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Scorch
07-02-2005, 04:15 PM
http://cube.ign.com/articles/630/630908p1.html

..everyone gives it a 5 or lower, so IGN steps in with an 8.1

..wow

Dr Mario Kart
07-02-2005, 04:25 PM
15 hours of gameplay and yet it requires 2 discs? weirdness

Apossum
07-02-2005, 04:54 PM
it'll probably get a 7 from gamespot

Apossum
07-02-2005, 05:08 PM
We can't stress it enough: kids should not play Killer 7. Not just because there's an M on the box, but because for once that M really means something. There's much more than blood and guts in the game. Everything from the design of puzzles to the subject matter is designed for older players and it's really that simple.

Killer 7's storyline dabbles in terrorism, viruses, the illegal trafficking of children, the sale of harvested human organs, schizophrenia, and more. And Capcom has not pulled any punches in order to appease parents. The game is brutal. During cut-scenes, characters point-blank shoot innocent victims directly in their shocked faces, spraying blood in every direction. Heads are exploded and decapitated. Body parts fly in every direction. Just about every character has something eye-poppingly profane to say -- sometimes with racial implications. And there are cinematics that feature full-blown sex sequences.

The story successfully drives players. It's so psychotic and unpredictable that it becomes mesmerizing. As the killers advance through the impressively varied levels, which range from abandoned warehouses to Texas streets and futuristic landscapes, more and more off-the-wall details are unraveled. The game greatly rewards players who keep at it with beautiful cut-scenes that become more prevalent and help illuminate the plot. The cinematics are anime-inspired and just as stunning as they are weird. It's because of these well-done sequences that the game weighs in at a hefty two discs.

NOICE! :lol:

This review got me VERY psyched....finally a full review.

it seems that there's a lot of stuff i didn't pick up on in the J-version and it sounds like the controls are a little awkward and sometimes the puzzles are illogical, but other than that, the game kicks ass. Just as I thought :-)

5 MORE DAYS!

coolz481
07-02-2005, 07:06 PM
I read all I needed to with this excerpt from IGN's review: " we're confident that players who adore old-school adventure games like Myst and Snatcher will enjoy -- maybe even love -- Killer 7 for the very same reasons. " Snatcher's gameplay boiled down to moving a cursor around the screen for some shooting, I just want to play something that envelops me in its universe. I knew right away to ignore EGM's 5-6 point reviews when it started "those expecting a first-person shooter will be disappointed..." For God's sake, who could have possibly expected this game to play like a conventional shooter when after 18 months of previews we've seen nothing but strangeness?

Apossum
07-02-2005, 11:52 PM
I knew right away to ignore EGM's 5-6 point reviews when it started "those expecting a first-person shooter will be disappointed..."

:lol: soooooooo stuuuuupeeed. I think the first thing I ever read about this game back when there was nothing but a couple of bland screenshots available, was that it wouldn't play like an FPS.

Mr. Anderson
07-03-2005, 03:55 AM
Capcom, you've got my money.

Scorch
07-03-2005, 04:00 AM
How dare they compare it to Snatcher. Snatcher was a text based adventure game with an occasional shooting part where you have 9 squares (top left, top, top right, left, middle, right, bottom left, bottom, bottom right) to shoot.. no way. Nothing can ever top Snatcher. Now I need to play Killer 7.. which means going over my brother's house.. bah!

Slade555
07-03-2005, 04:08 AM
PS2 and Cube only? What the?

dafunkk12
07-03-2005, 04:19 AM
PS2 and Cube only? What the?Yeah, who thought selling it to PS2 owners was a good idea?! :lol:

Kidding aside, I'm betting the Cube version will sell more probably because the hype train hasn't been building for the PS2 nearly as long. I'm hoping some games I'm holding on to will retain their value for a week before I can trade them in for Rhino's 2-for-1 deal. I hope some preorder comic books show up on eBay, or hopefully a friendly EB store clerk can hook me up with a spare.

ne2eire
07-03-2005, 03:54 PM
Oh man that kinda sucks :(

This and Twilight Princess are the only 2 Cube games I was looking forward to. Will have to pick it up when it drops to the $5-10 price range I guess :/

whoknows
07-03-2005, 04:25 PM
I'll pick it up on PS2 since I dont use my GC very often.

Matt Young
07-03-2005, 06:48 PM
As I said before, the E3 demo was one of the worst pieces of software I have ever played. I was hoping that the final version would be decent, but all the reviews have been poor-mediocre except this one, and I don't trust IGN's overinflated review scores.

