005, 01:28 AM
is nintendo still giving away free pin connectors? last year i saw how someone posted they called up nintendo's hotline and told them their nes had the blinking screen problem and they mailed them a free pin connector.
that is probably the best solution imo. free = good
I have a nes, a neofami, and have a tristar super 8 pending in(plays nes games on a snes)
that reminds me, i can probably sell my neofami and nes now.
Heyricochet
06-26-2005, 01:50 AM
is nintendo still giving away free pin connectors? last year i saw how someone posted they called up nintendo's hotline and told them their nes had the blinking screen problem and they mailed them a free pin connector.
that is probably the best solution imo. free = good
I have a nes, a neofami, and have a tristar super 8 pending in(plays nes games on a snes)
that reminds me, i can probably sell my neofami and nes now.
Dude... duck hunt. No zapper support on the super 8. Thats the reason I didn't buy it from the guy in the trade forums.
The-Bavis
06-27-2005, 01:02 AM
Just buy this instead of some import neo-junk: http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/
secretvampire
06-27-2005, 03:09 PM
Wow...that GenerationNex looks fucking sweet! I love the fact that it accepts the cartridges in the front, it's so much easier to put into a rack when you have tons of old systems like I do.
urzishra14
06-27-2005, 10:10 PM
does anyone actually own a Generation NEX?.. because i'd like to know if its just as good as a official Nintendo/
EDIT: since it doesn't come out until september i guess no one
badboysean
07-15-2005, 05:30 AM
Well, I just messed around with it for a bit and took some pictures of the box, system, games, everything. Interesting, it DOES play Famicom (Japanese NES for those who don't know) games with a converter. I have a 72-60 pin coverter, meaning, I insert a NES-like cartridge into the system, and then place the Famicom game ontop of it, BACKWARDS. Meaning, I see the BACK of the label, not front. Works like a charm. I'll be editing the pictures, and maybe posting a review tonight/tomorrow.
Wheres that review Giz? I ordered mine early this week and am curious about the SM3 issues.
adrianchan56
07-15-2005, 05:55 PM
All this talk about the top-loader, converters, and etc. Can't we just petition Nintendo to re-release a revised NES that looks the same as the old white-red-black but internally improved?
ThePlatinumStag
07-18-2005, 11:54 PM
They'd release it at some rediculous cost in order to cover the design and manufacturing costs - since I can't imagine that demand would be that great.
All this talk about the top-loader, converters, and etc. Can't we just petition Nintendo to re-release a revised NES that looks the same as the old white-red-black but internally improved?