Mike Tyson and Jenna Jamison may do a Porn film together

[Xevious]

Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/08-04-2005/news/gossip/story/334206p-285549c.html

A hit below the belt?

Mike Tyson might be turning from his fists to another body part to make a living.

The former champ says he's been approached by reps for porn star Jenna Jameson to co-star in a X-rated movie.

The free-spending pugilist, who was pummeled recently by the tax man, says he told Jameson's people, "I need the money up front."

Boxing writer Pedro Fernandez recalled in Zoo magazine that, "according to court documentation from Tyson's rape trial, his member is at least 14 inches long. If Tyson brings out some of the ferocity that made him a champion, he could definitely become a successful porn star."

The muscleman has been spending this week on the beaches of Saint-Tropez with some shapely ladies. Maybe he's in training.

[Chris in Cali]

Watch as he has trouble getting an erection, and then commits suicide.

[Quackzilla]

Who wants to watch old people having sex?

And I seriously doubt Tyson has a 14 inch wang, thats probably a typo and it's really 4 inches. There is no way he could have worn boxer shorts with a wang like that, idle it would have to be like 5 inches, and if he got a boner it would be almost to his knee.

[Jaket]

JJ= :bouncy: :bouncy:
MT= :puke:

[hiccupleftovers]

There's no way he has a 14 inch boner. But pretty funny news story.

[JimmieMac]

I wonder if he's got a tattoo on his cock. I mean, he's got one on his face so what's stopping him from puttin' Malcolm X on his tip? Nuttin'.

[evilmax17]

It'd be worth it for the audio alone, although I'd be scared that Tyson would just start punching her in the face.

[kittie]

I like the guy with "POISON" tattooed on his dick... he usually bangs Rachel Rotten.

Jenna is boring. Like all plastic girls.

[RedvsBlue]

So, what's he gonna bite off this time?

[greydemise]

....one night in chyna, one night in paris..one night in...jenna? no no, it dusnt work!!

[Xevious]

Jenna is boring. Like all plastic girls.

Plastics is the way of the future. I learned that by watcing the "Graduate"

[smellhasreturned]

please no

[Apossum]

:rofl:

[Graystone]

That porn will be super funny if he talks though the whole thing.

[hiccupleftovers]

It'd be worth it for the audio alone, although I'd be scared that Tyson would just start punching her in the face.

I'd be scared that Tyson would bite somthing;)

[RedvsBlue]

I'd be scared that Tyson would bite somthing;)


I already used that joke, 7 posts ago...

[zewone]

What if he bit something?...

[hiccupleftovers]

I already used that joke, 7 posts ago...

I missed it, but it deserves to be mentioned again anyway. Seriously, the guy is kind of creepy in person and he gives you the feel that he might just bite you if you do something wrong.

[RedvsBlue]

What if he bit something?...

Well I can see for sure that NO ONE is reading any of the other posts on this thread because THAT is almost word for word what I posted. At least Hiccupleftovers's joke was a variation.

[MaxBiaggi2]

Who wants to watch old people having sex?

Old people maybe? Remember, they vote and they're appearing in larger and larger numbers each year as healthcare and medical technology advances. There just might be an audience for this one afterall. :D

[Arakias]

Maybe they would be in the same movie together, but probably not acting as Jenna is married and only does females in movies now.

[RedvsBlue]

Old people maybe? Remember, they vote and they're appearing in larger and larger numbers each year as healthcare and medical technology advances. There just might be an audience for this one afterall. :D


If old people were watching this its just because someone put the tape in and moved their walker out of their reach.

[sabin23]

I doubt JJ would be doing this considering her "lofty" position in the porn industry... unless it's going to be a extremely "huge" payday for her.

[TheRock88]

Maybe they would be in the same movie together, but probably not acting as Jenna is married and only does females in movies now.

Thats what I'm wondering too. It's probably a fake story because Jenna said the only guy she would have sex with on tape is with her husband or girls only.

[Snake2715]

Its not a fake story but it hasnt developed into anything.

Mike was approached by the jameson team and thats that. Nothing has come from it. He had considered it but actually wants to do mssionionary work for 3rd world countires.

Some of the comments in here remind me of 12 year old school boys saying the PS2 is the best system because of reason x. Uninformed.

The whole biting thing is so old its not even funny. 'The Warrior' is a dirty fighter also.

There are also rumors of Tyson going into K1. Yes I am a fan.