Apossum
07-03-2005, 08:20 PM
As I said before, the E3 demo was one of the worst pieces of software I have ever played. I was hoping that the final version would be decent, but all the reviews have been poor-mediocre except this one, and I don't trust IGN's overinflated review scores.


translation: EGM and Gamepro didn't like it. but to each his own...


"a snatcher for the current gen." i like the sound of that 8-)
Apossum = CAG's #1 killer 7 fanboy

Tromack
07-03-2005, 08:23 PM
As I said before, the E3 demo was one of the worst pieces of software I have ever played. I was hoping that the final version would be decent, but all the reviews have been poor-mediocre except this one, and I don't trust IGN's overinflated review scores.

I really didn't think the E3 demo was that bad. I mean the gameplay definitely takes a backseat to the style and the story, but if we faulted all games on that we wouldn't be able to play 7/8 of the games on the market.

ne2eire
07-04-2005, 01:10 AM
translation: EGM and Gamepro didn't like it. but to each his own...


"a snatcher for the current gen." i like the sound of that 8-)
Apossum = CAG's #1 killer 7 fanboy

And you know what they say about fanboys...don't listen to what they say :D

Apossum
07-04-2005, 01:47 AM
And you know what they say about fanboys...don't listen to what they say :D

Except for me! I'm the REAL fanboy! er.....

anyway,

this game sucks, don't buy it. It's like......too artsy.....or something. and like, when you move, like you have to hold on to the button......and like......the graphics are like....dumb. and and....the story is like.....hard to understand......and .like it looks like it would be like halo........but it isn't. it's not like halo at all. [/typical overheard conversation in a gamestore]

;-)

daschrier
07-04-2005, 02:08 AM
15 hours of gameplay and yet it requires 2 discs? weirdness
Yeah cause we all know disc # = hours of gameplay...

KwanzaaTimmy
07-04-2005, 03:43 AM
Dang, Myst eh?

Not my cup o' tea-- dropping my 25 dollar pre-order, sorry Capcom.

David85
07-04-2005, 12:29 PM
Didn't IGN give Mario Sunshine like an 8 or something? That game was a huge waste of money. Just like this game.

smalien1
07-04-2005, 12:37 PM
PS2 and Cube only? What the?

Yeah it only came out for the good systems.

defiance_17
07-04-2005, 02:54 PM
With the hype surrounding this, and the probability that about 2% of the gaming community will be anything other than pissed upon playing it, this one should be $10 before Thanksgiving.

Apossum
07-04-2005, 03:54 PM
but but but there's like a character that can dual wield...and shit

BIG5
07-04-2005, 04:06 PM
15 hours of gameplay and yet it requires 2 discs? weirdness
Resident Evil and MGS: Twin Snakes are the same way. It must have a lot of voice acting.

Apossum
07-04-2005, 10:22 PM
Dang, Myst eh?

Not my cup o' tea-- dropping my 25 dollar pre-order, sorry Capcom.

:lol: you people are psycho.


gamers, gamers, gamers, they ask for something different, it comes along, and then they scurry away hurriedly when the reviews are somewhat inconclusive.

the thing is, none of these reviews are coming close to what the game feels like, because they are too busy comparing it to everything else under the sun. they use that as a last ditch attempt to validate their opinion because they can't adequately tell you in words what it feels like to play Killer 7.

Roufuss
07-04-2005, 10:24 PM
With the hype surrounding this, and the probability that about 2% of the gaming community will be anything other than pissed upon playing it, this one should be $10 before Thanksgiving.

This is what stops me from getting it.

I'll definately get it at the next Circuit City clearance sale a year from now though.

Apossum
07-04-2005, 10:39 PM
yeah the cheapness potential in this one is strong. as soon as that Fall/Winter wave of games and the 360 hits, this one will drop faster than a saigon whore.

i took advantage of the trade 3, get it for $20 deal at EB-- they actually had an up-to-date exclusion list in the store! I checked it out and put some $5 best buy games towards it.

Mr. Anderson
07-05-2005, 05:54 AM
I'm going to try as hard as possible to buy this at full price. I want to support Capcom in their creative endeavors.

David85
07-05-2005, 12:21 PM
:lol: you people are psycho.


gamers, gamers, gamers, they ask for something different, it comes along, and then they scurry away hurriedly when the reviews are somewhat inconclusive.



