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Photomotoz
09-08-2005, 12:06 AM
Is it just the collectiablity factor? Or is there more to it? As I see it its just the same game cheaper right?

DJSteel
09-08-2005, 11:32 AM
collectibility really...not much else...

Tromack
09-08-2005, 11:37 AM
Some people are very anal.

javeryh
09-08-2005, 11:46 AM
Some people are very anal.

True. Also, it appears to me that some people around here buy games to put them on a shelf and stare at. I think if you buy a game it should be to play the game so who gives a shit what the cover looks like as long as it works...

Acrylic
09-11-2005, 01:47 PM
I usually try to avoid the greatest hits games, because I don't like the red greatest hits label thing. It's pretty annoying. I mean, they should have just sticked with the green ones on playstation. Most of my PS1 games are GH, and that doesn't bother me.

PawnTakesKing
09-11-2005, 01:52 PM
Greatest Hits, Player's Choice, Platinum Hits...whatever...doesn't really make much of a difference to me.

argyle
09-11-2005, 01:54 PM
True. Also, it appears to me that some people around here buy games to put them on a shelf and stare at. I think if you buy a game it should be to play the game so who gives a shit what the cover looks like as long as it works...

You can't do both? Play the game AND have it look nice when it's on your shelf? What's wrong with wanting that, anyway?

Danro
09-11-2005, 01:56 PM
Easy, just buy one copy of each: one to play (GH) and one to collect (non).

howlinmad
09-11-2005, 02:08 PM
If I had the choice, sure, I'd get the non GH case. Then again, if it was a game that I was that worried about the cover, I'd get it before it hit GH. Otherwise, I have a life family, and a job, I don't have time to stare at my shelf.

PawnTakesKing
09-11-2005, 02:08 PM
Easy, just buy one copy of each: one to play (GH) and one to collect (non).

That totally defeats the purpose of calling this site Cheap Ass Gamer.

willardhaven
09-11-2005, 02:11 PM
Personally I avoid them when possible, but playing games comes first, so I will not hesitate to purchase one.

dcfox
09-11-2005, 02:13 PM
The red Greatest Hits label is garish and its understandable why people hate them. I mean, don't we expect a certain level of attractiveness in every other product we buy?

The VGM
09-11-2005, 02:45 PM
Why are you concerned that the people are concerned about Greatest Hits?

opportunity777
09-11-2005, 02:48 PM
I hate the red bar. I don't ever pay more than normal GH price for a non-GH though.

javeryh
09-11-2005, 11:32 PM
You can't do both? Play the game AND have it look nice when it's on your shelf? What's wrong with wanting that, anyway?

No, you can't. Most adults don't have their video game collections on display in their homes. No matter what you do, a shelf with CDs, DVDs and/or video games out for all to see looks unbelieveably bad. They should be kept in a drawer or in a cabinet. I cringe everytime someone posts OMG!!!1!!!111 CHECK OUT MY UBER RAD COLLECTION!!!111!!!!11 OMG!!!11!1!

gopro
09-12-2005, 02:27 AM
the gh is ugly. only platnium hits is nice. i would rather buy Platnium hit games. theyre so nice

WinnieThePujols
09-18-2005, 06:10 AM
No, you can't. Most adults don't have their video game collections on display in their homes. No matter what you do, a shelf with CDs, DVDs and/or video games out for all to see looks unbelieveably bad. They should be kept in a drawer or in a cabinet. I cringe everytime someone posts OMG!!!1!!!111 CHECK OUT MY UBER RAD COLLECTION!!!111!!!!11 OMG!!!11!1!

I thought that when I'm able to grow up I'd have the opportunity to have a more mature, intelligent group of peers to get along with. As you get older, you get more tolerant to the stuff people are interested in, and realize that all that matters it who the person is. I really don't care if I go to someone's house and they have 6,000 games on display. Really -- I don't.

I think your statement is pathetic. You're how old and still that superficial? Go ahead and stereotype the people who put their collections (and hobbies) out on display... at least they're not taking the middle schooler approach of, "oh my god, what if someone else thinks this is lame?!"

WinnieThePujols
09-18-2005, 06:13 AM
Is it just the collectiablity factor? Or is there more to it? As I see it its just the same game cheaper right?

Some people will say that people who buy Greatest Hits games just rode the bandwagon and bought it after it was popular. I don't agree.

