$400 Next gen systems? $70 games? hope not...

[MarkMark]

With this years consoles things started ut as $250 - $300 for an xbox or ps2 and $150-$200 for a gamecube

there are rumors that because of all the power behind xbox360 an ps3, they may cost up to $400! Nintendo revolution is rumored to go for a $250 mark

anyway here are my 2 questions

1- what is the max you would pay for your next gen system? (only for the system Not including games)

2- would you pay more than $50 for a new game (keep in mind game designers have tried pushing some real crap over for $50 ex: PN13, Charlies Angels, Drake of the 99 Dragons, Goldeneye rouge agent, Rouge Squadren 3, state of emergency etc)


my answers are
1- $200 for nintendo revolution maybe $250 if release titles are good
2- only a true masterpiece so far only legend of zelda TP shows promise of being that

[alongx]

I would pay $199.99 and not a penny more for the Revolution. I'd pay $250 for the Xbox 360 or PS3. For the Revolution and the 360, I think those figures could be reasonable - it is rumored that the 360 will be launching at $299 and the Revolution, like the GC, will probably want to have a significant pricing difference - but I doubt it'd happen for the PS3. There's just too much in the PS3 to make me think that they'd price it that low. Also, I don't know how willing Sony would be to hemorrhage money to get PS3 in people's living rooms.

Also, I don't pay $50 for games. So I wouldn't pay $60. It'd have to have a hell of a pack in to get that much money from me.

[crowbb]

1. I'd probably pay up to $300 for a system if I really wanted one of the launch titles. More likely though I will wait for the first price drops. The higher the price of games the less likely I buy the system at launch.

2. I've paid $70 for games before. I recall paying $70 for Strider as a kid, as well as a few other games. Nowadays I don't think I would unless they REALLY blew me away with a game and that is highly unlikely.

[YoshiFan1]

I won't pay more than $250 for any system. I also don't pay $50 for games so no way I will pay $60. I don't even like paying more than $3 or $5 for a game now (I'll occasionaly go for the $10 game if I really want it). I'm patient and can wait for price drops on both hardware and software before I get a system. For now, I'll continue to buy and play the under $5, PS2, Xbox and GCN games.

[greyzieoriental]

$200 max i'll wait for the price drop if its more
no way in hell i'm paying more than 50$ for a game unless its special edition, CE, LE
if they raise prices too high i would consider getting out of gaming to save myself

so mark u'ld buy a $200-$250 revolution and a gamecube game for it instead of a revolution game?

and yoshi so u only play used sports games?

[Murcielago77]

Ill drop 300 for a next gen console

Ill stick with the $50 mark unless its a special game or CE/LE like above poster

[mkg12]

wasn't the PS2 and XBOX originally $300 when they launched? if i remember correctly.

Considering the processing power and Graphics chips in the next gen systems i wouldnt be suprised if they cost more the $300. I mean currently an intel pentuim 3.2GHz CPU cost around $400 alone. Since it's a Cell Processor which is supposed to be better, and new technology i would think it would cost even more. Then the Graphics chip is supposed to be twice as powerful as the current Geforce 6800 Ultras......one of those cost $400 bucks right now....but prices drop a lot in technology real fast, so i am hoping for the best.

Just for the sake of saying, i would think if they were to hypothetically release the PS3 console tommorow it would cost a good $800 at least. But it's not coming out for another 10 months around?

[Dr Mario Kart]

Since I dont generally buy at full retail price, especially when high, I'd say I'd like those high prices to happen. Cause it would be funny to watch it from a distance

[coolieman2001]

$300 and no more. I would only pay $60 for Halo 3 and Final Fantasy XIII

[mkg12]

$60 for a next-gen game doesn't sound too bad. I mean it's not like we at CAG are going to be paying full price anyways.

[onikage]

I'd hate to spend more than $250 on ANY console, but if the PS3 is $300 I might make an exception. If the Revolution is more than $250 and/or the PS3 is more than $300 I will definitely wait for a drop.

As for games, I almost always wait until they have dropped in price and only buy new when the game is amazing. But even in those rare cases I still am hesitant to pay retail prices. A good example of my limit would be getting RE4 when it first came out but only paying $38 shipped.

$60-70 for new games? :rofl:

The only chance they'd have of getting that kind of money out of me would be for a FF7 remake, though I'm sure it would be available at a discount somewhere online anyway.

[greyzieoriental]

$60 for a next-gen game doesn't sound too bad. I mean it's not like we at CAG are going to be paying full price anyways.

<--- very true for this CAG
but IMO some games actually deserve the full price purchase

[62t]

It is the "amazing" games that i will avoid buying cause they will drop in price. If Atlus or Working Design are releasing games at $70 I would buy them. (Actually I already did with Arc Collection and Growlanser LE when they first came out).

[playaemagdnim]

I would pay $300 for a PS3, but no more. I'm not going to get all three consoles like I did this generation, unless something totally blows me away. I know I'm going to get a PS3 at launch and wait a long while for a Revolution (maybe when it hits $99 or $150...

I wouldn't buy games that are more than $50.... If they do end up being $70, then I'll probably get a game or two at launch, but wait for significant price drops after.

[indomitable]

$300 for either the new Xbox or PS3 and new games for whatever deal is going on at Gamerush...never full retail!

[whoknows]

I would pay around $300 for a PS3, Maybe $350 but thats pushing it. It really all depends how much money I have when it is released. I didnt think I would be able to affort a PSP, but somehow I did, so who knows what could happen between now and then.