Inconclusive?!?! There are like 20 bad reviews and one ok one. If the controlsare terrible then so will the game. If the controls don't work right than the game can't be fun, and what's the point of a non-fun game?

We want something new and different, that doesn't completely suck. Plus if we can get it for $10 in 4-6 months then what is the point of wasting $40 more dollars?

Spoon_si
07-05-2005, 01:28 PM
I also dropped my Preorder...

all these mixed review... isn't a sure thing.... it looks like a luv or hate game..

I'll pick this up once it's $10... or less

defiance_17
07-05-2005, 02:31 PM
I'm going to try as hard as possible to buy this at full price. I want to support Capcom in their creative endeavors.

I completely respect that. If I had any previous interest in this game, I'd do the same.

smalien1
07-05-2005, 03:19 PM
Inconclusive?!?! There are like 20 bad reviews and one ok one. If the controlsare terrible then so will the game. If the controls don't work right than the game can't be fun, and what's the point of a non-fun game?

We want something new and different, that doesn't completely suck. Plus if we can get it for $10 in 4-6 months then what is the point of wasting $40 more dollars?

Who do you trust more,
famitsu or gamepro?

Mr Durand Pierre
07-05-2005, 06:03 PM
Inconclusive?!?! There are like 20 bad reviews and one ok one. If the controlsare terrible then so will the game. If the controls don't work right than the game can't be fun, and what's the point of a non-fun game?

We want something new and different, that doesn't completely suck. Plus if we can get it for $10 in 4-6 months then what is the point of wasting $40 more dollars?

20 to 1? According to gamerankings the GC version has an 82% average, and the lowest score is a 75. So what if the PS2 version got like 2 or 3 crap reveiws, the good reviews still greatly outweight the bad ones thus far.

I'm not going to pay full price for it, because I never pay full price for anything, but this looks like it's worth a rental. To end my curiousity if nothing else.

Apossum
07-05-2005, 06:14 PM
And here we have exhibit A

Inconclusive?!?! There are like 20 bad reviews and one ok one. If the controlsare terrible then so will the game. If the controls don't work right than the game can't be fun, and what's the point of a non-fun game?

We want something new and different, that doesn't completely suck. Plus if we can get it for $10 in 4-6 months then what is the point of wasting $40 more dollars?


Gamepro-- 1.5/5
EGM- 5, 6, 5
Game Informer- 7.5
Play- 9/10
Famitsu- 38/40
Nintendo Power- 8.5
IGN- 8.1

I can't seem to find the links to the other 18 bad reviews or anything about the controls being broken. If it was free roaming, the game would be broken on a couple different levels-- the gameplay, graphics, and atmosphere. they'd all suffer if there was any other control scheme. if you ever play it, you'll see what I mean.

maybe inconclusive was the wrong word. I should've said "mostly positive, except for the casual mags."

and how would you know it sucks? you haven't even played an american version, you've only seen reviews, which are mostly positive, except for the casual mags :-P (of course, I admit, there is a chance that I won't like it-- but I've been playing the J version and my favorite mags have rated it well...so, fat chance.)

and I'm not saying anyone should buy the game right away...but only Mr. Anderson is in my Cool Club. 8-)

b0bx13
07-05-2005, 06:33 PM
I can't seem to find the links to the other 18 bad reviews or anything about the controls being broken. If it was free roaming, the game would be broken on a couple different levels-- the gameplay, graphics, and atmosphere. they'd all suffer if there was any other control scheme. if you ever play it, you'll see what I mean.

maybe inconclusive was the wrong word. I should've said "mostly positive, except for the casual mags."

and how would you know it sucks? you haven't even played an american version, you've only seen reviews, which are mostly positive, except for the casual mags :-P (of course, I admit, there is a chance that I won't like it-- but I've been playing the J version and my favorite mags have rated it well...so, fat chance.)

Couldn't agree with you anymore. The controls did take a bit of getting used to, but even now, I can't think of how they could have been done any differently. Capcom finally answered the call for a different kind of game, and they delivered. Yet everyone bitches. I'm tight on money like you wouldn't believe, yet I'm still having a hard time telling myself I don't have the money for this on the day of release.

Snake2715
07-06-2005, 01:21 PM
Looks like one that will get a price drop already as its a non established franchise....

It will probably have an underground or 'cult' following due to its weirdness...

