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D4rkewolfe
01-28-2004, 03:45 PM
I just think that's sad...I guess sometimes you really need the cash. I heard about it on the Radio that this guy was auctioning himself off, apparently to repair his windshield.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3171477806
Besides why settle for a PFC when you can have a Cpl :points to self: :P j/k

Edit: Man, I can't believe this. There are more people on eBay selling themselves to be an "imaginary" g/f or b/f....this world is a strange one

evilmax17
01-28-2004, 03:49 PM
I just think that's sad...I guess sometimes you really need the cash. I heard about it on the Radio that this guy was auctioning himself off, apparently to repair his windshield.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3171477806
Besides why settle for a PFC when you can have a Cpl :points to self: :P j/k

Edit: Man, I can't believe this. There are more people on eBay selling themselves to be an "imaginary" g/f or b/f....this world is a strange one

I think the best part is that he put a reserve on himself!

D4rkewolfe
01-28-2004, 03:54 PM
I wonder how much he thinks he is worth

Edit: I just found out someone is selling a can of Pepsi for 9.99 man....when I think I can't be surprised anymore, then I get something like minx getting married...erhm, I mean a can of pepsi for 10 bucks

JSweeney
01-28-2004, 05:18 PM
I just think that's sad...I guess sometimes you really need the cash. I heard about it on the Radio that this guy was auctioning himself off, apparently to repair his windshield.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3171477806
Besides why settle for a PFC when you can have a Cpl :points to self: :P j/k

Edit: Man, I can't believe this. There are more people on eBay selling themselves to be an "imaginary" g/f or b/f....this world is a strange one

Isn't there a breach of military protocol somewhere in there? Disgracing the corps and all? I would think as soon as news of this got to some of the higher ups that this guy's ass would be in a sling.

D4rkewolfe
01-28-2004, 09:19 PM
I'm pretty sure someone will find out, he stationed in Lejeune, and I tell you, someone in his command will find out, and I'm pretty sure he will be on "The Globe", usually we see NJPs proceedings in there. I wouldn't be surprised if I see him drop from PFC to a plain PVT. Especially after the radio station mentioned him.

Edit: JS these hearings do take a while too, so it wouldn't be as fast as you would think. They still have rights, and one of them is right to an attorney, and of course you have to go to a class about NJP procedures so you know what to expect. I've seen some crazy things...heck a Gunnery Sergeant reduced to a Lance Corporal and finishing his term in the brig...so that means he can't retire, so he lost who knows how many years. He was there because he had exposed himself to some people.

Edit 2: Have you checked out who is bidding on him? It's some woman that is in the Air Force, has a 2 year old and is married to someone also in the Air Force. Now she could get in much more trouble than him, cause they could consider that a sign of a possible adultery situation

greendj27
01-28-2004, 09:24 PM
The scary part is that people are bidding. Watch some gay guy win the bidding. That could be a problem with the whole "Don't ask, don't tell" policy. :lol:

JSweeney
01-28-2004, 09:30 PM
I'm pretty sure someone will find out, he stationed in Lejeune, and I tell you, someone in his command will find out, and I'm pretty sure he will be on "The Globe", usually we see NJPs proceedings in there. I wouldn't be surprised if I see him drop from PFC to a plain PVT. Especially after the radio station mentioned him.

Yeah, I would think.

Edit: JS these hearings do take a while too, so it wouldn't be as fast as you would think. They still have rights, and one of them is right to an attorney, and of course you have to go to a class about NJP procedures so you know what to expect. I've seen some crazy things...heck a Gunnery Sergeant reduced to a Lance Corporal and finishing his term in the brig...so that means he can't retire, so he lost who knows how many years. He was there because he had exposed himself to some people.

Oh I know, I didn't exactly mean that he'd go through legal proceedings right away (military justice is just about as slow as civil law).. I just figured it's trickle down to his specific CO, and he'd be read the riot act, and then his CO would just generally make his life a little more difficult.