[urzishra14]

i don't spend more than 30 for a new game and i get this gen games as low as 10-20 dollars at pawn shops.. i expect the same next gen.

[fivecardstud]

well since the PS3 will actually support HD video playback, it should cost a bit more than the others. IGN just ran a story saying the price may be as much as $465... here is the link:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/615/615745p1.html

[madmage]

my birthday is 2 weeks after x-mas, and between the two i get upwards of $350 in Best Buy gift cards. i will most likely use this to preorder a PS3. As for $70 games, no frickin' way. I will buy $50 games occassionally, if they are a sure bet I will like them. $70 games will be a problem for most people and I don't see how they can hope to sell anything for $70 on top of an expensive console.

[roguejedi5]

$200 max! I usually don't buy at launch mainly with the first batch of systems they have some kind of problems with it and not too hot a selection of games. As for paying $70, no way I would do that, unless its some kind of must have special edition.

[Drocket]

I'm going to be somewhat surprised if the XBox 360 and/or PS3 launch at $300. Its POSSIBLE that they might launch at that price, in an attempt to steal marketshare from each other, but they'll be loosing SO much money at that price that its utterly ridiculous. $400 is a much more likely price, and even then, they're STILL going to be losing money on console sales (PS3 especially. Not that the PS3 is going to launch anytime near to what Sony claims - they're lying through their teeth about the launch date to steal attention from MS.)

The Revolution will be either $200 or $250, depending on MS and Sony's pricepoint, and they'll most likely be breaking even more-or-less at that price. Nintendo knows how to be efficient and not get distracted by features that will be unused by 98% of buyers. Unfortunately, they don't know that being able to beat whores to death sells games/consoles. Well, maybe not so unfortunately...

[mgriff]

I think that the entire market is going to crash if anyone tries release a console for anymore than $300 and charge anymore than $50 for a game.

[starman9000]

Id pay $300, but only if it comes with a game and 2 controllers. But I am sure that wont happen.

[hohndog]

I'll go as high as $300 for any of the systems. I've paid more in the past for the 3DO and Neo Geo, but don't intend on doing that again. I won't pay more than $50 for a new game. I actually hate paying that now, and rarely do thanks to CAG. If all the games are priced high, I may hold off on purchasing the 360. No need to buy at launch if I don't buy any of the 360 games. We'll just have to see what happens.

[exceed19]

1. I'd probably pay up to $300 for a system if I really wanted one of the launch titles. More likely though I will wait for the first price drops. The higher the price of games the less likely I buy the system at launch.

2. I've paid $70 for games before. I recall paying $70 for Strider as a kid, as well as a few other games. Nowadays I don't think I would unless they REALLY blew me away with a game and that is highly unlikely.





strider sold for 70?? damn, i rented that back then on NES, what a wicked game!!


Id pay up to 400 for next gen systems (not the nintendo.....) because they will all support my fine tv to the fullest ( i have a $ony grand wega LCD42") and the HD inputs are begging for some 720p and 1080i formats..

its funny, you should see my sega saturn on the LCD... never thought 32 bit would look...so...32 bit....

hah..

[jam3582]

well iv made big purchases before and hasnt really bothered me. Id say for the xbox 360 $350 would be my limit. For the ps3 $400 I guess . Revolution I can say will be $200 no doubt about it . Im not a big spender although my new pc I made cost me a pretty penny getting all the expensive components first but it was well worth it .

Now $70 for a game is ridiculouse makes me not even wanna look at the game. Remember some people buy an ipod for 350 or 400 and all it does is play mp3s and carry around data . The new machines will entertain you for hours and hours in their virtual worlds.

[62t]

right now EB is accepting preorders for X360 games at $59.99 each.

[darkwingduck13]

Out of the current generation of systems, I have a Cube, a GBA SP, and a PS2, and I didn't pay over $100 for any of them. With this next generation, the only one I specifically have my eyes on is the Revolution. If they go through with the native VGA output, I *will* own one of those at some point to play on my giant VGA monitor, though I don't know when I'll pick it up...probably after the first price drop. I'm not interested at all in the XBox360, and if PS3 is $300 at launch, it's gonna be a LONG time before I pick it up.

[Dante Devil]

I wouldn't mind paying for $300 for the PS3, I might be tempted to pay a little more. If the prices on the next gen consoles are going to have a high price point, then I guess I will have to stick to one system for a while.

[mykevermin]

I think that the entire market is going to crash if anyone tries release a console for anymore than $300 and charge anymore than $50 for a game.

That's simply impossible, given the size of the game industry (in terms of sales); the largest difference between the current scenario and the past scenario is that almost all of this income is the result of gaming in the home (in the past, presumably due to the proliferation of arcades, the proportion spent on home and arcade games was obviously much larger).

At any rate, there is simply too much money for it to crash so easily (not to mention the installed base of gamers is enormous); even if the next generation gets off to a rocky start, there are enough AAA titles coming out for current consoles that will help stabilize the gaming economy in the (unlikely) event that the next generation overprices itself.

I also think that people are willing to spend more on home electronics; at least, that's what I'm convinced of every time I see the price of televisions in Sunday circulars (though the high price for HDTVs may be due to the fact that they could arguably still be selling to "early adopters.")

A price too high may be suicide; one could make that argument for the TG-16 (and the CD!), the Saturn, and the 3D0 (good god! $750 at launch!). However, one thing these consoles had in common was not just a poor lineup of launch titles, but a relative drought (sp?) of new titles coming in after that (IIRC). So, the cost of entry was already very high (what was the lauch price of the Saturn? $400? $500?), but with few blockbuster titles, there was little incentive to do so.

