The Official Star Wars topic

[CaseyRyback]

please keep spoilers to a minimum at least for the first weekend (not everyone can go thursday, but for those lucky enough, if there is enough interest I could see also making a spoiler thread)

[hobocorpses]

STAR WARS Rocks!

[Calamityuponthee]

Yeah, when I wake up It's not only my birthday but at 11pm I will be going to the advance screening.

Can't wait.

[FriskyTanuki]

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Vader is Luke's Father!!!!

[Scorch]

I've never, ever been a huge fan of Star Wars (though I LOVE the games). My brother played the movies all the time. Episode 1 and 2 were alright.. but I've got 12:01 tickets and a friend going with me.. she's been dying to see it. Can't wait. Looks like it's going to be awesome.

[crazytalkx]

**************Spoiler*******************








Vader is Luke's Father!!!!

I thought it was Chewbacca.........

[FriskyTanuki]

I thought it was Chewbacca.........
No, he's Han's father.

[Ugamer_X]

http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyondergames/trailers/ROFL.STARWARS.NERDS.wmv

[Scahom1]

ROLF, you beat me too it man!

Probably one of the funniest things i've ever seen, and I don't even like that dog.

[Derwood43]

Has anyone read any books that are post ep. VI?

What can you tell me about them? What are the titles...are they worth reading?

[Collectordragon]

Has anyone read any books that are post ep. VI?

What can you tell me about them? What are the titles...are they worth reading?

I would like to know too. I don't really know much about the SW universe post Episode VI and haven't read any of those books but from what I've read online *small spoliers*

*small spoliers*

Luke opens a new Jedi academy and Leia and Han get married and have twins.

*end spoilers*

[jho]

The thrawn trilogy of books written by timothy Zahn are excellent - heir to the empire, dark force rising, and the last command are good reads. I highly recommend.

[zewone]

Has anyone read any books that are post ep. VI?

What can you tell me about them? What are the titles...are they worth reading?

*SEMI-SPOILERS*


I've read one, I forget the name of the book as well as most of what the book covers. I do remember the begining talking about how Boba Fett lived and introducing Han and Leias kids.

[Dead of Knight]

I've been sick the past week but I've got 2 tickets for the 1:25 pm show tomorrow. Hopefully I feel better tomorrow, though it matters not- I'm going anyway.

Did anyone see Jimmy Kimmel yesterday? Yeah I know he sucks but my mom had it on the TV. He had this bitchy 3rd place finisher from The Bachelor on (he showed clips and she said that all her life she's been discriminated against because she's pretty) and he did a dating game with her and three nerds who were waiting in line to see Star Wars. Of course she couldn't see any of them until she had made her pick. The questions she had to ask were Star Wars themed and pretty retarded. And of course she picked the creepiest guy out of the three. She didn't pick the other guys because one had a mustache and one was 19, even though the guy she did pick had a mustache anyway.

[Noodle Pirate!]

just saw this on imdb
"Star Wars creator George Lucas makes a cameo appearance in the sci-fi series' final installment Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - but only eagle- eyed fans will spot him. The 61-year-old originally only intended to include his daughters in a busy crowd scene, but they insisted he join them in full galactic gear. Lucas is recognizable because of his trademark bushy beard. He says, "There is a scene, a large crowd scene, which my daughters are in and they sort of insisted that I be in it, and so I did it."

Eagle-eyed? just look for the bullfrog throated alien. Won't be hard to spot with that thing under his face.

[Snake2715]

http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyondergames/trailers/ROFL.STARWARS.NERDS.wmv

Great I missed that. Well worth 10 minutes.

It almost makes me embarrassed to go tonight.

Oh well.

[Dead of Knight]

http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyondergames/trailers/ROFL.STARWARS.NERDS.wmv


This never gets old. I dled it again and I am watching it, still laughing my ass off.

[Ozzkev55]

I would like to know too. I don't really know much about the SW universe post Episode VI and haven't read any of those books but from what I've read online *small spoliers*

*small spoliers*

Luke opens a new Jedi academy and Leia and Han get married and have twins.

*end spoilers*
Jacen and Jaina isnt it

[cgpwns]

*Spoiler Alert!!!!*


I screened it last night, needless to say it was awesome.

Anyways at one part on the planet Cruscant (or however its spelled) I think I saw the Millenium Falcon!! Or at least a ship very similar to it.

[Javery]

It's a trap!

[JimmieMac]

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=2692;category_id=332;pcid1= ;pcid2=

[guyver2077]

cant wait for tonight

[Dead of Knight]

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=2692;category_id=332;pcid1= ;pcid2=

^Good.

Better:
http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=2694

Best:
http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=2696

Bestest Evar:
http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=2698;category_id=371

[zewone]

Those pet costumes are Phat Albert.

[Dead of Knight]

Edited the pet costumes. Check out the one I added, it's the best one.

[Wombat]

i will post this here too, only because of time sensitvity, thanks for understanding

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52254

[thehuskerfan]

This movie is going to kick ass!

[guyver2077]

its already begun...theres already 100+ people waiting at a local theatre

[Dead of Knight]

its already begun...theres already 100+ people waiting at a local theatre

To get a good seat I presume? I bet the tickets were already sold out.

This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where the gang was forced to sit in the front row of the theater....

[Kaijufan]

I still can't find a Darth Tader at any local stores. :roll:

[Matt Young]

I was in LA today for E3, and people were already lined up in the afternoon.

I was going to go to a midnight showing in Riverside, but I can't pull it off and still wake up for E3 Day 2.

[Jaket]

just got back... ROTS blows the first 2 out of the water...

no perfection, but oh so enjoyable!

[MaskedPlague]

yeah, it was great. I really enjoyed it. So many disturbing moments. I have to watch the original trilogy now!

[Richlough]

Well my 22 year wait is over . I totally dug the movie . Of course people were in the parking lot picking at it , the bottom line is it's meant to be enjoyed .

[Theenternal]

:!: Spoiler, spoiler spoiler, dont read unless you want to.



One of my friends had seen the movie with me said they saw Qui Gon for a glimpse in the background, anyone else see the movie that saw this.




End of Spoilers

[Drico]

I just got back from it... and... It was fucking awesome. Easily the best of the prequels, and close to being my favorite of them all. Surprisingly, there was only one scene that made me chuckle with the Anakin/Padme romance. You'll know it once you see it! Hayden Christensen's (sp?) acting has improved greatly, I thought. Natalie Portman was never a particularly good actress to begin wth. I did kinda miss that there was no Boba Fett whatsoever, but that's most likely because he was only a small part in the original trilogy and Episode III was already stuffed full.

I was slightly disappointed in a few other aspects, such as the Frankenstein style scene with Vader near the end. Also, it starts to seem like a drag about 30-40 minutes into the movie, but it quickly picks up and redeems itself.

Overall, I'm not disappointed like I was with AOTC and TPM (although both good movies) and I think it definitely lives up to the original Star Wars movies.

[coolsteel]

Just got back, I was floored . Easily the best of the new trilogy and definatly holds its own against Empire or for those that don't mind ewoks Return of the Jedi. Anakin's final descent into the dark side made sense and was ultimately very tragic, none of the cliche I just want more power for the sake of having more power here. Even Palpatine showed a slightly new side as he recalled the story of his old master. John Williams did a much better job on the soundtrack this time around and the CGI was looking amazing. All and all a thumbs up from me.

[coolsteel]

:!: Spoiler, spoiler spoiler, dont read unless you want to.



One of my friends had seen the movie with me said they saw Qui Gon for a glimpse in the background, anyone else see the movie that saw this.




End of Spoilers





I was looking HARD at this scene just because I was expecting it, best I can answer is maybe, I saw an outline of something for a second at most but the way the camera was panning around made it hard to see

[afedock]

I just got home from the 12:01 showing and I must say it is definitly one of the best. I enjoyed it (and I didn't enjoy episodes I or II)

[gofishn]

That was a great movie, like 95% fighting and they still manage to tie everything together. Now to go buy IV, V, and VI...

[pumbaa]

Very very very good. The Frakenstien scene was required... but still pretty crappy. Everything else was amazing... but I loved the first two movies as well.

[guyver2077]

The Movie Was Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

[CoffeeEdge]

It is 3:36 AM, and I just got home from the midnight premier. Holy shit. It was incredible. Not only was it incredible on it's own, but it more than made up for I and II's faults. Everything was just about perfect, and it finally really felt like old Star Wars again.

I'll be seeing it again, several times; it's an instant favorite.

[Scorch]

3:13am here, just got back. For those familiar with Nashville (or Opry Mills), the line was from the theatre to the Rainforest Cafe. For those not familiar and don't know why this is a big deal.. that's a line that's literally half a mile long.

Doing some quick math here.. all 8 screens showing the midnight show were sold out, the number of people in like was 2,700.. $7.50 a person.. if half of those spent at least $4 at the concession stand..

$20,250 gate + $5,400 concession stand = $25,650 midnight showing.. and that's just at one theatre. That's insane!




Spoilers, obviously. That should be a given, considering this is a SW topic.


The movie itself.. sucked. Worst movie i've ever seen.

Just kidding. I loved it. The acting seemed kinda forced at times, though.. I was literally on the edge of my seat during the Obi-Wan/Anakin and Yoda/Palpatine fight. The ending was awesome, it felt like you stepped back to the 70's. I liked the Grievous/Obi-Wan fight as well, though when Grievous fell, I was hoping Obi-Wan would just drop down and slam the saber in his back..

I will definately go see it again.

[supermariomelee]

That was a great movie, like 95% fighting and they still manage to tie everything together.

****Spoilers****
Not everything, they didn't explain Chewbacca's transition into Episode IV.

The Darth Vader Frankenstein scene was definitely overplayed with the force crushing and the screaming.

I can also see why my brother doesn't want to take his kids to it, cause you know when you see Anakin switch on the lightsaber near the kids what was implied.

Anyone else notice the line Anakin said to Obi Wan before their last fight was the same line they used for their fight in Episode IV?

And I guess Sam. Jackson was right, he did go down in the blaze of glory although it wasn't really what I expected to happen.
***End of Spoilers*****

What made me angry at the theater I saw it at was that they were letting people into the theater at 10:30. When they were saying that if anyone showed up early, they would have to wait in a line if you called earlier in the day. So I got stuck with floor seating. Also security went around and busted 2 bootleggers during the movie(one of them was obvious with the light on).

Plus the theater oversold the two 12:05 showings and some people had to wait for the 12:45 showings. I feel sorry for those people that got there late and were told to wait.

[Zman310]

Spoilers (kinda), and all that

Just returned a few minutes ago (ugh, took me 40 minutes to get out of the parking lot), and, yes, ROTS definitely kicks fucking ass. It was simply amazing. Hayden actually made me like Anakin this time, from the very beginning even! The action, the worlds, the Emperor's plot were all handled superbly. I did think Vader's Frankenstein was a tad much, but I am quite willing to forgive it. And, no, I did not see Qui-Gon, but don't worry, I will be going back, quite likely several times, so I'll keep an eye out for him.

An amazing experience; it was a fantastic evening.

[twiztidjester]

Great movie but during the Obi-Wan/Anakin and Yoda/Palpatine fight the movie cut off every one in the theater was fucking pissed, it took 5 minutes to get every thing working again. After the movie they gave us all free passes to see it again. In my opinion it was one of the best Star Wars Movies ever.

[Dead of Knight]

I still can't find a Darth Tader at any local stores. :roll:

I bought mine at Disney World (MGM SW store that is after the Star Tours ride) and the guy said they were the only place that sold it anymore, and that they weren't getting anymore in. This was April 22nd. I dunno if that's true or not, but last I checked they're not going for much on eBay.

PS: 1:15 P.M. cannot come soon enough now that you guys hyped the shit out of this movie!!

[tdphillips]

Going at 7 tonight, can't wait!

[cgpwns]

3:13am here, just got back. For those familiar with Nashville (or Opry Mills), the line was from the theatre to the Rainforest Cafe. For those not familiar and don't know why this is a big deal.. that's a line that's literally half a mile long.

Doing some quick math here.. all 8 screens showing the midnight show were sold out, the number of people in like was 2,700.. $7.50 a person.. if half of those spent at least $4 at the concession stand..

$20,250 gate + $5,400 concession stand = $25,650 midnight showing.. and that's just at one theatre. That's insane!




Spoilers, obviously. That should be a given, considering this is a SW topic.


The movie itself.. sucked. Worst movie i've ever seen.

Just kidding. I loved it. The acting seemed kinda forced at times, though.. I was literally on the edge of my seat during the Obi-Wan/Anakin and Yoda/Palpatine fight. The ending was awesome, it felt like you stepped back to the 70's. I liked the Grievous/Obi-Wan fight as well, though when Grievous fell, I was hoping Obi-Wan would just drop down and slam the saber in his back..

I will definately go see it again.


Too bad the theaters (at least UA,edwards, and Regal) make money from Concession, not box office. In fact we don't even get to decide how much to charge for tickets, thats why food is so freaking expensive (and I sneak in my own).

As for the movie, it was awesome. I was a bit dissapointed by Grievous.

*Spoilers*

Was he coughing because of what Mace Windu did to him in Clone wars?

[cgpwns]

I am so glad I'm not working this month (due unfortunatley to the recurrence of a bone tumor)!

