Revolution Conspiracy Theroies... THE PLOT THICKENS

[Sleepkyng]

CLAP YOU HANDS EVERYONE! CLAP YOUR HANDS!

shit, sorry about the wussy peter pan reference...

[pumbaa]

"We got nothing."

I wasn't sure you were following this thread epobirs. Welcome to the asylum ;) .

[Snake2715]

I wasn't sure you were following this thread epobirs. Welcome to the asylum ;) .


Is this work Pumbaa?

Get you ass to work...

jk

[Scorch]

*Flips Morphiend in the frying pan*

So how do you guys take yours?

[Quillion]

I just left for a few minutes to eat some lunch and watch some Star Trek:TNG.

Does anyone have a link to the gamespot feed of the Reggie confrence in 15 minutes?

[JSweeney]

"We got nothing."

Zip.
Zilch.
Nada.

We've got Nada 3!

:)

[seanw]

Zip.
Zilch.
Nada.

We've got Nada 3!

:)

That spot is pretty funny.

[Snake2715]

Zip.
Zilch.
Nada.

We've got Nada 3!

:)

wait On backwards is NO....

There is NO revolution. That way development costs stay low to Nintendo and current dev houses.

They add online and Super Smash bros 3..

Its the gamecube SP with wireless online... Thats why the controller ports look the same and thats why its backwards compatible.

[SpottedNigel]

SCARY WOMAN! And she's cold! (shudder). I hate livewire now

EDIT the one in the "league" shirt

[dcfox]

Zip.
Zilch.
Nada.

We've got Nada 3!

:)
Well we did get confirmation that a large male was attending the Nintendo conference. That was exciting enough as is. Info on the Rev would have been overkill.

That guy is really fat...i mean, really

[Snake2715]

you know what I just realized is...


CAG doesnt have a revolution section up yet!!!!

OMG maybe Cheapy is in ON it....


It was fun, hopefully something still developes or at least there is some closure and we see if any at all was Nintendos doing with marketing...

[karmapolice]

I understand this is a tense time, and we all want to know what is happening, but this isnt like your trying to find out how the world is going to end, or the secret to life. Its a video game console, can you not wait a couple days or even a few months to find out?

[SpottedNigel]

I understand this is a tense time, and we all want to know what is happening, but this isnt like your trying to find out how the world is going to end, or the secret to life. Its a video game console, can you not wait a couple days or even a few months to find out?

Yes...but then speculation would die...and he would be missed...

[PsyClerk]

you know what I just realized is...


CAG doesnt have a revolution section up yet!!!!

OMG maybe Cheapy is in ON it....

Cheapy did say that there was a big announcement for CAG after E3.

CAG IS the Revolution! OMFG!

[Javery]

I understand this is a tense time, and we all want to know what is happening, but this isnt like your trying to find out how the world is going to end, or the secret to life. Its a video game console, can you not wait a couple days or even a few months to find out?

No!

[Quillion]

I COULD wait... Or.. I could speculate and research and have lots of fun at it.

So shaddup.

[Ozzkev55]

Cheapy did say that there was a big announcement for CAG after E3.

CAG IS the Revolution! OMFG!
whoah...thats deep man

[AdamInPlaidum]

This is all very confusing and very exciting. I personally can't wait for whenever Nintendo decides to blow its load ON us.

[Quillion]

It's like digital crack. It might be bad for me, but I loooove it.

[Quillion]

Sweet, found a stream.

Lick it naysayers!

[Snake2715]

Cheapy did say that there was a big announcement for CAG after E3.

CAG IS the Revolution! OMFG!

Good one!!

maybe its this thrusday at 12:30 during the lunch meeting CAG's are having....!!

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Sweet, found a stream.

Lick it naysayers!

Um, share the goodness?

[Quillion]

Well, he didn't say anything, and it's over. He only briefly discussed revolution.

He wouldn't even confirm that Mario 128 is in production. Very Ghey.

[Quillion]

I think we got owned.

When I wake up tomorrow, there may be a new revolution console. But Right now, I'm gonna go play TimeSplitters on my GCN.

[seanw]

In fact, I heard he specifically dispelled the more-is-coming(-during-E3) hype. Right?

[Grave_Addiction]

My butt hurts.

[Quillion]

Not exactly. He ended the confrence with : "Keep Hanging With Us"

It was a bunch of spin, really vague. I think Reggie is a Douche.

[JSweeney]

Buzz is one thing.
Alienating your fanbase is another.

While the idea is clever for generating buzz, if there ends up being no payoff, this could end up hurting Nintendo a bit more than it would help. People tend to not like being made fools of.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Buzz is one thing.
Alienating your fanbase is another.

While the idea is clever for generating buzz, if there ends up being no payoff, this could end up hurting Nintendo a bit more than it would help. People tend to not like being made fools of.

Well there is no proof that this thing was anything other than a bunch of coincidences. The Nintendo ON video has already been sourced to a guy in Spain. IGN hosts the video on their site on May 13 and then the same day, someone registers a URL to www.nintendoon.com (http://www.nintendoon.com/). That site was registered on May 13 as well, around 5:00 pm (timezone?). So anyone could have registered that site and set the domain redirect to the IGN article.

EDIT: And if Nintendo had registered the domain, why use a privacy service to hide the information?

Some of the stuff that the Aries guy said seemed to come true, but he also stated that the big news would be coming today - which it obviously hasn't. The other stuff, Miyamoto with the helmet, the Nintendo HD-DVD, were photoshopped.

So this was most likely a bunch of speculation fueled by Nintendo fans rabid for a real revolution. We still don't know everything yet, but from the interview with Miyamoto on IGN, I don't know that Nintendo does either.