I think it looks great and also want to fully support Capcom for taking chances and brining out awesome or at least unique games... VJoe, RE4,....Killer7? etc

defiance_17
07-07-2005, 03:52 AM
20 to 1? According to gamerankings the GC version has an 82% average, and the lowest score is a 75. So what if the PS2 version got like 2 or 3 crap reveiws, the good reviews still greatly outweight the bad ones thus far.

I'm not going to pay full price for it, because I never pay full price for anything, but this looks like it's worth a rental. To end my curiousity if nothing else.

Nintendo reviews have always been a little shady to me, especially for the "big" titles. Some sources seem to really enjoy throwing around high numbers--especially Nintendo Power. Just something to consider.

whoknows
07-07-2005, 05:12 AM
I really wanted this game, but I just know there is going to be a price drop on it and if I get it now I will regret it later. I'm sure its an awesome game that I will most likely enjoy though. Guess it gets a rent from me...for now.

lurknomore
07-07-2005, 10:41 AM
I had lost all hope for the game given the significant negative scores that were released early...but Gamespot's recent review giving it a solid score has changed my opinions altogether. I have always thought GS was tough, so this is most welcome and probably the most realistic review. You all should check it out. Anyhow, I'm on Killer 7 bandwagon again.

Apossum
07-07-2005, 11:44 AM
just watched the GS video review-- pretty good stuff.
an 8.3 from them, and an 8/10 from Edge Magazine.

gonna go pick it up in about 5 hours and play it from start to finish this weekend! I'll probably post my own review in the review forum.

ryanbph
07-07-2005, 11:58 AM
I was looking forward to this game as well. I guess I will wait for a price drop.

chickenhawk
07-07-2005, 12:17 PM
I really do want to pony up the $50 for this one, but my cheapassness is screaming at me especially given the recent CC sale. Maybe I can sell some stuff to fund this purchase.

Apossum
07-07-2005, 06:54 PM
OH NO! they made Iwazaru's voice twice as annoying! how is that possible? there was only 1 fliter over it in the japanese PS2 version and it sounded robotic....now there's like 3 or 4 making it impossible to understand what he is saying. it sounds like 5 little kids playing with voice filters on Xbox live all talking at once!!!

other than that, the cube version owns. graphics are better, controls tighter, and the action is harder than the j-version. sweet.

full review when i finish it later

whoknows
07-08-2005, 01:00 AM
So are there any major differences between the GC and PS2 version?

I have starting thinking about getting this again after I watched the Gamespot reveiw and a few trailers for it. I want to get it on PS2 since I play my PS2 a lot more than my GC.
This game probably wont become rare will it? I have been reading that stores havent been getting too many copies in.

Apossum
07-08-2005, 01:54 AM
It was built for the Cube and it shows. the graphics look better, the load times are about half as long and the controls are tailored to the cube controller and feel pretty natural on it.

I'm about 5 hours into it and it's as good as I thought it would be, but I've run into the occasional cheap situation by getting trapped right where enemies spawn. but as soon as you die, you spawn as Garcian Smith and pick up the bloody head bag and resurrect the person, so it's no sweat. the only real way to get a game over is to die as Garcian, who can take a lot of damage. The game just flows right along and although you don't explore a whole lot and the puzzles are somewhat easy, you cover a lot of ground, talk to a lot of people and the levels end up taking a while. the shootouts are also pretty intense. it's quite hypnotic....and a shitload of fun.

There's a lot of crazy dialogue and memorable lines...and the plot is insane, but it's starting to make some sense. Think Metal Gear Solid, but more political and more surreal. It's also similar to MGA in that there's long cutscenes and lots of different characters mixed into the plot at various levels. and the voice acting is actually pretty damn good. better than most games.

whoknows
07-08-2005, 01:59 AM
I'm just afraid it will either:

A. Become really cheap in a few months
or
B. Become hard to find.

And when you say the levels get long do they get tedious and repetitive halfway through?

Apossum
07-08-2005, 02:44 AM
that would suck if it became one of those rare, expensive games. but I hear it didn't ship out in high numbers.

The levels haven't felt tedious or repetitive. In the 2 chapters I've played, I've had a few puzzles to solve and waves of different kinds of enemies to deal with, items to collect, minibosses, the occasional cutscene and plenty of NPCs to talk to, so it's stayed pretty fresh so far.

whoknows
07-08-2005, 03:21 AM
that would suck if it became one of those rare, expensive games. but I hear it didn't ship out in high numbers.

