View Full Version : Revolution to be First 3D Console???
javeryh
04-27-2005, 05:11 PM
Wow. I really don't know what else to say. If this is true then games as we know it might never be the same...
http://cube.ign.com/articles/607/607437p1.html
DennisDFugly
04-27-2005, 05:13 PM
3D sucks!
WhipSmartBanky
04-27-2005, 05:29 PM
This stinks of Virtual Boy all over again...
zewone
04-27-2005, 05:30 PM
Nintendo is fucking stupid if this is true.
evilmax17
04-27-2005, 05:32 PM
Ugh, you're all nay-saying idiots.
javeryh
04-27-2005, 05:33 PM
3D sucks!
DDF, is that you?
Zer0X1999
04-27-2005, 05:33 PM
This stinks of Virtual Boy all over again...
Here's to hoping that the "Revolutionary" feature is something else. Nintendo would be foolish to repeat what they did with the Virtual Boy.
javeryh
04-27-2005, 06:06 PM
I don't see why this wouldn't be cool as hell if implemented properly. It's not like the graphics will be in 3 layers and all red (I hope). Imagine playing Resident Evil and a zombie reaches out for you and appears to get really close or a FPS where the bullets really seem like they are flying towards you... I think it is a potentially great idea and if Nintendo wants to explore it so be it. I'll still have my PS3 and X360 to play more traditional games...
CoffeeEdge
04-27-2005, 06:09 PM
Volumetric imaging is going to be one of the biggest breakthroughs in technology, especially entertainment, in years.
RAMSTORIA
04-27-2005, 06:09 PM
i dont believe anything anymore, im just going to wait until e3, its not that far away and all will be known then
SpottedNigel
04-27-2005, 06:13 PM
Considering the next wave of big budget movies will be done this way, i think its Nintendo actually jumping ahead of everyone else.Considering normal games are able to be made and played on the system, there are really no drawbacks. Powerful system for graphics, Nintendo titles, still able to use 3rd party support...nope, not seeing a problem.
ryanbph
04-27-2005, 06:18 PM
I agree if put out properly with game support it will be great, but nintendo isn't known for the FPS, and they have a history of putting out these great idea's that do not get supported. I also thought that sony had recently registered patents for similiar technology
Quillion
04-27-2005, 06:18 PM
Considering the next wave of big budget movies will be done this way, i think its Nintendo actually jumping ahead of everyone else.Considering normal games are able to be made and played on the system, there are really no drawbacks. Powerful system for graphics, Nintendo titles, still able to use 3rd party support...nope, not seeing a problem.
Agreed. As it plays on a standard TV or Computer Monitor, Nintendo isn't limiting themselves in any way. If it will play all third party system generic titles, and have First Party exclusives in true 3-D, volumetric imaging that is, why no do it?
I'm just as excited to see a gyroscope in the controller, the idea of a touchscreen also would be incredible if implemented properly.
evilmax17
04-27-2005, 06:19 PM
I don't see why this wouldn't be cool as hell if implemented properly. It's not like the graphics will be in 3 layers and all red (I hope). Imagine playing Resident Evil and a zombie reaches out for you and appears to get really close or a FPS where the bullets really seem like they are flying towards you... I think it is a potentially great idea and if Nintendo wants to explore it so be it. I'll still have my PS3 and X360 to play more traditional games...
Everybody wants to be all cool and denounce any non-mainstream idea that Nintendo tries, saying "Ooooo look here we go again, VIRTUAL BOY THE SEQUEL!!!!!!!!" But they don't know what the hell they're talking about at all.
The VB wasn't a bad idea, it just wasn't executed properly.
If Nintendo does it right (and they very well could), it would indeed be Revolutionary. I would be damn impressed, and once I got my breath back, I would go out and pre-order one. We all saw futuristic depictions of virtual reality games and holograms, and anybody who didn't think it was a cool idea is either lame or a liar.
And really, people just love to chastize Nintendo for trying something different. They went with the mainstream for the Gamecube, and last I checked, they were in last place. I love my Gamecube, but I don't think it's a bad thing for Nintendo to get creative.
And again, using the VB as the universal doomed console is old and innacurate. Whenever you use it, you don't look creative or funny. You're only the 1097409730429374th person to try and make the analogy, and it's not any more clever than it was the 1097409730429373rd time.
If you want mainstream, you have 2 choices. That's enough. I can't wait to see how different my 3rd option is.
SteveMcQ
04-27-2005, 06:22 PM
Yes (?)
Tromack
04-27-2005, 06:25 PM
I think the gyroscopic controller idea is inspired. I mean, how many times have you seen someone turn the controller, as if it will make them turn more. Now, think about if it really could do that.
