WARNING: If you want a DS or PSP, you'd best be advised to get one now.

[I D 10 T]

This revers also to any pda, mp3 player, cell phone, etc, with a lit-ion battery, as it is just released on the market.

I just figured out why my GBA SP's battery has died so quickly...

I only owned it for a year and a half, but it sat on the shelfs for half a year!

Lithium Ion batterys like to be kept fully charged. And pretty much all carriers of it have it at either no power or half power :-\.

Which means, the longer it stays on shelfs, the more it dies :-\.

So, if you want these objects, I'd suggest soon, unless your looking to buy a better battery (may not be a bad choice for the PSP).

[sblymnlcrymnl]

Your name really says it all. :roll:

[Jobbercho]

Your name really says it all. :roll:

The end.

[b0bx13]

Your name really says it all. :roll:
For the win! :applause:

[basketkase543]

Wow, that was quite a dramatic topic title. I thought that all systems were going to be systematically assassinated by some killer clowns from outer space and we only had two days left to go and get em.

[b0bx13]

I'm planning on picking up a DS today with my stockpile of FYE credit, but now I'm tempted not to, just to spite the OP.

[bradr]

I'm planning on picking up a DS today with my stockpile of FYE credit, but now I'm tempted not to, just to spite the OP.

Let us know if FYE's dropped the DS price yet. It was still $150 as of yesterday (8/24).

[Kastides]

Your name really says it all. :roll:

:rofl:

[help1]

MY god, and people say that mike tyson is dumb!

[mtxbass1]

Reason #83 why ID 10 T should be put on everyone's ignore list.

[b0bx13]

Let us know if FYE's dropped the DS price yet. It was still $150 as of yesterday (8/24).
I checked yesterday, and it was already dropped. It's probably dropped in the system, but maybe not all the stores have gotten around to retagging the boxes?

[b0bx13]

:rofl:
And when Kastides is laughing at the OP, it is time for the OP to kill him/herself. It doesn't get any lower than that. Please OP, think of us.

[bradr]

I checked yesterday, and it was already dropped. It's probably dropped in the system, but maybe not all the stores have gotten around to retagging the boxes?

Thanks for the heads up. I guess I'm going to get one. I wonder if they still have the rebate ($30 if you buy a DS and 2 games)? I'll let you know later tonight/tomorrow if you don't beat me to it.

[guyver2077]

his avatar is awesome though lol

[I D 10 T]

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-5.htm

Subject to aging, even if not in use - storing the battery in a cool place and at 40% charge reduces the aging effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery

Unlike NiCad batteries or NiMH batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a longer time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40%.

Interesting... So if you can['t charge it at 100%, charging it at 40% actually helps it keep BETTER time.

Now then, you idiots were saying? These links prove that if you don't charge, you lose charge.

[I D 10 T]

And FYI, storing it at no power, or 50% is NOT 40% power, so my point still stands.

[b0bx13]

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-5.htm

Subject to aging, even if not in use - storing the battery in a cool place and at 40% charge reduces the aging effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery

Unlike NiCad batteries or NiMH batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a longer time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40%.

Interesting... So if you can['t charge it at 100%, charging it at 40% actually helps it keep BETTER time.

Now then, you idiots were saying? These links prove that if you don't charge, you lose charge.
You're still the only idiot here. No one denied that Lion batteries age and lose capacity. Between how quickly they age, and the rate that the mentioned merchandise is moved, its a moot point. Now please kindly STFU. Thank you, and have a nice day.

bradr: Yes, I think they still have the rebate, its good til the 30th. I don't think they knew about the pricedrop when they made it up. I do think I remember seeing that you have to buy 2 games with it, but its still a decent deal (especially when you have over $200 in credit 8-) )

[mtxbass1]

Now then, you idiots were saying? These links prove that if you don't charge, you lose charge.