Edit 2: Have you checked out who is bidding on him? It's some woman that is in the Air Force, has a 2 year old and is married to someone also in the Air Force. Now she could get in much more trouble than him, cause they could consider that a sign of a possible adultery situation

Ouch. Definately not something to send to "Humor in Uniform" in Reader's Digest, eh?

D4rkewolfe
01-28-2004, 09:41 PM
Oh yeah, definetly a problem. You know we joke around with the whole "Don't ask, don't tell" but everyone knows that if they find out you have certain tendencies, you can consider yourself to be discharged.
By the way, woo hoo I'm getting more votes *grins*

Edit: Well his CO cannot really do anything but start the wheels. Sometimes even that takes a while, especially since he is part of 2nd Div...they are huge, and some don't even know their Marines. If his CO would do something (besides the regular proceedings), it might be considered hazing, then he would be in trouble. A lot of things have changed, especially bootcamp. I know I had it a lot easier than the ones that went before me, and now the ones that went after me, I know they've had it easier, cause they have done away with so much.

JSweeney
01-28-2004, 09:51 PM
Oh yeah, definetly a problem. You know we joke around with the whole "Don't ask, don't tell" but everyone knows that if they find out you have certain tendencies, you can consider yourself to be discharged.
By the way, woo hoo I'm getting more votes *grins*

Edit: Well his CO cannot really do anything but start the wheels. Sometimes even that takes a while, especially since he is part of 2nd Div...they are huge, and some don't even know their Marines. If his CO would do something (besides the regular proceedings), it might be considered hazing, then he would be in trouble. A lot of things have changed, especially bootcamp. I know I had it a lot easier than the ones that went before me, and now the ones that went after me, I know they've had it easier, cause they have done away with so much.

It seems somewhat disconcerting that my boss can berate me more than a CO could berate a Marine before action could be taken.
So Wolfe, do you think that the Corp is overcorrecting for past mistakes, or are the changes justified?

D4rkewolfe
01-28-2004, 10:06 PM
Oh no don't worry about that JS, the CO won't even have to deal with him directly for that. He will have his NCOIC (Non Commissioned Officer in Charge) to deal with, then his SNCO (Staff.....), then his OIC (Officer.....). What I mean is that they won't give him extra duties and punish him yet until the proceedings are done with, but oh you can trust me when I say he would be given a good old fashioned ass chewing. We don't need the CO to berate him...well it is a bit more than that, I'm pretty sure you've seen cases of chewing someone out in movies.

I think some things should not be changed due to the fact that I just consider it a process for them in shaping who you are. Then again I remember some things I went through, and did think it was absolutely unneccesary. Some situations do get completely out of hand, Drill Instructors get to go overboard and sometimes the end result is not a pleasant one.

Some changes I consider are justified (we have new cammies, basically they are digital looking cammies. You might have seen some in "The Hulk" movie. Anyways due to this uniform a lot of Marines have gotten lazy, because you do not need to iron this uniform, it has this permanent crease. The boots are not polished anymore since they are no longer leather, some still wear them, but they will be obsolete soon, along with the old cammies. Though I don't like the idea that inspections now have gotten easier than what I went through, I do like the fact that these new uniforms are more effective in combat. So some changes are justified, besides we still have the other uniforms), but others I see that "Mother's of America" are getting too nosy. I mean if they change all aspects of training, then we will lose some training that is still very much important. Some of the hazing actually makes sense, "The Pit" and "The QuarterDeck" are meant for you to get stronger, and yes it might be a punishment, but in the end you will be stronger.

minx
01-28-2004, 10:09 PM
"The Pit" and "The QuarterDeck" ????

JSweeney
01-28-2004, 10:12 PM
"Pleasant" little training exercise inflicted on recruits during BT. I'm sure Wolfe would probably want to cover those.

D4rkewolfe
01-28-2004, 10:27 PM
I think it's alright, last I heard the pits are not used any longer. Basically there these big sandpits all over the Recruit Depot i.e. bootcamp. As a punishment you get "pitted". It's basically they exercise you almost to exhaust, and of course it is not a very good experience being all sweaty and having all that sand around. Especially when you do that in the morning, and you don't take a shower until night time, so you have to deal with that all day. Sometimes they make you bury yourself, that is one thing I thought was completely unneccesary, they just wanted us to feel even more miserable.