SpottedNigel
04-27-2005, 06:30 PM
I think the gyroscopic controller idea is inspired. I mean, how many times have you seen someone turn the controller, as if it will make them turn more. Now, think about if it really could do that.
Now when my mom jumps to make mario jump, it'll do something! :)
Apossum
04-27-2005, 06:34 PM
interesting. I just need to know exactly how this will work before I bash it to hell. Just kidding, I'm all for someone trying something different. this sounds like it could kick ass...but what are the possibilities of how this could be implemented? I can only think of a couple lame ones :P
1. 3-d glasses.
2. some kind of projection from the system? (that would be crazy if the system had a built in projector.)
3. Virtual helmets!!! ok no
4. ummmmmm..............3-d glasses?
anyone else care to take a stab at it?
gigan54
04-27-2005, 06:38 PM
maybe you'll have to buy a special nintendo room that you can put just about anywhere that will increase the overall gaming experience and will further enhance the revolutions power... or maybe i just need a nap
Tebunker
04-27-2005, 06:39 PM
It would probably use polarized glasses
The only drawback I can see would be for people watching the game without the glasses as the image would appear weird to them.
LucasArts is trying to get this stuff to the movie scene fast and the tech is very cool. So if they can do this right then more power to them
Apossum
04-27-2005, 06:43 PM
all i know is the rev will be mad expensive.
SpottedNigel
04-27-2005, 06:56 PM
all i know is the rev will be mad expensive.
I'd like to hear your reasoning on that.
The-Bavis
04-27-2005, 07:16 PM
Although the VB was a bust, people at the company at the time said that the VB2 in development was really incredible. It never came out, because the first was such a bomb. It's been a while, and they've probably been toying with the techniques ever since. Probably won't be true, though. I'm betting on the goofy controller ideas more than this.
I have read that all of those movie bigwigs getting into the 3D thing are planning on using glasses, so I wouldn't be surprised if this uses the same, if true. I agree that it would be a bummer for those watching and not playing unless the glasses are real cheap.
arsenalgear
04-27-2005, 07:22 PM
Man it would be sweet if they did holograms.
Just putting it out there...also, i would love a Nintendo hoverboard, that's probably on my list right under holograms.
evilmax17
04-27-2005, 07:23 PM
Man it would be sweet if they did holograms.
Just putting it out there...also, i would love a Nintendo hoverboard, that's probably on my list right under holograms.
It's actually quite possible. If you've ever been to Universal Studios, they have a Spiderman ride that does them really well.
Man, that's such a great ride.
bookishboy
04-27-2005, 07:24 PM
I was SO hoping that Microsoft would do something like this. 3-D gameplay could be revolutionary in a number of ways if:
-The system had dual audio-video outputs.
-The dual outputs could be used for stereoscopic glasses; one input for each eye (video). The glasses would not be mandatory to play the game, but EVERY game for the system would have to include functionality for the glasses. (Kind of how all the XboxLive games have to include support for the headset)
-Dual outputs could also be used to run 2 television sets off of a single system. Two-player games without split-screen! 1 system, 2 people, 2 controllers, 2 tv sets. It'd be LAN without the LAN.
If Nintendo seriously does something like stereoscopic display, I would seriously probably have to buy it. Shoot, and I was planning on ignoring the new Nintendo system.
Mookyjooky
04-27-2005, 07:26 PM
Jesus, god knows they need something to set them apart....at least before Microsoft buys them.
CaseyRyback
04-27-2005, 07:32 PM
I'd like to hear your reasoning on that.
I would as well, since Nintendo knows its key demographic cannot afford a really expensive console
eldad9
04-27-2005, 07:36 PM
Nintendo is fucking stupid if this is true.
We know you're right because the company you started makes much more money than Nintendo.
These rumors....are so exciting! I mean, I think Wshakspear summed it up nicely above. If the Revolution can play standard games, is wireless, and can do this 3D stuff, what's not to love? I just hope they don't leave us hanging at E3 this year...
Tromack
04-27-2005, 07:39 PM
It's actually quite possible. If you've ever been to Universal Studios, they have a Spiderman ride that does them really well.
Man, that's such a great ride.
That is a great ride, but it doesn't use holograms. It uses polarized lens technology.
javeryh
04-27-2005, 08:10 PM
That is a great ride, but it doesn't use holograms. It uses polarized lens technology.
That Spiderman ride is the best ride ever.
WhipSmartBanky
04-27-2005, 08:45 PM
Everybody wants to be all cool and denounce any non-mainstream idea that Nintendo tries, saying "Ooooo look here we go again, VIRTUAL BOY THE SEQUEL!!!!!!!!" But they don't know what the hell they're talking about at all.
The VB wasn't a bad idea, it just wasn't executed properly.
