I finally gave in and dropped 117.98 on Suikoden 2

[Theenternal]

Well, I have complained/whined for several months in these forums about the cost of this game, and how I had a chance to buy it used for 7.99. Then i didn't know if the game was good, so i passed. I finally found out how good the game was susposed to be, and how much it was going for on ebay. Went back the game was gone.

A few weeks later I found two of these at TRU for 50, but passed because my cash flow was pretty low, and it was the prices were around 60 on ebay.

Next I found a copy PO/ Disc only for 30. But thought it was too much. :(

So I guess I had my chances and lost out like I deserved :P

I picked this up yesterday for 117.98 shipped Mint with guide.

The guide goes for a decent price so im hoping to make up some of my losses with it :).

[maxflight]

you should keep both the game and the guide, if you're a collector that is :)

[craven_fiend]

not too cheapass, but still good pick up with the guide.

[guessed]

I saw the subject, and immediately knew who posted it. Glad you are finally getting it, sorry you missed your chances at getting it cheap. $7.99?!?!?!? Ouch. The guide is a good find.

[magilacudy]

Going by a utilitarian view, you should play through the game at least 15 times to get the optimum value to make up for the price. =P

[Theenternal]

Going by a utilitarian view, you should play through the game at least 15 times to get the optimum value to make up for the price. =P

hah!

Actually this is what I told myself to justify the price.

"well when the game was 50, I was making minimum wage" "so now that I am making more cash per hour I am sorta getting a better deal for my time"

I will not be telling my Girlfriend about this purchase.

[PsyClerk]

And here I was considering buying a copy of Suikoden II myself.

I don't think I could pay that much for it though. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

[PsyClerk]

edit: Thanks piece of shit internet service! I love double posting!

[BigHow]

Sweet Christmas, that's pricey. But, considering what I spend on peripherals, maybe I shouldn't be talking...

You'll definitely have to write us a review when you're done playing.

[laparka72]

good lord, I see suikoden 2 all the time where I live, for 19.99...seriously, I have seen at least 2 copies in every videogames store...I would have sold ya one for the bargain price of 99.99! :D

[Rodimus]

Well the important thing is that you think it's worth it. I spent $80 for my Suikoden 2, but it's just the CD. One day I'll find a case for it.

[guessed]

good lord, I see suikoden 2 all the time where I live, for 19.99...seriously, I have seen at least 2 copies in every videogames store...I would have sold ya one for the bargain price of 99.99! :D

Suikoden 2 (PSX) US version, $19.99, 2 copies per store multiplied by how many stores? In what condition are they (the games, not the stores), and where is this magical land in which you live?

[doraemonkerpal]

good lord, I see suikoden 2 all the time where I live, for 19.99...seriously, I have seen at least 2 copies in every videogames store...I would have sold ya one for the bargain price of 99.99! :D

:lol:

[Skylander7]

I got it brand new at release, and got the guide for a penny when it got marked down. It's good... but no game is $120 good. The Suikoden series rules (One and two do at least)

[argyle]

I really want this game, but I could never justify paying that much for it. Not that it's not worth it, mind you - I've played through it, and my wife has played it twice. I'm just hoping my usual luck will hit and I'll come across it used at a local store eventually.

Found a copy of Thousand Arms at my local EB yesterday, and that's only the second one I've seen I believe (I bought the first one :P). Grabbed a mint Valkyrie Profile recently for $40 (less after some trade-ins). So it can happen. :)

[evilmax17]

I saw the subject, and immediately knew who posted it. Glad you are finally getting it, sorry you missed your chances at getting it cheap. $7.99?!?!?!? Ouch. The guide is a good find.

Lol, I did too! When I saw the avatar pop up on the first post, I wasn't surprised at all. Pretty funny...

[ZForce915]

Does this game give hummers too? 'cause if it doesn't, you got hosed.