The Saturn also "shocked" the industry by arriving months prior to a speculated date (and given the lack of launch and other early titles, they shocked developers too, presumably). This "shock" did not translate into excitement, though - consumers were not prepared to invest so much money into a console that they did not think was arriving for a few months. Think to yourself if you would have the money to purchase an Xbox 360 if it came out this week; could you make the investment?

Short story long, the gaming industry is doing just fine; I wonder if an ironic crash could come from keeping titles at $50 (to keep consumers happy), while development costs continue to rise, reducing the profit margin to an undesirable low. This is highly unlikely, so we'll see how it turns out.

myke.

[paean]

Max for system: $299.99
Max for game: $59.99

But I most likely won't buy a system on its release because I hate paying for overpriced 1st gen games that aren't worth the disc itself.

Btw, PN13 is not crap, it is an awesome game. Not worth $50 maybe, but it is easily one of my favorite games on the cube.

[Dogpatch]

Revolution would not be to bad at $200-$250 for me. Which I think Nintendo could get away with a lower price point.

If Microsoft is hungry enough, they will bring 360 out under $300. If they can do this with decent launch titles I would go for it.

Sony on the other hand could only take so much of a loss. Considering how much they have in the PS3, a $400 price point would not surprise me. I probably would not spend over $300 on a new console. It's going to take something special to have me pay more than that (and it's not the controllers :) ).

I could go for a $60(max) game if it was really good. Only spend that kind of dough on games I really want now. Like Guildwars! :P

[chickenhawk]

$200 is my limit for any console. I will likely buy the PS3 at around $200, the Revolution at around $150 (assuming it follows a similar path as the GC) and $100-$150 for the 360. If games for the 360 wow me though the 360 could swap places with the PS3. That's pretty much what I have done this generation. I don't have an Xbox yet though - waiting for that $100 price point.

[MaxBiaggi2]

I'm really not into buying any systems at launch. There's rarely any games worth playing at launch, and the software prices don't start to come down for over a year. I'll stick with the current systems for a while because at least their games can sometimes be found at bargain prices.

[evilmax17]

I was going to be valiant and wait for pricedrops on all three, but I can't resist Revolution with online Smash Brothers at launch. I'd be willing to pay $250 for the combo.

[wubb]

I'd probably pay $200 for a next gen console. Since both the PS3 and Xbox 360 will certainly launch above that, I'll probably be waiting for a while. But that's fine with me as I wouldn't really want to buy a console until the first couple rounds of software have a chance to drop in price, too. (I'm not paying $50 for a game, let alone over $50. A game has to be pretty damn good for me to pay $20.)

I could MAYBE see myself spending more for the PS3, as I'd then be able to play all the PS2 games I've missed out on so far. But I'd probably just buy a cheap PS2 to do that in the interim. Hopefully PS2s will be cheap on the secondary market once the PS3 drops.

[Strider Turbulence]

I'd pay $400 for an XBOX 360 at launch just to get Oblivion. :drool:

[basketkase543]

Considering that we don't know enough about the Revolution yet I can' t really answer that. If the system is really nothing more than what we saw today than I have no reason to even buy one. The fact is that we haven't seen any games running, we don't know how the controller looks like, and we only know of a few games coming out. Without seeing what it is capable of there is no way I can put a price on it yet.

[jalu6]

wait. didn't games retail for 59.99 until only the last generation or two? i remember N64 games starting out at that price since they were still carts and cost more to produce. I mean, it's only since the introduction of the cheaper cd media that the $50 price became standard, right? so if prices were high and then went down, i certainly don't mind paying the original price from a few years ago.

im mean really, besides the consumer electronics industry, what prices have gone down or stayed the same for an improved product?

oh, and for the OP, Rogue Squadron 3 was not crap.

[gamefreak117]

$299 is reasonable because its 'bout the same price as a cheap eMac PC. I'd regret buying the Xbox at $299.99 over 3 years ago at CompUSA, like 2 months before it dropped to $199.99.

[punqsux]

With this years consoles things started ut as $250 - $300 for an xbox or ps2 and $150-$200 for a gamecube

there are rumors that because of all the power behind xbox360 an ps3, they may cost up to $400! Nintendo revolution is rumored to go for a $250 mark

anyway here are my 2 questions

1- what is the max you would pay for your next gen system? (only for the system Not including games)

2- would you pay more than $50 for a new game (keep in mind game designers have tried pushing some real crap over for $50 ex: PN13, Charlies Angels, Drake of the 99 Dragons, Goldeneye rouge agent, Rouge Squadren 3, state of emergency etc)


my answers are
1- $200 for nintendo revolution maybe $250 if release titles are good
2- only a true masterpiece so far only legend of zelda TP shows promise of being that

1) $150 for a system, unless something warrants a higher price purchase, possibly this revo game library, depending on how it pans out.

2) i would if the game deserves it. the only 3 games this gen that are worth that price tag imo are animal crossing (i bought a freakin DS for this game!) culdcept, and arc the lad: twilight of the spirits.

[jetblac]

I want one of those 360's bad and a PS3 worse...
but I haven't even gotten full use out of my PS2! so dropping that kind of cash is implausable for me at this time. Xmas could be good this year
A blown out Xbox (hard drive and something else) is rumored to cost $360... get it?

[XxFuRy2Xx]

I MIGHT be willing to pay 400 for a next gen system, not for the revolution though. As for 70 for a game, I don't know about that one...