OP, you also assume that the DS's and PSP's sitting around on shelves are over a year old. You do know the PSP just came out in march right? Even if they did start to lose capacity after a year, it is extremely unlikely that a ver 1.5 PSP is still going to be sitting on the shelf in march. The same holds true of a DS. Stores get constant shipments and products like these don't just sit on shelves for years at a time.

[I D 10 T]

Oh I see.

Losing 20% charge in one year is nothing.

From NORMAL use?

Imagine if it was just sitting on a counter at 0% charge?

Apparantly someone doesn't like being proven wrong very much :-(

[Quackzilla]

Are you really this stupid or are you acting?

[I D 10 T]

That's the thing. You probably will get a new game system, but the reality is, you may get one that has been sitting for a good while.

And if you do, your battery will die in 1 year like mine has.

This topic could've been civil...

[b0bx13]

Oh I see.

Losing 20% charge in one year is nothing.

From NORMAL use?

Imagine if it was just sitting on a counter at 0% charge?

Apparantly someone doesn't like being proven wrong very much :-(
Actually, if you read the article, there's a great loss when its stored at 100% charge for long periods of time. There's much less of an effect when its stored at a low charge (as you were bitching about earlier).

[b0bx13]

That's the thing. You probably will get a new game system, but the reality is, you may get one that has been sitting for a good while.

And if you do, your battery will die in 1 year like mine has.

This topic could've been civil...
Christ almighty, did you even ATTEMPT to read the "irrefutable proof" you posted? It talks down all of your pointless arguments. Usually I would have left by now, but I'm bored out of my skull, so I guess I have to at least tahnk you for the entertainment.

[mtxbass1]

That's the thing. You probably will get a new game system, but the reality is, you may get one that has been sitting for a good while.


Even if you get an original launch PSP. It's been out since March. It is August now. The battery has not "lost" any capacity.

[Gothic Walrus]

This is pathetic.

People buy handhelds. New ones are manufactured with new batteries. The end.

[b0bx13]

This is pathetic.

People buy handhelds. New ones are manufactured with new batteries. The end.
Psh, of course not silly. Thing is, the PSP and DS were around during the NES days. See, the technology was created at Area 51. One day the government thought it would be fun to fuck around with the common folk. So they made a huge amount of PSPs and DSs approximately 15 years ago, and they've been keeping them stored, when finally, earlier this year, they unleashed the horrible beasts upon our innocent souls. And now everyone's stuck with a worthless PSP or DS because the batteries are dead :cry:

[I D 10 T]

Christ almighty, did you even ATTEMPT to read the "irrefutable proof" you posted? It talks down all of your pointless arguments. Usually I would have left by now, but I'm bored out of my skull, so I guess I have to at least tahnk you for the entertainment.

Perhaps you should read the very article and not skim thru it, um k?

At a typical 100% charge level (notebook battery, full most of the time) at 25 degrees Celsius, Li-ion batteries irreversibly lose approximately 20% capacity per year from the time they are manufactured, even when unused. (6% at 0 °C, 20% at 25 °C, 35% at 40 °C. When stored at 40% charge level, these figures are reduced to 2%, 4%, 15% at 0, 25 and 40 degrees Celsius respectively.)

Unlike NiCad batteries or NiMH batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a longer time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40%.

Kind of obvious that they are saying that you should keep it at 100%, but 40% is the optimal placement.

But I guess that is hard for idiots to understand... I see.

[b0bx13]

Perhaps you should read the very article and not skim thru it, um k?

At a typical 100% charge level (notebook battery, full most of the time) at 25 degrees Celsius, Li-ion batteries irreversibly lose approximately 20% capacity per year from the time they are manufactured, even when unused. (6% at 0 °C, 20% at 25 °C, 35% at 40 °C. When stored at 40% charge level, these figures are reduced to 2%, 4%, 15% at 0, 25 and 40 degrees Celsius respectively.)

Unlike NiCad batteries or NiMH batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a longer time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40%.

