Sometime Soon - Possible to downgrade from 2.0/1.52/1.51 to 1.5

[GizmoGC]

"Yoshiro from Team Wab just revealed that he managed to downgrade 1.5x PSPs back to 1.50. He will release the method on September, 1st. w00t! For those of you who have upgraded to 1.51 or 1.52, or never had the chance to play homebrew before, stay tuned!"

http://pspupdates.com/

[GizmoGC]

Hopefully this is true as it is posted at http://pspupdates.com/ and they are not known to post the BS (Like the so-called numerous downgrades in the past).

I beleive September 1st is also the relase date for the European launch IIRC

[BREVITY]

Like every forum/site I go there are people that are talking about this. People are really hoping this is the panacea for all their PSP troubles. I wonder why the dude is holding off till Thu?

[Mr. Anderson]

Like every forum/site I go there are people that are talking about this. People are really hoping this is the panacea for all their PSP troubles. I wonder why the dude is holding off till Thu?

To build hype.

[GizmoGC]

European Release date. All EU PSP's will be shipped with 1.52 firmware...but there may be bugs as well.

[D. Monic]

European Release date. All EU PSP's will be shipped with 1.52 firmware...but there may be bugs as well.
I think it's mostly the bugs that caused the delay. Firmware updates for any device have the possiblity to "brick it" if something goes wrong. Better safe than sorry.

I feel bad for the people with 1.51 or 1.52 who decided they might as well upgrade to 2.0 though. Up until this announcement, upgrading to 2.0 was the logical move. If you were stuck with non-hacked firmware, you might as well get the features.

Hopefully it won't be long until either 2.0 is hacked or you can downgrade from 2.0 to 1.5 as well. Until then, I'm holding onto my 1.5s as if they're worth the PSP's own weight in gold boullion.

Edit: I think the reason for the early announcement was to make sure the Europeans knew not to upgrade to 2.0 once they get the system. I didn't really mention that in my first version of this post, but it's an important point.

[Quackzilla]

Why are people so nostalgic that they will pay $250 for a game system and only play 20 year old ROMs on it? Why would people rather play a shitty old game from the 1980s than a new fun game released last month (with a firmware upgrade).

Of course, you know the majority of people will get this hack for the ISO loader so they can steal games.

[GizmoGC]

Why are people so nostalgic that they will pay $250 for a game system and only play 20 year old ROMs on it? Why would people rather play a shitty old game from the 1980s than a new fun game released last month (with a firmware upgrade).

Of course, you know the majority of people will get this hack for the ISO loader so they can steal games.

Again, There are VERY few PSP games even worth owning, while there our hundreds/thousands of games available for FREE online. And shitty old games? The bottom 30% of NES games are way better then the top 50% of PSP games.

Maybe you ahould take off your 'I Love Sony' T-Shirt and you're tinfoil hat.

[Quackzilla]

Again, There are VERY few PSP games even worth owning, while there our hundreds/thousands of games available for FREE online. And shitty old games? The bottom 30% of NES games are way better then the top 50% of PSP games.

Maybe you ahould take off your 'I Love Sony' T-Shirt and you're tinfoil hat.
Wow, calm down buddy!

Saying "Sony doesn't suck" is not an attack on your precious ngage! :lol:

[The VGM]

Quack, I don't think you realize the fact that people want more then a $250 movie player.

[Quackzilla]

Quack, I don't think you realize the fact that people want more then a $250 movie player.
By that logic, a computer is a $1000 CD player and an Ipod is a $300 external HDD.

See, I can play that game too. All you have to do is pick a secondary or peripheral feature and imply that it is the ONLY feature.

Although, it's kind of stupid if I do say so myself, but if it makes you feel better about your DS and ngage then go wild.

[D. Monic]

By that logic, a computer is a $1000 CD player and an Ipod is a $300 external HDD.

See, I can play that game too. All you have to do is pick a secondary or peripheral feature and imply that it is the ONLY feature.

Although, it's kind of stupid if I do say so myself, but if it makes you feel better about your DS and ngage then go wild.
Too funny. Please tell me this is sarcasm.

Please don't tell me you haven't noticed that for every game that comes out, about a dozen useless UMD movies get released. Which begs the question, "Is the PSP a game system or a movie player?"

Right now, it seems like Sony thinks it's primarily a movie player and secondarily a game system. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM!

I thought it was hilarious when Sony dubbed the DS "irrelevant" last week. Well, I guess you have to come up with something when you're getting your nuts stomped by the "irrelevant" system in Japan, you're releasing games at a blistering 1-per-month pace in North America (it's 0-per-month if you narrow it down to "good" games), and you're just now getting around to launching in Europe, which in and of itself reveals how inept you are.

I mean, when you're smaller opponent is beating your big fat ass around the ring, the least you can do is raise your woozy head off the canvas, spit out your mouthpiece, and call him a smelly doo-doo head. Sometimes, it's all you can do.

I hear that after they dubbed the DS "irrelevant," they backed it up by saying, "Can you watch Daddy Daycare on your DS? I didn't think so."

[Ultimate Matt X]

"Please don't tell me you haven't noticed that for every game that comes out, about a dozen useless UMD movies get released. Which begs the question, "Is the PSP a game system or a movie player?"

Right now, it seems like Sony thinks it's primarily a movie player and secondarily a game system. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM!"