[jalu6]

i look at it this way. current high end pc video cards go from $400-500 easy. and thats just for the video card, not the cpu, mobo or memory. you dont even get the keyboard or gamepad. so if a next gen system comes out that produces the same quality of game that a pc can do, plus have extra functionality (like mp3 or movie playback) then $400 is a bargain.

hell, if they could somehow fit microsoft word on the xbox 360, i may as well just sell my PC.

[cdeener]

Don't buy the systems and they will have to drop the prices. It's all about supply and demand. If you don't demand the system to sale them they will have to drop the price.

1. No, I wouldn't pay 400 bucks but if I buy enough cheap games the system in the end probably will only cost about 200 bucks depending on where you trade the games in.

2. No, I am to cheap to buy games at such a high price. I can wait till they drop the price for the fact that backwards compatibility is in effect and I can take advantage of the trade 2 for Pre-order at $29.99 at Gamerush.

[jalu6]

Don't buy the systems and they will have to drop the prices. It's all about supply and demand. If you don't demand the system to sale them they will have to drop the price.

ok, so we should all go stand outside our local best buy on launch days and try to convicnce everyone that if they dont buy the systems and wait, it will save them some money?

i think the hospital bills you end up incurring by trying this will far outweight the price of any console.

[cdeener]

ok, so we should all go stand outside our local best buy on launch days and try to convicnce everyone that if they dont buy the systems and wait, it will save them some money?

i think the hospital bills you end up incurring by trying this will far outweight the price of any console.

No, it isn't like that. I am just saying that if people didn't always live by the "I have to have it first" mentality we could get the companies to lower their prices soon after launch. For example, when most games don't sale well within a few months after launch what happens they drop the price. It probably won't happen but it is just a thought.

[cleaver]

I'd pay $400 for the PS3 but I doubt I'd pay more than $40 a games because my current cap is around $30.

[coolsteel]

Max i'm paying is 300 for the system and 50 for the game, any of that and I can simply wait.

[Flea]

I'd pay $300 for the revolution.

[Graystone]

I would pay no more then 300 for a system and no more then 50 for games.

[erehwon]

By the time that I've finished my backlog of games, there will likely be a price drop on the consoles. I also don't usually spend $50 or more on games, unless it is hard to find or had some extras with it.

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[SkyGheNe]

1. No more than 150-175 for a console. I first bought my ps2 for 170. GC at 100, and xbox at 130. I'm waiting until they drop. Besides, i've got plenty of games to keep me busy - and then when I buy next gen - all the games I want will have dropped in price.

2. 50 - but I rarely buy at 50 now unless it's nippon ichi and I really want it - I've got a shitload of games I want to finish - so I play those first and by the time I do finish they have dropped in price.

[jalu6]

No, it isn't like that. I am just saying that if people didn't always live by the "I have to have it first" mentality we could get the companies to lower their prices soon after launch. For example, when most games don't sale well within a few months after launch what happens they drop the price. It probably won't happen but it is just a thought.

yeah i hear what you were saying i was just having a little fun :)

but the problem with the industry is that generally, if the console doesn't launch very well, companies (and the media) start to adverstise doom and gloom for the system. also, a price drop too early also is a bad sign, and the next thing you know, developers start abandoning the hardware (re: Gamecube).

So, i guess in a way, strong system sales and early adopters do really end up making the system better. and everyone who is patient and can wait the year or two it takes for a price drop eventually get to reap the rewards. you just dont want too many people waiting.

[DuelLadyS]

I think that the entire market is going to crash if anyone tries release a console for anymore than $300 and charge anymore than $50 for a game.

My thoughts excactly. :applause:

I don't know what I'll be willing to pay for a next-gen console... first they have to release something I really want, then I'll figure out how much I can pay for it.

[Vampire Hunter D]

Ok well no way in hell will the Xbox 360 or PS3 be less than 300 so if you want one at launch sucks to be you and you have to wait. Me id be willing to pay 400 maybe Maybe 450 for PS3 or 360 Revolution im not sure. As for games 65.

[SkyGheNe]

Ok well no way in hell will the Xbox 360 or PS3 be less than 300 so if you want one at launch sucks to be you and you have to wait. Me id be willing to pay 400 maybe Maybe 450 for PS3 or 360 Revolution im not sure. As for games 65.


Ooooooo someone is so richy richy.

I need to own all three with a library of at least 20 games for each console - so - price drops I shall wait for. And it doesn't really suck at all. I get to save money while still enjoying the current generation which is still going on - probably will keep going (to an extent) even after the next gen is released.

[schultzed]

I think that I'm going to wait at least a year on these . . . maybe into 2007.

Mainly because I have a pile of stuff to play plus games from this generation I still want to buy.

That would give time for system drops and used games to hit the market.

[Roufuss]

EB's already got preorders up for games for Xbox 360 at 59.99 a game... and they aren't usually wrong on prices =/

I can barely spend 50 on a game, but 60?

[SkyGheNe]

EB's already got preorders up for games for Xbox 360 at 59.99 a game... and they aren't usually wrong on prices =/

I can barely spend 50 on a game, but 60?

I can't afford that - mostly because there are at least 3 games every month that I want - and this is due to the fact that I own gc, xbox, ps2 and a gameboy player.

[Roufuss]

I can't afford that - mostly because there are at least 3 games every month that I want - and this is due to the fact that I own gc, xbox, ps2 and a gameboy player.

Exactly... I only have PS2 and Gamecube at the moment (Xbox broke), and I'm lucky GC dosen't have many games on it that I want, since there's enough on PS2 as it is.

Imagine owning three systems with new games 60 dollars or more for each... if that's the case, I'll just stick to one system.