If Nintendo does it right (and they very well could), it would indeed be Revolutionary. I would be damn impressed, and once I got my breath back, I would go out and pre-order one. We all saw futuristic depictions of virtual reality games and holograms, and anybody who didn't think it was a cool idea is either lame or a liar.
And really, people just love to chastize Nintendo for trying something different. They went with the mainstream for the Gamecube, and last I checked, they were in last place. I love my Gamecube, but I don't think it's a bad thing for Nintendo to get creative.
And again, using the VB as the universal doomed console is old and innacurate. Whenever you use it, you don't look creative or funny. You're only the 1097409730429374th person to try and make the analogy, and it's not any more clever than it was the 1097409730429373rd time.
If you want mainstream, you have 2 choices. That's enough. I can't wait to see how different my 3rd option is.
Does your jaw hurt?
evilmax17
04-27-2005, 09:06 PM
Does your jaw hurt?
I asked your mom the same question. Her answer was fairly muffled, but it sounded like "no".
zewone
04-27-2005, 09:11 PM
We know you're right because the company you started makes much more money than Nintendo.
Ha, you're hilarious. I forgot I was talking to fucking Richard Pryor I would have realized that anything you say it going to be comedy gold.
Ozzkev55
04-27-2005, 09:16 PM
3-d projection, hmm, theres a whole lot of problems to tackle with that one, i feel it is bogus, but rather the revolution applies to the controllers
kelpie182
04-27-2005, 09:44 PM
im all for novel & Innovated ideas/ inventions, really, do we want consoles that compete against each other by graphics? Do we want 3 of the same types of systems again? i know i dont, i'll wait and see how revolution turn out.
WhipSmartBanky
04-27-2005, 09:54 PM
I asked your mom the same question. Her answer was fairly muffled, but it sounded like "no".
And again, using the "your mom" joke as the universal comeback is old and innacurate. Whenever you use it, you don't look creative or funny. You're only the 1097409730429374th person to try and make the analogy, and it's not any more clever than it was the 1097409730429373rd time.
atheist_uberboy
04-27-2005, 10:18 PM
So the new nintendo console will use controlers that respond to being tilted?
Sweet! that will be even more revolutionary then when Logitec did the same thing with a PC controler a couple of years ago. And we all see just what a huge impact that had on gaming.
magilacudy
04-27-2005, 10:26 PM
If this is true, I hope Nintendo has enough money to pay off the lawsuits from all the people that get seizures from playing the Revolution.
basketkase543
04-27-2005, 10:38 PM
I think this is an incredible idea. If executed correctly, Nintendo will definately have me getting a system. The industry needs something like this to give it a boost. I think games as a whole have stagnated lately with very few innovations or original experiences being offered and I hope that this might help the situation.
Apossum
04-27-2005, 10:53 PM
I would as well, since Nintendo knows its key demographic cannot afford a really expensive console
Yes, Nintendo knows a lot of things, but a lot of times they don't act that way.
I just think that a new system utilizing a completely new technology to display games sounds like it will be pretty expensive.
CaseyRyback
04-27-2005, 10:54 PM
If this is true, I hope Nintendo has enough money to pay off the lawsuits from all the people that get seizures from playing the Revolution.
they have siezure warnings everywhere in the GCN manuals, and in the GCN instruction book itself.
If you get a siezure from playing a game console it is your own fault for not reading the warnings
opportunity777
04-27-2005, 10:57 PM
I doubt this is true because Nintendo couldn't be this stupid to bet on a half-assed idea like this when they have been in last place in the systems race the last two cycles.
rockhero
04-28-2005, 02:38 AM
from /.
Burgess's article has since been debunked. The patent [uspto.gov] he bases his speculation on is for an in-game camera system. There is absolutely no mention of 3D projection technology.
The other support for his speculation was that Nintendo demo'd a new peripheral for the Gamecube behind closed doors at E3 2004, but this ended up being the microphone that shipped with Mario Party 6.
This is the most halfassed "next generation console" rumor ever perpetrated. Burgess was too lazy to do thirty seconds worth of reading and now he's being rewarded with lots of hits from curious fanboys.
Sleepkyng
04-28-2005, 03:40 AM
wow, this thread has been a real treat!
your mom jokes,
a reference to Richard Pryor,
big numbers,
holograms,
bull shit,
and... what was the last thing? oh yah, retards.
Dr Mario Kart
04-28-2005, 03:51 AM
i never bought into the whole last place idea. If you talk market penetration, units sold, then yes. In America ONLY.
But if you talk about something else like profit, then no.
I could pay half the cost of getting a DrMarioKart brand fork in every home in america, at a huge expense to myself. Thus buying market share. But is it a success?
bmulligan
04-28-2005, 04:04 AM
i never bought into the whole last place idea. If you talk market penetration, units sold, then yes. In America ONLY.