[Liontamer]

I can't believe people pay so much for this game (especially the high prices for used copies). I got my copy new for only $10 a few years ago when PSone was still alive and kicking. It's one of the few times that I actually paid more for the guide ($15) than the game ($10). It's a great game, but $40 or more seems mighty high-priced to me.

[punqsux]

good lord, I see suikoden 2 all the time where I live, for 19.99...seriously, I have seen at least 2 copies in every videogames store...I would have sold ya one for the bargain price of 99.99! :D

la parkas got the 411! thats one for me, and one...for my homies!!
*chair guitar*

[PapiChullo]

Good find, I guess. But man over 100 bones for a game is out of my league. I don't care how many times I play through it, I could never justify paying that much for one single game.

[evilmax17]

good lord, I see suikoden 2 all the time where I live, for 19.99...seriously, I have seen at least 2 copies in every videogames store...I would have sold ya one for the bargain price of 99.99! :D

la parkas got the 411! thats one for me, and one...for my homies!!
*chair guitar*

best...gimmick...ever!

[JSweeney]

Jeez, that almost makes me feel bad for being able to get my second copy of it for $25.
Almost.

[Scrubking]

Sorry, but if you pay that much for a game you are stupid.

You are only promoting the exhorbitant prices of older games that people want to label as rare.

[doraemonkerpal]

i'd pay full price of $40 for the game and $15 for the guide b/c it's worth every penny :)

[Dead of Knight]

Sorry, but if you pay that much for a game you are stupid.

You are only promoting the exhorbitant prices of older games that people want to label as rare.

This is truth and fact. Suikoden II is a great game, but there is no shaq-fuing need to be pay over $100 for a damn game that was going for $32-40 when it first came out.

[MorganWebbLover]

I picked this up yesterday for 117.98 shipped Mint with guide.



That's still not that bad of a price for such a rare game and a guide with it. How is the game anyway i've never played it ?

[MrBrando]

I picked this up yesterday for 117.98 shipped Mint with guide.



That's still not that bad of a price for such a rare game and a guide with it. How is the game anyway i've never played it ?

It's fun and has a decent story but it's nothing epic or groundbreaking, it's just old school RPG done very well and the best Suikoden game. It does have the THE best mini game ever which is the iron chef one.

[snotnose_colossal]

if suikoden2 is worth so much, then what about the first is it even more rare and expensive or what?

[guessed]

if suikoden2 is worth so much, then what about the first is it even more rare and expensive or what?

The first is considerably less expensive, but still not cheap.

[CaseyRyback]

good lord, I see suikoden 2 all the time where I live, for 19.99...seriously, I have seen at least 2 copies in every videogames store...I would have sold ya one for the bargain price of 99.99! :D

la parkas got the 411! thats one for me, and one...for my homies!!
*chair guitar*

You forgot to mention the fact that he is the CHAIRMAN of WCW

[doraemonkerpal]

I picked this up yesterday for 117.98 shipped Mint with guide.



That's still not that bad of a price for such a rare game and a guide with it. How is the game anyway i've never played it ?

It's fun and has a decent story but it's nothing epic or groundbreaking, it's just old school RPG done very well and the best Suikoden game. It does have the THE best mini game ever which is the iron chef one.

iron chef mini game is bomb!

[kittycatgirl2k]

Why is Suikoden II so rare? I bought my copy brand new back when it was released at Target for $20. I played the first couple of hours and didn't really enjoy it much, its pretty much collected dust since.

Valkyrie Profile is an awesome game and well worth $100 though hehh.

Thousand Arms was OK but the plot was almost... embarrassing. I would not play this around other people. :D

[PsyClerk]

Why is Suikoden II so rare?

A good question. I don't think it's rare so much as highly sought after. Apparently those that have copies tend to not get rid of them.

[argyle]

Why is Suikoden II so rare? I bought my copy brand new back when it was released at Target for $20. I played the first couple of hours and didn't really enjoy it much, its pretty much collected dust since.

Valkyrie Profile is an awesome game and well worth $100 though hehh.