[mastermetroid]

I'd be willing to spend whatever nintendo wants me to spend after hearing that Smash Bros. will be a launch title and online, and three hundred on X360 and PS3 if I even feel like buying them at launch. As for the more expensive games, One word: Gamefly

[felixlighter]

From everything I've heard, the PS3 will be closer to $500 and I never really considered the idea of buying a console for that price. But after comparing it to some other purchases I've made, for instance a recliner for $500, I find myself considering the value I get out of that $500. I have paid much more for things I would be using much less. And that damn PS3 looks sooo good.... I would wait for the first price drop personally, but I don't see it dropping below $300 until much later in its life cycle. The XBox 360 on the other hand, In my opinion will follow the same pricing paths of previous generation consoles; $300 - 250 then $200 then $150 and finally $100.

[Zer0X1999]

Since I have enough games to last me several years, and not that into graphics I can hold off to buying at launch.

I would pay $200 for the PS3 and XBOX 360 at this point since there's nothing that they've showed that warrants me paying more since I'm not a graphics whore. Everything is just the same games that I don't buy now, but prettier.

I'd be willing to pay $250 for the Revolution just for the classic games, but only if they were no more than $5 each, otherwise $200.

$40 would be my limit for buying games, except for games release by Atlus since they seem to stay at $50. There is no way I'm going back to paying $60 for a game only package, for that price it better be a limited edition will cool extras.

[SkyGheNe]

From everything I've heard, the PS3 will be closer to $500 and I never really considered the idea of buying a console for that price. But after comparing it to some other purchases I've made, for instance a recliner for $500, I find myself considering the value I get out of that $500. I have paid much more for things I would be using much less. And that damn PS3 looks sooo good.... I would wait for the first price drop personally, but I don't see it dropping below $300 until much later in its life cycle. The XBox 360 on the other hand, In my opinion will follow the same pricing paths of previous generation consoles; $300 - 250 then $200 then $150 and finally $100.

xbox this generation wont drop below 150. They've already stopped production - so it's staying at 150 new.

[Roufuss]

xbox this generation wont drop below 150. They've already stopped production - so it's staying at 150 new.

Retail stores will want to get that stock gone ASAP the closer we get to Xbox 360... we'll see price drops.

[SkyGheNe]

Retail stores will want to get that stock gone ASAP the closer we get to Xbox 360... we'll see price drops.

As if they have new consoles to sell anyway? The xbox and such will sell fine regardless of whether they do a price drop or not - which is why I'm leaning towards a no. And if it does happen - i can't see it being below 130 new.

[ryanbph]

I thought they weren't stopping production untill late summer on the current gen xbox..I swear I just read that the other day on gamespot...Something like the current graphic chips for the xbox will be made untill mid to late july...

as for what I will be willing to pay...For the xbox 360, I won't spend over $360...I am hoping that is the launch price...I think the ps3 will go for as much as $500, I may or may not pick this up at that price..I wouldn't have a problem with $400...The revolution, $200..they really didn't show much that interested me..I do like the back catalog..I didn't get into smash brothers, but online, I may have to try it out..

Games will most likely be between $50 and $70...Some I will get at launch, and some I will use this site to pick up down the road...Didn't nintendo say something about games going to $60, for collectors edition.

[Zero3]

I always found it interesting that the American mentality in games is that $50 is the max someone will pay. Games that get released in Japan are upwards of $60 and more (I believe DQ8 was around $70 when it came out?).

Personally, I wouldn't pay more than $50 for a game either. As for a system, I could see myself spending $400 on it. But the whole idea, I guess, is that it's no longer "just a game system" 'cause if that were the case, $250 max. These things are powerhouses that do so much other stuff (media centers, I think they are calling them)... that I, frankly, don't really need.

I'd prefer a cheaper, game-console only version please. Never gonna happen, but I'm just sayin'.

[itspaidgasterblaster]

xbox-360 i would pay as much as 500 and for ps3 the most i would pay is about 700 but since in gamestop it says that it might cost less than 500 i don't worry to much. revolution i would pay 300 but i hope its less for all 3 of them because i'm getting all 3 of them.

[jalu6]

Well, apparently the person who said the PS3 would sell for $500 is about right.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/18/news_6125423.html

[dude2003]

1. i would pay 150 for all next gen systems if i were to get any of them so i guess i'll wait till after 3 or 4 years after launch to get one.
2. since i'm a true CAG i would only buy games that are 19.99 or less, like what i'm doing now.

overall reason is that i bought the xbox at launch for $500 back in 2001 (bundle from amazon.com) and have close to 100 games and over 70 i have not spend much time on. having a new system coming out so quickly, i have no time to finish what i currently have therefore i can wait 3 to 4 years for me to finish what i currently have.

[Indiana]

I will pay $299 for the Xbox 360 if it is as powerful and as great graphics that they are saying. Also the games will have to be AAA titles.

I would not be suprised if they launch at $399. Sega had done this in the past and $399 today is not as much money as $399 in 1995. Also MS has no competition this Christmas.

[Indiana]

Wow the PS3 may cost over $500!!! That is insane! Sony is going to lose to MS this time around.

[mmn]

Ooooooo someone is so richy richy.

Before you get annoyed at someone like that, please realize that most people in this thread still live at home with mommy and daddy and can save up their fast food paychecks to afford $500 game consoles. They don't have to deal with things like rent or car payments or credit card bills. So while they may get the console before you at least you don't have a bedtime.