My local newpaper has a pic of the theater I work at and it is packed for the 9 am show. The people in concession have it the worst. But ushers have to clean up after thousands of people, and maintain the line of Star wars fans. Even box office has it rough, we have to ask people to donate to the stars of hope, even with all those people in line. At least everyone is getting in plenty of hours. By the time I come back hopefully things will have calmed down a bit.

http://www.geocities.com/cgpwns/swep3.jpg

[jetsetradio21]

*Spoiler Alert!!!!*


I screened it last night, needless to say it was awesome.

Anyways at one part on the planet Cruscant (or however its spelled) I think I saw the Millenium Falcon!! Or at least a ship very similar to it.

I totally saw it too!

[Dead of Knight]

This history teacher in my school is a huge nerd and he went to the midnight show. He is also taking a half day as a personal day, along with his father, who is the superintendent, to see it again.

Also, we had a presentation this morning for the top 10% of the class. It was supposed to be a formal ocassion. One girl who I'm friendly with dressed like a Jedi, lightsaber and all. Her sister, who was in the audience, had the same outfit on.

[thehuskerfan]

I thought Episode 3 was a warm welcome and a good finale.

I loved the line, "You were the chosen one!"

[Darkside Hazuki]

Well...off to the theater.

[MaxBiaggi2]

Personally, I'll wait for the DVD. I'm excited about the film, but I actually like to hear the dialogue, music and sound effects instead of random idiots screaming and talking to the screen. Most North American film goers couldn't be more rude or selfish if they tried.

[Mookyjooky]

I TOTALLY DIDNT EXPECT FOR OBI WAN TO BE COME DARTH VADER AND ANAKIN TO TAKE OBI WAN'S NAME OUT OF RESPECT. WHO KNEW??? WOW!!!

[thehuskerfan]

Personally, I'll wait for the DVD. I'm excited about the film, but I actually like to hear the dialogue, music and sound effects instead of random idiots screaming and talking to the screen. Most North American film goers couldn't be more rude or selfish if they tried.
I'll bet the DVD will come out right before Christmas.

I'll probably pick up the whole set of movies on dvd.

[zewone]

Fucking great movie. I was also wondering why Grievce was coughing his lungs up.

[Ozzkev55]

I was going to see this movie saturday...but my party of five cancelled out on me...and i gae up midnight tickets yesterday to go with them...i couldnt be more pissed off

[Calamityuponthee]

Fucking great movie. I was also wondering why Grievce was coughing his lungs up.

The cough came from damage Mace Windu inflicted on Grevious using the force as he was taking off with Palpatine.

[Doylerulez]

I dunno, I went to the midnight premiere last night (18 theatres, place was packed) and just thought it was ok. The action was good, but some battle scenes seemed anticlimatic, and I'm not a fan of sarcastic battle droids. I had people talking throughout the movie behind me, so I was annoyed for most of the movie though.



edit, apologies
**kinda spoiler***
I laughed hysterically when DV yelled "nooooo" when told of what happened.
**end kinda spoiler***

[Ozzkev55]

I dunno, I went to the midnight premiere last night (18 theatres, place was packed) and just thought it was ok. The action was good, but some battle scenes seemed anticlimatic, and I'm not a fan of sarcastic battle droids. I had people talking throughout the movie behind me, so I was annoyed for most of the movie though.

**kinda spoiler***
I laughed hysterically when DV yelled "nooooo" when told of what happened.
**end kinda spoiler***
space that spoiler a bit more

[jughead]

soooo dark. I absolutely loved it and thought it was my favorite out of all six. I think I am about to watch the old ones just cuz revenge of the sith got me so hype. I don't think there will be much negative feedback for this one.

[whoknows]

What's Star Wars? Am I missing something good?

[Scrubking]

!SPOILERS!

It's about time that a Star Wars movie feels like a Star Wars movie. This movie feels like it belongs with the last three episodes unlike the first two. The acting and diolog was way better than the first two, and in the action department it destroys all other star wars movies. This movie was great, but I felt that some things should have been better/different:

- Palpatine didn't seem as evil as he should have been as the emperor - especially when he hovers over vader's charred body like if he cares for him.

- The dooku fight was WAAAAAY too short and trivial. He dies so easily that you have to wonder how yoda didn't kill him in the second movie. If yoda can take palpy why couldn't he defeat this guy?

- Grievous fights like a pussy compared to the cartoons where he defeats 4 or 5 jedi AT THE SAME TIME. On top of that he is constantly running away like a little girl. WTF happened there??

- How can windu defeat palpy, but yoda can't even though yoda is supposed to be the most powerful jedi???

- The jedi are killed too easily by the troopers when they turn on them. They constantly dive into hordes of droids shooting at them, but a couple of troopers can easily kill jedi. WTF?

- The whole Chewie/yoda connection was stupid and shouldn't have been done.

- Anakins defeat was lame and anticlimactic. He easily could have just jumped further down where it was safe and continue the fight. And the whole Anakin went crazy angle is stupid. Vader went to the dark side - he didn't lose his senses or go insane. He never would have jumped right into Obiwan's saber like that.

- The vader yelling scene was beyond dumb and totally out of character.

- The news about qui-gon is supposedly so important yet it is hardly given enough attention.

- I felt the movie should have ended with the tyranny of the empire beginning with the scene of vader and the emperor looking out the window with the Imperial March playing. The fact that there was no imperial march was a letdown.

Still the movie was great and I will watch it again.

[Ledhed]

Got back a little while ago. I went to the trouble of going early and getting in line for basically no reason. I went to the 11:15 showing, and got there about 9. I had just dropped off my sister at school, and didn't feel like driving the half-hour back home, so I just whipped out my DS and chilled. The 10:00 showings were PACKED. Completely sold out; line ran all the way through the lobby. Meanwhile, I was sitting in the 11:15 line, and no more than about a dozen people wound up in line before seating. Regardless, I got a great seat.

Awesome, awesome movie. Nothing but fighting. Fight fight fight. I was hoping for a little more action on Kashyyk, but I ain't complaining.

[jlarlee]

interesting article

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/19/film.starwars.badseed.ap/index.html

[Scorch]

Revenge of the Sith is on track for a November DVD release.

[Zenithian Legend]

Great movie indeed. Lucas said that this movie was a "tragedy" and indeed it was, my only gripe remains how they're de-villifying Vader with all this crap they're putting his face on to sell it. Such is the way of the world today though.

[Toireht]

Just got back from seeing it, and was floored by it. Some corny scenes, I really laughed when anakin said "I saw your ship" to padme, and then just silence.

Spoiler:


Did anyone else notice TARKIN, W00t W00t

[Zenithian Legend]

Spoilers from spoilers... if that makes sense

- Palpatine didn't seem as evil as he should have been as the emperor - especially when he hovers over vader's charred body like if he cares for him.

Good question, perhaps it's like that of a rich man who has already gone through four wives, and this being his fifth, he's willing to put a little more effort into it?.. Honestly it's hard to say why, although there isn't much of the Emperor's character revealed in the other 3 films aside from the "supreme evil being". One can only assume that he becomes colder and more evil as his power grows over the next 20+ years leading to Episode IV, and he saw Anakin as the ultimate tool to help him reach his vision.

- The dooku fight was WAAAAAY too short and trivial. He dies so easily that you have to wonder how yoda didn't kill him in the second movie. If yoda can take palpy why couldn't he defeat this guy?

Indeed, while it makes sense that Anakin take him out as he had grown much stronger, isn't this suggesting that Anakin could've taken out Yoda, or anyone else. Perhaps Lucas just wanted to show how powerful Anakin had become.

- Grievous fights like a pussy compared to the cartoons where he defeats 4 or 5 jedi AT THE SAME TIME. On top of that he is constantly running away like a little girl. WTF happened there??

Can't help you here as I've never seen the cartoons, but I definitely expected him to put up more of a struggle.

- How can windu defeat palpy, but yoda can't even though yoda is supposed to be the most powerful jedi???

Ah, I think this was a trap or trick played by the Emperor. He baited Anakin in, by pretending to be weak, knowing that Anakin would turn on Windu and against the Jedi, thus leaving him no other alternative but to join with Palpatine. As we saw no sooner had Anakin chopped off Windu's arm did the Emperor who was "so weak" use his powers to launch Windu into orbit.

- The jedi are killed too easily by the troopers when they turn on them. They constantly dive into hordes of droids shooting at them, but a couple of troopers can easily kill jedi. WTF?

WTF indeed. And in episode IV Ben says that "a young Jedi by the name of Darth Vader helped the Emperor to hunt down and kill all the Jedi" well what Jedi did he hunt and kill if they were already all dead (save Yoda and Obi-Wan) at the end of Episode III?

- The whole Chewie/yoda connection was stupid and shouldn't have been done.

That's your opinion...

- Anakins defeat was lame and anticlimactic. He easily could have just jumped further down where it was safe and continue the fight. And the whole Anakin went crazy angle is stupid. Vader went to the dark side - he didn't lose his senses or go insane. He never would have jumped right into Obiwan's saber like that.

Eh, I think Anakin was trying to show Obi-Wan not to doubt his power and all, and obviously he was wrong... either way, I must agree, I expected one of those machines to "accidentally" dump a can of molten rock over Anakin and that would be how he was burned up.

What I thought was really dumb, was how he just suddenly stopped burning, this defies the laws of physics.

- The vader yelling scene was beyond dumb and totally out of character.

Indeed, how does he have any memory or show emotion for his Wife, yet then becomes totally emotionless in the next movie? Perhaps again, the 20 years of time made him colder and more evil, but still the scene should have been cut. Perhaps he could have asked what happened and acted apathetic towards it? I did like seeing the whole room get crushed though.

- The news about qui-gon is supposedly so important yet it is hardly given enough attention.

Seriously, and who cares about Qui-gon anyway, he was a lousy Jedi, and fell to Darth Maul of all people. Why Yoda wouldn't channel someone more significant is beyond me... oh well I guess they were just trying to explain how Luke later shows this ability at the end of Episode VI.

- I felt the movie should have ended with the tyranny of the empire beginning with the scene of vader and the emperor looking out the window with the Imperial March playing. The fact that there was no imperial march was a letdown.

Ya, I was surprised it went on to show more, and where the twins went, I thought that was kind of implied.

Still the movie was great and I will watch it again.

Agreed as well :)

I just still wonder why there were no Wookie Jedi :-k and how Chewbacca goes from being a General (or something to that effect) in the Wookie army to a smuggler.

[zewone]

Can't help you here as I've never seen the cartoons, but I definitely expected him to put up more of a struggle.
I'm thinking he pretty fucked up from the force move Mace Windu pulled on him as he was taking Palpatine. Also I recommend you watch the clone war cartoons at they are bad ass and way better then Episodes 1 and 2.
WTF indeed. And in episode IV Ben says that "a young Jedi by the name of Darth Vader helped the Emperor to hunt down and kill all the Jedi" well what Jedi did he hunt and kill if they were already all dead (save Yoda and Obi-Wan) at the end of Episode III?
Obie and Yoda talk about jedis that are spread out, also a reason they go back and change the distress coded message at the Jedi temple. So there was a lot more jedis we didn't see. In fact we only saw the jedis from one planet and the jedi council killed.

[Zenithian Legend]

Hmm they did change the code didn't they... anyhow, it looked to me like all the Jedi were getting gunned down on different planets, as the terrains all looked different each time, but what do I know, I'm just a dumb animal.

And you didn't answer my last wookie questions... :-p

[zewone]

The Jedis they showed getting killed on different planets were all from the Jedi Council, the wookie thing, I don't know, because the empire took over his home planet and wookies are endagered species in episodes 4-6 maybe? Who knows.

[Scrubking]

Spoiler!

The point with Chewbacca was that his name being mentioned served no purpose other than to say "Hi, I'm chewie from the other movies. Look at me, woo hoo!".

It was a stupid way to try and tie him in with the other movies. If they would have fleshed out some kind of relationship then It would make sense and be worthwile to even mention chewbacca, but his cameo is dumb. The wookie army battle does much more to tie in chewbacca than his 2 seconds of face time with yoda.

I also figured that palpy was playing dumb with windu, but I specifically watched to see if he gave some sort of sign that he was faking, but he didn't. It would have been nice if he at least hinted at what he was doing.

Also, I know that greivous got his chest crushed by windu, but logic would dictate that the first thing he would do is get himself fixed instead of going through half the movie and even hold meetings without paying any attention to his critical injury. If he didn't then he doesn't deserve to be called a general cause he is too stupid. Regardless Obiwan kicked his ass way too easy. If greivous can handle 5 jedi at 100% then he can surely handle 1 jedi at 50% or less. And, the fact that he was always looking to run away goes against everything the cartoon portrayed of him.

[willardhaven]

<spoiler, sorry I just got caught up in the discussion>














I didn't get the Qui-Gon Jin part at the end either... and why doesn't anyone refer to the Emperor as Sidious in the future movies?

Why on earth does yoda choose a horrible planet like Dagobah to hide on? Whereas Obi-Wan gets to live on a somewhat civilized one.

I disliked some of the dialogue, and the Darth Vader yelling "nooooo" was extremely hilarious and poorly written. It's like Lucas worked so hard on making Yoda/Obi-Wan and Palpatine cool that he disregarded the already established Vader character.

Darth Vader is a bitch.

[Ozzkev55]

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[ryanbph]

I saw it last night, great movie...I wish they had included some more of the dialog that was in the book...it gave a lot more insight, and could have used that in the movie a little more...