Thousand Arms was OK but the plot was almost... embarrassing. I would not play this around other people. :D

I assume this is in response to my post. ;) I collect PSOne RPGs - one of the few things I collect just for collecting's sake - and I mentioned Thousand Arms because you don't see it very often. I played very little of it and just didn't enjoy the battle system. If it had been fun tho, rest assured I wouldn't have been embarrassed to have played through it. I love Rhapsody, the musical RPG, and I'm not the least bit ashamed to admit it. :D

But you bring up another good point about games like Suikoden 2. Because people will pay this insane prices for the game on ebay, other people who have it and didn't like it or just want to get rid of it will either ask the same - just because they can - or never get rid of it because it's now supposedly "worth" more. Which just goes to make the game harder to find.

[MauMauProductions]

I remeber passing it up for 32.99 when it was semi-new in favor of Saga Frontier II...yes, I ask my friends to hurl rocks at me for it now but thank fully I got it later on for even cheaper (14.99 at EB when it was used for cheap) and the guide for 8.00 from Borders...I now cherish it...Love that game. One of my favorites. I'd pay 120 for it but I have it. Nice find. Id make a CD-R copy and not play the original.

[Redeema]

Yeesh! A buck twenty? That's kind of steep, yo! I have a copy of the game and never finished it because I got caught up in what I assums is the last stage and I think there's no going back, and I just wasn't high enough level to survive, so the game is nigh unpassable for me.

[Dead of Knight]

Yeesh! A buck twenty? That's kind of steep, yo! I have a copy of the game and never finished it because I got caught up in what I assums is the last stage and I think there's no going back, and I just wasn't high enough level to survive, so the game is nigh unpassable for me.

Really? I thought Suikoden II was quite an easy game...

Oh and SaGa Frontier 2 is one of the worst games ever made.

[kittycatgirl2k]

I love Rhapsody, the musical RPG, and I'm not the least bit ashamed to admit it.

Hey I love Rhapsody too! It is kind of embarrassing to play (atleast when they break out into song.. heh) but I remember getting this the same day as Vagrant Story. Guess which one I played the most? Yeah, RHAPSODY! You are right about one thing though. I have not wanted to part with Suikoden II because its "worth money" and if I did, I would probably charge about $90 to 110 for it simply because I can get that much. I don't EVER resell games so a game would have to be worth some dough before I would get rid of it. I still have all my old Intellivision and Atari 2600 carts so I really don't understand why people do trade ins (unless they can rip off EB with cheap $5 buck games...LOL)

I know Panzer Dragoon Saga is rare, but that's because it was a limited printing. I have this too and no I'm not selling it - EVER! LOL The best way to "collect" RPGs is to buy them as they come out if its from a smaller company (Atlus, etc.) or wait for a price drop (SCEA, SquareEnix=sometimes). Although I've still no luck getting a copy of Dark Cloud 2 for $10 and no one seems to want to help me out either. LOL oh well. That's all.

[OrBZ97]

Sorry, but if you pay that much for a game you are stupid.

You are only promoting the exhorbitant prices of older games that people want to label as rare.

Nay, retarded. Especially after seeing it at half a dozen places for much less. That game is not THAT good. I should go around and smash all the copies of Aquaman and buy the last one, so some sap will buy it for 200 dollars because it is TEHRARE! 5 years down the line.


Good find, I guess. But man over 100 bones for a game is out of my league. I don't care how many times I play through it, I could never justify paying that much for one single game.

Good find?! Good find?! WHAT? A good find would be defined as finding it for a price that is not easily accesible via ebay. Popping into ebay, typing Suikoden II and buying the first one you see does not constitute a find.

[PsyClerk]

Nay, retarded. Especially after seeing it at half a dozen places for much less. That game is not THAT good. I should go around and smash all the copies of Aquaman and buy the last one, so some sap will buy it for 200 dollars because it is TEHRARE! 5 years down the line.