[SkyGheNe]

Before you get annoyed at someone like that, please realize that most people in this thread still live at home with mommy and daddy and can save up their fast food paychecks to afford $500 game consoles. They don't have to deal with things like rent or car payments or credit card bills. So while they may get the console before you at least you don't have a bedtime.

Good point. I would lime your comments with the colors that only truth can unviel!...if I could find the damn color palette on the site.

[62t]

If you look at how much people are willing to pay for a PS2, Xbox, or DS last Xmas than you can see there are people willing to overpay for a system.

[greyzieoriental]

I always found it interesting that the American mentality in games is that $50 is the max someone will pay. Games that get released in Japan are upwards of $60 and more (I believe DQ8 was around $70 when it came out?).

games in japan usually have extras that we'll never see or even imagine having here with our 60$ LE games.

and the xbox will go below $150 for sure, i swear they use to sell the xbox for $130 new for a limited time, and $60 for next gen games is just crazy, they better have bonuses in every game. Also ebgames always takes preorders on anything and everything then estimate prices.

[SkyGheNe]

If you look at how much people are willing to pay for a PS2, Xbox, or DS last Xmas than you can see there are people willing to overpay for a system.

And that's the thing - I just want a console. Not a DVD player, not a boombox, not some moddable system that can emulate the systems I already have. I want a console which will play games - simple as that.

Who the hell buys a new entertainment center every 4 years.

Pft, maybe the systems would be in my price range if they didn't add on all the bull.

[ryanbph]

mmn Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyGheNe
Ooooooo someone is so richy richy.


mmn Quote:

Before you get annoyed at someone like that, please realize that most people in this thread still live at home with mommy and daddy and can save up their fast food paychecks to afford $500 game consoles. They don't have to deal with things like rent or car payments or credit card bills. So while they may get the console before you at least you don't have a bedtime.




That has to be a stupid ass comment...the avg parents aren't dropping $500 on their kids for xmass on 1 item ( Yes a fair amount will, but it is nowhere near the avg).

Their are a fair amount of people of the age of 18 ++ on this website...and some can afford it...I have all those items you listed to pay and then some...some people will want to spend the money, some won't be willing to part with that much, and some wish they had the funds available...

[SkyGheNe]

mmn Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyGheNe
Ooooooo someone is so richy richy.



Before you get annoyed at someone like that, please realize that most people in this thread still live at home with mommy and daddy and can save up their fast food paychecks to afford $500 game consoles. They don't have to deal with things like rent or car payments or credit card bills. So while they may get the console before you at least you don't have a bedtime.


That has to be a stupid ass comment...the avg parents aren't dropping $500 on their kids for xmass on 1 item ( Yes a fair amount will, but it is nowhere near the avg).

Their are a fair amount of people of the age of 18 ++ on this website...and some can afford it...I have all those items you listed to pay and then some...some people will want to spend the money, some won't be willing to part with that much, and some wish they had the funds available...

I don't think he was referring to people who have parents that dish out the cash for a new console: mostly to the people who don't have other things that soak up the little they get out of their paychecks. He was referring to the fact that as you grow up, you have student loans, family, a job, gas, insurance, and plenty of other things to be spending money on - and asking 500 dollars to play a fucking game is a bit much - especially when you have to put a bit of your paycheck on the side for utilities.

As for myself - I am 19 and already know I won't be able to afford it and to a degree, refuse to spend such an exhorbitant amount of cash on a console with extra features I won't use.

In regards to how many people are actually 18+...you'd be surprised. A good portion of Penny-Arcade are 16 and under and they sure as hell don't sound like it.

[jw1976]

as much as i'm impressed by all 3 systems and what they have to offer, i'm just going to sit back, relax and wait and see as time gets closer, to see what they all have to offer for me. i agree with some of the previous posters, that all I want is a gaming console, not an all-in-one-i-can-cook-too system. i'm fine with extra dvd playback, but i'm just going to play games on my system. along with everyone else... i'd just max at $200 bucks for any system out there, since it's a new generation and technology gets ever increasingly expensive as you put more in it.

i figured before all the articles that ps3 was going to come out at least at $500 b/c of the graphics card report i read, xbox would float around $300-400 and revolution about $200, since somehow nintendo manages to keep their prices low for some ungodly unexplainable reason.

games, i think i read an article a few months ago on IGN, when they had the GDC (game developers conference) and they did say that in the next gen, most games will be about $60 because the $50 ceiling that was originally implemented had been there for almost the past 20 years, and that because of the costs of development it is time they raised the ceiling, so games will probably be around $60 now.

but of course, being a CAG as much as i can, if i HAVE to have it, i'll pay $60, no more, but even with ants in my pants sometimes with buying games i'll have to learn to resist and wait.

[Aleryn]

$360 for XBox 360 if it lives up to all the hype. Otherwise? $200.
$100-$150 for PS3.
$100-$150 for Revolution.

Hell, if they try ganking $60+ per game for the next generation, I'll just say to hell with consoles and go back to the nirvana of PC Gaming exclusively. A PC game worth $70 is RARE, a console game worth $50 is even rarer, much less a $70 one.

