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jer7583
07-19-2005, 03:32 AM
We just got this memo in our stores tonight. The disputes between valve and the originally planned publisher for Half Life 2 on Xbox have resulted in EA making a successful bid for the rights to publish the Xbox Half Life 2.

I bet you EA fucks it up. I know I won't be purchasing it new. My computer won't run it and i won't be getting a new one, so I was looking forward to the xbox version a lot, but not so much anymore. I hate supporting EA.

zionoverfire
07-19-2005, 03:33 AM
Hmmm said with all that triple repost goodness.

DT778
07-19-2005, 03:34 AM
http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/%7Ecms223/hateraid.gif

jer7583
07-19-2005, 03:55 AM
I didn't see this posted anywhere on the xbox forum, maybe I should have checked the general gaming forum

The VGM
07-19-2005, 03:55 AM
Jesus your PC must suck if it can't run HL2. And where is Scorch. He's slackin.

Scorch
07-19-2005, 03:56 AM
Jesus your PC must suck if it can't run HL2. And where is Scorch. He's slackin.

:sad:

I'M ONLY HUMAN! DAMNIT, JIM!

Saucy Jack
07-19-2005, 03:58 AM
And where is Scorch. He's slackin.

Cut the guy a break. He is celebrating 20 years of existence today.

However, after today... you must slack no more! MWAH HA HA HA HA!

The VGM
07-19-2005, 04:17 AM
:sad:

I'M ONLY HUMAN! DAMNIT, JIM!

Unacceptable.

R1V3R5
07-19-2005, 04:23 AM
EA can be no worse than Vivendi-Universal. Really.

rocksolidaudio
07-19-2005, 04:26 AM
EA can be no worse than Vivendi-Universal. Really.

do a bit of research about EA's 'acquisitions' over the last year and a half before you say such silly things...

R1V3R5
07-19-2005, 04:34 AM
do a bit of research about EA's 'acquisitions' over the last year and a half before you say such silly things...


I know EA is evil and sucks and what not but Vivendi-Universal are really just as bad. There is a reason Valve has fought a long legal battle to get away from Vivendi-Universal. They are both shitty publishers, really.

PittsburghAfterDark
07-19-2005, 05:04 AM
EA destroys every studio it acquires. How someone can think that Origin, Bullfrog, Westwood Studios weren't good enough anymore is beyond me.

Hell, they would have folded Bungie or had them make Sims expansion backs. They would have thought Bioware would have made a swell kart racing team.

EA can't make an original franchise period. Even Nintendo came up with Pikmin in the last 5 years, EA has made exactly nothing new worth playing.

R1V3R5
07-19-2005, 05:13 AM
However, EA is still *just* publishing the game. Valve is very weary of publishers (since they have been screwed over in the past) and a big evil company like EA is no exception.

hiccupleftovers
07-19-2005, 05:38 AM
Like the OP put it, I was really hoping for the Xbox version of this game, especially since my comp. can't run it, but now this just sucks. Won't be buying it new like I planned anymore, and will definitely wait on it. EA sucks, end of story and they'll probably aquire Valve after this like they've done in the past to Criterion, etc. I'm still amazed they haven't taken Free Radical yet.

jer7583
07-19-2005, 10:29 AM
Im sorry, not all of us can afford pc gaming with its yearly $500 upgrades.

I use my computer to do computer stuff, like papers and homework and research. The Pentium 3-500 I bought 6 years ago does that just fine for me.

This will probably get me flamed real bad, but IMHO, PC gaming is a joke and I never play games on my pc if i can avoid it.

Quackzilla
07-19-2005, 10:48 AM
Valve has no publisher ties, and the intellectal property is theirs, if EA tries to buy them out Valve can disappear and Gabe Newell and the rest of the team can start a new company.

Valve is ultra paranoid about publishers, Vivendi actually tried to STEAL HL2, selling it retail without permission and without giving Valve any profit, they even tried to take the intellectual property rights.

MaxBiaggi2
07-19-2005, 10:52 AM
Im sorry, not all of us can afford pc gaming with its yearly $500 upgrades.