The levels haven't felt tedious or repetitive. In the 2 chapters I've played, I've had a few puzzles to solve and waves of different kinds of enemies to deal with, items to collect, minibosses, the occasional cutscene and plenty of NPCs to talk to, so it's stayed pretty fresh so far.

Are there a lot of enemies at any one time? Because In the trailer I watched I only saw 1 or 2 enemies at a time, hopefully thats not the case, is it?

Apossum
07-08-2005, 03:26 AM
the most i've run into is 3 at a time. but theres these generator things that are a bit of a trick to pass-- they keep pumping out enemies as soon as you kill them, and you have to shoot a weak spot on the generator a bunch of times to kill it. so you have to time it and monitor your bullets in your clip, cause reloading gets you killed fast.
there's different forms of enemies-- running ones, crawlers, rollers, little flying ones that blind you for a bit, etc. they keep it fresh.

it's more about priortizing which ones you kill, sharp shooting and speed. if you try and spray kill, yer screwed

whoknows
07-08-2005, 03:39 AM
the most i've run into is 3 at a time. but theres these generator things that are a bit of a trick to pass-- they keep pumping out enemies as soon as you kill them, and you have to shoot a weak spot on the generator a bunch of times to kill it. so you have to time it and monitor your bullets in your clip, cause reloading gets you killed fast.
there's different forms of enemies-- running ones, crawlers, rollers, little flying ones that blind you for a bit, etc. they keep it fresh.

it's more about priortizing which ones you kill, sharp shooting and speed. if you try and spray kill, yer screwed

You dont know how bad I want to go get this game now...I just fear a price drop in a few months, which is keeping me away.

dafunkk12
07-08-2005, 03:41 AM
Usually Rhino's gets games a day or two later than the other game stores, but they had it today on 7/7. I'm guessing since the delay was just for advertising purposes, they had it shipped much earlier. They only had 3 Cube and 1 PS2 version when I went to pick it up with a couple games traded in from the CC sale. (Minus one Cube after me.) I guess I should have asked when they first got it in and how many of each they recieved. Either more people are picking it up on PS2 or they didn't print as many PS2 versions.

I haven't gotten a chance to play it yet, since I spent the rest of the day running around town hunting an elusive PC version of Final Fantasy VII for my friend who's going to Iraq soon, then doing send-off gatherings. (Seriously, you'd be surprised with the prices for not new FF7 PC on half.com...)

I did get a chance to glance through the instruction manual and noticed two different art styles than the game: that of the character profiles and comic book. The look of the comic cover look rather disappointingly plain compared to the daring look of the game; can anyone lend impressions from what they recieved as a bonus if they preordered at EB/GameStop?

Apossum
07-08-2005, 03:44 AM
You dont know how bad I want to go get this game now...I just fear a price drop in a few months, which is keeping me away.


I want everyone to own it! :D the reviews tried.....but they didn't do it any justice.

maybe you can still get it for $20 at EB, if you trade in 3 crap games. they had a deal going...

whoknows
07-08-2005, 03:49 AM
I want everyone to own it! :D the reviews tried.....but they didn't do it any justice.

maybe you can still get it for $20 at EB, if you trade in 3 crap games. they had a deal going...

No EB in my town :hot:

I'll call one thats about an hour away, and if they do have the deal still going I'm there :D

whoknows
07-08-2005, 04:41 AM
Another question, so the guy has 7 personalities, does he just transform into the other people or something like that?

Tromack
07-08-2005, 04:44 AM
Are there a lot of enemies at any one time? Because In the trailer I watched I only saw 1 or 2 enemies at a time, hopefully thats not the case, is it?

From what I played, 2 enemies is more than enough at a time.

Scorch
07-08-2005, 04:45 AM
Usually Rhino's gets games a day or two later than the other game stores, but they had it today on 7/7. I'm guessing since the delay was just for advertising purposes, they had it shipped much earlier. They only had 3 Cube and 1 PS2 version when I went to pick it up with a couple games traded in from the CC sale. (Minus one Cube after me.) I guess I should have asked when they first got it in and how many of each they recieved. Either more people are picking it up on PS2 or they didn't print as many PS2 versions.