I do prefer "original" games over the Greatest Hits ones. I think that my DVD rack looks awesome when all of the colors match. There's a pattern formed by the (upper) black trim part on the sides of cases that looks pretty neat. For a few games I did spend $2 or so buying the non-GH inserts over a site I knew of, but that's back when I had a steady income and pretty much no financial obligations. Then again, that was also back when I bought a game just 'cause it was cheap. I've certainly swayed away from that path, now.

DT778
09-18-2005, 06:22 AM
I blame these guys
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/15/collins/vert.queer.eye.jpg

vietgurl
09-18-2005, 06:32 AM
i figured that since i keep buying games with my college loans, i might as well have them look nice, hehe. besides, when i'm pulling all-nighters to study, looking over at my beautiful shelves of games motivates me.

sisco1986
09-18-2005, 06:35 AM
I don't understand how it can be a collection thing, considering if it's a greatest hits it sold a ass-load of units, so it's worth squat. Some people are just that anal (or stupid) I guess.

electrictroy
09-18-2005, 10:09 AM
Is it just the collectiablity factor? Or is there more to it? As I see it its just the same game cheaper right?


I buy Greatest Hits, because I figure any game that sold 500,000 copies must be darn good to attract that many fans.

troy

javeryh
09-18-2005, 10:18 AM
I thought that when I'm able to grow up I'd have the opportunity to have a more mature, intelligent group of peers to get along with. As you get older, you get more tolerant to the stuff people are interested in, and realize that all that matters it who the person is. I really don't care if I go to someone's house and they have 6,000 games on display. Really -- I don't.

I think your statement is pathetic. You're how old and still that superficial? Go ahead and stereotype the people who put their collections (and hobbies) out on display... at least they're not taking the middle schooler approach of, "oh my god, what if someone else thinks this is lame?!"

Who says I give a crap about what people are interested in? I'm proud of the fact that I play video games and I don't try to hide it from anyone. Also, I don't care what a person likes to do for fun in their spare time - to each his own. With all of the dorky stuff I like to do in my free time I'm certainly in no position to make fun of anyone for whatever hobbies they might have.

That said, I just think that in an adult owned home (not some teenager's room) having a display rack filled with video games, DVDs, CDs, etc. looks amazingly bad from an interior design point of view and it makes me cringe. It's the same reaction I would have upon seeing a pack of ceramic tigers on the coffee table or stuffed animals all over the place. Yeah, it's personal taste but so what? I'm quite sure at some point in your life you've had an opinion about the way something looks. I never said (or even alluded to) that having a video game collection on display somehow makes you "not cool" or whatever label YOU want to put on it. I thought that when grew up I'd have the opportunity to talk to other adults who wouldn't jump to conclusions about something just because they have a god-awful looking display rack in their living room - oh well.

kill3r7
09-18-2005, 10:20 AM
It's all the same people...chill out.

electrictroy
09-18-2005, 10:54 AM
That said, I just think that in an adult owned home (not some teenager's room) having a display rack filled with video games, DVDs, CDs, etc. looks amazingly bad from an interior design point of view and it makes me cringe.


What do you think of a room with a bookshelf filled with books?

And just curious, where do you store your stuff? I store my CD/DVDs in notebooks. It does look a lot better (and more compact) imho.

troy

javeryh
09-18-2005, 11:04 AM
What do you think of a room with a bookshelf filled with books?

And just curious, where do you store your stuff? I store my CD/DVDs in notebooks. It does look a lot better (and more compact) imho.

troy

Good point. Books aren't that bad, IMO but I think there would have to be a ceratin way to display them - a wall of books sucks just as bad as a wall of video games but I have seen nice "libraries" in certain homes that pull it off quite well. Probably because they aren't made of plastic because plastic is very cheap looking.