*****CHEWIE SPOILER****

Between sith and a new hope, according to the EU (I believe, I haven't gotten that far in the books)...chewie is a slave, and him and Han Solo hook up...solo allegedly was raised by a wookie maid..something like that...Han saves chewie, and han gets kicked out/or quits the Empires army, chewie is bonded to him, and they start smuggling to make a living***

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It is something along those lines...i am trying to read the books in chronological order, and I am in the middle of revenge of the sith right now

[Moxio]

Damn I NEED TO SEE THIS. X.X

[Backlash]

SPOILER DISCUSSION (replies to others with spoilers)
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Indeed, while it makes sense that Anakin take him out as he had grown much stronger, isn't this suggesting that Anakin could've taken out Yoda, or anyone else. Perhaps Lucas just wanted to show how powerful Anakin had become.


My friend who was read all the books said that Dooku is supposed to be the best light saber dueler evah (which would explain how he beats both Anikin and Obi-wan together and then Yoda in episode 2). So when Anikin beats him in Ep. 3 it's a big deal. But then it's dumb that Obi-wan can beat Anikin at the end.



Ah, I think this was a trap or trick played by the Emperor. He baited Anakin in, by pretending to be weak, knowing that Anakin would turn on Windu and against the Jedi, thus leaving him no other alternative but to join with Palpatine. As we saw no sooner had Anakin chopped off Windu's arm did the Emperor who was "so weak" use his powers to launch Windu into orbit.


Exactly.


WTF indeed. And in episode IV Ben says that "a young Jedi by the name of Darth Vader helped the Emperor to hunt down and kill all the Jedi" well what Jedi did he hunt and kill if they were already all dead (save Yoda and Obi-Wan) at the end of Episode III?


He killed all the Jedi still on Curuscand (or however it's spelled) at the temple and wherever else they were.


What I thought was really dumb, was how he just suddenly stopped burning, this defies the laws of physics.


Yep I mentioned that to my wife during the movie.


Seriously, and who cares about Qui-gon anyway, he was a lousy Jedi, and fell to Darth Maul of all people. Why Yoda wouldn't channel someone more significant is beyond me... oh well I guess they were just trying to explain how Luke later shows this ability at the end of Episode VI.


This explains how Yoda and Obi-wan both come back as "ghosts" when they die in later episodes (5 I think?). I guess they just used Qui-gon because he was the only other real Jedi character from the first 3 episodes(well, he and Windu).

[Moxio]

Um people can you please put spoilers a bit farther spaced down? One line is hardly going to keep my eyes from seeing. Sex plz k thx?

[guyver2077]

coruscant

[Nirvanaguy777]

Saw the flick today...was unimpressed.

[zewone]

Also, I know that greivous got his chest crushed by windu, but logic would dictate that the first thing he would do is get himself fixed instead of going through half the movie and even hold meetings without paying any attention to his critical injury. If he didn't then he doesn't deserve to be called a general cause he is too stupid. Regardless Obiwan kicked his ass way too easy. If greivous can handle 5 jedi at 100% then he can surely handle 1 jedi at 50% or less. And, the fact that he was always looking to run away goes against everything the cartoon portrayed of him.

Yeah, he was way more bad ass in the cartoon, like im using lightsabers with his feet, I expected more from him in the movie, but they portrayed him as a coward. Still he was pretty cool.

[bmulligan]

Also, I know that greivous got his chest crushed by windu, but logic would dictate that the first thing he would do is get himself fixed instead of going through half the movie and even hold meetings without paying any attention to his critical injury. If he didn't then he doesn't deserve to be called a general cause he is too stupid. Regardless Obiwan kicked his ass way too easy. If greivous can handle 5 jedi at 100% then he can surely handle 1 jedi at 50% or less. And, the fact that he was always looking to run away goes against everything the cartoon portrayed of him. .

Woah, woah, woah there, padwan. Don't get started on the logic of Star Wars. There is none. Just try to suspend disbelief for just a while longer and be happy. Some of us have had 25 years to be pissed at Lucas for that third film with the ewoks, so just take 2 steps back or something and learn to enjoy for a little bit. Clear your mind of questions, no more will I teach you today...

[Zman310]

I saw it last night, great movie...I wish they had included some more of the dialog that was in the book...it gave a lot more insight, and could have used that in the movie a little more...



*****CHEWIE SPOILER****

Between sith and a new hope, according to the EU (I believe, I haven't gotten that far in the books)...chewie is a slave, and him and Han Solo hook up...solo allegedly was raised by a wookie maid..something like that...Han saves chewie, and han gets kicked out/or quits the Empires army, chewie is bonded to him, and they start smuggling to make a living***

***END SPOILER***

It is something along those lines...i am trying to read the books in chronological order, and I am in the middle of revenge of the sith right now

That about sums it up. If you want the full story, I'd recommend that you read the Han Solo trilogy (The Paradise Snare, The Hutt Gambit, and Rebel Dawn); they're all very good books.

[Scrubking]

!!Spoiler!!

My friend who was read all the books said that Dooku is supposed to be the best light saber dueler evah (which would explain how he beats both Anikin and Obi-wan together and then Yoda in episode 2). So when Anikin beats him in Ep. 3 it's a big deal. But then it's dumb that Obi-wan can beat Anikin at the end.

He didn't defeat yoda - he ran away from yoda like a little biatch. Also Anakin, if you want to believe the movie, really defeated himself by throwing himself into certain doom at the hands of Obiwan who was on "higher ground".

Yeah, he was way more bad ass in the cartoon, like im using lightsabers with his feet,
Yeah, I was hoping for some of his unorthodox moves, but alas he couldn't even use his hands deftly.

Um people can you please put spoilers a bit farther spaced down? One line is hardly going to keep my eyes from seeing.
One line isn't supposed to keep you from seeing. Your brain, self control, etc are supposed to after seeing the word "spoiler".

[jughead]

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sometimes I think some people go to the theatre so that they CAN be unsatisfied. Some of you people are negative nellies that are upset with all of the hypotheticals. Whoever said that Anaken could have just jumped further down and continued fighting... well I have news for you... he didn't. And guess what? If you would have made the movie you could have altered that very insignifigant detail. And perhaps if you would have made the movie then maybe Anaken wouldn't have got his ass kicked by Obi-Wan anyways. It seems like you would have liked it that way. IMO, the Anaken/ Obi-Wan scene was by far my favorite good/evil encounter in all of the movies. When he said "You were the chosen one..." it really meant something to me. Unlike any of the other films I felt the pain that the characters felt which to me was the biggest change in this film than in the other films.

[taiidanx]

!SPOILERS!

It's about time that a Star Wars movie feels like a Star Wars movie. This movie feels like it belongs with the last three episodes unlike the first two. The acting and diolog was way better than the first two, and in the action department it destroys all other star wars movies. This movie was great, but I felt that some things should have been better/different:

- Palpatine didn't seem as evil as he should have been as the emperor - especially when he hovers over vader's charred body like if he cares for him.

- The dooku fight was WAAAAAY too short and trivial. He dies so easily that you have to wonder how yoda didn't kill him in the second movie. If yoda can take palpy why couldn't he defeat this guy?

- Grievous fights like a pussy compared to the cartoons where he defeats 4 or 5 jedi AT THE SAME TIME. On top of that he is constantly running away like a little girl. WTF happened there??

- How can windu defeat palpy, but yoda can't even though yoda is supposed to be the most powerful jedi???

- The jedi are killed too easily by the troopers when they turn on them. They constantly dive into hordes of droids shooting at them, but a couple of troopers can easily kill jedi. WTF?

- The whole Chewie/yoda connection was stupid and shouldn't have been done.

- Anakins defeat was lame and anticlimactic. He easily could have just jumped further down where it was safe and continue the fight. And the whole Anakin went crazy angle is stupid. Vader went to the dark side - he didn't lose his senses or go insane. He never would have jumped right into Obiwan's saber like that.

- The vader yelling scene was beyond dumb and totally out of character.

- The news about qui-gon is supposedly so important yet it is hardly given enough attention.

- I felt the movie should have ended with the tyranny of the empire beginning with the scene of vader and the emperor looking out the window with the Imperial March playing. The fact that there was no imperial march was a letdown.

Still the movie was great and I will watch it again.

Having read a ridiculous amount of comics and books I'll draw some of my own conclusions here.

The Dooku fight was a setup for Anakin to begin his fall. Dooku was not meant to win this fight, he was actually set up be the emperor. The emperor betrayed dooku, since he thought he would be left alive.

Obi-wan is the master of Soresu, the ultimate defensive saber technique. The cartoons wrongly exagerate Grievous' prowess in my opinion (also he didnt kill any of the jedi in that sequence except the padawan and non-essential jedi. The darkhorse comics detail this). While powerful, Grevious is arrogant and cowardly once he knows he is outmatched and without backup. The clone wars sequence had him backed by thousands of super battle droids, so I am sure he felt fairly confident about the outcome. Obi-wan is very skilled, and if he has adequate preparation can attune himself to the force.

Obi wan can beat Anakin because Anakin has become blinded by his power and rage. Actually, Obi wan has an opening to kill him during the final duel when in the control room fighting on the table (when they are fighting hand to hand). Obi force pulls his saber to himself before Anakin can react, but he hesistates for a second, allowing Anakin time to parry. As for the final blow, Anakin had become blinded by his power. He believed he could easily kill Obi, and pushed his luck. At this point Kenobi has let go of his attachment to anakin and does what he has to.

[Zenithian Legend]

I saw it last night, great movie...I wish they had included some more of the dialog that was in the book...it gave a lot more insight, and could have used that in the movie a little more...



*****CHEWIE SPOILER****

Between sith and a new hope, according to the EU (I believe, I haven't gotten that far in the books)...chewie is a slave, and him and Han Solo hook up...solo allegedly was raised by a wookie maid..something like that...Han saves chewie, and han gets kicked out/or quits the Empires army, chewie is bonded to him, and they start smuggling to make a living***

***END SPOILER***

It is something along those lines...i am trying to read the books in chronological order, and I am in the middle of revenge of the sith right now

:) Awesome, I honestly didn't expect an answer to that. Makes sense though.

One thing that still makes no sense to me though, is how Anakin was so young when they first found him, and then later on he is grown and marrying Padme, while Padme doesn't seem to have aged at all. I just... don't... get it :-k

[D4rkewolfe]

I watched it today...man me and my friends went to the local theatre here. We saw that it had 5 screens playing, so we decided to go and buy tickets and get there at 11:30 to be early.

Man how wrong we were. I mean the whole parking lot was full. I figured this was just a small military place. It's not a real big city or anything. We went to get tickets, all showings were sold out. We were like "holy crap...the town beat us in geekness" >.>

Anyways, we went today and saw it, great movie, definitely better than the previous 2. I was satisfied...period. No complaints.

[WhipSmartBanky]

Damn, that was satisfying.

Great Frankenstein's monster moment at the end.

[WhipSmartBanky]

and why doesn't anyone refer to the Emperor as Sidious in the future movies?
Probably for the same reason as Count Dooku was rarely referred to as Darth Tyranus...

[supermariomelee]

*****Spoilers******

Yeah, the ending definitely was the best one of this trilogy. But I felt the building of the Death Star should've been the last thing shown. But seeing the then prototype TIE Fighters and then seeing Tarkin talking with the Emperor as Vader is walking up definitely one of the high points of the movie.

What was Padme saying before she died? I heard her name the kids Luke and Leia, but couldn't really hear what she told Obi-Wan before she died.

Also, the Qui-Gon Jinn thing was probably the way that Obi-Wan and Yoda became one with the force and became "ghosts" in the original trilogy after dying.

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[Zman310]

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What was Padme saying before she died? I heard her name the kids Luke and Leia, but couldn't really hear what she told Obi-Wan before she died.

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I do believe she said that there is still good in him, that is Anakin/Vader. And whadda know, she was right!

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[js1]

Yeah, he was way more bad ass in the cartoon, like im using lightsabers with his feet, I expected more from him in the movie, but they portrayed him as a coward. Still he was pretty cool.


Oh hell yeah, I loved grivous in clone wars! You pretty much sumed up how I felt about his part in the movie.

But about the movie as a whole me & the wife enjoyed it. I did see to many parents bring kids(9 & under) to the movie. I also felt the movie was over too soon,(2+ hrs) I swear I could of sat there for at least another 45 min. to an hour longer. It just seemed to fly by....

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Any one else think that when grivous was opened up by obi-wan and you saw his heart, do you think he was kind of a "prequel" of vader?Or Like a early version(lesser technology) or
an experiment?

And I also thought when grivous and obi first started fighting, and grivous started spinning the lightsabers(got visions of clone wars in my head), that was sooo sweet!It's just a shame they made him coward in the movie....

[jlarlee]

saw it tonight and wow

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Anakin jumping down in the last scene would have made less sense. He was a cocky SOB and too arrogant to back down. Plus the last straw was Obi Wan telling him thta he had the high ground. He beleived Obi Wan was an inferior warrior (Hence the ten times I saved your skin) and he sure as hell wasn't taking advice from him.
Also him ceasing to burn was kind of weird but that may have been Palpatine/Sidious using his sith power of granting life at work.
Also about palpatine showing concern for Anakin made sense to me. The sith do feel emotion and actually are much more emotional than the jedi. And even though they have this weird habit of hoping their apprentices over throw them they do care for them and take pride in them






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[RedvsBlue]

*****spoiler answer*****

I do believe she said that there is still good in him, that is Anakin/Vader. And whadda know, she was right!