Rhino only gets new games, regardless of what day they come out, on Thursday afternoons. They get other stock on Fridays and.. Tuesdays, I think. But Thursday, unless a game ships out early in preparation of demand (Halo 2, Doom 3), is the release date for all games at Rhino.

coolz481
07-08-2005, 10:26 AM
I've only finished the first chapter and played about 10 minutes into the second, but this just confirms my previous suspicions that EGM is run by a bunch of retards - how this scores a 5 boggles the mind. The storyline, gameplay and graphics are so different than anything I've played before - I love the fact that the personalities play differently as well, you need to strategize your shooting a bit in order to succeed. Great game so far!

Apossum
07-08-2005, 01:13 PM
Another question, so the guy has 7 personalities, does he just transform into the other people or something like that?


I have no idea. I can't tell if he's just a crazy old man having delusions of grandeur and weird spy fantasies or if he really does have this strange power to manifest his personalities. There's evidence for both sides, and for some reason, I think they will leave that as an open question.

chickenhawk
07-08-2005, 02:51 PM
Maybe Outpost.com will have a deal on this for $30. :pray:

I am in the same situation as you whoknows. I can see a price drop in it's future, but I am also afraid it will disappear. :?

Roufuss
07-08-2005, 03:27 PM
Maybe Outpost.com will have a deal on this for $30. :pray:

I am in the same situation as you whoknows. I can see a price drop in it's future, but I am also afraid it will disappear. :?

I can't think of a Capcom game that will ever disappear, espically since this is on two systems, and it's a semi - major release (espically on Cube). And please don't name the ports of 2 - through CV, since apparently Capcom re-released those.

Even stores like Best Buy and Gamerush got in copies... I'm banking on other major retailers getting it as well.

I'm frankly not that worried... it will rot on Best Buy's shelves until they mark it down.

Quackzilla
07-08-2005, 04:20 PM
I can't believe the whole bloody game is a rail shooter.

olanmills
07-08-2005, 07:12 PM
It's not a shooter. It's an adventure game.

Mr Durand Pierre
07-08-2005, 07:31 PM
After reading several reviews (both positive and negative) about this game, I finally found one that makes absolute complete sense...

Gamespy gave it a 2.5 (out of 5), but their reasoning is all solid. Here's a link- http://cube.gamespy.com/gamecube/killer-7/632084p1.html

I was sick of reviews that panned it for not being a FPS, or praised it simply for being "different" (whatever that means), but the gamespy guy clearly isn't bashing it just for the heck of bashing it. He isn't even bothered by the unusual control scheme, and goes on to praise a lot of what works early in the review. But his complaints about the "puzzles" are all valid, and I look forward to this game a whole lot less now.

whoknows
07-08-2005, 07:41 PM
After reading several reviews (both positive and negative) about this game, I finally found one that makes absolute complete sense...

Gamespy gave it a 2.5 (out of 5), but their reasoning is all solid. Here's a link- http://cube.gamespy.com/gamecube/killer-7/632084p1.html

I was sick of reviews that panned it for not being a FPS, or praised it simply for being "different" (whatever that means), but the gamespy guy clearly isn't bashing it just for the heck of bashing it. He isn't even bothered by the unusual control scheme, and goes on to praise a lot of what works early in the review. But his complaints about the "puzzles" are all valid, and I look forward to this game a whole lot less now.

Pretty good review...I still want it though.

And wow:

Take, for instance, this brain teaser from early in the game. You come to a room containing five candles. In order to solve the "puzzle," you must light the candles in a specific order. But what's this? The candles all have numbers on them? Numbers one through five? What could the proper order be? Thank heaven for GameFAQs, or I never would have gotten past that puzzler.

Apossum
07-08-2005, 10:57 PM
yeah, that's the first puzzle. they get a little bit tougher, but it's not going to challenge a mensa candidate. then again, I can't remember the last time I've run into a logically difficult puzzle in an adventure game, besides ICO. I've just come to accept that most puzzles are there to eat time and most plot lines are campy as hell in video games.

Nice constructive review but the game is way more than the sum of it's parts, anyone who has played without the sole intent of ripping it apart and stamping it with a number can see that.

but it just supports my theory that there's a huge hole in modern game reviewing....games have changed and should be subject to a more flexible criteria. The typical game reviewers style is so formulaic and predictable and their calloused attitude from playing too many games always shines through. you don't see that in reviewers for other things. professional movie and book reviewers know how to keep it fresh with each piece. Ever watch a gamespot video review and notice how all their reviewers look half dead and the way they try to liven things up with dorky jokes? :lol:

anyway, yeah, Killer 7.. I fall into the "love" category :roll: I am so done talking about this game. it'll be just as good when it's in the $10 bin this fall. Time to go pick up my check from Capcom :lol

whoknows
07-08-2005, 11:40 PM
yeah, that's the first puzzle. they get a little bit tougher, but it's not going to challenge a mensa candidate. then again, I can't remember the last time I've run into a logically difficult puzzle in an adventure game, besides ICO. I've just come to accept that most puzzles are there to eat time and most plot lines are campy as hell in video games.