*edit
It is proved false.. . the full interview is available at boxingtalk..


GL: It seems a lot of peope picked up on our last interview, unfortunately all of the people who picked it up, Jay Leno, Jim Rome, the papers, the one thing they focused on was the stupid line about porn, which I kind of regret keeping in there.

Mike Tyson: "I thought that was pretty cool though. That's not something I'm really serious about doing, but it was funny how many people made something out of nothing."

[zewone]

Well I can see for sure that NO ONE is reading any of the other posts on this thread because THAT is almost word for word what I posted. At least Hiccupleftovers's joke was a variation.
I was making a joke.

[Apossum]

Mike Tyson: "I thought that was pretty cool though. That's not something I'm really serious about doing, but it was funny how many people made something out of nothing."

Boooo!!! that would've been the best comedy ever.

[smellhasreturned]

*in 7 year old voice* Hey baaaby wheeere dooo i put dis sthing ? oh my god its 2 hard !

[Snake2715]

*in 7 year old voice* Hey baaaby wheeere dooo i put dis sthing ? oh my god its 2 hard !

I have to say one thing about this. And I wont be back here to defend "little, old, washed up" mikey after this. But you honestly think he wouldnt know where to put it? Shit he has had so many women its not even funny.

You dont get to be:

'The Baddest Man on the Planet' and be as rip, rich, and powerful as he was and not have any women crawling all over you. Anybody with 1/3 of what he had (fame, Money, power, physically huge) has all sorts of women.

bad attempt

[GuilewasNK]

Mike Tyson in porn. That's got to be the stupidest thing I ever heard.

[Grave_Addiction]

What if he bit something? Tee hee.

[Xevious]

I wondering how many "biting jokes" will this thread have........hmmmmmmm.

[I AM WILLIAM H. MACY]

I bet he'll bite it.

And by it, I mean this thread.

[kittie]

I doubt JJ would be doing this considering her "lofty" position in the porn industry... unless it's going to be a extremely "huge" payday for her.

It would definitely be a big payday. I don't see any way she wouldn't accept this offer.

[zewone]

Jenna is boring. Like all plastic girls.

"But this little sexpot’s ultimate dream scene would be with Jenna Jameson, Jessica Jaymes, Jesse Jane, Devon, Teagan Presley, and Cytherea all at once." - Porn interview done with CAG's very own kittie

NSFW
http://www.suze-centerfolds.com/pages/Karlie%20Montana.htm

[el bobo]

"But this little sexpot’s ultimate dream scene would be with Jenna Jameson, Jessica Jaymes, Jesse Jane, Devon, Teagan Presley, and Cytherea all at once." - Porn interview done with CAG's very own kittie

NSFW
http://www.suze-centerfolds.com/pages/Karlie%20Montana.htm
Very informative. :drool:

[Stoneage]

I wonder if Glass Joe or Soda Popinski will make cameos.

Stoneage: Keeping this thread bite free as long as possible.

[AdamInPlaidum]

Well I can see for sure that NO ONE is reading any of the other posts on this thread because THAT is almost word for word what I posted. At least Hiccupleftovers's joke was a variation.

You are dense.

Also, Jenna should be afraid he bites something.

[Biglesworth23]

I wonder if Glass Joe or Soda Popinski will make cameos.

Stoneage: Keeping this thread bite free as long as possible.

Hahahahahahaha!

[crickett003]

Don't you think he would at least nibble on something??



;)

[XboxHardcore.com]

Hahahaha.

[kittie]

"But this little sexpot’s ultimate dream scene would be with Jenna Jameson, Jessica Jaymes, Jesse Jane, Devon, Teagan Presley, and Cytherea all at once." - Porn interview done with CAG's very own kittie

NSFW
http://www.suze-centerfolds.com/pages/Karlie%20Montana.htm

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[zewone]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[evilmojo12542]

14" my ass! steroids make your wang smaller from what I hear and I amsure he has used more than his fair share of steroids. he might have a higher pitched voice than jenna

[b0bx13]

"But this little sexpot’s ultimate dream scene would be with Jenna Jameson, Jessica Jaymes, Jesse Jane, Devon, Teagan Presley, and Cytherea all at once." - Porn interview done with CAG's very own kittie

NSFW
http://www.suze-centerfolds.com/pages/Karlie%20Montana.htm
:rofl: :rofl: :applause:

[jaykrue]

"But this little sexpot’s ultimate dream scene would be with Jenna Jameson, Jessica Jaymes, Jesse Jane, Devon, Teagan Presley, and Cytherea all at once." - Porn interview done with CAG's very own kittie

NSFW
http://www.suze-centerfolds.com/pages/Karlie%20Montana.htm

Is that article accurate? I've heard kittie mention she was of Russian ancestry while that article claims she's only of italian, irish, and german descent.