[Snake2715]

Buzz is one thing.
Alienating your fanbase is another.

While the idea is clever for generating buzz, if there ends up being no payoff, this could end up hurting Nintendo a bit more than it would help. People tend to not like being made fools of.


If nintendo actually had a hand in making this hype that is.

[Javery]

If nintendo actually had a hand in making this hype that is.

and that's what sucks. We might never know. Either way, Nintendo is going to get away with pissing everyone off - again.

[Sleepkyng]

Blarnet!

[WildWop]

This is all very confusing and very exciting. I personally can't wait for whenever Nintendo decides to blow its load ON us.

Revolution: The Nintendo Money Shot

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Revolution: The Nintendo Money Shot

Wow, that statement strangely compliments your sig. Another clue!

[Grave_Addiction]

My problem with the entire thing is that if Nintendo had nothing to do with it, they should have came out and said so. That way we wouldn't have gotten our hopes up and not gotten our hopes up.

Now most people are pissed at Nintendo for not coming through with anything, no matter if they were behind Nintendo On or not.

From a PR standpoint, it was good for Nintendo to get all the attention the last few days, but the dissappointment from gamers is not something that's a postive for Nintendo.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

My problem with the entire thing is that if Nintendo had nothing to do with it, they should have came out and said so. That way we wouldn't have gotten our hopes up and not gotten our hopes up.

Now most people are pissed at Nintendo for not coming through with anything, no matter if they were behind Nintendo On or not.

From a PR standpoint, it was good for Nintendo to get all the attention the last few days, but the dissappointment from gamers is not something that's a postive for Nintendo.

Nintendo is busy with E3. Do you think they have seriously known what is going on? Even if some lower-level Nintendo drone has been following this internet craze (which is very small, just a few messageboards really), do you think they are going to run to Reggie or Miyamoto and demand for them to take time at an E3 event to dispel some internet rumors?

The whole DemaSked thing was a smaller version of this and you notice that Nintendo never officially stated it had nothing to do with that.

[RAMSTORIA]

you guys realize that the day isnt over and there is still tomorrow

[ArthurDigbySellers]

you guys realize that the day isnt over and there is still tomorrow

Unless Miyamoto outright lied in his interview with IGN this afternoon, I wouldn't get your hopes up (if they were indeed up).

[Snake2715]

My problem with the entire thing is that if Nintendo had nothing to do with it, they should have came out and said so. That way we wouldn't have gotten our hopes up and not gotten our hopes up.

Now most people are pissed at Nintendo for not coming through with anything, no matter if they were behind Nintendo On or not.

From a PR standpoint, it was good for Nintendo to get all the attention the last few days, but the dissappointment from gamers is not something that's a postive for Nintendo.

Oh yeah. I have to Dis agree here.

If they even acknowledged that they new of all the hype and denied it that would have caused even more hoopla... the ones that dont know of the hype would have started speculating etc.

On top of that they probably dont have time to rearrange their schedules to discount any hype that their crazy fans build anyways. (me being one of them over the last couple of days thanks Pumbaa)

[Grave_Addiction]

Nintendo is busy with E3. Do you think they have seriously known what is going on? Even if some lower-level Nintendo drone has been following this internet craze (which is very small, just a few messageboards really), do you think they are going to run to Reggie or Miyamoto and demand for them to take time at an E3 event to dispel some internet rumors?

The whole DemaSked thing was a smaller version of this and you notice that Nintendo never officially stated it had nothing to do with that.

Actually, just about every major Nintendo and gaming news site has published stories on the Nintendo On and the supposed conspiracy. I would think taking about a minute to dispell any rumors would be in Nintendo's best interest.

Oh yeah. I have to Dis agree here.

If they even acknowledged that they new of all the hype and denied it that would have caused even more hoopla... the ones that dont know of the hype would have started speculating etc.

On top of that they probably dont have time to rearrange their schedules to discount any hype that their crazy fans build anyways. (me being one of them over the last couple of days thanks Pumbaa)

Reggie or Miyamoto could have done it in five seconds in their interviews today.

Also, it didn't neccessarily have to be those two who had to say anything. It's the Nintendo PR's job to do stuff like this.

[Apossum]

I would think taking about a minute to dispell any rumors would be in Nintendo's best interest.

they'd much rather ride the wave of crafted mystique they have going about the Revolution. it keeps the rest of the industry on their toes.

[tinskat]

http://cube.ign.com/articles/617/617195p1.html

Here is a new article from IGN about the "secret meeting". It doesn't really tell anything new unless you can read into the sarcastic comment at the end.

[AdamInPlaidum]

I'm still not convinced that nothing is going to happen. Until everything is revealed, I still have my suspicions.

[Ozzkev55]

The system is tiny -- much smaller than PlayStation 2, Xbox or even GameCube. It also weighs less than any of the aforementioned systems and Nintendo says it's only going to get smaller and lighter with the finalized design.

Damn!!!

[MorPhiend]

I wasn't sure you were following this thread epobirs. Welcome to the asylum ;) .

Yeah, I was wondering when you would show up as well. Although, I am surprised you said so little.;)

EDIT: I have a bit of reading to do, now that I'm done with work...

[pumbaa]

Look guys... regardless of truth... its sparked my imagination... and thats worth a couple hours of wasted time. The Nintendo On may never EVER come to light, but it made me excited about Nintendo... and the fact that we can even THINK that Nintendo could release something like this doesn't mean we are gullible... it just means that Nintendo is the only videogame copmany willing to take a risk like that. It was fun just trying to match everything together... who knows if we will ever find the truth out... but even if we don't, we have seen the new Nintendo system.