Perhaps you might check with the resident gaming gurus at GameFAQs. I've had geniuses there swear to me that a gaming-caliber PC is inexpensive to build and maintain yourself. :D (I don't believe a word of it. . .)

organicow
07-19-2005, 10:57 AM
I'm just pissed that the XB version isn't going to include multiplayer....

And while my computer can handle HL just fine, I'm just not much into PC gaming. Not due to the usual debate of keyboard/mouse vs. controller, but moreso because I like to recline in my armchair rather than sit at my desk when I play games. No PC-hatin' here - its just a matter of my preference.

PS - hey OP, you misspelled 'purpouse' in your sig...

greydemise
07-19-2005, 11:02 AM
Im sorry, not all of us can afford pc gaming with its yearly $500 upgrades.

I use my computer to do computer stuff, like papers and homework and research. The Pentium 3-500 I bought 6 years ago does that just fine for me.

This will probably get me flamed real bad, but IMHO, PC gaming is a joke and I never play games on my pc if i can avoid it.


i dont see y ud get flamed for this, every1 2 his own right :)? but eh EA making hl-2 :\..i havent had too much fun with an EA game since the sims 2 (surprisingly good..but the expansions they published for the older one blew and blew..) and medal of honor frontline, after that :\..its just really ..well boring, ill be def waiting for awhile since my comp cant run this either, or maybe a rental will serve me fine...thx for the heads up

chickenhawk
07-19-2005, 11:11 AM
I'm kinda sick of the EA bashing. Sure, it sucks that they are trying to take over everything, but that's business....get over it. They are only publishing the damn thing!! It's so sheik around here to bash EA and Best Buy and similar companies it drives me insane. If EA was developing it, OK, I can see your problem, but how exactly will EA screw the game up by publishing it?

PittsburghAfterDark
07-19-2005, 01:22 PM
I'm kinda sick of the EA bashing. Sure, it sucks that they are trying to take over everything, but that's business....get over it. They are only publishing the damn thing!! It's so sheik around here to bash EA and Best Buy and similar companies it drives me insane. If EA was developing it, OK, I can see your problem, but how exactly will EA screw the game up by publishing it?

Shiek is an Islamic teacher. Chic is "cool". Spelling is your friend.

EA is only publishing the damn thing???

Here's another title they just published; Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath. When they couldn't get the PS2 code up and running they didn't even try to market the game and it sold like shit. Result: Oddworld left the gaming industry after 10 years of development.

But hey, EA had nothing to do with it.... they just published the game. Who do you think does the marketing? Buys commecials? Magazine ads? Why it's the publisher! Marketing makes or breaks games and EA's lack therof killed Oddworld as a game developer.

Scorch
07-19-2005, 01:24 PM
It's so sheik around here to bash EA and Best Buy and similar companies it drives me insane.

http://www.eagle-sports.com/Photos/Sheik.jpg?

Roufuss
07-19-2005, 01:32 PM
I'm kinda sick of the EA bashing. Sure, it sucks that they are trying to take over everything, but that's business....get over it. They are only publishing the damn thing!! It's so sheik around here to bash EA and Best Buy and similar companies it drives me insane. If EA was developing it, OK, I can see your problem, but how exactly will EA screw the game up by publishing it?

EA bashing isn't just regulated to here - visit any "gamer" forum on you will see it. To a hardcore gamer, EA represents everything they hate about the industry. Licensed games that sell well to the casual gamer, that the hardcore look down upon... they'll find any reason to go up in arms about EA.

It's amazing how many football fans suddenly came out of the woodwork when ESPN 2k5 came out at 19.99 to compete against EA... "I haven't bought a football game in years, but I'll buy this one to stick it to EA!!"

kill3r7
07-19-2005, 01:38 PM
EA publishing this game has no bearing on how good the game is going to be. Burnout 3 was great as was Stranger, Def Jam fight for NY, Madden.

The game isn't beign developed by EA so don't worry about. This is half-life 2 so don't worry about the quality of the gameplay. I promise you this won't be another Goldeneye.

Quackzilla
07-19-2005, 01:43 PM
It's already developed, it was released last year.


If you are going to buy it, go to www.steampowered.com and download Steam.

Steam is a service where you buy a game, it becomes associated with your account, and you can download it (if you have 56k you will probably have to buy a disk).