[GuilewasNK]

Is that article accurate? I've heard kittie mention she was of Russian ancestry while that article claims she's only of italian, irish, and german descent.

The pics are all that matter!

[GuilewasNK]

Mike Tyson is just about the LAST person I want to see having sex. He is already a convicted rapist.

[gsr]

Mike Tyson is just about the LAST person I want to see having sex. He is already a convicted rapist.

ding ding ding! the first post that makes some sense in this thread

Do you want a rapist doing porn? Some people are sick

[Xevious]

Is that article accurate? I've heard kittie mention she was of Russian ancestry while that article claims she's only of italian, irish, and german descent.

She's pretty hot for a Mutt. :bouncy: Heh heh heh

[crickett003]

...Do you want a rapist doing porn? Some people are sick

Yeah, but there are a lot of people that would pay for that.

[adrianchan56]

lol, awesome what other washed up celeb will enter the pr0n industry.

[jaykrue]

She's pretty hot for a Mutt. :bouncy: Heh heh heh

Most of the mutts I've met tend to be on the hot side (though they're usually mixes that aren't often seen like asian/black, indian/white, etc.).:lol:

[zewone]

Is that article accurate? I've heard kittie mention she was of Russian ancestry while that article claims she's only of italian, irish, and german descent.
Do you still believe her? Why would the real Karlie lie about her ethnicity? :)

[kittie]

Is that article accurate? I've heard kittie mention she was of Russian ancestry while that article claims she's only of italian, irish, and german descent.

Everything you read in porn articles are true...

We all want your big, hard stuff.

[jaykrue]

Do you still believe her? Why would the real Karlie lie about her ethnicity? :)

I don't believe anything at this point. ;) I just like throwing a wrench into a well-crafted persona that may or may not be true. :lol:

Everything you read in porn articles are true...

We all want your big, hard stuff.

Oh yeah, I'm sure. :roll: Well, that wouldn't apply to me. I'm asian so I'm highly underendowed unlike my european colleagues. Fortunately, I make that up in high volume interaction with a wide selection of females. :lol:

[2poor]

Most of the mutts I've met tend to be on the hot side (though they're usually mixes that aren't often seen like asian/black, indian/white, etc.).:lol:

black/asian :drool: Amerie
http://www.worldasia.com/images/music/people/music_amerie.jpg

[jaykrue]

black/asian :drool: Amerie
http://www.worldasia.com/images/music/people/music_amerie.jpg

Mmmmmmmmmm... :drool:

I rikey! I rikey a rot!

[2poor]

i wish there were more black/asian people like that where i live

[jaykrue]

i wish there were more black/asian people like that where i live

Are you serious? Your profile sez you're in SoCal. That's like Mutt Central! :lol: Every time I go there and visit family in LA, my cousins and I go clubbing and they ALWAYS introduce me to the hottest mutts I've seen. You must live on the wrong side of the state. You know what that means? It's time to move. :lol::bouncy:

[2poor]

well im in orange county. there's like absolutely no black people here at all. and as for the mutts here it's mostly white/mexican.

[zewone]

Everything you read in porn articles are true...

We all want your big, hard stuff.
Nice cover up, but she is right. My friend is doing porn and a lot of stuff they right about her isn't true so I'll give you that one sir.

[jaykrue]

well im in orange county. there's like absolutely no black people here at all. and as for the mutts here it's mostly white/mexican.

Well, looks like you got some packin' to do. ;) And I wouldn't count out the white/mex mix either, they're usually fun to play with also. :bouncy:

[GuilewasNK]

black/asian :drool: Amerie
http://www.worldasia.com/images/music/people/music_amerie.jpg

Yeah, Amerie is the girl of the moment for me...

Here is one I posted in another thread. She has GREAT legs.

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/953/ameriebender2005dl3tc.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ameriebender2005dl3tc.jpg)

[JSweeney]

I don't believe anything at this point. ;)

Probably the smartest way to be. What good does playing Columbo or Matlock do, save perhaps let you catch a glipse of a couple old posts or a long out of date blog, or conversations about a kitten?