Kind of obvious that they are saying that you should keep it at 100%, but 40% is the optimal placement.

But I guess that is hard for idiots to understand... I see.

...
You do know that when a loss is reduced, that's a good thing, right?

[crickett003]

Are you really this stupid or are you acting?

Quack, I'm afraid it's the real deal.

[I D 10 T]

Did you take the short bus to school?

Show me where the FUCKING HELL they specifically power the batteries at 40% when they box the systems, because that is exactly my point. (It's always half or none, btw)

If they doint have them at 40%, or 100%, they are losing charge. If it's at 0%, it's dying.

[Strell]

SOMETIMES I DIP VARIOUS BODY PARTS IN OIL. (and he used to rub them all over my body....)

Yesh.

[b0bx13]

You realize that losing charge and dying is the same thing, right? I'm not saying that a zero charge is the best, but:

A) It's better than a full charge
B) I have to say that just about anything I've bought in recent memory with a Lithium Ion battery has had well above a zero charge, but closer to half (whadayaknow, 40% is almost half!)

And still, the original fact remains the same: with how quickly these items are sold, they could give them a full capacity charge and no harm would be noticible.

[Quackzilla]

Did you take the short bus to school?

Show me where the FUCKING HELL they specifically power the batteries at 40% when they box the systems, because that is exactly my point. (It's always half or none, btw)

If they doint have them at 40%, or 100%, they are losing charge. If it's at 0%, it's dying.
http://newgrounds.com/bbs/user_images/pics/1/4809000/ngbbs4250630d86f25.gif

[stag8603]

http://newgrounds.com/bbs/user_images/pics/1/4809000/ngbbs4250630d86f25.gif


:rofl:

[I D 10 T]

I continue to look, because people continue to be idiots, but all I find is this:

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/images/parttwo-34.gif

At normal temps, 60c (In some areas), on 100% charge it can go down to as much as 65% charge IN ONE YEAR.

I'm sure that the loss for 0% charge is at less double that, or maybe triple.

Continue to call me an idiot, yes...... But how exactly is kiling your battery in one year good? This probably wouldn't happen, but...

And BTW, the battery is already in your system, and it starts losing power the moment it is off the plant. You don't 'get a new one'. And you people call ME the idiot...

[Brodiemegacorp]

LOL!! ^_^ Very awesome. :applause:

http://newgrounds.com/bbs/user_images/pics/1/4809000/ngbbs4250630d86f25.gif

[DuelLadyS]

Wow, that was quite a dramatic topic title. I thought that all systems were going to be systematically assassinated by some killer clowns from outer space and we only had two days left to go and get em.

I was expecting a government task force destroying that hated scum of videogames, exposing our children to horrid violence... *'eave the porn-filled computer, get the PSP!!! *blamblamblam*'

(And I find myself reading the stupidity of the OP in replies, becuase I can't stand to look at that disgusting picture of Jim Carrey. That is the most irriating facial expression in existence.)

Now, out of curiosity anyone know the kind of battery used by the MadCatz GBA charger? I bought one of those on clearance not quite a year ago, and it works damn fine after sitting on the shelf....

[the3rdkey]

This is even stupider then most of my posts.

[Thaaron]

I continue to look, because people continue to be idiots, but all I find is this:

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/images/parttwo-34.gif

At normal temps, 60c (In some areas), on 100% charge it can go down to as much as 65% charge IN ONE YEAR.

I'm sure that the loss for 0% charge is at less double that, or maybe triple.

Continue to call me an idiot, yes...... But how exactly is kiling your battery in one year good? This probably wouldn't happen, but...

And BTW, the battery is already in your system, and it starts losing power the moment it is off the plant. You don't 'get a new one'. And you people call ME the idiot...

You do realize that 60c = 140 Farenheit right? I would hope they aren't storing PSP's in Death Valley.