Before from what I know they would pit you with your blouse on (no not a woman's blouse, we call the top portion of our cammies a blouse), or any other items you had on like glasses. So before that now they have you at least take off your blouse (which helps a little for the heat) and take everything out of your pocket (no more stuff poking you in the wrong place!). I personally didn't mind it, it did make me stronger in the end. The quarter deck is pretty much the same thing, except in the squad bay, and it is usually 1-3 recruits. Just if you really screwed up. I dunno, it might sound messed up, but it wasn't that big of a deal. I just can't see training without it, they are effective tools. If you don't want to get pitted then it helps to be close as a platoon and trust in each other. If you don't want to be quarter decked, then stand out as an individual and excel, and follow orders.

Things that did suck was, well I remember being chocked slammed on a table, by a Drill Instructor that wasn't my Drill Instructor. He wanted me to mess it up (it was set up with awards we had gotten, and it is a motivation table that our Senior Drill Instructor made). I said no, because why should I follow orders of someone not in my command, well he got pissed and did what he did. Then I remember my SDI got pissed at me during one point in training and he took me in this control tower and kept slamming me against the wall, screaming and spit flying around.

Edit: Bleh this whole thing is getting off topic, I don't want to scare anyone about joining the military. There are certain phases you will go through, and some of it might suck, but I do feel like I've accomplished something. That's all that matters, not once have I regretted joining.

Medium_Pimpin
01-28-2004, 10:40 PM
OMG that guy has no arms!!!!!

He should be a vet, not a PFC.

D4rkewolfe
01-28-2004, 11:31 PM
Not too funny, but to all his own. Anyways I know you meant it as a joke, but he is just at parade rest...well a modified parade rest since he is not looking forward. Since he is a PFC, unless he came out of bootcamp as a PFC...and he is already at his first duty station, he should meet all the requirements to be a veteran. You do not need to be disabled to be a veteran, just to serve your country for a given amount of time, which I believe is 6 months. So I am already a veteran, though I was fortunate not to see combat, I was given a billet to train other Marines proficiently in their job, so if they do deploy and go to those areas, they could do an outstanding job.

Edit: Yay I'm an all-star, get the game on, go play.

SS4Brolly
01-29-2004, 11:15 AM
"let me protect and serve you"

HAHAHAHAHA

LV-426RS
01-29-2004, 11:39 AM
I've spent time in the military. The pit sucks but is needed. It may sound ridiculous to send recruits to a sand pit, but one day they may be in a real "sand pit" so the training is absolutely needed. It's getting too easy. I remember back in '96 or '97 the Army came out with stress cards, get to stressed out and you flash that and you get a free 10-15 minutes... what a joke.

D4rkewolfe
01-29-2004, 11:52 AM
The rumors about "Stress Cards" have been in the Corps for a while. My SSgt said that those rumors were even there when she was in bootcamp...and that was a while back. So for now we are stress card free, but I do think they are doing away with the pit. I'd have to ask all the boots (basically all the new Marutes :Marine Recruits: cause I remember I really didn't feel like a Marine till I finally got done with all my training).

Edit: Some guy has the bidding on 100 dollars. The name is Barry Zimmer....funny thing is, if it is a guy, and he has to do the whole b/f routine...man he could increase some of his problems. Imagine they find love letters addressed to another guy...yep he is going to have some fun.

bradr
01-29-2004, 12:05 PM
I checked out some of the listings for virtual girlfriends (just for fun :wink: ). I can't believe some of those have bids. I felt bad just looking at the listings. One was up to $505! Think of all the games you could buy with that, and it'd last you longer than a month of weekly emails and after the 4 weeks, we're through ... no more communication, etc. The funny thing was, the auction that was up to $505 was from a Powerseller that sold car parts! Hmm...

D4rkewolfe
01-29-2004, 08:15 PM
It has finally been taken off file. I bet they found out what he was doing. I know someone who is going to hate the local radio station :P