[SkyGheNe]

as much as i'm impressed by all 3 systems and what they have to offer, i'm just going to sit back, relax and wait and see as time gets closer, to see what they all have to offer for me. i agree with some of the previous posters, that all I want is a gaming console, not an all-in-one-i-can-cook-too system. i'm fine with extra dvd playback, but i'm just going to play games on my system. along with everyone else... i'd just max at $200 bucks for any system out there, since it's a new generation and technology gets ever increasingly expensive as you put more in it.

i figured before all the articles that ps3 was going to come out at least at $500 b/c of the graphics card report i read, xbox would float around $300-400 and revolution about $200, since somehow nintendo manages to keep their prices low for some ungodly unexplainable reason.

games, i think i read an article a few months ago on IGN, when they had the GDC (game developers conference) and they did say that in the next gen, most games will be about $60 because the $50 ceiling that was originally implemented had been there for almost the past 20 years, and that because of the costs of development it is time they raised the ceiling, so games will probably be around $60 now.

but of course, being a CAG as much as i can, if i HAVE to have it, i'll pay $60, no more, but even with ants in my pants sometimes with buying games i'll have to learn to resist and wait.

Not to mention if you buy them when they first come out - god knows microsoft and sony are going to have problems.

[soulwish2003]

Japanese press is saying $500 range for PS3.

You've got to pay if you want to play... :)



With this years consoles things started ut as $250 - $300 for an xbox or ps2 and $150-$200 for a gamecube

there are rumors that because of all the power behind xbox360 an ps3, they may cost up to $400! Nintendo revolution is rumored to go for a $250 mark

anyway here are my 2 questions

1- what is the max you would pay for your next gen system? (only for the system Not including games)

2- would you pay more than $50 for a new game (keep in mind game designers have tried pushing some real crap over for $50 ex: PN13, Charlies Angels, Drake of the 99 Dragons, Goldeneye rouge agent, Rouge Squadren 3, state of emergency etc)


my answers are
1- $200 for nintendo revolution maybe $250 if release titles are good
2- only a true masterpiece so far only legend of zelda TP shows promise of being that

[62t]

And that's the thing - I just want a console. Not a DVD player, not a boombox, not some moddable system that can emulate the systems I already have. I want a console which will play games - simple as that.

Who the hell buys a new entertainment center every 4 years.

Pft, maybe the systems would be in my price range if they didn't add on all the bull.

The DVD playback function is one of the selling point for PS2. Many people passed on Dreamcast becasue of it. That that time the DVD player still cost a lot, which makes the PS2 seems like a great deal. The problem with Xbox is that DVD players are a lot cheaper by the time the Xbox is out.

[soulwish2003]

It was a selling point for sure... but man, the quality of the DVD playback is horrid on a PS2.



The DVD playback function is one of the selling point for PS2. Many people passed on Dreamcast becasue of it. That that time the DVD player still cost a lot, which makes the PS2 seems like a great deal. The problem with Xbox is that DVD players are a lot cheaper by the time the Xbox is out.

[mmn]

It was a selling point for sure... but man, the quality of the DVD playback is horrid on a PS2.

Maybe on older models, but the slim PS2s play DVDs great in progressive scan mode.

[onikage]

Every game system I have come to own within a few months of initial relase has been given to me as a Christmas or birthday gift from my parents. That's the only way I will be getting a PS3 or XBOX 360. I'm in college for at least another 2 years and really don't have hundreds of dollars laying around to spend on a $400 system or $60-70 games. I would probably be willing to spend $200 on the Revolution since it appears that it will be a true gaming system and not some trying-too-hard-to-be-hip multimedia box. Hopefully Revolution games will not be so expensive.

I don't see how Microsoft/Sony expect the 18-24 yr. old demographic to be able to afford higher priced systems and games.

[MarkMark]

wow im gone one day and i get 88replies! to those that felt i was calling all the games mentoined crap i meant that they were nowhere close to being worth what they first sold for i kno PN13 isnt crap but its not worth more den 15bucks
also to those that suspect a game crash might not be too far off from right.... see my newer thread History Repeats Itself

[shrike4242]

Forum move into Gaming Discussion.

[SkyGheNe]

It was a selling point for sure... but man, the quality of the DVD playback is horrid on a PS2.

It also decreases the life-span of the Ps2.

[alongx]

$200 is my limit for any console. I will likely buy the PS3 at around $200, the Revolution at around $150 (assuming it follows a similar path as the GC) and $100-$150 for the 360. If games for the 360 wow me though the 360 could swap places with the PS3. That's pretty much what I have done this generation. I don't have an Xbox yet though - waiting for that $100 price point.

Well, you'll be waiting forever. Once the last of the Xboxes are sold, they're done for good - nVidia stopped making the GPUs last month, IIRC.

[AlbinoNinja]

i may go as high as $400

The only way I would go $70 for a game is if there was homebrew dl content: imagine buying a FPS, finishing the single player game, and then going online and downloading a new campaign with different enemies, levels, and possibly weapons

---then continuously repeat until you get bored weeks later

[punqsux]

It also decreases the life-span of the Ps2.

statistics please? ive used my ps2 as my main dvd player and havent had any problems (except the blue disc dre's, but that has to do with reading cds, i doubt its related)

[SkyGheNe]

statistics please? ive used my ps2 as my main dvd player and havent had any problems (except the blue disc dre's, but that has to do with reading cds, i doubt its related)

Maybe I'm mistaken. I remember discussing it with a gamestop employee and him bringing that up as a cause of the short life span. Anyone know anything about a correlation between the two?

[KaneRobot]

Won't pay more than 300 for the 360. If that means waiting for a price drop, so be it. It won't take long, especially with Sony and Nintendo's systems coming down the pipe shortly after.

If a unified next-gen DVD format is agreed upon, I'd consider buying a PS3 for $350, which would also likely require a price drop. However, if we're in for a format war between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, I'm staying away from the PS3 until a clear winner starts to emerge. I have no desire to risk owning the "Beta" of the next video format, especially at that price, and especially when I'd already have the 360.