We now have a clearer (although STILL prtty blurry) picture of what Nintendo is doing with the Revolution. Its going to be cheap, its goign to be more powerful, its going to be online, its going to be a GREAT Nintendo system with GREAT Nintendo games. Thats all there is to it. Again, its been fun... enjoy the rest of E3 and for christ sakes... check out the videos for the new AMAZING DS/GBA/GCN games. This is truly a great time to be a Nintendo fan.

[Ozzkev55]

This is truly a great time to be a Nintendo fan.
Man...nice...i feel like marching into the console war...with a Link sword and sheild, and a mario coon tail hat

Yeah, I was wondering when you would show up as well. Although, I am surprised you said so little.;)

EDIT: I have a bit of reading to do, now that I'm done with work...
Nice Sig...I think that might be a possibility :)

[MorPhiend]

Look guys... regardless of truth... its sparked my imagination... and thats worth a couple hours of wasted time. The Nintendo On may never EVER come to light, but it made me excited about Nintendo... and the fact that we can even THINK that Nintendo could release something like this doesn't mean we are gullible... it just means that Nintendo is the only videogame copmany willing to take a risk like that. It was fun just trying to match everything together... who knows if we will ever find the truth out... but even if we don't, we have seen the new Nintendo system.

We now have a clearer (although STILL prtty blurry) picture of what Nintendo is doing with the Revolution. Its going to be cheap, its goign to be more powerful, its going to be online, its going to be a GREAT Nintendo system with GREAT Nintendo games. Thats all there is to it. Again, its been fun... enjoy the rest of E3 and for sakes... check out the videos for the new AMAZING DS/GBA/GCN games. This is truly a great time to be a Nintendo fan.


Exactly. I had fun with this. I still wouldn't doubt that something comes up, but I am happy if nothing happens. Isn't that what videogames are about? Fun? I'm going to relax and just wait. Like I said, I'm not going to say it's over until it's over. And we really don't know when that will be. It's Nintendo. They only follow one set of rules - theirs.

[CoffeeEdge]

Look guys... regardless of truth... its sparked my imagination... and thats worth a couple hours of wasted time. The Nintendo On may never EVER come to light, but it made me excited about Nintendo... and the fact that we can even THINK that Nintendo could release something like this doesn't mean we are gullible... it just means that Nintendo is the only videogame copmany willing to take a risk like that. It was fun just trying to match everything together... who knows if we will ever find the truth out... but even if we don't, we have seen the new Nintendo system.

We now have a clearer (although STILL prtty blurry) picture of what Nintendo is doing with the Revolution. Its going to be cheap, its goign to be more powerful, its going to be online, its going to be a GREAT Nintendo system with GREAT Nintendo games. Thats all there is to it. Again, its been fun... enjoy the rest of E3 and for christ sakes... check out the videos for the new AMAZING DS/GBA/GCN games. This is truly a great time to be a Nintendo fan.
Winner! That summed my feelings up quite nicely. Yay Nintendo!

[dcfox]

As fun as it's been playing along, I would still like an explanation.

[David85]

You people are freaks.

Grow up. Nintendo never shows anything and they already should the system, grow up people and move on.

How about we still talk about M3G@T0N!!!! :roll:

[SpottedNigel]

Just to add to the hype/problem/mystery

http://www.smashbrothersonline.com/

faith...

[Scorch]

Just to add to the hype/problem/mystery

http://www.smashbrothersonline.com/

faith...

Welcome to page eight or nine..

But this is weird.

[SpottedNigel]

it used to direct people to the page that had a link to the mp3 and other info...now it just says "Faith" and that row of numbers.

[CoffeeEdge]

it used to direct people to the page that had a link to the mp3 and other info...now it just says "Faith" and that row of numbers.
Holy crap. This is starting to look real complicated. If it really is some sort of viral ad campaign, then it's the most elaborate I've ever seen.

Someone get to work on that number! I'm already fiddling with it.

[evilmax17]

Holy crap. This is starting to look real complicated.

Someone get to work on that number! I'm already fiddling with it.

Is it a site counter?

[CoffeeEdge]

Is it a site counter?
Uh, you mean a hit counter? I somewhat doubt that that site has gotten 428,843,112 hits. Plus, it's not changing.

[evilmax17]

Uh, you mean a hit counter? I somewhat doubt that that site has gotten 428,843,112 hits. Plus, it's not changing.

Wasn't the number in the On video 500,000,000? Someone do some subtraction or something.

[Apossum]

Someone get to work on that number! I'm already fiddling with it.

well, it's not a phone number..tried calling and it didn't go through. but my phone is low on batteries right now, maybe someone else could try calling it.

Edit: nevermind, noticed that I added another 3 before the 112...so it wasn't meant to be a number in the first place, heh.

[dcfox]

Just to add to the hype/problem/mystery

http://www.smashbrothersonline.com/

faith...
I'm not getting anything at that site. It's just a black page for me.

[SpottedNigel]

http://www.smashbrothersonline.com/pokemonlist.html

Look at Jiriachi, and his background is gold (compared to none/white) and the text is gold (compared to white). Same weird number.

[Ozzkev55]

This number makes shit sense...its there to screw with us

[CoffeeEdge]

I'm not getting anything at that site. It's just a black page for me.
Is your contrast turned way down? Try dragging a selection across the middle of the screen. There is text there.

[Ugamer_X]

There's a song on there.

Edit: but its that same crappy song from the stupid "on" video.

[SpottedNigel]

same song that was on the Nintendo ON video

[CoffeeEdge]

This number makes shit sense...its there to screw with us
512000000 didn't make sense at first, but with some tweaking, it lead us to May 19....