I store all my games in two large drawers of my entertainment center below the TV. It was custom made for this purpose and holds probably 500 DVD cases if it was filled to capacity. The piece is solid white with only one smoked glass door in the middle so I can still use the remote on my AV equipment. It hides everything.

ironmouse
09-18-2005, 11:14 AM
screw all you anal fucktards, the red bar won't kill you

argyle
09-18-2005, 11:22 AM
That said, I just think that in an adult owned home (not some teenager's room) having a display rack filled with video games, DVDs, CDs, etc. looks amazingly bad from an interior design point of view and it makes me cringe. It's the same reaction I would have upon seeing a pack of ceramic tigers on the coffee table or stuffed animals all over the place. Yeah, it's personal taste but so what? I'm quite sure at some point in your life you've had an opinion about the way something looks. I never said (or even alluded to) that having a video game collection on display somehow makes you "not cool" or whatever label YOU want to put on it. I thought that when grew up I'd have the opportunity to talk to other adults who wouldn't jump to conclusions about something just because they have a god-awful looking display rack in their living room - oh well.

Well I'm 30, own my home and in that home I have a pc/game room. In that room I have all my games on display, along with tons of gaming posters, standees, etc.

Until you start making my mortgage payment, I don't give a fuck what you think about it, either.

javeryh
09-18-2005, 11:41 AM
Well I'm 30, own my home and in that home I have a pc/game room. In that room I have all my games on display, along with tons of gaming posters, standees, etc.

Until you start making my mortgage payment, I don't give a fuck what you think about it, either.

Um, why should you, exactly? I certainly don't give a shit if you think I could have gone with a lighter shade of green when I painted the spare bedroom in my house. It's just my opinion about how something looks. I'd cringe if I was to ever see your pc/game room because I think those types of things look horrible just like you might cringe upon seeing the furniture I picked out for my house. I really don't see the problem here.

electrictroy
09-18-2005, 11:44 AM
screw all you anal fucktards, the red bar won't kill you


Yeah it does seem a little strange some people will pay twice as much money, just to get a non-GH title without the green or red bar. Seems like a gigantic waste of money (and more time wasted at work).

troy

bostonfrontier
09-18-2005, 11:45 AM
Is it just the collectiablity factor? Or is there more to it? As I see it its just the same game cheaper right?

cause people are stupid

Jedi1979
09-18-2005, 11:56 AM
[QUOTE=javeryh], to each his own. QUOTE]


exactly, however people forget that when they are posting on boards and say things that dont really need to be said, its ok we all do it;)

argyle
09-18-2005, 12:02 PM
Um, why should you, exactly? I certainly don't give a shit if you think I could have gone with a lighter shade of green when I painted the spare bedroom in my house. It's just my opinion about how something looks. I'd cringe if I was to ever see your pc/game room because I think those types of things look horrible just like you might cringe upon seeing the furniture I picked out for my house. I really don't see the problem here.

Well, I didn't post a dumbass statement saying you couldn't have a dark green room, and that all rooms should be light green, now did I?

Purkeynator
09-18-2005, 12:12 PM
I like having the original release packaging. But I am a cheap ass gamer too. So for me it is kind of the thrill of the hunt to find the non GH packaging for cheaper than $20 after it has gone GH. It can be tough to find these games <$20.

Jedi1979
09-18-2005, 12:19 PM
I like having the original release packaging. But I am a cheap ass gamer too. So for me it is kind of the thrill of the hunt to find the non GH packaging for cheaper than $20 after it has gone GH. It can be tough to find these games <$20.

what he said:D for example at target yesterday they had 5 007 Everything or nothing and 3 were players choice and 2 werent, of course i natuarlly took the no players choice ( i personally dont appreciate the yellow) but i if i have no choice i wouldnt have hesitated to grab the players choice

javeryh
09-18-2005, 12:21 PM
Well, I didn't post a dumbass statement saying you couldn't have a dark green room, and that all rooms should be light green, now did I?

I totally forgot for a second that no one is allowed an opinion on an anonymous internet messageboard. Thanks for reminding me.

dtcarson
09-18-2005, 01:17 PM
Even if your games are 'on display', how much room do they take up? I'll admit, I'm not one of the 'collectors' with 5,000 games [seems like overkill to me, the point, in my mind, is to play games and have fun--there's no way I'll ever play that many games, at least to make it worthwhile to keep them.]
Mine are stored vertically spineout on a dvd case next to the tv, along with many dvd's. If I'm looking for a game to play, all I want is the title readable. If I'm playing a game, I'm watching the tv. If I'm looking at other 'stuff', it's the decorations, or paintings, or knickknacks, or pictures of my family around the house.
I'm not anti or pro GH, except that a GH usually means a successful title and a permanently lowered price point.. I am pro-getting a game for the cheapest possible price, when balancing my urgency in having it.