Nice constructive review but the game is way more than the sum of it's parts, anyone who has played without the sole intent of ripping it apart and stamping it with a number can see that.

but it just supports my theory that there's a huge hole in modern game reviewing....games have changed and should be subject to a more flexible criteria. The typical game reviewers style is so formulaic and predictable and their calloused attitude from playing too many games always shines through. you don't see that in reviewers for other things. professional movie and book reviewers know how to keep it fresh with each piece. Ever watch a gamespot video review and notice how all their reviewers look half dead and the way they try to liven things up with dorky jokes? :lol:

anyway, yeah, Killer 7.. I fall into the "love" category :roll: I am so done talking about this game. it'll be just as good when it's in the $10 bin this fall. Time to go pick up my check from Capcom :lol

$10 bin? Ok, I can wait then :lol:

whoknows
07-10-2005, 01:44 AM
Is the content in this game as bad as people are saying? Like gore and stuff?

Also someone said this game is way way too easy on normal mode, is this true?

(I have to ask questions since I got not money to get this game and am jealous :lol: )

Apossum
07-10-2005, 02:00 AM
okay, now i'm gonna start charging for info, i'll pm you my paypal addy and you just drop in a fiver when you want to hear something about the game ;-)

in the last few cutscenes I saw:

1 chick riding an old man
1 mention of people who masturbate for times a day
1 guy fake an orgasm and consequently raze a building behind him
1 guys head get propelled off his body by a stream of blood
4 or 5 innocent people get shot point blank in the face(they show it head on)
and 1 talking severed head in a gas pump talking about cutting off penises

that "mature" enough for ya????? :lol:

It is pretty easy at first....but I got stuck a few times in the third level. Each wave of enemies is a little logic problem in its self, you have to decide who to kill first, if you have time to reload, whether you should try to counter attack or not, and above all, aim and hit the sweet spot. some of the newer enemies are a pain in the ass cause you have to shoot them a certain way to get them to expose their weak spot.

some enemies you can just shoot dead with no problems, but it's when they mix those guys with harder enemies that things get difficult.

overall, its pretty easy though.

whoknows
07-10-2005, 02:07 AM
okay, now i'm gonna start charging for info, i'll pm you my paypal addy and you just drop in a fiver when you want to hear something about the game ;-)

in the last few cutscenes I saw:

1 chick riding an old man
1 mention of people who masturbate for times a day
1 guy fake an orgasm and consequently raze a building behind him
1 guys head get propelled off his body by a stream of blood
4 or 5 innocent people get shot point blank in the face(they show it head on)
and 1 talking severed head in a gas pump talking about cutting off penises

that "mature" enough for ya????? :lol:

It is pretty easy at first....but I got stuck a few times in the third level. Each wave of enemies is a little logic problem in its self, you have to decide who to kill first, if you have time to reload, whether you should try to counter attack or not, and above all, aim and hit the sweet spot. some of the newer enemies are a pain in the ass cause you have to shoot them a certain way to get them to expose their weak spot.

some enemies you can just shoot dead with no problems, but it's when they mix those guys with harder enemies that things get difficult.

overall, its pretty easy though.

If I had money to pay you dont you think I would just buy the game :lol: .

And I guess this isnt something I would want to play in front of my sister (forget her age at the moment :lol: ) or anyone else in my family for that matter :D

Apossum
07-10-2005, 02:11 AM
If I had money to pay you dont you think I would just buy the game :lol: .