[Ozzkev55]

512000000 didn't make sense at first, but with some tweaking, it lead us to May 19....
which lead to nothing...they figured that number out to screw with us as well

[Ugamer_X]

You know, I've read through this thread, and I somehow get the idea that some of you believe the crap in that Nintendo On video.

Am I wrong here?

[helava]

Uh, does it seem really blatantly obvious that this site was just set up by some Nintendo fan, and that those URL's aren't even registered to Nintendo? WHOIS shows it's registered to someone in Australia.

I love the fact that any marginally plausible rumor's enough to send a bunch of Nintendo fanboys into a frenzy, when a *moment* of even remotely critical thought would show this is all nonsense.

seppo

[tinskat]

Uh, you mean a hit counter? I somewhat doubt that that site has gotten 428,843,112 hits. Plus, it's not changing.


That is the same number in the Nintendo On video before it gets to 512,000,000. Except that it is backwards. (211,348,824)

Anyone open the links??

[twiztidjester]

You know, I've read through this thread, and I somehow get the idea that some of you believe the crap in that Nintendo On video.

Am I wrong here?


Whats wrong with believing in somthing

[dcfox]

Is your contrast turned way down? Try dragging a selection across the middle of the screen. There is text there.
Caught it, thanks.

[SpottedNigel]

You know, I've read through this thread, and I somehow get the idea that some of you believe the crap in that Nintendo On video.

Am I wrong here?

Its either
A: Nintendo doing a neat viral advertising campaign
or
B: a prank, which in its own weird way is keeping at least a few peopls minds off of MS and Sony, thus helping Nintendo

either way its kinda fun looking for stuff

[CoffeeEdge]

Uh, does it seem really blatantly obvious that this site was just set up by some Nintendo fan, and that those URL's aren't even registered to Nintendo? WHOIS shows it's registered to someone in Australia.
Um, what are you talking about? www.smashbrothersonline.com is registered to a Joshua Yonah of Glensdale, Arizona, as is www.supersmashbros3.com, which is a mirror of the same site.

And for your information, www.iloveknees.com, and the other ilovebees.com parodies that Nintendo set up, aren't explicitly registered to Nintendo. Nor is ilovebees.com explicitly registered to Microsoft, or 42 Entertainment, the advertising firm that ran the site. They're registered to individuals in Aliso Viejo and San Francisco, California, respectively.

For all we know, the owner of smashbrothersonline.com, which is a real fansite that has been running since 2002, could have been offered a big sum by Nintendo to let them use his domain as part of the N-game and keep quiet about it.

[MorPhiend]

As fun as it's been playing along, I would still like an explanation.

You want the truth?

You want the truth?!?

You can't handle the TRUTH!!!


Well, here's something anyway...
http://www.zhq2.com/coppermine/cpg132/albums/userpics/10001/e3_zelda_revolution.jpg

[dcfox]

same song that was on the Nintendo ON video
I was poking through the smashbrosonline site and they're claiming it as the opening theme for Smash Bros. 3.

[Sleepkyng]

damn, Zelda is going to be so fucking awesome.

[ArthurDigbySellers]

Um, what are you talking about? www.smashbrothersonline.com (http://www.smashbrothersonline.com/) is registered to a Joshua Yonah of Glensdale, Arizona, as is www.supersmashbros3.com (http://www.supersmashbros3.com/), which is a mirror of the same site.

And for your information, www.iloveknees.com (http://www.iloveknees.com/), and the other ilovebees.com parodies that Nintendo set up, aren't explicitly registered to Nintendo. Nor is ilovebees.com explicitly registered to Microsoft, or 42 Entertainment, the advertising firm that ran the site. They're registered to individuals in Aliso Viejo and San Francisco, California, respectively.

For all we know, the owner of smashbrothersonline.com, which is a real fansite that has been running since 2002, could have been offered a big sum by Nintendo to let them use his domain as part of the N-game and keep quiet about it.

Well in either case, the site is not too sophisticated:

<meta name="generator" content="Created Using Yahoo! PageBuilder 2.61.87">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#000000" link="#0000FF" vlink="#FF0000" text="#000000"
>

[CoffeeEdge]

OK, I know I'm probably getting a bit out there, but I've got some more idle theories.

Remember, a couple months ago, when the "Nintendo 21" thing hit? For those that didn't hear about it, a Japanese fellow claimed that he had looked at secret documents that were en route to a Nintendo of Japan shareholder meeting (I think). He described, and provided a scrawled drawing of what he saw in the documents drawn from memory, a device called the Nintendo 21, theoretically named after the 21st (American) anniversary of the NES. It has since been disproved, by what we have seen so far at E3, but I've got an odd little idea in the back of my head regarding it.

Imagine that, perhaps, the entire 21 "leak" was a big, and very early, plant by Nintendo. That could be possible, right? Make a note of the number 21. Now let's look at the number 512000000, the number from the On video (which itself could have theoretically been a very elaborate plant). With a little division and addition, people were able to make this number point to May 19, a day which, it seems, has yielded little info. But maybe that division wasn't necessary.

Turn 512000000 around, and you get 000000215. Toss the zeros, and you're left 215. Add a slash, and you get 21/5, aka, May 21. And if you'd believe that, then you could imagine that the whole "Nintendo 21" business was also a very early plant hinting at this date.


There ya go. Two instances, both of which could have plants, of things that could be seen to be pointing at May 21, the first day following E3. Could it be that Nintendo is planning something too grand for even E3, and intends to blow the lid on Saturday?


Now please, don't waste time telling me I'm a fanboy living in a fantasy world, because really, I'm just going off on tangents, presenting every idea even remotely possible. I'm not actually expecting this to be true, but I will say that I still think anything is a possibility.