I agree about the lack of quality games, but I don't think the PSP can be passed off as a movie player over a game system because of it quite yet. The truth is studios can crap out a UMD movie a lot quicker than developers can make games. If they tried to rush out more ports of older games on PSP people would complain even more. So I think Sony sees the PSP as a game machine as much or more than a movie player, but that isn't going to stop the movie makers from trying to make a quick buck.

Seperate from this, I don't get what is so appealing about the DS lineup over the PSP right now either. I have both and think they're both riddled with crap except a few exceptions. PSP has stuff like Hot Shots, Wipeout, and such; and DS has things like Mario, Nintendogs. Both have some good puzzle games.

I don't think emulation should be the selling point of the system, but I think it adds a lot to the PSP. Not necessarily cause the games are better than the PSP games, though many are, but because it expands the library and helps diversify the experience.

[Inferno-X]

Oh no, not again.

Don't feed the Quackzilla.

I read a similar thread a few weeks ago and this is shaping up the same way. He has a very strong opinion about this subject and it's pointless to even try to discuss the other half of the arguement with him.

This isn't an attack in anyway, just saying. You'll get nowhere.

[Epic Wolf]

Great Now I really feel like an ass for giving up and upgrading to 2.0 :cry:

[CocheseUGA]

"Please don't tell me you haven't noticed that for every game that comes out, about a dozen useless UMD movies get released. Which begs the question, "Is the PSP a game system or a movie player?"

Right now, it seems like Sony thinks it's primarily a movie player and secondarily a game system. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM!"

I agree about the lack of quality games, but I don't think the PSP can be passed off as a movie player over a game system because of it quite yet. The truth is studios can crap out a UMD movie a lot quicker than developers can make games. If they tried to rush out more ports of older games on PSP people would complain even more. So I think Sony sees the PSP as a game machine as much or more than a movie player, but that isn't going to stop the movie makers from trying to make a quick buck.

Seperate from this, I don't get what is so appealing about the DS lineup over the PSP right now either. I have both and think they're both riddled with crap except a few exceptions. PSP has stuff like Hot Shots, Wipeout, and such; and DS has things like Mario, Nintendogs. Both have some good puzzle games.

I don't think emulation should be the selling point of the system, but I think it adds a lot to the PSP. Not necessarily cause the games are better than the PSP games, though many are, but because it expands the library and helps diversify the experience.

I dub thee, intelligent. Well said.

[Milkyman]

I don't think emulation should be the selling point of the system, but I think it adds a lot to the PSP. Not necessarily cause the games are better than the PSP games, though many are, but because it expands the library and helps diversify the experience.


I have both a psp and a ds and the thing i like about being able to play homebrew on the psp is that it lets me carry more games. I bought lumines wipeout pure and metal gear acid, but aside from lumines i'm kind of meh about everythign else. I've played hotshots golf which i really like though. And a benefit of homebrew/hacks/cracks is that I can have the best game availalbe for psp with me all the time, (lumines, which i do own a copy of) and run it off my memory stick, allowing me to carry a different game or hell even a movie in the umd slot for more variety. and when I just have a couple of minutes to play games I fire up the Turbographx16 emulator and play some devil's crash pinball (i own the system and that game too, they're in my basement). For me, it adds a lot of value. And playing games off of your memory stick presumably sucks less juice too.

[daphatty]

I call bullshit on this. The last time he did this was with the WAB loader that supposedly would run all hacked games. If you were paying attention, like I was, then you know how that ended up... :roll:

[-Never4ever-]

Again, There are VERY few PSP games even worth owning, while there our hundreds/thousands of games available for FREE online. And shitty old games? The bottom 30% of NES games are way better then the top 50% of PSP games.

Maybe you ahould take off your 'I Love Sony' T-Shirt and you're tinfoil hat.

FALSE

Both Street titles
Metal Gear Ac!d
Ridge Racers
Twisted Metal: H-O
Wipeout Pure
Lumines
Darkstalkers
Hot shots golf
THUG 2 Remix
Midnight club 3 DUB edition
Death Jr

Any one of the above trounces the combined NES library. Nostagia is a cold hearted bitch - most of the NES games we know and love were only good for their time, but are now horribly obsolete. Only a handful of games are any good, and all of them have no replay value. SNES, however, is a whole other story.

Take off your "LOOK AT MY IMMA HARKORE GAMING PERSON CAUSE I PLAY TEH OLD GAMES AND WORK FOR A VG STORE WERE STUPID CUSTOMERS TRY AND GET OVER ME BUT I DON"T L:ET THEM CAUSE IMMA BADASS BUT ONLY IN THE STORE ON THE WEB" shirt and stoop trying to asert someone else opinion that you took as your own on other people. You think there's nothing to play on psp besides crusty old NES games? Then you dobn't really play video games, sell your shit and get a new hobby, because gaming isn't working out for you.

[doodle777_98]

Wrong and Wrong. You should nt be bitching about how people love nes games. I play my nes, sega, snes, saturn, dreamcast, ps2, gamecube, and psp all the time. I happen to like games in general. Quakzilla is a little cry baby with the 2.0 upgrade and only plays new psp games. I play nes and snes games on my psp and i only own 2 psp games which i beat already. By the way nes and snes games are basically FREE. So while i'm waiting for price drops or used games to surface i have other games to keep my occupied.

It's an opinion. Those who trounce the old school gamers don't understand the old school gamer. It's like the kid who eats pinapple on his pizza. Everyone thinks it gross. Of course not very many have even tried it.