[io]

From everything I've heard, the PS3 will be closer to $500 and I never really considered the idea of buying a console for that price. But after comparing it to some other purchases I've made, for instance a recliner for $500, I find myself considering the value I get out of that $500. I have paid much more for things I would be using much less. And that damn PS3 looks sooo good.... I would wait for the first price drop personally, but I don't see it dropping below $300 until much later in its life cycle. The XBox 360 on the other hand, In my opinion will follow the same pricing paths of previous generation consoles; $300 - 250 then $200 then $150 and finally $100.


You know, I've had it in mind to have some sort of cap for myself, like $300 or $400 - but that is mostly because I've just newly re-entered console gaming since my Colecovision days and got a Gamecube for $100 and a PS2 for $150 (most expensive 'console' I've bought so far is the PSP!). But what you say here, felixlighter, makes a lot of sense. I'm looking at dropping $1200 for the wooden outdoor playset at Costco (and that is a great deal if you research these things), and things like furniture cost $300-$2000 a piece. Me and my family will certainly get $500 worth of entertainment out of the PS3 (or $300 worth out of the Revolution - screw the FPSbox), especially when compared to those other items. And that is at least on par (if not cheaper) than the price (in today's $) my father paid for my Atari back in the Stone Age.. Anyway, I'd *definitely* rather sit on our semi-worn couch and play the new systems than drop $1500 on a new furniture set (my wife, on the other hand...).

However, what might hold me back is the list of launch titles for the PS3. I need to resist spending the $500 right away if there isn't anything great coming out (none of the ones mentioned so far interest me at all). $500 is one thing, but add in a few launch games at $60 and you are talking real money :D, especially if they aren't great games (I'm still waiting for a potentially great next-gen RPG to be announced). Of course, I would hope I could get them via Gamerush for much cheaper - if that is the case (as it has been with the PSP) I might bite on the PS3 at launch anyway.

[vherub]

It seems most companies will get a better level of manipulation if they put out rumors exaggerating the price, and then ultimately reveal a lower price point. This way people mentally prepare themselves for the higher price and then they feel they have already gotten a good deal when it turns out to be lower.
I would like to call the psp as my first expert...

[io]

It seems most companies will get a better level of manipulation if they put out rumors exaggerating the price, and then ultimately reveal a lower price point. This way people mentally prepare themselves for the higher price and then they feel they have already gotten a good deal when it turns out to be lower.
I would like to call the psp as my first expert...

Yes, and that also is key. If Sony "leaks" that the PS3 *might* be $500, then it comes in at $400, people will be jumping for joy, when they probably would have expected it to be $300 if there had been no "leaks". Of course, this will all get thrown out once the Xbox 360 comes out - if Sony is even $100 over MS in pricing, that might bite them, no matter what they leaked previously.

[strebor]

I'm really cheap (and poor), so I won't spend anymore than $200 for PS3 (probably the first one I'll get, but nowhere near launch obviously), and I'd rather spend less on the Revolution, depending on how many good games it has. I don't know if I'll get the 360 though, but it'd probably be the last system and I can't see myself spending over $150 for it.

I also won't pay $50 for games now, so I'm not going to pay any more than that. I just wait a bit and spend $20-$30 instead, I'm slow at playing games anyway.

[bobo2k4]

I usually dont buy a next gen system till 2 years after launch. When the really good deals come out.

[Alpha2]

If I were to see a drastic improvment in the quality of the games over the current games I'd pay 400 for a system but you can be damn sure I will be very picky about the games I buy for it and how much I spend on them.

I'm not going to drop 60 bucks on a game unless the box is loaded with extra crap, I want toys, soundtracks, sunglasses, rebates, special feature disks and coupons for sex with convention Booth babes before I lay down 3 twenties PLUS tax.

[WinnieThePujols]

Do you guys really think that prices of games will rise, though? I mean, I've heard rumors about it to, but new games have been released with a $50 price tag for the last decade, at least.

I remember my mom buying me Super Mario RPG for my birthday. It was $50.

I remember buying NHL '98 for PSOne. It was $50.

I remember buying Madden NFL 2005 for PS2. It came out to $50.

People have always speculated that prices will rise in games. Quite honestly, though, I just don't see it happening.

And...I'd say maybe $300 for a new system. But PS3 I really, really desire. I was an enormous Morrowind fan, and Oblivion could really tempt me to buy a system at a high price. Plus, the video I saw of Killzone 2 shocked me. Those graphics are absolutely insane. (I'm sure they don't look that good...and the "gameplay" looked extremely staged, so I know a lot of it is just hype...but...still!)

So, $50 for a game, and then $300 for a console.

[Kayden]

Launch titles generally arent that great, any decent ones can be picked up really cheap when the next wave of games hits. As for the consoles... Even if I had the money... I'm going to wait until they don't have any kinks that are "normal and to be expected of electronic equipment" Translation- I don't want to buy something thats broken and then be told I should expect it to not work.

[electrictroy]

1- what is the max you would pay for your next gen system? 2- would you pay more than $50 for a new game Like with my PS2, I'll wait until the price drops to $200. GAMES - I never pay more than $30.... most of the time, only $19.
I think $50 for a game = scalping. They charge $50 to rape the people who *must* have it on the first day.... and then drop it to $30 two months later.


Anyone remember N64 cartridges going for $60? Or how about brand-new Atari/Intellivison carts for only *$30* !



troy

[Apossum]

I'll let myself get gouged at first and buy some full priced stuff at first...once I get a few good online games that will have some "forever" replay value, that's when my inner CAG kicks in.