[Flea]

It's over. Nothing amazing is going to happen ;x

[CoffeeEdge]

Well in either case, the site is not too sophisticated:

<meta name="generator" content="Created Using Yahoo! PageBuilder 2.61.87">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#000000" link="#0000FF" vlink="#FF0000" text="#000000"
>
I'm not trying to defend the site as being evidence or anything, but if it is a plant, then perhaps Nintendo is using such simple construction to further throw us off their trail.

[willardhaven]

I read through all the posts... are you guys saying that the console they unveiled is fake?

[MorPhiend]

I read through all the posts... are you guys saying that the console they unveiled is fake?

Possibly? More likely I think it would be a more optimized, more powerful, smaller, quieter, more energy efficient GCN with a Revolution still to be unveiled.

[CoffeeEdge]

I read through all the posts... are you guys saying that the console they unveiled is fake?
Not necessarily...I think that would be a but much, even for Nintendo...but I think it's obvious that we certainly haven't heard the entire story, not by a long shot. That lovely little black box is just a piece of the story.

I also wouldn't be suprised if certain details that we have heard turn out to be fake info, intended to throw us off guard.

[willardhaven]

I think that would be a fun way to market the console... Nintendo's press conference was merely ok, but it was way more interesting thatn Sony's. This whole right brain thing Reggies was rambling about did seem very suspicious and made me think of that "fake" movie.

It always makes me smil when Miyamoto talks about a game or shows up to talk about something, you can tell that the man loves video games.

I'm interested in all of the new consoles, but seriously, I'd prefer sturdier builds of the currents systems with more creative/fun games.

[PawnTakesKing]

Even as a hardcore Nintendo fan, I'm giving up. Today came and went, and no matter how many numbers you flip upside down, multiply, and raise to the third power, Nintendo didn't reveal anything else. I know all of the details haven't been revealed yet, but I doubt we'll hear anything else until 2006.

Some "Revolution"...

[SpottedNigel]

Here's the thing for me...i dont care about x360 or ps3. Nothing interests me so far game wise except for Heavenly Sword. Killzone can look amazing, but if its the same people making it it will play like ass. X360....slight upgrade...yet again, nothing special.

Revoulution so far has a huge backlog of hits, free online gaming, and mystery. It also doesnt come out for another year at least. I dont see any reason for Nintendo to do more than they already have this year. If this is all a hoax, dont get pissed at the company that didnt start it

[AdamInPlaidum]

Here's the thing for me...i dont care about x360 or ps3. Nothing interests me so far game wise except for Heavenly Sword. Killzone can look amazing, but if its the same people making it it will play like ass. X360....slight upgrade...yet again, nothing special.

Revoulution so far has a huge backlog of hits, free online gaming, and mystery. It also doesnt come out for another year at least. I dont see any reason for Nintendo to do more than they already have this year. If this is all a hoax, dont get pissed at the company that didnt start it

Precisely.

[willardhaven]

I know I'll be getting a Revolution, even though the thing looks like the Aggro Crag trophy from Guts.

[MorPhiend]

Even as a hardcore Nintendo fan, I'm giving up. Today came and went, and no matter how many numbers you flip upside down, multiply, and raise to the third power, Nintendo didn't reveal anything else. I know all of the details haven't been revealed yet, but I doubt we'll hear anything else until 2006.

Some "Revolution"...

Actually, whether or not anything happens in the near future, they will talk this year, which means before 360 (why would they do it after?). It's official. Perrin specifically and explicitly stated so. Will it be at SpaceWorld or just a huge press conference? It depends on if everyone has enough energy to put on a SpaceWorld. But something will happen in order to deflate 360. Logically, that is the best choice anyway. The only thing that happened by them not showing it on Tuesday is to upset many an impatient, angsty person. But it does not help to know now. By the time 360 released, everyone would have let the memories slide and buy a 360 (which is bad if they can only afford one system). But if they wait for three to four weeks before 360 launches, no one would be quite as excited for 360. Even M$ fanboys would be left saying, "Look at what I am stuck buying." But you never know how much sooner we might hear something. But we do know it won't be after 360 launches.

[pumbaa]

I think its NUTS that this thread is getting as big as its getting its a testament to the loyalty... or psychosis or Nintendo fans. And this thing was essentially debunked 10 hours ago. I mean I appreciate the tenacity guys... but this thread is kinda turning into the "crazy Nintendo fanatic" thread. We're grasping at nothing here. If something else legit comes up... fine... but lets not get crazy here.

May I suggest that the conversation turn from the past to the future. If not now... when? when will the Revolution be shown? Spaceworld? Xbox 360 launch (or is that saved for Zelda)? E3 2006? Or some random day?

Also to discuss... Aries got it wrong... nothing was shown today. Is he still credible? Are his supposed features still legit? Whats the consensus? I think I agree with Matt from IGN on this one... they guy is a fake... a damn good one with some excellent ideas... but a fake. Then again... who knows.

[MorPhiend]

I think its NUTS that this thread is getting as big as its getting its a testament to the loyalty... or psychosis or Nintendo fans. And this thing was essentially debunked 10 hours ago. I mean I appreciate the tenacity guys... but this thread is kinda turning into the "crazy Nintendo fanatic" thread. We're grasping at nothing here. If something else legit comes up... fine... but lets not get crazy here.

Both loyalty and psychosis. But I see nothing wrong with that. I also think there is no happier gamer than the devout Nintendo fan.

[pumbaa]

Both loyalty and psychosis. But I see nothing wrong with that. I also think there is no happier gamer than the devout Nintendo fan.

Heh. :lol:

[AdamInPlaidum]

I know I'll be getting a Revolution, even though the thing looks like the Aggro Crag trophy from Guts.

