Sony to go head-to-head with M$???

[MorPhiend]

Sorry if this is already posted.


http://ps3.ign.com/articles/612/612985p1.html

Sony Considers 2005 PS3 Release
A company rep hints at the possibility of a release this year.
by Anoop Gantayat (http://ps3.ign.com/email.html)



May 12, 2005 - In a surprising twist on the next generation hardware race, a Sony representative has stated that a year 2005 release for the next generation PlayStation is a possibility. Responding to questions from Jiji news service, Sony Chief Financial Officer Takao Yuhara states, "For the year end sales season, simultaneously building up both the PlayStation Portable system in America and Europe as well as the next generation PlayStation is one option that we have."

Most industry speculation calls for a next generation PlayStation release in 2006. Sony's third party developers have backed this assumption up with a strong list of PlayStation 2 titles planned for the rest of the year and early next. The state of the next generation PlayStation software shown at next week's E3 show should reveal if a 2005 release is a possibility for the new system, or if Yuhara's comments were designed to take some steam out of Microsoft's Xbox 360 unveiling later today.

[mykevermin]

I hope they let the developers know.

[CappyCobra]

Sony blowing smoke yet again just like they successully did to Dreamcast. But I hope the general public doesn't fall for the same ruse yet again.

[alongx]

Sounds like Sony's blowing smoke to try to take eyes off of the much more visible Xbox 360. Come Tuesday, I have a feeling Sony will have to try to fend off the elusive Revolution as well. I'm curious about PS3 stats now...I know they're aiming for a 4GHz processor, but almost nothing is known about how it will compare to the XB360 as far as the number of cores (I'd guess one, but I could be wrong), number of supported hardware threads, etc. Also, who knows what nVidia's graphics card will be able to do for them. Hopefully Sony will have more than smoke and shadows when they talk about the PS3...I personally want some hardware specs or something. A mock up maybe. Anything, really. I don't care if they don't announce a single game, I want just raw data that I can compare with the competition. I don't care if PS3 is the best or the worst, I just want to see if Sony's taking advantage of their late(r) entry into the next generation.
Advanced Media posted a countdown to E3 article that I kind of liked talking about how Nintendo could really suckerpunch both Sony and Microsoft if Revolution is playable and is as great as my imagination tells me it should be. That said, Nintendo will never do it, but they'll definitely have an ass-kicking conference on Tuesday.

[MorPhiend]

Sounds like Sony's blowing smoke to try to take eyes off of the much more visible Xbox 360. Come Tuesday, I have a feeling Sony will have to try to fend off the elusive Revolution as well. I'm curious about PS3 stats now...I know they're aiming for a 4GHz processor, but almost nothing is known about how it will compare to the XB360 as far as the number of cores (I'd guess one, but I could be wrong), number of supported hardware threads, etc. Also, who knows what nVidia's graphics card will be able to do for them. Hopefully Sony will have more than smoke and shadows when they talk about the PS3...I personally want some hardware specs or something. A mock up maybe. Anything, really. I don't care if they don't announce a single game, I want just raw data that I can compare with the competition. I don't care if PS3 is the best or the worst, I just want to see if Sony's taking advantage of their late(r) entry into the next generation.
Advanced Media posted a countdown to E3 article that I kind of liked talking about how Nintendo could really suckerpunch both Sony and Microsoft if Revolution is playable and is as great as my imagination tells me it should be. That said, Nintendo will never do it, but they'll definitely have an ass-kicking conference on Tuesday.

That would be freakin' hilarious if Nintendo were the only one with a playable new console on the floor and they had multiple games in fully playable form and it blew away the 360 (maybe even the PS3). I would just die, after laughing for about two weeks straight.:lol:

[sighlintbob]

Wow...I can't wait to see another rushed Sony system with 5 or 6 different models over the course of a couple years to address manufacturing problems.

[whiteboy]

Wow...I can't wait to see another rushed Sony system with 5 or 6 different models over the course of a couple years to address manufacturing problems.

Wurd. Sony is just "blowing smoke" as mentioned before. Maybe they would release the PS3 in Japan in 2005 but no way would they get it out in America. They sure as hell didn't care about the DS getting months in America with no competition. I'm not even looking forward to any peripherals because they will get no support. (HDD, EyeToy)

[Pylis]

I think it's odd how strongly I'm rooting for Microsoft--I don't know why I hate Sony so much, nor do I understand my sudden allegiance to Microsoft, but I wouldn't mind seeing them crush Sony this time around; in fact, I'd like to see it happen (though it won't happen).