*****end of spoilerific answer*****

That's what I thought I heard too.

[Ledhed]

That's what I thought I heard too.

That's what she says.

[twanky]

Just got back from seeing it at 3am, i really need to watch 4,5, and 6 now. Anybody know where to get the trilogy for cheap? Awesome movie! Led you were so right....a movie not to be passed up.

[Scorch]

Um people can you please put spoilers a bit farther spaced down? One line is hardly going to keep my eyes from seeing. Sex plz k thx?

..the hell you reading a topic about Episode 3 for if you haven't seen it? Like you didn't know there'd be spoilers when you clicked the thread.


'Sith' Draws $16.5M at Midnight

Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith drew an estimated $16.5 million from midnight showings alone on its opening day, according to 20th Century Fox. The early figure stands as the biggest midnight launch on record.

"There are a lot of absentees today," Bruce Snyder, Fox's head of distribution, quipped to Box Office Mojo, referring to those who skipped work and school to see Star Wars. "Lots of people went through the turnstiles last night, and the matinees right now are fabulous. There's a very good chance of breaking the single day record."

Approximately 2,900 of Revenge of the Sith's 3,661 theaters showed the motion picture at midnight, with those 3,661 venues receiving over 9,000 prints, making the movie one of the most highly circulated releases of all time. The previous Star Wars episode, Attack of the Clones, which also opened on a Thursday, earned $6.2 million during its premiere midnight showing in over 1,400 theaters in 2002. That contributed to a then record weekday gross of $30.1 million.

Last May's Shrek 2 holds the single day record with $44.8 million at 4,163 theaters on its fourth day of release (a Saturday), while Spider-Man 2 is the current opening day champ with $40.4 million at 4,152 theaters. Because the midnight showings, though perceived by many as occurring on Wednesday night, were actually shown on Thursday, May 19, they will be counted towards Revenge of the Sith's opening day gross.

Among other recent event pictures, The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King rang up $8 million at about 2,100 theaters on its opening midnight in 2003, which led to a $34.5 million first day. In 2002, Spider-Man did around $7 million on its way to a then record $39.4 million opening day.

[Zenithian Legend]

records like that are so meaningless now as ticket prices continue to rise and rise

*spoilers... seriously the whole thread just has spoilers, can we stop with the warnings now?*

oh, and jlarlee, great explanation for the Emperor actually showing emotion towards Anakin and his charred body towards the end.

Few more crazy horse questions

I want to know is why when Anakin first rises as Darth Vader (in full suit) he has James Earl Jones' voice saying "Yes Master" but then he quickly reverts back to Hayden's voice when asking about Padme. Can anyone clear that up for me?

And the Darth (started with a P I think) lord that Sidious spoke of with the ability to manipulate life and death, that was eventually killed by his disciple in his sleep... the disciple was Sidious correct? And what was the Darth lord's name as I can't seem to recall it.

[thingsfallnapart]

The only problem i have with revenge of the sith is the exact reason i enjoyed it so much. It gives you a reason to feel for anakin. Gives you reason to agree with the path he choose, it makes him look less like a villain, and why he always had that good in him to destroy palpatine in return of the jedi.

Revenge of the sith defintly gave you a great part of the star wars movies story. and if you watch the original triliogy over again, you can't help but smile at some of the parts in the movie because now you know things you didnt before.

so what was the downside of 'sith' ? the fact that maybe now its harder to view vader as a true villian...

[thingsfallnapart]

Add on...

i kinda wish star wars movies touched more on the dark side, and the sith. You have to play KOTOR before you understand the ways of the sith, and their code, and in esscense you find they are just as powerful and similiar in many ways. Only one difference in all my star wars expierence do i notice....The Jedi like raising others to become them. The Sith likes raising others to surpass them. And both sides take a ton of pride in themselves.

[Zenithian Legend]

The only problem i have with revenge of the sith is the exact reason i enjoyed it so much. It gives you a reason to feel for anakin. Gives you reason to agree with the path he choose, it makes him look less like a villain, and why he always had that good in him to destroy palpatine in return of the jedi.

Revenge of the sith defintly gave you a great part of the star wars movies story. and if you watch the original triliogy over again, you can't help but smile at some of the parts in the movie because now you know things you didnt before.

so what was the downside of 'sith' ? the fact that maybe now its harder to view vader as a true villian...

I mentioned that to as my only gripe, they de-villify Vader to a certain extent; especially with all the marketing jibba-jabba surrounding this movie. I think showing him killing the younglings may have been more effective in conveying how evil he had become, but then again there were sure to be tons of youngsters at the film, so that probably wouldn't have been too appropriate.

I'm to assume that Lucas wanted you to see things as to why Anakin could turn to the darkside, and how Anakin justified turning to the Sith as staying loyal to the Republic. The turn was also so avoidable, had the Jedi (Windu in particular) trusted Anakin more, that's what makes this movie such a great tragedy.

Er... I guess I lied my second problem with the movie is it left me wanting more, it's sad that this may be the end of the Star Wars movies. I'd be all for seeing another three somewhere down the road. Oh, I'm sure it'll happen within the next ten years, regardless of what Lucas says today.

[Scrubking]

!!SPOILER!!

The turn was also so avoidable, had the Jedi (Windu in particular) trusted Anakin more, that's what makes this movie such a great tragedy.

The Jedi couldn't put their trust in someone who they knew was buddy buddy with someone they were spying on. And even if they did trust him who's to say he wouldn't have turned anyways to learn how to save his wife?? Anakin became a slave to his prescience and it all went downhill from there.

So no I don't feel sorry for vader and I still see him as a villian. He may be a conflicted villian, but he's still a villian.

[Zenithian Legend]

back to these though...


Few more crazy horse questions

I want to know is why when Anakin first rises as Darth Vader (in full suit) he has James Earl Jones' voice saying "Yes Master" but then he quickly reverts back to Hayden's voice when asking about Padme. Can anyone clear that up for me?

And the Darth (started with a P I think) lord that Sidious spoke of with the ability to manipulate life and death, that was eventually killed by his disciple in his sleep... the disciple was Sidious correct? And what was the Darth lord's name as I can't seem to recall it.

[Backlash]

Yes, Sidious killed his master. I forget the name though.

Another question: why was the Jedi council (mostly Windu) so shocked when they learned that Palpatine is Sidious? Obi-wan had already told them that Dooku had told him that the leader of the senate was a Sith lord (in Episode 2), so they should have been kind of on the lookout. As soon as Anakin confirmed it, they should have moved against Sidious in force, not with one lousy Jedi.

[guyver2077]

on the way to see it for a second time...god i love this movie

[jlarlee]

records like that are so meaningless now as ticket prices continue to rise and rise

*spoilers... seriously the whole thread just has spoilers, can we stop with the warnings now?*

oh, and jlarlee, great explanation for the Emperor actually showing emotion towards Anakin and his charred body towards the end.

Few more crazy horse questions

I want to know is why when Anakin first rises as Darth Vader (in full suit) he has James Earl Jones' voice saying "Yes Master" but then he quickly reverts back to Hayden's voice when asking about Padme. Can anyone clear that up for me?

And the Darth (started with a P I think) lord that Sidious spoke of with the ability to manipulate life and death, that was eventually killed by his disciple in his sleep... the disciple was Sidious correct? And what was the Darth lord's name as I can't seem to recall it.


#1 With the voice change I think hearing Haydens voice asking about Padme is the last of Anakin speaking. once he finds out she is dead he makes his full transformation to darth vader and the little bit of Anakin is hidden deep and doesn't come out until ROTJ

#2 I am about 99% sure that Sidious is that apprentice who killed his master with the special power. it would explain him living so long.I believe his masters name began with a c and was something like carbolous or something similar

[Zman310]

Yes, Sidious killed his master. I forget the name though.

Another question: why was the Jedi council (mostly Windu) so shocked when they learned that Palpatine is Sidious? Obi-wan had already told them that Dooku had told him that the leader of the senate was a Sith lord (in Episode 2), so they should have been kind of on the lookout. As soon as Anakin confirmed it, they should have moved against Sidious in force, not with one lousy Jedi.

Yeah, but Obi-Wan thought that Dooku was just bullshitting him, if you remember he tells Dooku "I don't believe you". He still probably should've checked it out, just in case Dooku wasn't lying (since he wasn't), but I guess he didn't.

And the Jedi kept talking about how the power of the dark side was continually clouding everything, Palpatine must have just used the dark side to mask his power until the time was right.

[Backlash]

Darth Plagueis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darth_Sidious

[jlarlee]

Yes, Sidious killed his master. I forget the name though.

Another question: why was the Jedi council (mostly Windu) so shocked when they learned that Palpatine is Sidious? Obi-wan had already told them that Dooku had told him that the leader of the senate was a Sith lord (in Episode 2), so they should have been kind of on the lookout. As soon as Anakin confirmed it, they should have moved against Sidious in force, not with one lousy Jedi.
In defense of the one jedi Mace did bring three other Jedi with him and he was arguably one of the most powerful jedi.Sidious wa s amaster Sith and probably twisted the force so that they could not piuck up on him, plus I don't see them giving Dooku's words 100% merit

[Backlash]

Yeah, but Obi-Wan thought that Dooku was just bullshitting him, if you remember he tells Dooku "I don't believe you". He still probably should've checked it out, just in case Dooku wasn't lying (since he wasn't), but I guess he didn't.

Oh I wouldn't expect them to believe Dooku the first time, but by now they knew Palpatine was up to something (though they weren't sure what) and the confirmation by Anakin should have set off the alarm bells.

[Backlash]

In defense of the one jedi Mace did bring three other Jedi with him and he was arguably one of the most powerful jedi.Sidious wa s amaster Sith and probably twisted the force so that they could not piuck up on him, plus I don't see them giving Dooku's words 100% merit

Oh yeah I forgot about the other 3 Jedi. Good point. Man they all died in like 2 seconds though.

[jlarlee]

!!SPOILER!!



The Jedi couldn't put their trust in someone who they knew was buddy buddy with someone they were spying on. And even if they did trust him who's to say he wouldn't have turned anyways to learn how to save his wife?? Anakin became a slave to his prescience and it all went downhill from there.

So no I don't feel sorry for vader and I still see him as a villian. He may be a conflicted villian, but he's still a villian.

he turned on the group that raised him and his master who was like his brother because someone talked to him about a special power. Plus he never listened to anybody when they tried to direct him I feel absolutely no sympathy for Anakin at all.

[jlarlee]

Oh I wouldn't expect them to believe Dooku the first time, but by now they knew Palpatine was up to something (though they weren't sure what) and the confirmation by Anakin should have set off the alarm bells.

Yea they did say that the dark side of the force surrounded him

[Zman310]

Darth Plagueis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darth_Sidious

Thank you very much. That name's really been bugging me.

Okay, just wanted to throw this out there: Did anyone else get the sense that, when Palpatine told the story about Plagueis and talked about him being able to create life out of the Force, he was implying that it was Plagueis who had used the Force to impregnate Shmi Skywalker with Anakin, probably meaning that Anakin's entire life was the heart of one massive Sith plot to overthrow the Jedi? That's the impression that I got.

[jlarlee]

Thank you very much. That name's really been bugging me.

Okay, just wanted to throw this out there: Did anyone else get the sense that, when Palpatine told the story about Plagueis and talked about him being able to create life out of the Force, he was implying that it was Plagueis who had used the Force to impregnate Shmi Skywalker with Anakin, probably meaning that Anakin's entire life was the heart of one massive Sith plot to overthrow the Jedi? That's the impression that I got.

Thats an interesting thought and would further explain Sidious's attachment to Ani.

BTW is the book worth reading does it add anything to the experience?

[YeahRight13]

i cant wait to see this movie its goin to be insane!!!

[Zenithian Legend]

Thanks Backlash, I knew it started with a P, but my mind just failed me on the actual name. And thanks Jlarlee as well, for clearing up any other fuzziness. I must also say that Zman's theory about Shmi being impregnated by Plagueis like Mary was by God, is a very interesting thought indeed. It would make sense though, wouldn't it?

[flybrione]

I thought the movie was great. I saw it last night with my two friends and my Dad (the only movies I can get him to go to I, II and III). We all really enjoyed it and thought some of the dialog was bad, but the effects are really top notch.

It is such a tragedy how such a promising Jedi could turn on so many people especially the one he turned to the dark side to save. He should have listened to Yoda. It really puts everything in perspective and make the all the movies work well together. I need to watch Jedi now!

I wish it was a little longer and had some more scenes with the wookies and the Jedi's getting killed. Maybe there will be some extra content for the DVD.

I am planning to go and see it again after the hype dies down a little.

[ryanbph]

Yes it would make sense, but I don't believe their is anything in the EU about it as of yet...as for reading the books, I am a 1/4 of the way thru...and yes it adds to things....it add a lot more dialog, that helps the story along



*****POSSIBLE BOOK SPOILERS***

for starters, dooku and palpitine had a conversation b4 anakin and ob...they talked about dooku was supposed to kill obi, and let anakin win...dooku would be taken prisoner, and that palpitine would protoct him and free him in time

When obi,anakin, and palpitine return from the rescue, mace and obi have a conversation...mace states he senses the dark side around palpitine and anakin...he tells him that their is a traitor in palpitine inner circle


When padme and anakin first meet up, anakin thinks that padme is acting that way, as she is with another man and he becomes aggressive, and then finds out about the kids


Their was a much bigger dialog between obi, yoda, and mace about what to do...yoda wanted to wait, mace wanted to act on the palpitine...obi mediated, and it seemed mace was upset about that. Obi suggested that he get grivous and see what palpitine do then, as the war should be over then

*******************

Thats some of the scenes where the dialog in the book extended on the situations

[RedvsBlue]

Yes, Sidious killed his master. I forget the name though.