Fuck you quakzilla. While you are sitting there with your PSP and games. I'm sitting here playing my NES and games. You know what i bet we are having about the same amount of fun.

Calling a computer a 1000 dollar cd player and an ipod a 300 dollar HD is stupid. I don't know about you but i try to get as much use out of all my money that i can. While you are sitting there putting limits on your psp, you can only enjoy up to that limit. Shit buying a cpu and not using the cd player is stupid, buying an ipod and not using it to store files is stupid. Having a psp and not using it to its max, incredibly stupid.

So to recap on what i just said, Fuck you Quakzilla.

[opportunity777]

Brook Burke is hot. By the way PSP games are kind of lame, which is why I haven't bought one yet :-P

[Javery]

I wish there was a way to have 2.0 and all the homebrew stuff... I know it's only a matter of time but still... I like having the NES games on there so there is more to play. I get sucked into Baseball Stars or Tecmo Bowl all the time...

[doodle777_98]

yeah, now its easier to play the tecmo bowl season. It takes forever on the nes and there was no save function for it. I still think tecmo bowl is the best football game ever.

[Kirin Lemon]

FALSE

Both Street titles
Metal Gear Ac!d
Ridge Racers
Twisted Metal: H-O
Wipeout Pure
Lumines
Darkstalkers
Hot shots golf
THUG 2 Remix
Midnight club 3 DUB edition
Death Jr

Any one of the above trounces the combined NES library. Nostagia is a cold hearted bitch - most of the NES games we know and love were only good for their time, but are now horribly obsolete. Only a handful of games are any good, and all of them have no replay value. SNES, however, is a whole other story.

Take off your "LOOK AT MY IMMA HARKORE GAMING PERSON CAUSE I PLAY TEH OLD GAMES AND WORK FOR A VG STORE WERE STUPID CUSTOMERS TRY AND GET OVER ME BUT I DON"T L:ET THEM CAUSE IMMA BADASS BUT ONLY IN THE STORE ON THE WEB" shirt and stoop trying to asert someone else opinion that you took as your own on other people. You think there's nothing to play on psp besides crusty old NES games? Then you dobn't really play video games, sell your shit and get a new hobby, because gaming isn't working out for you.
I look at this list and my brain automatically filters out everything but Lumines and Hot Shots Golf. Me likey emulation.

[punqsux]

Why are people so nostalgic that they will pay $250 for a game system and only play 20 year old ROMs on it? Why would people rather play a shitty old game from the 1980s than a new fun game released last month (with a firmware upgrade).

Of course, you know the majority of people will get this hack for the ISO loader so they can steal games.
[response to quack trolling psp threads #425]
you get all caught up on features, and im sure youll agree, the main feature of the psp play games (secondary: movies, music, photos, browse the web)

these people are simply cutting out one of those secondary features to have a (much) greater library of media for the primary feature.

you post as if by puting emulators on your psp, the psp is therefore useless for anything else...

get some new material.

[rabidmonkeys]

FALSE

Both Street titles
Metal Gear Ac!d
Ridge Racers
Twisted Metal: H-O
Wipeout Pure
Lumines
Darkstalkers
Hot shots golf
THUG 2 Remix
Midnight club 3 DUB edition
Death Jr

Any one of the above trounces the combined NES library. Nostagia is a cold hearted bitch - most of the NES games we know and love were only good for their time, but are now horribly obsolete. Only a handful of games are any good, and all of them have no replay value. SNES, however, is a whole other story.

Take off your "LOOK AT MY IMMA HARKORE GAMING PERSON CAUSE I PLAY TEH OLD GAMES AND WORK FOR A VG STORE WERE STUPID CUSTOMERS TRY AND GET OVER ME BUT I DON"T L:ET THEM CAUSE IMMA BADASS BUT ONLY IN THE STORE ON THE WEB" shirt and stoop trying to asert someone else opinion that you took as your own on other people. You think there's nothing to play on psp besides crusty old NES games? Then you dobn't really play video games, sell your shit and get a new hobby, because gaming isn't working out for you.


Super Mario 3
Nuff said...

[Quackzilla]

Super Mario 3
Nuff said...
Dude, of all the Mario games SMB3 is the worst! It's even worse than the one with vegetables.

[doodle777_98]

From all the CAGer's Quakzilla is the worst.

SMB3 rocks. Oh, and so does SMB2.

[Quackzilla]

Smw>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Smb

[Javery]

I look at this list and my brain automatically filters out everything but Lumines and Hot Shots Golf. Me likey emulation.

heh, me too... they are the only two games I own but I LOVE them - worth the price of the PSP alone, IMO.

[doodle777_98]

I only have Twisted metal head on and death jr and i beat them both. I liked both of them alot but they need to be longer. especially death jr.

[doodle777_98]

right now, im playing lufia:fortress of doom, startropics, and castlevania on my psp emulators.

[punqsux]

FALSE

Both Street titles
Metal Gear Ac!d
Ridge Racers
Twisted Metal: H-O
Wipeout Pure
Lumines
Darkstalkers
Hot shots golf
THUG 2 Remix
Midnight club 3 DUB edition
Death Jr

Any one of the above trounces the combined NES library. Nostagia is a cold hearted bitch - most of the NES games we know and love were only good for their time, but are now horribly obsolete. Only a handful of games are any good, and all of them have no replay value. SNES, however, is a whole other story.