What if HE hasn't seen it anywhere for less? If you want to talk retarded, I'd say all you folks that see copies of Suikoden II everywhere for cheap but aren't buying them are the retarded ones. The game sells regularly for $60-$80 MINIMUM on eBay. Why aren't we buying up these supposed dozens of cheap copies and turning a tidy profit?

If you see the game going for less than $60, consider it the exception to the rule. I've looked into it, and I've had friends who have looked for it as well. One guy looked for this game for nearly two years and never got a deal.

Besides, we've already had the rare vs value discussion a couple of days ago. Rarity does not equal high value. Braindead 13 for the PSOne is fairly rare, but it's price rarely climbs over $20. Power Serve 3D Tennis is supposed to be even rarer, but it sells for $5.

[-Never4ever-]

Back when this first came out my friend left it over my house (never saw him again), a few months later I sold it for $13 ](*,) ](*,)](*,)](*,) ](*,)](*,)](*,) ](*,)](*,)](*,) ](*,)](*,)

[captainfrizo]

I'm really regretting not getting this game for $20 a couple of years ago at Fred Meyers. I have the original (in great shape too), and I always wanted to play the sequel, but I passed on it. Not to mention the fact that the game is worth an insane amount of cash now. Damn.

[XboxMaster]

I'm pretty sure I've seen a few of these for $19.99 at EB. I also saw Suikoden III for the same price, is that worth it?

[xzafixz]

You guys act like spending this much money for a good game is a bad deal. A game is worth as much as it is worth to you, but now those people that are buying dragon ball GT final bout for 100+ just because it is rare, those people need to be killed

[Valkryst]

I found a copy of S2 last year unopened for $50 at wizards of the coast.

I bought it opened it and I've only played it that one time.

ATM i'm working on getting all the characters is S1 then all of then in S2 then S3.

^^

[Zenithian Legend]

Good find, I guess. But man over 100 bones for a game is out of my league. I don't care how many times I play through it, I could never justify paying that much for one single game.

Honestly, I try to avoid spending more than $100 for a game system itself

[Maynard]

dude i didn't know suikoden II was worth taht much i have the game and guide just chillin in my collection dammit i would have sold for a bargain price of 60.00 bucks dammmit!!!!!


dizoh


meyNERD

[bileanddecay]

I actually have a mint Suikoden 2 guide and MIB sealed Suikoden 2 game on ebay. Go ahead and look to see what it's going for.

I'd like to disclose a warning to viewers: some of the prices you ar about to see are disturbing and shocking, and certainly not for the faint of heart.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8103427102&category=15 302&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8103428441&category=62 053&sspagename=STRK%3AMESSE%3AIT&rd=1

I love capitalism. But god bless whoever wins these, they are a pretty rare find these days, especially the guide.

[Maynard]

thats the most fucking ridiculous thing i've ever seen.!!!! IF it was chrono Trigger (which i still have a used and new one in box) i would pay alot for b/c chrono trigger owns all but wow that's alot for that game!

too each his own

meyNERD

[PsyClerk]

I'm pretty sure I've seen a few of these for $19.99 at EB.

I call shenanigans. The original Suikoden has gone for $40 in fairly crappy condition at every EB I've visited (and had a copy). If you saw the sequel with a $20 price tag, it was either a very serious error, someone had changed the sticker, or you saw a VERY oddball copy.

[bob_the_goon]

My local EB has had multiple copies of the first suikoden of late, for $19.99. I looked everywhere for the second one, and the best I could do was $69.99 for a very beat disk only copy at an EB, which I didn't buy because I wasn't at all sure it would still work.

[Rodimus]

I read alot of people saying it's stupid to spend that much money on a game. I think it's stupid if you're an RPG fan and you "don't" own this game. Suikoden 2 is very pricey, but I belive well worth it. And once you own it, unless they make it a greatest hits like FF Tactics, it probably won't go down in price. It'll only go up. So get one if ya got the cash, not only is it a great game, but a great investment.