I just like throwing a wrench into a well-crafted persona that may or may not be true. :lol:

Just like everyone loves to throw barbs and darts at the businessman (you) and the lawyer (javeryh), right? :D


Oh yeah, I'm sure. :roll:

Being naive, should I accept the statement, and thus ignore the obvious sarcasm... or believe the sarcasm and not the statement? I am sooo confused :D
I mean, why would anyone lie? :lol:


Well, that wouldn't apply to me.

Probably a little more info than I wanted to know, thank you very much. :lol:


I'm asian so I'm highly underendowed unlike my european colleagues.

Say like, um... Irish, German and Polish?


Fortunately, I make that up in high volume interaction with a wide selection of females.

:cry: I have no witty retort or suggestion that I could even compete in volume. :cry:

I think I'll just let some angry, hateful, and or spiteful people yell that noone cares about what I talk about. I mean, I guess if none finds me entertaining, they'll at least fight that entertaining :D ... right? :cry:

[Tromack]

Well I can see for sure that NO ONE is reading any of the other posts on this thread because THAT is almost word for word what I posted. At least Hiccupleftovers's joke was a variation.

Well, it was a crappy joke. Do you really want to claim the credit for it that badly?

[JSweeney]

Everything you read in porn articles are true...

We all want your big, hard stuff.


You know what's really sad?
I can't even imagine a world where I'd actually believe that were true. :cry:

[jaykrue]

I don't believe anything at this point. ;)

Probably the smartest way to be. What good does playing Columbo or Matlock do, save perhaps let you catch a glipse of a couple old posts or a long out of date blog, or conversations about a kitten?

I just like throwing a wrench into a well-crafted persona that may or may not be true. :lol:

Just like everyone loves to throw barbs and darts at the businessman (you) and the lawyer (javeryh), right? :D


Oh yeah, I'm sure. :roll:

Being naive, should I accept the statement, and thus ignore the obvious sarcasm... or believe the sarcasm and not the statement? I am sooo confused :D
I mean, why would anyone lie? :lol:


Well, that wouldn't apply to me.

Probably a little more info than I wanted to know, thank you very much. :lol:


I'm asian so I'm highly underendowed unlike my european colleagues.

Say like, um... Irish, German and Polish?


Fortunately, I make that up in high volume interaction with a wide selection of females.

:cry: I have no witty retort or suggestion that I could even compete in volume. :cry:

I think I'll just let some angry, hateful, and or spiteful people yell that noone cares about what I talk about. I mean, I guess if none finds me entertaining, they'll at least fight that entertaining :D ... right? :cry:

Let ppl through barbs if they want, I'm not gonna be baited into an argument like that lina fiasco. If ppl believe I'm a businessman, fine, if they don't that's fine too. But I think I've spoken about topics with a certain degree of knowledge that isn't commonly received w/o some education in the business industry (specifically real estate) that I think lends towards credibility. The same goes for javeryh. I think that I've seen him write enough to know that he's in the legal industry. But if ppl don't believe me, that's fine as well. No sweat off my back. I'll still continue to get paid and that's the important thing.

Believe the sarcasm, that's what the rolling eyes are for.

I went to an all boys Irish Catholic school. Unsurprisingly, it was called St. Patrick and and not to sound gay or anything but yeah, I've occasionally checked out my european ethnically derived classmates in the communal shower to compare and contrast and sad to find out that the stereotype (at least about us asians) is true but it only made me sad for a while until I discovered that girls, while size is important to them, can be persuaded by an enduring and cunning linguist. :lol:

Sweeney, if you didn't have so much self loathing, I'd be bowing in awe to your pimposity. It's sad that you don't see it yourself.

[GuilewasNK]

Let ppl through barbs if they want, I'm not gonna be baited into an argument like that lina fiasco. If ppl believe I'm a businessman, fine, if they don't that's fine too. But I think I've spoken about topics with a certain degree of knowledge that isn't commonly received w/o some education in the business industry (specifically real estate) that I think lends towards credibility. The same goes for javeryh. I think that I've seen him write enough to know that he's in the legal industry. But if ppl don't believe me, that's fine as well. No sweat off my back. I'll still continue to get paid and that's the important thing.