Another question: why was the Jedi council (mostly Windu) so shocked when they learned that Palpatine is Sidious? Obi-wan had already told them that Dooku had told him that the leader of the senate was a Sith lord (in Episode 2), so they should have been kind of on the lookout. As soon as Anakin confirmed it, they should have moved against Sidious in force, not with one lousy Jedi.


Actually what Dooku said was that the Senate was under the control of a Sith lord. There is a bit of a difference there because you can control something without actually being the leader. This is especially true in the world of star wars with jedi mind tricks and mind control.

Also, as someone else mentioned, Dooku said many deceptive things during that encounter. At one point he even told Obi-Wan that if Qui-Gon were alive that he would readily join Dooku in his quest. Dooku said what he did to create doubt and confusion among the Jedi, which worked very well.

[Scrubking]

!!SPOILER!!

Did anyone else notice how Padme was STILL pregnant after she had her babies?? When she is on the funeral procession she still has a pregnant stomach sticking out.

[anonymouswhoami]

Looks like Episode III shattered the single day and opening day box office records with $50 million on Thursday. The previous record holders were Shrek 2 ($44 million - single day record) and Spider-Man 2 ($40 million - opening day record). Projections place the likely weekend take @ $150-160 million in the U.S. alone.

[zewone]

!!SPOILER!!

Did anyone else notice how Padme was STILL pregnant after she had her babies?? When she is on the funeral procession she still has a pregnant stomach sticking out.
I believe they set that up so Darth Vader wouldn't find out about his kids.

[Backlash]

Exactly. They delivered them in secret, and then made her appear pregnant so that everyone would think the babies died with her.

[Zman310]

I believe they set that up so Darth Vader wouldn't find out about his kids.

Makes sense. That bothered me when I saw her still being pregnant at the end, but there is a reasonable explanation after all.

[Kayden]

<spoiler, sorry I just got caught up in the discussion>

I didn't get the Qui-Gon Jin part at the end either... and why doesn't anyone refer to the Emperor as Sidious in the future movies?

1 Why on earth does yoda choose a horrible planet like Dagobah to hide on? Whereas Obi-Wan gets to live on a somewhat civilized one.

2 I disliked some of the dialogue, and the Darth Vader yelling "nooooo" was extremely hilarious and poorly written. It's like Lucas worked so hard on making Yoda/Obi-Wan and Palpatine cool that he disregarded the already established Vader character.

Darth Vader is a bitch.

1- Speculation- far more powerful is Yoda, ergo, perhaps more in need of isolation he is. Also, Obi had to look out for Luke because if he hadn't, there wouldn't be 3 last movies. :lol:

2- This is bothering me. They are not making Vader a pussy and they aren't doing anything out of character. Did you think Vader was a stone cold hardass the second he popped on the suit? They aren't making Vader good, they're making Anakin evil! He just lost his wife, his child (he thought he had 1) and the majority of his body, of course he's going to be upset. Sidius even told him he killed his wife (and therefore his child). Of course hes going to be upset. Think of it this way... Did you act the same in elementary school, high school and when you were 30? I hope not... Vader was growing evil over time. He wasn't so much evil at first as he was desparate to save Padme. The funny/tragic thing is, had he not tried to save her, she wouldn't have needed saving. Childbirth didn't kill her, him 'dying' killed her. If he hadn't betrayed the order everything would have been peachy.

[Kayden]

!SPOILERS!

It's about time that a Star Wars movie feels like a Star Wars movie. This movie feels like it belongs with the last three episodes unlike the first two. The acting and diolog was way better than the first two, and in the action department it destroys all other star wars movies. This movie was great, but I felt that some things should have been better/different:

- Palpatine didn't seem as evil as he should have been as the emperor - especially when he hovers over vader's charred body like if he cares for him.


In his sick, dark little way, he does care about him. Hes his apprentice and his hope for galactic conquest. He has a lot vested in his lively hood. Also, if you recall the story he told about Plagueis, he talked about being able to preserve the life of those he cared about. Sith are capable of love. They just happen to be pretty evil and twisted while doing it.


- The dooku fight was WAAAAAY too short and trivial. He dies so easily that you have to wonder how yoda didn't kill him in the second movie. If yoda can take palpy why couldn't he defeat this guy?

Yoda and Sidius are not master swordsmen. Don't get me wrong, they are pretty damn good, but they rely more on the force. Dooku, Anakin and Windu are more powerful when it comes to physical fighting.



- How can windu defeat palpy, but yoda can't even though yoda is supposed to be the most powerful jedi???

Two things here... One- That fight was more or less staged to have Anakin turn to the darkside. Sidious could have hammered his ass into next week using force powers if he so desired.
Two- (Once again) Yoda is a good fighter, but if you pay attention to the second movie, Anakin says he wants to be as wise as Yoda and as powerful as Windu. Windu could most likely beat Yoda in a light saber match, but Yoda would win in a test of force powers.



- The jedi are killed too easily by the troopers when they turn on them. They constantly dive into hordes of droids shooting at them, but a couple of troopers can easily kill jedi. WTF?


They were turned on spur of the moment while in battle. They were fighting one enemy thinking they had the full support of the clone troopers. They weren't expecting to be shot in the back, so they put all their focus towards the known enemy. However, I do agree that some of them died a bit too easily.



- The whole Chewie/yoda connection was stupid and shouldn't have been done.

I thought it was stupid too... but it was more for the sake of novelty than for actual plot.



- Anakins defeat was lame and anticlimactic. He easily could have just jumped further down where it was safe and continue the fight. And the whole Anakin went crazy angle is stupid. Vader went to the dark side - he didn't lose his senses or go insane. He never would have jumped right into Obiwan's saber like that.

Anakins defeat was the summation of his entire character. Throughout the second and third movies he was nothing but arrogant. Obi Wan had insulted him by saying he should just give up simply because he had the high ground. Obi knew what Anakin's reaction would be. He wouldn't simply hop 6 inches and then walk up the hill to a place higher than Obi. He would feel the urge to flaunt his power and jump the whole way. Obi even said, "Don't do it!" To which Anakin replied, "Don't under-estimate my power"... or something simular.

Even if Anakin wasn't blinded by rage and a hint of insanity... he was still a cocky little shit. That was his downfall. He thought that if he COULD beat Obi that he automatically would. Therefore he tried to upstage and out perform instead of simply just killing him. He wanted to prove how great he was.

As for questioning his sanity... He started having visions of his wife dying. In order to stop that, he sought the aid of his greatest friend and enemy. Who in turn made him kill one of his mentors and several children. Then, when Padme shows up with Obi, he chokes her for believing she betrayed him. The whole scenario reeks of insanity. He murdered dozens out of love.



- The vader yelling scene was beyond dumb and totally out of character.

Not remotely true in the least. The character of Vader hasn't been created yet. At this point in the story, Vader is infantile in his developement. He isn't the ultimate evil being. Hes a young man that was tricked into killing many who cared for him and was led to believe he killed his wife and child shortly before losing both his legs and his last real arm.... and then set on fire...

The more people say they dislike this scene, the more I find reason to like it.

His wife is gone. His child is gone. What little of his body is left is charred to fuckall. Him screaming no is like him renouncing whats left of his humanity and its really his last showing of emotion for 20+ years.



- The news about qui-gon is supposedly so important yet it is hardly given enough attention.

This point was really just thrown in as a last thought, I feel. The story all along is that when someone strong in the force dies, they become part of it... but when these people die you can see them in VI as retaining their individuality. They just covered up this little whole by quickly saying they found a way to be 'immortal'.



- I felt the movie should have ended with the tyranny of the empire beginning with the scene of vader and the emperor looking out the window with the Imperial March playing. The fact that there was no imperial march was a letdown.

I don't know... I'm kinda torn on this. The bleak ending would match the tone of the movie over all. However, showing Luke on Tatooine sheds a bit of hope for the next movie, which afterall is tittled "A New Hope". I feel it makes a better continuity because IV isn't about the tyrany of the empire; its about Luke growing to become the savior of the galaxy.




Still the movie was great and I will watch it again.


A-FUCKIN-MEN!

[js1]

Thank you very much. That name's really been bugging me.

Okay, just wanted to throw this out there: Did anyone else get the sense that, when Palpatine told the story about Plagueis and talked about him being able to create life out of the Force, he was implying that it was Plagueis who had used the Force to impregnate Shmi Skywalker with Anakin, probably meaning that Anakin's entire life was the heart of one massive Sith plot to overthrow the Jedi? That's the impression that I got.


That is a crazy idea! But a good one.

[CaseyRyback]

That is a crazy idea! But a good one.

check out that site Backlash links to and it says Lucas has implied as much when you look up plagious (what ever his name actually is, Backlash has the right name, you just got to copy and paste since he linked to the Darth Sideous

as far as the movie goes, it was really good. Could have been better, but was def. the best of the three

[Zman310]

Why on earth does yoda choose a horrible planet like Dagobah to hide on? Whereas Obi-Wan gets to live on a somewhat civilized one.


I think it had to do with the cave that Luke meets the faux Vader in. It was strong in the dark side of the Force, and I think Yoda set up shop near there so the dark side energy would help mask his presence. Otherwise, it'd be really hard for such a powerful Jedi as Yoda to live anywhere without being detected, I'm sure Vader or the Emperor would have been able to sense him, but a strong dark side presence near Yoda should be able to throw off the abilites of Vader and the Emperor. Of course the real question then is why didn't they decide to investigate this source of dark side energy, since it probably could be useful to them in some way, but I'm probably just thinking too much about this.

[Scrubking]

Maybe yoda is naturally a swamp creature and moved to dagobah cause he was comfortable there?

After seeing the movie I keep thinking of cool things that pop up - like how yoda told Ben to watch over luke. You know what he was planning already even though he didn't say anything. But then again if he was planning it why didn't he train luke when he was younger?? Hmm.

Anyway, I've seen the movie twice already and I don't think I'll see it again, but who knows. How many times are you guys planning on seeing it?

[KrazyKefka]

Maybe yoda is naturally a swamp creature and moved to dagobah cause he was comfortable there?

After seeing the movie I keep thinking of cool things that pop up - like how yoda told Ben to watch over luke. You know what he was planning already even though he didn't say anything. But then again if he was planning it why didn't he train luke when he was younger?? Hmm.

Anyway, I've seen the movie twice already and I don't think I'll see it again, but who knows. How many times are you guys planning on seeing it?

I've seen it twice as well (the midnight showing and this afternoon). I'm not sure if I'll see it again in the theater, but I'm not completely ruling it out either.

[polaricecaves]

I watched it tuesday at midnight. I'm a projectionist so i've been watching scenes for the past two days and i'm kinda sick of it (or very close to being)

anyone else notice right before padme and anakin have one of their apartment scenes Anakin is holding what appears to be a very next gen. hand-held console? for serious

[jlarlee]

I've seen it twice as well (the midnight showing and this afternoon). I'm not sure if I'll see it again in the theater, but I'm not completely ruling it out either.
I may see it again when the crowds die down. Although there are some good movies coming out soon I may not get around to it

[Scrubking]

Okay, so now that it's on record that Obiwan was there for the birth of BOTH Luke AND Leia - why did he tell yoda "that boy's our last hope" to which yoda replies "no, there is another"??????

[Negative]

I liked the part where Obi, Mace and Yoda are going to Kashyyk (sp?) and Obi says "But he is the one." Mace continues w/ "The prophecy has foretold this." Then Yoda says "Or the prophecy has been misread." I guess Anakin did bring balance to the force, in favor of the Sith.

[Mr_hockey66]

Well actaually he still does. Just not when we thaught he would. He kills the emperor remember. Thus bringing balance to the force.

[cthcky33]

I watched it tuesday at midnight. I'm a projectionist so i've been watching scenes for the past two days and i'm kinda sick of it (or very close to being)

anyone else notice right before padme and anakin have one of their apartment scenes Anakin is holding what appears to be a very next gen. hand-held console? for serious

i noticed that too. im pretty sure he was holding a gizmondo?!?!?! o those tricky product placement people.... or it just looked like one

[organicow]

Okay, so now that it's on record that Obiwan was there for the birth of BOTH Luke AND Leia - why did he tell yoda "that boy's our last hope" to which yoda replies "no, there is another"??????
I think its because Luke has already been partially trained, and Obi & Yoda know that the time is almost right for the Emp and DV to be brought down. Even though they both know about Leia, I think Obi has kinda written her off as incapable of being trained and prepared quickly enough to do anything if Luke gets whacked. Remember also that when Obi later explains things to Luke, he knows all about Leia and makes it clear that splitting them up and hiding them was the plan all along.
Well, that's my explanation anyway - who knows if it's "right." In reality the whole thing was set up to tease the viewer into wondering who 'the other' was going to be.

[Kayden]

The way I thought of him balancing the force was by killing the jedi. The prophecy didn't say anything about the chosen one destroying the sith, merely balancing the force. At this point in time there were only a few sith scattered throughout the galaxy. After Anakin turns, he kills most of the Jedi, leaving only a few spread throughout the galaxy. Theres the Emperor and Vader and Yoda and Obi Wan. Sounds balanced to me.