For the record, I would pay ANYTHING for one of those trophies.

[MorPhiend]

For the record, I would pay ANYTHING for one of those trophies.

Would you let dc have his way with you?:hot:

[AdamInPlaidum]

Would you let dc have his way with you?:hot:

Adam crack for Aggro Crag?

[dcfox]

Would you let dc have his way with you?:hot:
No deal, he would be getting two amazing things for nothing.

[CoffeeEdge]

Here's the thing for me...i dont care about x360 or ps3. Nothing interests me so far game wise except for Heavenly Sword. Killzone can look amazing, but if its the same people making it it will play like ass. X360....slight upgrade...yet again, nothing special.

Revoulution so far has a huge backlog of hits, free online gaming, and mystery. It also doesnt come out for another year at least. I dont see any reason for Nintendo to do more than they already have this year. If this is all a hoax, dont get pissed at the company that didnt start it
Another excellent post. I definately agree.

[Javery]

I think its NUTS that this thread is getting as big as its getting its a testament to the loyalty... or psychosis or Nintendo fans. And this thing was essentially debunked 10 hours ago. I mean I appreciate the tenacity guys... but this thread is kinda turning into the "crazy Nintendo fanatic" thread. We're grasping at nothing here. If something else legit comes up... fine... but lets not get crazy here.

May I suggest that the conversation turn from the past to the future. If not now... when? when will the Revolution be shown? Spaceworld? Xbox 360 launch (or is that saved for Zelda)? E3 2006? Or some random day?

Also to discuss... Aries got it wrong... nothing was shown today. Is he still credible? Are his supposed features still legit? Whats the consensus? I think I agree with Matt from IGN on this one... they guy is a fake... a damn good one with some excellent ideas... but a fake. Then again... who knows.

This is why Nintendo is not going anywhere anytime soon. I like all 3 companies but nothing gets me excited for video games quite like Nintendo...

[ryanbph]

it is soley brand loyalty of a few stron willed fans...not that their is anything wrong with that...I have hooked on this damm thread all day

[PawnTakesKing]

Ok, ok...I take back my harsh words about Nintendo from earlier. I guess it's really not their fault that some jerkoff posted a bunch of stuff on a forum and got everybody to buy into his hype, only to let everyone down and probably sit in the corner of his little padded room and laugh all night long. I guess we should have listened to Matt when he said the guy was a fake.

At the very least, it's good to know that there are still dedicated Nintendo fans. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one happy with the direction Nintendo's headed, with all my friends planning on buying XBox 360s and PS3s. Even if the Revolution doesn't do anything except play older Nintendo games, I still have faith in the company. "Kicking ass, taking names, and making great games."

[Sleepkyng]

the gamecube proved to me that nintendo was attempting to head in the direction that i'm interested in.

the direction xbox and ps are going is boring and tiresome to me, so its' revolution or nothing for me.

and DAMN i want a ds now!

[bowsernieb]

http://www.smashbrothersonline.com/pokemonlist.html

Look at Jiriachi, and his background is gold (compared to none/white) and the text is gold (compared to white). Same weird number.

I also just noticed something when I was looking at this...there are a lot of misspellings in that little blurb. I looked at a few of the ones above and below it and there weren't any grammatical errors. Could there possibly be something to decode in there?

I know it's grasping at straws, but it reminded me of Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events where Meryl Streep's character left errors in her suicide note that lead the kids to where she was hiding.

Check it out anyway, tell me if I'm still searching for nothing.

[RAMSTORIA]

No deal, he would be getting two amazing things for nothing.
:rofl:

[chosen1s]

Ugh.

I can't believe all the time I put into watching this thread. Thanks to everyone who posted recently so I didn't have to read any more to find out nothing happened today.

It is good that there are still many Nintendo loyalists out there. Now do something with it Nintendo. Do something!!!

[dcfox]

It seems the smashbrothersonline site is down for now.

[gofishn]

The guy who owns the smashbrothersonline and smashbrothers3 site is just some lamer Nintendo uber-fanboy that posts under the name JOSHCUBE on various sites, including the official Nintendo.com forums. Not that I'm criticizing Nintendo fanboy's cause I partially consider myself to be one, but this guy was on there making posts about getting the Master Chief in SSB and posting fake information all over the place. He's also posted on a bunch of other forums, just run a whois on his site and google his e-mail.

[Snake2715]

Again nothing happened. It was fun as Pumbaa stated. but what if it was an early plant?

The revo comes out at Spaceworld or E3 2006 and some parts of what we found today are true.. wouldnt htat make an even bigger impact... Not only would it generate new hype it would lead all the way back to todays hype and start the process all over again on a larger scale.

[MorPhiend]

It seems the smashbrothersonline site is down for now.

It appears that maybe Nintendo has put him out of business:

Site Temporarily Disabled

This site has been temporarily disabled. If you are the owner of the site, please contact customer care.

[crystalklear64]

Today is the last chance Nintendo has to do something worthwhile...lets hope we get something. Even the fabled Mario 128 footage would be enough.

[MorPhiend]

Today is the last chance Nintendo has to do something worthwhile...lets hope we get something. Even the fabled Mario 128 footage would be enough.

I don't think that anything more is coming. But at least I'm very happy with what was shown. I only have one GBA, so I am looking forward to getting a micro. Also, I have not splurged for a DS as yet, but now as soon as I have money, I will be getting one. Everything else was just icing on the proverbial cake.

[j.elles]

Ya Space World is probably when it will happen. Nintendo isn't revealing anything to prevent theft. That's what they said at least. Plus they said that until it's near the final boards they didn't want to say anything. Which is true, specs for systems tend to change the closer to launch historically. If by August-November nothing is still revealed then i'll be worried.