Take off your "LOOK AT MY IMMA HARKORE GAMING PERSON CAUSE I PLAY TEH OLD GAMES AND WORK FOR A VG STORE WERE STUPID CUSTOMERS TRY AND GET OVER ME BUT I DON"T L:ET THEM CAUSE IMMA BADASS BUT ONLY IN THE STORE ON THE WEB" shirt and stoop trying to asert someone else opinion that you took as your own on other people. You think there's nothing to play on psp besides crusty old NES games? Then you dobn't really play video games, sell your shit and get a new hobby, because gaming isn't working out for you.


dear Never4Ever,

while i dont question any of the games you listed, i direct you to the following games for the NES, you may want to check them out because (believe it or not) games can remain fun as time goes on ^^

1942
1943
dino riki
adventure island series (3 being the best, imo)
baloon fight
bards tale
baseball stars 2
batman (holy hell, this game rocks your face)
battleship
battletoads/double dragon
bee 52
bionic commando
blades of steel
bomberman 2
a boy and his blob
bubble bobble 1+2
bugs bunnys crazy castle
burger time
bump n jump
casino kid
castlevania 1-3
chip and dale 1+2
clash at demonhead
contra (force and super)
crystalis
deja vu
dig dug 1+2
donkey kong classics
double dragon 1-3
dr mario
dragon warrior 1-4
ducktales 1+2
elevator action
excitebike
final fantasy
flintstones 1+2
g.i. joe 1+2
galaga
gauntlet
ghosts n goblins
gradius 1+2
gunnac
gunsmoke
ice climber
ice hockey
ikari warriors 1-3
john elways quarterback
kid icarus
kung fu
the legend of zelda
legendary wings
lemmings
magic darts
maniac mansion
marble madness
mario bros
megaman 1-6 (mostly 1+2)
metroid
micro machines
punch out
millapede
monster in my pocket
ms pac man
ninja gaiden 1-3
paper boy
pinball
pirates
popeye
prince of persia
q-bert
qix
rc pro-am 1+2
rainbow islands
rampage
rescue embasy mission
river city ransom
rolling thunder
rush'n attack
shadowgate
shinobi
skate or die
startropics 1+2
strider
super dodgeball
super mario bros 1-3
super sprint
tmnt 2, fighters
tetris 1, 2, tengen
track and feild 2
uncharted waters
urban champion
volleyball
xevious
yoshi
zelda 2

you know? its a start ^^

[Quackzilla]

99% of those games suck ass, punqsux.

[punqsux]

99% of those games suck ass, punqsux.
yet another reason im glad im not you =o)

a nice sounding made up statistic, 99%

out of ~125 games i listed, that would mean one of them dosent "suck ass" not be a good game mind you, but just not "sucking ass"

im curious, since im sure you would put thought into such a prolific post, which is the game from the list that dosent "suck ass"

[Quackzilla]

The Legend of Zelda

The rest bore me out of my mind.

[doodle777_98]

Well quakzilla sucks about 100 percent ass. 100 percent which means including the hole. Great list punqsux. I got a good chuck of those games and still play them. Especially since i got a hold of a power pad. Oh my god its fucking hilarious. Especially when my brother wants to challenge me to some hurdles.

[rabidmonkeys]

I love having him blocked. I get to scroll down and watch everyone else bitch about how stupid he is. The ignore list is like an aquarium, very calming.

[CocheseUGA]

Put me in the minority perhaps, but I don't care about emo either. If I want to play the old games...I play the old games. Original console and all. If I want to play the emo games with save ability, I break out my Nester CD. Not really a big deal for me, and it wears thin pretty quick.

That said, props to you that love to do that sort of thing. Just don't think the rest of us are stupid for playing the games and movies designed for the system.

[Weedy649]

WOW this is great news...i was just going to upgrade my 1.51 PSP to 2.0 tomorrow! As for the whole emulator issue, yes its a great deal that you can play them on your $250 purchase.

My number one reason is this.....PSP is a portable system.
When im playing a portable system, my suspected ADD rises by 50%. How many good games for PSP can i pop in and just play for a few minutes while i wait for my gf in the car or to be called in at a doctors office? How far can i get in a psp game when i make it to class 10 minutes early and want to kill some time? Not much.

Nes, Snes games are much more suitable for portable play, just look at the many games ported to GBA which work perfect for on the go. Not only this but i have a huge library of titles to play without the added bulk so that ill never get bored of playing 1 or 2 games every single day.

The game lineup is horrid compared to the DS IMHO. On the DS i can play gba games and theres a good amount of games out there which are original and fun. I dont mind spending like $30 on pac-pix, in which i draw pac man and guide him to the ghost. I do mind paying $40 for namco collection on psp to play $1 nintendo games i own.

[stocker08]

Why are people so nostalgic that they will pay $250 for a game system and only play 20 year old ROMs on it? Why would people rather play a shitty old game from the 1980s than a new fun game released last month (with a firmware upgrade).

Of course, you know the majority of people will get this hack for the ISO loader so they can steal games.

Personally, i wouldnt pay $250 to just play roms, but the idea of a Portable system being able to play lots of older console games along with newer more advacned games is cool!

[doodle777_98]

See i'm pretty sure no one has just bought so they can play old games even if they did, its no big deal. how else can you hook up your nes in a car without fucking up the game play.

[GizmoGC]

See i'm pretty sure no one has just bought so they can play old games even if they did, its no big deal. how else can you hook up your nes in a car without fucking up the game play.