Sleepkyng
09-18-2005, 01:50 PM
hmm, i dunno, i don't really give a shit, but for some reason i take non-gh over gh.

call me a sucker... please.

opportunity777
09-18-2005, 02:17 PM
I use my office as my game room, there are no games in my living room area at all. If I had more space I would have a game room, my office, and a living room, but this is what I got for right now.

Morpheus
09-18-2005, 11:45 PM
It's all the same people...chill out.

Not picking on you, but your post fits something else I want to explain. I don't know if you are talking about GH and Non-GH being the same, but sometimes its not just the cover that is different.

There are GH titles out there that offer extra/new gaming content for the games that the regular versions didn't have. Examples: Tenchu GH has the Japanese movie intro added to it, Silent Hill 2 GH has that extra gaming segment with Maria (not sure if that was her name), VF4: Evo is only in GH, Fable: The Lost Chapters offers new sections etc. But that also could be said about the special edition versions of games. Some offer gaming content not available to the regular versions.

In reality if you were a true collector you would at least have the GH versions with the extra content along side the regulars, but I'm guessing most collectors are superficial and fail to realize this. :D

xzafixz
09-18-2005, 11:49 PM
I've personally met people that will scour the earth to find non GH games just so that people think that they've had the game forever, and they think they are so cool because if it... its kind of silly. I just want to play games, but if there are no bonuses, and I don't have to scour the stores I'll take a non-GH over GH because the packaging looks nicer.

Morpheus
09-18-2005, 11:57 PM
I've personally met people that will scour the earth to find non GH games just so that people think that they've had the game forever, and they think they are so cool because if it... its kind of silly. I just want to play games, but if there are no bonuses, and I don't have to scour the stores I'll take a non-GH over GH because the packaging looks nicer.

Funny you mention that. I have two friends who are like that. They like to own non-GH because they want to say they played the game when it first came out and not look like a poser. Kind of ridiculous.

WinnieThePujols
09-19-2005, 05:31 AM
I totally forgot for a second that no one is allowed an opinion on an anonymous internet messageboard. Thanks for reminding me.

Well, that's true. But you could say it in a more polite manner. Instead of insulting people who have their stuff on display (as you clearly did, by saying crap like "I cringe everytime someone posts OMG!!!1!!!111 CHECK OUT MY UBER RAD COLLECTION!!!111!!!!11 OMG!!!11!1!"), how about you just say that it's not your thing? While you may have done that early on, you clearly took a pretty overkill approach to begin with.

I still don't see what's wrong with having games out on display. I have a DVD tower that's complete full of PSOne and PS2/XBox/GameCube games. Probably around a hundred games total on there... Now, granted, I am a teenager (19) and do live at home...but, from my personal experience, I'd venture to say that most households I go to (even those belonging to 30-40 year-old adults) have some form of media collectively held together on some sort of media shelving -- be it video games, DVDs, CDs...whatever. I don't understand why you so strongly oppose it? Walk into any store that sells any type of media, and you're I can almost guarantee they'll have some sort of display racks aviaible to hold your library of media on...

You call it a personal preference, but I can't help but think this is anything other than complete and utter superficiality.

opportunity777
09-19-2005, 05:36 AM
Why are people arguing over this? Who cares ... I mean seriously it's like arguing with someone about how you arrange your dining room and start throwing good China at each other. It's so late I feel obligated to masturbate, but I already emptied the tank enough times today at the gf's house :-P

Maybe I should go relieve myself and use the GH red label cover as a clean up rag ... anyways I'm out, I got work in the morning :-)

PenguinMaster
09-19-2005, 06:07 AM
There are GH titles out there that offer extra/new gaming content for the games that the regular versions didn't have. Examples: Tenchu GH has the Japanese movie intro added to it, Silent Hill 2 GH has that extra gaming segment with Maria (not sure if that was her name), VF4: Evo is only in GH, Fable: The Lost Chapters offers new sections etc. But that also could be said about the special edition versions of games. Some offer gaming content not available to the regular versions.