I can tell you know your stuff. It's all gravy as far as I am concerned. :)

[jaykrue]

I can tell you know your stuff. It's all gravy as far as I am concerned. :)

A thank-yah Suh!:bouncy:

[JSweeney]

Sweeney, if you didn't have so much self loathing, I'd be bowing in awe to your pimposity. It's sad that you don't see it yourself.

Maybe I should take some Carnegie courses or something.
Start looking at what I do right rather than wrong.
Looking at strengths rather than obsessing over weakness.

Give myself the same degree of latitude I allow others.

Funny how it's so much easier for me to hate myself than it is for me to hate others.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

You should always try to hate everyone else just slightly more than you hate yourself. That way, when you finally snap, you'll have to good sense to take a few of them out with you. :lol:

[jaykrue]

Sweeney, if you didn't have so much self loathing, I'd be bowing in awe to your pimposity. It's sad that you don't see it yourself.

Maybe I should take some Carnegie courses or something.
Start looking at what I do right rather than wrong.
Looking at strengths rather than obsessing over weakness.

Give myself the same degree of latitude I allow others.

Funny how it's so much easier for me to hate myself than it is for me to hate others.

See that's where you're already making your first mistake. You don't need courses to learn how to be sociablie. The key to sociability is "if you don't got something nice to say to someone, don't say it at all." You may think that may be impossible but I've learned to resist the urge not to bad-mouth someone or make a sarcastic remark (unless the fucker totally deserved it :lol: ).

Well, don't ignore what you did wrong. Use it. Failure is the thing that breeds success. Every time I fail (and I have - A LOT including in real estate), I take it as a learning experience and use it so I know what NOT to do next time. The thing that most ppl are afraid of nowadays is failing but we did that all the time as a kid so how come we, as developing (or already developed) adults, became so afraid?

Don't obsess over weakness, yes, but don't deny them either. Convert those weakness into strengths instead of find new ones. Once you've made most or all weaknesses into strengths then is the time to search for new strengths/weaknesses.

Seriously, you're only a heartbeat away from being a better pimp than me. You just have to get over this small hurdle of self loathing.

[JSweeney]

You should always try to hate everyone else just slightly more than you hate yourself. That way, when you finally snap, you'll have to good sense to take a few of them out with you. :lol:

Suicide is the one unforgivable sin. I'd never even contemplate something like that.
No matter how dark or horrible things seem, they always tend to get better after a while.

[JSweeney]

See that's where you're already making your first mistake. You don't need courses to learn how to be sociablie. The key to sociability is "if you don't got something nice to say to someone, don't say it at all."

"Everything I need to know, I learned in kindergarden", right?

You may think that may be impossible but I've learned to resist the urge not to bad-mouth someone or make a sarcastic remark (unless the fucker totally deserved it :lol: ).

Biting your tounge is actually remarkably easy once you get the hang of it.
I'm not so delerious with illusions of granduer than I assume that people wait with bated breath as the words fall from my lips like drops of golden honey.

Well, don't ignore what you did wrong. Use it. Failure is the thing that breeds success. Every time I fail (and I have - A LOT including in real estate), I take it as a learning experience and use it so I know what NOT to do next time.

There's a difference in the frame of reference though. The way you're looking at this is "How can I improve on this" rather than "what did I do to fuck up this time".
Sure the difference may seem subtle, but it defines a difference in mindset.

The thing that most ppl are afraid of nowadays is failing but we did that all the time as a kid so how come we, as developing (or already developed) adults, became so afraid?

Probably because the penalty for failure got really steep really quick.

Don't obsess over weakness, yes, but don't deny them either. Convert those weakness into strengths instead of find new ones. Once you've made most or all weaknesses into strengths then is the time to search for new strengths/weaknesses.

Again, that's a question of mindsets... one you suggest is the healthiest possible.

Seriously, you're only a heartbeat away from being a better pimp than me. You just have to get over this small hurdle of self loathing.

I'm going to assume that that is intended as a compliment, and assuming that, it's a compliment I'm happy to accept.

[jaykrue]

See that's where you're already making your first mistake. You don't need courses to learn how to be sociablie. The key to sociability is "if you don't got something nice to say to someone, don't say it at all."

"Everything I need to know, I learned in kindergarden", right?

You may think that may be impossible but I've learned to resist the urge not to bad-mouth someone or make a sarcastic remark (unless the fucker totally deserved it :lol: ).