Incorrect. I know of a few people that bought a PSP soley for the reason of playing emulators. Hell, they couldn't careless whats coming out on PSP as long as they have a 1.5 version.

[doodle777_98]

like i said
"its no big deal. how else can you hook up your nes in a car without fucking up the game play."

[CocheseUGA]

Incorrect. I know of a few people that bought a PSP soley for the reason of playing emulators. Hell, they couldn't careless whats coming out on PSP as long as they have a 1.5 version.

If people don't buy games, there won't be any good ones. C-22.

[Weedy649]

If people don't buy games, there won't be any good ones. C-22.

Not really, if people buy bad games, there wont be any good ones.

[GizmoGC]

If people don't buy games, there won't be any good ones. C-22.

And thats our fault? Maybe if there were more then 3-4 'must own games' this wouldn't be a problem, and people would consider upgrading their firmware to play them. Medevil is the only game this year I have somewhat interested in.

[CocheseUGA]

And thats our fault? Maybe if there were more then 3-4 'must own games' this wouldn't be a problem, and people would consider upgrading their firmware to play them. Medevil is the only game this year I have somewhat interested in.

If people didn't have to upgrade to buy games, more would sell. However, if people didn't play homebrew, they wouldn't have to upgrade.

The platform has only been out for so many months. When has Sony had a strong launch lineup? I still think it's stupid to pay that much money to have a portable NES. When a portable NES has already been done, and cheaper.

[punqsux]

im just waiting for psp games to hit $5-10 like i do with every system :lol:

[Bivensra]

I wish there was a way to have 2.0 and all the homebrew stuff... I know it's only a matter of time but still... I like having the NES games on there so there is more to play. I get sucked into Baseball Stars or Tecmo Bowl all the time...

Never open up a game for the 1st time @ 1:30 am when you are already sleepy. Feeling nostalgia, i bought Namco Collection which requires the 1.52 upgrade (it's on the damn UMD). Now I cannot use my 1 gig!!!! Is there anything I can do? I have the 2 year warranty and can get another PSP b/ don't all of them have the update by now? I cannot believe I hit that f'in button.

[Bivensra]

WOW this is great news...i was just going to upgrade my 1.51 PSP to 2.0 tomorrow! As for the whole emulator issue, yes its a great deal that you can play them on your $250 purchase.

My number one reason is this.....PSP is a portable system.
When im playing a portable system, my suspected ADD rises by 50%. How many good games for PSP can i pop in and just play for a few minutes while i wait for my gf in the car or to be called in at a doctors office? How far can i get in a psp game when i make it to class 10 minutes early and want to kill some time? Not much.

Nes, Snes games are much more suitable for portable play, just look at the many games ported to GBA which work perfect for on the go. Not only this but i have a huge library of titles to play without the added bulk so that ill never get bored of playing 1 or 2 games every single day.

The game lineup is horrid compared to the DS IMHO. On the DS i can play gba games and theres a good amount of games out there which are original and fun. I dont mind spending like $30 on pac-pix, in which i draw pac man and guide him to the ghost. I do mind paying $40 for namco collection on psp to play $1 nintendo games i own.

Sorry for asking this question for the 3rd time but I now see that someone else on this thread bought the namco collection. How are you able to still use the emulator now that you have the 1.52 provided on the UMD? I'm freaking out b/c I had so many games and I cannot play them.

[Bivensra]

WOW this is great news...i was just going to upgrade my 1.51 PSP to 2.0 tomorrow! As for the whole emulator issue, yes its a great deal that you can play them on your $250 purchase.

My number one reason is this.....PSP is a portable system.
When im playing a portable system, my suspected ADD rises by 50%. How many good games for PSP can i pop in and just play for a few minutes while i wait for my gf in the car or to be called in at a doctors office? How far can i get in a psp game when i make it to class 10 minutes early and want to kill some time? Not much.

Nes, Snes games are much more suitable for portable play, just look at the many games ported to GBA which work perfect for on the go. Not only this but i have a huge library of titles to play without the added bulk so that ill never get bored of playing 1 or 2 games every single day.

The game lineup is horrid compared to the DS IMHO. On the DS i can play gba games and theres a good amount of games out there which are original and fun. I dont mind spending like $30 on pac-pix, in which i draw pac man and guide him to the ghost. I do mind paying $40 for namco collection on psp to play $1 nintendo games i own.


SHIt u did not buy namco collection. I'm screwed!!!

[doodle777_98]

ha, yeah the new program which sopposinly can "downgrade" also only works for 1.52 so don't upgrade to 2.0. But of course you could "brick" your psp. Is it worth it?

Thank god Death Jr. requires 1.5. w007

[Bivensra]

ha, yeah the new program which sopposinly can "downgrade" also only works for 1.52 so don't upgrade to 2.0. But of course you could "brick" your psp. Is it worth it?

Thank god Death Jr. requires 1.5. w007

Thanks for the response. What does "brick the psp" mean? I only played the new Galaga b/ the graphics look nice and the fact that when you play against someone else in Pac Man you can become a ghost is cool. DAMN upgrade!!!

[doodle777_98]

brick means broke.

ha, understand?

[Weedy649]

If people didn't have to upgrade to buy games, more would sell. However, if people didn't play homebrew, they wouldn't have to upgrade.

The platform has only been out for so many months. When has Sony had a strong launch lineup? I still think it's stupid to pay that much money to have a portable NES. When a portable NES has already been done, and cheaper.