Steam also provided automatic updates for all of your Steam based games.

And best of all, EA doesn't get a penny from Steam sales, 100% of the dough goes to Valve (and a good part of it then goes to paying for the massive amount of bandwidth that they let you use for free).

ryanbph
07-19-2005, 01:55 PM
I have no problem with EA either. I thought I had read on gamestop, that this is only for values older games. Going forward, I believe it stated that valve will release the games only thru steam. That is what I got out of the article on gamespot

flybrione
07-19-2005, 01:57 PM
EA published Odd World Stranger and that game was fantastic.
I'm sure Valve will not let EA mess this up.

I bet EA will even market the hell out of this game and new relastionship unlike what they did with Stranger.

Stranger got some decent publicity from magazines and reviews and people still did not buy it, similar to Psychonaunts which was another great title for Xbox.
Both of these games do not really fit the style of the "casual gamer."

I met some people over the weekend at Miller Park that I would consider a typical/casual gamer but the newest games they played were GTA-SA and Madden 05.

I told them I recently played Stranger, Conker, Pyschonaunts and Killer7 (currently) and they told me they never even heard of them. If the hardcore gamer does not support the titles and the hardcore community is much smaller than the typical/casual gamer of course the titles are not going to sell well.

I have heard many on the site saying they would not purchase Pyschonaunts until it hit the $20 range same with Stranger.

SAGExSDX
07-20-2005, 05:08 AM
Shiek is an Islamic teacher. Chic is "cool". Spelling is your friend.

:lol: :rofl: :lol:

Here's another title they just published; Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath. When they couldn't get the PS2 code up and running they didn't even try to market the game and it sold like shit. Result: Oddworld left the gaming industry after 10 years of development.

that is quite sad... i remember reading through Penny Arcade about the owner of the IP saying he's leaving the game business

chickenhawk
07-20-2005, 11:45 AM
Shiek is an Islamic teacher. Chic is "cool". Spelling is your friend.

EA is only publishing the damn thing???

Here's another title they just published; Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath. When they couldn't get the PS2 code up and running they didn't even try to market the game and it sold like shit. Result: Oddworld left the gaming industry after 10 years of development.

But hey, EA had nothing to do with it.... they just published the game. Who do you think does the marketing? Buys commecials? Magazine ads? Why it's the publisher! Marketing makes or breaks games and EA's lack therof killed Oddworld as a game developer.

Actually, if you want to be all proper, the word "chic" likely was derived from "sheik." "Sheik", in addition to meaning an Islamic teacher or leader (as you have indicated) also means, "a man who is much concerned with his dress or appearence." Which I imagine is where the term "chic" came from. The spelling was changed to be more hollywood, or "chic" perhaps. Even if the above wasn't the case, spelling would not have been my demise in this case....using the improper version of the word would have. When you want to be a spelling/grammar elitist, at least be accurate with your comments.

As far as Stranger's Wrath goes, that is sad. I didn't know that was the case. After 10 years of development, it's also sad that they were blown off the map by this one mishap. Could it be possible that EA wasn't the only factor in their demise? Even if EA was the only source, what are the odds that this will happen with Half Life 2? It seemed the OP was trying to suggest that EA publishing it would ruin the game somehow. I don't think anyone has to market Half Life 2 for it to sell. I'm not going to argue that EA is not bad for the business, but the EA bashing is still annoying as hell because people take it the extreme sometimes. If Half Life 2 was your most wanted game and now you refuse to buy it new so as to not support EA, that is retarded IMHO. You are also not supporting the developer than right?

Also, thank you for the revelation on what a publisher does. I needed the lesson. :roll:

el bobo
07-20-2005, 12:39 PM
Perhaps you might check with the resident gaming gurus at GameFAQs. I've had geniuses there swear to me that a gaming-caliber PC is inexpensive to build and maintain yourself. :D (I don't believe a word of it. . .)
Key word there.

evanft
07-20-2005, 03:00 PM
EA bashing isn't just regulated to here - visit any "gamer" forum on you will see it. To a hardcore gamer, EA represents everything they hate about the industry. Licensed games that sell well to the casual gamer, that the hardcore look down upon... they'll find any reason to go up in arms about EA.