[CappyCobra]

I think it's odd how strongly I'm rooting for Microsoft--I don't know why I hate Sony so much, nor do I understand my sudden allegiance to Microsoft, but I wouldn't mind seeing them crush Sony this time around; in fact, I'd like to see it happen (though it won't happen).
It would be nice for Sony to be humbled my Microsoft. They been on top for too long. Humliation is always a good motivator to innovate.

[Eviltude]

Sorry if this is already posted.


http://ps3.ign.com/articles/612/612985p1.html

Sony Considers 2005 PS3 Release
A company rep hints at the possibility of a release this year.
by Anoop Gantayat (http://ps3.ign.com/email.html)



May 12, 2005 - In a surprising twist on the next generation hardware race, a Sony representative has stated that a year 2005 release for the next generation PlayStation is a possibility. Responding to questions from Jiji news service, Sony Chief Financial Officer Takao Yuhara states, "For the year end sales season, simultaneously building up both the PlayStation Portable system in America and Europe as well as the next generation PlayStation is one option that we have."

Most industry speculation calls for a next generation PlayStation release in 2006. Sony's third party developers have backed this assumption up with a strong list of PlayStation 2 titles planned for the rest of the year and early next. The state of the next generation PlayStation software shown at next week's E3 show should reveal if a 2005 release is a possibility for the new system, or if Yuhara's comments were designed to take some steam out of Microsoft's Xbox 360 unveiling later today.

Sony's sales season ends in like march.

[csantos]

Why not root for Nintendo? They are the ones who make games for a living instead of using games as a tool for diversicfication. It is good business to diversify, sure, but the life of a console will decrease every generation and very little innovation will exist.

[MorPhiend]

Sony's sales season ends in like march.

No. This is an official Sony rep speaking to a Japanese news agency. That's the fiscal year that you are trying to sound smart about, not the [year end]-[sales season] (Translated as Christmas presents from Santa).

This is not a question as to whether what was stated was really stated. It is whether or not Sony is going to do what they are hinting at, or if they are just trying to deter consumers from a competitor's product.

Next time think before you open your butt... I mean mouth. :dunce:

[epobirs]

Why not root for Nintendo? They are the ones who make games for a living instead of using games as a tool for diversicfication. It is good business to diversify, sure, but the life of a console will decrease every generation and very little innovation will exist.

Because, like Sega before them, Nintendo has left a lot of burnt bridges behind them. The burden is upon them to win those customers back.

[FriskyTanuki]

I'm not even looking forward to any peripherals because they will get no support. (HDD, EyeToy)
You should check your info, because the EyeToy is getting a bunch of support. It has 3 games out for it from Sony and 3 in the works, including a Chat utility that allows those with an NA and an Eyetoy to turn it into a videophone. Sega Superstars, DDR Extreme, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, and plenty of other games include support for the EyeToy. It has sold extremely well in the US and Europe and shows that people enjoy these different games where they can star and control the game with their own hands. There's definitely lot of potential for it to be used and support for the PS3 would be great news.

[easy_g]

Sounds like Sony's blowing smoke to try to take eyes off of the much more visible Xbox 360. Come Tuesday, I have a feeling Sony will have to try to fend off the elusive Revolution as well. I'm curious about PS3 stats now...I know they're aiming for a 4GHz processor, but almost nothing is known about how it will compare to the XB360 as far as the number of cores (I'd guess one, but I could be wrong), number of supported hardware threads, etc. Also, who knows what nVidia's graphics card will be able to do for them. Hopefully Sony will have more than smoke and shadows when they talk about the PS3...I personally want some hardware specs or something. A mock up maybe. Anything, really. I don't care if they don't announce a single game, I want just raw data that I can compare with the competition. I don't care if PS3 is the best or the worst, I just want to see if Sony's taking advantage of their late(r) entry into the next generation.
Advanced Media posted a countdown to E3 article that I kind of liked talking about how Nintendo could really suckerpunch both Sony and Microsoft if Revolution is playable and is as great as my imagination tells me it should be. That said, Nintendo will never do it, but they'll definitely have an ass-kicking conference on Tuesday.

All the rumor sections at various sites/mags i've seen have said that the PS3 will be crazy powerful. Now, I really can't verify this, but I wouldn't doubt it. And according to IGN, here's a brief discription of the processor:

- Each Cell processor contains 8 Synergistic Processing Units and a single 64-bit Power Architecture Unit (All are RISC designs with SIMD)
- Operates at >4GHz and capable of >256GFLOPS

Seems pretty fancy to me.

If for one am rooting for both the PS3 and Revolution. I started out disliking the Playstation, but overtime it's games have grown on me and I really want it around. I would absolutely love for the Revolution to come out on top (or at least ahead of Microsoft), but I'll still be happy as long as they stay competitive.