And I guess this isnt something I would want to play in front of my sister (forget her age at the moment :lol: ) or anyone else in my family for that matter :D


yeah, it's more of a "show a girl you just met 5 minutes ago" kinda game :lol:

whoknows
07-10-2005, 02:12 AM
yeah, it's more of a "show a girl you just met 5 minutes ago" kinda game :lol:

That way you get to know her for 6 mins :D

chickenhawk
07-12-2005, 12:15 PM
OK, I brokedown and picked this up for PS2 yesterday. The $5 PS2 coupon, a BB reward , and a gift card made it an easier purchase. I am still not sure I need it right this instant, but it was calling to me from the rack of games and I couldn't resist. :D I guess I have 30 days to see if it drops. But can I resist opening it up and giving it a whirl? We shall see.....

kill3r7
07-12-2005, 12:19 PM
Has anyone seen any deals on this game???

whoknows
07-12-2005, 10:53 PM
Has anyone seen any deals on this game???

I also want to know. If I saw it anywhere for ~$40 I would buy it for sure.

CaptPete
07-29-2005, 05:44 PM
Is the content in this game as bad as people are saying? Like gore and stuff?

Yes. It's pretty out there and definetely not for kids.

Also someone said this game is way way too easy on normal mode, is this true?

Also Yes!

I have to say that I'm having a lot more fun on hard mode (I forget what it's called) than my first little bit of playthrough on Normal. You actually have to think a bit in the shooting sections and the puzzles are a little harder (for instance, instead of acual number on the candes, the `number' of the candle is part of the shape of the stem of the candlestick...not much of a difference, but at least it's not bashing you over the head with it).

whoknows
07-31-2005, 03:08 AM
Holy Shit...this has the biggest WTF ending ever

Apossum
08-01-2005, 12:52 AM
Isn't it? Now go to the gamefaqs K7 board, look for the "lets put the story together" thread and prepare to read a lot.

Green-Bull
08-20-2005, 09:13 PM
I enjoyed this game. I hope they make a sequel or something like it on the GC. When I played it for the first time, I played on the hardest difficulty. So the candle puzzle was hard, until I realized the "you know whats". And I tried not to speak to the guy who gives you hints for blood. Think I talked to him only on the candle puzzle and last puzzle, both once and not twice. I was afraid to even read too much of what he said on the candle puzzle, cause I didn't want it to be too easy. That very last puzzle was pretty hard for me. Took forever to figure it out. After I got stuck on it, I just went and maxed out all my characters. And, yes, I'm stubborn. I didn't wanna ask the hint guy for any info. So I was thinking anything and everything, from counting all the snakes/hooves on the posters outside/inside to counting how many different type parts each guy in the poster was made out of. So, I finally asked him once, but I don't really think it helped me at all. At first I thought he meant to look at the posters outside the room and see what types off things the Things are composed of. So I would go out and look, come back in the room and stare at the small posters and try to figure out which of the things looked like it fit with the others and how many per each character, cause some looked like they may have more than one thing connected into it. Confusing I know.

One thing I wanted in this game was D-pad support. They should've at least put the option in. They could've let you use the D-pad and put analog for whatever the D-pad does, cycle through enemies. What sucks is that in some of the menus, you can use the D-pad to navigate, but in others, you can't. Seems a little odd they'd let you on some things and on others no. I had to use my good analog controller for this game. I tried using my crapped out analog stick, worked fine for aiming, but for navigating rooms and such, no luck. I wouldn't have minded using the D-pad for aiming/navigating, like in RE4. I like my games D-pad compatible, doesn't everybody? And no, it's not too small. If it was smaller then it would be, but it's not. The function they put on the D-pad is basically useless. I never needed it, but did try it out. B button is almost useless. If it wasn't for flying enemies, you would never use it hardly. After beating the game and stuff, the last part of the game seems like the only place that B comes in handy. I think it was B anyway.

Oh, and I so wanted to see Kaede used in one of those anime cut-scenes. :( Sucks they didn't.

Apossum
08-20-2005, 10:15 PM
Yeah, I was hoping we could get some backstory on her too. Actually, I wanted backstory on each and every one of them. Some kind of prequel is in order.

Green-Bull
08-21-2005, 01:44 PM
I wish some of the magazines (NP, EGM) would've included pull out posters of the Killer7 (like one character per issue). I was checking TRU for posters in the NP's and no luck. Not even the one that had Garcian on the cover. But it did have an interview, so I'll have to either buy it or just read it in-store. :) I guess EGM won't have an AfterThoughts for Killer7, although I could be wrong. They haven't yet.

And by the way, I stopped going to IGN after they spoilt RE4 for us, by posting a render of the coolest character in the game (hint Leon, now! hint) on the News headlines page (which was the only page I ever went to. So, nope, I haven't read a review of theirs in a very long time.