[Snake2715]

Ya Space World is probably when it will happen. Nintendo isn't revealing anything to prevent theft. That's what they said at least. Plus they said that until it's near the final boards they didn't want to say anything. Which is true, specs for systems tend to change the closer to launch historically. If by August-November nothing is still revealed then i'll be worried.


Why its realistically not going to release until October of 2006 anyway. This way it will have a nice christmas season/demand.

Maybe July-August of next year. Or even 2006 E3 it will be all laid on the table.

Realistically Sony will probably come out in spring 2006 in japan and then Fall 2006 in America.

[dcfox]

Q4 2006 is too long of a wait. Now that I think about it, I would have preferred if they didn't release any info on the Rev. If only to keep me from going crazy in anticipation.

[maxflight]

Q4 2006 is too long of a wait. Now that I think about it, I would have preferred if they didn't release any info on the Rev. If only to keep me from going crazy in anticipation.


well if you really look at it, they barely released anything about the Rev.

[MorPhiend]

Ya Space World is probably when it will happen. Nintendo isn't revealing anything to prevent theft. That's what they said at least. Plus they said that until it's near the final boards they didn't want to say anything. Which is true, specs for systems tend to change the closer to launch historically. If by August-November nothing is still revealed then i'll be worried.

It's not just a final board they are waiting for. They want to have a final build locked in, plus they want to be able to pull the numbers from actual games running on those builds. Miyamoto basically said that what the other companies are doing is dishonest. And that's very bold speech for the happy-go-lucky, life is beautiful type of guy.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/617/617000p1.html?fromint=1


IGNcube: Coming back to power. We apologize, but if we don't get some answers our readers are going to go insane. What are the tech specs for Revolution? Or, to put it another way, is Revolution as powerful as Xbox 360?

Shigeru Miyamoto: You know, in regard to the power of the Nintendo Revolution versus, say, the Xbox 360, we're looking at making a small, quiet, affordable console. If you look at trying to incorporate all that, of course we might not have the horsepower that some other companies have, but if you look at the numbers that they're throwing out, are those numbers going to be used in-game? I mean, those are just numbers that somebody just crunched up on a calculator. We could throw out a bunch of numbers, too, but what we're going to do is wait until our chips are done and we're going to find out how everything in the game is running, what its peak performance is, and those are the numbers that we're going to release because those are the numbers that really count. I do think it's very irresponsible for people to say, "This is what we're running on. This is the power of our machine," when they're not even running on final boards. I think the professional's job is to not believe those numbers.

...

IGNcube: Have you seen or played any non-Nintendo games at this year's E3 that have impressed you?


Shigeru Miyamoto: I haven't seen any other software yet. I haven't left this room [laughs]. As far as the other company's software, I've heard that Sony brought out a whole bunch of stuff that looked really pretty, but I haven't heard that any of it is playable. So let me ask you something: have you seen anything on the show floor that's really pretty and playable?</B>

IGNcube: Yes. The game that first comes to mind is Okami from Capcom. It's amazing.

Shigeru Miyamoto: What is that on?

IGNcube: PlayStation 2 (http://cube.ign.com/articles/617/617000p2.html#).

Shigeru Miyamoto: Anything for PlayStation 3, that was playable?</B>

IGNcube: Nothing playable. Unfortunately, some of the PS3 demos were rendered. But there's no doubt it's going to be a beast of a machine. You don't have to speak specifically on the title or titles, but is there a game for Revolution that validates to you the path you seem to be taking with the console?

Shigeru Miyamoto: In the development of the Revolution, I can't really elaborate on anything that explains why this is the specific path for us. We know this is the path for us. I just can't give you specific details that maybe reaffirms for you that we feel comfortable. What thing I can say is that Sony and Microsoft are going down the same road. They have chosen their path and they're sticking to it. They're going down that road together. We have chosen the road less traveled and we're happy with that. We do think that is a good thing.

IGNcube: Do you think Revolution will alienate gamers? Shigeru Miyamoto: No, I don't think we're going to alienate gamers at all. I think if you look at the stuff we have on Nintendo DS, which is really different from anything else out there, people are playing that and really enjoying it. There is going to be software for Revolution that you will not be able to play or experience anywhere else, on any other console, and I think people will find it enjoyable.

[tinskat]

If anyone is still interested, go to Nintendo's website

http://www.nintendo.com/e3_2005/index.html

and click on Matt's Photo Gallery. There are pictures there that appear to be from yesterday's "secret meeting".

[scdoanintendo]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet in one of the pages, but on G4 they were interviewing Reggie. They asked him about the controller he said nothing, but that "The revolution will support Nes, SuperNes, and N64 games. All these platforms had different controllers so how will the revolution handle this without a unique controller", something along the lines of that. I think this well definite increase the odds that the controller will be touch screen or at least for those games and maybe a totally new controller for the Revolution.

[PawnTakesKing]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet in one of the pages, but on G4 they were interviewing Reggie. They asked him about the controller he said nothing, but that "The revolution will support Nes, SuperNes, and N64 games. All these platforms had different controllers so how will the revolution handle this without a unique controller", something along the lines of that. I think this well definite increase the odds that the controller will be touch screen or at least for those games and maybe a totally new controller for the Revolution.

I think Iwata already explicitly denied the touch screen controller rumors. Although he could be doing it just to cover his own butt, but what about an idea I don't think anyone's mentioned yet? How about a CUSTOMIZABLE controller?