Are there any more of these? Is there a list somewhere that details these? I prefer to pick up non-gh editions (if they are the same price) and I wouldn't want to miss out on these extras.

chickenhawk
09-19-2005, 02:55 PM
Overall, I personally don't think displaying games and DVDs looks particularly good, but I think custom shelving for displaying CDs looks very slick if done right. So I guess in that regard I agree to an extent with javeryh. I probably don't feel as strongly as he does though. ;) All my shit is in my now unfinished basement. I wouldn't display anything media related in common areas of the house, but if you have a game room or something like that I see nothing wrong with it and think it can even look very cool. From what I have heard ot javeryh's media storage unit, it sounds pretty cool and I am thinking about getting something similar done when I finish my basement.

shipwreck
09-19-2005, 03:14 PM
I just prefer all of my games to look the same when the are sitting on the shelf, so I don't like the GH, PH, PC labels. And I could care less if people don't like the looks of media being out in the open on a shelf. I'm not big into interior design and I much prefer a house that feels comfortable and lived in to one that is sterile or full of stuff that just looks nice and serves no purpose.

Morpheus
09-19-2005, 04:40 PM
Are there any more of these? Is there a list somewhere that details these? I prefer to pick up non-gh editions (if they are the same price) and I wouldn't want to miss out on these extras.

There are more, but I don't know where you can find a detailed list. If anyone can help find a detailed list of GH/PH/PC/Special Edition titles that have extra content over the originals it would be greatly appreciated. ;)

Purkeynator
09-19-2005, 07:15 PM
Some may have different artwork also from the originals. Like Sly Cooper 2 GH has a different cover picture than the original.

rywateska
09-19-2005, 07:40 PM
It really bugs me whenever the color dosen't match. If the game is cheap enough though, I'll still buy.

electrictroy
09-20-2005, 07:51 AM
I just prefer all of my games to look the same when the are sitting on the shelf, so I don't like the GH, PH, PC labels. And I could care less if people don't like the looks of media being out in the open...

The only thing I care about is the *program* so I can play the game & have fun. I don't care about the packaging..... which I usually just throw in the trash anyway..... and store the discs inside a caselogic notebook.

troy

jshendel
09-20-2005, 10:37 AM
I used to be extremely anal about having that little green stripe on my PS1 games. Now that I've become a cheap ass, I've let it slide a bit. I'll take a greatest hit game for 10 bucks over a 30 non-GH any day.

shipwreck
09-20-2005, 10:46 AM
The only thing I care about is the *program* so I can play the game & have fun. I don't care about the packaging..... which I usually just throw in the trash anyway..... and store the discs inside a caselogic notebook.

troy

You throw the packaging and artwork away? Wow.

Zing
09-20-2005, 09:48 PM
The only other gaming messageboard I frequent is DigitalPress and holy crap is the response to this topic like night and day. It really brings out the difference in the demographic.

I don't care about the packaging..... which I usually just throw in the trash anyway.....

This makes me nauseous.

CaoPi
09-20-2005, 10:01 PM
I'm a video game collector myself but I don't mind the greatist labels especially if they're already released GHs games or include extras like VF EVOlution or Silent Hill 2 for PS2! ;)

FriskyTanuki
09-20-2005, 11:30 PM
I could care less about the GH label, it just gaurantees that I'm getting that game for $20 or less.

Pancake Rabbit
09-20-2005, 11:40 PM
That said, I just think that in an adult owned home (not some teenager's room) having a display rack filled with video games, DVDs, CDs, etc. looks amazingly bad from an interior design point of view and it makes me cringe. It's the same reaction I would have upon seeing a pack of ceramic tigers on the coffee table or stuffed animals all over the place. Yeah, it's personal taste but so what?


We have a genius on our hands folks. This guy's words of wisdom will single handedly put an end to all sales of dvd racks and shelving as a whole. I mean whats the point of a shelf they're so stupid and pointless. Leave it to someone as smart as "javeryh" to make millions of people with shelves in their homes look like complete jackasses. thank you sir.

On a serious note to you javeryh, most guys don't give two squirts of piss about "interior design" you need to quit watching queer eye.

Sleepkyng
09-21-2005, 12:16 AM
On a serious note to you javeryh, most guys don't give two squirts of piss about "interior design" you need to quit watching queer eye.

what the hell are you talking about? Every guy has serious beliefs about interior design, it doesnt have to be fruity and artsy, most guys adopt a utilitarian sense when it comes to their "pads" and have things setup so that it looks comfortable and catering.

and what does queer eye have to do with that? So just because I don't want my house to look like a shit hole means I'm gay?