Correction again, not just a portable NES, but a portable NES, SNES and GEN in one. Also, you paid as much as all of us for a System with a weak launch(that you admit yourself) and yet you think its stupid that people want to play classic games until must have games come out that force you to upgrade?

[CocheseUGA]

Correction again, not just a portable NES, but a portable NES, SNES and GEN in one. Also, you paid as much as all of us for a System with a weak launch(that you admit yourself) and yet you think its stupid that people want to play classic games until must have games come out that force you to upgrade?

I must have missed where I bought a PSP. I know my bank account took a little hit over the weekend, but I think I would have remembered it.

[Pookymeister]

i just got a PSP from freepsps.com.

So if i go into System Settings, then System Info and it says
System Software : Version 1.50
i'm a lucky guy? =]

[Kain Vincent]

i just got a PSP from freepsps.com.

So if i go into System Settings, then System Info and it says
System Software : Version 1.50
i'm a lucky guy? =]

Yes, I believe you would be.

[help1]

im just waiting for psp games to hit $5-10 like i do with every system :lol:

Im waiting for the PSP itself to be 5-10 dollars...

[Pookymeister]

my psp was about $30 .......bribes for people to sign up as referrals

[Pookymeister]

quick question - anyone have a link to get Homebrew, help out a psp n00b. PM me if you dont want to post it

[GizmoGC]

www.pspupdates.com

[Pookymeister]

w00t, R-type sega master system goodness

[-Never4ever-]

And thats our fault? Maybe if there were more then 3-4 'must own games' this wouldn't be a problem.


I count at lest 8, if not 15. Do prey tell what exactly what this "must-own" must be and then proceed to name one bad game you actually think is good and vice-versa. Case-in-point; please stop the bitching about "must owns" when you lack the qualifications to even to distinguish between "must own" and non-"must own".

[-Never4ever-]

dear Never4Ever,

while i dont question any of the games you listed, i direct you to the following games for the NES, you may want to check them out because (believe it or not) games can remain fun as time goes on ^^

1942
1943
dino riki
adventure island series (3 being the best, imo)
baloon fight
bards tale
baseball stars 2
batman (holy hell, this game rocks your face)
battleship
battletoads/double dragon
bee 52
bionic commando
blades of steel
bomberman 2
a boy and his blob
bubble bobble 1+2
bugs bunnys crazy castle
burger time
bump n jump
casino kid
castlevania 1-3
chip and dale 1+2
clash at demonhead
contra (force and super)
crystalis
deja vu
dig dug 1+2
donkey kong classics
double dragon 1-3
dr mario
dragon warrior 1-4
ducktales 1+2
elevator action
excitebike
final fantasy
flintstones 1+2
g.i. joe 1+2
galaga
gauntlet
ghosts n goblins
gradius 1+2
gunnac
gunsmoke
ice climber
ice hockey
ikari warriors 1-3
john elways quarterback
kid icarus
kung fu
the legend of zelda
legendary wings
lemmings
magic darts
maniac mansion
marble madness
mario bros
megaman 1-6 (mostly 1+2)
metroid
micro machines
punch out
millapede
monster in my pocket
ms pac man
ninja gaiden 1-3
paper boy
pinball
pirates
popeye
prince of persia
q-bert
qix
rc pro-am 1+2
rainbow islands
rampage
rescue embasy mission
river city ransom
rolling thunder
rush'n attack
shadowgate
shinobi
skate or die
startropics 1+2
strider
super dodgeball
super mario bros 1-3
super sprint
tmnt 2, fighters
tetris 1, 2, tengen
track and feild 2
uncharted waters
urban champion
volleyball
xevious
yoshi
zelda 2

you know? its a start ^^

With the lone exception of shadow gate & Magic darts I've played all of the above, beaten nearly all of them. Old games, especially from the NES era simply don't hold up anymore. Whether it be archaic mechanics, super short playthrough, repetition or just cheapness, all these games suffer from a variety of problems and don't hold up past the 30 minutes to an hour worth of fond memories. When I updated my PSP, I was pissed. Time went on and the more I thought about, the more I relised that the only game I truly missed was Tetris Attack for Gb, and I have ready Access to at less 10 games tha are better.

Open your eyes, play some PSP games without all the HaRDK0RE! gamer bullshit and you'll see there's a lot of fun beyound reliving found memories / posing as an old school gamer.

[Logain8955]

Personally, I wanted the PSP for the homebrew game creation stuff. I'm about to go into my bachelor's program in Digital Entertainment and Game Design, so having a current-gen console I can start programming for and coming up with crazy stuff on my offtime would have rocked hardcore. Not everyone wants a hacked firmware for emulators and zomg iso warez.

Course, this was before I found out that playing a PSP for more than 20 minutes would send horrible shooting pains through my arms. Damn sony for making the PSP for tiny tiny hands. Damn them to hell.

[GreenMonkey]

OMG this is a funny thread, made funnier by Quackzilla.

For every 3 suck ass or poorly aged NES game out there, there is 1 quality, repeat, QUALITY NES game. And even if some of them don't hold up, there is still a lot of fucking CLASSIC, AWESOME games there.

Apparently we've got some graphics whores or Sony fanboys in the house.

Games like Dragon Warrior IV, Super Mario Bros 3 (wtf with Quack and his SMB3 bashing), Zelda, Megaman 2, Yoshi, etc are classic, quality fucking games.

You've got what, Lumines? Wipeout Pure? Another Twisted Metal? That's pretty much it. I wouldn't be talkin' smack about NES games.