Just out of curiosity are you saying that there is a significant difference between storing the batteries at a 50% charge vs. the ideal 40% charge?

[Doylerulez]

At the very least, you should change to thread title if all you're going to talk about is battery life.

[I D 10 T]

Considering that new batteries now cost about as much as a DS (And please, no insults you fucking morons), I'd say that battery life is of importance.

[Backlash]

And when Kastides is laughing at the OP, it is time for the OP to kill him/herself. It doesn't get any lower than that. Please OP, think of us.

:lol:

[Astinus Majere]

Considering that new batteries now cost about as much as a DS (And please, no insults you fucking morons), I'd say that battery life is of importance.

http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PRODUCT&PROD_ID=1144325&cid=25608&fp=F

NDS - Replacement Battery - Our Price:$14.99

[I D 10 T]

LMAO! Do you idiots even know what you're talking about?!

That is 850 mah!

Even pdas normally have a battery that is at least 1100 mah, and they only last 5 hours! You'd be ;ucky to get 5 hours on that thing!

For a bunch of idiots who think you know what you're talking about, you're a bunch of braindead simps.

[snotnose_colossal]

There has to be at least one totally retarded thread on here everyday. No one cares that you just found out how batteries work now. Seriously change the title, cause if I buy a psp in two years it will not have a two year old battery. A replacement battery costs nowhere as much as a DS either.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?CategoryID=pcmcat45400050010&id=1117177721718&skuId=7267575&type=product&ref=06&loc=01

http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?products_id=6033&likref=froogle2

And dont call people fucking morons and ask not to be insulted you fucking idiot

[rabidmonkeys]

So how do you expect to remedy the situation, Captain Obvious? (there is no situation) Stand there on thursdays when the shipments come in and get them fresh from the box? What if they were just transfered? I know, maybe they need "born-on-dates" like beer.

If you had either a PSP, a DS, or a brain you would know that they do not come fully charged. In fact, if you hadn't struck out on all three counts you would know that the manual actually says to charge the DS or PSP before using it.

*Edit
And if you do have any of those systems, then you're an even bigger idiot for not realizing from day 1 that the battery wasn't charged to 100%.

I vote this to be closed and deleted forever.

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[I D 10 T]

You kids are a laugh riot.

You and your 850 mah.

You spend the whole topic bashing me, telling me I don't know know anything, and in the past 15 minutes, you've proven you don't know jack shit.

If you ever want your system to last longer than 5 hours though, you'd need one of these:

http://www1.shopping.com/xPC-2200_mAh_Extended_Battery_for_Dell_Axim_X50_X50v_H andhelds

It difers in price, but usually, a 2200 mah lithium-ion battery will run you around $99-$130.

[snotnose_colossal]

$12

http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=277&products_id=4716&

[rabidmonkeys]

^^ The bitch-slap heard round the world.

[I D 10 T]

Internal 1150 mAh
Optional 850 mAh (uses your original Nintendo DS Battery)

O_O

False advertising imo. Their are no 2000 mah batteries.

[rabidmonkeys]

Internal 1150 mAh
Optional 850 mAh (uses your original Nintendo DS Battery)

O_O

False advertising imo. Their are no 2000 mah batteries.

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=2000%20Mah&hl=en&hs=Dme&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&tab=wf

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,420 for 2000 Mah. (0.14 seconds)

I know it was hard to type that into to google, so I did it for you. Here's a link to a lawyer, you might want to start a class action lawsuit for all those false advertisers.

www.stopkill.com

[I D 10 T]

EDIT: bah, their are 2000 liton batteries.

[rabidmonkeys]

I can't believe you really are this stupid.

*Edit:
BTW: editing your asinine comments out doesn't mean you're any less of an ass.

[Quackzilla]

EDIT: bah, their are 2000 liton batteries.
http://newgrounds.com/bbs/user_images/pics/1/4809000/ngbbs4250630d86f25.gif

[punqsux]

holy crap, im locking this.