I really have no idea how this would work, but if there were some way to make a controller where you could slide the buttons around to different positions to suit whatever type of game you were playing, that would be pretty revolutionary. Imagine a bare controller with the face designed like a grid, with several interlocking squares molded into the plastic. Now imagine if you could take different button "pieces" and fit them into the controller however you wish, kinda like Legos. Wanna play an FPS? Grab two thumbstick pieces, position them wherever you like, and snap 'em in.

In retrospect, this doesn't really seem like a good idea, since the grid would probably get full of dirt and dust, thus blocking the contacts needed to make the buttons work. *Sigh*....it sounded so much better as I was typing.

[MorPhiend]

I think Iwata already explicitly denied the touch screen controller rumors. Although he could be doing it just to cover his own butt, but what about an idea I don't think anyone's mentioned yet? How about a CUSTOMIZABLE controller?

I really have no idea how this would work, but if there were some way to make a controller where you could slide the buttons around to different positions to suit whatever type of game you were playing, that would be pretty revolutionary. Imagine a bare controller with the face designed like a grid, with several interlocking squares molded into the plastic. Now imagine if you could take different button "pieces" and fit them into the controller however you wish, kinda like Legos. Wanna play an FPS? Grab two thumbstick pieces, position them wherever you like, and snap 'em in.

In retrospect, this doesn't really seem like a good idea, since the grid would probably get full of dirt and dust, thus blocking the contacts needed to make the buttons work. *Sigh*....it sounded so much better as I was typing.

I've had an idea that I haven't mentioned only because it sounds kind of dumb. But now that you posted that, how bad could my idea be? jk:lol:

Anyway, what if they had a controller with a smooth, pliable surface? And you could set it to different modes and little motors would push "buttons" out of the surface? I don't know, just kind of went along with the gripping/pressure sensitive rumors that have gone around. If one worked, I don't see why they wouldn't implement the other idea as well.

EDIT:
And yes, the touch screens are a no go. Even if the idea hadn't been put down previously, it just wouldn't be feasible. You need tactile feedback while playing. There is no way that a flat screen would do for buttons (even if they could get around the problem of proper calibration and only being able to use one point simultaneously on a touch screen - try your PDA out. Try to touch two points. It just averages out the distances.).

[dcfox]

I think Iwata already explicitly denied the touch screen controller rumors. Although he could be doing it just to cover his own butt, but what about an idea I don't think anyone's mentioned yet? How about a CUSTOMIZABLE controller?

I really have no idea how this would work, but if there were some way to make a controller where you could slide the buttons around to different positions to suit whatever type of game you were playing, that would be pretty revolutionary. Imagine a bare controller with the face designed like a grid, with several interlocking squares molded into the plastic. Now imagine if you could take different button "pieces" and fit them into the controller however you wish, kinda like Legos. Wanna play an FPS? Grab two thumbstick pieces, position them wherever you like, and snap 'em in.

In retrospect, this doesn't really seem like a good idea, since the grid would probably get full of dirt and dust, thus blocking the contacts needed to make the buttons work. *Sigh*....it sounded so much better as I was typing.
I remember seeing something similar at eb, the Phoenix Revolution Controller (http://www.darkplanets.com/product_info.asp?cat=1&type=2&prod=1338) for the PS2. It's not as customizable as what you're suggesting or how well it works but makes your idea more plausible.

http://www.darkplanets.com/images/shop/PS2-Phoenix-Controller.gif

[SpottedNigel]

...well, it IS named Revolution.... :)

So, who else just cant wait for next year now? Sure, im going to Disney World in September, but im almost more curious about the Revolution (yep, i got my priorities straight)

[MorPhiend]

...well, it IS named Revolution.... :)

So, who else just cant wait for next year now? Sure, im going to Disney World in September, but im almost more curious about the Revolution (yep, i got my priorities straight)

I really doubt that we have to wait until e3 to know what is going on. I am going on a cruise to the Bahamas in October, but Bahamas or a possible SpaceWorld? I don't know... But Bahamas or next year when I'll have a Revolution? Having a Revolution is possibly better than going to the Bahamas but definitely better than just hearing about / seeing a Revolution...

[PawnTakesKing]

I really doubt that we have to wait until e3 to know what is going on. I am going on a cruise to the Bahamas in October, but Bahamas or a possible SpaceWorld? I don't know... But Bahamas or next year when I'll have a Revolution? Having a Revolution is possibly better than going to the Bahamas but definitely better than just hearing about / seeing a Revolution...

On IGN today, they posted snippets of an interview with Iwata in which he says, "Nintendo cannot afford to be late with the Revolution." He even hints that the big mystery behind Revolution will be spilled before the end of the year.

I hope this is true. I would hate to have to wait until E3 2006. That's like a whole year away!! I really feel that we'll know at least a solid release date by this Christmas.

[MorPhiend]

On IGN today, they posted snippets of an interview with Iwata in which he says, "Nintendo cannot afford to be late with the Revolution." He even hints that the big mystery behind Revolution will be spilled before the end of the year.

I hope this is true. I would hate to have to wait until E3 2006. That's like a whole year away!! I really feel that we'll know at least a solid release date by this Christmas.

Here it is.
New interview today. Excerpt:


"If the first entrant always wins the market, the Dreamcast must have won the race against the PS2, for example. There are many precedents like that in the past. The first to market is not necessarily the winner in the race," he said. "But we cannot afford to be too late. That's a very important point. Right now we are keeping many secrets, but by the end of this year, I believe we really need to express to the worldwide audience what the mysterious proposals we have are all about. Otherwise we will be in an extremely different position."
-Satoru Iwata


http://cube.ign.com/articles/617/617814p1.html

So it's official. We should know pretty much everything by the time Xbox 360 launches and Sony will launch before Nintendo, but Nintendo won't be too late to the party (mid-2006).