It's amazing how many football fans suddenly came out of the woodwork when ESPN 2k5 came out at 19.99 to compete against EA... "I haven't bought a football game in years, but I'll buy this one to stick it to EA!!"

They bought it because it was cheap. Budget games sell very well. Look at NARC. That game sucks, yet it was in the top ten when it was released. EPSN was a great game, though.

Is everyone forgetting that Microsoft was supposed to publish Oddworld: SW, but dropped it? Why isn't anyone blaming them?

jam3582
07-20-2005, 03:07 PM
Im sorry, not all of us can afford pc gaming with its yearly $500 upgrades.

I use my computer to do computer stuff, like papers and homework and research. The Pentium 3-500 I bought 6 years ago does that just fine for me.

This will probably get me flamed real bad, but IMHO, PC gaming is a joke and I never play games on my pc if i can avoid it.

Hey its not a joke now gaming on a mac is a joke (doh did I say that :wall: ).

evanft
07-20-2005, 03:10 PM
PC gaming is VERY cost prohibitive, unless you wanna wait like five years to play a game.

hiccupleftovers
07-20-2005, 03:12 PM
EA bashing isn't just regulated to here - visit any "gamer" forum on you will see it. To a hardcore gamer, EA represents everything they hate about the industry. Licensed games that sell well to the casual gamer, that the hardcore look down upon... they'll find any reason to go up in arms about EA.

It's amazing how many football fans suddenly came out of the woodwork when ESPN 2k5 came out at 19.99 to compete against EA... "I haven't bought a football game in years, but I'll buy this one to stick it to EA!!"

I agree entirely. You hit the nail right on the head.

chickenhawk
07-20-2005, 03:23 PM
Shiek is an Islamic teacher. Chic is "cool". Spelling is your friend.


Oh, I forgot......Shiek is actually spelled.....oh, look at that....SHEIK. Apparently spelling is not your friend.

GuilewasNK
07-21-2005, 03:27 PM
I'm kinda sick of the EA bashing. Sure, it sucks that they are trying to take over everything, but that's business....get over it. They are only publishing the damn thing!! It's so sheik around here to bash EA and Best Buy and similar companies it drives me insane. If EA was developing it, OK, I can see your problem, but how exactly will EA screw the game up by publishing it?

Agreed.

And on Oddworld....

The series had always been a critical success since the first PS One games, but it was never a hit along the lines of RE, Halo, Socom or whatever games you can think of. EA had nothing to do with them before (I think it was GT Interactive on the PS One but I am not sure) and they still were cult favorites at best. I enjoyed the games but saying EA's marketing caused the downfall of Oddworld doesn't make sense. That game was getting TONS of coverage in gaming mags and on the internet. Oddworld suffered the same fate as Shiny for the same reasons (remember Earthworm Jim). They had way too high of an opinion of themselves.

sj41
07-21-2005, 04:00 PM
I was thinking about buying Oddworld before I found out EA was publishing it. So, it's partly EA's fault that they lost some sales.

GuilewasNK
07-21-2005, 04:05 PM
I was thinking about buying Oddworld before I found out EA was publishing it. So, it's partly EA's fault that they lost some sales.

You mean the only reason you didn't buy it was because you found out EA was publishing it?

chickenhawk
07-21-2005, 04:08 PM
You mean the only reason you didn't buy it was because you found out EA was publishing it?

If that's the case.....:roll:

Roufuss
07-21-2005, 04:14 PM
I was thinking about buying Oddworld before I found out EA was publishing it. So, it's partly EA's fault that they lost some sales.

I would say your own stupidity is to blame for them losing a sale, not EA.

Brak
07-21-2005, 04:17 PM
The only set backs are the monsterous EA logo on the cover art and the shit-ass Live servers (if there is Live play).

sj41
07-21-2005, 04:49 PM
No. That's why I said partly.

EDIT- Although I might have put partly in the wrong part of that sentence.

radjago
07-23-2005, 07:15 PM
The only set backs are the monsterous EA logo on the cover art and the shit-ass Live servers (if there is Live play).
No Live support as far as I've heard, multiplayer-wise. It might be aware if we're lucky.