[Mr. Anderson]

You know you want Suikoden II so much you start having dreams about a dude selling it to you for 20 bucks.....not that I had any dream of that sort.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

Suikoden II is NOT that hard to find. Go to Gamestop.com and do a search on it, use their find a copy service and put in your ZIP code and select a 100 mile radius. When you find a store that has it, call them, ask what condition it's in and if you're happy with the description they give you call YOUR Gamestop and have them get an item/inventory transfer from the store that has it. It's a very little known feature they offer and can only be done if you've done you're homework on the website. Your price, because of the guide, was very fair. That is not a bad deal IMHO considering it's going used for $49.99 at EB or Gamestop.

[Mr. Anderson]

I tried that out, and theres only one within a 100 miles of me that has it! Luckily, it's less than 10 minutes away. Thanks Pittsburgh. That completley slipped my mind.

[MadFlava]

You guys act like spending this much money for a good game is a bad deal. A game is worth as much as it is worth to you, but now those people that are buying dragon ball GT final bout for 100+ just because it is rare, those people need to be killed

Agree, no game is worth more than it's original MSRP. So I wouldn't pay more than $50 for a game. If it's used, I wouldn't pay more than $40.

I love videogames but I think the whole "rare" and collection stuff is just going out of hand.
As for people say that this is a great investment, what planet do you come from? Your better off saving you money and purchasing a real investment like a house.

[dracula]

i got mine for $20 on ebgames.com a few years back(used), beat it and it sat in my collection auntil recently I saw that it sold for huge amounts on ebay. I was like "no game is worth more than $50 much less $100 for a single game." so I listed mine on ebay with a $105 buyitnow and it sold like an hour after I put it up on ebay. I feel like a skunk for selling it for that much but I figure in a few years konami will come out with suikoden 1,2,3 GH on one disc. So then all those suckas paying $100+ will feel the shaft.

And gamestop.com is wrong half the time anyways.

[JSweeney]

I doubt that Suikoden will ever get a collection, considering that many, many more well known series haven't been given that treatment.
Heck, Konami's own Castlevania series hasn't even had that treatment, and it's a more well known series that Suikoden.

I'd guess there would be a slight chance of Suikoden 2 getting a repress in the last days of the PS1, but the chance is almost nil that they'd actually do a "Suikoden Collection". I mean, Konami's even stepping away from using the save data from the previous game in Suikoden 4.

[jpdunphy]

I bought this one the first week it came out for $39.99. I thought it was good, not holy crap good but decent. I dunno, I liked the first one better, personally. Therefore, I might consider unloading mine, since I really don't give a crap about collecting it. Mint condition, boys and girls, any takers?

[defender]

You should have your CAG membership revoked for paying that much! Seriously...thats a hard nut to crack. I am still perplexed by gamers and RPGs. They always insist on buying games when they are "rare". I had this on my shelf forever and then one day it was valuable. Do you realize this is a PSone game!!! The PS2 is available. It's like you can make money easy just by purchasing multiple copies of every new RPG and waiting about 2-3 years to double your money. Why do RPG fans refuse to buy a game for $50 on release yet go on Ebay and pay $50-$150 when the title is old. This doesnt happen in any other genre really as much as RPGs. A couple good puzzle games and a DBZ game..but DBZ is bought not because it is a good game but because its a cartoon collectable that people want (final bout sucks as do most DBZ titles).

Why not take the $120 you spent and find 3 new releases that are great games? 3 Games are always better than 1.

[MadFlava]

I find the whole collectible video game thing to be silly. If games are collectibles now then shouldn't my old Atari stuff be worth something. Seriously, paying over $50 for a PS One game is just not worth it for me. Then again, I buy games that I want to play and be entertained with, not to sell them to make a profit off of them.

[Rodimus]

It seems to piss people off that you spent over $100 for Suikoden 2.