Biting your tounge is actually remarkably easy once you get the hang of it.
I'm not so delerious with illusions of granduer than I assume that people wait with bated breath as the words fall from my lips like drops of golden honey.

Well, don't ignore what you did wrong. Use it. Failure is the thing that breeds success. Every time I fail (and I have - A LOT including in real estate), I take it as a learning experience and use it so I know what NOT to do next time.

There's a difference in the frame of reference though. The way you're looking at this is "How can I improve on this" rather than "what did I do to fuck up this time".
Sure the difference may seem subtle, but it defines a difference in mindset.

The thing that most ppl are afraid of nowadays is failing but we did that all the time as a kid so how come we, as developing (or already developed) adults, became so afraid?

Probably because the penalty for failure got really steep really quick.

Don't obsess over weakness, yes, but don't deny them either. Convert those weakness into strengths instead of find new ones. Once you've made most or all weaknesses into strengths then is the time to search for new strengths/weaknesses.

Again, that's a question of mindsets... one you suggest is the healthiest possible.

Seriously, you're only a heartbeat away from being a better pimp than me. You just have to get over this small hurdle of self loathing.

I'm going to assume that that is intended as a compliment, and assuming that, it's a compliment I'm happy to accept.

I wouldn't say kindergarten... more like high school. College is basically a four year application into adulthood. But once you get that license (diploma), it's all you. But yeah, all the things you need to learn to survive can be learned up to high school.

I don't think there's a difference in mindset. That phrase can just as easily be added upon: "what did I do to fuck up this time so I won't do it again next time."

Even if the penalty for failure is steep, continuous failure is worse. I'd rather use my failures as stepping stones towards success.

It is a compliment and that is an aspect of socializing that one must accept to nurture healthy relationships with other ppl - accepting compliments. But there's also modesty. It's a precarious balance that must be maintained lest you fall one way (self-loathing) or the other (arrogant prick).

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Suicide is the one unforgivable sin. I'd never even contemplate something like that.
No matter how dark or horrible things seem, they always tend to get better after a while.

To be in control of how and when you die is the ultimate show of power and confidence ... I can see how you'd be against it. Must be all those years of being Catholic. Luckily, I got out early. :lol:

I don't know what world you're living in, but nothing ever gets better. You just find ways to forget ... enough distrations strung together and suddenly everything's ok.

[GuilewasNK]

Whatever your troubles just remember....

"You ain't Mike Tyson."

Even if he is fortuitous (depending on who you ask) to have sex with Jenna, he'll still be an ear-biting, child-eating, woman-raping, back-tax-owing, washed up has been of a man who uses words he can't possibly understand.

[JSweeney]

To be in control of how and when you die is the ultimate show of power and confidence ...

Please. It's one of the ultimate acts of cowardice.
To die in the service of others or in the company of loved ones is the best ways in which one could ever hope to die.

I can see how you'd be against it. Must be all those years of being Catholic. Luckily, I got out early. :lol:

It's selfish and wasteful. Even those who get far to negative about thier lot in life fail to realize that more often than not their simple existance effects others.
I love my family and friends far to much to subject them to that sort of loss.

I don't know what world you're living in, but nothing ever gets better.

Things always get better. It's always darkest before the dawn.
It's sad that you actually believe that nothing ever does get better. That's actually really sad.

You just find ways to forget ... enough distrations strung together and suddenly everything's ok.

Well, didn't that string of distractions just make everything better for you, getting you past those issue you had? It does get better, even if not absolutely.
However, barely anything is ever absolutely correct, so to chase that as a standard is folly.

[GuilewasNK]

If I could pick any athlete for Jenna to do a film with, it would be Jennie Finch.

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Things always get better. It's always darkest before the dawn.
It's sad that you actually believe that nothing ever does get better. That's actually really sad.

Well, they don't get worse either. :lol:


I understand your position, I guess I just look at things differently.


On a somewhat related (but still off-topic :lol: ) note ...

I have a few (maybe 5 or 6) friends who are dedicated christians. You know, missionary trips, bible clubs, the whole 9. And, as much as I do not share their beliefs I always try to be respectful. But one thing I just cannot stand is how they constantly devalue themselves. Basically they've lived their whole lives thinking everything good == God/Jesus and everything bad == themselves. And as you can image this does great things for their self esteem. :roll:

Now I have low esteem for everyone, but to believe that you are totally incapable of anything positive is taking it a bit too far. I just wish that they would take responsibility for their actions, good and bad.