[Backlash]

The way I thought of him balancing the force was by killing the jedi. The prophecy didn't say anything about the chosen one destroying the sith, merely balancing the force. At this point in time there were only a few sith scattered throughout the galaxy. After Anakin turns, he kills most of the Jedi, leaving only a few spread throughout the galaxy. Theres the Emperor and Vader and Yoda and Obi Wan. Sounds balanced to me.

That's the way I understood it, too. Also thanks for the great reply to all of scrubking's questions - that cleared some stuff up and I think the movie makes more sense now.

[Dead of Knight]

i noticed that too. im pretty sure he was holding a gizmondo?!?!?! o those tricky product placement people.... or it just looked like one

I thought it looked like an N-Gage.

[CaseyRyback]

personally I thought it was one of those "control your whole house" remotes that all the rich people on shows like Cribs have.

it looked too small to be a handheld

[Ozzkev55]

personally I thought it was one of those "control your whole house" remotes that all the rich people on shows like Cribs have.

it looked too small to be a handheld
Just saw it...i said its a PS3P, oh yeah the future

[zewone]

Just saw it...i said its a PS3P, oh yeah the future
Its actually, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

[Ozzkev55]

Its actually, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
Yeah, i figured, though i always marveled at the seamless transition of the english language to a far away galaxy

Anyone know why in "New Hope", obi wan disappears, instead of getting his torso sliced in half by vader?

[CaseyRyback]

Yeah, i figured, though i always marveled at the seamless transition of the english language to a far away galaxy

Anyone know why in "New Hope", obi wan disappears, instead of getting his torso sliced in half by vader?

lack of funds and a lack of availability of the technology as far as special effects are concerned. Similar to Jabba being an actual person in the first star wars and a fat POS in the other movies

[FriskyTanuki]

Episode 3 kicked ass. Though there were some immature assholes acting much worse than this baby in front of us. Too bad it wasn't rated R so even they wouldn't have gotten in.

[$hady]

I'm not a huge Star Wars fan but i really liked the movie. I haven't seen the original 3 since i was a kid and just did see Episode 1 for the first time 2 weeks ago, Episode 2 last weekend and Episode 3 yesterday. Now i wanna watch the original ones over again.

[Negative]

lack of funds and a lack of availability of the technology as far as special effects are concerned. Similar to Jabba being an actual person in the first star wars and a fat POS in the other movies

I'd imagine it was more toward Obi becoming one w/ the force,I mean, he let Vader do him in. Even after he disappears, Vader kicks his clothes around in a dumbfounded way. Casey, by the "first star wars" do you mean Episode 1 or Episode 4? I cant remember Jabba as an actual person?

[crazytalkx]

I'd imagine it was more toward Obi becoming one w/ the force,I mean, he let Vader do him in. Even after he disappears, Vader kicks his clothes around in a dumbfounded way. Casey, by the "first star wars" do you mean Episode 1 or Episode 4? I cant remember Jabba as an actual person?

Thats what I thought about Obi too. That he "teleported" into the force and I don't ever remember seeing Jabba as a human except on a documentary/making of.

[Ozzkev55]

So anyone know of any good EU books, like any good must reads?

EDIT: Just how many Expanded Universe books are there, after seeing the sheer amount, im thinking about buying some star wars books instead of a xbox360 :)

[CaseyRyback]

I'd imagine it was more toward Obi becoming one w/ the force,I mean, he let Vader do him in. Even after he disappears, Vader kicks his clothes around in a dumbfounded way. Casey, by the "first star wars" do you mean Episode 1 or Episode 4? I cant remember Jabba as an actual person?

before they re did Episode 4 Jabba was a person (a lot of it probably had to do with the moving of the character, since Jabba remains fairly stationary in the other movies).

and him becoming one with the force is a possibility, though I still think technology had something to do with it.

[Greetard]

But I felt the building of the Death Star should've been the last thing shown.


I was thinking the same thing. They could have played the imperial march in the background too.

[Ozzkev55]

I was thinking the same thing. They could have played the imperial march in the background too.
The Metallica Version...To Kick Serious Ass

[mookiemeister]

For those people who have seen the latest Star Wars movie, is it better than the previous 2 movies? Is it better than the original trilogy?

[WhipSmartBanky]

before they re did Episode 4 Jabba was a person (a lot of it probably had to do with the moving of the character, since Jabba remains fairly stationary in the other movies).

and him becoming one with the force is a possibility, though I still think technology had something to do with it.
Originally Lucas wanted to replace the "person" Jabba with a stop motion creature but they ran out of money and time. The scene was cut and never appeared in the movie.

[jlarlee]

before they re did Episode 4 Jabba was a person (a lot of it probably had to do with the moving of the character, since Jabba remains fairly stationary in the other movies).

and him becoming one with the force is a possibility, though I still think technology had something to do with it.
Its him becoming one with the force. it is the trick Yoda tells him to learn at the end of episode 3. Yoda died in the same fashion. While the original reason for it wa sprob lack of funds they had plenty of money by Episode 6 but he had Yoda die like that too to turn into a plot device

[KrazyKefka]

For those people who have seen the latest Star Wars movie, is it better than the previous 2 movies? Is it better than the original trilogy?

Better than the previous 2? Yes
Better than the OT? No
It's definitely worth seeing IMHO.

[2poor]

i just saw it last night and it was worth waiting in line outside to get into the theatre.

[CaseyRyback]

Originally Lucas wanted to replace the "person" Jabba with a stop motion creature but they ran out of money and time. The scene was cut and never appeared in the movie.

I thought it did, but I guess I was wrong. It has been forever since I saw the original cuts of the Star Wars movies, and I guess it was one of those things that they showed the side by side of and it stuck in my mind that he was in the original (another reascon could be because I remember watching the episode IV on TV many many years ago and seeing Han talking to the human Jabba, though it could be my mind playing tricks on me)

[Kaijufan]

Better than the previous 2? Yes
Better than the OT? No
It's definitely worth seeing IMHO.
I totally agree.

[Spruce]

****Spoilers****

I can also see why my brother doesn't want to take his kids to it, cause you know when you see Anakin switch on the lightsaber near the kids what was implied.

***End of Spoilers*****

Too bad more people don't feel the same way. There were at least a dozen kids in the showing I went to...and all of 'em were sitting within a 20 seat radius of me. Young ones too, under 7 easily. Damned heathens wouldn't sit still or stay quiet. I actually laughed (quite loudly at that) when that youngling was all like "what are we gonna do?" And Anakin's reply was http://www.crovortex.com/images/forum/icons/lightsaber.gif

...my only gripe, they de-villify Vader to a certain extent...

I thought so too...but then I remembered this:

http://img76.echo.cx/img76/5132/king29hc.jpg

If that ain't evil I don't know what is.

Found this game when lookin' for that pic:

20 Questions with Darth Vader (http://www.sithsense.com)

[oNeWiNgEdAnGeL]

I liked it. I watched Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace yesterday and Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones this morning for the first time, so going' into Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith tonight, I was pumped. I don't want to get into a review, so I'll just say that I really enjoyed everything in the film. I may write an indepth review when I don't feel lazy.

However, I will say this, clapping and shouting in the movie theatres is becoming ridiculous. It is not only annoying, but pointless. Your clapping at a movie screen, and your shouting at no one. I will definitely write an indepth rant about the matter to vent my anger when I don't feel lazy.

[2poor]

oh god you had those inconsiderate bastards too? they clapped whenever R2 or yoda did anything "cool". and they'd yell out "FUCK YEAH" every once in a while. it got so fucken annoying

[FriskyTanuki]

oh god you had those inconsiderate bastards too? they clapped whenever R2 or yoda did anything "cool". and they'd yell out "FUCK YEAH" every once in a while. it got so fucken annoying
I got stupid immature fucks that would yell out "Tounge!" or "Show your boobs!" when Anakin and Padme were kissing and whatnot. They would make stupid, immature jokes throughout the whole fucking movie and I know there were plenty of people around us that thought the same damn thing. I would've yelled at them to shut the hell up if it wasn't for the fact that I just wanted to watch the movie and not start any shit.

[anonymouswhoami]

However, I will say this, clapping and shouting in the moive theatres is becoming ridiculous. It is not only annoying, but pointless. Your clapping at a movie screen, and your shouting at no one. I will definitely write an indepth rant about the matter to vent my anger when I don't feel lazy.

This is, by far, the reason I hate going to the movies. I used to go weekly as a teenager, but now average a movie every 2-3 months. Combine obnoxious theatre patrons with outrageous snack prices and 20 minutes of commercials before the movie, and it's no wonder people choose to stay home. With HD DVDs and larger digital televisions on the horizon, the movie theatre industry is in trouble.

[thingsfallnapart]

This is, by far, the reason I hate going to the movies. I used to go weekly as a teenager, but now average a movie every 2-3 months. Combine obnoxious theatre patrons with outrageous snack prices and 20 minutes of commercials before the movie, and it's no wonder people choose to stay home. With HD DVDs and larger digital televisions on the horizon, the movie theatre industry is in trouble.

up here in seattle its 12 bucks to see a movie, combine it with the gas to get to the theather, its about 25 bucks for two people. much more worth buying on dvd in 8 monthes.

[Sk]

For those people who have seen the latest Star Wars movie, is it better than the previous 2 movies? Is it better than the original trilogy?
Its way better than the first two in the NT. I thought its better than Return of the Jedi in the OT. ROTJ is my least favorite of the OT.

[cgpwns]

This is, by far, the reason I hate going to the movies. I used to go weekly as a teenager, but now average a movie every 2-3 months. Combine obnoxious theatre patrons with outrageous snack prices and 20 minutes of commercials before the movie, and it's no wonder people choose to stay home. With HD DVDs and larger digital televisions on the horizon, the movie theatre industry is in trouble.

Snack prices are outrageous because thats how the theater makes its money, not the tickets. You can get a refund or an exchange for your ticket stub if people are being too loud. We had problems with both Boogeyman and Diary of a Mad black Woman on weekends. They would sell out and the people were rude as shaq fu.

I agree, movies are too expensive. I'd rather buy a DVD anyday.

As for HD-DVD, that really pisses me off. I don't want to keep having to abandon media formats every few years. I have lots of DVDs and DVD devices, so unless Blu ray or Hd-dvd is backwards compatible with my DVDs (without a crappy combo unit) then they can shaq fu themselves.

[Backlash]

So anyone know of any good EU books, like any good must reads?

EDIT: Just how many Expanded Universe books are there, after seeing the sheer amount, im thinking about buying some star wars books instead of a xbox360 :)

I think there are 27 books, plus comics. Though I've heard some of them aren't really "necessary" (i.e. tell the main story, they just go off on stupid tangents) and some of them are horrible reads (several diff authors wrote them).

[WAJedi]

There are many more than 27 EU books. Hell, the New Jedi Order is probably more than 10. Most of them are pretty good, there are some exceptions to the rule however.

[WAJedi]

Oh, as for good ones, all of the Timmothy Zahn ones are amazing. Otherwise just find a timeline of them (check inside of a hardcover SW Book...one of the more recent ones) and start at the beginning. I read them all in chronological order. I know, i'm a geek.

[CaseyRyback]

Snack prices are outrageous because thats how the theater makes its money, not the tickets. You can get a refund or an exchange for your ticket stub if people are being too loud. We had problems with both Boogeyman and Diary of a Mad black Woman on weekends. They would sell out and the people were rude as shaq fu.

I agree, movies are too expensive. I'd rather buy a DVD anyday.

As for HD-DVD, that really pisses me off. I don't want to keep having to abandon media formats every few years. I have lots of DVDs and DVD devices, so unless Blu ray or Hd-dvd is backwards compatible with my DVDs (without a crappy combo unit) then they can shaq fu themselves.

both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players are going to be fully comp. with DVD's

[WAJedi]

!!SPOILER!!

Did anyone else notice how Padme was STILL pregnant after she had her babies?? When she is on the funeral procession she still has a pregnant stomach sticking out.


Didn't see if this was replied to or not. I was talking with a friend at work about this, and we decided that it was so that everyone would think that the babies had died with her. The only people who knew who the father was were Yoda, Obi, and Bail. If Vader/Palpy thought that the babies died in birth, they wouldnt look for them. That is why when Vader and Palpatine are talking about the son of Skywalker, Vader wonders "how can that be true?"

[zewone]

oh god you had those inconsiderate bastards too? they clapped whenever R2 or yoda did anything "cool". and they'd yell out "FUCK YEAH" every once in a while. it got so fucken annoying
Same here. Annoying as fuck.

[Kayden]

Its just a shame R2D2 wasn't as bad ass in the original movies. Whered all the functionality go?

Why doesnt Obi Wan Recognize the droids? Is he just hiding the fact to avoid more questions?

[Ozzkev55]

I suddenly feel the urge to buy Star Wars books, so what is in your opinion the best Expanded Universe book?

I plan on buying all of the books, so i am thinking of readint the young adult novels chronilogically after, I read the adult novels chronologically, is this a good idea?

Is there a book(s) that I should stay away from?

[Sk]

Its just a shame R2D2 wasn't as bad ass in the original movies. Whered all the functionality go?

Why doesnt Obi Wan Recognize the droids? Is he just hiding the fact to avoid more questions?
Simple reason as to why obi wan never recognize the droids was from the fact that so many of them had been reproduced over the years. R2D2 is a really common droid and the very thought of such an old droid being around and functional would be quite outlandish. C3PO was a newer model in the NT but towards the beginning of the OT he too had been mass produced. At least thats my educated guess as to why no one recognizes them.