[mykevermin]

I'm rooting for good games.

If forced to pick one console to "pick," though, I think we should all be forced to select Nintendo, because their console history isn't ridden with problems, revisions, and a complete denial by customer service about said problems.

Sony and MS, of course...

myke.

[supadupacheap]

I dont root for multibillion dollar companies unless I work for them. Choosing sides and trying to change minds in the console war is rediculous, especially before any sort of concrete info is out there.

If MS makes the best system for me, Ill buy theirs.
Sony does, Im on the Sony train.
Nintendo does, Hey mario, hes some fat cash, go blow it on mushrooms.

Just wait, find the console that suits you best, and if its not #1 why the hell care? Youre happy right?

[punqsux]

I dont root for multibillion dollar companies unless I work for them. Choosing sides and trying to change minds in the console war is rediculous, especially before any sort of concrete info is out there.

If MS makes the best system for me, Ill buy theirs.
Sony does, Im on the Sony train.
Nintendo does, Hey mario, hes some fat cash, go blow it on mushrooms.

Just wait, find the console that suits you best, and if its not #1 why the hell care? Youre happy right?

im with you, but rather than jusging on the best system, ill support whoever has the best games/support.

...after some price drop-age of course ^^

[Dante Devil]

I'm rooting for good games.

If forced to pick one console to "pick," though, I think we should all be forced to select Nintendo, because their console history isn't ridden with problems, revisions, and a complete denial by customer service about said problems.

Sony and MS, of course...

myke.

I have to agree. I own all three systems, and I have a favorite for each. I think the winners are the gamers. We have the opportunity to choose what titles we want no matter what the system. PS2 had the great God of War, Xbox has the impressive Jade Empire, GameCube had RE4.

I also have to think that Sony will continue to do well is because of its base in Japan and the rest of the Orient. From my understanding the Xbox had struggled and continues to do so in the Far East (I could be wrong). I honestly don't think that will change much in when 360 is released.

I just have a strong feeling that Nationalistic pride (i.e. Japanese buying Japanese products, not foreign products) will mean the Sony will be very successful in Japan. Also, that same pride can be said about the Americans and the Xbox 360 (even thought it is made in Mexico).

One thing that I am very certain, that Microsoft and Sony will be in the 1 and 2 (who will be #1 and who will be #2 is still up in the air) position in the next gen console market.

[Acrylic]

but almost nothing is known about how it will compare to the XB360 as far as the number of cores (I'd guess one, but I could be wrong)

Didn't they say that the Cell has 9 cores?

Maybe I'm wrong too, but I always thought that was true.

[Tromack]

All the rumor sections at various sites/mags i've seen have said that the PS3 will be crazy powerful. Now, I really can't verify this, but I wouldn't doubt it. And according to IGN, here's a brief discription of the processor:

- Each Cell processor contains 8 Synergistic Processing Units and a single 64-bit Power Architecture Unit (All are RISC designs with SIMD)
- Operates at >4GHz and capable of >256GFLOPS

Seems pretty fancy to me.

If for one am rooting for both the PS3 and Revolution. I started out disliking the Playstation, but overtime it's games have grown on me and I really want it around. I would absolutely love for the Revolution to come out on top (or at least ahead of Microsoft), but I'll still be happy as long as they stay competitive.

The thing is I expect the Cell processor to be just like the "Emotion Engine" of the PS2. Potentially really powerful, but so esoteric and obtuse that it will be exceedingly rare for companies to be able to fully utilize it.

[CaseyRyback]

The thing is I expect the Cell processor to be just like the "Emotion Engine" of the PS2. Potentially really powerful, but so esoteric and obtuse that it will be exceedingly rare for companies to be able to fully utilize it.

I don't think the PS3 will be near as hard to program for. They know MS is nipping at their heels and they need to deliver a really powerful system with some killer games. With rumored launch titles like MGS4, the launch line-up should also be a lot better this time around

[Roufuss]

I don't think the PS3 will hit yet... the PS2 hasn't even released all of it's "killer apps" yet.

Maybe once FFXII and Kingdom Hearts 2 release, and there is nothing left on the horizon for ps2, then we'll see ps3.

I just couldn't see Sony pumping out ps3 even before the rest of ps2's big name games come out.

[Parathod]

I don't think the PS3 will hit yet... the PS2 hasn't even released all of it's "killer apps" yet.

Maybe once FFXII and Kingdom Hearts 2 release, and there is nothing left on the horizon for ps2, then we'll see ps3.