I had forgotten how gender played a serious role in wether I give a shit about how my place looks or not.

javeryh
09-21-2005, 01:01 AM
We have a genius on our hands folks. This guy's words of wisdom will single handedly put an end to all sales of dvd racks and shelving as a whole. I mean whats the point of a shelf they're so stupid and pointless. Leave it to someone as smart as "javeryh" to make millions of people with shelves in their homes look like complete jackasses. thank you sir.

On a serious note to you javeryh, most guys don't give two squirts of piss about "interior design" you need to quit watching queer eye.

Hmmm... I'm willing to bet you've got a room somewhere full of DVDs and video games and other tacky shit laying around. Sleepykyng summed it up pretty nicely but I'll add this... if you ever - and I mean ever - plan on getting laid at some point in your life after owning your own place, here's a tip: the video game collection on display in your bedroom can only hurt your chances.

Trakan
09-21-2005, 01:06 AM
If I have the choice, I'll get the non-GH copy. I don't really like the GH color, but I've learned to live with it.

Zing
09-21-2005, 03:42 PM
Wow, people sure are evangelical about this topic. I don't think I have ever seen such hostile and immature remarks on these forums, but I have been away for a few months so maybe this is just how it is now? :|

I don't own any Greatest Hits games and never will. I feel that I have spent some of my short time on this earth earning the money, so I want the best. Except for the rare or long out of print games, GH versions don't seem to be significantly cheaper and the price difference is not worth giving up the little niceties like color labels on the discs and cases that aren't fugly.

Another reason I prefer non-GH is I enjoy knowing that I have the original releases. I missed out on quite a few of the PS1 greats since I sold my PS1 and games in 1996 when I was young and too busy getting drunk to play anything than the occasional Tekken 2. So over the past year, I have acquired almost every game I would ever want to play for the PS1 and PS2. Having the original releases helps bring a little bit of the original magic that I missed out on.

One more reason why I prefer non-GH is simply that they are worth more if I ever decide to sell out. This is an odd phenomenon since the games are probably only worth more because people feel they should be worth more due to being "original". I believe GH reprints give the impression that they (the reprints) are ultra-common and the mere existance of a GH version implies that the original is more rare. I would venture that even if a GH version is more rare than the original print, people will still assume that the GH version is more common.

I keep all my audio CDs and DVDs out on display simply because it is the most convenient. I guess there are people that keep their audio/video media behind closed cabinets or drawers, but having them out in the open and within arms reach of the audio system is more important than impressing the cast of Trading Spaces. However, my games are in a cabinet (still within arms reach) because I place more value on them and prefer to keep them out of constant sunlight and people's greasy fingers. :)

Jedi1979
09-21-2005, 05:56 PM
Hmmm... I'm willing to bet you've got a room somewhere full of DVDs and video games and other tacky shit laying around. Sleepykyng summed it up pretty nicely but I'll add this... if you ever - and I mean ever - plan on getting laid at some point in your life after owning your own place, here's a tip: the video game collection on display in your bedroom can only hurt your chances.



i absolutely disagree with that last sentence

TimPV3
09-21-2005, 05:59 PM
I hate the red bar. I don't ever pay more than normal GH price for a non-GH though.
I hate the yellow Player's Choice bar more I must say, but not by much. The Xbox Platinum Hits looks alright, the cases are changed too much though.

vietgurl
09-21-2005, 10:39 PM
Hmmm... I'm willing to bet you've got a room somewhere full of DVDs and video games and other tacky shit laying around. Sleepykyng summed it up pretty nicely but I'll add this... if you ever - and I mean ever - plan on getting laid at some point in your life after owning your own place, here's a tip: the video game collection on display in your bedroom can only hurt your chances.

I guess that doesn't apply to girls. The more games I display, the more guys I seem to attract...

electrictroy
09-22-2005, 02:11 PM
Originally Posted by electrictroy
The only thing I care about is the *program* so I can play the game & have fun. I don't care about the packaging..... which I usually just throw in the trash anyway..... and store the discs inside a caselogic notebook.

troyYou throw the packaging and artwork away? Wow.


Sure. What do I want that crap for? There are only two times I keep the original packaging (a) the game is dumb & I want my money back or (b) it's a rare item that someone on Ebay would buy (like the Arc the Lad Collection...kept the games-sold the box).

troy