The NES library, is WAY better than the so-far weak PSP library. The PSP library is about as good as the PS2 launch library was. To say that the whole, what, 5-7 years of NES games are inferior to the couple dozen PSP games released is both silly and ridiculous.

[-Never4ever-]

The NES library, is WAY better than the so-far weak PSP library. The PSP library is about as good as the PS2 launch library was. To say that the whole, what, 5-7 years of NES games are inferior to the couple dozen PSP games released is both silly and ridiculous.

Oh okay they're inferior, WHY? Oh that's right you don't have a anything besides "they just are". For every fun NES games, there's an equal 50 that just don't cut it. SMB, SMB3, Zelda, all 6 Megamans, castlevania 1, 3 and Crystalis, these are the few games that could be considered fun, but they're all still outdated, they all still have archaic control schemes and basic gameplay design, and they still looose that something special after 30 minutes of play, which BTW, is the average playtime for each of those games. After 10 years of SMB3, I'm in need of something new, something that'll last me past one hour.

Take it from the old-school gamer: the PSP lineup is solid, play some of these games and give up on that dream that NES games will be forever awesome. I'm tired of people to busy reminicing to a simpler time, wne as a result, missing out on this generation.

Stop with the system bashing, the cold-hearted fanboy-isms, the clinging to an age gone by and just ENJOY the video games. Pick up a PSP game, play it and have fun with it, don't insult it from afar, never getting the chance to experiencing it for one reason or another.

[GreenMonkey]

haha

Fanboy-ism

Sure


I own:

Sega Dreamcast
Sega Saturn
Sega Genesis
Sega Gamegear (somewhere around here)

Nintendo NES
Nintendo SNES
Nintendo Gamecube
Nintendo GBA SP (technically the wife's)
Nintendo DS

Sony PS1
Sony PSone
Sony PS2

Microsoft Xbox



And I probably have more PS1 games than anything else, and more PS2 games than my Gamecube and Xbox library combined (thanks to large #s of quality RPGs).

And I'll add the PSP and the new-gen systems when they get some worthwhile games that I'm interested in. Not a big fan of racing and FPS (give me a PC for FPS any day), and I couldn't care less about sports. That's why the PSP is pointless to me, an overpriced gadget with only 1-2 worthwhile games. Maybe the sports gamers think the lineup rules, but damn, it's pretty sparse, on par with the PS2 launch library (which was also weak).

It's those that say old games suck that are fanboys. Fanboys of new technology and pretty graphics.


P.S. If you can beat Zelda. Megaman 2, or Castlevania in 30 minutes you are either a GOD gamer or one of those pro speedrun gamers. I played Castlevania for a few weeks (probably about 10 hours or so) before giving up, it's damn hard. Ninja Gaiden 1 was tough as hell too!

[CocheseUGA]

It's those that say old games suck that are fanboys. Fanboys of new technology and pretty graphics.



Simple minds...

Old games are fun, but not fun enough for me to want to give up on current and future games to play them portably. Even when I used Nester to play games on my DC, it still wasn't that fun.

[doodle777_98]

Just play what you like. I'll play what I like. Problem solve.

now back to play startropics on my psp.

[Gojtron]

All of you, STFU. All I wanted to see was if it worked, and I see pages of crap.

[punqsux]

Open your eyes, play some PSP games without all the HaRDK0RE! gamer bullshit and you'll see there's a lot of fun beyound reliving found memories / posing as an old school gamer.
when psp games get cheaper, ill own a ton of them for sure, but right now, they are way too pricey for me. im not bashing any psp games, because ive only played one (tm:ho) theres a good number of games i want, but nothing id spend more than $10 on

[opportunity777]

I play everything and I don't really prefer any generation over another. Actually, I find myself going less and less to older games these days, but it doesn't mean I don't find them fun and play them sometimes. Basically, just play what you like and go about your business. Some people hate old games. Some hate new games. Some people play porn games. Some people play kiddie games. Some hate games period. Who really cares ... alright I'm bored at work. I'm going to snag my friend's PSP from his desk drawer and play something :-)

[Pookymeister]

i just played through Castlevania 1 during my lunch hour on my psp =]

[-Never4ever-]

haha

Fanboy-ism

Sure


I own:

Sega Dreamcast
Sega Saturn
Sega Genesis
Sega Gamegear (somewhere around here)

Nintendo NES
Nintendo SNES
Nintendo Gamecube
Nintendo GBA SP (technically the wife's)
Nintendo DS

Sony PS1
Sony PSone
Sony PS2

Microsoft Xbox



And I probably have more PS1 games than anything else, and more PS2 games than my Gamecube and Xbox library combined (thanks to large #s of quality RPGs).

And I'll add the PSP and the new-gen systems when they get some worthwhile games that I'm interested in. Not a big fan of racing and FPS (give me a PC for FPS any day), and I couldn't care less about sports. That's why the PSP is pointless to me, an overpriced gadget with only 1-2 worthwhile games. Maybe the sports gamers think the lineup rules, but damn, it's pretty sparse, on par with the PS2 launch library (which was also weak).

It's those that say old games suck that are fanboys. Fanboys of new technology and pretty graphics.


P.S. If you can beat Zelda. Megaman 2, or Castlevania in 30 minutes you are either a GOD gamer or one of those pro speedrun gamers. I played Castlevania for a few weeks (probably about 10 hours or so) before giving up, it's damn hard. Ninja Gaiden 1 was tough as hell too!