[zewone]

I think its because Lucas didn't plan it out well enough. :)

[Kaijufan]

Its just a shame R2D2 wasn't as bad ass in the original movies. Whered all the functionality go?

Why doesnt Obi Wan Recognize the droids? Is he just hiding the fact to avoid more questions?
My guess is that Obi Wan did recognize the droids, but decided not to admit it for some reason. Plus, IIRC Obi Wan only says that he never owned any droids in ANH (and he never did own R2D2 or C3P0 as far as we know), but he never said that he didn't recognize them.

[Saucy Jack]

I agree, movies are too expensive. I'd rather buy a DVD anyday.

As for HD-DVD, that really pisses me off. I don't want to keep having to abandon media formats every few years. I have lots of DVDs and DVD devices, so unless Blu ray or Hd-dvd is backwards compatible with my DVDs (without a crappy combo unit) then they can shaq fu themselves.

Agreed as well. Hell, I'd rather just watch a movie on DVD instead of the theater. Plus, you can eat/drink whatever you want, and pause the program if necessary. Plus, with a killer setup, it blows the theater quality away.

I consider myself a technology lover, but I am not excited about the new media formats, either. I mean, I don't see how picture quality of a film can get much better. I'm already happy with progressive scan 16x9 (which is 480p, if I'm not mistaken) on my 16x9 HD TVs. Also, the only improvement you can give the audio portion is to increase the bitrate (for example, make a full-bitrate DTS track like on the 2-disc Hong Kong release of "Hero").

I'm already playing certain Xbox games in 720p and 1080i formats, and while they look stunning, I don't really see how things will get any better. Sure, you may be able to see tiny details and such more clearly, but that's it.

Maybe when I actually see a next-gen media disc in action, I'll be more likely to adopt it. I remember hearing about DVDs when they first came out, and wondering about them. Went to a friend's house and watched "Blade" and saw the menus, and was like, "What the hell is this? Menus? Commentary tracks? Deleted scenes? Wow!" Then, I told my father about DVDs, and he was skeptical. We went to an electronics store, and they had a state of the art setup there. We asked them to play a DVD for us, and they put on "Eraser." The picture quality was outstanding, and we were constantly turning our heads because of the 5.1 surround. That way, we bought a DVD player.

Also, I never bought VHS tapes when VHS was king. With DVDs, it became easier to collect, and I now have about 800 DVDs. I don't want to have to collect movies all over again... :(

[hobocorpses]

whew...after reading this long and quickly growing thread I'll finally make some comments...
Thank you very much. That name's really been bugging me.

Okay, just wanted to throw this out there: Did anyone else get the sense that, when Palpatine told the story about Plagueis and talked about him being able to create life out of the Force, he was implying that it was Plagueis who had used the Force to impregnate Shmi Skywalker with Anakin, probably meaning that Anakin's entire life was the heart of one massive Sith plot to overthrow the Jedi? That's the impression that I got.
Yeah...thats pretty much the same thing I got from that conversation...I dont know about it being "one massive plot" but definitely thought it showed how Anikan came to be.

Secondly about cheering before and after the movie...I always thought this was a weird thing. Do you think when everyone does this the projectionist feels proud? I can just picture him up their taking a bow w/ a little tear running down his cheek.

And lastly a lot of you were wondering why Anikan stopped burning. I didn't find this hard to comprehend at all, I think it was just his clothes that started on fire and eventually burned themselves out, or melted to his skin. It's not as if he was soaked in gasoline.

[Greetard]

Agreed as well. Hell, I'd rather just watch a movie on DVD instead of the theater. Plus, you can eat/drink whatever you want, and pause the program if necessary. Plus, with a killer setup, it blows the theater quality away.

I consider myself a technology lover, but I am not excited about the new media formats, either. I mean, I don't see how picture quality of a film can get much better. I'm already happy with progressive scan 16x9 (which is 480p, if I'm not mistaken) on my 16x9 HD TVs. Also, the only improvement you can give the audio portion is to increase the bitrate (for example, make a full-bitrate DTS track like on the 2-disc Hong Kong release of "Hero").

I'm already playing certain Xbox games in 720p and 1080i formats, and while they look stunning, I don't really see how things will get any better. Sure, you may be able to see tiny details and such more clearly, but that's it.

Maybe when I actually see a next-gen media disc in action, I'll be more likely to adopt it. I remember hearing about DVDs when they first came out, and wondering about them. Went to a friend's house and watched "Blade" and saw the menus, and was like, "What the hell is this? Menus? Commentary tracks? Deleted scenes? Wow!" Then, I told my father about DVDs, and he was skeptical. We went to an electronics store, and they had a state of the art setup there. We asked them to play a DVD for us, and they put on "Eraser." The picture quality was outstanding, and we were constantly turning our heads because of the 5.1 surround. That way, we bought a DVD player.

Also, I never bought VHS tapes when VHS was king. With DVDs, it became easier to collect, and I now have about 800 DVDs. I don't want to have to collect movies all over again... :(

800 FREAKIN' HUNDRED!?

[trytej]

star wars was great

[tauruskatt]

awesome movie ^___^

[jlarlee]

And lastly a lot of you were wondering why Anikan stopped burning. I didn't find this hard to comprehend at all, I think it was just his clothes that started on fire and eventually burned themselves out, or melted to his skin. It's not as if he was soaked in gasoline.

good point

[cgpwns]

both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players are going to be fully comp. with DVD's

phew, thats good to hear.

[Snake2715]

Well guys without turning to a complete lunatic over this series the small questions I had were answered. I am currently rewatching the first two so i can go back and rewatch the 3rd one. Then I will finish with the last four in sequence to complete the current series.

I am to dissappointed that it may be the last of the series. I remember being in 9th grade thinking about they year 2005 and how cool it was going to be to go watch the new movies...

Now I am hoping that by 2015 we will be finishng the last 3 of the series. The problem becomes that there really is no known characters to follow into the last installment trilogy.

[Kayden]

Lucas said he wont do it and he wont allow anyone else to, even after he dies.

[Backlash]

I re-watched Episode 4 over the weekend, and I was surprised by both the things that seemed to fit very well between 3 and 4, as well as the things that didn't. As someone said previously, Obi-Wan not recognizing R2D2 was dumb - he fought with him all the time and R2 saved his ass big-time in Episode 3 (when they were "rescuing" Palpatine).

[Kayden]

I forgot how truely amazing the OT was. I watched ANH last night. Everything about it is amazing. The acting is subtle and not over the top. The special effects are amazing considering the age. The story is easy to take in but complex enough to delve as deep as you want. It had a been a while since I saw the last 3 before the new 3. Now I see why everyone was so disapointed.

[willardhaven]

I thought of Anakin as "bringing balance to the force by defeating the sith" by conceiving Luke, as he overtakes Vader and the Emperor (with the help of Anakin) in Ep. 6.

Just a thought.

The R2 thing with Obi-Wan is strange, as he does have a relationship with the droid in Ep.3.

[Kayden]

I thought of Anakin as "bringing balance to the force by defeating the sith" by conceiving Luke, as he overtakes Vader and the Emperor (with the help of Anakin) in Ep. 6.


Whiping out the sith isn't balancing. The force has a light side and a dark side. Bringing balance to the force would imply making both sides of equal power.

[spoo]

$158 million in its first four days of release!!!

[willardhaven]

Whiping out the sith isn't balancing. The force has a light side and a dark side. Bringing balance to the force would imply making both sides of equal power.


That makes more sense, but I was just going with what was said in episode 3 by Windu, hence my using quotation marks.

[Xevious]

I saw the movie last night and I enjoyed it.

SPOILERS***(Are we still announcing Spoilers at this point?????)

One thing that I didnt understand is why didn't Obi-Wan finish off Anakin at the end. I understand why Obi-Wan didnt want to kill Anakin (he was his friend) but he did say that he had to remove the Sith threat.

Anakin was still alive and in pain at the end of the volcano fight. If I were Obi-Wan, I would of put him out of his misery.

Just my two cents....

[Backlash]

I forgot how truely amazing the OT was. I watched ANH last night. Everything about it is amazing. The acting is subtle and not over the top. The special effects are amazing considering the age. The story is easy to take in but complex enough to delve as deep as you want. It had a been a while since I saw the last 3 before the new 3. Now I see why everyone was so disapointed.

I don't know. When I rewatched 4, it felt like nothing much really happened in the movie. They wander around Tatooine for quite awhile, then they go to the Death Star and spend a long time rescuing the Princess, and then they attack the Death Star. It felt more like "Hey look! Droids are sweet! The Froce is in all of us!" etc, rather than having a really great, moving plot. I think Episode 5 is where it really started getting good. I mean, some of those scenes with R2D2 and C3PO were so slow and drawn-out, and I'm guessing it was just b/c it was 1977?

[RedvsBlue]

I re-watched Episode 4 over the weekend, and I was surprised by both the things that seemed to fit very well between 3 and 4, as well as the things that didn't. As someone said previously, Obi-Wan not recognizing R2D2 was dumb - he fought with him all the time and R2 saved his ass big-time in Episode 3 (when they were "rescuing" Palpatine).


Think about it like this. They went to great lengths to protect Luke from the real story of his father. I mean they basically lied to him since birth. So if Obi-Wan had said right away, oh yeah I remember these droids, then Luke would have started to ask even more questions about the past and what had happened.

[jlarlee]

I saw the movie last night and I enjoyed it.

SPOILERS***(Are we still announcing Spoilers at this point?????)

One thing that I didnt understand is why didn't Obi-Wan finish off Anakin at the end. I understand why Obi-Wan didnt want to kill Anakin (he was his friend) but he did say that he had to remove the Sith threat.

Anakin was still alive and in pain at the end of the volcano fight. If I were Obi-Wan, I would of put him out of his misery.

Just my two cents....

He didn't because it is wrong for a Jedi to kill an unarmed man. remmeber when Anakin killed Dooku but saying he shouldn't because it wasn't the Jedi way. That right there shows why Obi Wan stayed the course of the light side

[Duo_Maxwell]

He didn't because it is wrong for a Jedi to kill an unarmed man. remmeber when Anakin killed Dooku but saying he shouldn't because it wasn't the Jedi way. That right there shows why Obi Wan stayed the course of the light side

That and he was probably counting on Yoda to win his battle, I mean after what happened to Anikan who would think that he was going to survive anyhow.

[Xevious]

He didn't because it is wrong for a Jedi to kill an unarmed man. remmeber when Anakin killed Dooku but saying he shouldn't because it wasn't the Jedi way. That right there shows why Obi Wan stayed the course of the light side

What about an un-legged man?

(Just joking....)

[Xevious]

That and he was probably counting on Yoda to win his battle, I mean after what happened to Anikan who would think that he was going to survive anyhow.

Yeah. But the point is that his friend is in pain and he was dying anyway. Why not make it quick and put him out of his misery.

Anakin Skywalker was turning out to be the outer space version of Terri Schivo..

[sblymnlcrymnl]

I don't know. When I rewatched 4, it felt like nothing much really happened in the movie. They wander around Tatooine for quite awhile, then they go to the Death Star and spend a long time rescuing the Princess, and then they attack the Death Star. It felt more like "Hey look! Droids are sweet! The Froce is in all of us!" etc, rather than having a really great, moving plot. I think Episode 5 is where it really started getting good. I mean, some of those scenes with R2D2 and C3PO were so slow and drawn-out, and I'm guessing it was just b/c it was 1977?

Yes but it established the characters and universe, that has to count for something.

[ryanbph]

Someone about a page backed asked about the books...I am trying to read them in chronological order...some suggest starting with the thrawn trilogy, set after the OT...I started around xmass time, and have read about 8 or so books...Some have been ok, some have been excellent

[Scrubking]

Think about it like this. They went to great lengths to protect Luke from the real story of his father. I mean they basically lied to him since birth. So if Obi-Wan had said right away, oh yeah I remember these droids, then Luke would have started to ask even more questions about the past and what had happened.

Luke: "So you know these droids?"
Obiwan: "Yeah, 3po was there after I defeated your father and chopped his legs off... oops!"

[Snake2715]

Let me ask this....

Is it going to be released on Imax?

[Backlash]

Yes but it established the characters and universe, that has to count for something. (re: Episode 4)

Oh, it definitely counts for something, and establishing a new universe was probably huge at the time. I just meant that viewing the moview nowadays, it isn't as great as I had hoped it would be or as great as some make it out to be. Episode 5 and 6 are a different story, of course.

[Ozzkev55]

(re: Episode 4)

Oh, it definitely counts for something, and establishing a new universe was probably huge at the time. I just meant that viewing the moview nowadays, it isn't as great as I had hoped it would be or as great as some make it out to be. Episode 5 and 6 are a different story, of course.
The movies greatness is dependant on whether or not Greedo shoots first

[Derwood43]

Let me ask this....

Is it going to be released on Imax?


It is already at the IMAX in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

[Xevious]

Think about it like this. They went to great lengths to protect Luke from the real story of his father. I mean they basically lied to him since birth. So if Obi-Wan had said right away, oh yeah I remember these droids, then Luke would have started to ask even more questions about the past and what had happened.

One more point to add. R2-D2 technically belonged to Anakin Skywalker. Remember he survived while Obi-Wan's droid didn't. This happened in the dogfight in the beginning of Episode 3

So technically, R2-D2 belonged to Anakin.