I just couldn't see Sony pumping out ps3 even before the rest of ps2's big name games come out.

That's exactly how I see it. They have enough to hold people over, and like said earlier, they didn't seem to give a shit about the gap between the DS and PSP (in America) or the Dreamcast and PS2. If Xbox actually meant something in Japan, Sony would probably be more willing to release the hardware a little early.

Personally, i'm pretty sure i'm done with Sony. The idea of Metal Gear Solid 4 or Final Fantasy XIII makes me want to pick up a PS3, but their blatant disregard for the consumer and lack of 1st party games is inexcusable.

[MorPhiend]

I don't think the PS3 will be near as hard to program for. They know MS is nipping at their heels and they need to deliver a really powerful system with some killer games. With rumored launch titles like MGS4, the launch line-up should also be a lot better this time around

Apparently, companies are saying today that the PS3 is very easy to develop for.

The Revolution will have my money from day one, no questions asked. Nintendo has yet to disappoint me. Sony and M$ have been nothing but disappointment to me. They will have to prove to me that they are worth my money. But I'll have to wait until they release. The stuff this past week seems kind of good, but it is all hype at this point. Of course each company is going to make their console sound good.

[CappyCobra]

Must we always refer to Microsoft as M$? I'm sure the Sony fans would would love to be refered to as $ony G3ystation. Or Nintendo fans like the name 'NINTENDOn't Regurgitation'.

Let's keep the name calling confined to the sidelines. You know who you are

[MorPhiend]

"M$" is not name calling. Grow up. They have money. They use it to buy their results. That is business. If you don't like it, go away.

[CappyCobra]

"M$" is not name calling. Grow up. They have money. They use it to buy their results. That is business. If you don't like it, go away.
Touch a nerve did I? Calling Microsoft as M$ is BIASED. Plain and simple. I was only ripping on Sony & Nintendo to prove a point.

[MorPhiend]

Go away troll.

[CappyCobra]

Go away troll.
Put your pride back in your pocket. I'm not trolling. It's not my fault you take offense when I make a valid point and you resort to namecalling.

[MorPhiend]

You are the one being defensive. I am just saying it how it is. If you don't like the way things are, go make your own thread about it. Leave this one to it's purposes.

[pumbaa]

You are the one being defensive. I am just saying it how it is. If you don't like the way things are, go make your own thread about it. Leave this one to it's purposes.

How about $ony, Micro$oft, and... ummm. Nintendough! They are all businesses and are all in this industry to make money and be successful. Period.

[CappyCobra]

You are the one being defensive. I am just saying it how it is. If you don't like the way things are, go make your own thread about it. Leave this one to it's purposes.

I defensive?

"M$" is not name calling. Grow up. They have money. They use it to buy their results. That is business. If you don't like it, go away.

How do you buy results from SELLING product? I think you are in the defensive crouch position my friend.

Either way, enough of this verbal jabbing.

[MorPhiend]

Feel free to use those terms, pumbaa. I am far from the first one to use "M$" and I definitely won't be the last one.

[KaneRobot]

It would be nice for Sony to be humbled my Microsoft. They been on top for too long. Humliation is always a good motivator to innovate.
I agree. Competition is often what gives dormant companies a kick in the ass and makes them good again - unless it drives them out of the business like Sega, but something tells me we won't be seeing that from MS or Sony. In my ideal industry, Microsoft would give Sony a serious beating in the upcoming generation, and after that either Sony would get its act together and take it back, or someone else would overthrow MS to keep the competition vital.

Ok, that's a lie - in my ideal industry, the Dreamcast would have won the 128 bit console war. But that scenario is about as realistic as a Bugs Bunny cartoon.

Why not root for Nintendo?
I'd love to root for Nintendo, but I don't think they have a chance in hell right now. "I might be crazy, but I'm not stupid."

And by the way, I hope I'm wrong. I DO hope Nintendo throws a serious scare into both MS and Sony this time around...but I can't see it happening.

[Roufuss]

Personally, i'm pretty sure i'm done with Sony. The idea of Metal Gear Solid 4 or Final Fantasy XIII makes me want to pick up a PS3, but their blatant disregard for the consumer and lack of 1st party games is inexcusable.

We may agree on some points, but not this one.

Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, Twisted Metal, hell even Jak and Daxter are all awesome 1st party games. And isn't God of War first party as well?

There are others, but I'm only sure of the ones I listed. I think Sony also has Dark Cloud, Ico, Hot Shots Golf, and Gran Turismo. Some of these may be Second Party that work for Sony, but it's close enough.

Sony's 1st party showings in the PS One era were by and large horrible, but I think they *really* picked up the slack when they hit ps2.