[starman9000]

You should have your CAG membership revoked for paying that much! Seriously...thats a hard nut to crack. I am still perplexed by gamers and RPGs. They always insist on buying games when they are "rare". I had this on my shelf forever and then one day it was valuable. Do you realize this is a PSone game!!! The PS2 is available. It's like you can make money easy just by purchasing multiple copies of every new RPG and waiting about 2-3 years to double your money. Why do RPG fans refuse to buy a game for $50 on release yet go on Ebay and pay $50-$150 when the title is old. This doesnt happen in any other genre really as much as RPGs. A couple good puzzle games and a DBZ game..but DBZ is bought not because it is a good game but because its a cartoon collectable that people want (final bout sucks as do most DBZ titles).

Why not take the $120 you spent and find 3 new releases that are great games? 3 Games are always better than 1.

You are very right, its confusing. Id say the next closest has to be those shooters, like Ikaruga and Rez. Yeah they are fun, but why pay a ton. Funny thing is I think when Ikaruga was harder to come by people would be willing to pay 50 for its, but as soon as it became available for 20, its like it must not be that good anymore.

[jeffreyjrose]

You should have your CAG membership revoked for paying that much! Seriously...thats a hard nut to crack. I am still perplexed by gamers and RPGs. They always insist on buying games when they are "rare". I had this on my shelf forever and then one day it was valuable. Do you realize this is a PSone game!!! The PS2 is available. It's like you can make money easy just by purchasing multiple copies of every new RPG and waiting about 2-3 years to double your money. Why do RPG fans refuse to buy a game for $50 on release yet go on Ebay and pay $50-$150 when the title is old. This doesnt happen in any other genre really as much as RPGs. A couple good puzzle games and a DBZ game..but DBZ is bought not because it is a good game but because its a cartoon collectable that people want (final bout sucks as do most DBZ titles).

Why not take the $120 you spent and find 3 new releases that are great games? 3 Games are always better than 1.

You are very right, its confusing. Id say the next closest has to be those shooters, like Ikaruga and Rez. Yeah they are fun, but why pay a ton. Funny thing is I think when Ikaruga was harder to come by people would be willing to pay 50 for its, but as soon as it became available for 20, its like it must not be that good anymore.
You both are on to something here; if it's expensive, it must be good! (Flawed American thinking...)

[Theenternal]

Im surprised some of you are so upset, and are mildly flaming me about some aspects of this purchase :P .

Ive been trying to find this in like new/mint condition for sometime now and I have only seen the price for this condition go from 60 to 80 then 120 over time. I loved the first one, and besides being rare, many rpg fans consider one of the best rpgs to play on the playstation

Honestly

I could have easilly gone on irc/or grabbed a torrent and downloaded a copy. But we know thats not the right thing to do.. correct? :)

I wasn't concerned about giving in to "the man" and paying high priced, I just wanted to play this game.

So what should I do If I want to play this game?

And if this had any signs of becoming a GH I would have waited.

This is how I wieghed out my decision,

As someone posted earlier, the Guide is quite expensive as well. The guide I received should go between 45-50 on ebay for its condition. So that brings my price for the game to roughly 70. Which is below the avg price for this game. (90-110)
And many of you have paid 70 for importing, etc

I considered my opportunity cost of searching, and its about equal for me to sit at work for an extra hour overtime compared to driving and getting it locally if i could find it for 50.

So altough it was not cheap...it was cheap in comparision of the avg price of this game.

BTW 1000 :P

I sold a sealed chrono for 300 a few years ago, it seems people are more understanding towards that game :roll: Or Radiant Silvergun/Panzer Dragoon Saga etc.

If I dont like the game, Im sure I can sell it back on ebay and make at least 150.

[defender]

ok..at least you are smart enough to just want to simply play it and then resell it..so thats smart

but honestly I dont think Suikoden II will maintain that price point very long

What happens if Konami does a small reprint? When a game hits that high a mark its time to call the company and demand a repressing. They might do it...Symphony of the Night got a repressing and it was $60-$100 for quite a while. Not to pay over $30 for it is stupid and there are lots on ebay for under $20 new.

If it wasnt for a few crazy bidders on ebay the game would trade in regular forums for $40-$75.