But if you talk about something else like profit, then no.
I could pay half the cost of getting a DrMarioKart brand fork in every home in america, at a huge expense to myself. Thus buying market share. But is it a success?
Don't fret it, Doc. Some people just can't get past their belief that someone's success can only come from the failure of someone else. The three console makes couldn't ALL be succeeding at the same time; the one who's in last place must be a failure.
I hope there is some truth to any of the rumors. We need more innovation in the game industry than more polygons and better shading.
stocker08
04-28-2005, 09:04 AM
if you make a profit that is actually noticable, then no. Technically your not, not succeding, your just not succeding in beating the others down........
javeryh
04-28-2005, 12:48 PM
I could pay half the cost of getting a DrMarioKart brand fork in every home in america, at a huge expense to myself. Thus buying market share. But is it a success?
I'll take one! :D
oneirotekt
04-29-2005, 09:49 PM
from /.
Burgess's article has since been debunked. The patent [uspto.gov] he bases his speculation on is for an in-game camera system. There is absolutely no mention of 3D projection technology.
The other support for his speculation was that Nintendo demo'd a new peripheral for the Gamecube behind closed doors at E3 2004, but this ended up being the microphone that shipped with Mario Party 6.
This is the most halfassed "next generation console" rumor ever perpetrated. Burgess was too lazy to do thirty seconds worth of reading and now he's being rewarded with lots of hits from curious fanboys.
Haha. Wow, it's a small internet. I made that post as Anonymous Coward on Slashdot Games... and if you are who I think you are, I sit a few cubicles away from you at the office.
(me == JP)
easy_g
05-04-2005, 02:18 AM
hmmm. . .well there goes all the fun of speculating about what it could be.
oh well, i still REALLY hope they do do something awesome (i hate saying do do).
and just everyone knows, Nintendo is the most profitable of the three game companies and has a HUMUNGOUS stash of money in the bank. so the chances of Microsoft buying Nintendo or even Nintendo going bankrupt or anything like that are very slim.
Damn E3 is gonna be good this year.
Quackzilla
05-04-2005, 03:19 PM
If they do use that force feedback arm thing, you could write a program to make it stab people.
The way that the games are projected is quite a problem. I have to wonder if Nintendo's coming out with goggles/glasses of some sort, but if they're total pieces of crap, this amazing new development is dead in the water.Low-quality glasses could detract from the gameplay, and if they break or fail quickly, then people are going to really be pissed. Should they decide to go the route of high-end goggles of one type or another, are they willing to risk shipping out all of these peripherals, and hope it doesn't bomb? They could possibly lose a whole lot of money if this doesn't get off the ground properly. I mean, unless they can produce nice 3-D goggles at a low price, then more power to them.
Although my money is on glasses, they could go with a projector of some sort, but to me that's unlikely as integrating this 3-D format into the TV itself. I mean, although televisions are generally similar in construction, there's the problem of many people not owning high-end plasma sets. Lately, Microsoft has been catering to those with high-end, high-res TV's, and that's dissapointing to me, a poor young'un with a 14" CRT.
Having held faith with Ninendo through its years, I think they might be able to pull it off, but not at first. Given time and sales, I bet the Revolution will do okay.
kill3r7
05-09-2005, 03:04 PM
E3 is around the corner and that's when we'll know for sure everything else is bs until proven true. No point getting your hopes up.
MorPhiend
05-11-2005, 12:54 AM
Revolution is going to be a universal carrying case for the GCN, NDS and GBA all at once!:D
Morrigan Lover
05-11-2005, 07:10 PM
Imagine Porn on this thing!
MorPhiend
05-11-2005, 09:22 PM
Imagine Porn on this thing!
Porn on a carrying case?:?
frag.exe
08-17-2005, 05:52 PM
this is it. the rev will be a 3d console. just look at the metroid e3 movie. its the big hint. those rockets and simus jumping at the screen are really in 3d. i mean why have them come at you like that. another thing that little door under the disc drive prob. houses the glasses.........
Grave_Addiction
08-17-2005, 06:06 PM
another thing that little door under the disc drive prob. houses the glasses.........
That is probably the dumbest idea I've ever heard. Seriously.
Weedy649
08-17-2005, 06:11 PM
eh, the dual screen "third pillar" was getting the same negative speculation from everyone, 2 years later its selling like hot cakes and has a much better software lineuo(current and future so far) then PSP
Nintendo knows what they are doing....trying new things even though some people seem to like seeing the same things over and over again it seems(yet the complain about how nintendo uses the same old first party lineup i dont get it)
ryanbph
08-17-2005, 06:14 PM
wasn't the DS released last fall?