You don't have to only own one system to be a fan-boy, case-in-point: I've have/had twice as many systems than what you've listed, beaten more games in a year than 98% of the gaming populance does their whole lifetime and have played more games than there are words in the english languauge AND I still prefer Sega and Nintendo games over all else -- somewhat solidifing me as a fanboy for both companies. Hell I have a natrual fanboyism to MOST "old school" developers.

It's just as I said, the NES lineup is old, archanic and just not that fun anymore. Now if we had a genny emu or an SNES emu that didn't suck, THEN I would be sad to see my 1.5 go, but seeing as it's more likely that they'll crack 2.0 and release a super hack that lets play any PSP game out wirelessly, without need of UMD nor mem stick, I'm not missing my NES emu what-so-ever. Take a gander at my collection, take a good look at everything, because I'm trying ever so hard to actually PLAY all those games (unlike most CAGers), and whenever I need a quick NES fix, I always have my GBA flashcart and asorted collections.

BTW if we want tro go by diffuculty and repeat plays as lasting appeal, then Ninja Gaiden for Xbox trumps all other games. Straight through, beginning to end, CV takes no more than 20 minutes for a speed runner, 30 for a decent gamer whio knows what they're doing, 40 if you don't and 90 if you absolutely suck at the game, but could somehow make your way through it.

[-Never4ever-]

when psp games get cheaper, ill own a ton of them for sure, but right now, they are way too pricey for me. im not bashing any psp games, because ive only played one (tm:ho) theres a good number of games i want, but nothing id spend more than $10 on


There we go, a legimate argument. And I'd agree with you, but with the exception of HSG:OT, I've gotten evry last PSP game I own under $25. Otherwise I wouldn't really bother :razz:

[-Never4ever-]

All of you, STFU. All I wanted to see was if it worked, and I see pages of crap.


To answer your concern: It was all a Hoax: this thread can be closed now.

[Weedy649]

BTW Giz, if you mind, could you copy my post into your OP and change this title? pspupates.com had an update, shows a video of downgrader in progress and has said it will work on 2.0 PSPs. I made another topic about it, since this thread got WAY off topic i thought it would be best to start over, could discuss the video and the firmware tricker.

Those 2 items alone would make all the arguements on the previous pages silly, since you can downgrade to use home brew, and you can use the firmware trick to play the new games. However, scorch feels its his job to run for help if something he thinks is a repost is made, so it was closed.

[Weedy649]

To answer your concern: It was all a Hoax: this thread can be closed now.

It wasnt a hoax, it just doesnt have a release date. They dont want to release something that can brick/break PSPs worldwide. They have commented on rumors and posted a video since, but like i said, somebody felt the need to close the topic so i guess people are still going to have to go through 4 pages of this outdated stuff to get the newer news.

[Pookymeister]

what is this firmware trick that you speak of,i havent played any games that require higher than 1.5 yet, but i imagine there will be ones.

[Weedy649]

what is this firmware trick that you speak of,i havent played any games that require higher than 1.5 yet, but i imagine there will be ones.

It makes the psp think that it has a different firmware, so if your playing a game that makes you have a higher version then you currently have, its possible to do so without upgrading. They also have a program you can run on your PSP that might get a few dead pixels to work. I myself havent done either of the above because i have no dead pixels, and im waiting for the downgrader to even need the firmware trick(even though i only own 2 psp games...but i really want to use my 1 gig stick :-()

[maccabee72]

It makes the psp think that it has a different firmware, so if your playing a game that makes you have a higher version then you currently have, its possible to do so without upgrading. They also have a program you can run on your PSP that might get a few dead pixels to work. I myself havent done either of the above because i have no dead pixels, and im waiting for the downgrader to even need the firmware trick(even though i only own 2 psp games...but i really want to use my 1 gig stick :-()

I tried the pixel fixing video tonight on my PSP. I let it run in a loop for about an hour and it didn't fix a single one of my twelve or so stuck/dead pixels (white dots on black background). I've read a few success stories online, but unfortunately it didn't work at all for me.

[Pookymeister]

I tried the pixel fixing video tonight on my PSP. I let it run in a loop for about an hour and it didn't fix a single one of my twelve or so stuck/dead pixels (white dots on black background). I've read a few success stories online, but unfortunately it didn't work at all for me.


Dead pixels are hardware issues as far as i know - dont see how software can fix that

[Weedy649]

Dead pixels are hardware issues as far as i know - dont see how software can fix that

if you read up on it, it says theres a chance it could fix a few. If you have dead pixels i think its really worth a shot even if it fixes one

[-Never4ever-]

It wasnt a hoax, it just doesnt have a release date. They dont want to release something that can brick/break PSPs worldwide. They have commented on rumors and posted a video since, but like i said, somebody felt the need to close the topic so i guess people are still going to have to go through 4 pages of this outdated stuff to get the newer news.


Did you watch the vid? Watch the vid, carefully.

BTW this shit gets released all the time, thinking of our safety, over their own fame? Fat chance, they more than likely had an idea or hunch and it just doesn't work. could be wrong, but I doubt it.

[CocheseUGA]

Got my PSP last night. Awesome!!!
1.5, so I of course upgraded to 2.0. It took a bit to type, but this comes to you via PSP browser. I could use a keyboard, though.

BTW, dead pixels are just stuck. The vid has worked. Fortunately I only have 4, only 1 in the middle.