[Reality's Fringe]

Rf's Official Opinion:

It was good when people weren't talking. Also, that whole scene at the end where Vader ripped out of his bindings and was like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!" made me laugh really hard.

[Scrubking]

When I watched it the second time some idiot had his cell phone go off for like 5 minutes. Then towards the end of the movie some lady felt the need to stand in the middle of the isle and have a conversation with someone.

Also Vader's voice is Jone's the whole time. It just sounds wierd cause he talks in a caring out of character way.

[Zenithian Legend]

really? I thought Vader uses Jones' voice at first, but then switches back to Hayden's to ask about Padme... someone must confirm this in some way or another

[Ozzkev55]

really? I thought Vader uses Jones' voice at first, but then switches back to Hayden's to ask about Padme... someone must confirm this in some way or another
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000469/

[Ozzkev55]

Ahh...now for the goofs
<<<Possible Spoilers>>>
Continuity: Obi-Wan and Yoda review "security recordings" in the Jedi Temple, which show Anakin rising before his new Sith master. Except that exchange didn't happen in the Jedi Temple, it happened in Palapatine's office, and the dialogue was different. Palpatine was never in the Jedi Temple at any point after Anakin swore allegiance to him, though.


Plot holes: When Obi-Wan and Yoda are in the Jedi Temple during the special session of congress resetting the message that is going out to the Jedi, Obi-Wan refers to the Chancellor as "The Emperor". He wouldn't have known that he is now the Emperor as that announcement is happening at the same time.


Continuity: In the first part of the movie when Anakin is trying to land the capital ship that is breaking apart, we can see when he lands its windscreen is intact, however, the robot broke it during the fight beforehand


Continuity: Before Obi Wan fights Anakin, he lets his cape fall to the ground, and it lies all the way across the bottom of the spaceship stairs. In a subsequent shot, it is closer to one end of the stairs.


Continuity: When Anakin is choking Obi-Wan during the duel on Mustafar, the lightsaber hilt Obi-Wan is holding changes from his own to Anakin's between shots.


Factual errors: In the opening battle scenes, the parachutes on the droids would not act as seen, since it is outer space.
<<<Go Home>>>

[Darkside Hazuki]

Continuity: In the first part of the movie when Anakin is trying to land the capital ship that is breaking apart, we can see when he lands its windscreen is intact, however, the robot broke it during the fight beforehand



I distinctly remember checking for this during my second viewing, and the steel shutter was in place when they land. Perhaps not on the descent, but it's definitely there on the ground.

[Zman310]

I was listening closely to Vader's speech when I saw it again today, and I am 99% sure that it is always Jones' voice.


Continuity: Obi-Wan and Yoda review "security recordings" in the Jedi Temple, which show Anakin rising before his new Sith master. Except that exchange didn't happen in the Jedi Temple, it happened in Palapatine's office, and the dialogue was different. Palpatine was never in the Jedi Temple at any point after Anakin swore allegiance to him, though.


This has bugged me both times. The only explanation that I can think of is that it is in fact a hologram of Palpatine that we see Anakin talking too, reporting to Palpatine after he has finished his mission at the Temple. Then again, not much of the security recordings makes sense, they just kind of randomly go from Anakin killing Jedi to showing him with the Emperor without Obi-Wan seeming to make any kind of adjustments to the recording (fast forwarding, etc.)

[Duo_Maxwell]

Well you don't think that the Jedi and some others being suspicious of Palpatine would place surveillence in his office? Seems like the simplest explanation....

[Scrubking]

Ahh...now for the goofs
<<<Possible Spoilers>>>
Continuity: Obi-Wan and Yoda review "security recordings" in the Jedi Temple, which show Anakin rising before his new Sith master. Except that exchange didn't happen in the Jedi Temple, it happened in Palapatine's office, and the dialogue was different. Palpatine was never in the Jedi Temple at any point after Anakin swore allegiance to him, though.


Plot holes: When Obi-Wan and Yoda are in the Jedi Temple during the special session of congress resetting the message that is going out to the Jedi, Obi-Wan refers to the Chancellor as "The Emperor". He wouldn't have known that he is now the Emperor as that announcement is happening at the same time.


Continuity: In the first part of the movie when Anakin is trying to land the capital ship that is breaking apart, we can see when he lands its windscreen is intact, however, the robot broke it during the fight beforehand


Continuity: Before Obi Wan fights Anakin, he lets his cape fall to the ground, and it lies all the way across the bottom of the spaceship stairs. In a subsequent shot, it is closer to one end of the stairs.


Continuity: When Anakin is choking Obi-Wan during the duel on Mustafar, the lightsaber hilt Obi-Wan is holding changes from his own to Anakin's between shots.


Factual errors: In the opening battle scenes, the parachutes on the droids would not act as seen, since it is outer space.
<<<Go Home>>>

I'm sure Lucas will fix those in his next round of edits.

[Zenithian Legend]

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0000469/

What? How does that answer my question...? I wanted to know if they switched voices between Jones, when Vader first rises, back to Hayden, when Vader asks about Padme.


I also need someone to explain this:

http://www.wrestlecrap.com/swholiday.html

[camoor]

These movies are massively overrated. Pretty special effects, but Lucas is a terrible director of actors. Don't get me started on the convulted plots.

Excellent video games, though.

[dcfox]

I also need someone to explain this:

http://www.wrestlecrap.com/swholiday.html
My god that was horrible, and I was only reading through it. I can only imagine how bad it really is if I had actually watched it.

[Saucy Jack]

What? How does that answer my question...? I wanted to know if they switched voices between Jones, when Vader first rises, back to Hayden, when Vader asks about Padme.


It's Jones all the time. If you watch Return of the Jedi, listen to his voice as he says, "Luke, help me take this mask off." It sounds just like Vader in Revenge of the Sith. It just sounds different because Vader isn't as evil and cold when he delivers those lines.

[FriskyTanuki]

My god that was horrible, and I was only reading through it. I can only imagine how bad it really is if I had actually watched it.
I have it on my PC, but I haven't gotten the chance to watch it yet. To give you an idea of it's video quality, it's only 17 MBs for the 1 hour, 45 minute video. Really crappy video, but I'll watch it eventually.

[the3rdkey]

I think it was the best movie ever made.

[onetrackmind]

havent seen it but i want to. I dont think its the ebst movie ever made... taxi driver is way better. ;)

[bignick]

Not the best ever made, but damn good.

[The Successful Dropout]

Not the best ever made, but damn good.

omg, he lives!:bouncy:

[Backlash]

Well you don't think that the Jedi and some others being suspicious of Palpatine would place surveillence in his office? Seems like the simplest explanation....

I also assumed it was a security recording from Palpatine's office. My question at the time was why they didn't try to check the recordings earlier to see what he was was up to.

[thehuskerfan]

I was anticipating so much more... but what I saw on the screen was totally amazing!

[gregthomas77]

Blinded you to the truth your love of Star Wars has. OK, it was better than Eps. I and II, but not as good as any of the original trilogy. The dialogue was BAD, most of the acting was BAD (except for fine performances by Ewan McGregor and CGI Yoda), scenes that should have brought Star Wars fans to tears (The battle between Anakin and Obi Wan and the unveiling of the techno Vader) were reduced to feelingless special effects scenes, and a movie that should of been an instant classic basically became a slightly above average summer flick. So, was it a good movie, eh, maybe, was it what it should have been, no way.

In the trailer, Darth Sidius says "Lord Vader- Rise" as the techno Vader stands for the first time.

SPOILER*************

In the movie, Darth Sidius says "Lord Vader- Can you hear me?". What the fuck? Did Verizon pay for this shit or what?

[kaji7p56]

I think it was the best movie ever made.

I'm glad Citizen Kane was finally de-throned.

[Derwood43]

Blinded you to the truth your love of Star Wars has. OK, it was better than Eps. I and II, but not as good as any of the original trilogy. The dialogue was BAD, most of the acting was BAD (except for fine performances by Ewan McGregor and CGI Yoda), scenes that should have brought Star Wars fans to tears (The battle between Anakin and Obi Wan and the unveiling of the techno Vader) were reduced to feelingless special effects scenes, and a movie that should of been an instant classic basically became a slightly above average summer flick. So, was it a good movie, eh, maybe, was it what it should have been, no way.

In the trailer, Darth Sidius says "Lord Vader- Rise" as the techno Vader stands for the first time.

SPOILER*************

In the movie, Darth Sidius says "Lord Vader- Can you hear me?". What the fuck? Did Verizon pay for this shit or what?

When you say that the acting is bad, you have to look at the previous two films. The acting by Hayden was better, when compared to Ep. II. Ewen, as always, did a wonderful job as Obi-Wan. I would have like to have seen the Emperor played less like a greasy, hand-wringing villian, and more like a human overtaken by the dark side. I felt like his transformation into the Emperor was way too quick. I know that there is some discussion that he always looked and acted like that, and that he was just putting up a mask as the chancellor. I really felt like the movie progressed way, way too fast. All of the fights seemed to fly by (esp. Kenobi v. Grievous).

I found myself trying to explain away some things during the movie. Like Vader acting out of character when he finds out about Padme. It was like I was trying to rationalize Lucas' thoughts.


Also, what scenes are Lucas and the Millenium Falcon in?

[Reality's Fringe]

When you say that the acting is bad, you have to look at the previous two films. The acting by Hayden was better, when compared to Ep. II.

That's like comparing shit to shit that's slightly less stinky.

[Quackzilla]

I have it on my PC, but I haven't gotten the chance to watch it yet. To give you an idea of it's video quality, it's only 17 MBs for the 1 hour, 45 minute video. Really crappy video, but I'll watch it eventually.

The movie was about 2 hours and 15 minutes.

[Backlash]

I found myself trying to explain away some things during the movie. Like Vader acting out of character when he finds out about Padme. It was like I was trying to rationalize Lucas' thoughts.


How was Vader acting out of character? He was pretty much still Anakin at that point - he had just that moment put on the mechanical suit. He still cared about Padme, which was partially why he turned to the dark side. In later movies Vader was completely cold and dark b/c 20 years had passed and everything he once loved was gone.

[Scrubking]

When you say that the acting is bad, you have to look at the previous two films. The acting by Hayden was better, when compared to Ep. II. Ewen, as always, did a wonderful job as Obi-Wan. I would have like to have seen the Emperor played less like a greasy, hand-wringing villian, and more like a human overtaken by the dark side. I felt like his transformation into the Emperor was way too quick. I know that there is some discussion that he always looked and acted like that, and that he was just putting up a mask as the chancellor. I really felt like the movie progressed way, way too fast. All of the fights seemed to fly by (esp. Kenobi v. Grievous).

I found myself trying to explain away some things during the movie. Like Vader acting out of character when he finds out about Padme. It was like I was trying to rationalize Lucas' thoughts.


Also, what scenes are Lucas and the Millenium Falcon in?

When you put Anakin in perspective in accordance with the movies his acting isn't all that bad. In ep1 he was a little kid so what do you expect. In ep2 he was a brattly little teen so him being annoying shouldn't surprise anyone. In ep3 his acting was WAY better and every star wars movie has cheesy lines so ...

And the emporer has always been evil. If you want to see him overtaken by the dark side you would have to make another few prequal movies cause he is supposedly hundreds of years old and has been an evil sith forever.

[Mike23]

Saw it today. Very interesting stuff, especially to me. I ended up hating Anakin so much at the end, so I guess it worked on me.

Padme's excuse for dying sucked. Lost the will to live? Bah.

EDIT: I thought Hayden did an excellent job. Maybe my standards are lower then you guys? :D

[Derwood43]

I can see everyone's point, I just view it differently.


Something I've always wondered though...

Why did a fall down a tunnel kill Palpatine? How many times did the Jedi fall in holes, then just happen to fall in an open door? Why couldn't he have grabbed on to something or used the force to stop himself?

[Derwood43]

That's like comparing shit to shit that's slightly less stinky.


You're useless.:dunce:

Thanks for adding that valuable piece of information to the conversation. Wow, you're sooOOooo witty.

[Theenternal]

I just read the Star wars Christmas special review... i heard it was bad, and I had the rip downloaded but quality was too poor. But after seeing the captures, I really can't beleive how cheesy that is.

[Scrubking]

I can see everyone's point, I just view it differently.


Something I've always wondered though...

Why did a fall down a tunnel kill Palpatine? How many times did the Jedi fall in holes, then just happen to fall in an open door? Why couldn't he have grabbed on to something or used the force to stop himself?

Although powerful with the force palpy was hundreds of years old so he was not very agile. Not to mention that when Vader tossed him he was hitting himself with his own force lightning so he was in a bit of a bind.

[Derwood43]

Although powerful with the force palpy was hundreds of years old so he was not very agile. Not to mention that when Vader tossed him he was hitting himself with his own force lightning so he was in a bit of a bind.

I'll give you the hundreds of years old bit, but the agile part is not true. Don't let the outward appearance fool you. ie, Yoda.

In the battle with the four Jedi, he is quite agile. Likewise, when he is fighting Yoda, he's agile. 20 years to a 300 year old is a drop in the bucket.

[Zman310]

I just read the Star wars Christmas special review... i heard it was bad, and I had the rip downloaded but quality was too poor. But after seeing the captures, I really can't beleive how cheesy that is.

http://www.drinkatwork.com/medlarge268.gif